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  • Hillary Clinton expresses alarm for Israeli Jews, and not one word about Palestinian victims
  • Israeli gov't used my image for propaganda purposes without my consent
    • The person in the photo says it's false, that that is a smile of nervousness and fear but she's Palestinian AND a woman so obviously Jon knows better. Zionist mansplaining is so much more believable than lived experience.

  • Leading American writer Abulhawa is denied entry to Palestine
    • The state of Israel does not have th right to deny entry to land that is not Israel.

    • Susan probably didn't want to enter Israel either. She crossed the border at Allenby which is not in Israel and was heading to Jerusalem, the best bits of which are not in Israel.

  • 'What is your religion?' question surprises two American visitors to the occupation
    • Have you ever been to the West Bank or Jordan Jackdaw? There's no requirement to wear a head covering in either of those places, both of which I have travelled widely in and spent a lot of time in. The ONLY places I ever covered my hair was when I went into a Mosque (including Ibrahimi like where this photo was taken) of course, I also modify my usual preferred dress when I go into a church when I am home in Melbourne and when my husband attended a friends father's funeral recently he wore a kippah.

      It's called respect.

  • Professor Salaita was fired for disagreeing too vehemently with Professor Nelson
    • Can you provide an example of anyone who actually said she should face a lifelong employment ban (as opposed to someone saying they personally won't pay to see her act) or that she should be tried at the ICC for pillage?

  • 'We are all Palestinian'
    • Protests in Melbourne, Sydney & Brisbane and a number of smaller cities. Kim Bullimore, who I beleive has written for Mondoweiss in the past has a number of photos on her blog of the Melbourne protest.

      We ended up at the Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade sticking the names of the dead to the walls. Well the hubby did, by the time we got there all the walls & windows in my arms reach were taken.

      http://livefromoccupiedpalestine.blogspot.com.au

  • How the Israeli discourse on terrorism seeks to justify blatant war crimes
  • A Palestinian defends violent resistance to occupation
    • And what does Israel do to ships that attempt to break the siege? How did it work out for everyone on board the Mavi Marmara?

      Not even Gandhi thought that non violence was the only option, nor always the more desirable one.

      "Cowardice is impotence worse than violence. The coward desires revenge but being afraid to die, he looks to others, maybe to the government of the day, to do the work of defense for him. A coward is less than a man. He does not deserve to be a member of a society of men and women."

      &

      "I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully."

    • Fine, violent resistance is justifiable. And the escalated response it provokes is also justifiable.

      No, that's not how the law, either international nor any state based legislation, works.

      Someone who is mugged has a right to resist, the mugger does not have a right to defend himself against that resistance.

      The OCCUPIED have a right to resist. The OCCUPIER does not have a right to defend itself against that resistance.

  • Will 'Protective Edge' galvanize the US mainstream, as 'Cast Lead' galvanized the left?
  • Peter Beinart demolishes Gaza hasbara
    • In 1948 I think there was a very powerful argument for a Jewish state--somewhere--in light of the Holocaust and many other periods throughout history of murderous anti-Semitism. That said, in principle the state should have been established either someplace where the people living there consented to it--probably there was no such place--or, much better, in parts of conquered Germany, where the consent of its people was entirely unnecessary.

      By this logic, after 65 years of discrimination, ethnic cleansing, occupation and murder, the consent of Israelis should not be neccesary in order to establish a Palestinian state on land that is now Israel?

      Then there's a whole lot of work to be done to establish a Romany state, a homosexual state, a Rohingya state, a Transgender state, a Female state and a shitload more states for a large number of groups who've faced constant prejudice and oppression too.

  • 'Children killed in their sleep': Israeli artillery fire hits UN school, killing at least 20
  • Video: If you voted for Hamas, Israel has a right to kill you, says president of NY Board of Rabbis
    • I cannot understand where the voices of dissent are in Israel.

      They exist. Not in very large numbers unfortunately and they're slandered, marginalised and these days, stalked and beaten by mobs of fascists.

      See Antifa972, Boycott from Within & Anarchists Against the Wall.

  • Statement: Legal experts and human rights defenders demand international community end Israel's collective punishment of Gaza
  • Israeli embassy puts Mona Lisa in a hijab -- 'Israel now, Paris next'
  • Kerry is off the Israel bandwagon
    • I've worked as a grocer clerk (though check out chick is the terminology here) and someone filling a trolley and then not buying it would not have effected me at all. I'd call one of the aisle stockers and they'd put it back. Just as they would have been doing anyway. If it happened a lot I'd probably be pulled off register to help. Bonus! less dealing with obnoxious customers. I likely would have asked the protestors to keep it up.

  • (Updated) In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza
  • Claim that Hamas killed 3 teens is turning out to be the WMD of Gaza onslaught
    • خ is a more unusual sound for most native English speakers than ح except for possibly the Scots. My Arabic is not great by any means but it doesn't make much sense for native English speakers born and raised in England, Australia or America, which covers most Isreali spin doctors, to go the effort of the kh sound rather than a sharp H which is not exactly unheard of in English (the sound that is rather than as a seperate letter).

    • Has absolutely nothing to do with ethnic origin and everything to do with making the Palestinians seem more "other" to western audiences.

      Half of the Israeli spin doctors that use it were born and raised in the UK, USA or Australia what shared ethnic quirk made all those accents pronounce that word the same way?

  • Palestinians build tunnel to attack Israeli kindergarten, Netanyahu says
    • Even with the most draconian reactionary tactics, no government ANYWHERE has completely prevented citizens doing things they don't want them to. Pray tell Jon, if you were Hamas, what exactly would you do to stop them?

  • Video: A beautiful brother went looking for his family in the death zone (Updated)
    • The way they always do. They will scream terrorist over and over again until the world is numb and gives them more money. How many massacres now? How many dead children? Again and again and again for 65 years.

  • Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja'iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters
    • Well if a bunch of war criminals said it, it must be true.

    • A battle between two grossly uneven armed groups in which the Israeli forces demolished entire blocks. Brought houses down on the heads of children. Shot at ambulances as they tried to reach the wounded.

      Clearly all this slaughter agrees with you Mahane, your English skills certainly improve when you jump in to defend Israel's more blatantly egregious war crimes. I guess #1 Mahane pulls rank in times like these.

    • Actually the figures this leftie who wouldn't eat granola if she was starving, generally sees are the ones posted by a friend who is a nurse at Shifa Hospital.

      After Cast Lead the way I heard about the figures was interviewing families who had buried multiple family members.

    • A growing number of people around the world are tired of speaking about the occupation, siege and bombardments in terms that will not upset Zionists.

      The expectation that we all share in their shooting and crying is always ridiculous but while burnt and butchered bodies litter the streets in Shuja’iyeh it is thoroughly grotesque.

      These were not poor conscripts, this was the Golani Brigade. Well known for war crimes. Which they committed in spades last night.

      If someone broke into my home, armed to the teeth & killed my children before I managed to kill them, would people call for everyone to feel for the dead killer as a human being? In no other conflict is the outright aggressor treated as a victim.

  • Palestinians celebrate report that Hamas captured Israeli soldier
    • I would not be surprised if the Gazans will opt for Abbas once the mayhem is over

      Do you know a single Palestinian living in Gaza? I'm really interested in where you get this idea that they would prefer Abbas? Or is this projection on your part?

      In response to your question: I live in West Jerusalem….

      If some redneck in the Deep South in the 1950s answered a similar question along those lines everyone would laugh. Yes you've likely met Palestinians but I sincerely doubt they've confided their political hopes with the ignorant Zionist they randomly met.

  • Israel destroys el-Wafa hospital as staff evacuates all patients
    • Wouldn't put it past them, during the second intifada they stormed operating theatres in Nablus to arrest patients.

    • No you DIDNT. El Wafa has never been accused of such a thing. They are targeting it for the same reason they did in previous carnages unleashed by the terrorist Zionist State. COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT.

  • 'We are moving from Iron Dome to an iron fist': Israel launches ground invasion of Gaza
    • Pony up a link - you long ago lost any credibility as a truthful observer.

      I have no idea what interview you saw but you certainly did not see Hamas' HQ in Al Shifa. That is a flat out lie.

    • NCINA says:
      July 17, 2014 at 6:41 pm

      I’d love to be sent to an open air prison like Aza. Five star hotels, malls, terrorist to fire missiles into Israel. You “people” make me laugh!

      No you wouldn't you supremacist banshee. Yes they have shops, but that doesn't mean there's much available to buy in them thanks to Israel's illegal siege, what is there is unaffordable to many thanks to the devastation of the Gazan economy. Nothing bought there will bring your children back to life when they are killed by one of Israel's "knock on the doors".

      As to the hotels, well having stayed in most of them I can tell you that no Gaza Hotel is five stars, it is not possible to get five stars with intermittent electricity and brackish water that is not safe to even brush your teeth with. No five star hotel requires you to bin not flush your TP because Israel bombed out the water treatment plant.

      People like you make me sick.

  • Hamas has agreed to a ceasefire, says senior Palestinian official (Updated)
    • Take your hand off it asherpat. YOUR country believes the children and other relatives of political leaders are fair game. It believes children walking home from school are fair game. It believes cops are fair game. Hospitals are fair game, schools are fair game, ambulances are fair game etc etc

      You have no credibility whatsoever when it comes to this subject so do everyone a favour and take your whinning elsewhere.

  • Sullivan and Leveretts throw in the towel on two-state solution
    • And how do you see a 2 state solution working? Do you support an ACTUAL 2 state settlement or the kind that every single Israeli negotiator ever has envisioned? A sovereign state that controls its borders or a disconnected bunch of demilitarised Bantustans?

  • Understanding Hamas
    • You're not honestly suggesting that if he lived in the OPT his home and that of his relatives would have been bulldozed are you? What of those terrorists that did live in some rank racist settlement. How many homes were bulldozed in Kiryat Arba?

    • Sigh. The where is the Palestinian Gandhi routine. Short answer is THEYRE IN ISRAELI PRISONS with lots of other Palestinians arrested for non violent resistance.

      Longer answer, name one, just ONE instance of power ceding to purely non violent tactics? India was liberated for reasons far more complex than Gandhi's non violent protest movement. There were economic reasons which absolutely do not apply here. Israel benefits economically from the occupation, they have every reason not to cede on that score. There was also VIOLENT resistance in India, quite a lot of it but the ruling class are hardly going to tell you that story are school are they? MLK and Rosa Parks had their way but the Black Panthers and Malcolm X had theirs too. No struggle for liberation has ever been won on kumbayas alone.

      Plus, what taxi said.

    • The only thing that's ever even come close to that was an apology for the Stolen Generation, and that came 30 years after the last vestiges of that obscenity had ceased. Maybe tokyobk would be placated if Hamas renounces it 30 years after Israel ends the siege, occupation & apartheid practices?

    • Any comments about the Likud charter tokyobk? You know the one that expressly denies ANY sovereignty for Palestine? The one that makes a lie of every claim they've ever made re the "peace talks".

      The one that makes it clear that the occupation will last forever. With all it's attendant crimes.

  • Not In Our Name: The Jewish duty to stand with the people of Gaza
    • So much for the “Jewish literacy” of the writer, who doesn’t bother to mention, much less call for the cessation , of the rocket fire intended to kill her fellow Jews.

      Maybe they're literate in international law over above sky god fairy story nonsense? Maybe they know that the onus is on the belligerent occupier to cease it's aggression and not the occupied. Maybe, and this will likely blow your tiny mind, just maybe they don't view everything through the lens of ridiculous tribal loyalties but right and wrong?

  • Florida Congresswoman sides with Israeli police over her own brutalized teenage constituent
    • Do you spend a lot of time whining at the Israeli government for claiming to be the voice of all Jews as if Jewish people were the Borg? For claiming that they are slaughtering Gazans in the name of all Jews?

      Somehow I suspect you don't.

    • No it isn't. Plenty of hardcore Zionists have no dual passport. Plenty of dual passport holders have no love whatsoever for the Zionist state.

      Israel would have a discriminatory attitude toward emigration regardless of the number of dual passport holders in government.

      People supporting colonisation is a problem not what is stamped on their papers.

  • Gaza under attack again
    • that would then enable gaza to be rebuilt to improve the conditions of the inhabitants, tons of sewerage is being dumped in the ocean every day.this has to be fixed.housing has to be improved.

      Will you be lobbying Israel to lift the blockade so building materials can enter? Or materials to fix the water treatment plant? Does this blowing things up makes way for improvements attitude apply to the place you live?

  • 'American Jewish voices are most critical in the world' (to end idea that Jewish lives matter more)
    • Maybe you should leave the US hop. Your support for an ethnic supremacist state would seem at odds with its values. Of course you may support a gerrymandered dictatorship of the majority and would be perfectly happy if the US called itself Christian and democratic and referred to your children as demographic threats. I kinda doubt it though.

    • If I had been born Rwandan, I would root for Rwanda, if I had been born Syrian, I would root Syrian. I was born Jewish, so I root Jewish. It is my side against your side. I value my side; you value your side. That's how war works.

      No Yonah, that's how blind & ignorant nationalism works.

      I would not support my country simply because it was at war (and seriously that implies at least some equivalency, there is none here). If my country was committing a crime, as they were with our involvement in the destruction of Iraq and occupation of Afghanistan, I would loudly condemn it and work against it.

  • Terrifying tweets of pre-Army Israeli teens
    • You don't live in a conflict zone either Hophmi so stop with the moralizing.

      You definitely don't live under a brutal occupation, which bestows much more trauma than having to run to a safe room every now and then.

      If you ever do, we'll see what YOUR reaction is.

  • 'Operation Protective Edge' begins: Gaza rocked by Israeli airstrikes as Palestinian militants shoot at Jerusalem
    • It's not my loss Mahane, it's the loss of people that the government you are so proud of are imprisoning and bombing.

      I didn't know her, I didn't raise her or love her. The people you have tortured and bombed did.

    • I actually tried to delete that one because I don't think it's a particularly helpful comment but I had just heard & I feel completely impotent and it translates to rage. So my apologies to MW folk, even Mahane.

    • I don't know about ISIS but you killed my friends niece today. Fuck you Mahane and your fake niceties. You kill children.

  • State Dep't says it 'remains shocked' by Abu Khdeir beating
  • Contradicting Israeli officials, family of Tarek Abu Khdeir says he was attacked while in uncle's Jerusalem backyard
    • wes says:
      July 8, 2014 at 3:26 am
      i watched the video,but cannot identify the guy getting beaten because his face is covered…in fact everyone in the video has his face covered

      how was the tarek indentified as the guy in the video.

      The people taking the video were neighbours so they likely recognised him before the cops started the beating. They knew what he was wearing how tall he was, how he was built. He most likely yelled before being rendered unconscious and so they recognised his voice. At the end of the video when the cops are dragging out his limp body there were people around, they recognised him. It's really not that difficult to see how.

    • Glad you find people attempting to do something about the horrendous beating of a child so LOL worthy Pat. Your parents must be so proud.

    • Awful lot like blaming a rape victim because she was walking home alone at night.

      It doesn't matter what Tareq was doing and it certainly doesn't matter what he was wearing.

      If someone needs to be arrested the police (in democracies that is) are only able to use proportional force to subdue someone. They are not allowed to punish. 2 armed men with the full backing of the state really don't need to use any force at all to subdue a slightly built teenager. They most certainly do not need to beat the shit out of them while they're handcuffed & prone and being held down by another officer.

  • 'Let's talk about Zionism,' is message at July 4 parade in Wellfleet, MA
    • I've never lived in the US as such but spend months at a time there every few years, almost always in the North Eastern States, usually NYC. Each and every time I do, I'm struck by the ignorance of the US populace on this issue. I tend to forget how bad it is in the intervening years because the Americans I talk about Palestine to are other activists or the fine folk posting here. Even amongst people who are intelligent and progressive there's this weird black hole of knowledge. The last time I was there, late last year I had just come off a trip to Gaza. I swear to god that when that came up in conversation, people looked shocked, and some even took a distinct step away from me as if any second I would scream Allahu Akbar and detonate myself.

      People in Australia & the UK are often surprised and often interested when they find out but in both those places I have never received the reaction I get in the US.

      In short, in my experience, no you'd be far from the only one who's never encountered that Citizen.

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