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  • MSM avoids central Pollard question: Did Israel trade secrets to Soviets for emigres?
    • What is CNN saying about this?

      Their David Starreporter Wolf Blitzer was quick enough and wrong enough to push Pollard on the news agenda when Obama was in Israel. (While the heckler was not referring to Pollard at all). link to
      Note that Blitzer calls the judgement "stunning", but Pollards treason is just "some" documents.

      Already in 1989 Blitzer, then working for The Jerusalem Post and a card-carrying Zionist, published Territory of Lies, downplaying the damage Pollard did.

      Before, Wolf Blitzer worked for AIPAC.

    • Lee Smith is no Seymour Hersh.

    • Citizen, as I read it: it is about Kerry's dictum: "If Congress rejects Iran deal, Israel will be blamed". Lee Smith spins this into these accusations: 1. So Kerry says that pro-Israel lobby money buys Congressional votes. 2. Kerry saying so is accusing Congress people being beholden to Jewish and Israeli interests, that is anti-Semitic..

      Quit simply, it is Lee Smith who is making (introducing) the Israel=money and Israel=Jews steps, and from there unescapable "concludes" that Kerry is anti-Semitic. All this in the opening paragraph.

      Then Lee Smith goes on to bring Pollard into his "argument". First he describes Pollard as a someone who only stole your car because you left the keys in it: it was all CIA's and Weinberger's fault and Pollard is the victim. Then, inevitably, he "concludes" that because Pollard is a Jew, those who want him in jail are anti-Semites.

      Next Lee Smith makes a sensible point about the timing (as Peter Feld notes): Obama's administration opens up talking about Pollard's release exactly now during the Iran-deal discussion, with this intended effect: while the dual-loyality issue is on the table because of the anti-Iran-deal lobbying, those calling for a Pollard-release are showing their wrong loyalty by supporting the one who betrayed his country (US) for Israel. So the tar is the same: opposing the deal and supporting the Pollard-release is anti-US. Why are you against your country?

      This is what makes it confusing: Lee Smith spins both wrong-loyalty accusations as anti-Semitism, while Peter Feld notes that it is brilliant politics by Obama: no politician can support Pollard now. Being against the Iran-deal is the same as supporting the traitor!

  • Time Warner executive moonlights as speechwriter for Netanyahu
  • Focus on Jewish Democrats as key to Iran deal raises 'loyalty' issue
  • Congress needs to stand up for American people's interest over Netanyahu's
    • I have no idea what you want to say.

    • So Beinart writes (or is it Nikles?): Israel and the Saudis [together] have a different interest [than the P5+1 countries]. For Israel and the Saudis, the primary goal has been to keep sanctions in place indefinitely in order to cripple Iran as a regional competitor.

      A bit too simple. There are some simple mind checks for this:
      - By itself Saudi Arabia does not have to fear a nuclear Iran. Never had. S.A. better keep an eye on Israel.
      - "Iran competitor", "Iran as a regional rival". In what exactly? Something economics? Conventional warfare? How is Iranian nuclear bomb "competing" with anything Saudi Arabian? A vague and cheap diversion from the nuclear threat issue.
      - Why should only Saudi Arabia care about this? Why not in this list: Bahrein, Qatar, Syria too? And more to the point: why no true neighbors of Iran in the list of two countries? Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia: all might have more reason to fear Iran.
      - When did Saudi Arabia enter this position? Some years ago maybe, but not the decades Israel is there.
      - btw, writing "Israel and the Saudis" is weirdly incongruent. Why?

      All in all, it is obvious that Saudi Arabia was dragged into this diplomatically by some foreign countries. Sure it would be much harder for Israel to be the only one from the region. That 'convincing' S.A. might well be happening during arms sales talks.

      So, saying that "Israel and the Saudis" are on the same page is "wishful reasoning" a.k.a. hasbara. Beinart (or Nikles) is still wiggling for the Israeli deal sabotage by being this simplistic. Then again, anyone writing about "nuclear" and "balance" should mention the non-NPT Israeli nuclear arms.

  • 'If we don't take out Iran,' it will reenact the Holocaust in US and Israel -- Steven Emerson to Times Square rally
  • There are 326,000 children near Tel Aviv who won't be hearing Caetano Veloso
  • Press can't justify red carpet for Oren tract and blackout for Blumenthal's 'definitive account' of Gaza
    • ivri: conflicts between Muslim groups and others.

      Says it all. And as diaspOra notes, it is insulting us.

    • While Oren say that Jews in the media are not pro-Zionist enough.

      So it is, reading Oren: "not enough pro-Zionist control, so not anti-Semitic enough".

  • Nine reasons Obama is going to win on Iran. The first: Netanyahu
  • Not everyone is allowed to have a 'Good Life in Germany'
    • Merkel’s behaviour is nevertheless an honest one.

      Not quite accurate. It is revealing her mind indeed, as in: for once, she lost her PR shield. This may also be called a gaffe: when a politician unintendedly tells the truth. All this is not "honest" as in: not lying. Let's not make it a compliment for a politician when he/she does by exception what is common for non-politicians: not lying.

      Two more worrying remarks by her exposed her mindset: she said "Africa" as if Lebanon is in Africa. And when the presentor noted quite correctly that it was not about the girl "doing a good job", Merkel snapped back that she knew that. In other words: Merkel was deliberately diverting, and did not like to be caught on that.

  • Angela Merkel makes a 14-year old Palestinian girl cry by telling her she is not welcome in Germany
    • Best analysis so far (in German): Merkels Disconnect

      link to

    • And if we say ‘you can all come here,’ ‘you can all come over from Africa [sic],’ we can’t cope with that.

      Well, in 1948 and in 1967 Lebanon, Egypt, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Jordan, Syria did.

    • Merkel could have added: and when you're back in Lebanon, we'll give Israel the weapons and support to bomb your new place. Was it Shaba or Shatila?

  • 'NYT' discovers elephant in living room: 'Pro-Israel billionaires'
    • Oren: Still, there was no gainsaying the books’ impact on the academic and policy-making worlds from which his administration’s attitudes sprung.

      Easy to believe the book was read in these circles. But how exactly did it end up in those attitudes? What was the discernable effect on actual policy and policy making? Does Oren describe this? (My bet: no he doesn't, its another smear).

  • Israel detains and deports American Jews because they are Black
    • Ben Norton ... suggesting that Israel is a white country that systematically discriminates against Black people.

      Suggesting? What else does the quote "Eretz Yisrael isn’t a country for cushim" prove? Why should anyone have go to New York to have this Hebrew word being explained away?

  • The people love the Iran deal -- to judge from 'NYT' letters
    • Thomas Friedmans wind vane knowledge:
      First he shows off that he was in the White House for an update on the deal (he tells us five times). Obama told him he did not agree with the Friedman column two weeks ago.

      Now Friedman steps back by saying: Personally, I want more time to study the deal, hear from the nonpartisan experts, listen to what the Iranian leaders tell their own people and hear what credible alternative strategies the critics have to offer. (Really, only now you are interested in new alternative strategies?) Sure, Tom: two weeks ago you knew it all without having read anything, and now it's a fact and you don't know what to say about it. Obama exposed you for what you are.

      link to

      btw, spotted this sentence construct:
      the president said: “With respect to ...” said the president.

    • Wow NYT really did change their headline!

      Not only that, it looks like they started adding "NYT Picks" that are applauding the deal. Late. (Is there a tracking available for these NYT tricks, btw?).

  • Crisis for the lobby: Clinton bucks Saban, AIPAC doesn't know what to say
  • 'We should seize it' -- Obama announces Iran deal as 'new direction' for the Middle East
    • Few NYT comments mention "Now it's time for Israel to join the NPT". But more candid, a lot of comments say: "Israel wants war, and won't get their way". Good.

  • Abe Foxman says goodbye to an America of secret Jew haters
    • hpmi: the right of Jews to define themselves, including, if they wish, as a national grouping. You forgot to add: ... at the cost of others.

  • Et tu, Michael Oren?
    • Ian Berman: Kris, Yonah is right. Lidice is not comparable.

      It IS comparable, as Berman himself shows in his second sentence ("far worse", "far less"). Maybe Berman wants to say: "it is not the same".

      Anyway, Yonah was not about comparision (he'd loose that right away, and he knew). Yonah asked: if such rhetoric is helpful?. To which the answer is: yes, Yonah, very helpful. First it shows analogy and other clarifications, second it shows reference to the same moral scheme, and third, we know that Yonah has no response. Very helpful.

    • if the anti-Israel crowd doesn’t like Oren’s book. False hoipe. It's the Goldbergs, Gordons and Wieseltiers that don't like his book. How tov is that.

      On the other hand, this site is enjoying the book. It will expose and extent the devide in US Jewry. It pays pro-Israel opinionators with their own coin: unbased smears & accusations of anti-Semitism. It shows Oren as the liar and a war-monger he is.

      link to

      Bring on the popcorn: next act!

  • 'If you challenge Israel’s security, you challenge America’s security. Plain and simple' -- Clinton
    • Isn't it common knowledge that Americans will not elect an un-authentic candidate, ever? What is her message by character? Lying is fine, swift boat subversioning, too-slick advertising, all acceptable. But seeing Hillary will produce the response: No, I'll vote for that other one.

  • Lies, smear, and two-steps -- Why did organizers really cancel the Feis?
    • an elephant in my pyjamas

      Was it in there with you, like sometimes a bug is in mine? Or did he sort of took the pyjamas all for himselves? (Was it a he?)

  • Michael Oren cannot hide his disrespect for Jewish Americans
    • Oren: Many Israelis — the world’s only Jews without a compound identity —

      Israelis are Jews? Tally one more antisemitic remark.

      Or is it a Palestinian in Jaffa that has a compound identity, stuffed upon him or her by this Israeli? This long-term two-passport Israeli Oren -- does that not count as compound?

  • Roger Waters to Caetano Veloso: 'I implore you not to proceed with your engagement in Tel Aviv'
  • Oren's memoir reveals Israel's elite is hyper-sensitive to U.S. criticism
    • Simon edited out the entire content of what Oren said.

      That's called journalism. And no, not everything was out. Oren's aim for censorship was aired.

  • Activists call on Oprah Winfrey to distance herself from Leviev over human rights abuses
    • re yonah friedman: I’m saying that maybe 25 pamphlets were handed to Israeli soldiers, [...], but not one gazan received such a pamphlet

      So he did write and publish it. Coming from yonah, I take that as a confirmation by a trustworthy source (in this case). And so he did distribute them to the IDF: judges with a gun. Why would an Israeli soldier not follow up on that moral mud? How do you know Gazans did not receive a bullet for this?

      (By the way, how can one distribute pamphlets into an actively shooting and bombing army? Can I do that too?).

  • My journey from Zionism to Palestine solidarity
  • Oren's criticism of US Jews earns his book five thumbs down: 'slinky,' 'self-aggrandizing,' 'twists reality'
  • Israeli leader turns on US Jewish journalists Friedman, Wieseltier, Remnick and Silvers for disloyalty and anti-semitism!
  • Netanyahu likens BDS to Nazi Germany
    • I am confused. Is "Nazi" supposed to be a worse accusation than "anti-Semite"? As in, in diplomacy you can only step up accusations.

  • Dershowitz spills the beans: Supreme Court's Jerusalem case impact on Iran deal
    • honpie: you believe everything Dershowitz says you state while you quote annie opening with: "He's wrong, ...".

  • Untold Stories: First-ever US Nakba Museum opens in Washington DC
    • Memory and hope it says. We are in the mental interbellum of reality then. Worth crying.

      I applaud this creation.

  • A Jewish reporter in Gaza responds to Jane Eisner
  • Notes from the Munayyer-Beinart debate
    • David Samel: Yousef did keep calm, but it was the clarity and logic of his arguments that won the day. Bolding added.

      The "but" is journalistic laziness - at best (there is no contradiction. The 'but' says: "I've let you talk, I didn't listen, now I will say what I want to say"). In this case is shows the reporter's plain bias. You should have written: "and".

      David Samel, you are insincere.

    • David Samel: eGuard, it seems to me that you are misinterpreting everything.

      That's your mental problem then. I pointed out, by your paragraphs even by numbers, and by your grammar of active/passive writing (plus, of course, that praise-all-over-the-place) that this piece again shows Mondoweiss's religious approach to this Zionist-but-hey-its-a-Lib.

      I say (and I can quote this in two & ten years): it's those "Liberal Zionists" like Beinart that are the obstruction to justice, peace and freedom. NYT fell here, MJRosenberg to follow, Peter 'Racist Apartheid Zionist' Beinart next. Don't blame me for your latency in this.

      And, of course, any professional reporter would check Beinart for his behaviour wrt the three murderous attacks on Gaza. You did not.

    • Annie,

      First of all, I thank & compliment MW for publishing my MW-critical comments.

      (Annie, you did not engage with my last paragraph. Always a testing point is: what did he/she write about & during the mass-murdering attacks on Gaza (08/09, 12, 14)? Beinart fails that test).

      Sure Mondoweiss did quote that old one from Beinart's dark mind multiple times even. But hey, when publishing 1000 articles about His Royal Liberal Zionist, there always will be five or ten quoting that. My point is that Mondoweiss has never rejected Beinart for saying so in 2010 (and he never retracted). Not even in the debate review here. Time Mondoweiss starts using his middle name: "Peter 'Racist Apartheid Zionist' Beinart". (Alli Abunimah/EI never takes him as a serious talking partner. Whether Munayyer was triggered by Ali, I did not claim and is quite irrelevant).

      MW gives Beinart the oxygen to delay any improvement. Again in this piece. David Samel about Peter RAZ Beinart: paragraph two/fifteen: As a speaker, he was impressive and occasionally brilliant. [...]. Paragraph five/fifteen: But enough of the praise (that's 4/15 of praise then. Now I'm expecting the burn-down). Par 6-7-8: nothing died. Paragraphs 9, 10, 11 'utopia', 12 'utopia' rhymes with blabla, 13 'B. is surely right', and of course 14: B. is given the initiative by Samel, even when he does not answer question. Munayyer never (never) gets this privilege of initiative/active form. Then, to conclude it, paragraph 15/15 opens with: Beinart made one of the best presentations imaginable ... (I add, vomiting: ..., still did not win a single argument, but gets his MW approval and exposure and oxygen once again).

      This MW-helps-Beinart approach should end. At last Mondoweiss did understand that it is time to distrust NYT at face value (not just Rudoren), which greatly improves this site. Now it's time to drop that free-talking, never-pay-for-an-opinion Peter RAZ Beinart.

    • Munayyer brought up a five-year-old quote of Beinart – “I’m not even asking [Israel] to allow full, equal citizenship to Arab Israelis, since that would require Israel no longer being a Jewish state. I’m actually pretty willing to compromise my liberalism for Israel’s security and for its status as a Jewish state”

      Actually Munayyer was challenged by Ali Abunimah to test Beinart for that one.
      link to

      Way too long, and once more in this review, Beinart is not told to shut up with his cheap talk. This I commented here three years ago:
      link to

      Mondoweiss's support for bladiblaBeinart, instead of calling him untrustworthy, is helping noone but Beinart. When Israel attackerd Gaza (2008/09, 2012, 2014) Beinart was not just looking the other way, he was talking about his bicycle.
      My opnion: link to

    • his [Beinart's] valuable contributions to the ongoing debate for many years.

      Exactly that explains why it keeps going on for years. And Beinart knows. After all, he does not have to pay for it.

  • 'New York Times' cites Palestinians as 'demographic' threat
    • Sibiriak: Rudoren is simply reporting

      No. She does not mention her source, she does not mention who that "outside experts" are, and she does not present any checking action. aka: a biased report.

      For this, it is her and NYT's statement.

  • First the occupiers exploit a Palestinian spring. Then 'The New York Times' does
    • NYT: [Israel] says [Israel] provides the Palestinians with more water than it is obliged.

      Wait wait. Why having to "provide" Palestinians with their own water in the first place?

  • Israeli propaganda dominates front page of 'New York Times' today
  • The crisis of the American Jewish community
    • How great and generous the the Jewish community finally, finally wants to discuss the Israel question. A lot of victims are anxious to heard what the outcome is. (Can you hurry on? They are waiting quite some time already).

      Or, better take the topic of Zionism away from that "Jewish community" right away. Ever since Book One, Zionism was at the cost of others without those others.

  • Kim Philby's last straw
  • The grotesque injustice of Obama's speech at the Washington synagogue
  • JVP to Obama: 'Shared values' means opposing Israel's systematic discrimination against non-Jews
  • International calls rise for FIFA to suspend Israel
    • The Israel Football Association was founded in 1929 (huh?). Originally named Palestinian Football Association. Today they brag that the mandate Palestine team competed in the preliminary rounds for the World Cup in Italy (1934; PFA did not qualify) with a Jews only team.

      Recent years IFA worked with FIFA to clean up and rewrite the history books.

  • Congress and state legislatures are on the warpath against BDS
    • jon s: I wonder what ...

      You could have asked.

    • Let's note that US legislators are failing the First Amendment to satisfy Israel.

    • Shalom: This goal [of Palestinian Right of Return] in effect would eliminate the state of Israel

      How silly, shalom, unless you want to say that Israel must be racist to survive, not be democratic & just. Also you are admitting that your state is created at the cost of others.

    • Shmuel, I think this is an important political attitude the pope choose. The Vatican is extremely powerful in diplomacy, their fifth colon is present in very many countries. Any politician can have and promote that second, Vatican "nationality" easily without running into trouble. These positions by the pope are plain hints for them.

      In 1978 they picked the Polish John Paul II to undermine communist USSR block and win back Poland for their church.

  • Scott Walker's foreign policy education begins w/ lesson: East Jerusalem is not occupied
    • discussing democracy and freedom.

      Palestinians in occupied Jerusalem were not allowed to vote last March, Scott, because they are not Jews. Try to square that with the constitution you're supposed to defend when you're President.

  • In Israel, racism is standard procedure
    • echino, what's unclear? David Gravell might not have know about BDS and Israeli Apartheid. Now that this happened right under his nose, he knows. Next time he is asked to work in Israel, he'll have to think about this and he can say no.

    • DJ David Gravell now knows he served an Apartheid party. Next time: boycott, David.
      [youtube link to

  • 'NYT' and 'MSNBC' leave Marco Rubio backer's Israel agenda out of the story
    • DaBakr: since apprx 90% or more Jews in the US and worldwide are professed Zionists.

      That's Jew counting. Now I don't mind mentioning & counting the expressed connecting between a chosen religion and a chosen political motivation. But others may "have a problem with that". You for example.

      It becomes muddy for a person who does not differentiate between a religion and a descend. You for example.

    • Then there is this well constructed micro-statement by Rubio: I don’t ever recall Norman Braman ever asking for anything for himself., repeated in various forms. A type of statement that breaks down into a lie when you change one letter.

      Of course, after reading this NYT piece Rubio cannot claim this ignorance any more. On top of this, Rubio shows a dangerous lack of sensitivity to the concept of "buying influence". He could start asking himself: "Did Braman ever ask or push a favour that is contrary to US's interests?"

    • lol at NYT writing: [Braman] helped cover the cost of Mr. Rubio’s salary as an instructor at a Miami college.

      Whose cost was that salary before, then? Did the college not pay Rubio?

    • False quoting, DaBakr. It says: We don’t learn that Braman is Jewish– and that he believes that .... Braman's "Jewish beliefs" can be found through the link provided. These beliefs are a choice not a descend lest you did not get that, and are expressed as a political motivation for his sponsorship.

  • Front-page attack in New York Times says BDS movement is driven by minorities' 'hostility toward Jews'
    • This is a recurring issue that does not sound right to me. Phil Weiss: [The NYT] reporters ignore all the Jews who support BDS.

      First of all conflating "Jewishness" with "Zionism/Israel" is a rhetorical setup by Zionists, and a dangerous one. Whether Jewishness is the religion or the descend does not matter in this (Though to keep thinking clear, safest ground is to treat the word "Jews" meaning the descend, which triggers all racism warnings. That's good and sane. When Jewishness is religious only, that can be made clear for further reasoning). Making Jews responsible for Israel, and claiming all Jews for Israel is racist (the anti-Semitic variant).

      To prevent practising this racism and responding to a racist trap, internalize that the words "Jews" in a topic about "Zionism/Israel" is the red flag. Check this: a proven reasoned connection is always missing, it is always a connection by association only. Treat this as trolling: do not engage. Maybe one can point to this error of logic. (You can see and test this check-the-troll in the posts these contributions. Note how the accusation of racism (anti-Semitism) is never substantiated). This about the Zionist conflating Jews and Israel falsely.

      Second: Do Not Do This Yourself, not even Mondoweiss writers. Never use someone being a Jew as an argument for or against Zionism/Israel, and BDS in this case. The logic "There are also Jews who support BDS" is just as racist: tying the quality of the argument to a descent. You fell into the trap of racism NYT and Netanyahu set up every time (and of course they don't know about their own racism, when it's about Jews).

      In short: 1. Conflating "Jewishness" and "Zionism/Israel" is racist. Always. 2. Zionists do this easily without being bothered. It's a trap and it's racist, false reasoning. 3. Do not do that yourself. Ascribing properties to a person simply for being Jewish is racist.

    • irishmoses: Trying to figure out which Israeli products were produced in Judea and Samaria seems to miss the point.

      Quite so, im.

    • Gotta love this: Abe Foxman is one of the saner voices in the piece.

      My impression is that their battle against BDS is more chaotic than solid. By the end of the year shouting "hate" is blunted, as "anti-Semite" already is. What's left then? Self-mutilation? (But in governmental levels they are working too, think TIPP).

    • Mooser, talking about Jews sans Frontieres: these years there seems less application for their good old how-to-make-case-for-israel-and-win, from 2008. (In short, it explains to argue for Zionism by claiming: 1. We rock, 2. They suck, 3. You suck, 4. Everything sucks. Don't skip steps!).

      Do you have a theory on why it is loosing usage?

  • Netanyahu’s coalition: Who’s in, who’s out
    • It also forced non-Jewish voters to vote by ethnic lines. No option available to vote "socialist" or "liberal" when you are a Palestinian. Sort of gerrymandering-by-ethnicity. (Racymandering? Bantustandering? Judaisation?)

  • As pressure rises on Robbie Williams and UNICEF over Israel gig, conflict of interest emerges between singer and NGO
    • Take another look at the picture. What is the background, a Gaza filmset in Mexico? Why the fist, Robbie? Why do these children close to Robbie Williams not look happy at all? Are these children safe in his hands?

      He knows. link to

    • Thanks for stealing this into public space ;-), just Hood. A pity I had to learn about some Israeli singer named Kobi Oz. (Maybe someone can tell him that the "it's complicated" deflection does not work any more. Instead, it's a red flag for Apartheid-excuse-ahead).

    • Tim Clark, vice president of UNICEF UK, is also Robbie Williams’s manager.

      I see.

  • Israeli army can't stop patting itself on the back for helping Nepal victims
    • The Israeli surrogate-mother industry has moved from India to Nepal, recently. After the earthquake Israel send a 747 to export 15 such babies (making a 'rescued' total of 26). Some mothers could join, but they won't enjoy a long stay in Israel of course. (Time)

  • Two videos to challenge my liberal Zionist friends
    • hopmhi: It’s a propaganda video from 1950. Could be (video in 1950?). hophni then: It does not show the 1920's and 1930's. [...] not the Jews expelled from Arab countries. Duuuuh.

      Never a film has been so true to its title. See the surprise on hoppi's face discovering this.

  • Night of horror at Ben Gurion airport for two French music students
    • Yes naivete. Google translate adds idiom:

      Excès de confiance. "Votre naïveté pourrait attirer les fraudeurs ."

      Now Jackdaw, stop making these dishonest remarks about Israeli border officers.

  • Jewish groups stand in opposition to hate speech and all forms of Islamophobia
    • I kindly request to have this posted. OT but related to islamophobia:

      Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept site (of Edward Snowden fame; boy what a stream of journalism he has) writes about the PEN/America chapter, awarding Charlie Hebdo. 6 out of 60 honorable Table Heads at the PEN gala (May 5) opt out. Worth reading why (spoiler: after the Charlie Hebdo murders, France arrested 100 people for saying "the murderers were right". Also in France, criticising judaism --aka anti-Semitism-- is illegal; a Charlie Hebdo author was fired for this years ago).

      Over at PEN rules Suzanne Nossel. Doing Clinton and Obama jobs while at Amnesty Intl and PEN.

      link to

  • Obama's role model to journalists -- Dorothy Thompson -- turned against Zionism and was silenced
    • Astonishing that she wrote it already in 1941 indeed. I did not learn that numbers of Jews went Nazi until so many years after the war. Nakba = Lidice.

    • Hophmi, how original: saying that a jew cannot be a Nazi because that's anti-Semitic. Brilliant. You made that up yourself? Ask for a a raise at Hasbara Central.

      But Dorothy Thompson actually says: Being a Nazi "appeals to a certain type of mind". Going Nazi is a choice. And a great idiom too.

      Astonishing that by 1950, everything already had been written down. From another link, Thompson: "These ports [Jaffa, Accre], however, were seized by the Jews, as was all Galilee with the result that 500,000 Arabs were displaced, in at least one village -it is charged- with atrocities comparable to Lidice." (note the subtle corret additions lik 'however', 'all', 'at least one'). And Lidice, dear hopmni, was a Nazi type of mind.

  • Non-Jewish Israelis remain faceless, nameless, voiceless in 'New York Times' coverage
    • She did find this rabbi: “Imagine if there was public transportation on the streets like on weekdays. We would not know it is Shabbat in Israel,” said Rabbi Aryeh Stern, one of Jerusalem’s chief rabbis.

      Sure this one won't create a spark any day of the week.

  • 'Celebration of ethnic cleansing is intolerable': Baltimore JVP crashes 'Israeli Independence Day' party
    • That's just an assumption then. One thing is certain: hohpmi won't protest ethnic cleansing ever.

  • Accusations of anti-Semitism roil Stanford campus as student coalition denies discrimination charges
    • Jackdaw: Then the SOCC should have no problems producing the signed contracts.

      Publish privately signed contracts? Asks who? Horwitz and her publishers like you have shown enough dishonesty to deny any future "question" being answered.

    • Keith: Mondoweiss should charge you [hohpmi] $1 for every time you call someone an anti-Semite.

      No. Mondoweiss should throw out each and every unfounded accusation of anti-Semitism right away.

    • Says Molly Horwitz in The Stanford Daily: My involvement in Hillel, ..., have nothing to do with divestment. Wrong. Hillel forbids discussing divestment.

    • Annie, was the contract-accusation made by Molly? I did not find that. The rumor was written by The Stanford Review, but not through her. It could be part of the setup.

    • I don't hear that ring. The opposite: one verifyable accusation (wrt the contracts) has been proven false. What I hear is that it is a setup. Horwitz better be careful with her accusations of anti-Semitism.

  • In defense of Cornel West's prophetic voice
    • Dyson having to invoke Lawrence Summers to make a point in scolarship: says it all about both Dyson and Summers.

      Of course, timing and reason of this character assassination are following Wests outspokenness re Gaza last year.

  • Jews of France: should they stay or should they go?
    • not sure why diaspora jews should suffer because of israeli policy

      Indeed. Tell Netanyahu to stop interfering with French Jewish life.

  • Israeli racism takes center stage at Manhattan JCC
  • Kristol frets that he walked into Obama's 'trap,' and Rubio says he'll demand Iran recognize 'Israel's right to exist'
  • Understanding the Jewish National Home
    • Then try one more time to understand. To make it simple: Restart thinking, this time without the presumption that the invading colonizers are equal to the inhabitants. Also include some reasoning on why the invaders should have country, statehood & good taken from and at the cost of others.

    • So I started reading. In the first paragraph it says, of "two peoples": their shared history Then it went Herzl, Balfour, 'Palestine Arab Delegation', etcetera, blablabla. Like reading a 1985 book all over again.

      Has this not been analysed and debunked before? Let me repeat for those new and those still under ziocane: 1. Zionism started as a political movement by Ashkenazis (that is: Eastern-European jews). Sephardic jews, black jews, and Arab jews were not involved. (side note: "Arab jews" is a common name, go google). 2. Not all Ashkenazis supported zionism. The Bund opposed it, and wanted to stay in Europe. The Bund was a major party in the Warshaw Ghetto uprising. 3. Balfour and his position was anti-Semitic: "let those jews go to Palestine, so we are rid of them". 4. Zionism and the creation of Israel should primarily be seen as a colonial enterprise: Europeans coming to occupy and steal land & resources.

      Mr. David Gerald Fincham: I am sick and tired of those like you re-pushing again that old "two people should solve it" attitude. To start thinking: throw out those Eastern European occupiers. Only then you may start asking and making "claims". Oh, and don't forget to give back the stolen property first. Until then: shut up.

  • No Palestinians need apply to program on 'Palestinian issue' at Center for American 'Progress'
  • Obama got Senate to reject 'two of Netanyahu's demands' on Iran (but the 'NYT' won't touch that angle)
    • And as an extra check there is also the "Staff Picks" from the Readers Comments. Well, not one out of 25 picked mentions Israel/AIPAC/Jewish organizations. Not one.

      However, NYT staff found this worth noting (full text): Los Angeles Mark: The Iran deal is dead. Thank God.

  • Pro-Israel group concedes that Tel Aviv bikinis can't match 'justice' as sirensong to brightest young Jews
    • I thought cherry tomatoes were part of the Zionist Historic Aspirations. Part of I said? All of it.

  • Obama's long & passionate Monday with Saban, Foxman, Hoenlein and other Jewish leaders demonstrates power of Israel lobby
    • hophmi about how the media isn’t covering the Israel lobby. It's "Jewish" all over, you've got to pull the "Protocols" card here.

      Don't let it slip, hopmi. Remember: Everything for a War with Iran.

  • Gunter Grass became 'persona non grata' for 2012 poem exposing Israeli nuclear hypocrisy
  • Video: Pressure mounts on Robbie Williams to choose between Tel Aviv and UNICEF
    • UNICEF is in bed with IDF and the Foreign Ministry, says Jpost. We must understand, without this cooperation Israel would have killed 1000 children last summer.

  • Israel could reduce anti-Semitic violence by not calling itself the Jewish state, Finkelstein says
    • With no other connection than being recent, here is Finkelstein in a Cambridge Union [UK] debate "This House Believes Israel is a Rogue State" from 1:11:50. The public was not taking nonsense.

    • Walid, always check what when you write the Jews. Usually the the be dropped.

  • French philosopher who shut down Paris BDS event as 'anti-Semitic' and one-sided will lecture in NY on 'Free Speech'
    • Walid, it is unacademic to pre-conclude (impose even) an outcome of a debate. And then forbid that debate. (and why would Said say nothing nice of Israelis? It could be his family).

    • Walid: the French Philosopher acted on her own (That capitalised "Philisopher" is Monique Canto-Sperber , but it would be better to mention her acting role as directrice). She throws around gratuit accusations of anti-Semitism by herself then. That, Walid, is the lowest grade of unacademic behaviour.

      You also describe that she cancelled because she herself opposes an academic boycott. What is she doing in an academy at all? Why should she inject her own political opinion as the required outcome of a discourse? Why would she even speak about "free speech", what does she know? Why does she say I do not take side on the moral (il)legitimacy when she just did so?

    • Canto-Sperber : ... the boycott of a State is illegal under French law, as well as anti-Semitic discourse

      boycotting "a State", i.e. any State, is anti-Semitic?

  • Who cares what Jeffrey Goldberg and Netanyahu don't like about the Iran deal?
    • Why is Goldberg granted such expertise?. Goldberg didn't even mention Israel having nuclear weapons.

      Ironic that Britain, France, and Germany are negotiating with an NPT-member state. France and UK proliferated the nuclear weapon to Israel (by f*cking around with it). And today, Germany donates Dolphin-class submarines to Israel, with which it can spread nuclear arms from Gibraltar to Goa and beyond.

  • Finkelstein on God and Dershowitz
    • plagiarism ... and Harvard does nothing.

      Harvard Dean Elena Kagan covered him and got the top job. Dersh, was that just a gift as friends do exchange or was it an agreement?

  • Now Obama needs to 'compensate' Netanyahu -- NYT pipes Israeli propaganda (Update)
  • The epic season of spinning Iran deal begins!
    • Note that Netanyahu/Israel has changed their music: not Iran is dangerous for the World any more. It is reduced to Iran is dangerous for Israel.


    • Gershom Gorenberg: Dems [...] need public backing from liberal Jews. No bell rung?

      Another Mondoweiss-supported commenter who tells Jews what to do because they are Jews.

    • MJ Rosenberg: Israel [...]. World’s stupidest Jews. (again MJ is introduced as a smart argument).

      Never ever trust a commenter who does not distinguish between Jews and Israelis (there is a word for that). Really, Mondoweiss, muddying the discussion waters this way should be thrown out by intuition, by Pavlov or by sound thinking. BTW, has the tweet been deleted?

      Note that last month his profile said "I absolutely believe there must be a Jewish State in Palestine, but within ’67 lines” - As was pointed out here at: link to He has changed that profile since, but not his leopard spots.

  • DEAL!
  • The Jewish establishment has banned these four valiant Jews. Why?
    • yonah proposes adjectives. Those should be added then:

      The blind, pigheaded, dictatorial, McCarthyite gangster who runs Hillel…Eric Fingerhut

      A matter of style. Better leave them out.

  • Philosophy prof who likened Palestinians to 'rabid pit bull' ignites protest on CT campus
    • This is how he got the Genius part in 1993 with Letterman.

    • They went missing in the Israeli Justice system for sure.

    • The Day writes, you link to: a professor's Facebook posting which was regarded as anti-Palestinian

      Tell reporter Colin A. Young: "NO. Not anti-Palestinian. Racist". Then fire Colin A. Young.

    • Yes Annie, all plausible. It's more subtle that I wrote. (More about Feb 25 anyone?). First hypothesis is that the Jan 22 panel discussion triggered a research.

      Still, there must be people who have read the Aug 11 post on Aug 12-Jan 21 and who did not faint or complaint. Weird.

      Another thread to research: in the Higher Ed interview, about Pessin: He [Pessin] posted it [on Aug 11] after a series of 10 other comments written between July 23 and Aug. 11 about Hamas and the group’s tactics and goals. Reading those preceding posts would have made it clearer that he was using the metaphor of a pit bull to describe Hamas, he said.

      Well: then bring those 10 other posts to us, Pessin! To your own defense! Or else, Khandaker, do you have screenprints?

      And this lesson for all PR/journalists: making it two 'independent' March 3 publications simultanously in the Voice is professionally great: killing the opposition's option of blaming one!

    • All fine, Annie. Glad I can add. The post is great (1000 students showing up +picture!). It's just my way to get a grab: reconstruct the timeline, who-said-what-when. I also 'found' the January/February activities that initiated this stuff.

    • I faintly remember it was "No dogs or Irish allowed", seen in England. I won't spend time googling it. Already I spend more time on this than ADL did. Q: Who said: "The Arabs"

    • Mad dogs with nukes, he meant

    • It's not just the August 11 post by Pessin, and not just a "misunderstanding" (misunderstanding of "co-specimen" of dogs, and "I agree"?)

      It was student Lamiya Khandaker who initiated the public row, publishing her letter on March 3 (see last large quote in the article). Why only six months after?

      On January 22, ConnColl had a panel discussion Making Sense of the Charlie Hebdo Attack. Pessin was in the panel.
      Khandaker quoted him saying: "How do we tolerate cultures of intolerance?", "his emphasis of hate crimes perpetrated by Muslims.". She then contacted him privately (only about or not only about his August post), which left him replying "you misunderstood me".

      It was after this insufficient replies that she went public (after private discussions from February 25, the other March 3 letter notes), and included more hateful quotes. What about "his floods of articles that specifically talk about the failure of addressing “Arab and Muslim terrorism”"?

    • The link to Inside Higher Ed is in the article, under "official statement of condemnation".

    • Pessin, who is by coincident on leave from his teaching position

      Not "by coincident", but by choice. Inside Higer Ed interview Pessin, published on March 25. It says:

      He [Pessin] decided this week to take a medical leave of absence for the remainder of the semester, partially due to the stress the accusations against him have caused.

      Note: The article is also interesting for the full set of lame excuses Pessin lists. Some were even proven false in the same article. Lamiya Khandaker's exposing letter was published March 3, at the start of the ConnColl Spring holiday (March 3 - March 22).

  • Open Hillel's big month: Swarthmore 'Kehilah' is born and a student resigns over Hillel restrictions
    • When one meets a Hillel-member student, chatting over business as usual (BDS, one-state, democracy, the weather), one can say: "How would you know? You're now allowed to think about this."

  • White House will go after AIPAC next -- Newsweek
    • About the black caucus (black congressman/woman): how come they are this independent? Is it because Obama is black (so I'm told), or are they more independent from AIPAC money for reelection?

    • Great overview. MW, please keep MJ Rosenberg out of the arguments. A Zionist by any name.

  • On Netanyahu's apology to Palestinian citizens of Israel
  • A response to Michael Douglas
    • Replied above, "If it is for what he wrote ...". In short: you ascribe him qualities because he is a Jew.

    • He's an actor. Why did he start writing his own texts?

    • If it is for what he wrote and what he life-long supported, then you should have written just that. Instead, you tied those opinions to him being a Jew. (And don't forget no one can see that, unless one has the prejudice that every Jew by definition is life-long supporting Israel etc.).

    • No. I concluded anti-semitism explicitly, with reasoning (you can read that). That is my point: you enter "is a Jew" as an argument.

    • Let's not overlook this muddy point. Douglas writes: what might have caused the man's outrage: Dylan was wearing a Star of David. That's a "might". Then, after having talked to the the man who had yelled, Douglas does not explain, not at all, what made him conclude anti-Semitism.

      Another free, unverifiable accusation of anti-Semtism. To separate anti-Semitism from political gain charades like this one, I have the rule: if it is not proven, it is not anti-Semitism. Douglas, this is not anti-Semitism.

    • Gil Maguire: In 2012, Stephen Robert, the former chancellor of Brown University and a Jewish-American ... concluded ...

      Ascribing qualities to someone's opinion for just being a Jew is anti-Semitic. If that opinion can not stand without that qualification, think about it.

    • This to by Michael Douglas: The third reason is simple demographics. Europe is now home to 25 million to 30 million Muslims ... Europe's new epidemic of anti-Semitism.

      So this is what he teaches his son: many Muslims is a cause of anti-Semitism. What a peanut-sized mind he has.

    • Anti-Zionism is frequently used as a cover for Anti-Semitism

      What does this have to do with the topic?

    • "the antisemite claims ..." - Who said otherwise? Who said anything in this? Why change topic, hophmi?

      Douglas says hatred of Israel is a cause of anti-Semitism. Even worse, he says seeing Apartheid is "irrational and misplaced". You are right in that someone like you better distract us from his non-thinking stupidness.

  • Netanyahu's victory marks the end of the two-state solution
    • Jeff, please bang your head against a wall, just once for every Labor supported war. This is plain Zionist speak: center-left (albeit Labor now pandering to the right by rebranding itself the “Zionist Camp”. Did labor ever support a Palestinian state? Repeating that is abusing other people's energy trying to understand that.

      Labor has been Zionist longer than Israel exists. No Zionist can be "left", full stop. If you are not free to see & say that, change community. Move town and turn in your political religion.

    • So now the two state solution has died. Gone. Impossible. Out of the window. Well, that is news for me. I take that for a thruth, and so it is time to promise, Mondoweiss, no one ever may declare this again on this site.

      My own news message would be: nothing has changed. Water under the bridge.

  • Who can save Israel now?
    • So this is Israel’s crisis - We've heard that before. What crisis are you talking about? Why is there a save needed, and from what? Enough of this.

      I say: the only true armageddon for Israel would be a civil war between Zionists. Until then, nothing changes, nothing to be saved, just another war against Arabs. Until then, stop 'predicting' and stop crying wolf.

      I despise all reports & reporters that proclaim "The end is near". That is just crappy journalism. You only need to write what is actually going on. (For example, that was so good about "Feeling the Hate in Jerusalem" by Max Blumenthal: no need to extrapolate, the images were clear enough). Do you think Israel can not go any lower and still function? Just wait and see. Why claim that this is the bottom, a bottom, what bottom?

      Typically, all those reporting "This is Israel definitely going down" (it is going on for years) are only speculating and fantasising. No future facts are destilled and described because that would only tie them. It is proof of bad journalism: mentioning their own fear and emotion and insecurity, but not reporting a single fact. Better start writing fiction.

    • just, how did you like the weather today?

  • Netanyahu won. Now what?
    • Maximus, there is the Mondoweiss report (Alex Kane) on the JVP congress.

      Did JVP condemn the Gaza massacre? - "Last summer’s assault on Gaza lead to a boom in JVP membership and donations, and a shift to the left among some liberal Zionists who decided to join JVP". Yep. Liberal Zionists, that is: Zionists. 'nuf said. (at the JVP home site: condemnation sure, but I feel something is missing. Does not read like a protest action, does it).

      Does it endorse BDS? "[This] was the first get-together since JVP changed its position on BDS from one of support for targeted boycotts and divestments to full endorsement of the BDS call". Like pulling a tooth.

      I too am a bit cynical about the "peace". Must have to do with that other word in there: being Jew as a prerequisite first and foremost. I predict that the Zionists will take over, just like at J-Street.

    • So he [Netanyahu] won and I have to say I am relieved. I still can not get used to the idea that more violence and injustice is good for Palestinians. No outsider should say so.

      At least this election gave proof in quotes that Netanyahu and Herzog are the violent racists they are. And nearly 50% of Israel voted for them. (Also, let's not forget that it was necessary for "Arab" Israelis to vote by ethnicity to have a vote in knesset at all). The one and only Racist Democracy in the Middle East. Vote BDS.

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