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Computer Scientist, fiercely patriotic American (non-jingoistic) and America-firster, Ron Paul supporter, Capricorn. Believes that if we do what is best for the US, it will result in doing what is best for the rest of the world (including Palestine).

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  • Finkelstein on Joan Peters's legacy (and Dershowitz's legal troubles)
    • Yes, sounded very Clintonesque to me.

    • This is an earlier article where they interviewed the dershbag:

      Prof. Dershowitz, Tell Me How You Really Feel

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      The suit says that Jane Doe No. 3 was forced to have sex with you, Prince Andrew and "many other powerful men," including unnamed politicians, foreign presidents and world leaders. Why were you and the Prince singled out by name?

      They want to void the plea agreement and needed to find a lawyer who knew Epstein before [the indictment], and had been on his island, his home in New Mexico, Palm Beach. I fit the bill. It was lawyer profiling.

      And the Prince?

      They claimed that Prince Andrew was using his influence to get Epstein a better deal with the government. What's more laughable than suggesting that the U.S. Attorney would listen to the Prince to go easy on Epstein!

      Why bother responding if you think the allegations are so outrageous? Why not just let the facts come out during the legal process?

      I have to respond to everything. That's the way I am. Imagine having an unblemished personal life then reading graffiti scrawled on the bathroom door that gets picked up in every paper based on the assertions of a woman who's a serial liar.

      This is the interesting part from that interview (emphasis mine):

      Seems risky to bring a lawsuit for just ideological differences.

      No one can understand Cassell's motive. Either he will be disbarred or I will be. And if I knowingly had sex with a sex slave then I would deserve disbarment.


    • Meet the Lawyer Who's Giving Dershowitz Hell
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      How strong is this case? Do you think you can void Epstein's plea agreement with the feds?

      We always look for cases with strong claims that have wide ranging impact. We feel we have a strong case against the government for violating the rights of victims. We're not commenting on the details of the case; we prefer to speak through our court pleadings.

      You sound like a serious lawyer but you have to admit that this case has become a soap opera.

      Brad and I are two lawyers who want to vindicate our clients. Other things happen that are not part of our plan. My point is that this is not a unique case for us. No one is surprised that I'm involved in a Crime Victims' Rights Act case—that's what I do.

    • The Monica Lewinsky moment may be approaching:


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      Judge Kenneth Marra, of the Southern District of Florida, wrote earlier this month that “public policy favors judicial records being open to the public,” ordering Epstein to show “extraordinary circumstances or particularized needs” that would justify keeping the records sealed, according to Reuters.

      Marra ruled that the government did have an “obligation to inform Epstein’s victims about the deal,” ABC reported, “but [Marra] has reserved judgement about whether the government failed to meet its obligations until a more complete factual record is developed.” He has, however, indicated that if he does decide that the victims’ rights were violated by the plea agreement, he would consider rescinding Epstein’s original deal.

    • And the attention moves from the dershbag to include Ken Starr:

      Conservative Scold Ken Starr Got a Billionaire Pedophile Off

      Still, there are plenty who will wonder how the self-proclaimed Boy Scout managed to go to bat to get a sex fiend off. “Many lawyers would say that they pass no moral judgment on their clients, but I’m not sure that Kenneth Starr can plausibly offer that excuse,” said Joe Conason, editor in Chief of the National Memo, who co-wrote the book The Hunting of the President. “As for why Starr would represent Jeffrey Epstein, you will have to ask him—certainly not because he thought it would improve his reputation. Then again, perhaps he assumed nobody would find out.”

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    • The Lobby runs swiftly to close ranks:

      Battling Jewish Titans Alan Dershowitz and Ronn Torossian Kiss and Make Up

      Just in time for Shabbos, the super lawyer Alan Dershowitz and the PR big Ronn Torossian have issued a joint statement that puts their differences—differences that had played out on the virtual pages of the Observer—behind them.

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    • @ bilal a

      Excellent point.

    • As the paris event fades from the front pages, the dershbag is returning, as the story that won't go away:

      From Rania Khalek (a good list of examples):
      There are two groups of people Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has spent his career resolutely defending. The first is Israeli war criminals. And the second is accused and convicted rapists.
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      From the Harvard Crimson:
      In the latest development in an ongoing legal dispute, a woman who previously accused
      Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan M. Dershowitz of inappropriately having sexual relations with her when she was a minor has signed a sworn affidavit reaffirming her earlier allegations.
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      On ABC 10 in Florida:
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      From ABC news:
      Lawyers for Billionaire Sex Offender Linked to Prince Andrew Scandal Ask Judge to Keep Documents Sealed
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      And disgustingly (but predictably):
      Alan Dershowitz gets support of Harvard professors
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      And now for facts:
      Just released flight records show Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has been flying with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein on the financier's private jet dubbed the 'Lolita Express' since as early as 1997, despite public statements that they were only acquaintances.
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      The high-profile lawyer has been distancing himself from Epstein ever since a young woman named Virginia Roberts filed a lawsuit claiming she was recruited to work as a 'sex slave' for Epstein when she was just 15, naming both Dershowitz and Prince Andrew as two of her molesters.
      The flight records, obtained by Gawker, also show former President Bill Clinton rode on Epstein's jet at least 11 times, and often with two of Epstein's female associates believed to have provided the dozens of underage girls to their boss and his well-connected friends.
      On Thursday, Dershowitz appeared on the Today show to emphatically deny claims he had sex with then-underage Roberts, saying she was 'making the whole thing up'.

      'I was never in the presence of a single underage woman,' he said. 'I never saw [Epstein] doing anything improper. I was not a witness. I was not a participant. And I will prove it.'
      On Wednesday, Roberts lodged fresh documents in Florida detailing the alleged abuse she suffered at the Duke of York's hands, including how she had an orgy with him and eight other young girls.

  • State Dep't says Netanyahu speech is not inappropriate, disrespectful, humiliating or embarrassing
    • This is the beauty of the scandal in my view. The naked overreach by Israel supporters is pulling the curtain back on the power of the lobby to incite war.

      You are exactly right on this, Phil. This is why I am an ardent fan of Netanyahu getting re-elected - his words and actions will do more to expose the power of the Lobby than if he is replaced by someone more diplomatic and less obnoxious.

  • Menendez bags on Iran sanctions, and congressman says AIPAC demands deference to Israel over US
    • This is excellent! A few more congress members like John Yarmuth and this power configuration is toast. It is so great to hear the voice of a true patriot voicing exactly the thoughts that we share - that American interests trump Israel's in every way. John Yarmuth is clearly in touch with his constituents - the citizens of the USA.

      This will also expose the traitors in our midst, like Tobin. We are noting who they are, and when their ships sinks, as it clearly will, we will be coming after those scurrying rats with a meat cleaver. [Note to NSA: that was a metaphor and I am not advocating physical violence!].

  • 'NYT' and Matthews warn that Netanyahu speech to Congress could lead US to war
    • Tripple ditto, Taxi. I concur on all counts.

    • @ David Doppler

      Great post David, however, I do want Netanyahu to be re-elected. He has done more for making Americans aware of what Israel is doing to us than any previous politician. The longer he stays in power, the quicker this marriage-made-in-hell comes to a divorce.

      If he is not re-elected, they may elect someone more diplomatic without changing the facts on the ground or the zionist trajectory. In either event, it won't be pleasant for the Palestinians in the short term, but may well pave the way for a much more desirable outcome in the medium term for him to continue to lead Israel down into the abyss.

    • @ Blownaway

      Believe it or not, things are changing and I expect that you will hear from your friends soon.

      2015 is of to a much better start than I had anticipated, so much so, that I am going to put aside my usual pessimistic outlook and actually dare to dream that we have reached the tipping point. It started with the zionists having to play a mostly defensive strategy as their PR campaigns started to fail with amazing rapidity and with the American public is starting to become aware of how Israel is bad for us. At a Safeway grocery store here in San Francisco, I was surprised by the deep discussion that the checkout lady got into with me and how she was so informed about what was happening in the ME (I did point her to MW before leaving). Granted that she is a student working there part-time, but I have rarely had this open a discussion about Israel in public before.
      Moreover, San Francisco is not the typical US city.

      I am going to stick my neck out and predict that the US-Israel relationship will fracture irreparably within the next two years before Obama is out of office, not necessarily because him, but because of the dynamics in play during this time.

      Stock up on popcorn as 2015 promises to be a blockbuster.

    • Don't give up on us yet, Ramzi. We are just waking up.

  • How a culture remembers its crimes is important: A review of 'American Sniper'
    • @ Keith

      Something which hasn’t been adequately discussed is the role of Epstein’s procurer Ghislaine Maxwell

      There is a lot that is not being discussed, and I suspect that the lawyers know what they are doing. There is a stash of evidence that has been hinted at without revealing its content. I bet the lawyers don't want to tip their hand too early and try the case in the media, instead they will wait to deliver their hammer-blows in the courtroom. I am waiting for the revelations of the videos from Epstein's house.

      The biggest story, however, is the power of the dark-side™ to make what could have been a life-term in prison go away secretly. That is huge, and the centerpiece of the power configuration. Kill that and you have killed the beast.

    • @ bilal a

      Not only have we not forgotten this, but I hunt the world for news on this everyday. This is much bigger than most people understand and would blow the lid off of the corruption in our government and other governments and bring the entire Israel lobby down on its knees.

      The video you linked to is amazing:

      It is a pity that this kind of discussion only happens on sites like RT and not locally. But, it doesn't matter any more - the dark-side™ has overreached and is battling on several fronts. The fact that the dershbag was able to pull off an immunity deal is going to be devastating to the lobby and a whole bunch of politicians who have been blackmailed in the process.

      This ain't going away, no siree! This is probably the most important event unfolding in a long time and will be the keystone that will bring down the entire power configuration of the lobby.

      Phil/Annie - I hope that you guys will continue to follow this as you have done. This could be the biggest story of our lifetime.

  • Obama won't meet Netanyahu during 'bizarre,' 'historic,' 'unprecedented' visit (Updated)
    • Yep, the counter-comments are pretty pathetic. More muslim-bashing and palestine-bashing, unrelated to the topic being discussed.

      The following comment got over 940+ thumbs up with 167+ comments mostly approving:

      Nancy K Edwards · Top Commenter · Clinical Psychotherapist at Self
      This is nothing short of outrageous and unprecedented for a third tier politician to undermine and go behind a president's back. lt's classless and disrespectful toward the office of president as well. Netanyahu, by accepting the invitation, is also thumbing his nose at the president as retaliating for Obama having voiced concerns about the Palestinian slaughter a few months back. Boehner's breaking all the rules of protocol and it infuriates me.

      The hasbara responses are all very lame and being quashed. Here is an example (student or teacher?):

      Michael Steaphens · Montevallo High School
      Chris Tompkins ,yes but Obama gave millions in aid and military equipment to our enemy,the Muslim Brotherhood.Now,the 64 million dollar question is...which one will behead you and rape your wife and daughter for not converting to their religion?

      Pretty hilarious!

    • Folks, I am convinced that there is measurable change in awareness, at least among those who frequent the interweb. I just wandered over to Huffpo:

      Obama Snubs Netanyahu

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      The number of comments on that article are huge, and they are predominantly anti-Israel/anti-Boehner. That will probably change as the hasbarists wake up in Israel and go online, but for now, it is quite a pleasantly surprising demonstration of outrage at Boehner/Netanyahu, and solid support for Obama.

      Interesting times! ◕‿◕

    • About time Obama showed a little gumption! I think he is emboldened by the fact that Mossad doesn't think sanctions are the way to go with Iran.

      I do hope Bibi gets re-elected. Nothing exposes the dark underbelly of Israel and its influence on congress more than Bibi and his mouth.

  • Congress invites Netanyahu to rebut Obama on Iran, and White House slams 'breach of protocol'
    • @ Pixel

      Thanks - I put in an order for the book. From the synopsis, it certainly fits my image of Obama - worse than Bush W., but with more charisma.

    • @ Bornajoo

      Thanks for that link to Icke's article. It is surprisingly insightful and prescient for 2008 and a far-cry from his "lizard people" reputation.

      Speaking of "Conspiracy Theories", it behooves us to remember that each is, essentially, a theory and not mere baseless speculation. Wikipedia describes the essential traits of scientific theory to be the following:

      A body of descriptions of knowledge is usually only called a theory if it fulfills the following criteria:

      - It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics).
      - It is well-supported by many independent strands of evidence, rather than a single foundation. This ensures that it is probably a good approximation, if not completely correct.
      - It is consistent with pre-existing experimental results and at least as accurate in its predictions as are any pre-existing theories.
      - It can be subjected to minor adaptations to account for new data that do not fit it perfectly, as they are discovered, thus increasing its predictive capability over time.
      - It is among the most parsimonious explanations, economical in the use of proposed entities or explanatory steps. (See Occam's razor. Since there is no generally accepted objective definition of parsimony, this is not a strict criterion, but some theories are much less economical than others.)

      Therefore, unless a so-called "Conspiracy Theory" can be debunked by demonstrating that it does not meet the above criteria, it should be regarded as valid as, say, Einstein's Theory of Relativity.

      So, as far as Israel, the Lobby, congress, and my above assertions about Obama being blackmailed are concerned, I contend that it squarely meets the above criteria. and we can predict Obama's behavior for the remainder of his term in office using that theory.

      Incidentally, many of the theories that surround JFK, 9/11, the Paris attack, and a host of other false-flag events, can also be subjected to the same criteria, and should be in the purview of respectable debate and discussion and not stigmatized to the fringes of tin-foil cults.

    • @ Kay24

      To a large extent, Obama’s hands are tied

      I respectfully disagree with you on this. If his hands are tied, it is because he has tied them himself.

      He has the power to stop Israel and the lobby dead in its tracks. All he has to do is go to the American people as some of our greater presidents have done. It would render congress, the lobby, and Israel, completely powerless and allow him to defang these vipers. He could rally the people by educating them on why war with Iran would be against our best interests as well as why supporting Israel has lost us all our prestige in the world and rendered us impotent. He would leave behind a legacy that would be hard to equal.

      We have given him a lot of credit over the years for being a smart man (unproven) and a constitutional scholar (drones anyone?). So why doesn't he do this obvious thing that would be great for the country and great for him? I am sure he would like to get back at Netanyahu and congress for humiliating him these past few years and thwarting the great intentions he had for peace in the ME that he filled us with hope in his Cairo speech. He could do all that now that he no longer has another election to worry about and leave his mark on history as one of our greatest presidents, a man his two daughters would revere for generations to come.

      I can come up with only one reason why he doesn't do it:
      he is being blackmailed.

      As with most politicians, he probably has some skeletons in his closet that the dark powers know about or trapped him into, that revealing them is not a consequence he can bear to allow. Maybe it has to do with whether he was really born in the US or maybe he had some sexual indiscretions (ala Dershowitz), or maybe he did some really nasty things (murders) in order allow him to come from nowhere to becoming the president of the USA, or maybe Michelle has some dark secrets of her own. Perhaps that is why he had to retract so many of his promises.

      His behavior over the past 6 years is inexplicable, and so much more so now when he no longer has election funding to worry about. I suspect that he is a proud man (hard to be a leader without that trait) and it must kill him to have his daughters look at his meekness with incomprehension. And yet, he has not demonstrated any actions to correct that state.

      What other reason could there be? I guess we may never know.

    • @ amigo (no reply button under your post)

      I thought there was a limit on campaign contributions in the USA

      Here you go:

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    • @ lysias

      Indeed - couldn't possibly have a worse outcome than our current method of putting snakes in positions of power.

    • One silver lining that may come of this:

      “The only question will be how many standing ovations will he receive? I think he had 29 last time around. Should we set up a betting pool on it?”

      There was quite an uproar from all quarters the last time he got those standing ovations. I am willing to bet that the ovations will be much more subdued this time around. With the exception of the usual suspects like Graham, Menendez, Cruz, and their ilk, I speculate that the response will be slightly more tepid (although still plentiful) compared to the last shameful event, because congress has to be more conscious that more eyes are on them as we wake from our stupor. I am sure that the attention that their last act of subservience got did not go unnoticed by them.


    • We are being destroyed, not by invading alien hordes, but by the traitors in our midst. These serpents in our collective bossoms whom we elected to serve and protect us, are the very prescriptions of our demise. Annie advised me not to hate, but it is nothing but hatred that I feel for our congress, whose venal nature is stealthily employed to our destruction.

      To the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool!

  • Gaza war blowback? Palestinian stabs 13 on Tel Aviv bus.
    • To the best of my knowledge, nobody on the bus died

      I should have said: "Of course, the people on the bus did not deserve to be stabbed..."

    • Under prolonged and extreme duress, all men can snap. Despair and hopelessness, and the continued denial of justice, can have unpredictable results on the human psyche. Radicalization is a case of nature versus nurture.

      Of course, the people on the bus did not deserve to die and are also innocent victims.

  • The ‘hasbara’ tweeps who brought down Jim Clancy, and their ties to Israel and the Israel lobby
    • Ugh! What a horrible article to start my day with!

    • The things I could do with a budget of $1.7 billion!

    • @ annie

      Good to know.

    • Aid→profits→political contributions→aid…

      Yeah, that's what pisses me off. The whole idea of checks-and-balance between the executive, legislature, and judiciary did not take into account the possibility of wholesale corruption. In the UK, the queen can dissolve parliament. We have no such failsafe in our constitution - a major oversight by our founders. Now what do we do? Depend on rigged elections?

    • I got it from veterans today. I don't believe I am allowed to link to that site.

    • Damn!! Speaking of hasbara, look where our tax dollars (in the form of $3+ billion in aid to Israel) is going! That's in billions with a capital 'B'!

      According to the report, the Israeli lobby is among the most well-funded in the EU. The US-based Israel Allies Foundation (IAF), which has an office in Brussels, lists its annual budget at 1.5 billion euro (more than $1.7 billion) and EFI spends approximately 400,000 euro (more than $460,000) annually.Despite this spending, Israel still has to resort to the help of western PR professionals. The report states that in 2011 Israel was looking for PR agencies in ten countries to improve how the world and especially Europe perceives the country. “The unprecedented PR move came amidst an increasingly vocal movement to boycott Israeli products, particularly strong in Europe, and a Palestinian campaign for UN recognition of statehood,” the study said, estimating the campaign’s budget at some $3.3 million a year.

  • Virulent, violent verbal tactics reveal Dershowitz as a bully, says fellow Israel advocate
    • Just waiting for the other shoe to drop in the Dersh saga. I wonder how long before this goes to trial.


  • US calls ICC decision to investigate Gaza 'tragic irony'
    • Meanwhile, it looks like Israel is preparing to hold 'faux investigations' to circumvent an investigation by the ICC. Apparently, if the offending state that houses the war criminal starts an investigation, then the ICC cannot.

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      'War crimes in Palestine': Who will investigate, and what?

      The ICC decision to launch an initial inquiry into claims of war crimes during last summer's fighting in Gaza does not mean there will be an investigation, the experts say.

      Also from Lebanon's Daily Star:

      Israel should welcome Palestine’s ICC entry

      Israel actually has little to fear from the ICC. To date, the experience of the ICC and other similar tribunals suggests that prosecutors usually refrain from pressing charges when countries have taken all available steps to avoid the commission of international crimes. For example, the ICC declined to investigate alleged crimes by European governments in Iraq. Similarly, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia has declined to prosecute suspected war crimes by NATO members in Bosnia and Kosovo. -

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  • Following Paris attacks the National Security State is passé, welcome to the International Security World
    • I go away for a week and in that time the whole Dershowitz affair is off all newspapers, replaced by the false-flag attack in Paris.

      These guys have fine-tuned this stuff to a science.

  • Dershowitz story is also an Israel story
    • Do you remember how short the days got in Nov-Dec?

      Yeah - couldn't wait for winter to be over. I lived for the days when I could see Mt. Rainier.

    • @ Denis

      No I haven't read it. Would you mind posting a link here? TIA.

    • Food for thought...

      The presumption of innocence is essential — but it should never mean presuming the guilt of the accuser

      If there was one thing that was pretty predictable when allegations surfaced against Prince Andrew of sex with an underage girl, it was that the alleged victim was going to have a rough time of it in the court of public opinion.
      As a culture, we have a knee-jerk urge to dismiss allegations of sex offences as lies, an inclination to sympathise more with the accused than the accuser. Buckingham Palace has asserted that “for the avoidance of doubt, any suggestion of impropriety with under age minors is categorically untrue”. And Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard law professor also implicated in the claims made by Virginia Roberts, has declared that allegations against him “should not be believed”, and therefore allegations towards Prince Andrew should also be “presumed” to be untrue.
      From a legal perspective, feminist writers like The Guardian’s Jessica Valenti have suggested reversing the burden of proof, so the onus is on the defendant to prove his innocence. The idea is not unheard of: as part of India’s rape law reforms, the Indian Evidence Act 1872 now includes a clause that if the victim alleges that there was no consent, there is a presumption of no consent. But the difficulties with this are obvious: such a burden is incredibly heavy upon the defendant.
      Presuming the innocence of the accused does not mean demonising the accuser. Presuming the innocence of the accused does not mean refusing to listen to them. Even a failure to convict does not “prove” innocence or discredit the initial accusation. So it’s about time the presumption of innocence stopped being used as a front for victim-blaming.

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    • Vivid imagery! I love it!

    • You are, undoubtedly, right about that in hindsight. Would that one of her friends had thought to illuminate her with that piece of advice back then when she could have acted on it. Perhaps they did, and she declined that sound bit of wisdom, more the pity. I do agree that she would have been a much more desirable candidate today had she dumped Bill back then.

      If she does that now, it is not clear whether it would help her or hurt her. I could argue both sides of that.

    • I used to live on Whidbey Island near Langley for a while about 20 years ago. Loved the area and the people. Couldn't hack the weather. Loved the Orcas (both the whales and the islands).

    • Indeed. Moreover, publicly ascribing motives to these lawyers can't possibly help him. He is so used to playing to the media that he has forgotten how court cases are battled. If he had a lawyer, his advice to him would be to say nothing (I learnt that from watching Perry Mason).

    • Turley's analysis is reasonable, however, he fell into the trap that Denis' dissection upthread at
      link to
      mentions with how the Dersh filed his affidavit. I think Denis did a much more masterful job in his analysis.

    • I can't help but wonder what kind of tongue-lashing Hillary must be giving Bill these days! Maybe she stuck with him all these years despite his peccadilloes to further her own ambitions for the Whitehouse, but now that this event threatens to destroy her last chance for the presidency, is it too late to divorce his ass?

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    • The Dershbag continues to stuff his foot into his oral orifice. Seems this great lawyer never learnt that assertions like this in pubic can only hurt him in the defamation case. Well, I for one, want to continue to encourage him to flap his jaw! More, more, I say!

      Lawyer and author Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax TV on Wednesday that he never had sex with the underage girl who now, as an adult, has named him as one of several prominent men who sexually abused her when she was a minor.

      Newsmax contributor Dershowitz, appearing on "MidPoint" with host Ed Berliner, also repeated his sharp criticism of the woman's two attorneys, asserting that "they're guilty of basically suborning falsehoods" and that "they are doing it for the money."
      Dershowitz told Berliner that he welcomes the defamation lawsuit "because finally I have an opportunity to cross-examine my false accusers and to prove that this woman made up the whole story and that her lawyers work with her and contrive with her."
      Asked why Cassell and Edwards would tangle with him, Dershowitz said, "Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of greedy lawyers.'

      Oh, man! He is like putting ammunition in their gun to shoot him with!

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    • Denis, I read your dissection once again, and slowly. It is a masterpiece!!
      Folks, you should all read it.

    • Nicely written, Denis! A very enjoyable and informative read! I hope that its sees widespread publication.

    • I am not the only one who thinks the Dersh's denials were curiously worded.

      Alan Dershowitz’s Curious Denials

      One has to wonder whether Dershowitz mischaracterizes these allegations in order to be able to deny them with such specifics. A more innocent possibility is that he wrote the draft declaration in a hurry and that he simply didn’t pay sufficient attention to Jane Doe #3’s allegations.

      Read the article at link to

    • This is how the press release begins:

      We need to look no further for compelling evidence of Alan Dershowitz's lack of credibility in his attacks on Bradley Edwards, Professor Paul Cassell, and Jane Doe #3, than a comparison of Mr. Dershowitz's words with his actions.

    • The Dershbag goes back on his words! Who would've thunk it!

      In clear and certain terms, Mr. Dershowitz supported his passionate and very public protestations of innocence with a public commitment to waive the statute of limitations so that he could directly confront the allegations made in federal court filings of his involvement in criminal sexual misconduct. When presented with a written waiver of the statute of limitations yesterday however, he refused to execute it.

      Mr. Dershowitz told the world he was prepared to submit to questioning under oath about the allegations made against him. However, a written invitation communicated to both Mr. Dershowitz and his attorney to schedule the deposition has been ignored for the last two days, consistent with Mr. Dershowitz's refusal to cooperate in providing testimony which refusal began more than 5 years ago.

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      And this is interesting too:

      'Multiple individuals have placed you in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein on multiple occasions and in various locations when Jeffrey Epstein was in the company of underage females subsequently identified as victims of Mr. Epstein's criminal molestations. This information is derived from both someone's testimony and private interviews. Your personal observations regarding such circumstances would clearly not involve any privileged communications, and it is those observations that will be the primary focus of our questioning.'

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    • @ Mooser

      LOL! Where do you come up with these? Must be the Seattle air!

      You should write a book with all your quips and puns and witty observations. It would be a bestseller!

    • @ Mooser

      It's another day in paradise here in the Bay area (a little chilly but sunny). I am sitting in my backyard with my laptop.

    • :-) Thanks just! Only problem is that not having taken one in so long, I have no idea what to do now that I have. The last thing I want to do is fly somewhere as my job keeps me in the air most of the time - so I am just relaxing at home with my laptop. I am happy that I have this juicy event unrolling to give me something to sink my teeth into.

    • Dark times ahead for Tony Blair. Not only does his phone number appear in the Epstein black book, but he may be up on war crimes charges too.

      Tony Blair 'could face war crimes charges' over Iraq War

      Lord Dykes asked: 'Is my noble friend aware that more and more people think it is some kind of attempt to prolong the agony of Mr Blair facing possible war crimes charges?'

      Tony Blair could face war crimes charges as a result of the Iraq war inquiry report, the House of Lords has been told.
      Lord Dykes of Harrow Weald, a Liberal Democrat peer, claimed that the publication of the inquiry by Sir John Chilcot was being delayed “to prolong the agony” of the former Labour Prime Minister.

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    • I find Ann Coulter pretty detestable, however, I could not find much to fault her on this interview. Must be freezing in hell!

      link to

      Ann Coulter says the Epstein rape case is "not just a Clinton sex scandal," but the "elites" "covering up and protecting one another."

      "This is what MSNBC and the rest of the networks have been describing what they thought these fraternities, what they thought the [Duke] lacrosse rape [case was]," Coulter said on FOX News' Hannity. This is the elites circling the wagon and protecting a pederast. It's a shocking case and that's just the known facts."

    • The Monica Lewinsky Blue Dress moment may be approaching.

      Jeffrey Epstein "may be the most dangerous sexual predator the [US] has ever seen" according to claims in a recently revealed lawyer's letter, as it emerges that the FBI allegedly possesses "secret documents" about the American billionaire that could provide evidence for under-age "sex slave" accusations against him.

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    • That may well be the outcome from the defamation suit.

    • Truth has an annoying way of rearing its head when you are at your most arrogant and dripping with hubris. I am hoping that this happens with this event. There is always the hope for that last straw that breaks the camel's back.

    • You are right, judging by the Islamophobic posts and comments on that site and all the links to Fox News.

    • Breitbart thinks the two lawyers blundered in suing the Dersh. I don't agree.


      In chess, blunders are noted with a “?” and major blunders with a “??”. However, the decision by lawyers Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell to sue Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz for defamation would deserve a third question mark, as it effectively discredits the claim by their unnamed client that Dershowitz committed rape against an underage girl. The claim was made in a lawsuit challenging a plea bargain in a prostitution case involving Dershowitz’s former client, Jeffey Epstein.

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    • The UK papers refer to him as "Retired Law Professor"

    • Alan Dershowitz moves to sue lawyers representing alleged teen ‘sex slave’ for defamation, but they sue him first

      This contains the motion by the Dersh.

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    • This may be connected to the alleged Whitehouse ring.

    • Yes, I am anticipating some fireworks from what the other 3 Jane Does may reveal. Jane Doe #3 has gotten a lot of publicity by removing her anonymity and we have heard her tale. The other 3 may be the icing on the cake, or the cake itself. The defamation lawsuit may provide the platform where much is revealed.

    • Every paper seems to have their set of "10 questions" for Randy Andy. These are the ones from The Daily Record:

      1) After the notorious photograph of you taken in London in 2001 with your arm around 17-year-old teenage masseuse and alleged trafficked sex slave Virginia Roberts, were you left alone with her and what took place?

      2) Did Virginia Roberts give you a massage, as she has claimed, in New York later that year and were either of you naked at the time?

      3) Did you witness a lesbian orgy of young Russian girls and Virginia Roberts arranged by Jeffrey Epstein on his island Little St James in the Caribbean?

      4) Were you aware that Jeffrey Epstein was paying Virginia Roberts and other girls for sex with him and his guests?

      5) Did you see naked teenage girls being entertained at Jeffrey Epstein’s properties in the Caribbean and West Palm Beach, Florida?

      6) Were you given sensual massages by a number of other young female consorts provided by Jeffrey Epstein, as alleged by a former member of his staff Juan Alessi?

      7) When did you first consider, as an heir to the throne, a father of two and for many years an official representative of the British government abroad, that your close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein was inappropriate?

      8) Have you offered any help or support to Jeffrey Epstein in his legal case against prosecutors in Florida and what form did this take?

      9) How many times have you met or spoken to Jeffrey Epstein since he was convicted of soliciting a minor in 2008?

      10) Why are you not, like Professor Alan Dershowitz who has been similarly accused by Virginia Roberts, taking legal action to clear your name of underage sex allegations?

      I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for a while!

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    • The scale of sexual perversion in the UK has reached unimaginable proportions.

      Scandal after scandal has sucked in media tycoons, politicians and celebrities, so much so that Home Secretary Theresa May's attempts to launch an independent inquiry into allegations of a Westminster abuse ring found itself in pieces again after she scrapped the panel last month. It has been virtually impossible for May to find someone willing to head up the inquiry who hasn't in some way been associated with those it was required to investigate.

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      I believe that the scale of this is even higher in the US, but it has been covered up better. We need this to explode and become at least as visible as the one in the UK if we are to be able to clean house in our government.

      Incidentally, this is how the NPA came about:

      Rather than charging Epstein, Krischer took the bizarre step of referring the case to a grand jury. America remains one of few countries in the world to still use grand juries to decide whether to prosecute a case. Two recently decided against indicting police officers who killed Mike Brown and Eric Garner. There is no judge presiding over a grand jury--instead, prosecuting attorneys, typically with close working relationships with the police, instruct the jury on the law. These attorneys hold a great deal of sway over the final results.

      It is no surprise, therefore, that the rich and powerful are keen for cases against them to go to a grand jury, where the prosecuting attorney, whom they may personally know, is able to "advise" the jury on what legal decision it should take.

      Who was it who flew in to Florida to advise Krischer on referring the case to a grand jury? None other than lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who now faces allegations of sexual abuse himself, and has been defending Prince Andrew in the past week. The Daily Beast reported in 2010 that "according to Detective Joe Recarey's report, Dershowitz began sending the detective Facebook and MySpace posts to demonstrate that some of these girls were no angels."

      Read the entire article. It is very well written.

    • This would appear to support your contention:

      Lawyer Dershowitz’s sex claims rebuttal puts pressure on Prince Andrew

      A royal source said that the duke was considering his options with his lawyers but indicated that it was unlikely he would issue a similarly detailed rebuttal. “He is looking at a series of \[legal\] options but it is clear that Mr Dershowitz is in a very different position given who he is and where he is,” the source said.

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    • More hints at video tapes emerging:

      Prince Andrew's alleged sexual romps with an underage girl is reportedly taped and tucked away somewhere. According to recent reports, paper filed against his friend Jeffrey Epstein in 2006 mentioned that he had installed hidden cameras everywhere in his property to record the indecent acts of important people with underage prostitutes for further criminal use such as blackmail.

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    • Latest coverage from the Guardian (nothing new but seems the interest is still alive)

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    • The neocons are having a field day with this! Does she realize that she is stabbing a fellow warmonger?


      Ann Coulter, columnist and author of “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican” argued that Jeffrey Epstein’s sex crimes were everything the Rolling Stone UVA case was hyped up to be, but ultimately wasn’t on Tuesday’s “Hannity” on the Fox News Channel.

      “This is the elites getting cozy and covering up and protecting one other” she stated. And “this is not a political case, this is what MSNBC and the rest of networks…what they thought these fraternity rapes were, what they thought the [Duke] lacrosse rape [was]. This is the elites circling the wagons and protecting a pederast, it is a shocking case and that’s just the known facts.”

      Coulter then laid out how the case against Epstein transpired, stating that despite “quite strong” evidence against Epstein “the same prosecutor that was going after Rush Limbaugh for back pain medication for two years, wants to give him [Jeffrey Epstein] a little ticket.” This then prompted the Palm Beach police to go to the federal government. When they did, the US Attorney’s office came under “astonishing attacks” from Epstein’s lawyers, which included Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz, according to Coulter. Eventually, Epstein agreed to plead guilty to a state charge and received a light sentence.

      She then reported that some of Epstein’s victims were suing to re-open the case and breach the no prosecution agreement, a process that she stated had been underway since 2008. And “the new news that brings your favorite topic into this, Bill Clinton, is Jane Doe 3 and Jane Doe 4 come forward, and their allegations involve Prince Andrew, one of them, Jane Doe 3, Alan Dershowitz the lawyer, and Bill Clinton, of course,” although she pointed out that these were just allegations, but that it was not a frivolous case.

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    • Just speculating. It's kinda fun.

    • This answers my earlier question. Bill Clinton cut off contact with Epstein in 2005.

      Anyway, lawyers stumbled across the phone numbers and email addresses for Bill Clinton when they were researching Jeffrey Epstein’s personal records. However, several documents also show that Bill Clinton cut off contact with Jeffrey Epstein in 2005, which means that he probably realized the extent of Jeffrey Epstein’s depravity and realized he had too much to lose. In fact, sources have revealed, “The documents clearly show that Clinton flew with Epstein and then suddenly stopped, raising the suspicion that the friendship abruptly ended, perhaps because of events related to Epstein’s sexual abuse of children.”
      2005 was also the same year that Jeffrey Epstein was first arrested for receiving an ‘erotic massage’ from a minor, a.k.a. several young women stepped forward and claimed that Jeffrey Epstein abused them. Whether those particular accusations were accurate or not, enough people came forward about Jeffrey’s general creepiness that Bill Clinton probably had no choice but to cut contacts. Now, if only Prince Andrew could retroactively go back and NOT pay for underage sex, or at least, cut ties with his BFF Jeffrey Epstein. He’s paying the price now, even though Bill Clinton is once again walking away Scot-free.

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    • Coverage by the BBC:

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    • I thought that the defamation suit against the Dersh was by the two lawyers only, but it seems that Jane Doe #3 is also suing the Dersh for defamation (unless I am misunderstanding something here).

      Duke of York's accuser Virginia Roberts sues Harvard law professor
      Roberts is countersuing Alan Dershowitz, a retired Harvard law professor, for defamation

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      Imagine the courtroom battle between the two as she accuses him of rape to his face!

    • I am not sure that it has nothing to do with Israel. Look at the list of potential blackmail targets from Epstein's black book. They were all in a position to help Israel. Even Mick Jagger refused to cancel his concert there. Arm twisting after some illicit kiddy sex?

    • Given his recorded performance to the media, the Dersh's goose is cooked on this one. One bridge too far...

    • He is just feigning pleasure to be consistent with his bluster to date. Let's see who has the last laugh. My bet is on the two lawyers.

    • Good point, Sean. I agree with your assessment.

    • Uh oh! Epstein is furious! Oh my!

      Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, who is accused along with the Prince of having had sexual relations with Roberts, told the Guardian that he had spoken with Epstein who is reported to be "furious that they're picking on [Dershowitz] and the Prince". He vehemently denies the accusations against him and said he plans to sue Roberts and her lawyers for defamation.

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    • Seems he died after 6 months bout with cancer.

    • Here is the defamation lawsuit filed against the Dershbag:

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    • Yeah, in the CNN interview, the Dersh called them both "sleazy" and said that Brad's partner was in prison for 50 years for trying to sell the Epstein details. He claimed that the two lawyers and Jane Doe #3 sat down together and conspired to smear the Dersh.

      I thought that was a pretty stupid strategy for him to take at that time.

    • It would be useful to know when Clinton's visits stopped.

    • @ lysias

      Your post in the previous dershbag thread about the death last week of Epstein's housekeeper raises eyebrows! That was awfully convenient murder by natural causes when his testimony would have been invaluable. Was it natural causes?

      EXCLUSIVE: Houseman who cleaned pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s sex toys and feared he would make him ‘disappear’ takes billionaire’s secrets to the grave after he died just last week: revealed that Rodriguez kept a black book of Epstein’s contacts — which he referred to as ‘The Holy Grail.’ or ‘Golden Nugget.’ The dozens of entries included contact details for A-list names including former President Bill Clinton, Mick Jagger, Donald Trump, Earl Spencer, Barbara Walters, Henry Kissinger and at least three members of the Kennedy clan.

      If this Daily Mail report was the source for the New York Daily News story, it’s worth pointing out that Tony Blair’s name is now missing.

  • Pro-Israel Congress members threaten aid cut-off in response to Palestinian ICC bid
    • Here's hoping that we hear about some sexual perversions by these same congress critters in the Dershowitz dragnet and then see them scurrying for cover.

  • 'It is time to make it costly for Palestinians,' Ross warns in NYT; and readers reject his argument
    • How could we have placed him in the role of peace negotiator with Israel, and with a straight face claimed that we were fair and balanced? The whole world is laughing at us, and deservedly so.

  • How Salaita’s critics have distorted the Salaita report
  • Israeli settlers attack US consulate convoy in the West Bank (Updated)
    • LOL!

    • There must be a list of words that the state department uses to mitigate any offenses by Israel, e.g. "concerned", "unhelpful", "working with", etc. These words are exclusive to Israel and seldom used in conjunction with the actions of any other country.

  • Dershowitz named in lawsuit alleging abuse of underage sex slave
    • No, there was a glitch in the MW site this afternoon (Pacific Time) and all the comments I had posted during the previous 15 or so minutes all disappeared.

      The site was inaccessible for a little while. I thought it was a DDOS attack by the Dersh's henchmen. It would be great if Adam or someone could confirm if that is what happened.

    • Thanks Pixel! :-)

      I had posted a reply before, but it appears to have disappeared.

      I am enjoying my first vacation in over 5 years, so I have some time to kill. This event has caught my interest, not only because I detest the contemptible Dershbag, but also because this has the potential to blow the lid off of the ring of villains that are entrapping and blackmailing our government using sexual perversion as their tool of choice.

      My hope is that in the weeks ahead, some high value individuals in our government will be exposed as having been blackmailed this way, and then all the other rats will scurry for the doors, and in the process, nullify whatever influence AIPAC and others have on our congress. That would bring about a sea change in American life as well as on the life of all those suffering abroad because of them.

      Here's hoping...

    • I seem to have lost a bunch of comments as well as replies to different people. I am going to have to try to recreate from memory.

    • Did MW crash? I seem to have lost a bunch of my comments...

    • Rats leaving a sinking ship!

      David Cameron has refused publicly to support the Duke of York in the wake of allegations that he “sexually abused” a teenager.
      Asked about the controversy for the first time since the claims were made last week, the Prime Minister would only say in a radio interview: “I'm not going to make any comment on it. Obviously, the Prince has made his own views very, very clear, and I think I'll leave it at that.”
      Mr Cameron’s comments are a marked contrast from his reaction when the Duke’s friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted sex offender, first got him into trouble in 2011.
      On that occasion the Prime Minister made it clear the Duke retained his full confidence in his role as UK trade envoy. Mr Cameron’s spokesman said at the time that the Duke was “doing an important job” and that “we support him in his role as trade envoy”.

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    • In case we forget, there are currently 4 Jane Does in this case - only Jane Doe #3 has revealed herself and her claims. We don't know what damage the other 3 Jane Does can do.

    • Looking at the coverage in the worldwide press, the US papers have only passing coverage of Randy Andy, and more coverage of the Dershbag, while the papers outside have it reversed, still giving the Dersh some coverage. The papers in Israel have more coverage of the Dersh than of the prince.

      At least thats how it seems without any scientific measurements.

    • Slim to none.

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