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Israel can't bring itself to call pricetag what it is: terrorism.
link to timesofisrael.com
What's good for the goose doesn't apply to Israeli ganders. Just read the comments to that article to see how depraved they have become as a nation. I don't believe redemption is possible for them.
The latest gallup poll shows that this has now dropped to 10% - the lowest ever recorded. Does anyone care?
link to gallup.com
@ American
Indeed. Those of us who were pushing for Ron Paul in the last election were shouted down by so-called "liberals" on this site because of Paul's views on some fiscal issues that he had no power to implement as they required congressional approval, while ignoring the giant contributions he could have made in stopping all our wars and bringing the troops home, and restoring the constitution.
@ lysias
It makes you a thinking American and a patriot.
@ Oscar
You are exactly right - the false left/right dichotomy gives the power elites the means to show us opposite faces of the same coin in election after election. It matters little whether you vote for Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum. If that isn't apparent after watching Bush W. and Obama, I don't know what will make people wake up.
People don't realize that they are manipulated to bicker over issues that don't matter two hoots in the scheme of things, when it comes to talking about patriots like Ron Paul while giant issues like Israeli espionage and sabotage of the US democratic process get swept under the rug and people rush to reelect the Feinsteins and McCains of this world. You need to look no further than the comment section of this blog during the last election to see this in action.
I don't know if there are clandestine organizations and interests behind Snowden. To be honest, I don't even care if Bibi is behind this (as shachalnur implies) to discredit Obama in a tit-for-tat slap-fest.
The repercussions on Manning were intended to, and probably succeeded in, silencing others who may have aspired to whistle-blowing prominence. However, Snowden could prove different in that he is quickly attaining "hero" status. The outcome of this could be the emergence of more whistle-blowers if Snowden were to surface from this with his life intact, and with significant fame to boot.
I am salivating at the thought of hordes of whistle-blowers revealing the guts of the infernal machine, from 9/11 to AIPAC spying to complicit politicians like Feinstein and Harman, and the Israeli destruction of the US.
It is obvious to many of us that the government cannot save us as it is itself complicit in all of this.
Patriotic whistle-blowers, however, can be the fuse to the world's loudest explosion.
Well, I am not on the left, but I don't regret supporting Hagel, even if he doesn't make all my dreams come true. Just the drama of the senate fight was worth the popcorn. It was clearly visible to the citizenry and had to have had some positive impact, if only by pouring sunlight on the vermin. The fact that he won had to have had a negative impact on the lobby by challenging the concept that they were unbeatable. It has to give more courage to the next such encounter.
As for Hagel himself, I had posted earlier that I expect him to do his deed in silence while maintaining his outer subservience. He did a recent housecleaning by firing a bunch of pentagon officials. I suspect that some of them were Israeli insiders and spies installed during the Bush regime. I expect that his work won't be visible until later.
In the meantime, I fully expect him to mouth pro-Israel BS.
I wonder when this corrupt funding of Israel will become so blatantly obvious to our somnambulant citizenry that the guillotines will be rolled out? I keep thinking that this "next" one will be the tipping point, but somehow it just never seems to happen. Perhaps the one after this one...
@ shachalnur
Very interesting in that it is an internally-consistent hypothesis. Hard to believe that Israel would be brave enough to strike out on its own - Sampson option or not.
I am the last person on the planet who would apologize for Obama. Most of the things he does, he does because he is Obama. I do wonder about some of the more dramatic about-faces early in his presidency, however, and ascribe them to blackmail. Both the Cairo speech and the choice of his cabinet rank high among those.
I have long believed that Obama was being blackmailed. Before he was elected in 2008, he talked about going after Bush W. if he had committed any crimes. After he was elected (and prior to inauguration) there was a meeting of past presidents in the WH. Subsequent to that, all talk of indicting Bush went out the window, and he started talking about "looking forward". Someone took him to the woodshed and made sure that he was no longer so "uppity".
This is another of those so-called conspiracy theories that turns into conspiracy fact. The only thing that I am not certain about is whether it is the CIA or the Mossad that has its finger on the trigger. Perhaps it is a collusion of both, since the CIA has long been infiltrated.
How do we restore our nation when it is so overcome by the forces of evil?
@ radkelt
Read my second and last paragraph.
We are governed by venal traitors who do us much harm. The usual response to the accusation of this treachery is that if they did not support the lobby, they would be ousted from office by the lobby funding their challengers. I don't buy this argument as there are other alternatives to brazen defiance.
At the very least, they owe us notification of the bills being considered, as well as a brief dissertation of the pros and cons of such bills in layman language. This is not different from the sample ballots that are sent out around each election, which also contain proposed measures and include statements for and against the measures.
By publishing these bills and highlighting the two opposing views, they could enable the citizenry to be involved in the government as the founders intended.
@ annie
There are only 5 comments to that article at this time. I predict that this will get scant coverage in the media and will soon disappear into the "memri" hole.
@ mondonut
My bet is on an attack by martians who forced them to dig their own grave and then jump in to be buried.
If new evidence materializes to negate the martian hypothesis, I am betting on a conspiracy whereby dead palestinians were imported from the diaspora and buried here to defame the Israelis.
...excuse the gallow's humor. There is little of mirth to be found in all of this.
@ Sin Nombre
Unequivocally agree!
OT: Israeli DM Threatens to Attack Russian Ships
link to news.antiwar.com
That shitty little country is completely off its rocker!!! RIP.
What gives me nightmares is that when that happens, most of those zionists will end up here in my backyard. Imagine a doubling down of the zionists' manipulation of our government as 6 million of them show up here! Beam me up, Scotty!
@ American
On this I differ from you. I don't want to attack Israel with the blood of our troops or with our treasure. All I want is to stop all aid to Israel and end all support in the UN. Let them go fend for themselves and sort out their troubles with their neighbors without our help.
I assert that the problems in the ME will be resolved within one month if we do that.
It's a pity that we were unable to institute the billboard project in San Francisco that you had written about earlier, annie. It would have been perfect on 101 and 84. If more San Franciscans are educated on this, the less likely that the ilk that currently comprises the San Francisco Supervisors will ever be elected to those posts again.
Chas Freeman for president! You read it here first.
@ American
What a great loss to us that AIPAC and friends were able to prevent Chas Freeman's appointment, and shame on Obama for failing to back him up! However, it appears that he continues to be useful despite that setback.
This dissertation is a keeper and should be distributed far and wide. It makes my blood boil to be reminded of how much you and I have paid, and continue to pay, for that shitty little country, and all because of our failure to rein in the scoundrels in our congress. Meanwhile, Americans are sleeping homeless and jobless on the streets of a nation that could eliminate poverty and hunger in the world, were it not spending all its attention, blood, and treasure on the whim of traitors in our midst.
Damn you all! Damn you all to hell!
@ Ramzi Jaber
Sorry, I don't buy the thesis that there is any geopolitical advantage to us whatsoever for aligning with Israel. The geopolitical disadvantage is glaringly obvious to me, however.
Looks like a terrorist to me.
Antisemitism ended (declined) after the holocaust. Will the Israeli version of the "muslim holocaust" in Palestine also end Islamophobia? Bigotry must always result in blood, it seems.
About F**king time!
I hope that our citizen victim Furkan finds justice finally served.
I think he was referring to the shelling of Iraq from our ships. I believe he said that it required no courage to do that (not unlike the drones of today). I suppose the converse of the terrorists hurling their own bodies at the WTC is courageous by contrast. In the days of "support our troops", that was deemed unpatriotic by the PTB.
Someone took him to the woodshed and "reformed" him after that.
Right after 9/11, Maher was actually critical of US action in Iraq and fairly vocal about it. Subsequently, and perhaps because of that, he was taken off the air.
After a while, he returned. He seemed to have been chastened, and no longer seemed to be the gadfly he once was. It seemed that it was at that time that his anti-muslim tirades began and many of us see him today as a gatekeeper for the lobby.
I wonder what happened to change him.
I think her point is that Israel is in the Eurovision song contest while not being in Europe. Cognitive dissonance.
Stop US aid to *all* countries - Israel and all arab countries.
Keep my tax money at home to feed our homeless and poor. If we cut off the flow of our cash to the ME, matters will sort themselves out. For good measure, no more vetos in the UNSC on behalf of any country. We should not be thwarting the course of International condemnation.
Russia and China will rush in, you say? I don't think they will be supporting Israel. They have much more to gain by supporting the Arabs and Iran. So do we, as a matter of fact.
Enough. More than enough.
Thanks for that, Hostage.
I still don't understand why Abbas hasn't taken the case to the ICC yet. What is he waiting for? It's not as if another shoe is about to drop!
While the UN recognition is fresh, he should make hay. The longer he waits, the more credibility to the suspicion that he is merely Israel's puppet. Well, I guess it is well beyond suspicion at this stage...
@yrn
No drama? All you hasbarites frothing at the mouth and rushing en masse to smear the man? I am sitting here with popcorn on my lap and loving the show!
...and, not to put too fine a point on it, doing it this way has generated a lot more drama and drawn more attention to this noble act, than if he had merely not acceded in the first place.
Judging by the hasbarist firestorm, this is cause for glee.
"The enemy of my friend, is my enemy" - to coin a phrase.
The house of Saud has to align with US/Israel to maintain their precarious perch. Tick, tock - both Israel and the house of Saud and all the other tyrants that we have propped up in the ME will soon fade from the pages of time.
Tick tock.
Just read Henry Norr's article in sfgate ( link to sfgate.com ) - what an amazingly scholarly piece of journalism!
I hope that it is distributed far and wide. Can't wait to see the ensuing lawsuit! I hope it encourages Intel to bring all of those jobs back to the US.
As I had posted earlier, China is becoming a more prominent player in world diplomacy.
According to VT, it was China's pressure on Netanyahu rather than of the US that led to the settlement freeze (emphasis mine):
link to veteranstoday.com
Not his own boots or those of any of his offsprings, however. Few people know the dark side of his performance in Vietnam and betrayal, and his subsequent pardon. They only tout his imprisonment, and not what he did as a POW.
Except, there is special dispensation if you are able to convert your spouse to Islam (not by force, I agree).
Can't wait for the guillotines to be rolled out for Marie "Boxer" Antoinette. She will never get my vote - ever.
@asherpat
I wouldn't know how to find the statistics for the entire world although someone here might, but given that freedom fighters are now labelled as terrorists, and given the huge amount of terrorism enacted by Israel on Palestinians and our own military on civilian populations in muslim countries, I doubt if the percentage would be much different than that for the US, and would certainly not be inverted.
In any case, we are talking about the (deliberate) increase of Islamophobia in the US, and these statistics knock out the scaffoldings that support the distributors of that myth here, along with crap like Sharia law replacing the US constitution.
Interesting statistics on terrorism from the FBI:
Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil
link to washingtonsblog.com
@ radii
...when conspiracy theories become conspiracy facts ... and the walls come tumbling down.
@ ivri
An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.
link to loonwatch.com
@ miriam6
Oh, cry me a river! When you stop spending our tax money to subvert our government by bribing our politicians to fight your wars and protect you in the UN from sanctions, then you get to make demands on whether we get to impose our will on you - which is laughable anyway, considering you have been thwarting our will for decades.
Oh, yeah - good deflection to Gitmo! Most of us are against Gitmo, but it is blocked by the same aforementioned politicians. I am, and I am pretty sure annie is, very much for closing down Gitmo and affording civilian trials to all its occupants for whatever crimes they are being held for.
@ miriam6
Rather stupid of you to take that tack, considering Israel is well on its way to doing that itself with forced sterilization and coercion to leave.
link to mondoweiss.net
@ mondonut
Good! It shows that they are not fooled by this scam.
Oh, it shows up on Jpost now:
link to jpost.com
I am in Beijing this week while they celebrate a 3-day Labor Day holiday. While listening to news on one of the English stations on my car radio, I was surprised by the lengthy discourse on the Middle East in a city where most people outside of government know little and care less about what happens in the Middle East, except for the vague knowledge that much of their gasoline comes from there.
What was being discussed was the impending visit to China by Abbas on May 5th, followed by a visit on May 6th by Netanyahu. It seems that China is providing a forum for discussions on the course forward for both parties. The Chinese government reiterated how much import they were lending to this occasion and their desire to be the catalyst for peace in the ME.
What struck me as odd was that I have not read about this visit anywhere in the Western Media (TM). I remarked to my Chinese companion that this highlighted the rising prominence of China and Russia in world diplomatic affairs, in contrast to our own declining importance and credibility.
Over the past few years, China has been quietly forging trade alliances with countries across the globe and ensuring a steady supply of necessary resources from them as well as engendering their goodwill and cooperation. In contrast, we have been trying to (unsuccessfully) obtain our resources by bombing people all over the globe at great cost to our blood and treasure - not to mention what we are doing to them!
As an American, I am confounded as to why we would choose this horrific path for our resources, when China has clearly demonstrated a much more desirable alternative and a successful one at that. Well, maybe I am not that confounded and know full well why this is so.
The Israeli hold on our government has to end, or we as a people will end. It is more than high time that we put our own self-interest and well-being ahead of those of that shitty little country (sic).
Sitting in my car in Beijing yesterday with my Chinese companion, I felt embarrassed to be American.
I have to agree with Donald that this is wishful thinking. Most Americans have no idea about what our Chechen involvement has been, or where to even look on a map. Meanwhile, Israel and its supporters here are filling the airwaves with Islamophobia.
Just take a look at the comments section of Huffpo - Israeli hasbara and stoking Islamophobia at its worst. Seems Israel is redoubling its propaganda foray.
I fear this is not going to end well. It will either destroy the fabric of our society and be the death knell of of American values, or, it will result in a worldwide backlash against jews that will be equally unfortunate - most notably, right here at home. It may not be too late to turn back the clock, but it requires a political will that is not evident at all.
@ Menachem
What utter rubbish! Show me the polls that show that 66.7% of the US supports Israel and qualify that with what the actual question was that was asked and how it was couched.
Seems you crawled back out from under a rock since June 2010. You must think we are all idiots here.
I am happy to accept every baby step that comes our way. Drip, drip, drip, and the walls come tumbling down.
I knew cal wouldn't let me down!
After Boston, we should put Muslims under surveillance, says Rep. King
link to refreshingnews99.blogspot.in
Bangladeshi man beaten in Bronx for being "Arab" after Boston bombing...
link to refreshingnews99.blogspot.in
Much as I love Jon and Steve, my peeve with them both (more Jon than Steve) is that despite being fully aware of the situation in the ME as they frequently demonstrate in skits like these, they continue to toe the zionist line and pull their punches on all matters Israeli, while being brutally direct about everything else under the sun. They have come close, on some occasions, to taking a light jab at Israel and its support in congress, but too subtly for it to have any impact on the general public.
An International backlash against Israel is imminent. I can feel it in my bones - and it can't happen soon enough!
Way to go, bears!
@ American
I think it has been argued that a "lobby" is an organization of citizens, and so, has the right to petition. But, a foreign (unregistered) lobby has no rights - even if they register, and even if they include citizens in their organization.
It is a slippery slope as that same argument was used to make corporations into "people", since they are comprised of people - something I vehemently disagree with.
I agree with the rest of your points, and I would love to see lobbies go away.
@ American
I am not against lobbies - the constitution permits them to petition. I am against specific lobbies that subvert our system to the detriment of our people. Many would argue that the gun lobby does that - I don't, but I am not going to debate that. However, the Israel lobby hurts me personally. Our government gives my tax money to Israel without my blessing, a part of which comes back to the Israel lobby to fund/bribe our pols to re-appropriate more funds (bribe) for Israel and to re-elect those same pols, and it all comes out of my hard-earned income. Moreover, AIPAC and others are unregistered agents of a foreign government and the sabotage of our government has allowed them to stay unregistered.
That's what I want destroyed.
@bpm
God may. The victims won't. Nor will their compatriots.
Karma is a bitch.
Shadows of giants in the valley of the damned.
@ Donald
Well said. It is assumed that *all* arabs and *all* persians are muslims, not to mention Pakistanis, Indonesians, and other brown-skinned members of the populace. In fact, anyone wearing a turban, including sikhs, can be shot as a muslim terrorist, as we have seen.
It is not as if these hate-mongers are engaging in academic debate about the fine-points of Islamic faith. It is a clear (and reasonably successful) effort to demonize an entire people that is viewed as enemies of Israel, and thus, should be enemies of the US.
Poppycock! Show me the proof of that assertion!
Nope. Wrote in "Ron Paul" in 2008 and in 2012. I never vote for anyone who panders to Israel or AIPAC.
Also in the above article:
From Lobelog:
Could it be that we have finally scared congress to the point that they are not as eager to kowtow to Israel? I would credit the Hagel nomination process as contributing to this.
link to lobelog.com
Hardly.
It shows that she is human like the rest of us who are frustrated by having to listen to the same crap over and over and over again, and then some more - like the drip-drip of water torture. It is not as if new information is being provided, or even honest information. It is the constant repetition of the same tired and hackneyed hasbara that has been debunked over and over and over again.
When the intent of diversions and thread-jackings such as these is to stifle debate, it can hardly be pronounced as representing "free speech". The opposite, in fact.