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  • 'NYT' must think it has no Amish readers
    • I'm actually sitting at my computer laughing Giles. I don't know how I explain the increased rate of shows about Amish. But I know that your theory - people were mad that Amish leaders forgave a murderer of 5 because it makes zionists look bad for their reaction to the holocaust - I mean, I don't even know what to say. I'm done talking about this. Can't tell if you have a heart filled with hate it if you're just not very bright. Either way this is a pointless conversation.

    • Giles - you're saying that recent television shows that tease the Amish are part of a revenge ploy by zionists mad over the fact that some Amish leaders forgave a murderer in 2007? Dude, what?! You really believe that???

      Anti-Semitic conspiracy so far fetched it's almost comical. You're very lost my friend.

  • Shmuley Boteach taunts Palestinian solidarity demonstrators in NY
    • Straight from the horse's mouth:

      "I started saying “Down with Hamas which allows honor killings of innocent Palestinian women. Down with Hamas that slaughters innocent Palestinian gay men. Down with the Palestinian…. ” and I was about to say “… Authority for refusing to go to elections in 10 years and creating a dictatorship, robbing the Palestinian people of their freedom” when I saw that someone was filming me on the Sabbath."

      Rabbi shmuley is awful but he's a celebrity, and he's clearly not actually out in the street saying 'Down with (an entire nation of people)', even if he might deep down wish it. This is the tiniest, most insignificant concession imaginable. Shmuley's actual quotes are more than incriminating enough, don't smear him with what you're all smart enough to know are misquotes.

    • Quoting Shmuley as saying "Down with the Palestinians" is intellectually dishonest of the Adalah article's author. Shmuley is a despicable person with a lot of hate in his heart, but no, he wasn't chanting "Down with the Palestinians" in the street. He quite clearly cut himself off mid sentence. Attributing that quote to him actually amounts to a smear, in my book. Why resort to those tactics?

  • NBA owner Sterling reportedly sought to justify his racism by citing Israeli racism
    • anti-black bigotry. Not anti-arab or non-jew bigotry. We agree that he is a vile, racist man. He is fixated on skin color. If he is a zionist, it seems to me to be secondary to his generalized racism

    • Ok so you're doubling down, still without any evidence.

      The anti-black bigot contingency in this country consists of some zionists, sure, but it also has its fair share anti-semites, as well as plenty of people with no real opinion on jews or israel. Do I really need to produce a list of examples of anti-black racists who are the opposite of zionists? Why do you assume that this one in particular is a typical zionist"?

      Why is it necessary to put forth these weak attempts to connect all forms of evil back to zionism? We already have truth and justice on our side. I maintain that your original comment is an overreach, and unhelpful.

    • zionist? do you have a source for that? when was the last time you heard a zionist concede that blacks are treated like dogs in israel?

      Sterling is a racist bigot. To call him an "example of a zionist racist bigot" is an overreach, and useless.

  • Bridgegate 2.0: Israeli tech students manipulate traffic patterns
    • My reading of this is that these students brought to light a potentially dangerous defect in these types of systems. It would have been preferable for them to not actually affect traffic on the ground, but i doubt they would have caught anyone's attention without doing so.

      Their little stunt ought to spur Waze and other similar companies to fix these flaws before they get exploited by actual bad guys (eg. common criminals, terrorists, politicians, etc.).

  • Why I didn’t make it to Gaza for International Women’s Day
  • Interview with Roger Waters: 'It's a duty for artists to speak out'
    • Indeed, over the years, many pro-US Arab dictators let it leak officially and unofficially that their US diplomat friends have told them time and again how much they and "America" support the Arab world and the Palestinians were it not for the influence of the pro- Israel lobby (sometimes identified by the American diplomats in more explicit "ethnic" terms).

      While many of the studies of the pro-Israel lobby are sound and full of awe-inspiring well- documented details about the formidable power commanded by groups like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and its allies, the problem with most of them is what remains unarticulated. For example, when and in what context has the United States government ever supported national liberation in the Third World?

      Massad is talking about US diplomats and decision makers, not musicians, and perhaps I should not have assigned to him a position that he didn't explicitly take. Nevertheless, I think Massad's point holds when applied to the type of people Waters is talking about. "I would totally support those brutalized Third Worlders, but that pesky Jewish lobby is in the way. Ohhhh well!"

      Basically, I wish Roger Water's friends were more like Roger.

    • "I promise you, naming no names, I’ve spoken to people who are terrified that if they stand shoulder to shoulder with me they are going to get fucked."

      I, for one, have stopped accepting that excuse. Roger, maybe your friends don't actually care about Palestine as much as they tell you they do. Joseph Massad would probably agree:

  • Glenn Greenwald brings facts and reason to 'Real Time', ruins Bill Maher's night
    • I love it. Especially the part at 8:58

      Maher: "Not recently"
      Maher: (sees the look on Glenn's face)
      Maher: (in his head: "I immediately regret that decision.")

  • 'You live or die based on your support of Israel' -- Christian Zionists are no nightflowers!
    • Question for fellow commenters: When politicians like Lindsey Graham (ie from states with no Jews but where CZs can swing an election) kiss up to Israel to no end, think they are more concerned about getting noticed by Jewish Zionist donors or Christian Zionist voters?

  • 'Birthright' goes to Lebanon: Israel admits popular tourist attraction is located on Lebanese land
    • I could definitely sense a heightened Jewish nationalist pride at the end of my trip. In the year since, that has in large part faded (i've kept up with/ kept an eye on many via facebook). Still, almost all of my trip mates will be more reflexively supportive towards Israel, barring some major jolt. Granted, n = 40, i can't really speak to larger trends.

      Incidentally, the "4 war veteran Jew" who gives a speech at that Kibbutz is a racist facist lunatic. That was actually one of the more satisfying days of the trip for me, as many of my companions were clearly repulsed by him (and hopefully by his message too).

  • Hagel offers himself as secretary of Israel's defense
    • Anti-semites must be struggling to contain their glee over today's proceedings. As an american jew, i feel a little bit less safe today than I did yesterday.

  • Racism thriving on the streets of Tel Aviv: 'Out with the Africans'

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