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@ AMerican,
side note: with a country that spends more time and energy going after 'leaks' instead of going after the culprits, what else did/do you expect?
side note: it's also great to see that, next to being in great physical shape, our finest in uniform truly 'swerve and protract' when it comes to the 'other whites.'
Can we drop the charade of Israel pretending it wants anything else but Eretz Israel? That veneer has come off years ago.
thea lobbyThe NYT honest about
Israel,abusive rabbis,meth labs,Palestine,Cast Lead,Rachel Corrie,hunger strike,USS Liberty, Britney Spears.Q: a liberal Zionist
R: There's no such thing.
@ Fredblogs,
Dude, wtf are you saying? This means 'our' Arrow
windmissile shield is worthless too. What are 'm Eyrabs gonna do with this kinda info, eh? Loose lips sink ships and lost minds...errr......uhmmm....Unfortunately link to atimes.com
link to atimes.com
Q: Israeli director Guy Davidi said that BDS worked in South Africa but now everything is different, for global material reasons—anyone who buys an HP printer is complicit in the technology of the wall, so why single out Israel?
R: Anyone who bought paint before 1940 was complicit in the technology developed at IG FArben [you know, the company that drew its workforce from the Auschwitz camps], so why single out the Nazis?
Kudos to the Palestinian [dead and living] heroes. Big thumbs down to Guy Davidi.
@ Keith,
In essence it's all about words and phrases. Don't grab a big brush and start painting, otherwise you'll never be a da Vinci, Michelangelo or Rembrandt.
@ jamiesw,
Q: we should want to appeal to a mainstream public
R: That's pretty condescending and who has elevated you to hover above the 'mainstream public?'
As far as I'm aware, I'm part of that as well. Aren't you?
@ HarryLaw,
Q: it is frustrating for him to hear some people in BDS [ in his opinion] taking those same wrong steps that he took when he was young and naive
R: Where I come from that's called a 'learning curve.' Do you really need any diktat from the elders to be right?
@ Keith,
Q: Finkelstein is making a critique, not attacking BDS.
R: Finkelstein said the BDS movement is a cult. @ link to israelnationalnews.com
I don't see that as a critique.
@ OlegR,
If you're a man of your word, I stand corrected.
@ OlegR,
link to youtube.com
@ OlegR,
Whatever you said before this line might be your true thoughts, but that particular line doesn't cut it based upon everything else you've said. The good thing about history is, it can't be wiped out. Your proven record says so, thus 'What a sad joke at the expense of the Palestinians.' might be true, but you don't give a f*** one way or the other about Palestinians [see track record @ link to mondoweiss.net.
@ Avi_G,
First Noam Chomsky and now [lately] Norman Finkelstein. It's kinda hard/tough to see/watch/witness people you admire for their intellectual accomplishments and stance, jump the shark [for no apparent reason] and become unrecognizable aliens of the sixth kind. However, the individual freedom of thought prevails over everything else [no matter how sad the outcome].
@ OlegR,
Q: Al Gor
R: Is that a character in one of Star Wars' extended deleted scenes?
This should read:
[ex-]Americans
forin Jerusalem@ proudzionist666,
Q: attempted infiltration.
R: link to current.com
@ OlegR,
Your proof, evidence and provided links are truly stellar and render Annie's indictment... uh .... er .... cough ... cringe ... uh ..., you know?!
@ OlegR,
What would your babushka say when you talk like this?
Hi Annie,
side note: When I look at a person I ask myself a single, simple question: 'If this person had one, would you buy his secondhand car?' In Obombers case that's a resounding 'NFW!'
side note: why doesn't Bibi play a more prominent role in the Syrian conflict? Has what transpired in Iraq taught him a lesson?
Meyers Blitz-Lexikon (Leipzig, 1932) divides “Europäid” types into: Nordic race, Dinaric race, Mediterranean race, Alpine race, East Baltic race, Turks, Bedouins, and Afghans. Take your pick, I'd say.
@ Samuel T.,
Q: the UN declared Israel as a Nation
R: Who gave the League of Nations the right to declare any piece of a land a country? You set foot onto non-native land, and in layman terms that's called 'an invasion'. Historically, every group of people has resisted such 'act of aggression.' The natives then had the audacity to shoot arrows or worse, real bullets at the invaders. But we kicked them in the butt and now they're down and out. We won. Any victory on your peripheral horizon any time soon or do we have to witness this 'live-pest-control' for a while longer?
@ Taxi
Days? That would've happened overnight!
link to youtube.com
Q: "If you consider what they have lost and what we would do under similar circumstances, losing our land and homes -- you would have to say they have shown great restraint."
R: Maybe since we've had the opportunity to oppress others [past 60 odd years], but thousands of years of history prove otherwise [we showed restraint and moved on or to other places and didn't put up a fight].
@ Keith,
link to atimes.com
Fortunately you seem to have all the answers.
@ American,
Q: However I don’t believe Israel’s goverment is at all rational.
R: My thoughts as well and with an 'unstable friend' at your side, who knows what happens next?
@ Keith,
I don't profess to fully understand the intricate fluctuations in [worldwide] economic systems, but I remember back in the day when the 1973 oil crisis meant all our Keynesian theories went right out of the window. Personally I think you do what most westerners do and that is to think 'we' are the unbeatable bad/good boys on the block. History is littered with the ashes of bad/good boys. Have a look at what happened before us @ link to en.wikipedia.org
Debt isn't a good thing and being strong based on debt means you're actually weak. Living in a bubble is an unsustainable situation on the long run.
@ RoHa,
side note: perhaps the following would be a good plan? link to youtube.com
@ Keith,
You make it sound all very easy. In my humble opinion it's a tad bit more complicated than what you portray.
link to washingtonpost.com
Countries nr. 1 & 2 are interesting link to huffingtonpost.com
Today its 78 link to businessweek.com
link to washingtontimes.com
link to articles.cnn.com..libya.syria_1_libya-syria-president-bashar?_s=PM:US/20061113-121539-3317r/
link to suntzusaid.com
@ Citizen,
this might be a side note: Friday China and Japan started to deal in their currencies [yuan and yen] directly, cutting out the usual swap into $ first. With a current trade volume of $440 billion and growing that's a hefty sum. Furthermore, I don't think Russia and China will allow anything to happen beyond the usual hot air and sabre rattling. The US' decline is heartbreaking, as the wheels are coming off, but as it refuses to act as a responsible nation, I've stopped giving a rat's ass. Thus, I don't think we're about to face WW III.
@ HarryLaw,
Profiteers are not interested in the pain and plight of those at the receiving end of our 'justice from the sky' US-R-War program. Japanese soldiers were shot for water-boarding GIs. Germans were hanged for crimes against humanity. It's good to be victorious and the ultimate winner. The fact that it now is made to look like the US started this cyber-warfare against Iran would be laughable, if it weren't for the seriousness of the crime. Everyone knows who's behind this, but not everyone has the guts to say it out loud.
@ Hastage,
Thanks. Your thorough research and provided links are appreciated.
@ Woody Tanaka,
34 US sailors have been patiently waiting for justice to be served for over 40 years now. As long as M.J. Rosenberg and the likes of him parade around as new-born Jews and nothing's done to assure that the perpetrators are brought to justice, don't expect anything [right] from that spineless creature widely referred to as the 'US government/congress.'
I talked to this Polish lady, a devout nun, a long, long time ago. She'd been interned/locked up/jailed/set aside/fill in anything PC in one of the Auschwitz camps for two years. Despite the fact that she'd witnessed and been exposed to the same atrocities and heinous acts as her Jewish counterparts, after it was all over in '45 she found out she couldn't claim to have been part of the holocaust. Her suffering was somehow different.
If anyone still likes the US and Israel as the lands of milk and honey, good for you.
@ Taxi,
side note:
Q: I’d rather have an armpit full of writhing fleas...
R: You aren't Stephen King are you [the nightmares just keep piling up, thank you very much]?
Q: Madonna told Tel Aviv- “when peace comes to Israel it will come to the whole world”
R: That explains the killing of peace activists by IDF stormtroopers.
Iranians died to protect Kabala or get there. midonue thought it was a hat. Crap! Did I just say that with my mouth full?
Q: God forbid, I was not talking about people or comparing them to people.
R: Oh, c'mon! Acting like a retard doesn't mean everyone else is. Infiltration is done by people, but by comparing infiltration to cancer I don't mean people are cancer...
cringe, cringe, cringe...
Sometimes the underdog can and will win link to funsterz.com
Q: ... a young filmmaker killed Monday in Homs-- by Syrian government shells.
R: I'm very sorry about the untimely loss of yet another young life. However, with so many players in this evil game I'd be very reluctant to blame one side or another without concrete proof. See result of google search about recent bombardments of Homs link to google.com
or
link to aljazeera.com
Killing and murder are despicable acts of violence, regardless who does it or where it's done.
side note: I have to admit that that title '5 broken cameras' is more powerful and has way more impact emotionally than I thought when I read it the first time. Anyone dis/agrees?
@ seafoid,
The way I see it that all 'm lil' tadpoles are joining forces now and the wave they'll make will wash all that's bad back into the ocean [Kohmeini's speech translated into Chinese, then back into Japanese and finally into English]
The wonderful west and its impeccable democratic track record [sigh] @ link to en.wikipedia.org
@ seafoid,
Do you mean 'selbstverständlich'?
@ Seafoid,
In Japan they've a sect that wears fluffy rats. They claim to be the lost 13th tribe...
"Come and see! The Burning Bush jr.. Our one and only Coin & Able phone company, Tungsten nails that'll keep you stuck to a cross for ever. The parted sea; red to the left and dead to the right. IKOAH where Sweden's manufacturing giant has teamed up with a local boat builder. We have it all. Come and see, come and see! The writing's on the wall."
@ American,
Have a look at PLC rootkits, SCADA and Siemens. Perhaps that will give you a bit more insight.
@ WInnica,
Q: demographically, most of the world’s 7 billion people probably don’t much care one way or the other.
R: "So sometimes things are ahead and sometimes they are behind;
Sometimes breathing is hard, sometimes it comes easily;
Sometimes there is strength and sometimes weakness;
Sometimes one is up and sometimes down.
Therefore the sage avoids extremes, excesses, and complacency." -- Lao Tzu
Only fools believe they're invincible, untouchable and will be held unaccountable. Once you step out into the world, it will scare you and you'll keep your Israeli passport or your Jewish identity out of sight.
I like the Chinese way link to taipeitimes.com
@ German Lefty
side note; is that why you ate ['Ik bin ein Burrrliner'] JFK?
I would like to argue that the [US] Jewish community at large [minus the exceptions] should start to worry about all those stories being printed about the unprecedented influence attributed to said various [US] Jewish communities.
Example 1: The prospects for agreement are not likely to improve before that meeting, however, mainly because of an inflexible US diplomatic posture that reflects President Barack Obama's need to bow to the demands of Israel and the US Congress on Iran policy. Link @ link to atimes.com
Example 2: The American media are frightened to death of CAMERA, which wields inordinate influence on news coverage in this country – a situation mirrored at the governmental level, where the Israel lobby [AIPAC - DR] exercises a virtual veto over US policy in the Middle East. Link @ link to original.antiwar.com
Example 3: CAMERA [Committee for Accuracy in Media] Link @ link to camera.org
Example 4: DEBKA Files "Vladimir Putin, after taking stock of the early days of his third presidency, concludes that Moscow’s handling of the al-Houla massacre and Syria’s ongoing collapse into civil war will go down as a Russian foreign policy failure. He personally comes out of it as the patron of a bloodthirsty tyrant. He has quietly ordered the Russian arms ship Professor Katsman to leave the Syrian port before unloading its cargo. Putin is now taxed with determining his next steps on Syria." Putin told us personally! Link @ link to debka.com
@ CloakAndDagger,
Despite the fact that I'm the anti-christ of politics, I have to agree with your assessment/s. From the get-go I've told everyone Obama wasn't the messiah he was made out to be [way before he got elected]. After all that has transpired since he took office, nobody should vote for this or any other Democratic or Republican clown. There's a reason why Ron Paul is marginalized and I think he'd be better of running as an independent. When youngsters and the military are interested in this guy, I'm listening, that's for sure.
Hi Aniie,
Q: Military strike on Iran would ‘calm nerves in the region’
R: Yeah, those freedom-loving, women-friendly Wahhabi critters are pretty darn nervous with all those spring events erupting all around them. Fortunately the west turns instantly blind when something happens in those [non-Iranian/Syrian/Afghan] regions.
Hi Annie,
This may seem to be a side note, but as I got the information off of a trusted source I'd add it to the mix [and let you judge whether it's relevant or not].
link to haaretz.com
The one Israeli victim was found with 5 passports on him [you won't find that in this article].
2 Israelis arrested and convicted in 2004 [also NZ] @ link to americanfreepress.net
Seeing is believing..., until you watch magicians and people who think they're magical.
Hi Annie,
WaPo @ link to mediaowners.com
Donald E. Graham @ link to en.wikipedia.org
Surprised Donald is Jewish?
Q: ... one involving snipers with silencer-equipped rifles
R: only MSM refers to a marksman as a 'sniper' and never mentions it's about a team [numbers vary depending on where you're enlisted]. Silencers? Seriously?
The UN should set up shop in Antarctica, so everyone stays cool and nobody can tell anyone else not to be welcome. Every country gets equal voting rights and--
Yeah, I know. When hell freezes over.
@ American,
That's not fair. A 'moral prostitute' bending over backward to the point of snapping and not one of those hard-nosed leaders appreciates the effort? Darn, they might as well have had meaningful discussions in Baghdad [the irony of Iran talking to the P5+1 -149 in Baghdad is mind-boggling, to say the least]. Oh, well, there will be another in Moscow or Beijing if that doesn't work out either.
@ HarryLaw,
side note: when former president Carter visited Israel after the publication of his book 'Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid' the Israeli government [and/or its services] refused to provide or assist in providing any 'security.' That's because they couldn't think of a bigger 'F U!' ploy.
@ Fredblogs
What's the difference between you and a holocaust denier?
"In 1983, French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at 1.613 million dead, including 1.44 million Jews and 146,000 Catholic Poles.[80] A larger study started later by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate 960,000 Jewish deaths and 140,000–150,000 ethnic Polish victims, along with 23,000 Roma and Sinti,[81] a figure that has met with significant agreement from other scholars.[82]
After the collapse of the Communist government in 1989, the plaque at Auschwitz State Museum was removed and the official death toll given as 1.1 million. Holocaust deniers have attempted to use this change as propaganda, in the words of the Nizkor Project:
Deniers often use the 'Four Million Variant' as a stepping stone to leap from an apparent contradiction to the idea that the Holocaust was a hoax, again perpetrated by a conspiracy. They hope to discredit historians by making them seem inconsistent. If they can't keep their numbers straight, their reasoning goes, how can we say that their evidence for the Holocaust is credible? One must wonder which historians they speak of, as most have been remarkably consistent in their estimates of a million or so dead... Few (if any) historians ever believed the Museum's four million figure, having arrived at their own estimates independently. The museum's inflated figures were never part of the estimated five to six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, so there is no need to revise this figure.[79]" @ link to en.wikipedia.org
Like to toss a few more numbers around?
Iran faces harsh words
Iran faces worsening sanctions
Iran faces demands not a single western country would ever abide by or live up to
Iran faces something else as well [see map] @ link to aljazeera.com
Suppose you're be the leader of Iran, what would you do, given the above?
Q: ... means another month without an Israeli military attack.
R: Israel will not attack Iran. Israel is not used to fight against anyone that can put up a real fight. Live target practicing on hapless Palestinians doesn't count as a warfare, but an act of war and a crime against humanity.
Israel will not attack Iran.
@ Fredblogs,
Yes, and a suicide-bomber only trains once. Hey, my illustrator warp tool is broken, can you come over and take its place? Gosh, saying nonsensical idiocies is fun. I should definitely do it more often.
But congress doesn't miss the story on Israel's omnipresent 'security' scare @ link to ynetnews.com
"Well, I gotta say something to justify my $50K a month piece of the 'we're all in this boat together' baloney." - Abe Foxman
@ Dutch,
I too failed to see Krauss' message for what it really was and nearly fired a barrage of snide remarks in return.
@ American,
Are you referring to former US lawmaker Cynthia McKinney?
@ American
It's good to be 'white' when you have the right color?
@ Karl Dubhe,
You're watching the unfolding of a reverse-engineered Stockholm syndrome here...
@ German Lefty,
side note:
Likewise. It's hardly ever mentioned, but I [personally] thank everyone/anyone for addressing me in 'my' language.
@ Elizabeth,
Stop being so ridiculously funny! I hurt all over, thank you very much.
@ German Lefty,
thank-you note:
Danke schön. Mann ist niemals alt genug um sich das lernen mit etwas anderes zu konnen ersetzen, oder?
My German is very rusty, sorry if it doesn't make any sense.
@ German Lefty,
I thought I'd honor a couple of your c0untrymen [and try to stay on topic]
1) Sharondämmerung - Gotterdammerung - Mahler
2) Quassam fan tuti - Così fan tutte - Mozart
3) Für Corrie - Für Elise - Beethoven
Fun: 0 - Fail: 1
@ German Lefty,
side note:
My three favorite entries are:
1) Sharondämmerung
2) Quassam fan tuti
3) Für Corrie
@ OlegR,
side note:
Q: where does the world going to…
R: it's heading to a crash course in English grammar...
??? Did I miss something here? Since when has Israel become part of Europe?
@ Fedblogs,
The driver couldn't see Rachel Corrie [honest, really, true] link to sadaka.ie and it only took 7 years to get to his day, so what are we complaining about?
link to ccrjustice.org
@ Cliff,
Q: Why didn’t he notify her parents and why are you so interested in defending him?
R: He can't help himself. It's an automated, auto-response trigger thingy. Kind of like an IITS - [Involuntary Israeli Tourette Syndrome], but then worse.
@ CloakAndDagger,
Please see my comments below.
Hi Kathleen,
Jewish voice for Peace sends me pre-packaged emails to send off to various pundits. Would it be a good idea to have something similar here on MW? Just digitally sign and click? I'm with you.
"OK. We'll either send someone to the 'barracks for a week's worth of detention' or find Miss Rachel complicit in seeking shelter underneath the bear's belly." - IDF Mouthpiece
@ seanmcbride,
side note:
Q: And most of them are petulant, often in an infantile way.
R: And most of them are verbally flatulent in an obtuse senile way. I don't want to smell thoughts, I wanna hear 'em.
I think the only way forward is to drop being Jewish [first] and to concentrate on being human [like everyone else] and stop being/becoming anal when the word Israel is mentioned. I've never seen, met and talked to so many intelligent individuals who throw every inch of coherent thinking out of the window the moment I suggest 'we're doing something wrong here and the path we're on is leading nowhere.' Are we our past or do we want to be/come what mankind truly can be about?
Hi Annie,
side note: Talking about body language, watch Negroponte doing his bid behind Powell [if you watch this with the sound muted, it becomes real scary] @ link to youtube.com
Kristol should pack his bags, move to the 'fatherland' and patrol his new found borders himself.
Q: "This generation is growing up much more accustomed to diversity than its elders."
R: They sure do link to youtube-fights.com
I thought history was a tool that enabled mankind to correct past mistakes and plot a brighter future for all.
What's that?
My utopian passport?
Hmmmm....
@ talknic,
Q: It is a war crime to use Palestinian resources to benefit illegal settlers.
R: Not as long as you're able [and willing] to argue that their wasn't a Palestine, you keep referring to the lands you occupy by its biblical names like 'Judea and Samaria' and see [non-existing] Palestinians as target practice objects, you don't...
@ Henry Norr,
I agree with you on the agencies and Army. It's that I still can hear the thunderous rounds of applause Bibi received when all those congress critters were beating their soft hands black and blue.
@ Dan Crowther,
Team-USA-think doesn't allow for a broader perception of the world or a widening horizon. That's why 94% of the populace doesn't have a passport. Home's good. Home's sweet. Home is my land...
@ Fredblogs,
Q: I have an idea...
R: It's not nice to fart in a spacesuit...
@ Henry Norr,
Q: ...there are some real differences within U.S. ruling circles about policy toward Israel.
R: Really? How does that translate into any definable group of individuals standing up for what's right [unless you believe millionaires can be and truly are democratic]?
@ seethelight,
I just realized that being critical also entails to having to be just and fair. Although I'm uber-critical of the State of Israel's wrongdoings, I have to be/remain honest and see what the west is doing for what it is as well. We're a Fff-ing arrogant lot that loves to police the planet and have no homeys and only care about our [own] hood. Our drones kill without consequences, without justice, without everything I stand for and believe in as a human being, so Fff all that. Fff Israel and Fff us too.
'It's under investigation.' Been there a zillion times. However, when reading comments all over the web about Israel, I do see a huge change in people's perspective of the state and it's not a favorable one at all. This immature arrogance and spite is backfiring big time. Onward to the promised land... yey!
Hi Annie,
I can hear IDF fieldmarshal von Dagan explain how we should be thankful that 'although we could have fired flechette shells, our brave men and women in uniform choose not to. They opted to remain humane.'
@ Mooser,
side note: only if you put down those scissors we'll continue this conversation.
@ Kathleen,
The Untouchables - Sean Connery as Sam Malone:
Malone: You said you wanted to get Capone. Do you really wanna get him? You see what I’m saying is, what are you prepared to do?
Ness: Anything within the law.
Malone: And *then* what are you prepared to do? If you open the can on these worms you must be prepared to go all the way. Because they’re not gonna give up the fight, until one of you is dead.
Ness: I want to get Capone! I don’t know how to do it.
Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That’s* the *Chicago* way! And that’s how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I’m offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
Ness: I have sworn to capture this man with all legal powers at my disposal and I will do so.
Malone: Well, the Lord hates a coward. [jabs Ness with his hand, and Ness shakes it]
Malone: Do you know what a blood oath is, Mr. Ness?
Ness: Yes.
Malone: Good, ’cause you just took one.