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  • 'NYT' announces Rudoren's return to NY
  • 'Foreign Policy' says 'Israel lobby' donors are making 'pro-Israel the new circumcision'
    • Indeed, Krauss. It's difficult to think of the lobby as 'pro-Israel' while it seems intent on digging the grave deeper.

  • Prominent Israeli settler runs over 16-year-old girl, then shoots her dead
    • The seemingly major IMEMC story on Fadi Hoosh hasn't been picked up by any major western news outlets--it's at least 36 hours old. I don't think Ma'an has covered it either. I'm beginning to wonder about its credibility.

  • 'NYT' only counts Jews when it pronounces Thursday 'deadliest day of violence'
    • Slightly off topic. It's surprising how many news outlets (e.g. CNN, UPI, CBS News, Boston Globe, etc.) have headlines saying an American [Ezra Schwartz] was killed in Israel. Don't these folks have maps? Or does the green line exist only when it is convenient for it to exist?

    • Excellent, Phil, especially the Huck Finn quote. Please share with @sulliview.

  • No justice for Tariq Abu Khdeir -- even US State Dep't faults Israeli 'accountability'
    • NYT: If Mr. Pollard were allowed to go to Israel, where his case has been a cause célèbre for years, Mr. diGenova said there would be a “parade” and “events just rubbing it in the United States’ face.”

      He'll get his parades here.

    • Off topic. AP: Israel reports Pollard has been freed.

    • From this afternoon's State briefing:

      QUESTION: And then a sentence was delivered for an Israeli policeman, who a year ago was seen on video beating an American citizen, American dual-national.

      MR KIRBY: Right.

      QUESTION: I think he got six weeks of community service. Do you feel this is adequate accountability?

      MR KIRBY: We were disappointed to learn that the Israeli police officer who severely beat American teenager Tariq Abu Khdeir in July of 2014 was spared prison time by an Israeli court yesterday. Given the clear evidence captured on videotape of the excessive use of force, it is difficult to see how this sentence would promote full accountability for the actions of the police officer in this case. We understand there is a possibility for the Israeli state prosecutor to appeal the decision, and we’re going to continue to follow that closely, as you might expect.

      I’ll just state again, the safety, security, and protection of American citizens overseas is of paramount importance for this Administration, and we have demonstrated repeatedly – we’ve demonstrated that repeatedly in cases all over the globe.

      QUESTION: Do you feel --

      QUESTION: John, do you have --

      QUESTION: Just one more on this. Do you feel that this somehow indicative, this sentence, or calls into question Israel’s overall commitment to holding accountable its government or military personnel who commit abuses?

      MR KIRBY: I don’t think we’re at a stage now to make a leap here in terms of trend analysis for this. We treat each of these incidents separately and uniquely, and I’ll let my comments stand.

    • Annie, Since the twitter photo should be public domain, I think the NYT should have used it instead of the week-later one that made the injuries look minor.

      In the comment section of your embedded 2014 post, Tariq's cousin Fatina confirmed his U.S. citizenship. Via twitter Matt Lee was notified and he raised it at the next State Dept daily briefing.

    • Thanks Annie.

      Most of the news articles today about this today, including the NYT, use photos of Tariq that were taken over a week after the brutal beating, when the physical damage to Tariq's face was mostly healed.

  • Posters linking Muslim students and BDS activists to terrorism appear on college campuses in California and Washington, DC
  • To the next 'NYT' Jerusalem chief -- Here is your job description
    • Accompanying Isabel Kershner's NYT article today, a photo of Tariq appears which was taken July 11, 2014, which is over a week after the beating and after most of the visible damage from the beating had healed. Little in the photo, except two black eyes, suggests the severe brutality of the beating.

    • It will be interesting to see how Rudoren covers the sentencing today of the cop who beat 15-year-old U.S. citizen Tariq Abu Khdeir to 6 weeks community service.

  • Israeli troops detain and interrogate 6-year-old Palestinian boy in Bethlehem
    • Behind a Haaretz paywall, but here is not really unexpected news:

      Cop Who Beat Up Palestinian Teen Gets Six Weeks Community Service
      Days after the murder of the teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir, policemen were filmed beating his 15-year-old cousin Tariq, a U.S. citizen.
      A Jerusalem court sentenced Tuesday a border policeman who was filmed severely beating an American-Palestinian teen to six weeks of community service.
      In July 2014, two days after the murder of the teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir, three policemen were filmed beating and kicking 15-year-old Tariq Abu Khdeir, a relative of Mohammed and a U.S. citizen. The event took place during violent demonstrations in East Jerusalem neighborhood Shoafat.
      According to the police, Tariq Abu Khdeir had been caught wearing a mask and holding a slingshot. But after he was handcuffed he was beaten badly.
      “In these circumstances there was no need and no justification to exert further force against the complainant,” Magistrate’s Court Judge Dana Cohen-Lekach ruled. Despite this, the defendant beat the complainant with his fists and kicked him in the head, face, shoulders and upper body until the latter’s senses became blurred.”
      Afterward, while the boy’s hands were bound, the policeman “dragged him on the floor with his head hanging and kicked him in the stomach,” she wrote.
      Later, two policemen joined the defendant to help him lead the boy and “the defendant again kicked the boy in the face,” the verdict says.
      Abu Khdeir required medical treatment. The policeman, whose name was not released, signed a plea bargain in which he admitted the charges against him.
      The prosecution asked the court to sentence the policeman to seven months in prison.
      The judge took into consideration mitigating circumstances such as the policeman’s lack of a criminal record, positive character references and the fact that the policeman lost his job after the incident.

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  • The way for Americans to take on the Islamic state is to end support for Jewish nationalism
    • gamal: Did you know Justin Beiber is an Arab, and very devout.

      Hmmm..Here is some information about Bieber's ethnicity.

      Birth Name: Justin Drew Bieber

      Place of Birth: London, Ontario, Canada

      Date of Birth: March 1, 1994

      *German, Irish, English, Scottish (father)
      *French-Canadian, with remote English, Swiss-French, and Scottish (mother)

      Justin Bieber is a Canadian singer, songwriter, and actor. He is the son of Jeremy Bieber and Pattie Mallette.

      On his father’s side, Justin has German, Irish, English, and Scottish ancestry. Justin’s mother’s family is French-Canadian; his mother also has remote English, Swiss-French, and Scottish ancestry.

      source: link to

  • Today's a day to grieve for Paris, not score political points
    • Crows are better at squawking than reading.

    • The mother was in Beirut in an attempt to bring her family to safety to the U.S. It's people like her whom many politicians would keep away--the statue of liberty be damned.

    • Friday's Paris attacks came a day after ISIS twin suicide bombings killed at least 43 people in a suburb of Beirut. More than 180 others were hurt and among the dead, two people from Dearborn, Michigan.

      The Shia couple's three-year-old son was in the car with them during the explosion, and the mother shielded her son when it happened. "He knows it was a bomb," her nephew said. "We asked him where were his parents, he said in the car. He said there was a bombing and that he saw his mom burn to death and I saw my dad bleed to death."

      But chances are you won't hear of this Dearborn couple in the news.

  • Video: Undercover Israeli soldiers kill one, arrest one inside Hebron hospital
    • 'We're bigger than US Steel' is an actual Lansky quote.

    • In early October U.S. forces struck a M​​édecins Sans Fronti​​ères​ (MSF) hospital in Kunduz Afghanistan killing at least 30. Three weeks later U.S.-backed coalition airstrikes destroyed a MSF hospital in Yemen. It didn't take long for blame-the-victim Dershowitz to say that 'Doctors Without Borders is really Doctors without Morals'

    • I am not sure the average viewer will see it for what it is and not as another Entebbe type heroic op by those brave and daring Jews.

      amigo, CBN has both average viewers and below-average viewers, but here goes:

      Christian Broadcasting Network. JERUSALEM, Israel -- Israel's crackdown on Palestinian terrorists continued this week, with the dramatic overnight arrest of a suspected terrorist Thursday in his hospital room in Hebron.

      The undercover unit, made up of IDF, Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) and Border Police officers, gained access to Azzam Shadallah's room disguised as an Arab family bringing a pregnant woman feigning labor.

      The soldiers entered the room, arresting the suspect and shooting and killing his cousin, Abdallah Azzam Shaldallah, 28, when he attacked them, the Shin Bet later said.

    • Amnesty International:

      The killing of a 28-year-old Palestinian man by Israeli forces during a raid on al-Ahli hospital in Hebron in the early hours of Thursday morning may amount to an extrajudicial execution, Amnesty International said today.
      “The fact that Abdullah Shalaldah was shot in the head and upper body suggests this was an extrajudicial execution, adding to a disturbing pattern of similar recent incidents by Israeli forces in the West Bank which warrant urgent investigation,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

      “Israeli forces must immediately cease their use of intentional lethal force against people who are not posing an imminent threat to life.”

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  • 'What I know is that I can't take it anymore': Palestinian woman killed by Israeli troops explains decision to carry knife to checkpoint in suicide note
  • Some CAP employees call out Netanyahu's 'crimes,' including slaughter of Gaza children
    • Oh well. There is always the U.S. Green Party, which today issued a press release expressing support for the proposed resolution of the American Anthropological Association for Israel boycott.

  • Call from Gaza-Based Palestinian Student Blocs: Intensify BDS campaigns against apartheid Israel
    • From the JPost today:

      Bill to keep boycotters out of Israel clears hurdle

      The Knesset approved in a preliminary vote on Wednesday legislation that would bar anyone who publicly calls to boycott Israel or part of Israel from entering the country.

      The bill by MK Yinon Magal (Bayit Yehudi), which passed with 55 in favor and 31 unopposed, prohibits giving a visa or residency status to anyone who calls for such a boycott, though the interior minister has the authority to overrule the ban in special cases.

  • Jewish American activists unfurl banner in support of BDS at the Western Wall
    • Ben Norton has written about this protest at Salon: link to

    • Hophmi : ... can I walk into a mosque immodestly dressed and unfurl a banner that I’m praying for an end to suicide bombings, stabbings, ISIS, and discrimination against women in Muslim countries?

      You should ask permission of the owners of the private property instead of trespassing.

  • Obama friends Netanyahu with one-sided statement
    • The State Department deputy spokesperson cannot bring him himself to say that Palestinians under occupation have the right to defend themselves:

      QUESTION: I have more questions on the issue. Now, the President and every president and every American official keeps saying that Israel has the right to defend itself and so on.

      MR TONER: Yes.

      QUESTION: As I checked last, who is threatening Israel’s security presently? I mean, the last I looked, it had relations with Egypt, with Jordan; Syria is engulfed in a war, an internecine war; and the Palestinians are under occupation. Who really threatens Israel?

      MR TONER: Well, again --

      QUESTION: That it requires --

      MR TONER: -- I mean, we’re seeing attacks by Hamas rockets.

      QUESTION: Okay.

      MR TONER: We’ve seen violence perpetrated against Israeli citizens by attackers, knife-wielding attackers. I think that’s largely the context that we’re talking about recently, although obviously the state of Israel has faced threats from a variety of different sources over its history.

      QUESTION: Okay. Now, do you believe that the Palestinians under occupation have a right to defend themselves?

      MR TONER: Do I believe that --

      QUESTION: Do you believe that the Palestinians under occupation, that we see every day footage of young children being hauled to prison, killed, and so on – do they have a right to defend themselves against a military occupation?

      MR TONER: Said, I think, looking at the situation – and I know what you’re getting at.

      QUESTION: Right.

      MR TONER: The other thing that – I know we go to that line, saying we believe in Israel’s right to defend itself.

      QUESTION: Right.

      MR TONER: And that certainly is a core tenet of our beliefs about our relationship with Israel. But speaking more globally, I guess, about the situation there, what we also are very clear about is that both sides need to take the steps necessary to reduce tensions, take affirmative actions.

      QUESTION: Right.

      MR TONER: And so I would say this similarly for the Palestinians carrying out violent attacks but also the Palestinians who feel under threat from Israeli security forces. The whole --

      QUESTION: Dynamic.

      MR TONER: The whole situation needs to be de-escalated.

      QUESTION: I understand this in areas under the control of the authority of the Palestinian authorities, but in areas like Jerusalem, where these people are actually Israeli subjects, how do you figure that out? I mean, how do you determine who is who and who needs to be protected in this case?

      MR TONER: Well, again, it speaks to – sorry. It speaks to some of the tensions that we see on display every day and the need to de-escalate the situation. And certainly in the same breath that we say that we defend Israel’s right to defend itself, we also call for restraint in its actions against Palestinians or whoever. So I think it’s important just that there’s balance here and that there’s an effort on both sides to de-escalate the current tensions.

  • Netanyahu flips the bird to Obama -- 2200 more settlement units!
    • Sept 1 State Department Briefing:

      QUESTION: The – and the flip side of that, it’s been 31 days since Israeli terrorist settlers attacked the village of Duma, killing a Palestinian baby and his father and mother and so on.

      MR TONER: Yes, and his father, yeah. Mother, yeah.

      QUESTION: And at the time, you expressed confidence that Israel has the wherewithal to pursue the terrorist perpetrators and bring them to justice, yet we don’t see this kind of raiding of the settlement to bring the perpetrators to justice. Are you still satisfied that Israel is doing all it can to apprehend the terrorist suspects in the settlement?

      MR TONER: Well, again, we – and we spoke very clearly at the time and continue to condemn that kind of violence, that kind of activity, and call on for a full investigation and to bring the perpetrators to justice. Now, we know and we speak to this often that a full investigation takes time. The prime minister, the government was very clear in expressing their outrage about this violence and the need to address it, so let’s wait and let this process play out.

      QUESTION: The point being that when the Israelis express their outrage going into Jenin to apprehend someone, but we have not seen anything similar to that in the settlement where the settlers have suspected – are suspected to come from.

      MR TONER: You’re – I’m sorry. You’re talking – say you have not seen this expressed --

      QUESTION: No, I’m saying no, we have not. We have not seen anything.

      MR TONER: I just haven’t – I am not aware of the incidents.

      QUESTION: Are you in touch with the Israelis on these things? Are you coordinating with them? I mean, you have a great deal of law enforcement and security coordinations with them. Are you coordinating with them in fact operationally or otherwise to bring these suspects to justice?

      MR TONER: You’re talking about in the attacks in the Palestinian – yeah.

      QUESTION: Yes. Yeah, those suspected – right, yes.

      MR TONER: I don’t know if we’re actually cooperating with them on this case, but we have every confidence that they’re able to carry out this investigation.

      QUESTION: You are? So --

      MR TONER: Let’s let the process play out.

      QUESTION: So you have every confidence, then, that the Israelis can bring these perpetrators to justice?

      MR TONER: Yes.

    • Although Ya'alon has said he knows who committed the Duma murderers, he announced today that there will be no indictments.

  • Obama administration will do nothing for Palestinians through end of term
  • 'New York Times' to Palestinians: Drop dead
  • Ann Lewis and AIPAC pressured Democratic thinktank to censor writers deemed 'anti-Israel'
    • Thanks, JLD. As always you are a wealth of excellent links.

    • Yeah that human rights activist Bob Dylan…not.

      Agreed. In 2011 Dylan crossed BDS lines to play in Tel Aviv. A few months later Amnesty International released a fund-raising CD Chimes of Freedom: The Songs of Bob Dylan Honoring 50 Years of Amnesty International. I vociferously protested on the Amnesty web site using the Kahane info but found myself very much in the minority. Universal human rights apparently mean different things to different people.

    • Dylan recorded Gotta Serve Somebody in 1979 just a few years after he said about Kahane in a 1971 Time Magazine interview, "He's a really sincere guy. He's really put it all together." Kahane acknowledged that Dylan had been attending JDL meetings. Kahane served a one-year prison sentence for a 1971 JDL incendiary device-making incident.

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  • Hillary Clinton promises to invite Netanyahu to White House in her first month
    • Glenn Greenwald in the Intercept today:

      LEAKED INTERNAL EMAILS from the powerful Democratic think tank Center for American Progress (CAP) shed light on several public controversies involving the organization, particularly in regard to its positioning on Israel. They reveal the lengths to which the group has gone in order to placate AIPAC and long-time Clinton operative and Israel activist Ann Lewis — including censoring its own writers on the topic of Israel.

      The emails also provide crucial context for understanding CAP’s controversial decision to host an event next week for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That event, billed by CAP as “A Conversation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,” will feature CAP President Neera Tanden and Netanyahu together in a Q&A session as they explore “ways to strengthen the partnership between Israel and the United States.” That a group whose core mission is loyalty to the White House and the Democratic Party would roll out the red carpet for a hostile Obama nemesis is bizarre, for reasons the Huffington Post laid out when it reported on the controversy provoked by CAP’s invitation...

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  • 'Washington Post' publishes Elliott Abrams' diatribe against Palestinians without rejoinder
  • The US spends $35 billion on foreign aid . . . but where does the money really go?
    • Just don't call it incitement.

      QUESTION: Just to go back to these sort of statements by the Israeli prime minister’s media advisor, I mean, one post was about building a third Jewish temple in the al-Aqsa compound. So I mean, his is to basically improve the Israeli Government’s image around the world, and his past is basically supporting building a third temple. During the conversation between the Secretary and Prime Minister Netanyahu, did that ever come up? I mean, can you give more detail about how somebody who sort of said these things which can inflame tensions between Israelis and Palestinians could be chosen for such a role like this?

      MR KIRBY: I don’t really think I can add to my comments before. I said we found the comments that he made in the past in a private capacity – we have found those troubling and offensive. We’ve noted that an apology – we’ve said we believe that that was warranted. I’ve also noted that the prime minister himself said that he would be reviewing the appointment upon his return to the United States. This is for Prime Minister Netanyahu to decide, obviously, and we respect that. But I don’t know that I could add anything more to what I’ve said in answer to Matt’s question with respect to his comments.

      QUESTION: Can I just --

      QUESTION: Well – but on the – what you said were troubling and offensive were his comments about President Obama and Secretary Kerry, not necessarily – are you saying that the comments that he made about a third temple --

      MR KIRBY: We certainly --

      QUESTION: -- are also troubling and offensive? Because that’s the kind of talk that has – that the Secretary was referring to – at least some of it – on the Israeli side --

      MR KIRBY: Right.

      QUESTION: -- when he talked about inflammatory rhetoric, things that he --

      MR KIRBY: Certainly, those comments too are troubling and not in keeping with the kind of future we want to see for the holy sites and for Jerusalem. So obviously, we certainly don’t associate ourselves with comments like that. But look, this is an issue for Prime Minister Netanyahu to deal with.

    • Mr. Kirby: "But it’s – we learn in kindergarten about name-calling, and it’s simply not a polite thing to do."

      QUESTION: And finally, I have one last question. Seems that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appointed a spokesman who has basically made allegations that the president – President Obama was anti-Semitic and so on. Is that something that you – I mean, do you have any comment on that?

      MR KIRBY: Yeah, we’ve seen reports of Mr. Baratz’s previous comments about U.S. officials. We understand those comments were made in his private capacity. His comments about U.S. officials, including the President and Secretary Kerry, we believe were troubling and offensive. We obviously expect government officials from any country, especially our closest allies, to speak respectfully and truthfully about senior U.S. government officials. The Secretary spoke with Prime Minister Netanyahu this morning, and we understand that the prime minister will be reviewing this appointment when he returns from his visit to the United States. And I would refer you to the Government of Israel for any additional comment.

      QUESTION: That’s an interesting response, given what your colleague at the White House had to say, which was basically we want to stay out of this and noted that the person in question had apologized for the remarks. Your colleague, Josh Earnest, said that they were aware of the apology and thought that an apology was fully warranted.

      MR KIRBY: And we would agree, certainly.

      QUESTION: Right. But are you suggesting that you would like to see him – by saying that you understand the prime minister is going to review this nomination, are you saying that you think that perhaps he should rescind the nomination, that it’s a bad choice?

      MR KIRBY: I didn’t say – no, I didn’t say that. I said that I’m – all I did was repeat what the prime minister told Secretary Kerry, which was it is his intention to review the appointment when he returns from the United States.

      QUESTION: Right.

      MR KIRBY: But I completely agree with Mr. Earnest and his characterization about the apology being warranted.

      QUESTION: Did Secretary Kerry call Prime Minister Netanyahu specifically because of this appointment?

      MR KIRBY: They – I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu initiated this particular call. I know this was a topic of it. I don’t know – I can’t say whether they discussed other issues.

      QUESTION: This seems to be a recurring theme among minute members of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s cabinet.

      MR KIRBY: Minute members?

      QUESTION: Members --

      MR KIRBY: Members.

      QUESTION: -- of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s cabinet, making – by name – disparaging remarks about senior U.S. officials. Does this cause you any concern?

      MR KIRBY: Well --

      QUESTION: And conversely, does it cause you concern that there are – seem to be numerous American officials speaking on background who have been disparaging of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israeli government officials? Is this indicative of the poor state of relations between the two countries?

      MR KIRBY: I don’t have the history of every comment spoken by people on either side, but that aside, obviously name-calling and insults, certainly, aimed at individuals doesn’t do anything to help advance and deepen the relationship, which is where Secretary Kerry wants it to go. And it was clear to him that that’s where Prime Minister Netanyahu wants things to go, too. And so our focus is on that. But it’s – we learn in kindergarten about name-calling, and it’s simply not a polite thing to do. And it’s certainly not helpful when you’ve got – excuse me – you got bigger fish to fry.

      Sorry, my voice is going here.

      QUESTION: It is going. But I’d say it’s striking that you would say that, considering that that seems to be in itself a bit of name-calling, no? I mean, one of the things that the new Israeli spokesman has apologized for is saying that Secretary Kerry’s – his – he’s got the – a pre-teen – his thoughts are like a 12-year-old.

      MR KIRBY: No, no, no.

      QUESTION: Now you’re talking about kindergarteners here.

      MR KIRBY: I’m just talking about – it’s a rule you learn when you’re a very young child about the – about trying to avoid name-calling. And again, it’s not helpful. But we’re not focused on this, Matt.

      QUESTION: Okay.

      MR KIRBY: We’re focused on the relationship and moving it forward. And the Secretary was grateful for the conversation he had with Prime Minister Netanyahu. And as far as we’re concerned, we’re looking forward to his visit here to the United States and to spending time working on issues that really do matter.

      QUESTION: Right. Okay. So this chapter is closed as far as you’re concerned?

      MR KIRBY: As far as we’re concerned, yeah.

    • And Baratz said that Kerry's mental age does not exceed that of a twelve-year old. The State Dept daily briefing today could be very interesting.

  • PLO report: Israel killed 73 Palestinians in October
  • Karmah Elmusa rocks Elle Magazine
  • 'Why I am a Zionist'
    • Like all hominids, Afrikaners' ancestral homeland is in South Africa, the cradle of humankind. Afrikaners from Europe clearly had the right to take the land for their apartheid regime. Right, Max?

  • Video: Israeli military tells Palestinian refugee camp, 'We will gas you until you die'
    • A spokesman for the Palestinian Health Ministry said Ramadan Thawabteh died after the gas seeped into his house in Bethlehem not far from where clashes broke out between youths and Israeli soldiers.

      Thanks, talknic.

    • Okay, thanks everybody. Have a great weekend.

      QUESTION: Okay. And also to just follow up on what you were saying on the excessive use of force, let’s say like in Aida Camp yesterday outside Bethlehem, they basically were telling people, “We’re going to gas you to death.” I mean, some really awful inciting statements and so on. So it seems to be accelerating. Isn’t that – doesn’t that translate into an excessive use of force?

      MR KIRBY: I appreciate that you want me to characterize incidents. And as I said before, I’m not going to do that. For every comment or every incident, I’m simply not going to get into characterizing them, Said. I will simply repeat what I’ve said before: We want all sides to take affirmative action and steps to end the violence and to stress and to urge calm. That’s what we really want to see happen here, because you – the ultimate goal here is for people to be able to live in peace, to go about their lives safely and securely. And that’s what the Secretary is focused on, and that’s why he was grateful for the time that he had with leaders last week. That’s why he’s glad that all agreed to the installation of these cameras. And he looks forward to seeing that happen and getting them in use to increase transparency. And that’s what we’re focused on.

      Okay, thanks everybody. Have a great weekend.

  • Letter to J.K. Rowling: For the sake of all Palestinian children who love Harry you need to say their lives matter
  • Netanyahu's having a better week in the Democratic Party than Hillary Clinton!
    • Sanders and Trump have both rejected support from Super PACs. So their campaigns' donations are entirely limited by federal contribution legal caps. Obama was supported by Super PACs in both 2008 and 2012.

    • Donald Trump: "I've been loyal to Israel from the day I was born. My father, Fred Trump was loyal to Israel before me. The only one that's going to give Israel the kind of support it needs is Donald Trump."

    • So Hillary isn't having a good week? Celebrity news site Radar Online is reporting today that Dershowitz is investigating whether Bill Clinton participated in sex orgies with underage girls on Epstein's notorious island. Dershowitz says it's a possibility and has his own attorney, former FBI Director Louis Freeh, investigating using FOIA requests. I do hope Mrs. Clinton's week improves.

    • Unless your state is a close swing state, I don't see why you would want to confine your vote choice to the two major parties. Vote your conscience. Sleep without guilt.

    • Ben Norton reports on this vote at Salon and he discusses the Israel angle as we all here expect him to do. link to

  • (Update) This year for Halloween your child too can help defend the Israeli occupation
    • At lunch hour today I rummaged through the Halloween section of the Dearborn Wal-Mart. I didn't see any Fagin noses or IDF costumes, but just as scary there were Power Ranger costumes everywhere. Ka-ching for Saban.

  • Palestinian Harry Potter fan challenges J. K. Rowling on BDS using lessons from Hogwarts
    • It would have been even better if he had said 'Lydda, Palestine'.

    • Here are some of the more recent headlines. It's disappointing that she opposes boycott, but this is hardly a hasbara victory:

      The National (UK): Palestinian’s letter to JK Rowling goes viral

      The Times of India: Author JK Rowling blasts Israel for brutal and unjust treatment of Palestinian people

      The Telegraph: JK Rowling speaks out against 'brutal' treatment of Palestinian people by Israel

      RT: JK Rowling condemns 'brutal' Israeli govt, but rejects cultural boycott

      Haaretz: JK Rowling condemns 'brutal' Israeli govt, but rejects cultural boycott

      The Hindu: JK Rowling blasts Israel over Palestine issue

      The Mirror (UK): JK Rowling slams Israeli government over Palestine but says cultural boycott would silence 'important voices'

      Arutz Sheva: Harry Potter author opposes boycott, but also Israeli policy

      Examiner (US): J.K. Rowling culturally puts Israelis in same category as deatheaters

      Jewish Press: Harry Potter author compares Israel to her most harrowing characters

    • Miko, that occurred to me after I posted. I probably should have capitalized the P in Press. Thanks, Annie.

    • Thank you, Mia and Annie.

      On Tuesday, Rowling issued a further clarification in which she compares Israel to Voldemort's Death Eaters, explaining that Dumbledore engaged with the Death Eater Snape. She adds, the "Palestinian community has suffered untold injustice and brutality. I want to see the Israeli government held to account for that injustice and brutality. Boycotting Israel on every possible front has its allure. It satisfies the human urge to do something, anything, in the face of horrific human suffering."

      The Jewish press is most unhappy with her now.

  • Boston-area conference aims to change the US political equation on Israel and Palestine
    • I suppose we should feel honored that MJR will be speaking with two Palestinians. Just today MJR was saying on Twitter, in criticism of Phil's desire for Ali Abunimah to be heard more in the press, that Jews are more effective advocates in the condemnation of Israel. Phil "just doesn't understand effective advocacy. Hence...Mondoweiss." Jeesh.

  • Netanyahu: 'We need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future'
    • I think Mr. Kirby and Mr. Toner are 'dumb' and 'dumber'.

      QUESTION: Today the Prime Minister Netanyahu gave a speech on the occasion of the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, and he said that he lives by the sword – he must live by the sword – and that Israel must control the territories for the foreseeable future. Does that mean the end of any possible process from your point of view, so the end of the two-state solution?

      MR KIRBY: I didn’t see the prime minister’s speech, so again, I’m not going to comment on --

      QUESTION: This is all over the place. That’s exactly what he said.

      MR KIRBY: Hang on a second. No, you’ve got to give me a chance to come back at you here.

      QUESTION: Okay, go ahead.

      MR KIRBY: So look, I haven’t seen his comments, and as I said last week, I’m not going to get into the business of parsing everybody’s statements, one way or the other.

  • 'Come and see!' (and you will understand)
    • Thanks, Rev. DeYoe. On that day in June 2014 that the US Presbyterian General Assembly announced support for divestment I rode in a taxi from East Jerusalem to see Bethlehem. Our Palestinian cab driver pointed out St. Andrews proudly flying it's Saltire. I smiled. I wish you well. And many thanks to IPMN.

  • JK Rowling stumps for Israel -- what would Harry Potter do?
    • Two-time Oscar winner Emma Thompson, who played Professor Sybill Trelawney in the Harry Potter films, would certainly disagree with JKR. Thompson was among a group of British actors calling on the Globe Theatre in London to withdraw an invitation to the Israeli National Theatre in 2012

    • Yale Literature Professor Harold Bloom once commented on one of her novels:

      I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

      But when I wrote that in a newspaper, I was denounced. I was told that children would now read only J.K. Rowling, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Rowling was what it took to make them pick up a book, wasn't that a good thing?

      It is not. "Harry Potter" will not lead our children on to Kipling's "Just So Stories" or his "Jungle Book." It will not lead them to Thurber's "Thirteen Clocks" or Kenneth Grahame's "Wind in the Willows" or Lewis Carroll's "Alice."

  • Fact Check: MSNBC’s Palestinian loss of land map
  • State Dep't slams Netanyahu's Hitler story as 'inflammatory' and against 'scholarly evidence'
    • Had not heard of the mufti? Google counts 184 articles before October on Mondoweiss that reference the mufti (or where a comment does).

    • Netanyahu: 'No, I wouldn't kill Baby Hitler. I would kill Baby Mufti.'

    • Palestinian leaders talk about “Jews and their filthy feet” defiling the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif

      May I suggest that the IDF troops remove their boots whenever they decide to storm the sacred mosque.

    • Here is how a couple other news sources described it.

      Kerry made no reference to Netanyahu's suggestion this week that Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem during the 1940s, persuaded Adolf Hitler to exterminate the Jews.

      Washington Post:

      Though Kerry did not specifically mention the incident, Netanyahu himself has been harshly criticized by Palestinians, opposition politicians and historians for comments he made Tuesday that the mufti of Jerusalem gave Hitler the idea of killing Jews during World War II.

    • Thanks, Phil, but I think you may be reading too much into Kerry's statement. Your quoted text of Kerry condemning all incitement was immediately preceded by Netanyahu saying

      We generally hope – we have to stop the terrorism. To stop the terrorism, we have to stop the incitement. And I think it’s time that the international community told President Abbas to stop the incitement and hold him accountable for his words and his deeds.

      In that context, Kerry was not referring specifically to the Mufti remarks but generally to all incitement. The State Department seems to be avoiding describing Netanyahu's comment as incitement, despite considerable push-back from Matt Lee, Said Erekat, and other correspondents.

  • Despite global disgust, Netanyahu doubles down on claim that Hitler got idea of Final Solution from a Palestinian
    • and unfortunately I found a remark by our illustrious Secretary of State..

      Thanks, Brown-Eyed Girl. I read this not as a quote of Kerry but of Netanyahu.

    • I am very sorry about this very long quote, but it's a bit hilarious. Matt Lee in charge:

      QUESTION: I have one more and then I’ll stop. Just the – Prime Minister Netanyahu has been complaining vociferously about incitement coming from the Palestinian side, and the Secretary and you have all – as well as the President – have all talked about the need to stop incitement. In that context, I’m wondering if you saw Prime Minister Netanyahu’s comments from last night about the Holocaust and about the grand mufti of Jerusalem and whether you think that that, as some Palestinians have suggested, amounts to incitement.

      MR KIRBY: Well, again, I’m not going to get into specific characterizations. I’ve tried to avoid that recently. We’ve certainly seen and we’re aware of the prime minister’s statements. And as President Obama said, certainly Secretary Kerry has made clear, we want to stress publicly and privately the importance of preventing inflammatory rhetoric, accusations, or actions on both sides that can lead to violence.

      QUESTION: Well, can I pick up on that?

      QUESTION: Does this count? I mean, does this go – does that – does this enter that category?

      MR KIRBY: I’m not going to characterize each and every statement or action. I think we’ve been clear about what we want to see, which is moving away from rhetoric or actions that just encourage the violence. But I’m not going to get into characterizing each one.

      QUESTION: Is it historically correct? Do you believe that --

      MR KIRBY: I’m also not going to get into a historical debate about this. We’ve seen the press reports of his comments, and if you look at them they would connote that the scholarly evidence does not support that position.

      QUESTION: Well, can I – may I?

      MR KIRBY: Do I really have a choice? (Laughter.)

      QUESTION: Not really. When you say something like that, I mean, come on. You stand at this podium day after day and you talk about incitement and the Palestinians incite something, and then the prime minister says something that is not only obviously factually incorrect but just so exploitative in this environment, and you’re dancing around the fact that it was inappropriate without just kind of saying what you’re hinting at, that these were inflammatory remarks that only contribute to the type of destabilization that you’re asking.

      MR KIRBY: Right. No, Elise, I mean, I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been, I think, consistent and I’m going to stay consistent that we’re not going to get into a characterization of each and every incident and each and every word spoken. What we want to see and we want – I think what we want to do is for everybody to take a few steps back, and we want to see the inflammatory rhetoric, we want to see inflammatory actions, we want to see provocative movements, all that stuff stop so that there can be an end to the violence, so that there can be some political breathing space for some real solutions.

      QUESTION: (Off-mike.)

      QUESTION: May I? When you go – I mean, you do say when there are Holocaust deniers and such, you’re quick to point out the inaccuracy of their statements. So I take it to mean that the reason that you’re not publicly criticizing it is because you think that this would just contribute to a bad climate of – what?

      MR KIRBY: Well, I think I’m going to leave my answer the way it was. We’ve seen the press reports of the prime minister’s comments, and in those reports you can see for yourself the scholarly evidence obviously supports a different position. But again, what we – what needs to happen here and why the Secretary is going is to try to find ways – practical, tangible, concrete ways – to reduce the violence.

      QUESTION: Two last quick ones. First of all, you just mentioned that he was going to Jordan to meet with leaders there. I assume you mean that he’s going to meet with President Abbas and King Abdullah.

      MR KIRBY: He is expected to meet with – well, I should say planning to meet with President Abbas and the king, yes.

      QUESTION: And then one last one. You talk about kind of you want to discuss practical ways and have a meaningful discussion. Do I take that to mean that you – while this is not obviously the beginning of a restarting of the peace process, do you consider this trip as kind of the beginning of a discussion where you see the Secretary might be traveling there a little bit more often to try and calm the situation? Like, it doesn’t seem like these two meetings in and of themselves are going to reach some kind of big agreement where things are going to be able to calm down.

      MR KIRBY: Well, let’s not get ahead of meetings that haven’t happened yet and discussions that haven’t taken place. I think I’d just go back to my answer to Matt. I mean, the Secretary believes right now this is an important trip for him to make, these are important discussions for him to have given the spate of violence, and to try to work towards practical ways in which political breathing space can be had, that – to help end the violence. That’s really the focus here --

      QUESTION: But do you see this – but do you see this as the beginning of a dialogue or do you – like, are you hoping for deliverables out of these particular meetings?

      MR KIRBY: Again, I don’t want to get ahead of meetings that haven’t happened yet. I’d – I would say – I would characterize this as a continuation of a dialogue, Elise, that you know the Secretary continues have with leaders in the region, and to include Prime Minister Netanyahu.

      QUESTION: John, let me just follow up on the issue that we began the discussion with. So you don’t find it outrageous that the prime minister of Israel is basically trying to say that the Holocaust was inspired by a Palestinian?

      MR KIRBY: Said, I think I’ve answered the question.

      QUESTION: Well, I mean, try again. Let’s see – because your answer was not very clear. You find – don’t you find this outrageous?

      MR KIRBY: I think I’ve answered the question, Said. We’ve seen the reporting on his comments and in those reports, yourself, you can see that the scholarly evidence doesn’t hold that same view.

      QUESTION: Well, past evidence shows that when there’s that kind of rhetoric – I mean, we can go back all the way to 1995 when such rhetoric resulted in the assassination of the prime minister of Israel. I mean, not the same kind of rhetoric, but saying that the Israeli public or Israeli citizens are compromised by such efforts and so on led in fact – or inspired someone to assassinate the Israeli prime minister, for instance. So with this kind of rhetoric, what kind of atmosphere is the prime minister of Israel fomenting?

      MR KIRBY: Well, I – again, I’m not going to characterize or – every term and every line uttered. What we’d like to see are steps being taken, whether they’re in word or in deed, to reduce the tensions, to try to restore some calm, and to end this terrible violence that’s going on. And that’s what the Secretary’s trying to do on this trip, that’s why he’s going, and that’s where his focus is.

      QUESTION: But that’s not really – forgive me, but that’s not parsing every word or every incident and so on. This is the prime minister of Israel, with whom the Secretary of State will be meeting in a day or two. I mean, coming out to say something that is outrageous, to say – as Elise said – is not historically accurate and so on. So doesn’t that warrant some sort of a statement by you guys, in this case, by the Administration on such inflammatory rhetoric?

      MR KIRBY: Again, Said, we’d made our desires plain and clear about what we want to see happen there in the region.

      QUESTION: What about the point that what he said is basically wrong? Doesn’t the Administration have an obligation to call out an ally and say, “What you said is inaccurate”?

      MR KIRBY: Roz, I’m going to say the same thing here. What we want to see if for calm to be restored, for any inflammatory rhetoric on any side to stop, because ultimately anything that encourages the violence to continue is unhelpful to the security environment there. The Secretary talked about this a little bit last night at the Foreign Policy dinner, about the desire by everybody here at the State Department for innocent men, women, and children to be able to walk the streets safely and to go about their lives normally, and that’s what we want to see here. But I’m simply not going to get into characterizing each and every line.

      QUESTION: That’s right, but --

      MR KIRBY: Again, the scholarly evidence and the press reporting itself speaks for what the position is with respect to the history of the Holocaust.

      QUESTION: But when the German Government has to come out and say that what Netanyahu said was wrong; when the leadership of Yad Vashem has to come out and say that what he said was wrong; when the opposition leader, Mr. Herzog, comes out and says that what Mr. Netanyahu said was wrong; shouldn’t the U.S. at the very least challenge the accuracy of what Mr. Netanyahu said?

      MR KIRBY: I think what we’re trying to do here is take a larger view. And rather than getting into commentary on every word uttered and every act taken –

      QUESTION: Sorry, sorry.

      MR KIRBY: That’s a really nice ring tone.

      QUESTION: No, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. (Laughter.)

      MR KIRBY: We’re trying to get to a point – I mean, I think try – the Secretary wants to take a larger view here, and that is to get the violence to stop, get calm to be restored, and to try to find ways – concrete ways – that we can get to that outcome. And that’s what he’s focused on, and I think that’s the right – I think that is the right focus here.

      QUESTION: John, how --

      QUESTION: And I can appreciate that, but it’s one thing to say something that could be construed as being bigoted or prejudiced or racist. It’s another thing to say something that is a lie. Shouldn’t the U.S. say, “Mr. Prime Minister, what you said is wrong”?

      MR KIRBY: What the Secretary believes the U.S. should do is to look for ways to end the violence and to move forward, so that eventually we can make progress towards a two-state solution. That’s what the Secretary thinks the U.S. should be doing, and that’s why he’s making this trip.

      QUESTION: Yeah, but --

      QUESTION: Change of subject?

      QUESTION: No, no, no, no, hold on.

      QUESTION: The problem --

      MR KIRBY: You said you were done with this.

      QUESTION: No. Well, you opened the door. No one’s asking you to comment on every single comment that’s been made.

      MR KIRBY: Yeah.

      QUESTION: No, we’re not – not every single one. We’re asking about one specific one, which you even yourself acknowledge is historically inaccurate.

      MR KIRBY: What I said was the scholarly evidence takes a different view, a different position on that.

      QUESTION: Okay, scholarly evidence takes a different view and --

      MR KIRBY: And I said that.

      QUESTION: So no one’s asking you about anything else. It’s not – you say, “I’m not going to comment on every single word that comes out” – we’re not.

      MR KIRBY: No, but Matt, you can see where we’ll get into this day by day, and what I’m trying to do is tamp down your expectations for me to characterize each and every comment made, because there’s going to – there could very well be more coming from who knows who. So what I’m trying to do --

      QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

      MR KIRBY: What I’m trying to do is stress where the Secretary’s head is, which is --

      QUESTION: Well, my expectations can’t be tamped down much further than they already are, so --

      MR KIRBY: Well, then --

      QUESTION: -- I wish you luck with that.

      MR KIRBY: Then I win, I guess.

      QUESTION: (Laughter.) Well, it’s not a question of winning or losing. It’s a question of whether you’re willing to stand up and take a stand, and it sounds like you’ll say that the scholarly evidence supports a different position, but you won’t say that you think that this was an unhelpful – these were unhelpful comments to make in the broader scheme of what’s going – the intense atmosphere and tensions that are – that exist there. Now, if you’re not willing to do that, I guess that you’re not. So – but I mean, I don’t think – but I don’t think it should go – be – I don’t think it should be glossed over or passed unnoticed that you’re not – that you’re refusing – that the Administration is refusing to take a critical position on this.

    • Right wing talk radio is also showing support for Netanyahu today. And Glenn Beck's Blaze.

  • Facing down hecklers in NY, Gideon Levy calls for equal rights for all in one state
    • [Levy] says emphatically that Israel is practicing apartheid in its occupied territories...A lot of heckling after that
      Three days ago Ken Roth, executive director of HRW, linked to Levy's latest Haaretz piece. Roth tweeted:

      Haaretz on today's Israel: "Democracy for..Jews; discrimination for..Israeli Arabs; & apartheid for..Palestinians"
      link to

      Roth's twitter post got a few "hecklers" too.

  • White House knows the violence stems from occupation, but won't spend political capital to say so -- Dakwar
    • Mr Toner must be gunning for Mr Kirby's job.

    • I am unaware that the State Department has condemned the lynching of the Eritrean, other than to say that "people shouldn't take the law into their own hands". From yesterday's briefing (in which Mr. Toner later "condemned" a specific act of ISIL):

      QUESTION: I just want to follow on Brad’s point.

      MR TONER: Please.

      QUESTION: I mean, he’s talking about a lynch mob kind of atmosphere, and there is obviously heightened rhetoric that contributes to that kind of --

      MR TONER: And we’ve spoken to that as well, Said. We’ve said that everybody needs to – sorry – everybody needs to tone down the rhetoric, reduce the violence, take affirmative action, affirmative steps --

      QUESTION: I think Brad’s point – he is saying that, look, the people stomping; it’s hatred and all these things. That’s a lynch mob kind of atmosphere. I mean, you certainly warn against such a thing, right?

      MR TONER: I – again, I go back to – I don’t know how I could say much more clearly is people should not take the law into their own hands.

      QUESTION: But there were incidents where actually the law enforcement, whether it’s the Israeli army or the police and so on, were actually looking at similar incidents – maybe not so graphic as the one we’ve seen, but in past incidents. So you would call on Israeli authorities and the police and so on not to use excessive force, which you backtracked from the other day.

      MR TONER: We – no, that’s – look, we always call on frankly not just Israeli security forces but security forces all over the world to exercise proper restraint. That being said, we certainly recognize Israel’s right to defend itself separate and apart from what we’re talking about here, which is, as you said, this incident involving the death of an Eritrean man. I – again, I think I said it pretty clearly that there’s heightened fear, anger; there’s a lot of emotion. People – as the mayor of Beersheba said, people shouldn’t take the law into their own hands. There’s an investigation underway. Let’s let that play itself out.

  • PLO: France to submit Security Council resolution on international protection force at al-Aqsa mosque
  • Critics hammer 'NYT's Rudoren for daring to convey Palestinian experience
    • Last year I heard Rashid Khalidi, an historian living in NY, explain that the first copy of the NYT is published on paper and delivered to an ethnic local market, whereas the revisions are published online for a more cosmopolitan global market.

      But here is an example of a revision becoming more narrow in view, perhaps because of pressure.

    • Thanks, tree. I thought the same about the "softening".

    • Well this didn't take long: The NYT has posted an article titled, "Soul-Searching in Israel After Mob Attack". Long time readers of the NYT know very well how Israel engages in "soul-searching" after many high-profile atrocities whereas it is never reported that Palestinians engage in self-reflection. We must therefore assume only one people have souls to search.

    • The first copy of the NYT article has this paragraph:

      Israel officially offers citizenship to all Jerusalem Palestinians, but a tiny fraction apply. Residency provides parallel benefits, except the right to vote in national elections. (With 37 percent of Jerusalem’s population, Palestinians could wield influence in local balloting, but they boycott to avoid endorsing Israel’s sovereignty.)

      But either Rudoren or the NYT editors have removed the last two sentences, leaving only the first.

  • 'Caught on Camera': Extrajudicial killings of Palestinians
  • Israel approves stop-and-frisk just as Mayor de Blasio arrives in solidarity
    • Indeed. Debbie Wasserman Schultz must be thinking she is Sergeant Schultz. She knows nothing, absolutely nothing, about Netanyahu's intrigues.

  • Rubio prays for Israel, and auditions for Adelson
    • Hyman Roth Sheldon Adelson always makes money for his partners...Just one small step, looking for a man who wants to be President of the United States, and having the cash to make it possible. Michael Marco, we're bigger than U.S. Steel.

  • Larry Summers holds forth on subjects he doesn't know about
    • Larry Summers' principal accomplishment in life has been shepherding the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Hopefully Summers will accomplish for Zionism what he did for the U.S. financial system.

  • East Jerusalem is closed for Palestinians, but settlers march unimpeded
    • [Netanyahu] also justified the killing of Palestinian attackers, saying that such a policy deters others.

      That's quite an admission. It's a public admission of a policy of extrajudicial killing. Is there an exact quote for this? I bet the ICC prosecutor would be interested to know.

  • No Context: In a month of 'New York Times' coverage, Israeli military occupation goes nearly unmentioned
    • I would love to see the NYT use the same language to describe Israel in the OPT as it does with Russia in the Crimea: sieze, storm, confiscate and occupy, rather than capture, disputed and settle.

  • Hillary Clinton expresses alarm for Israeli Jews, and not one word about Palestinian victims
    • Dang. Still sober. Webb only one yet to put in a word for our "ally Israel".

    • Ben Carson supports the "Egypt solution" for Gaza. He wants to "slip" (i.e. quietly expel) the Palestinians into the Sinai Desert.

    • And just as Jerry Falwell was the foremost US supporter of RSA Apartheid--he called Bishop Tutu a phony--his organizational descendants are the most numerous supports of Israeli Apartheid. At least they're consistent.

    • I guess you Mondoweiss dweebs have to ask yourself why is it that taking a pro Israel point of view appeals to the American electorate."

      Cuz we Americans know supporting Israel is necessary for Jeezbus to come in the clouds with guns for all singing Hank Williams Jr. to smite the Muslims, homosexuals and Darwinists.

    • I will be watching the debate with my shot glass in hand. Bottoms up whenever she says "violence" or "rockets".

  • Mourners of Gaza mother and child killed in airstrike urge resistance-- '3rd, 4th, 5th intifada, whatever it takes'
    • Thank you, Dan. Decades ago an image such as your first photo would have become well-known. We've just become too inured to violence now. Persevere.

  • 'Replace' the mosques? Once again, 'NYT' soft-pedals Israeli extremism
  • 'It's like military reserve duty': Jerusalem mayor calls on Israelis to carry guns as tension soars
    • On the West Bank, Jewish villages are easily distinguishable from non-Jewish ones by their red-roofed homes;

      Plus, Palestinian town buildings have black water tanks on the roof just in case water pressure is cut by the occupiers. The settlers have no worry.

    • Not quite O/T: Open carry gun groups around the US have organized a day of anti-Muslim rallies across the country tomorrow Saturday. Rallies are scheduled in Atlanta, Huntsville, Louisville and Ocala, Florida. Here in Dearborn open carry groups are set to protest at the largest mosque in the U.S. and its adjoining elementary school. Anti-Muslim protesters are encouraged by the groups to open carry. This is sick.

  • In Israel/Palestine we are witnessing the end of a colonial regime
    • @mcohen. I believe the majority of Mondoweiss commenters and staff support 1S1P1V. Many others like myself are open to any solution that is democratic and agreeable to the Palestinians. Supporters of 1S1P1V are routinely unfairly attacked by Zionists as anti-Semitic because the demographic accounting suggests that such a state will not be Jewish majority and thus deny the Jewish people self-determination--as if the principle were developed for the benefit of the colonists rather than the defense of the colonized.

  • At a settler sit-in in Jerusalem, they speak in American accents about 'our land'
    • The PA continues its role as an outsourced Israeli police force, with Abu Mazen calling on the police force to crush the demonstrations as quickly as possible.

      Clearly his UN speech stating that the PA would not be bound by Oslo amounts to empty words.

  • Howard Stern says no one lived in Palestine before Jews got there, but Roger Waters wants them to go 'back to concentration camp'
    • Howard spends a lot of time discussing the dimensions of his 'prick' and what makes 'boobs' exemplary. I don't think he is necessarily an expert on Israeli history unless Israel was founded by pricks and boobs.

  • Families from threatened Palestinian villages Susiya and Um al-Kheir bring their stories to the US
  • 'We want him to speak up on Palestine': Boston SJP statement on being kicked out of Bernie Sanders rally
  • Two Palestinian teenagers killed by Israeli forces in West Bank clashes
    • Thanks, just. The rules just don't apply to Israel.

    • Two interesting developments at today's US State Dept briefing:
      (1) Eitan Henkin was a US citizen. Confirmed by Mr. Toner.
      (2) There are "suggestions" in the Israeli press that the arsonist killers of the Dawabsheh family in Duma were also US citizens.

      On (1), my recollection is that U.S. citizens cannot serve as officers in foreign uniforms. It has been discussed here that Henkin held an officer's rank. What's going on?
      On (2), has anyone here read any references that the arsonists may have been Americans?

  • 'Third intifada was launched,' Palestinian law student posted before carrying out fatal attack in Jerusalem
    • K Renner Running around screaming with uzis, burning crops and attacking Palestinian vehicles, looking for “dirty Arabs” to try and lynch?

      HRW: "When individual settlers take an active part in hostilities, as opposed to acting in legitimate self-defense, they lose their civilian protection and become legitimate military targets during the period of their participation..”

    • Briefly: "Israeli civilians living in the settlements, so long as they do not take up arms and take an active part in hostilities, are noncombatants. When individual settlers take an active part in hostilities, as opposed to acting in legitimate self-defense, they lose their civilian protection and become legitimate military targets during the period of their participation.."

      Also, "International humanitarian law makes clear...that reserve or off-duty soldiers who are not at that moment subject to the integrated disciplinary command of the armed forces are considered civilians until the time that they become subject to military command-meaning, until they are effectively incorporated into the armed forces. Their incorporation into the regular armed forces is most frequently signified by wearing a uniform or other identifiable insignia."

    • HRW has a lengthy discussion of the circumstances under which an Israeli settler in occupied territory is legally a combatant and when he is a civilian. link to

  • Bon Jovi's Tel Aviv gig is upstaged by Roger Waters's incantation of Israeli victims, including Dawabshe boy
  • To condemn, or not to condemn
    • And give the disenfranchised the vote in your racist state?

    • When an Israeli kills civilians he may just get elected prime minister. It wouldn't be the first or second time.

    • Human Rights Watch condemns the killing of the Henkins as "a despicable act that flies in the face of law and decency," :

      The killing of an Israeli couple in the occupied West Bank on October 1, 2015, apparently by members of a Palestinian armed group, is a serious violation of the laws of war.
      Eitam Henkin was a reserve officer in the Israeli army but not on active duty, an Israeli army spokesman said. Army reservists who are not on active duty are civilians and entitled to the protections that civilians enjoy under the laws of war, which are applicable in the occupied West Bank,
      In July, arsonists killed three members of the Dawabshe family – a husband, a wife, and their baby son – when they attacked the family’s home in the Palestinian village of Duma. Jewish militants are suspected in the attack, but Israeli authorities have not arrested any suspects.

      Over nearly five decades, Israel has settled hundreds of thousands of its citizens in the West Bank, in violation of the international law prohibiting an occupying power from transferring its civilian population to occupied territory. That illegal act, however, does not deprive Israeli settlers of their civilian status.

      “Civilian residents of Israeli settlements in the West Bank are protected under international law and not subject to attack,” [HRW Middle East director] Whitson said. “But Israel still has an obligation to remove them from the unlawful settlements.”

    • Osama bin Laden should not have been assassinated. Nor the Henkins.

    • And Beit Furik is very close to Duma too.

    • Beit Furik is also the location where the IDF assaulted two AFP journalists last week. link to

    • I think Abbas has an opportunity to demonstrate his resolve to not be bound by the Oslo accords by investigating the crime, arresting the perpetrators, and fairly trying them without handing them over to Israel or involving Israel in any way whatsoever.

  • In Ramallah, thousands celebrate Palestine at the UN amid doubt it will result in meaningful change
    • I see it's nightfall in Ramallah in the celebration. Celebrate quickly. Soon it will be midnight. The PA police will bid you a good night. And the IDF will make their rounds. God bless.

  • Netanyahu's 44 seconds of silence at UN are being widely mocked -- 'pathetic,' 'creepy'
    • RoHa-- Count yourself lucky if you've never heard of Bill-O.

    • Heh heh. I didn't know.

    • In the December 2014 Gallup "Most Admired Man" poll, Netanyahu is indeed the most admired foreign head of state behind Pope Francis. Well actually, he's tied with Vladimir Putin. Both Netanyahu and Putin each received 1% of the vote for most admired man to rank them tied at 10th in the overall list. Reuters commented on the poll, "Putin and Netanyahu, two of the most self-satisfied leaders in the world, also appear to be two of the most paranoid." Barack Obama, the nemesis of both Netanyahu and Putin, ranked first by a wide margin with 19%. Bill O'Reilly, who is not a foreign head of state, also garnered 1% of the vote. The sample size was 805. Congratulations to Netanyahu and Putin.

    • Gary Ginsberg, a top exec at Time Warner, has contributed to Netanyahu’s speeches and signature moments in the past, in violation of journalistic ethics. We wonder if he did so today.

      Wile E. Coyote didn't speak either.

    • `I don't think--'
      `Then you shouldn't talk,' said the Hatter.

  • As Palestine's flag is raised at U.N., Abbas dumps Oslo security obligations
    • These symbolic acts are actually counterproductive.

      Almost 50 years ago the Republic of Transkei declared its independence and raised its flag. Alas, that too proved counterproductive.

    • Israel was subject to much less international criticism when it was controlling all of the West Bank than it is now.

      Israel was subject to much less international criticism when the camera was not yet ubiquitous.

    • L.A. Times reports that Abbas added, “We cannot continue to be bound by these signed agreements with Israel, and Israel must assume fully all its responsibility as an occupying power”.

      If Abbas continues to allow the IDF unfettered entry into Palestinian cities to make "arrests" at night we will quickly know that his words are empty.

  • Palestinian solidarity movement will 'grow and grow and... be impossible to stop' -- Slaughter to Clinton in 2011

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