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  • Hell just froze over: the New York Times runs an article saying Zionism is racist
  • David Friedman is out of step with American Jews and dangerous for Palestinian human rights
  • Israel threatens to toss Antony Loewenstein after he asked Lapid question about apartheid
    • More later amigo, when i have more time, but first: What you tell me should sound familiar to you. "Why do I dig out minor transgressions, when there are so many far worse crimes against the Palestinians to get indignant about?"
      Recognize the irritating argument? Of course you do: It is the same as the typical zionist whataboutary.
      As long as there is slaughter in Syria etc. (other handy examples are often substituted) you are not supposed to bring up Palestinian suffering. And as long as there is Palestinian suffering i am not supposed to bring up sexism and crude language? Come on...

    • Eljay, do you realize that a woman is raped every second, and that your rape-in-the-cellar obsession is rare in the EXTREME, and nothing more than that: It may be your personal fantasy, but if I denounce that as not representative of what women really have to deal with, I am being realistic. That is the opposite of belittling what rape is. I think you owe me an apology. Show you are an adult, and just say it. It would do you some good.

    • I KNOW YOU WANT TO BE THE BOSS??! What?!!
      I thought you were just being insensitive, in your obsessive tales about women being dominated in cellars, but with this little gem out of the blue I am finally starting to agree with catalan.
      There seems to be more to this than just male obtuseness: You, apparently, read this whole exchange in terms of who dominates, and you think that that is what it is about. That is pretty disturbing.

    • I will not comment here any further.
      The only persons I really respect here, and who are worth reading, are Donald and Yakov Hirsch anyway. The rest of you are just repetitive jerks, who to whom this site is no more than a place to have pissing contests among the guys in who is 'funniest' or uses the term 'zio-bot' most frequently.
      An Annie? You bow to this crowd like a real Uncle Tom. I have thought this before, but I am saying it out loud now, for the first time (as I am leaving anyway).
      You have macho problem going on in the comment threads here. Trying to be 'one of the guys' and ignoring blatant sexism, never intervening for instance, when called it out on at least 3 previous occasions is shameful. "Grow a pair" ! (And look up the comments where I addressed that expression. Where were you then?)

    • You think I am pro Israel?!!! Just because I call you out on your sexism?
      Check out my comment profile. I have been commenting here for 10 years I think, until I got sick of the atmosphere here .

    • See Amigo? I already did that before your arrogant little 'challenge'. Maybe, just maybe, you guys here should learn to be a little less presumptious, huh? Using the humiliation of raped women all the time, as a rhetical prop, as if you know anything about what it is to be a women, or to be raped.
      Would you feel as comfortable describing the humiliation and abuse of black men (fellow males after all) at the hands of a lynch mob? And can you imagine what a black man would feel coming here and reading again, and again, and again, how their real suffering has become a little toy for white guys who have no idea what they are talking about.

      I am hoping for some introspection on your (plural) side here, but in my experience Mondoweiss comment culture is shamefully macho. (See eljay's reaction.)

    • I have wondeful idea for you eljay. Why don't you compare Israel's oppression from now on with a white lynch mob, that grabs a black man, strips him naked before the joyful crowd, emasculates him, and then hangs him for all to see.

      And this over, and over, and over again, until your black readers get really sick of it, and complain.
      See what I'm getting at?

    • Oh wow eljay, that is sooooo representative of the average rape! I bow to your superior knowledge! (First hand?) Just tell your daughters to beware of men with cellars and chains and they will be all right.
      (Lovely site, Mondoweiss.)

    • And this is stuff taken from bad thrillers. Cliche's and in bad taste. Real rape usually does not involve psychopaths, basements and chains, just average guys not knowing norms.
      Of course I will be shouted down as I am every time I comment on the mysoginy of the male clique here.

    • I am not sure that hormones are such a large part of rape. A sense of entitlement more likely. Men rarely rape women that are more powerful than themselves so hormones seem to be checked by self-preservation.

    • I am getting a bit sick of these repeated women-chained-and-raped-in the-basement comparisons. Is this a memethat is widespread in the US or something? I really do not like it.

  • 'Love thy neighbor as thyself' -- Really?
    • According to the interpretation pasted below, Jezus started out thinking one thing, and ended up thinking something different:

      " Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, ‘Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.’ But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, ‘Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.’ He answered, ‘I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’ But she came and knelt before him, saying, ‘Lord, help me.’ He answered, ‘It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.’ She said, ‘Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.’ Then Jesus answered her, ‘Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.’ And her daughter was healed instantly. "

      Did the Canaanite woman Matthew describes pass a test or persuade the Lord? If we go with the former – which is probably the more traditional reading – then Jesus didn’t really mean what he said. You know, about saying he was exclusive, ministering only to the Israelites, let alone calling her a dog. All of this was just a test, a way of bringing to harvest the faith that God had already planted in her.
      As I mentioned, this is probably the more traditional read of the story. In fact, many commentators will draw our attention to the fact that the word translated “dogs” is actually the diminutive form of the word, meaning “little dog” or “puppy.” I think we favor this interpretation because it saves Jesus from looking like, well, kind of a jerk. Instead, he’s the all-knowing faith-tester, the drill sergeant to the new recruit, tearing her down in order to build her back up again. (Maybe you can guess, but I don’t favor this interpretation. )
      The other possibility, of course, is that Jesus’ own sense of God’s kingdom is challenged, stretched, and enhanced by his encounter with this fierce and faithful woman. Maybe, that is, Jesus is serious – that is, he believes he was sent only to the Israelites – and the woman takes him on and, in fact, persuades him that something larger is at stake.
      If you go this direction, then Jesus can, in fact, learn. And he does. He learns that God’s kingdom and his mission to enact that kingdom is bigger than he had initially imagined and that it is more encompassing that he’d at first dreamed.

  • Arafat started the fires!
    • Accusing Palestinians of starting fires, and accusing Jews of poisoning wells. How come Israeli's do not recognize the similarity in atmosphere?

  • Shimon Peres, dead at 93
  • More insultingly stupid propaganda for Israel in the 'New York Times'
  • Defying Scottish law, football fans fly Palestinian flags during match with Israeli team
    • Yeah, whatever.
      In the Netherlands soccer fans from Amsterdam fly Israeli flags, and soccer fans from Rotterdam then sing "Jews to the gas". Fake anti-semites against fake jews.
      All of this is just stupid soccer tribalism: Before long Rotterdam fans will sport Palestiniand flags.

      Solidarity with Palestine? Don't you believe it. It is just choosing symbols that annoy your opponents the most: Literally EVERYONE knows about this particular conflict as it just goes on an on and on, longer than any conflict we have known in our lifetimes. So, even the dumbest of the dumb know about it. (Oooooh, am I discriminating against soccer fans now?)

  • Israeli defense minister Lieberman calls Palestinian lawmaker a 'terrorist'
    • It is a bit ironical to call Haneen Zoabi a 'lawmaker' as I am sure she was never able to make any laws. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that the Palestinian members of parliament are no more than a fig leaf, who are routinely ignored and excluded from the government.

  • Palestinians in North America: Our rent to pay
    • (This was at Richard Silverstein's blog.)

    • I read the comments by 'oh please' with amusement, and with a strong feeling of recognition. A commenter named 'Yehuda' tried to sell exactly this kind of "there is no truth, only narratives" & "progressives buy into the Palestinian narrative" stuff for a long time.
      In a way it is revealing: If you are devoted to defending the indefensible, of course you have to disqualify facts.

  • Hebron victim is buried 2 months after Israeli medic killed him, but medic's lawyers wants him disinterred
    • Yeah, A woman should never wear the pants at home! (Where do you get this outdated stuff from?)

    • I remember reading a tweet here from an AL Jazeera reporter, saying that according to the Israeli military police, Al-Sharif was not the attacker in Hebron. What happened to that story? Any news?

  • Elor Azarya, King of Israel
    • I m sure I read somewhere that the police investigation had revealed that Al Sharif was not even the attacker, but I cannot find where I read that now. Was it on Mondoweiss, or does anyone else know?

  • Israeli soldier filmed executing wounded Palestinian man
    • As I wrote earlier about this video:

      The whole video is weird. You see the two cousins strolling in a relaxed way, and the captions say they were terrorists with knives on the lookout for a victim. When they are supposedly chasing their severely wounded victim (he does not look wounded at all) it seem more like they were running in the same direction by coincidence because they turn right when the man turns left. In the last scene too it is totally unclear what is really happening:
      Watch the other little boy. Does he react as though right in front of him a boy is being butchered with knives?
      And the young woman. She does not even look at the 13 year old who is supposedly bleeding from 12 stabwounds right in front of her. And another young man just keeps shopping and does not even turn his head towards the place where the stabbed boy supposedly lies bleeding on the pavement in plain sight. Try to make 12 stabs between the moment when the boy is still riding the bike and the boys are being chased away. You can’t.
      This video just doesn’t add up.

  • BDS Victory: Security company G4S announces plans to exit Israeli market
    • I was reading an article on BDS in Haaretz, and in between there is an advertisement for Naale Elite Academy ("Every Jewish kid's dream... Free* high school in Israel"):

      It's a perfect program.
      It's in Israel,
      everyone is Jewish
      and its affordable

      It's in ISRAEL, EVERYONE is JEWISH and its affordable. Just let that text sink in... What is that ad doing in the only liberal Israeli newspaper Haaretz? I am often annoyed but this is a low.

      *(The 3 0r 4 years program, which includes full airfare to Israel at the beginning of the program, room and board, off-campus travel expenses, tiyulim (special trips), spending money, and laundry service, is fully funded by the Israeli Government and the Jewish Agency for Israel.)

      http://naale-elite-academy.com/index.php/en/

  • Video: Meet Ahmad Dawabshe, the five-year-old survivor of the Duma firebombing
    • Can you believe that in Israel it is common 'wisdom' that Palestinians have a 'culture of death'? Make them watch this video!

  • Bernie Sanders's God is a lot like John Brown's
    • "Can anybody tell me what an ‘unassimilated’ American Jew looks like? Is he or she an American citizen, or not? Is this “unassimilated” Jew outside the protection of the law? Got no access to the courts, or for that matter, the markets? Is he ‘undocumented’? His kids can’t attend public schools? Can’t travel, can’t get a passport? "

      You can replace 'American' with 'European' here, but somehow, many Americans do not seem to think so. (And I have the impression that no Israeli's think so.)

  • A totalitarian democracy
  • Jews aren't special
    • When the Jews asked God for Palestine, He started screaming “yes, yes, yes” like something out of a porno-flic, right?

      The funniest description ever.

  • Israel detains Washington Post bureau chief in Jerusalem accusing him of ‘incitement’ --updated
    • "video edited to make it seem like out-of-the-blue viciousness "

      So please explain Neil: Why wasn't it out-of-the-blue viciousness? Tell us exactly what was edited out off the video that justified pushing over a man in a wheelchair.

    • I had missed it too. It is shocking.

  • OK. We knew. So?
    • You are right. Mocking Germans with the sentence "Wir haben es nicht gewusst" was so common, but I think it was unfair. How could they know? In the Netherlands there were illegal newspapers and radio broadcasts from England people could read or listen to if they dared (it was forbidden to own a radio, let alone an illegal newspaper) and my grandparents did all that, but they told me they could not believe what they heard when the war was over and everything came out.
      They believed there were workcamps in the east, and that the conditions there were going to be bad, very bad, but they did not imagine extermination.

  • 'Other ways of being Jewish are available' -- a poetic response to expressions of hatred on Facebook
    • You are right. It is beautiful.

    • Well Marnie,
      A lot of the time the wish is expressed by angry white guys, who only exhibit an interest in women's rights when Muslim men are somehow involved.

      If you decline their kind of 'protection' (usually coming down to deporting Muslim males) you have 'asked for it'.

      Maybe we should come up with a special name for this kind of feminism, which only surfaces when Muslims are the bad guys...

    • For women there is an extra variant: Wishing for them to get raped in Gaza. The European variant goes like this: If you are in favor of taking in refugees 'after Cologne', people wish you to get raped by an asylum seeker.

  • 'Let the one-state era begin'-- Tom Friedman explains there will never be a Palestinian state
    • Inbound39, it is disingenuous to pretend that these expressions are gender neutral. If you realise what they imply (namely, a link between having strength, moral and ethical standards and well functioning male genitalia) I hope you will think again about using them.

    • My comment got lost, so here once more:
      Echinococcus, do you want to claim that "America needs to grow a pair" refers to a pair of breasts? It is stupid to deny that all these terms are about male potency or the lack of it. The fact that these expressions, which imply that women are inherently dick/spine-less exist in the English language does not mean you have to use them.

      Mooser, Inbound puts 'circumcised' between 'sterilised' and 'castrated' ("Israel has sterilised America and not only has circumcised it but castrated it as well" ) so he seems to see a connection. Go complain to him, not me.

    • And, Echinococcus, I guess "America needs to grow a pair" refers to breasts? Riiight...

    • 'Sterilised, circumcised, castrated...' You equate of lack of strength or willpower with lack of male potency. As a woman I am uncomfortable with that.

  • Bernie Sanders' spirituality is resonating with young religious 'None's
    • I am not sure about the better norms. Friends who had a calvinist upbring just like me when we were little, are now into astrology. Now, astrology isn't good or bad, it is just nonsense, so maybe this is not a good example of 'norms' but still.
      I'd rather believe in a god who thinks it is a good idea to appear in a burning bush, than in clouds of hot gas and rock that supposedly influence my fate.

  • Netanyahu responds to Ban Ki-moon's criticism of the Israeli occupation (Update)
  • Cut the Gordian Knot -- a response to Ban Ki-moon's landmark speech
  • 'Had I only known less, perhaps I would have lived here'
  • Our Top Ten posts of 2015
    • I admire Angela Merkel. She has the guts to say to the electorate what she thinks should be done ("wir schaffen dass") instead of being a slave to opinion polls about hostility to taking in refugees. Growing up as a daughter of a minister in East Germany must have been hard, and it seems to have built her character.

  • Israeli settlers at a wedding party cheer burning of Palestinian baby
  • Why my books are not published in Israel
  • Open letter to Rabbi Susan Talve from St. Louis Jews
  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
    • I am sure there are many more Israeli spies in the US at any time than just 100. Whether they knew in advane of 9/11 is a different matter.

      "...at least admit it’s sick to rejoice over terrorists targeting Western countries et..."

      Where on earth does this reaction come from?
      The Israeli gloating over 9/11 and more recently Paris makes me sick. Israeli's of Dutch descent even send in letters to Dutch newspapers saying : "We have been living with security checks around public buldings for decades. Good luck with your new reality and maybe you finally understand what it is like for us".
      Except that we don't live in a robber state which routinely desposseses and kills people at will.

      Why do you assume I would find this rejoicing NOT sick?

    • I think the quote from that interview by the Israeli talkshow ("our purpose was to record this" or whatever) is not enough to claim that these people knew about the 9/11 attacks beforehand and were there because they knew what was going to happen. It is more likely that they, like many Israeli's after the recent Paris attacks, feel happy about terrorists targeting western countries because they hope this will make people feel sympathetic towards Israel. When they saw what was happening they celebrated ("let them feel what we poor Israelis have been going through for decades" etc.) and recorded it.
      I don't believe in most conspiracy theories, only some :-).

  • Rights Expert: Harsh interrogation of 13-year-old Palestinian boy 'may amount to torture'
    • Did you notice how one of them was lauging? He apparently enjoys bullying a litrtle kid, all alone without anyone to comfort or protect him.

      There is no stabbing to be seen on that footage at all, if it is the same stuff the israeli police posted .

  • 'Caught on Camera': Extrajudicial killings of Palestinians
    • Watch the other little boy. Does he react as though right in front of him a boy is being butchered with knives?
      And the young woman. She does not even look at the 13 year old who is supposedly bleeding from 12 stabwounds right in front of her. And another young man just keeps shopping and does not even turn his head towards the place where the stabbed boy supposedly lies bleeding on the pavement inplain sight. Try to make 12 stabs between the moment when the boy is still riding the bike and the boys are being chased away. You can't.

      This video just doesn't add up.

    • This video released by the Israeli police seems to show that they maybe bumped into the boy on the bike, turned towards him for a second (to help him?) and then IMMEDIATELY ran off. I see no twelve stabs with a knife, in fact not a single one. The whole video is weird. You see the two cousins strolling in a relaxed way, and the captions say they were terrorists with knives on the lookout for a victim. When they are supposedly chasing their severely wounded victim (he does not look wounded at all) it seem more like they were running in the same direction by coincidence because they turn right when the man turns left.
      In the last scene too it is totally unclear what is really happening.

  • Video: Undercover Israeli soldiers infiltrate Palestinian demonstration, beat protesters and shoot detainee in leg
  • A communal confession on Yom Kippur
    • I was thinking of the Judaism of people like Emmanuel Levinas, a philosopher I grew up with so to speak, in my household. You seem to think you know more about Judaism than me. Possible, but why the need to brag?

    • Why do you ask me Keith?
      Are you going to tell me Maimonides was an advocate of Zionism avant la lettre?

    • Protestant denominations and the Roman Catholic church have all had to face their past, and have expressed remorse for the anti-semitic doctrines that led to so much abuse.
      One day Jewish congregations worldwide will wrestle with a similar shame of having actively supported, publicly defended and financed an ideology that:

      Slandered the original inhabitants of Israel
      Disgraced the worldwide Jewish Community
      Tought young Jews to hate non-Jews
      Disgraced the very core of Jewish religious teaching

      Rabbi Rosen is amongst those that people will be able to point to as having preserved the honor of Judaism at considerable personal cost.

    • Why don't you just talk straight and accuse us of anti-semitism openly?
      "trans-historic malfeasance of a monolithic community" pffft...
      I can't read your comments in the same way from now on. I may as well skip them.

  • In a parallel universe where I am a Syrian refugee
    • I don't agree.
      The different paths his family history could have taken are connected with the present plight of the refugees. The way in which he describes how this realization affects him (when he sees his little son for instance) is beautiful.
      I loved the article and found it very moving.

  • Iran Deal's liberation: Judaism is not Zionism
  • This high holiday season, expect few words about Palestinians, and even less concern
    • Sometimes you really make me laugh (as in your post about 'Get-down-man' and 'Piltdown-man' ) but in this case I just have no clue.
      Ocean vegetables + Chicago? I must be missing something from my side of the ocean...

  • The Star of David is fair game
  • It starts early: Netanyahu warns first graders Hamas is trying to kill them
    • Israeli politicians use the word 'peace' so cheaply and in such a perverse and dishonest way that I nowadays feel a wave of irritation whenever I hear the word 'shalom'. Same goes for the word ' teghogh' (terror) by the way.

  • Vicious 'NYT' article attacks Palestinian for bending rules to get out of Gaza 'to see her children'
    • It made me really angry. She consciously diminishes and ridicules the suffering in Gaza by selecting these complaints. Disgusting bitch.

      So I am going to invoke the Warsaw Ghetto now myself althoug I have been reluctant to do so in the past :

      "Foreign journalist visits Warsaw Ghetto and concentrates on the huge social problem of Jews fake anal complaints in order to fool the Germans and fraudulently get out."

      How is that for an 'analogy' ?

    • They have swimming pools and great shopping malls, and only suffer from minor health issues which somehow all center around the anus.

      What is there to complain about?

  • Angela Merkel makes a 14-year old Palestinian girl cry by telling her she is not welcome in Germany
  • Et tu, Michael Oren?
    • Cushitic belongs to what was formerly called the Hamito-Semitic language family, which is now called 'Afro-Asiatic'. (The name was changed because the name Hamito-Semitic was deemed nonsensical as it divided the languages according to the skin color of the speakers: Ham for black speakers, Sem for white speakers.)
      Cushitic at least belongs to the same language family as Hebrew, which is more than can be said of Yiddish (Germanic) or Ladino (Romance), the languages spoken by European Jews. Reasoning like this, Ethiopians have more claims to be Semitic than European Jews. But as we all know, populations switch languages easily and all the time, not just now but also in the past. Black Americans speaking English does not mean they are Anglo-Saxons, and South American Indians speaking Spanish does not mean they are Iberians.

  • Jews have replaced WASPs in foreign policy establishment-- Heilbrunn in NYT
  • Michael Oren misrepresents 1971 synagogue bombing that changed his life
    • My point is that a father showing his young son pictures of corpses in concentration camps is sick in the first place. If it is true that he did this every time his son had gotten into a fight with non-Jews, this is even sicker, as this sets the child up psychologically to hate and distrust all non-Jews, in other words: The world around him.

      But as practically all Oren writes about his childhood has proven to be melodramatic phantasy, I do not believe this maudlin story either: The yellowing pictures in the old album, brought home by his uncle, who witnessed the concentration camps himself, shown to the young boy beaten up by non-Jews on a daily basis...

      Gimme a break. The guy should have become a scenario writer for crappy movies.

    • "After each incident, Oren says, his father showed him an album that his brother, a World War II veteran, had given him. It contained yellowing pictures of concentration camps and corpses."

      Apart from his father being a sick person if this story is true, the suggestion is clearly that his brother took those pictures himself. They certainly did not sell postcards of concentration camps full of corpses in Europe, and if the brother cut the pictures out of newspapers or books and pasted them in his album, then why mention that he was a WW II veteran in this passage?

      The following concentration camps were liberated by American troops: Buchenwald, Dora-Mittelbau, Flossenbürg, Dachau and Mauthausen.

      Can it be checked if his brother was indeed involved in the liberation of any of these camps?

    • "The same cannot be said of any other religion or ethic group."

      Why do you think that? It can be said of any religious or ethnic group that is not a majority in a certain country. If you are an atheist Copt in Egypt, or a Palestinian Christian for instance, you are still 'ethnically' a Copt or a Christian and identified as such. And do you think all those Bosnian Muslims were religious? In fact most were not.
      Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland were certainly not all religious either, but their ethnic/religious affiliation would still be clear.

    • "American Jews need to question why they don’t feel safe in the western world. I think it’s all an excuse to keep the Zionist project known as Isreal alive."

      Right! And because most of them realize (unlike Oren) that these stories do not come over as very believable they have come up with the "anti-Semitic Europe" meme. And most Americans fall for it.

  • Unsilencing Gaza: One year since 'Operation Protective Edge'
  • Oren's criticism of US Jews earns his book five thumbs down: 'slinky,' 'self-aggrandizing,' 'twists reality'
    • "And thus when confronted with where do I come from, the most recent past presents a rejection rather than a homecoming. "

      How recent were those 'killing forests' Jonah?
      The Nazi's were beaten a while ago FYI, and Europe is one of the safest places on earth.

  • 'Jewish cow' is udderly superior to all other cows in the world, Netanyahu says
    • Thanks Phan. That website is great fun. I loved this one:

      "What’s more, Israeli cows produce 40% less methane gas than that produced by cows in other nations. The lower emission has environmental significance, as methane gas is considered the principle contributor to global warming. "

      Israeli cows do not fart?

  • 'Obama coffee' is black and weak -- racist tweet from wife of Israel's vice premier
    • I don't believe that you are from Bulgaria. You are an American, born and bred. You are playing a role here.

  • Israeli leader turns on US Jewish journalists Friedman, Wieseltier, Remnick and Silvers for disloyalty and anti-semitism!
  • The grotesque injustice of Obama's speech at the Washington synagogue
    • Did no-one, really no-one walk out at the 'no easy partner' comment?
      That is disgraceful!

  • 'NYT' public editor faults paper for failing to quote Jews who support BDS
    • Great comment.
      A little note:
      I've only got highschool French, and I don't know about Sullivan's French but I thought "Juif, la France n'est pas a toi meant"
      "Jew, France is not yours/You do not own France" and not "Jew, France is not for you/ You do not belong in France".

  • 'This is where we are, and we are not leaving here' — Notes from BirthWrong
    • You use the word dhimmi as if it meant ' slave' or 'outcast' , but the word literally means "protected person."

      According to scholars, dhimmis had their rights fully protected in their communities, but as citizens in the Islamic state, had certain restrictions, and it was obligatory on them to pay the jizya tax.

      Dhimmis were excluded from specific duties assigned to Muslims, and did not enjoy certain political rights reserved for Muslims, but were otherwise equal under the laws of property, contract, and obligation.

      They were also exempted from the zakat tax paid by Muslims.

      So they pay one tax and do not pay another.

      Overall this sounds better than the position of Palestinian Israeli's, let alone the people of the West-Bank and Gaza.

  • In Israel, racism is standard procedure
    • There is a lot to react to in your post but let me just say this:

      "On the other hand, people don’t make so much about the muslim countries surrounding it who don’t even accept any other arabs as citizens, no refugees getting asylum there "

      You do know that Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey, though not wealthy, have taken in millions of Syrian refugees, while Israel has taken in none?

    • The name David Gravell does not sound Dutch at all, and as I am not into his sort of music I had never heard of him. But his real name seems to be Danny de Graaf (thanks to Google).
      I do not do Twitter either, but I will try to start something about this on Dutch news sites.

  • 'Israel should extend the right of return to all Palestinian refugees' -- Jebreal in 'The Nation'
    • It would indeed be great if the Arab Jews in Israel would realize that they have more in common with the Palestinians than the Ashkenazi ruling class who lord over them. However, as Uri Avneri wrote:

      "Palestinians believed for many years that the "Jewish Arabs" would bring about peace and reconciliation, unlike the Arab-hating Ashkenazi Zionist leadership. Arab citizens in Israel also believed that the Oriental Jews would become a "bridge". They were bitterly disappointed."

      He connects this to a universal trend, and I think he is right:

      "Another reason for the attachment of Orientals to the Right in Israel is their socio-economic status. It is a world-wide phenomenon that in colonial countries, the lowest layer of the dominant nation ("white scum" in the US) is the most extreme enemy of the national minorities."

  • Bedouin village razed 83 times must pay $500,000 for demolitions, Israel says
    • Just, what came to my mind is the Chinese practice of making families of people executed by the state pay for the bullet, if they want to reclaim the body.

  • Searching for my grandmother's home in Yafa
    • This story moved me incredably. May justice be done, soon please!
      The hatred of so many Israeli's towards the Palestinians stems from suppressed feelings of guilt. You need to hate people in order to take all they have from them, and continue to feel good about yourself. It is a sad mechanism.

  • 'Baltimore Is Here': Ethiopian Israelis protest police brutality in Jerusalem
    • I found some references (Wikipedia)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

      "By 1994 modern scholars of Ethiopian history and Ethiopian Jews generally supported one of two conflicting hypotheses for the origin of the Beta Israel, as outlined by Kaplan:[85]
      An ancient Jewish origin, together with conservation of some ancient Jewish traditions by the Ethiopian Church. Kaplan identifies Simon D. Messing, David Shlush, Michael Corinaldi, Menachem Waldman, Menachem Elon and David Kessler as supporters of this hypothesis.[85]
      A late ethnogenesis of the Beta Israel between the 14th to 16th centuries, from a sect of Ethiopian Christians who took on Biblical Old Testament practices, and came to identify as Jews. Steven Kaplan supports this hypothesis, and lists with him G. J. Abbink, Kay K. Shelemay, Taddesse Tamrat and James A. Quirin. Quirin differs from his fellow researchers in the weight he assigns to an ancient Jewish element which the Beta Israel have conserved.[85]"

      After this it says:
      " Recent scholarly research,[86] supported by genetic studies,[87] has contradicted this widely accepted theory that views the group as the descendents of Ethiopian Christian converts."

      But look up the part on DNA in the Wikipedia article and you will see that the evidence all points to a local origin of the Ethiopian Jews.

    • Boo, the reason why Ethiopian Jews rituals are so much like the old Hebrew ones is because these rituals are described in the Torah, and certain groups of Ethiopans gradually started to follow these instructions.
      There are more examples of peoples around the world identifying themselves with lost Jewish tribes, but this always occurs in regions where Christianity was introduced first. It is a by-product of the spread of Christianity.

      Just think how tempting it is to imagine yourself being part of a chosen people that you constantly read about in your Holy book but do not yourself belong to. And then there is the story of tribes being 'lost'... Irresistible.

      I thought this explanation on the development of the Ethiopian Jews was not so controversial. I read about it here and there before, and it is a lot more likely that the Queen of Sheba or tribe of Dan story.

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