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  • 'Replace' the mosques? Once again, 'NYT' soft-pedals Israeli extremism
  • 'It's like military reserve duty': Jerusalem mayor calls on Israelis to carry guns as tension soars
    • On the West Bank, Jewish villages are easily distinguishable from non-Jewish ones by their red-roofed homes;

      Plus, Palestinian town buildings have black water tanks on the roof just in case water pressure is cut by the occupiers. The settlers have no worry.

    • Not quite O/T: Open carry gun groups around the US have organized a day of anti-Muslim rallies across the country tomorrow Saturday. Rallies are scheduled in Atlanta, Huntsville, Louisville and Ocala, Florida. Here in Dearborn open carry groups are set to protest at the largest mosque in the U.S. and its adjoining elementary school. Anti-Muslim protesters are encouraged by the groups to open carry. This is sick.

  • In Israel/Palestine we are witnessing the end of a colonial regime
    • @mcohen. I believe the majority of Mondoweiss commenters and staff support 1S1P1V. Many others like myself are open to any solution that is democratic and agreeable to the Palestinians. Supporters of 1S1P1V are routinely unfairly attacked by Zionists as anti-Semitic because the demographic accounting suggests that such a state will not be Jewish majority and thus deny the Jewish people self-determination--as if the principle were developed for the benefit of the colonists rather than the defense of the colonized.

  • At a settler sit-in in Jerusalem, they speak in American accents about 'our land'
    • The PA continues its role as an outsourced Israeli police force, with Abu Mazen calling on the police force to crush the demonstrations as quickly as possible.

      Clearly his UN speech stating that the PA would not be bound by Oslo amounts to empty words.

  • Howard Stern says no one lived in Palestine before Jews got there, but Roger Waters wants them to go 'back to concentration camp'
    • Howard spends a lot of time discussing the dimensions of his 'prick' and what makes 'boobs' exemplary. I don't think he is necessarily an expert on Israeli history unless Israel was founded by pricks and boobs.

  • Families from threatened Palestinian villages Susiya and Um al-Kheir bring their stories to the US
  • 'We want him to speak up on Palestine': Boston SJP statement on being kicked out of Bernie Sanders rally
  • Two Palestinian teenagers killed by Israeli forces in West Bank clashes
    • Thanks, just. The rules just don't apply to Israel.

    • Two interesting developments at today's US State Dept briefing:
      (1) Eitan Henkin was a US citizen. Confirmed by Mr. Toner.
      (2) There are "suggestions" in the Israeli press that the arsonist killers of the Dawabsheh family in Duma were also US citizens.

      On (1), my recollection is that U.S. citizens cannot serve as officers in foreign uniforms. It has been discussed here that Henkin held an officer's rank. What's going on?
      On (2), has anyone here read any references that the arsonists may have been Americans?

  • 'Third intifada was launched,' Palestinian law student posted before carrying out fatal attack in Jerusalem
    • K Renner Running around screaming with uzis, burning crops and attacking Palestinian vehicles, looking for “dirty Arabs” to try and lynch?

      HRW: "When individual settlers take an active part in hostilities, as opposed to acting in legitimate self-defense, they lose their civilian protection and become legitimate military targets during the period of their participation..”

    • Briefly: "Israeli civilians living in the settlements, so long as they do not take up arms and take an active part in hostilities, are noncombatants. When individual settlers take an active part in hostilities, as opposed to acting in legitimate self-defense, they lose their civilian protection and become legitimate military targets during the period of their participation.."

      Also, "International humanitarian law makes clear...that reserve or off-duty soldiers who are not at that moment subject to the integrated disciplinary command of the armed forces are considered civilians until the time that they become subject to military command-meaning, until they are effectively incorporated into the armed forces. Their incorporation into the regular armed forces is most frequently signified by wearing a uniform or other identifiable insignia."

    • HRW has a lengthy discussion of the circumstances under which an Israeli settler in occupied territory is legally a combatant and when he is a civilian. link to

  • Bon Jovi's Tel Aviv gig is upstaged by Roger Waters's incantation of Israeli victims, including Dawabshe boy
  • To condemn, or not to condemn
    • And give the disenfranchised the vote in your racist state?

    • When an Israeli kills civilians he may just get elected prime minister. It wouldn't be the first or second time.

    • Human Rights Watch condemns the killing of the Henkins as "a despicable act that flies in the face of law and decency," :

      The killing of an Israeli couple in the occupied West Bank on October 1, 2015, apparently by members of a Palestinian armed group, is a serious violation of the laws of war.
      Eitam Henkin was a reserve officer in the Israeli army but not on active duty, an Israeli army spokesman said. Army reservists who are not on active duty are civilians and entitled to the protections that civilians enjoy under the laws of war, which are applicable in the occupied West Bank,
      In July, arsonists killed three members of the Dawabshe family – a husband, a wife, and their baby son – when they attacked the family’s home in the Palestinian village of Duma. Jewish militants are suspected in the attack, but Israeli authorities have not arrested any suspects.

      Over nearly five decades, Israel has settled hundreds of thousands of its citizens in the West Bank, in violation of the international law prohibiting an occupying power from transferring its civilian population to occupied territory. That illegal act, however, does not deprive Israeli settlers of their civilian status.

      “Civilian residents of Israeli settlements in the West Bank are protected under international law and not subject to attack,” [HRW Middle East director] Whitson said. “But Israel still has an obligation to remove them from the unlawful settlements.”

    • Osama bin Laden should not have been assassinated. Nor the Henkins.

    • And Beit Furik is very close to Duma too.

    • Beit Furik is also the location where the IDF assaulted two AFP journalists last week. link to

    • I think Abbas has an opportunity to demonstrate his resolve to not be bound by the Oslo accords by investigating the crime, arresting the perpetrators, and fairly trying them without handing them over to Israel or involving Israel in any way whatsoever.

  • In Ramallah, thousands celebrate Palestine at the UN amid doubt it will result in meaningful change
    • I see it's nightfall in Ramallah in the celebration. Celebrate quickly. Soon it will be midnight. The PA police will bid you a good night. And the IDF will make their rounds. God bless.

  • Netanyahu's 44 seconds of silence at UN are being widely mocked -- 'pathetic,' 'creepy'
    • RoHa-- Count yourself lucky if you've never heard of Bill-O.

    • Heh heh. I didn't know.

    • In the December 2014 Gallup "Most Admired Man" poll, Netanyahu is indeed the most admired foreign head of state behind Pope Francis. Well actually, he's tied with Vladimir Putin. Both Netanyahu and Putin each received 1% of the vote for most admired man to rank them tied at 10th in the overall list. Reuters commented on the poll, "Putin and Netanyahu, two of the most self-satisfied leaders in the world, also appear to be two of the most paranoid." Barack Obama, the nemesis of both Netanyahu and Putin, ranked first by a wide margin with 19%. Bill O'Reilly, who is not a foreign head of state, also garnered 1% of the vote. The sample size was 805. Congratulations to Netanyahu and Putin.

    • Gary Ginsberg, a top exec at Time Warner, has contributed to Netanyahu’s speeches and signature moments in the past, in violation of journalistic ethics. We wonder if he did so today.

      Wile E. Coyote didn't speak either.

    • `I don't think--'
      `Then you shouldn't talk,' said the Hatter.

  • As Palestine's flag is raised at U.N., Abbas dumps Oslo security obligations
    • These symbolic acts are actually counterproductive.

      Almost 50 years ago the Republic of Transkei declared its independence and raised its flag. Alas, that too proved counterproductive.

    • Israel was subject to much less international criticism when it was controlling all of the West Bank than it is now.

      Israel was subject to much less international criticism when the camera was not yet ubiquitous.

    • L.A. Times reports that Abbas added, “We cannot continue to be bound by these signed agreements with Israel, and Israel must assume fully all its responsibility as an occupying power”.

      If Abbas continues to allow the IDF unfettered entry into Palestinian cities to make "arrests" at night we will quickly know that his words are empty.

  • Palestinian solidarity movement will 'grow and grow and... be impossible to stop' -- Slaughter to Clinton in 2011
  • Saudi-led coalition bombs Yemen wedding with US weapons, killing 131 civilians
    • The Saudi FM has implicated the U.S. in the attack.

      After Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen hit a wedding party on Monday and killed more than 130 civilians, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister is addressing critics who are questioning the effectiveness of the strikes.

      "We are very careful in picking targets. We have very precise weapons," Adel al-Jubeir told CBS News' Norah O'Donnell. "We work with our allies including the United States on these targets."

      link to

    • The human rights abuses of KSA and Israel deserve special attention from Americans because these two regimes are U.S. allies who enjoy the diplomatic and moral support of our government. Libya, China, Syria, and Cuba do not.

    • Page: 13
    • Does Mr. Toner even read the newspaper?

      QUESTION: Yesterday, Saudi Arabia was named to head the Human Rights Council, and today I think they announced they are about to behead a 21-year-old Shia activist named Muhammed al-Nimr. Are you aware of that?

      MR TONER: I’m not aware of the trial that you – or the verdict – death sentence.

      QUESTION: Well, apparently, he was arrested when was 17-years-old and kept in juvenile detention, then moved on. And now, he’s been scheduled to be executed.

      MR TONER: Right. I mean, we’ve talked about our concerns about some of the capital punishment cases in Saudi Arabia in our Human Rights Report, but I don’t have any more to add to it.
      QUESTION: Would you welcome as a – would you welcome a decision to commute the sentence of this young man?

      MR TONER: Again, I’m not aware of the case, so it’s hard for me to comment on it other than that we believe that any kind of verdict like that should come at the end of a legal process that is just and in accordance with international legal standards.

  • Who running for president is not 'friends' with Benjamin Netanyahu?
  • The anti-semitism charge is the canard
  • Celebrating Eid al-Adha in Gaza
    • Children are the ones who seem to be the most excited with this holiday, as they enjoy a considerable break from school.

      During lunch break I stopped at Lebanese bakery in Dearborn as I frequently do and was at first puzzled by the presence of so many the children dining with their families. Then I remembered hearing about Eid. The children were all colorfully dressed and began a game of hide-and-seek inside the bakery, even hiding behind me. I lingered before heading back to the office.

  • Wanted: The killer of Hadeel al-Hashlamoun
    • Huckabee is an ardent supporter of the Temple Institute. If the leader of the Temple Institute is suggesting that Obama be accordingly punished for what he considers capital crimes, then what does that make Huckabee?

  • Mental health in Gaza: a subterranean malaise
    • My apologies for double posting this: Today Sep 26, 2015 at 2:45 pm EDT, C-SPAN 2 will re-broadcast the Aug 13 taping of a book discussion of Max Blumenthal’s The 51 Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza. The broadcast was originally aired Aug 31. The complete 109 minute program can also be seen on the C-SPAN web site.

  • 'NYT' piece on stonethrowing leaves out 'occupation'
    • O/T: Today Sep 26, 2015 at 2:45 pm EDT, C-SPAN 2 will re-broadcast the Aug 13 taping of a book discussion of Max Blumenthal's The 51 Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza. The broadcast was originally aired Aug 31. The complete 109 minute program can also be seen on the C-SPAN web site.

  • Israel approves sniper fire and 4 year mandatory prison sentences against stone throwers
    • it is rather galling to see someone whose job (and probably a well-paid job) is to not know anything about anything.

      RoHa, indeed. Many days I feel like offering to pay for a newspaper subscription for Mr. Toner.

    • Mr. Toner as clueless as ever:

      QUESTION: And then lastly, there are some calls in the Israeli Government to – for their – I guess I don’t know what you’d call them. Rules of engagement? I don’t know. How to deal with – how police deal with stone-throwers, with some calls for the police to be able to use live fire. One, are you aware of this? And two, if you are, have you said anything to the Israelis about it? Do you have any opinion one way or the other or is this a strictly internal matter for them to deal with?

      MR TONER: I mean, obviously, it’s up to the Israeli Government to make decisions about its security and its – but as we often say in these cases, we would ask all parties or all sides to show restraint. That said, I don’t know that we’ve conveyed that directly to the Israeli Government. I just don’t have that information.

      QUESTION: Okay, can you find out?

      MR TONER: Sure.

      QUESTION: And also if the specific – if your call for all sides to be showing restraint, would that include you calling for the Israelis not to use live fire against people, some of them – who often are teenagers throwing stones?

      MR TONER: Okay.

      QUESTION: Thanks.

  • Syrian and Palestinian refugees can be helped by better representation on TV and in film
    • That’s only true from an American perspective, where day to day contact with Arabs in general and Arab muslims in particular is very sparse.

      Here in Dearborn Michigan we experienced an enormous influx of Arab muslim refugees in the wake of the Iraq war. The violent crime rate dropped dramatically. In 2001-2003 the violent crime rate in Dearborn was more than twice the national average. But with the influx of refugees, the violent crime rate dropped below the national average and has remained there [source]. Also the number of registered sex offenders compared to the number of residents in Dearborn is a lot smaller than the Michigan average.

  • Settlers gawk as Palestinian woman lies dying at checkpoint (Update)
    • Telegraph: "Activists deny Palestinian woman shot dead by Israeli army attacked with knife" link to

      AP: "Palestinian Witness Disputes Israel Account of Woman's Death" link to

    • From yesterday's press briefing at State:

      QUESTION: Okay. Can I ask a couple questions on the Palestinian-Israeli issue?

      MR TONER: Sure.

      QUESTION: Tensions are rising. The Israelis, today, killed a woman under the pretext she was wielding a knife, but apparently there was no knife. There was a lot of videos that showed otherwise and so on. They also closed all doors and they closed the West Bank and Gaza completely because of Yom Kippur. Do you have any comments on that?

      MR TONER: I’m not aware – you referred to the video; I’m not aware of that, I haven’t seen that report so I can’t really speak to that particular incident. But obviously, we remain, Said, deeply concerned by the ongoing violence and the escalating tensions, as you just said, surrounding – certainly surrounding Temple Mount, or Haram al-Sharif. We obviously condemn all acts of violence. We want to see tensions reduced. We want to see both sides – all sides, frankly – exercise restraint, refrain from provocative actions and rhetoric, and preserve unchanged the historic status quo.

      QUESTION: Does that include – the non-changing of the status quo, does that include the names of the streets? Because the Israelis today gave Hebrew names to all the Arabic names in East Jerusalem. Do you have – are you aware of that or do you have any comment on that?

      MR TONER: I’m not aware of that. I’d have to look into that.

      QUESTION: But that would also be included in the non-change, right?

      MR TONER: Again, that’s where we’ve stood on this policy-wise. I don’t know about specific name-changing that you mention, so I’d have to look into that.

  • The Obama administration needs to own up to the quagmire in Syria
    • Netanyahu must be miffed that he now won't be able to send bombers over Syria to attack Iran. He'll have to send them over Jordan, which will greatly embarass King PlayStation and Queen YouTube.

  • Everyone's kicking AIPAC now that it's down
    • Grant--Thanks for your hard work.

      Now that Holder is gone, this may be an opportunity to renew your complaint with the DoJ that charges that the 501(c)(3) American Israel Education Foundation is a “sham” charitable organization of AIPAC.

  • Bernie Sanders is 'radical' on economic policy but a pussycat for Israel
    • In 2006 Chafee told John Bolton that one of the root causes of our problems in the Middle East, rather than "terrorism" as Bolton believed, is our failure to make progress on a "viable, contiguous Palestinian state existing peacefully, side-by-side next to Israel." link to

      Some have argued that Chafee, rather than Sanders or Rand Paul, is Ron Paul's foreign policy heir. link to

    • Lincoln Chafee is being interviewed on C-SPAN. When asked what the number one priority of the new president should be he responded endless wars. He said the country faces many domestic problems but the president needs to focus on ending these conflicts and bringing our resources home.

    • I/P will certainly become an issue in the general election. Republicans recognize it as a classic wedge issue: one party is unified in supporting a position while the other party, or at least the rank and file, is divided. In the Democratic nomination contest the candidates will safely try to say as little as possible about the issue to avoid alienating any supporters. But then in the general election the GOP nominee will mention Israel every day, and if history is any indication, the Democratic nominee will try to prove he or she supports Israel even more than the GOP candidate.

  • Nostalgia
    • Former candidate Pat Robertson speaks in tongues too. Davis probably does too since she is Pentacostalist. I doubt Huckabee does because he is Southern Baptist.

    • It looks like Oral Roberts University alumna Michele Bachmann isn't running this time. Oral Roberts places a “particular emphasis on the Spirit-given ability to speak in tongues.” True confession: When I was in high school I appeared on TV in the near-stage audience of the weekly Oral Roberts broadcast. Yes, they do speak in tongues.

    • Jim Webb is the only Democratic hopeful who has expressed misgivings ("a lot of concern") about the Iran deal. The other prominent hopefuls--Clinton, Biden, Sanders, O'Malley and Chafee--all have expressed support.

    • Michael Schwerner organized a boycott of a local retailer that only hired white applicants. I wonder if Waldman thinks the boycott is a legitimate tactic in the pursuit of rights.

    • Paul Waldman did defend John Kerry for his statement last year that in the absence of a two-state solution "a unitary state winds up either being an apartheid state with second-class citizens or it ends up being a state that destroys the capacity of Israel to be a Jewish state.” Waldman wrote

      The first thing to understand about this statement is that everything in it is completely true. You have, right now, Israel presiding over a population of Palestinians in the West Bank who lack political and human rights. They are under Israeli rule, but are not Israeli citizens.

      Where Waldman erred in the column was to say, "It’s perfectly legitimate to argue that the current situation in Israel is not comparable to apartheid in South Africa." Of course, Waldman is incorrect. Apartheid west of the River Jordan is both past and present. Israel will not become an apartheid state when the Palestinian population reaches 51%. Regardless of the exact mix, Israel already is an aparthied state. The crime of apartheid does not depend on demographics or analogies with South Africa.

  • Netanyahu 'declares war' on stone throwers
    • Iceland’s capital bans all Israeli products.

      Interesting. Norman "BDS is a cult" Finkelstein shared the Iceland Magazine news article "Reykjavík City will boycott Israeli products" with the status "Iceland's capital city taking a stand..."

    • Thanks, Kate.

      One story not being reported in the press is H.Res.293 - Expressing concern over anti-Israel and anti-Semitic incitement within the Palestinian Authority which is being marked up in subcommittee this afternoon--no C-SPAN coverage. The bill would require the State Department to "regularly monitor and publish information on all official incitement by the Palestinian Authority against Jews and the State of Israel." It does not mention, of course, official incitement by the State of Israel against Palestinians.

  • Coulter's point is that Republicans pander on Israel to win donors, not voters
    • Buchanan is indeed a critic of Israel.. But so is David Duke. I loathe him too.

    • I strongly suspect all of the staff snd most of commenters on Mondoweiss loathe both Coulter and Buchanan. I certainly do.

    • Thanks for the link, pabelmont. Stephen Lendman criticizes Sanders for saying nothing during his Liberty University speech about decades of Israeli persecution of Palestinians. But Sanders rarely speaks of the I/P conflict unless pressed to do so. Like Elizabeth Warren he's almost completely focused on domestic economic issues. I thought it refreshing that Sanders did not use the speech at this extremely Zionist university to bring up Israel. He must have known that Ted Cruz received his loudest cheers during his own LU speech earlier this summer by mentioning Israel. Sanders passed up that opportunity. (Please don't interpret this paragraph as an endorsement of Sanders. I haven't ruled out supporting Chafee, O'Malley or Stein.)

  • 'New Yorker' says anti-Zionism is 'firmly rooted' in British left, and it's anti-Semitic
    • @Donald, I actually think she is the best writer Salon has.

    • @annie. A few of Dan Abrams' most recent pieces at Mediaite are

      --​Even Israel Condemns ‘Jewish Terror,’ Yet Obama Admin Still Can’t ​Do Same for ‘Islamic Terror​’
      --Conservative Blogs Explode over ‘Report’ Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Planes
      --Thousands of Homes Now Being Razed on Gaza Strip Border, So Where’s International Media Outrage? ["Well, because its Egypt and not Israel taking the action."]

      He is always good for a laugh and to show what the firsters are thinking.

    • ...a good liberal like Digby who ought to know better says boycotting Israel is a fringe issue.

      Let me get this straight. A regularly contributing writer to Salon, where the most read article this week is “'I have never turned heads': What it’s like when you’re not the object of desire," is complaining that the NYT published what she called "nonsensical drivel"?

  • Campus is seen as next battleground against Iran Deal -- by 'rightwing fanatics'
    • @Citizen. Unfortunately the display of Israeli flags is quite common in U.S. evangelical churches--much to the dismay of Christian Palestinian-Americans.

  • Iran Deal's liberation: Judaism is not Zionism
    • It's hard not to share your pessimism, Boomer. And just think what would happen if John Brown were a Palestinian advocate today.

  • 'NYT' openly counts Jewish politicians, and Obama and Clinton both reach out to Netanyahu
  • Health Advisory: Notes from a sandstorm
    • @Kay24--Ya'alon's statement came up at the State Dept briefing today (and the response was predictably mere rhetoric):

      QUESTION: A follow-up on the Palestinian issue?

      MR KIRBY: Sure.

      QUESTION: Okay. Now, all along since the 31 of July when the burning of the Dawabsheh family home, you indicated that you expect the Israelis to apprehend the perpetrators. Yesterday Israeli authorities said that they know who the perpetrators are, and in fact, the defense minister, Moshe Yaalon, said yes, we know who they are, but we are not going to bring them to trial because that will compromise our intelligence sources. Do you have any comment on that?

      MR KIRBY: We’ve seen those reports and again urge Israeli authorities to apprehend the perpetrators of the attack and to bring them to justice. We condemned in the strongest possible terms this vicious terrorist attack. We convey again our profound condolences to the Dawabsheh family and extend our prayers for the recovery --

      QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

      MR KIRBY: I’m sorry? The recovery of Ahmed after the death of his mother on the eve of her 27th birthday. We urge all sides to maintain calm and avoid escalating tensions in the wake of this tragic accident – incident.

      QUESTION: So you find that the comments by the Israeli defense minister unacceptable – or the justification?

      MR KIRBY: I’ve stated our reaction.

  • Update: UK petition calling for Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes reaches 100,000 signatures
    • Jackdaw: "@Hostage Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah."

      @Obsidian. Still sore from getting banned at Hostage's suggestion?

  • Debacle for the Israel lobby: Booker jilts Boteach, and Netanyahu sinks AIPAC
    • It was actually Maddow's producer, Steve Benen, writing on MaddowBlog on Thursday:

      There are only seven Democrats remaining who have not yet announced their position: Michael Bennet (Colo.), Richard Blumenthal (Conn.), Maria Cantwell (Wash.), Ben Cardin (Md.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Gary Peters (Mich.), and Ron Wyden (Ore.). How many are prepared to partner with the far-right, even knowing the proposal is doomed? Watch this space.

      At the risk of making this needlessly complicated, there is just one additional angle I want to put on readers’ radar: some Dems who support the deal may not support a filibuster. Manchin, in particular, appears to fall into this camp.

      I mention this because it’s not, strictly speaking, a matter of counting heads. It’s possible, if not likely, that there will be at least 41 Senate Democrats supporting the policy, but that doesn’t necessarily mean there will be 41 votes for blocking the bill. How they vote on the process and legislative procedures matters.

    • Rachel Maddow noted that Joe Manchin supports the Iran deal but not the filibuster. So we may need 42 at least.

  • National Public Radio annexes West Bank to Israel
  • 'Turning point' -- Obama defeats Netanyahu and 'destroyers of hope' on Iran Deal!
  • Obama and the Zionists
    • Incidently, in the latest Clinton email dump, one of the emails was to Mikulski: "Now, let's wrap this up in the Senate and go drink something unhealthy! All your AIPAC friends told me you're doing well so take care and keep going — w the wind at you back and my fervent cheers — Hillary."

      I think Mikulski will be needing some new friends now.

    • AP is reporting that Sen Mikulski is supporting the deal, giving Obama 34 votes in the Senate.

    • Excellent, Citizen. The Clinton email trove is wonderful.

  • Why the mainstream media is still ignoring Max Blumenthal's excellent book on Gaza
    • Here is another nugget coming out of the email dump. In 2010 Sidney Blumenthal offered Clinton advice on her upcoming AIPAC speech. Blumenthal argued that she should praise AIPAC but also mention J Street: "AIPAC itself has become an organ of the Israeli right, specifically Likud. By acknowledging J Street you give them legitimacy, credibility and create room within the American Jewish community for debate supportive of the administration's pursuit of the peace process. Just by mentioning J Street in passing, AIPAC becomes a point on the spectrum, not the controller of the spectrum."

      It appears that Clinton ignored Blumenthal's advice. I cannot find any mention of J Street in the transcript of her talk.

    • Daily Caller: "Emails show Blumenthal pushed son's anti-Israel activism on Hillary" link to

    • I can remember in 2003 when Fox News, Toby Keith and pretty much the entire GOP was ready to crucify Natalie Maines when she said in London that the Dixie Chicks were "ashamed" President Bush "was from Texas".

    • PJMedia notes also that Sidney advised her on the Mavi Marmara incident.

      A number of the latest emails from 2010 center on the Gaza flotilla raid. Israeli commandos boarded the “Freedom Flotilla” to force the ships to port for inspection. A few dozen of the hundreds on board fought the commandos; 10 activists were killed and 10 of the Israeli commandos were wounded.

      In an email to Clinton that day — May 31, 2010 — Blumenthal called the incident “Bibi’s Entebbe in reverse.”

      “The father, Benzion Netanyahu; 100 years old, secretary to Jabotinsky, and denounced as too radical by Begin, adored his son Yoni, heroically killed at Entebbe. Benyamin has never measured up,” Blumenthal wrote. “Benzion has constantly criticized him in public for his deviations from the doctrine of Greater Israel. Bibi desperately seeks his father’s approbation and can never equal his dead brother. See Benzion’s most recent scathing undermining of his son Bibi and Bibi’s tearful tribute to his brother just last month.”

      “The raid on the ship to Gaza resembles the raid on Entebbe, except that there are no hostages, no guns, it’s not in Africa, and it’s a fiasco; otherwise, it’s Entebbe. (Then, there’s Ehud Barak reliving his youth as a raider killing Palestinians in Lebanon, a feat memorialized in Spielberg’s film, Munich. Ultimately, it didn’t work out well that time either. The film captures the moral quandaries, which appear to have escaped the participants.)”

      Blumenthal goes on to write, “The international press will inquire whether the Obama administration gave a wink or nod as the Bush administration did for the Lebanon and Gaza incursions. Be prepared.”

      “Further: Of course, the consequences for US foreign policy and national security are negative across the board: from the analogy of the North Korean ship sinking and the Chinese posture to support for Iranian sanctions, etc., etc. Did the Israelis not hear Petraeus’s testimony?”

      Blumenthal added that “of course, whatever the outcome of such a raid, one of the inevitable ones would be the death of the peace process, such as it is, on the very eve of Bibi’s scheduled visit to Obama, which would have been, under any circumstance, in light of the raid, profoundly humiliating for the president. Or are the Israelis bone stupid? I don’t think so.”

      Hillary forwarded the email 35 minutes later to Jake Sullivan, her deputy chief of staff at the State Department and director of policy planning. He is believed to be Clinton’s pick for national security advisor.

      “Fyi and itys,” Clinton tells Sullivan. The latter is Internet slang for “I told you so.”

      "I told you so."

    • Last night's Clinton email dump reveals Sidney Blumenthal was sending articles to her to read that were penned by Max. Israel Firsters are seething. link to

  • First national trade union in the US votes to endorse BDS
    • DUMA, occupied West Bank (Al Jazeera) 29 Aug — During the darkest hours of the night in the village of Duma, east of Nablus, Palestinian men stood guard at the edge of their village. They were waiting and watching for potential intruders.

      Duma came up at today's Daily Press Briefing. Al Quds Daily correspondent Said Arikat and clueless State Department spokesperson Mark Toner discuss:

      QUESTION: Are you aware that the Israelis raided a Palestinian refugee camp, Jenin, last night – the raid is still ongoing – using a tactical pressure cooker where they demolished three homes in pursuit of three Palestinian suspects? Are you aware of that?

      MR TONER: Said, I have to say I’m not.

      QUESTION: Okay.

      MR TONER: No. I’ll look into it.

      QUESTION: The – and the flip side of that, it’s been 31 days since Israeli terrorist settlers attacked the village of Duma, killing a Palestinian baby and his father and mother and so on.

      MR TONER: Yes, and his father, yeah. Mother, yeah.

      QUESTION: And at the time, you expressed confidence that Israel has the wherewithal to pursue the terrorist perpetrators and bring them to justice, yet we don’t see this kind of raiding of the settlement to bring the perpetrators to justice. Are you still satisfied that Israel is doing all it can to apprehend the terrorist suspects in the settlement?

      MR TONER: Well, again, we – and we spoke very clearly at the time and continue to condemn that kind of violence, that kind of activity, and call on for a full investigation and to bring the perpetrators to justice. Now, we know and we speak to this often that a full investigation takes time. The prime minister, the government was very clear in expressing their outrage about this violence and the need to address it, so let’s wait and let this process play out.

      QUESTION: The point being that when the Israelis express their outrage going into Jenin to apprehend someone, but we have not seen anything similar to that in the settlement where the settlers have suspected – are suspected to come from.

      MR TONER: You’re – I’m sorry. You’re talking – say you have not seen this expressed --

      QUESTION: No, I’m saying no, we have not. We have not seen anything.

      MR TONER: I just haven’t – I am not aware of the incidents.

      QUESTION: Are you in touch with the Israelis on these things? Are you coordinating with them? I mean, you have a great deal of law enforcement and security coordinations with them. Are you coordinating with them in fact operationally or otherwise to bring these suspects to justice?

      MR TONER: You’re talking about in the attacks in the Palestinian – yeah.

      QUESTION: Yes. Yeah, those suspected – right, yes.

      MR TONER: I don’t know if we’re actually cooperating with them on this case, but we have every confidence that they’re able to carry out this investigation.

      QUESTION: You are? So --

      MR TONER: Let’s let the process play out.

      QUESTION: So you have every confidence, then, that the Israelis can bring these perpetrators to justice?

      MR TONER: Yes.

  • U.S. is even more implicated in Israeli settlement project than we thought
    • Mark Toner is clueless. Alicia Silverstone could do a better job.

    • Here is an exchange yesterday between Al Quds Daily correspondent Said Arikat and State Department spokesperson Mark Toner:

      QUESTION: -- Palestinian-Israeli issue? There was a study issued by Oxford University and published in Haaretz yesterday that there are 60,000 American Jewish settlers in the West Bank. Do you have any comment on that?

      MR TONER: Sixty thousand?

      QUESTION: Sixty thousand American Jewish settlers in the West Bank.

      MR TONER: I don’t. I’m not aware of the study.

      QUESTION: I know because you guys – your position is --

      MR TONER: I just haven’t seen the study, frankly, so I don’t --

      QUESTION: -- you oppose the settlements, you oppose – you consider them to be illegal and so on. But there you go – you have 60,000 Americans. Do you have any leverage with these American citizens?

      MR TONER: Look, I mean, in terms of leverage – I mean, we through our embassy offer support for American citizens throughout the world. But what – we’re very clear on our policy on this issue, and I don’t know that we need to be any clearer.

      QUESTION: Many elements among these settlers are extremists, they carry guns, they enforce their own sort of rules and regulations on roads and hamlets and so on – Palestinian hamlets. Do you have any kind of program, perhaps, to rehabilitate these settlers, bring them back somehow, as as opposed to the settlements?

      MR TONER: No, I mean – and the other thing is we’ve also spoken about the uptick in violence, in extremist violence in Israel. And in fact, the government and the prime minister have also spoken about some of the recent attacks that we view as abhorrent. And we call on, frankly, all sides to stop this kind of violence.

      In terms of programs, I’m not aware of what you’re – specific programs aimed at Israeli American settlers, no.

      QUESTION: Since I – my last question on this issue.

      MR TONER: Yeah, sure.

      QUESTION: Should the United States or would the United States have some sort of a program – an incentive program – to sort of encourage settlers to perhaps dismantle these settlements?

      MR TONER: I mean, that’s really a question for the Israeli Government to look at. I mean, we’ve been very clear on how we feel about settlements.

      QUESTION: Not really because they maintain their U.S. citizenship.

      MR TONER: Well, we believe that settlements hinder getting any kind of talks back up and running and peace process going. We want to see positive actions on all sides.

    • From an AP report on November 5, 2012:

      JERUSALEM -- American expatriates in Israel are lining up strongly behind Republican candidate Mitt Romney, in contrast to their fellow Jews back in the U.S., according to a survey.
      While American Jews have long backed Democratic presidential candidates, American immigrants in the Jewish state are staunchly Republican. One recent survey estimated that more than four-fifths of expatriate voters here cast absentee ballots for Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
      Most Americans who immigrate to Israel are religious Jews who tend to hold socially conservative views typical of Republicans. Their backing for Romney also reflects a general trend in Israel, where Obama is widely viewed with suspicion.
      A survey by iVoteIsrael, a nonpartisan get-out-the-vote organization, found that 85 percent of American voters in Israel cast absentee ballots for Romney. The group polled 1,572 U.S. expatriates between Oct. 22 and 24, and said the survey had a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points.
      According to iVoteIsrael, there are almost 160,000 potential voters in Israel. The group estimates that half of them cast absentee ballots this year, up from 20,000 in 2008.
      In the United States, Obama won 78 percent of the Jewish vote in 2008, according to exit polls at the time.
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    • Mike Huckabee, who certainly must know that U.S. candidates for public office can only accept contributions from U.S. citizens, had a fundraising event last week in a West Bank settlement.

      According to Haaretz, Hirschhorn says "her findings disputed many of the widely held presumptions about this group, namely that these immigrants had been unsuccessful back home and came to Israel for lack of any other alternative, that they were very Orthodox and supported right-wing causes in America.

      But if Mike Huckabee does not represent "right-wing causes in America", then just how far to the right has our nation become?

    • Interesting, Phil. You state the 60,000 figure does not include the East Jerusalem settlers. I believe you're right. The Haaretz article does not clarify this but the Newsweek article does. If the 60 thousand represent 15% of the settlers, then there must be 400 thousand settlers. But the 400 thousand figure does not include East Jerusalem.

      The fact that even a liberal Zionist publication whose editors ostensibly support a two state solution can just ignore this point underscores how distant a two state solution is.

  • Videos: Brave Tamimi women of Nabi Saleh take down Israeli soldier assaulting injured child
    • Hey, are you listning up there???.ivri needs help.

      I suspect ivri is sound asleep by now, hopefully with a bottle of aspirin at his bedside.

    • And the really sad part is you have thousands of Palestinian sympathizers who are sharing the original Daily Mail article, "Read this!", but when their friends open the link they are now greeted with a "Pallywood" headline.

    • Thanks, annie. I posted the links on your McCollum post because I knew you were actively reading the comments. I often find breaking news articles on I/P that I don't have the opportunity to comment on or just seem off topic. Can you suggest a Mondoweiss email address that people can send breaking news links to for editorial review? Or is the twitter account better for that?

    • I am impatiently waiting for the next piece in the sequel: A courageous Palestinian teenager girl grabs a glass from a soldier who brags that he drinks the blood of a Palestinian baby

      I am sure you are not drinking blood, ivri, but it's probably time you put down your glass for the evening.

    • These photos are instantly iconic. Even the Wall Street Journal and the Telegraph can't resist publishing them.

    • The Daily Mail url is .../article-3214441/Remarkable-moment-young-girl-bites-Israeli-soldier-two-women-overpower-puts-Palestinian-boy-broken-arm-headlock-gunpoint-clashes-West-Bank.html

    • The original Daily Mail headline was "Extraordinary moment that desperate Palestinian women fought and BIT an Israeli soldier after he put boy with a broken arm in a headlock at gunpoint.” (I copied it verbatim.) But now it is some nonsense about Ahed being a "Pallywood" star. Appalling.

    • Having read the Daily Mail article within minutes after it was first posted, I can attest that the its substance and tone have changed considerably for the worse since then. Initially it was similar to the Palestian-sympathetic Mirror's version.

  • Minnesota Congresswoman demands accountability for Nakba Day killings
    • Amigo, I do not wish to know what her office does with your contribution if you happen to give one. :)

    • Edit: their place of residence does *not* matter.

    • I believe that U.S. elected officials and candidates can only accept donations from U.S. citizens, but their place of residence does matter. Last week Mike Huckabee went to a fundraising event in a West Bank settlement knowing that he would find plenty of U.S. citizens there.

    • Oh, I was looking at the Daily Mail link.

    • So the Mirror is on the left? Its article has been revised to smear Ahed as a "Pallywood" star. Appalling.

    • Which paper is left and which is right?

    • @Hostage. Thank you--as always--for weighing in. Can the State Department simply respond to McCollum that, while the two deaths are a criminal matter, they do not comprise a "gross violation of human rights"? No waiver needed?

    • i wonder who asked the question.

      It is the correspondent named Said, who generally asks questions about I/P. I assume he works for a Arabic-language publication near Israel. I have tried many times over the years to figure out who he is, but "Said" is the most google-confounding name I know. He tends to be more focused on I/P and more polite and deferential to the the spokesperson than Matt. But of course no one is less deferential than Matt.

    • In April 2006 the House International Relations Committee passed 36-2 H.R. 4681, the "Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006". McCollum was one of the two nays--she preferred the Senate's alternative version of the bill. When an AIPAC rep declared "Congresswoman McCollum’s support for terrorists will not be tolerated," McCollum wrote a letter to AIPAC ending with this:

      I am a supporter of a strong US–Israeli relationship and my voting record speaks for itself. This will not change. But until I receive a formal, written apology from your organization I must inform you that AIPAC representatives are not welcome in my offices or for meetings with my staff.

      I wonder if she ever received an apology.

    • If you search for "Ahed Tamimi", you can see just how fearless this girl is.

    • Thanks Jim and bintbiba--I was wondering if that was young Ahed, but she looks older than the last photos I had seen of her. Her mother hasn't aged, however. The Tamimi family has been covered quite a bit here at Mondoweiss. Ahed is fearless.

    • There are some dramatic photos coming out of a protest in the West Bank today:

      "Pictured: Terrified Palestinian boy's look of horror as desperate family try to free him from Israeli soldier " link to

      "Extraordinary moment that desperate Palestinian women fought and BIT an Israeli soldier after he put boy with a broken arm in a headlock at gunpoint" link to

    • McCollum's letter came up in yesterday's daily press briefing at the State Department, hosted by spokesman John Kirby:

      QUESTION: And let me ask you another question on Congresswoman Betty McCollough – McCollum of Minnesota. She sent a letter to the State Department last week asking that all shipments of arms be stopped to Israel until an investigation is completed in the killing of two Palestinian kids back on May 15th, 2014. The father of one of the children came and met with you guys a couple weeks ago. Do you have anything to share with us on that?

      MR KIRBY: No, I don’t.

      QUESTION: Could you please find out?

      MR KIRBY: I mean, I’ll --

      QUESTION: A letter --

      MR KIRBY: Well, if we’ve – if we received a letter from a member of Congress, we will, of course, reply and respond in the appropriate fashion, which is to say back to the member of Congress. And we don’t typically read those letters out publicly.

      But we’ve obviously expressed our concerns about this particular incident and made very clear where we stood on that kind of violence.

      QUESTION: Thank you.

      So the American people won't hear the department's response unless McCollum shares it.

  • 'A better relationship with Iran' is the deal's secret promise, but supporters can't say so
    • We can thank Regev for blessing the cultural boycott as a legitimate tactic.

    • lol, lysias. It has been 35 years since I had a year of German in college.

    • Die Besetzung sei moralisch falsch und stelle auch die Existenzgrundlagen Israels in Frage.


    • The West is apparently not allowed to have a better relationship with Iran. Israel is trying to get Merkel to have the Berlin State Opera cancel its upcoming Tehran Performance. Israeli Culture Minister Miri Regev, who also leads the government's anti-BDS efforts, wants the orchestra to boycott Iran. You can't make this stuff up.

  • 51 Christian faith leaders urge Congress to vote for Iran Deal
    • I see that leaders of almost all the large major mainline Protestant denominations have signed, but unfortunately I do not think the few evangelical leaders who signed represent significantly large or influential organizations. (The American Baptist Churches, whose General Secretary signed, are considered mainline.)

  • 'NYT' and Chris Matthews are frank about Jewish role in Iran Deal debate
    • See NY Daily News: "Sen. Robert Menendez may have had sex with underage hookers in Dominican Republic: prosecutors"

      link to

    • Kathleen, if Matthews was indeed opposed to the Iraq war I certainly couldn't tell the day after the Mission Accomplished speech when he and guest Ann Coulter were ready to put Bush on Mt Rushmore.

    • Palm Beach sure must be a fun town, lysias. Playboy Magazine ranks Miami among the top five 'Sexiest Cities' in the U.S. (Detroit ranks dead last because of weather and crime. But Playboy's hometown of Chicago also ranks in the top five. Go figure.)

    • He’s becoming a real profile in courage

      Perhaps Matthews has access to prescient weather forecasters when the other pundits are just trying to see which way the wind blows.

    • And if underage prostitutes are involved, Menendez can probably get Dershowitz to defend him pro bono.

    • Breaking News: "FBI Finds Democratic Senator’s Name in ‘Ledger of Prostitution’" [Menendez] link to link to

    • Senator Gary Peters, a Michigan freshman, remains mum, even after Representative Sander Levin of Michigan, the longest-serving Jewish House member, endorsed it

      Last fall, two campaign workers knocked on my front door and asked me to support Peters and Levin. I explained that I intended to vote for Levin but was hesitant about Peters. I told them that his web site's Israel section looked like it was written by AIPAC.

  • Videos: 'Vanity Fair' story about anti-Semitic pogrom in Paris is falling apart
    • anti-Muslim blogger Pamela Geller

      Geller's web site links to Marie Brenner's Vanity Fair article.

    • In Beyond Chutzpah Finkelstein wrote:

      Vanity Fair journalist Marie Brenner, adducing French opposition to the U.S. attack on Iraq as ultimate proof of a pervasive anti-Semitism--which clarifies what the hysteria about a new anti-Semitism is really about--reports that the French stubbornly disapproved "even when the citizens of Baghdad openly embraced American forces." Albeit only for a week, if that long.

      This week, in the satirical voice that he often uses on his blog, Finkelstein wrote:

      Vanity Fair Reports Nazi Takeover of France; Jews Brace for Second Holocaust; Netanyahu to Dispatch Commando Teams to Paris; Chuck Schumer Calls on Obama to Nuke…Norway

  • Beinart's fear of 'Israstine'
    • You must answer why it’s a good idea for the international community to create a state...

      I would be happy for either a just one state settlement or a just two state settlement. It's not for me to decide. The colonized Palestinian people have the right of self-determination and don't require the help of me or you or Beinart. If Israel wishes otherwise then they must simply vacate colonization.

  • Nadler says his vote against Iraq war caused some to question his 'commitment to Israel'
    • A courageous political act, indeed. You be sure that the NYT won't be reporting that he searched his soul.

      On a down note, Dem hopeful Jim Webb, who once was embraced by many anti-war Democrats including myself, must be searching his soul:

      Former Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia says it’s the wrong time for a deal on Iran’s nuclear program and that the situation of giving “tacit approval” for another country’s eventual acquisition of nuclear weapons is unprecedented.

      Mr. Webb, a 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, said he thinks the deal is something that “in detail” should have been put before Congress.

      He also knocked “an approach that is just focusing on a nuclear agreement when we have to look at the balance of power in the region and the signals that have been sent in the region in terms of Iran’s growing power.”

      “That’s the reason I opposed the invasion of Iraq, by the way. One of the reasons was that it was going to empower Iran, and now that they have been empowered, I just think it’s the wrong time for an agreement like this,” Mr. Webb said Thursday, speaking on CNN.

      “I think that the focus on this deal has simply been on a slowing down [of] the potential acquisition of nuclear weapons by Iran, and we’ve never been in [this] situation before where we have sort of given a tacit approval for the eventual acquisition of nuclear weapons by another country,” he said.

      link to

  • 'There is no Jewish terror': Conspiracy theory that Palestinians committed Duma firebombing spreads among Israelis
    • ZOA president Morton Klein said:

      It is inappropriate to rush to cast blame on Jews for the fire at an Arab home in Duma in last week in view of the minimal, contradictory, and questionable evidence reported thus far — and in view of the numerous instances in which Arabs have fabricated attacks or blamed Jews for Arab violence against other Arabs.
      Evidence however, raises strong suspicions that the fire last week was the continuation of an 18-year-old feud between two Arab clans in Duma.

      The conspiracy theory thrives on this side of the Atlantic too.

  • Churchill, Iran & 'Duck Dynasty': Mike Huckabee brings his presidential bid to the Israeli settlements
  • End of lockstep US Jewish support for Israel is a triumph not a tragedy
    • As an aside, I can only say that I don’t think that any of this would have happened if Netanyahu and his cabal had not won. With Herzog, it would have been back to the insufferable status quo.

      "Keep your head up, it has to get worse before it can get better."--anonymous

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