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rofl
So what do the documents insist?
Ben-Gurion was a pathetic liar.
Awesome news.
Nothing is going to change.
Zionist Jews continue to rob Palestinians and American Jews provide cover for this disgusting country and it's colonial project.
Worthless excerpt.
If you're not a Jewish tribalist then being pro-Israel is worthless to you.
This is advocacy 'tips' - balancing basic human decency with being a member of a ethno-religious nationalist cult (Zionism).
For normal people who do not think like 'is it good for the Jews (Zionists; since some Jews aren't really Jews if they are anti-Zionist)' - morals come first and foremost.
hoppie said:
"And complete “Judaization?” Have you forgotten that Israel within the 1967 borders is 20% Palestinian?"
So what? Palestinians in Israel are treated as second-class citizens even though they are the indigenous population that Jewish terrorists did not ethnically cleanse in 48'.
Israel is a Jewish State and a Jewish democracy (democracy for Jews). Palestinians have no agency in Israel. Only lip-service and tokenism.
And Israelis blow up Palestinians more often (10 times more children alone).
And Israelis occupy and colonize Palestinian land.
And Israelis carve the Star of David into Palestinian land.
And Israelis spray paint 'Gas the Arabs' on Palestinian homes.
The reason for this 'not a great situation' is Jewish colonialism - not Palestinian suicide bombing. Suicide bombing began in 1994 and ended several years ago.
But all throughout that time period - as well as before and after - Israelis are still killing Palestinian civilians.
Hence, it's not Palestinian behavior or agency - it's Israeli Jewish behavior and agency because that is where the power lies.
So we should profile Jews the same way that Jews profile Palestinians, Arabs in general, and Muslims.
Not to mention Jews deny Palestinian suffering or trivialize it or blame the victims themselves and say that Jewish blah blah is more important.
This is a tribal conflict and Zionist Jews have the power, so they can dictate the daily events of Palestinian life.
What does the article say? (Behind a paywall).
imo
i mean think about our own soldiers peeing on dead taliban (id say this was dishonorable and repulsive, but not 'Nazi'esque at all) or abu gharib (torture) and guantanamo (torture) and the Haditha killings and the gang-rape of that 14 yr old iraqi girl + the murder of her family
'Nazi' is basically a label attached to evil acts but I think the respective organizations (our army, or the israeli army) that are labelled as such, are 'bad enough' that simply referring to them as the IDF ('defense forces') in contempt drives the point home without resorting to Godwin's Law
although everyone, on every issue, ends up doing it
Scumbag IDF and settlers.
So just read that article.
It highlights the fact that AJ - Qatar based - has published articles by Massad that have been critical of Qatar.
But with the launch of AJ America, the article says, AJ executives/higher-ups are trying to become more 'American' ("cozying up to elites"). Apparently AJ execs met with Rahm Emmanuel.
Disgusting.
Wow!
What the hell.
Al Jazeera has changed a lot over the years. I remember reading awhile back that Haim Saban was investing in Al Jazeera.
That might be why.
Susan was right to decline the invitation to 'balance'. And she is absolutely right about how the Nakba is 'framed' by press. It's always 'should Israelis feel a bit perturbed by that pesky Palestinian tragedy'?
Always an afterthought and with a group of Israelis discussing things. And in America naturally, it's similar to other ME issues and we only have Jews talking about it or other 'White' Americans.
I was so surprised that HuffPo had a video discussion with some Palestinians (I think that's what it was at least).
Years ago Al Jazeera hosted a debate between Palestinian and Israeli teens. It was a good debate. One of the Israelis was an Israeli Arab (but Jewish I think? I dunno) and he was sympathetic to the Palestinian cause (or it felt that way).
He would describe his experiences in Israel and one Israeli Jewish girl interjected and tried to speak for him. He was upset that she kept interrupting to speak for him.
I think that's a perfect example of how this discussion is hijacked constantly and reframed through the POV of the oppressor.
On the other end of the spectrum, Zionists always refer to Palestinians in Israel proper, being treated so graciously and kindly (LOL). Even Zionists attempt to speak for Palestinians.
Not to mention these same Zionists divert attention away from Zionist crimes to dead Arabs elsewhere, ie Syria, Libya, Iraq, blah blah.
The one commonality is clearly the cynicism and depravity of these Zionists and their sociopathy towards Palestinian life. Whether it's mocking Palestinian suffering or denying it's existence by changing the subject nonsensically to Darfur or Sudan or BLAH BLAH BLAH.
We think of Holocaust Deniers as a unique species of haters. But the same intellectual framework is seen EVERYWHERE in many different issues and conflicts and Zionists who mock/deny/divert the Nakba are no different than Holocaust deniers.
6 million people do not need to die for someone to then come around and start denying that those people died or justifying their deaths or minimizing/trivializing or diverting attention away.
And so often Zionists use the Holocaust to (reverse minimizing) to trivialize suffering elsewhere (these same type of Zionists also promote Israel as being an oasis for refugees because of the 'lessons' of the Holocaust).
You're probably right (I don't know, myself) - but I really just mean perceptions here in America.
And even that might not be fair. I guess I'm talking about how people of my generation (+/- 1) would look at the conflict from afar (ie., superficially).
Do we have any sense of the zeitgeist of the anti-apartheid movement here in the States? Was it bleeding-heart or nuanced? Or in between or none of the above?
Different political capital.
Amorphous blob of 'Whiteness' with no tribal identity vs. Jewish identity with its mountain of political capital and victimhood/superhero dichotomous persona perpetuated by our political/popular culture.
White = bad; Walmart scooters, funny dancing, slavery, Christian fundamentalism but also pervasive Christian culture (as noble, self-sacrificing, love, etc.), White Man's Burden, etc.
Jews = Holocaust, pogroms, Judeo-Christian values, antisemitism, achievement, etc.
And right-wing Jews who think they're reasonable left-wing/liberals.
link to jewishtribune.ca
So Patinkin signed a petition or statement in support of actors who were boycotting performing in Ariel or something.
He basically respects the right to protest and not be demonized. He himself has said he does not support an economic boycott of Israel.
I don't think he's elaborated beyond these few quotes though. I'd like to know what he thinks about Brand Israel and normalisation.
The reaction to Patinkin by the right-wing Jewish community is basically to intimidate him and cause him to retract his already very tepid remarks.
I think this is the main tactic of the Israel Lobby. They (organizations like the ADL for example, or individuals like The Dersh) have to keep up the framing of this conflict and make sure no one pushes the narrative away from what they regard as 'normal'.
Any cracks are viewed as threats and all are handled in this exact histrionic manner. It doesn't matter what the details are because they (again, individuals and organizations) view these 'cracks' as potential seeds for change. Opinion matters and they police opinion by intimidation and slander.
Does Patinkin support a partial boycott of Israel?
There's no one on Earth and in all of history that Zionists won't cannibalize for Greater Israel.
Good article.
The hasbarists in the comments section predictably dismiss or ignore the article's findings.
Palestinians have been practicing non-violent resistance for a long time and most Israelis clearly don't care.
Palestinian non-violent resistance will continue and most Israelis will still not care.
Your exaggeration would imply that there was a time when the Israeli public was sympathetic to Billi'n - but it never had been.
Israelis have peace and quiet and have no reason to end the conflict. The fault lies where the power lies and that is with Israeli Jewish and American Jewish agency and Zionism.
People who blow up apartment complexes with aerial bombardment or refugee camps or snipe children or use white phosphorus in one of the most densely populated areas on Earth and carry out a 50+ year long military occupation, colonization, and apartheid are not democracies.
They are ethno-religious tyrannies.
Sic semper tyrannis.
If it's CNN and if it's TV and if it's Israel, it's going to be Zionist.
At the very 'best' - it will be Zionist with a glance at Ramallah or something and nothing to do w/ the occupation (let alone, colonialism, apartheid, cultural appropriation/theft/imperialism).
Whats the proof?
Israel kills innocent civilians all the time and more often than Baruch Goldstein or Yahya Ayyash.
Anyways, I'm not talking about terrorism. I'm talking about legitimate resistance to occupation, colonialism and apartheid.
Palestinians have the right to use violence against the IDF and the Israeli government. Every day that Israel perpetuates the occupation/colonization/apartheid is violence against the Palestinians (torture, detention, kidnappings in the middle of the night for no reason, settler violence, constant 'collateral damage', trumped up charges against non-violent activists, ethnic cleansing, land theft, water theft, etc. etc.).
Israel only exists because it subdues a civilian population, the indigenous population, with violence. Pervasive and institutionalized violence.
You are a racist Jewish colonist so starting the timeline of events when Israel is attacked (as if these actions occur for no other reason than arbitrary Jew-hatred), is typical. Hence your straw-man about terrorism as if that is what I'm talking about.
From your logic, no one under occupation or colonialism should resist their occupiers and colonizers.
They should wait until a solution magically appears, since you also oppose the BDS tactic. Zionist Jews push the meme of 'getting back to the negotiation table' whilst they advocate Israel's unique right to violence (because when Palestinians use violence it's always terrorism and hypothetically terrorism).
How about this simple question jon s, do you believe Palestinians have the right to use violence against the IDF and armed settlers? Or would the Palestinians be justified in fighting those two groups?
Or is all violence illegitimate unless it's the Jewish State utilizing it?
Does Phil know who this anonymous author is? Not asking who, but whether the editors know.
She reeks of 'Draw Muhammed Day'/FEMEN 'liberal' interventionism.
@miriam
Yes, blowback is very real.
Israeli terror victims are still terror victims, but it's not as if terrorism occurs in a vacuum.
Israel still kills more civilians than all the Palestinian terrorists.
NOT ONCE have you Zionist trolls made arguments that take that into account. Nor have you or the other troll, jon s, taking into account the on-going occupation, colonization and apartheid.
Both of you are against BDS and only supportive of worthless and VAGUE (intentionally) Zionist memes like 'getting back to the table' (without preconditions, without a meaningful permanent settlement freeze, etc. etc. etc.)
Palestinian terrorism is not evil incarnate, no matter what the gory details are - while simultaneously those gory details are indeed evil.
Palestinian terrorism is the reaction to Jewish nationalism and colonialism. That is a FACT.
And recognizing that fact does not mean we regard terrorists as freedom fighters.
It simply means you are the bigger evil and your colonial project started this conflict AND perpetuates it - which in-turn breeds terrorism.
Ditto for 9/11 (not Pearl Harbor, dunno why you included that idiotic analogy).
We know the PFLP committed terrorism.
The point is whether Kanafani had something to do with the Lod Airport massacre.
Decent people?
Who are these decent people?
Zionist Jews and their supporters, who think a 50+ year long military occupation, colonialism, apartheid and disproportionate violence against a hostage civilian population is 'counter-terrorism'.
Violence is legitimate against tyrannies and Israel is pure tyranny. Tyranny that is draped in lies.
Wondering Jew said:
"Kanafani, a member of the upper echelons of PFLP was pictured in the newspaper soon after the massacre standing next to one of the Japanese “terrorists”."
Did Kanafani have something to do with that attack or the Munich massacre?
Didn't Chomsky visit Hezbollah members after the 2nd Lebanon War? Ditto for Finkelstein.
I wonder if Israelis or American Jews who cheer on terrorists/freedom fighters should be fair game as well. Certainly we have that case here with American Jewish intellectuals (and non-Jews alike) cheer-leading the Syrian rebels. And simultaneously they are to the right of the settlers on Israel/Palestine and Hamas.
Good post Taxi.
One thing though, sometimes writers abruptly end a piece like this to emphasize the body of the article.
Kind of like demonstrating the tragedy of someone's passing. How it was literally cut short (by not going into the details of how). It's a contrast between the part of the article about the guy's life and the sentence about his death.
Not saying that's what the author of this article is doing, but I interpreted it that way.
Worthless quotes that do nothing to undermine the fact that Jewish terrorists stole Palestinian land and drove out the indigenous population.
In fact, those quotes are simply a natural reaction to a group of immigrants - a minority - attempting to carve up land out from underneath the majority indigenous population.
No Palestinian majority accepted the Partition. Israel declared itself unilaterally. The Jewish side of the Partition had almost 50 50 Jews and Arabs. Why would the Arabs want to see their land divided towards the minority living among them antagonistically from the very beginning?
This exotic villainy you paint is the usual Islamophobic garbage that makes it seem as if there is a cartoony conspiracy to destroy Israel for the sake of destroying Israel.
The Palestinians had as natural a reaction to Zionism as any other indigenous population would to settler-colonialism in their midst, threatening their existence.
And anyways, Jewish terrorists began ethnically cleansing Palestine before the Arab armies came to war. Months before.
@nut
Israel has no moral justification nor right to be in the OT, stealing Palestinian land and resources.
The bureaucracy (context; as in how you and people like you interpret law to favor your crimes) that you worship (when it favors you) is besides the point. Israel can colonize Palestinian land because it simply 'can' (power).
What you and other pro-apartheid activists/colonists are saying is that any group of people that have been living on their land for thousands of years aren't really people and aren't really residents of said land. They are temporary until Jewish colonists come over and kick them out by force.
Oh a Zionist lying about Israel being singled out? It must be Tuesday.
Mondoweiss discusses Syria and Afghanistan even though Mondoweiss is specifically an Israel/Palestine blog.
Mondoweiss is not obligated to cover anything else but the subject of the blog.
So what, you hold the same (if not far more extreme and racist) views as Dershowitz.
Not to mention you're a settler.
Why would that be the qualification, Obsidian/proudzionist?
Jews had to wear the yellow star. It was not tattooed on them.
Speaking of Jews and Palestinians, here's a recent quote from Israel's deputy defense minister Matan Vilnai that Obsidian/proudzionist's sock puppet account isn't likely to publish.
Israeli minister warns of Holocaust for Gaza if violence continues
link to guardian.co.uk
Anyone who characterizes MW as that is a Zionist troll.
They have their own narrow standards for what is acceptabel political discourse and everything outside of it is 'antisemitic'.
This makes them unique because antisemitism as they apply it, is used purely as a political and rhetorical intimidation and slander.
They aren't applying it in a sociological sense (i.e., honestly) - it's just a tar and feather tactic to demean someone's views even if those views do not explicitly follow the loose definition of 'antisemitism'.
It's precisely why Zionist trolls seek to redefine antisemitism to encompass criticism of Israel and Zionism and setting up goal posts that would more or less force us all to be Zionist.
They are tin-foil hat nutters and when they actually say what they want to say in-person they end up sounding like psychopaths.
Exhibit A: Wondering Jew/yonah f-something @the Brooklyn BDS lecture.
You're equating Islamophobia (Maher, Harris, et. al.) to Greenwald?
Harris believes all Muslims are potential terrorists.
Why don't you accept similar blanket statements regarding Jews? Why don't you apply the same intellectual framework Harris applies (complete with equivalent but opposite fawning over Alan Dershowitz and Israel) to Jewish identity and world Jewry?
Glenn's articles are thoroughly researched and substantiated.
So why don't you propose a counter-argument to something Greenwald has said rather than simply lumping him together with his political opponents (to make yourself appear 'neutral' or 'fair', i.e. 'everyone is equally guilty/equally wrong/equally right').
What a lazy, liberal Zionist thing to say.
Glenn is amazing as always.
This article is fantastic. Thank you Cecile.
Hasbarists will have a hard time spinning this. I've seen the trolls spin the ADL as 'simply' a anti-discrimination group.
Willful ignorance is a Zionist's forte. Shoving that ignorance down non-Jews throats is their agenda.
Chomsky rocks. Good on him for writing to Hawking.
Totally agree Toivo.
But I think they aren't beyond criticism. Especially Finkelstein. He should be able to take it, since he dishes it out.
Chomsky is much more antiseptic and he's done so much for so many different resistance movements/solidarity movements/peace movements. In the US and abroad.
Why is an Israeli Zionist Jew concerned more about Guantanamo Bay than the atrocities, occupation, apartheid committed by your own government?
Oh that's right, DIVERSION.
We are Americans and we do not support Guantanamo Bay.
Bringing up this online petition in a thread about thanking Hawking for boycotting your apartheid country is a non-sequitar and straw-man.
We can say thank you to Hawking and sign the petition to close Guantanamo.
These issues aren't mutually exclusive.
Ditto for Sudan, Darfur, Libya, Syria, blah blah blah.
But this is a Israel-Palestine blog and naturally a Zionist troll will come HERE to talk about SOMETHING ELSE.
LOL
There's nothing disingenuous about what Hawking did. You don't know him personally and you don't know who he regards as his friends and what they may have said to him to compel him to withdraw.
He decided to boycott your racist, apartheid, colonial State and you're having a hissy fit.
No different from all the other colonists going nutso because Hawking didn't bow down before the altar of Zionism.
I've admired Siegman for a long time. I recall he wrote a good article in NYRB i think? Maybe. Around 2006.
He totally nails it here:
"[T]he American public has bought a particular narrative of the situation, which is totally dishonest and completely misrepresents the obvious facts. I mean, what could be more obvious that you cannot have a peace process even as you systematically steal the territory underneath the ground that the Palestinians are standing on and living on and discussing in terms of statehood? A six-year-old would understand that you can’t be serious if that’s what you’re doing....."
You're shocked of what? The Internet? People in general?
The Guardian doesn't exist in an Internet Vaccuum where only amorphous blobs of 'The Guardian' vote for polls/surveys conducted by, drumroll, 'The Guardian'.
Once again hoppie:
Different time periods. One is history. The other, Israel, is current events.
Zionist Jews can change the subject all they want, it won't stop people from caring.
We are not like you. We have empathy and do not judge the world based on whether X is 'good for the Jews'.
Blair and Clinton are real life trolls and the world doesn't revolve around Zionist Jewry and the US.
Without the US military or the UK military, neither of these celebrities matter.
But hoppie, you're an American apparently.
But a Zionist Jew first and foremost.
So you live on stolen Native American land and stolen Palestinian land.
Hence you're even more of a thief than the rest of us.
Not sure what your point is.
America's colonial project is over. Israel's colonial project is on-going.
We get it, you want people to do nothing. Not going to happen but you can whine til you're blue in the face about Darfur, Sudan, Manifest Destiny, blah blah blah.
Ain't going to change a thing because normal people (not ethno-religious tribalists and nationalists) do not think the way you do (narrow-minded, racist, cruel, etc.).
Hoppie
The destruction of the Native American majority is complete and over with and happened before any of us were born. Before our parents were born. Before their parents were born.
Meanwhile you and your fellow Jewish colonists are destroying Palestine and stealing and colonizing Palestinian land IN REAL TIME.
In the present.
There is no comparison between America and Israel.
Different time periods. One is history. The other, Israel, is current events.
Gawker covering the Hawking boycott!
link to gawker.com
The comments are supportive with the usual sprinkle of Zionist trolls using the same stale dishonest pre-made talking points.
LOL
Miriam is blowing her gasket too early.
She's not going to last on MW.
If you're a Zionist troll, you need to pace yourself here so you don't have a heart attack.
Wealthy elites are wealthy elites.
See French Algeria.
But thanks for the diversion.
A young pop star, 16 years old?, like Beiber could care less about being truly controversial (rethinking political culture of good vs. bad).
Who gives a **** if he plays for the apartheid Israeli State?
Ditto for a Zionist like Madonna.
And it's disgusting of you to bring up Hawking's ailments as some sort of genetic 'anti-Israel' disorder.
Then again, being a crazy Zionist, racist Jew, who lives in a bubble it's unsurprising.
Hasbara trolls probably sounded the Megaphone Zio alarm.
Nothing was debunked.
Hawking has criticized Israel before and there's reason enough to believe he supports BDS/cultural boycotts.
link to youtube.com
He is in poor health also and this is damage control by the university.
Poor hoppie, move along now.
Great news. Dr. Hawking is awesome.
LOL
Hawkings during Israel's slaughter in Gaza in 2008:
link to youtube.com
Hawking wasn't "brought" into the fray.
He made a choice. Just like people made a choice not to play/perform/speak/associate with South Africa during apartheid.
Unlike apartheid supporters like you, Mike_Konrad, Hawking has an independent mind (not tribalist, not cultist) and doesn't follow the mainstream hypocritical piety regarding Israel.
"Two Israels".
Colbert is amazing and totally gets it.
Are you sure wouldn't fellate him in a dark ally?
Yep.
Yiddish, not hebrew.
English, not hebrew.
LOL
No one cares about an fake outraged Zionist Jew, fake outraged at American atrocities.
Just like all the other conflicts you use to HIDE your own crimes and responsibility, 'Guantanamo Bay' is equivalent to Zionist non-sequiters like 'Darfur, Sudan, Libya, Syria, Congo' etc.
Not only do Zionist Jews like you disassociate Israel-Palestine from the world and from the human condition so that you can WHITEWASH your evil.
You also whitewash Palestinian suffering while Israelis suffer a FRACTION of what the Palestinians suffer - and that's just casualties.
No Israeli lives under military occupation. Israelis are the jailers and slave-masters.
It's disgusting that after 100 years of this bullshit, people like you are still fanatically ignorant.
Who do you think you're fooling? No one here buys your diversionary b.s.
Get new material, troll.
Theres more discrimination in Israel even though in one day, Islamic terrorists killed more Americans than Palestinian militants and terrorists have killed in over 10 years.
1000 dead Israelis. Meanwhile you kill 1000 + Palestinian children alone.
Oh poor Israeli soldiers!
Who will deport Israeli soldiers and Israeli settlers for making life difficult for Palestinians?
Hoppie please chime in on your American First advice. LOL
Awesome news.
It only sounds like a conspiracy theory by Zionist Jews and their supporters, because slandering things left and right as 'antisemitic' is easy, requires no evidence, etc.
The USA is an empire. There is no singular 'American' identity or homogenous in a strict (and only) sense.
im 28, i feel super old !
Great article. Thank you for doing those interviews Pam and all the other work/information/etc. you've contributed. I hope more Americans read your book and listen to what you have to say.
jon s is pathetically attempting to whitewash the history of Jewish terrorism during the Mandate and failing miserably.
Wondering Jew said:
"Natural Zionism as in natural to support fellow Jews elsewhere in the world"
What does that mean? Does BBYO support anti-Zionist Jews? post-Zionist?
What does it 'support'? How?
All Jews? Or just some Jews?
BBYO is a Zionist org.
Wondering Jew,
You are only concerned with the technical definition of 'chemical weapons' because of the moral resonance it has vis a vis the shock/disgust factor of using chemical weapons or witnessing chemical weapons.
White phosphorus may not be classified as such. Who cares? It's used for illumination and then it lands on civilians and burns them to death.
Israel used White phosphorus in the densely populated Gaza Strip.
What does that say about the Israeli government and army?
If you launch something into the air, it will eventually land. If what you're launching into the air has the capacity to destroy human life indiscriminately - but is not the text-book 'intention' of said device - why use it?
You sure do like to grasp at what little rhetorical points you can get, don't you?
Excellent post Stephen.
Joan Peters wrote lies and was called out on it.
If you have the same lies to tell, then tell them instead of alluding to them.
Why should they?
The Palestine Papers leak demonstrated already how unreasonable the Israelis are.
You're saying that all of Jerusalem should be Israel's?
All of Israel's demands are unreasonable. A greedy and powerful thief dictating to the victim what his demands are.
And being part of the greedy thief, you naturally see no problem with it.
@mondonut
You say:
Palestinians did not draw up this plan. Palestinian agency did not draw up this plan.
A very SMALL number of 'Arabs' with vested political interests did.
Foxman is really like any other Zionist today. His ADL is a Zionist organization FIRST and FOREMOST.
His statements here and in the past on issues like the Armenian genocide.
His associations with other far-right Zionist organizations, each with their own hate-mongering tactics, lies and propaganda, etc.
These things really cement the truth about the agenda of the ADL and people like him.
The biggest antisemites are Zionists who straw-man perfectly logical explanations about American politics as 'Jewish control'.
As if institutional pressures - all of them - boil down to antisemitism.
This is the same bullshit Chomsky had to contend with with his propaganda model.
Zionists are like Scientologists. Crazy cultists.
@Mike_Konrad
There are Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel.
And why should Jews of Israel be threatened by a boycott of settlement products and association?
Why do Jews get to colonize and war profiteer and get away with it whilst propagandists like you characterize this ethno-religious privilege of theirs as 'a fight for survival'?
You draw lines as between sympathy (arbitrary apparently) for 'Palestinian Arabs' - as if this is simply ethnocentrism on our part.
The issue is not 'Palestinian Arab' ethno-religious-nationalistic identity bias.
The issue is human rights abuses - decades and decades and decades ongoing - and anti-colonial/anti-imperial and pro-equality/pro-civil rights beliefs.
I think there's certainly a degree of Islamophobia. It reminds me of Mark Twain. He hated Indians but sympathized with African Americans.
I think we look at the colonized 'Other' differently than other groups of oppressed. We hold them in such contempt because our national existence DEPENDS on it.
We cannot sympathize with them (not lip service, not realpolitk statements, etc.) while stealing from them at the same time.
We have to hate them.
Slaves on the other hand are immediate and in front of us and with us in day to day life. They are also slaves. Different power dynamic.
We should factor the wars in the ME into the bigger picture here and the fact that Islamic terrorism outnumbers anti-abortion terrorism.
There's a reason for that: religious fanaticism, imperialism and colonialism, nationalism (both sides), economics, etc.
Its not as though Islamic terrorism is competing with some other terrorist threat here in the US and given unfair spotlight.
Anti-abortionists have used terror but they aren't as frequent as Islamic terrorists.
@mondonut
With enough time, that number of 73% native-born will increase.
Palestinians were native-born but were driven out by Zionist Jews.
Now Zionist Jews are 'native born'.
The RoR needs no contemptuous quotations by the way. It's an entirely legitimate desire for people driven out of their homeland.
And yes, I oppose discriminatory States. I don't want to see them 'eliminated' - I want them to be transformed.
Israel is different from those States because it rules over the indigenous population - both the Israeli Palestinians and the Palestinians of the OT.
Israel has maintained a Jewish majority only through discrimination and war.
It's not as if you convinced the Palestinians to get up and leave. You did it through force.
So whatever 'natural born' statistics you pull up is in that context.
A rejection of an ethnoreligious Jewish democracy that persecutes non-Jews?
Thats the definition of justice.
No State should discriminate against non-members of the privileged population.
Not to mention Palestinians aren't immigrants. Israel is only able to maintain a Jewish majority through war and destruction of the indigenous population.
Extremists in Tel Aviv - whoever they may be - should cause Ezra more alarm.
Tel Aviv gay centre shooting:
link to en.wikipedia.org
Title is accurate.
The point is that they booed. Not 'some blah, some blah'.
Jews in America are privileged. They are one of the most successful minorities in the country.
Palestinians have human rights. Defending their human rights is a noble cause. No need for the quotations but being as you are a racist Jewish supremacist like Dov Hikund (Kahanist) it's not surprising you'd put Palestinian humanity in a grey area.
What does this have to do with the topic? What are you responding to?
Wonderful interview Phil.
I loved this very last sentence:
It's a great play on the tribal loyalty thing and 'loyalty' to the clash of civ. narrative.
And it also relates perfectly to the article about Max Ajl and his mom defending him in the comments section of the article in question.
'Treason' against injustice inbuilt or a product of tribalism is a worthwhile endeavor and a moral imperative.
Uh huh. You do not blame them.
You say it's reasonable for them to nuke everyone in the world and that they have a 'right' to be in the land, which means they have a right to a Jewish majority. Which isn't the same thing as simply a right to be there.
But your internal monologue as comments are always amusing to read. As is your Naziesque historical revisionism of Al-Andalus being a takeover of 'Spain'.
You construct a caricature of MW.
Do the authors agree with that interpretation?
Or have you described certain commentators?
You should judge 'the Jewish press' as harshly as you judge MW - by their comments' section.
The comments section 'elsewhere' is a cesspool.
And it's full of direct, no subtlety, Islamophobia, ethnocentrism, etc.
This is because of the shortness of replies and the lack of discussion. Haaretz is a great example. You rarely if ever have discussions.
Just people venting.
Here its one long drawn out discussion/quibble/'fight' after another.
That's how it should be - a war of ideas. But those other websites - ie, 'the Jewish press' - are simply a mud slinging contest.
Ridiculous. Implying a Palestinian is specifically anti-Israel as if that is the emphasis.
Great news that Hoffman supported the movie though. He's a liberal. He recognizes the humanity in the Palestinian people through that documentary.
The author of the article slandering him with antisemitic characterizations is inhuman and thinks the world is centered around Israel and Zionism.
Phil have you read Joy Gordon's book, 'Invisible War'? It's very thoroughly researched and exhaustive (and leaves you exhausted, because of how hypocritical and evil the sanctions regime was).
Its about the Iraq sanctions.
Even before the Iraq War we were destroying Iraq through the sanctions.
So Menachem is pro-bureaucratic/time-wasting/land-stealing vis a vis no preconditions + facts on the ground/ "piece process"?
Stop saying you support BDS. Anyone can say anything online. As you do. You are a Zionist shill.
He also fundraises for the IDF.
He's a hasbarat.
Poor Miriam.
Maybe he/she really likes Georgie Boy.
Serenity now!!!
We are turning into Israel.
They are a nation and their territory is Israel/Palestine.
They simply lack and lacked the power to prevent Jewish colonists and thieves from ethnically cleansing them and robbing them of their homeland.
true believers like yrn are always looking to spam the anti-semitism button
what are you going to do, write an angry letter to the board of directors of the Internet and withdraw your funding, yrn?
I agree completely.
Jewish fanatics and extremists and the standard American jingoist/radical nationalist are always vicious and mendacious.
There's no need for civility with people who are pathological liars. And that is what Zionism is - a lie.
Israel does no extensive background checks for security.
It abuses people it views as enemies of Zionism so that they cannot visit the Palestinians in the PALESTINIAN territories.
This is about humiliation. Dirtbag fascists with a little bit of power abusing it so people cannot help the Palestinians endure people like you!
Another superficial and ignorant straw man by hoppie.