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eljay

I'm a happily-married, vegetarian and atheist Canadian with two wonderful cats. :-)

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  • The Palestinian message to Israel: Deal with us justly. Or disappear
    • >> shalom: ... do you really believe that Jews who found a way back to their Promised Land after some two thousand years of praying and dreaming, who went on to carve out the State of Israel as the result of the 1947 UN Partition Plan, in the aftermath of the Holocaust, are ever going to be moved through the threat of delegitimization or removed by the threat of violence?

      The rapist - who found his way back to his Promised Victim after many years of praying and dreaming, who went to carve out his self-determination in her, in the aftermath of an abusive childhood - may never be moved through the threat of trial and incarceration. But that's no reason for the police to walk away and leave the victim chained in the rapist's basement, subject to the rapist's desires.

      >> Peace will come when two peoples each see the other not only as their enemy but first as human beings and begin to walk together toward a positive relationship…

      Zio-supremacists love to talk about peace, but they always avoid talking about justice and accountability. When will justice and accountability come?

    • ... [The Palestinian] leadership was often weak, but we must remember that since 1948, when the nascent IDF went from village to village with ledgers containing the names of those who should be assassinated, until the attempted assassination of Muhammed Deif a few days ago, Israel has conducted a systematic campaign of eliminating by murder or imprisonment any Palestinian showing real or potential leadership.

      Zio-supremacists enjoy asking "Where is the Palestinian Gandhi?", knowing full well that their Zio-supremacist co-collectivists have never stop killing him.

  • Elizabeth Warren says killing Palestinian civilians is 'the last thing Israel wants'
    • >> I think the vote was right, and I’ll tell you why I think the vote was right,” she said. “America has a very special relationship with Israel.

      Why does it have a very special relationship with Israel? What is this relationship based on? How does it work?

      >> Israel lives in a very dangerous part of the world ...

      So what? Lots of countries live in dangerous parts of the world.

      >> ... and a part of the world where there aren’t many liberal democracies and democracies that are controlled by the rule of law. And we very much need an ally in that part of the world.”

      Why do you need an ally there? It's not your part of the world.

      >> When pressed by another member of the crowd about civilian casualties from Israel’s attacks, Warren said she believes those casualties are the “last thing Israel wants.”

      Of course. Casualties are bad PR. Israel would prefer to see Palestinians quietly die or disappear.

      >> “But when Hamas puts its rocket launchers next to hospitals, next to schools, they’re using their civilian population to protect their military assets. And I believe Israel has a right, at that point, to defend itself,” Warren said, drawing applause.

      So...if Hamas put its rocket launchers elsewhere, Israel wouldn't have a right to defend itself? Interesting.

      What Ms. Warren - like all other apologists for supremacist "Jewish State" - fails to point out is that Israel has been stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians for over 60 years. Palestinians have a right to defend themselves, too.

  • 'NYT' continues using discredited figures suggesting parity between Israeli and Palestinian attacks -- Updated
    • These statistics ... appeared to be at best a lazy, and at worse a deliberately deceptive way, for the New York Times to shield readers from what was clearly a dramatically imbalanced situation ...

      Deliberate deception to protect supremacist "Jewish State".

  • Israel's information iron dome
    • The gravest images of Palestinian [Iraqi / Afghani] suffering will not be shown in the most popular newspapers in Israel [America]. The stories of loss and devastation, of individuals and families, will not be told. The unfolding humanitarian crisis and its consequences for innocent civilians will not be elaborated for Israeli [American] readers. The fate of the thousands of displaced Palestinians [Iraqis / Afghanis], for whom displacement is a familiar occurrence, won’t be followed. For the displaced, a new story of devastation and endless rebuilding is now only beginning. Meanwhile, in the opinion pages of Israeli [American] press, there is already talk of the next war.

      Israel and the U.S. really do have an "unshakeable bond" of "shared common values" with "no light between".

  • Ceasefire deal after weeks of fighting in Gaza promises easing of blockade
    • >> jon seee: ... We love life and celebrate life, so we are mourning our dead, and we’re also sorry for the civilian deaths in Gaza, caused by Hamas.

      Like a typical Zio-supremacist, you absolve the oppressor - who, for ove 60 years, has been stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians - and blame the oppressed.

      >> Hamas celebrate death, so they’re celebrating.

      You also celebrate Jewish supremacism and an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State". And, so, you celebrate.

    • >> “Any concession to Hamas is a surrender to terrorism,” the mayor of Ashkelon told Haaretz.

      Any concession to oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State" - a state that has been stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians for over 60 years - is a concession to terrorism. And, yet, Zio-supremacist seem to think that that's appropriate.

  • WATCH: Ultra-Zionists protest Muslim-Jewish wedding saying miscegenation is 'gravest threat to the Jewish people'
    • As even mainstream Israeli politicians threaten the Palestinians of Gaza with ethnic cleansing and genocide, Israel’s far-right figures take to the street to rile up racist supporters and to chase Palestinians out of public spaces and enforce racial-religious separation.

      So this is what it looks like when a self-proclaimed "moral beacon" state:
      - functions under the impression that morality is merely "goal + methods";
      - scorns justice, accountability and equality; and
      - strives to be just a little bit better than Saudi Arabia, Mali and African "hell-holes".

  • 40 Holocaust survivors condemn 'massacre' of Palestinians, call for BDS against Israel
    • “As Jewish survivors and descendants of survivors and victims of the Nazi genocide we unequivocally condemn the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza and the ongoing occupation and colonization of historic Palestine,” the letter says. “We call for an immediate end to the siege against and blockade of Gaza. We call for the full economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. ‘Never again’ must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!”

      Not that I would expect "goal + methods" Zio-supremacists to understand it, but THAT, right there, is morality.

  • Our new look
  • My life during the war
    • >> guzzi: ... It brings one down to earth and reminds us that at the end of the day we are just humans occupying this very disputed piece of land.

      If it's outside of Israel's / Partition borders, it's not "very disputed" - it's under occupation. Looks like Ms. Alshami's letter didn't sufficiently bring you down to Earth.

      >> At the same time, I abhor Hama’s politics and fundamentalism, which causes so many of us to run in terror to bomb shelters so many times a day.

      Hamas' politics and fundamentalism pale by comparison to Zio-supremacism's politics and fundamentalism, which have caused so many more Palestinians to live and die in terror for over 60 years.

  • The new center
    • >> jon seee: The survivors overwhelmingly support Israel , because the Jewish people in general overwhelmingly support Israel.

      If this is true, it is disappointing that most Holocaust survivors and most Jews support an overtly oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist state that has spent over 60 years stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians.

  • Jodi Rudoren loves a winner
    • >> LeaNder: If you delete supremacist, eljay ...

      Supremacism: the belief that a particular ... [group] ... is superior to others and entitles those who identify with it to dominate, control or rule those who do not.

      Israel was not conceived as a state of and for all people within or (up to n generations removed) from a geographic region. It was conceived, defined and implemented, and has been maintained and expanded, as a "Jewish State" - a state primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israelis who are also Jewish; a state that favours Jewish people over indigenous non-Jews.

      "Jewish" is, fundamentally, a religious construct: To be Jewish, one must be descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion, or one must undergo a religious conversion.

      The term "religion-supremacist" applies. I can't delete it.

    • >> J.S.: However, I don’t share your implied conclusion that there was never any morally legitimate basis for Zionism or the creation of Israel.

      Dunno about Zionism, but there was never any morally legitimate basis for the creation of a "Jewish State" of Israel - a fundamentally religion-supremacist state primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews.

      The solution to any injustices suffered by Jews - or by anyone, for that matter - was and remains justice and accountability.

  • Watch: Huge pro-BDS Palestinian flag unfurled on Manhattan Bridge
    • >> Palikareee: That is vandalism and the perpetrators should be punished.

      Zio-supremacists have this insatiable urge to wipe Palestinians off the map and push them into the sea or river.

  • In Photos: Thousands pack Rafah streets for funeral of top Hamas commanders
    • >> jon s: The latest report is that Hamas has executed 18 of their own people today.
      >> I’ll bet the Hamas cheering squad on MW will approve .

      I'll bet Zio-supremacists are thinking Hamas didn't go far enough and that it should execute itself out of existence.

  • Democratic Party leader echoes Netanyahu's new theme: Hamas equals ISIS
    • Female murderers exist in society. According to Bibi, the woman chained in the rapist's bunker - that battered and abused victim who lashes out in anger / frustration / desperation at her captor - is just like those female killers!!!

      Bibi, in the words of Mr. Bumble, "is a ass - a idiot".

  • 'Common Dreams' website traps Hasbara troll spewing anti-Semitism
    • >> Mooser: Well, I’m glad they took the load off Annie. A load you took for free. They took the load off Annie, and I’m glad they didn’t put the load right on me.

      Nicely done! :-)

  • My personal BDS
    • There was no doubt a lot of forced eviction, aggressive and brutal expulsion, which I agree is unforgivable, one of the many sins of that time that should never have happened, given our own experience of such atrocities. But it was not ethnic cleansing as committed agains[t] Jews in Europe and the comparison is just wrong.

      What an utterly stupid comment! Who the f*ck cares whether ethnic cleansing committed against Palestinians is the same or better or worse than that committed against Jews in Europe? Ethnic cleansing is not a trademarked crime, like "Holocaust".

      The sheer hatefulness and immorality of Zio-supremacists never ceases to amaze me...

  • Despite ravages of war, Gaza supports armed resistance to lift the siege
    • >> MS. HARF: I personally cannot envision a scenario in which we would not veto it.
      link to state.gov

      Justice? Nope.
      Accountability? Nope.

      The U.S. and Israel really do have an unshakeable bond!

  • Ari Shavit calls out every brutality, except the ones Israel is complicit in
    • Ari Shavit is perhaps the slimiest “liberal” apologist for Israel’s brutal policies working today. He at least acknowledges the Nakba but claims the ethnic cleansing, massacres, and terrorism were justified because it resulted in a Jewish majority state on someone else’s land ...

      In the immortal words of "liberal Zionist" RW: "The nakba that occurred in 1948 was accompanied by the independence, the liberation, of the Jewish community. So, I primarily celebrate … "

  • Dead American soldier in IDF signed up to fight global jihadists plotting 'Holocaust 2.0'
    • >> Jackdaweee: The Zionist Jews didn’t build the concentration camps.

      The Palestinians didn't commit the Holocaust.

  • 'Lesson: The Jews will defend themselves even if it means killing children'
    • "Your Honour, you are damaging the laws against kidnapping, confinement and rape by trying to apply these statutes against my client when, in reality - and given the countless months he and the young lady have spent together in his bunker - what exists between them is, in fact, a 'dominant/submissive life partnership'. Pretending that he's a rapist and she's his victim just damages the laws."

    • JeffBeee has already re-defined morality ("morality" = goal + methods), so it seems that now he's out to re-define occupation, annexation and international law.

      >> The institution damaging international law is the UN not Israel.

      Laws are damaged when they are not respected and enforced. Israel disrespects the laws; and Israel and the U.S. are doing everything in their power to undermine enforcement.

      >> A robber doesn’t damage the laws against robbery. But a DA and judge who keeps misclassifying bar fights as robberies and trying to apply the statutes against robbery rather than those against assault does damage the laws against robbery by making them seem poorly conceived.

      The DA and judge haven't mis-classified anything. Israel is committing robbery, but it keeps insisting that its past and ON-GOING acts of robbery are merely a "repossession" of goods. Luckily (so far) for Israel, it has a wealthy benefactor and high-powered lawyer in its corner.

    • >> P.W.: I understand that Yaacov has had more to say today on his own site about this flap…

      Doesn't he, though!

      My occasional pen-pal Phil Weiss, he of the Mondoweiss website, that lair of American-hating Antisemites, wrote to tell me he was troubled by a short message I posted a few weeks ago on Twitter. ... If it weren't for his absolutely totally inexcusably repulsive website. i.e. in another life, he and I might even be friends.

      It's amazing and amusing to see such vitriol from a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist.

    • >> dimadokeee: It’s a war there and in every war there are civilian casualties. However, Israel is the ONLY state to go to such extends to try and minimize their losses.

      The wind blows a certain way today and Zio-supremacists say "most moral army" and "moral beacon". Tomorrow the wind shifts and suddenly Zio-supremacists say "Israel isn't as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali and African 'hell-holes'."

      But regardless of which way the wind blows, the oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State" of Israel remains engaged in a 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder.

      And Zio-supremacists "primarily celebrate".

    • >> asherpat: eljay, do you have any better arguments than “Zio-spremacist” etc?

      If you're looking for an argument that absolves Zio-supremacists of your past and on-going (war) crimes - (war) crimes committed in the pursuit of a supremacist "Jewish State" - no, I don't have that argument.

    • Zio-supremacists seem content to strive to be just a little bit better than the worst. Their philosophy appears to be something along the line of "Sure, I could be a law-abiding citizen, but murderers exist so I might as well be a rapist."

    • So If Israel has to chose between it’s own safety or refusing to kill any innocent bystanders whatsoever, we’ll choose to defend ourselves.

      So if Palestinians have to choose between...
      - their own safety when confronted by an enemy that has been stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land and oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians for over 60 years; and
      - refusing to kill any innocent Israeli bystanders whatsoever,
      ...they are entitled to choose to defend themselves, yes, Mr. Lozowick?

      Or are you just another (typical) Zio-supremacist hypocrite?

  • 'I mourn my Jewish community, which seeks to justify these inexcusable acts'
    • >> jon s ... link to theguardian.com

      Louise Mensch, the former Tory MP, accused Sainsbury's of racism, writing on Twitter: "Dear @Sainsburys kosher is JEWISH food. Israel is a COUNTRY. How DARE YOU equate Jews' food to ISRAEL, how dare you #EverydayAntisemitism"

      I wonder if Louise Mensch is at least as troubled by the fact that Zio-supremacists constantly equate Jews to Israel, how DARE THEY!

      #Over60YearsOfEverydayAntisemitismCommittedByZionists

    • >> michtom:

      The essence of Judaism to me is in the Seder where Jews are told three things:

      We should think of ourselves as having personally come out of slavery;
      That no one is free until everyone is free;
      That Jews have an obligation to work for universal freedom.

      That sounds so much more moral and admirable than the essence of Zio-supremacism, which appears to be: "Jews are entitled to a colonialist, expansionist and supremacist 'Jewish State' of (Greater) Israel in Palestine."

    • >> Larrysturn @ August 20, 2014 at 9:35 am

      Lots of words in that post, but no mention of:
      - Jewish terrorism;
      - the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and lands;
      - the establishment of an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State" of Israel in Palestine; and
      - the supremacist state's 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder.

      Funny how that happens...

  • Air strikes and rocket fire resume as Gaza negotiations collapse
    • >> tod77: [e]ljay – your analogy of a rapist is simplistic ...

      Simplistic analogies from a simple guy. :-)

      >> Do you honestly expect the rapist to find moral enlightment and admit himself to an asylum?

      I don't expect the rapist to relinquish his victim or willingly accept justice and accountability. With the help of his fervent supporters, I expect him to keep on "raping and crying", insisting that he is merely "self-determining" himself.

      >> Do you honestly expect the victim to thank the rapist for the freedom bestowed, and not go and buy a shotgun?

      If the victim were freed, I would expect her rightly to seek justice and accountability and to move on with her life. If she were to commit - or to attempt to commit - retributional violence against the rapist, I would expect her to be held fully accountable for her actions.

    • >> Hamas ridiculously demanding open borders, a seaport and airport is a certain recipe for a huge escalation of the conflict by putting Israel’s security into total jeopardy.

      The rapist's victim demands the freedom that is her right. But the rapist worries that she might try to have him held accountable for his past and on-going crimes.

      Better just to lengthen her chain a bit and put some frilly padding on the cuffs.

  • Ceasefire comes to a close -- Mohammed Assaf's 'Raise Your Head High'
    • >> jon s: ... I think that I've been around long enough to recognize the face of evil when I see it. For example we now see these IS people ... so we recognize evil . And we see it in Hamas ...

      And with his inability to once again not see it in Zio-supremacism and the acts of injustice and immorality that Zio-supremacists and the oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State" of Israel have been committing for over 60 years, jon s validates Donald's earlier comment.

      Well done.

    • I consider myself a sincere friend of rape victims, and while I don't think that...
      - they should be liberated and permitted to return to their homes; or
      - their captors - who are simply exercising their gawd-given right to carnal self-determination - should be held accountable for their crimes,
      ...I've certainly never dehumanized them.

  • NY Times describes Israel’s June rampage in the West Bank as a “clampdown”
    • You remember Israel’s “clampdown” in the West Bank, don’t you? In response to the disappearance of three teenagers whose fate was known but kept secret, the IDF rampaged through hundreds of homes and even universities, killing a half dozen civilians and arresting well over 500 people who had nothing to do with the Israeli teens’ disappearance and murder.

      The Potato-man (where is he, anyway?) undoubtedly remembers. He referred to it as his government and army "doing all efforts" and he said it made him a proud Israeli.

  • More Orientalist insinuations in the New York Times
    • >> tree: As likewise, you can say whatever you want about all 3 religions but it doesn’t make your pronouncements valid.

      Fair enough. I retract all my statements and accept the assertions made that:
      - there's no good reason to exclude Muslims from the promise God made to Jews regarding Palestine; and
      - Abraham was a Muslim.

    • >> Walid: An fair description if you accept that Christianity was itself a re-hash of Judaism.

      I'd say Christianity was more of a derivative or an off-shoot of Judaism than a re-hash. But that's just my "new atheist" (whatever that means) opinion. :-)

      >> It all goes back to the Jews by whatever name one is to call them.

      The only appropriate name I can think of for Jews is Jews, not Muslims.

    • >> aiman: Abraham in legend is the founder of monotheism from which Judaism is derived. Later Christianity and Islam negotiate with that discourse.

      Christianity and Islam can "negotiate with that discourse" all they want, but:
      - neither religion is Judaism;
      - the adherents of either of those religions are not Jews;
      - Judaism is neither of those religions; and
      - the adherents of Judaism are neither Christian nor Muslim.

      >> They are far from opportunistic rehashes as you claim, the same could be said of Judaism for opportunistically reducing the Abrahamic vision for the unity of a particular tribe.

      Sure, Judaism "reduced the Abrahamic vision for the unity of a particular tribe". Islam, however, didn't just do that for itself - it also co-opted both Judaism and Christianity as a means of legitimizing itself as a "successor religion" to both of those religions.

    • >> aiman: Abraham preceded Judaism. Judaism is derived from the legend of Abraham, not the other way round.

      Judaism 101:

      Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ... founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. ... [T]echnically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews ... nevertheless, for convenience and in accordance with common practice, I will use these terms.

    • >> aiman: I’ve read the Old Testament.

      That's nice.

      >> ... Judaism represents a primitive notion of God which is universalised in Christianity and Islam. So a non-member of the tribe can’t logically become one.

      And yet by converting to Judaism non-Jews become Jews. Huh.

      >> You are thumping your chest as a form of cultural realisation and pretending to be a rational critic, you are just another new atheist with unacknowledged biases.

      1. I'm not pretending to be anything or anyone other than myself.
      2. Are you saying you agree with Another Steve's assertion that Jews are, in fact, Muslims?

    • And, anyway, you've got it backwards. Since Jews were submitting themselves to god long before Islam came around, one who submits himself to god is a Jew, not a Muslim. IOW, all Muslims are really Jews. Time for them to accept the reality and convert.

    • >> Um, actually, Muslims did exist at the time.

      No they didn't. Islam didn't exist before the 7th century. No Islam, no Muslims.

      >> A Muslim is one who submits to God.

      According to Islam, yes. Before Islam, anyone who "submitted to his god" was doing so according to his non-Islamic faith.

      >> Abraham was one who submitted to God.

      As a Jew, yes.

      >> Therefore, Abraham was a Muslim.

      According to Islam, but not according to Judaism. Abraham was a Jew. A Jew is not a Muslim (or a Christian), and a Muslim is not a Jew (or a Christian).

      Islam says Abraham was a Jew because the founders of Islam were attempting to co-opt Judaism and Christianity and wanted to give their new religion some legitimacy.

      Islam can say what it wants about Judaism - or Christianity, for that matter - but that doesn't make its pronouncements valid.

    • >> lysias: ... In what sense is Islam any less genuine a descendant of early Judaism than Rabbinic Judaism is?

      IMO, Islam is an opportunistic re-hash of Judaism and Christianity. I don't know if that's also true of Rabbinic Judaism. I don't think it is, but I don't really know.

      >> How is that anything other than a subjective judgment of Islam?

      It's my opinion so, naturally, it's a subjective judgement.

      >> I take it you don’t like Islam.

      I think all religions are foolish.

      >> Why should that matter?

      It doesn't.

      >> Why is it not equally possible to make a similarly negative evaluation of Rabbinic Judaism, or of Christianity, for that matter?

      In my very humblest opinion, Rabbinic Judaism is still Judaism. Christianity, however, is not. Islam, which is further removed and derivative, is even less Judaism than is Christianity.

      If Muslims wanted to be Jews, they would have adopted Judaism and been entitled to partake in the Jewish gawd's promise to land in Palestine. Instead, they created Islam and claimed it as a successor to Judaism. Just because they claimed Judaism doesn't make them Jews or entitle them to the promises Jews made to themselves.

      A complete stranger could adopt my family name and my family's customs, but that wouldn't make part of my family and it would not entitle him to any share of the large inheritance promised to me and my siblings by my parents.

    • >> lysias: You’re telling me Rabbinic Judaism existed at that time?

      Are Rabbinic Jews not Jews?

    • >> lysias: Why do Jews who think Palestine was promised to them by God not think that Muslims are included among those to whom the land was promised?

      There's no reason for Jews to believe that the gawd and the promise they created for themselves would or should apply to a group of people (Muslims):
      - who didn't exist at the time the god and the promise were created; and
      - whose religion is a mostly an unimaginative but convenient re-hash of Judaism and Christianity.

      Not that this validates either the gawd or the promise.

    • >> JeffBeee: There are no original inhabitants anywhere.

      Thanks for finally laying to rest the well-worn claim that Palestine is the "homeland of the Jews".

  • Weapons fired in Ferguson come from companies supplying Israel, Bahrain and Egypt
    • >> JustaJester: He can’t blame Israel for any of this. And neither can you, Alex.

      No-one is blaming Israel. The direct connections between Ferguson and the West Bank have to do with the tear gas itself and with the company supplying it, not with who is using it:
      - "When tear-gas was first fired into the streets of Ferguson ... Palestinian activists sent out messages on Twitter giving people tips for how to deal with tear gas’ effects."
      - " ... the company that supplies the Israeli army with tear gas is the same company supplying the police in Ferguson."

  • HAMAS made me do it!
    • >> Palikareee: This cartoon is outrageous.

      You and Zio-supremacists like you are outrageous cartoons of human beings. Your supremacist "Jewish State" started terrorizing, ethnically cleansing, oppressing, torturing and killing Palestinians, and stealing, occupying and colonizing Palestinian land, long before Hamas was even a twinkle in your leaders' eyes.

      You refuse to stop stealing, occupying and colonizing; you refuse to stop oppressing, torturing and killing; you refuse to honour your obligations under international law; you refuse to accept responsibility and accountability for your past and ON-GOING (war) crimes; and you refuse to engage in sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace. But you're never to blame for anything. It's always someone else's fault.

      Aggressor-victimhood sure is a tough gig... :-(

  • Lobbyist tells Eliot Engel he has 'the blood of hundreds of Palestinian children on his hands'
    • >> Haaretz editorial:

      The threats against them are the kind that would happen in a fanatical theocracy in the developing world — not in a Western democracy that Israel pretends to be.

      "Pretends" is an appropriate word.

      Israeli society ... faces a much greater danger: the transformation into a backward, fundamentalist society in which religious and racial purity are maintained by force.

      You can't make a supremacist "Jewish State" without breaking a few Arabs eggs.

  • Rob Reiner wants to pick Palestinians' leaders for them
    • >> JeffB: Then why not be consistent and include on every mention of Iran the “ethno- supremacist state of Iran”?

      If this site were about Iran, and if Iran functioned as a "Persian State" - a state primarily of and for Persian Iranians and non-Iranian Persians - I would be referring to Iran as the supremacist "Persian State" when responding to the Persian equivalent of Jewish supremacists like you.

      But the issue at hand is Israel's existence as a supremacist "Jewish State".

      >> Or when discussing virtually every European country historically since in the 19th century that had institutional state churches…

      We live in the 21st century, not the 19th. And in the 21st century, Israel is an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist state. Which is fine if your goal is simply to be a bit better than Saudi Arabia, Mali and African "hell-holes".

    • >> JeffB: There is no nation of Persia either.

      So what?

      >> There isn’t a perfect mapping between people who live in the territory of Iran (and certainly not expats) and those who have rights in Iran.

      Then I have a problem with Iran.

      >> Does that mean that Iran is an illegitimate country, not entitled to self determination ...

      No, Iran is a legitimate country, as is Israel. A supremacist "Persian State" would be just as illegitimate as is supremacist "Jewish State".

      >> Jews have the right to self determination as Israelis.

      Jews have a right to be Jews in whichever country they happen to reside. They have no just or moral "right" to self-determine as a supremacist nationality. No-one does.

      >> You want to flood Israel with an alien and hostile people.

      No I don't.

    • >> Either you believe in self determination or you don’t.

      Sure do. Citizens of, immigrants to and ex-pats and refugees from a geographic region comprising a country have the right to self-determine as X. They hold, as equals, a bureaucratic nationality of Country X.

      Israel - Israelis
      Palestine - Palestinians
      France- French
      Canada - Canadians
      Germany - Germans

      There is no country of Jewish and there is no bureaucratic nationality of Jewish, just as there is no country of Homosexual or bureaucratic nationality of Homosexual.

      Creating a supremacist "Jewish State" / "Homosexual State" is not self-determination, it's religion-based / or sexual orientation-based supremacism.

      There's nothing just or moral about that. It's certainly not something that should be believed in.

    • >> Citizen: So, in your mind, those illegal Israeli settlements in the WB support Palestininan self-government? And that Israeli blockade of Gaza too?

      According to the Zio-supremacist mind, morality = goal + methods.

      Those settlements and the blockade are the methods to Israel's desired goal of a supremacist "Jewish State" of (Greater) Israel.

      Who can possibly object to such "morality"?

    • >> My Jewish and my pro-Israel friends say to me sometimes, How would you fare as a gay man in any of these [Middle East societies]–?

      Zio-supremacists are strange: When they aren't reaching back 1,500 years for examples of injustice and immorality with which to attempt to defend their supremacist "Jewish State's" past and on-going, 20th and 21st century acts of immorality and injustice, they're proudly comparing their supremacist "Jewish State" to the worst of the worst in modern-day states (Saudi Arabia, Mali and African "hell-holes").

  • Witnessing Gaza
    • >> jon seee: Donald, Are you sure that you read the entire essay?

      Donald's point is valid: Sacks whitewashes the past and ON-GOING (war) crimes committed by Jews.

      >> And it’s “Rabbi Sacks”, Donald. A little respect.

      You often fail to include titles when referring to Obama or Netanyahu. Why the sudden, hypocritical reverence for titles?

    • >> JeffBeee: Today it is the belief that Israel is for Israelis the same way France is for the French and China for the Chinese.

      The way Israel and Zio-supremacists tell it, Israel remains a supremacist "Jewish State" primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews.

    • >> Gene Shaeee: ... being anti-Zionist surely is as it exclusively denies Jews the right given to any other people

      Zionists demand the right to have a religion-supremacist state. That is not a right anyone is given or entitled to.

  • UPDATED: Bay Area demonstrators succeed for **fourth** day in 'Blocking the Boat for Gaza'
    • >> hophmeee: The only way Ben-Gurion airport could be disabled is through the targeting of civilian infrastructure by Hamas. That’s terrorism.

      So when Israel targets Gaza's civilian infrastructure, Israel commits terrorism. Thanks for clarifying that.

  • Israel correctly fears its 'delegitimizers,' says leftwing member of Irish parliament
    • >> RoHa: Only a really sick and twisted mind could say that.

      Welcome to the Zio-supremacist mind, a place where morality is just a matter of a goal and the methods to achieve it.

  • The catastrophe inflicted on Gaza--and the costs to Israel's standing
    • >> sfia: A man standing up for justice…then and now! A dying creed perhaps? I wonder what vitriol the hasbarists will throw his and his families way as a response.

      Well said. I suspect that any Zio-supremacists who do chime in will have little more than scorn for this man.

  • Question for the American Jewish Establishment: Where does Zionism end and Judaism begin?
    • >> y.f.: It is natural that for conscientious Jews there is no middle ground on Israel, no apathy, no “they’re foreign to me”, but involvement. To take the step to say that this involvement must involve opposition to settlements ... is quite a step, given that the normal ... involvement is support of the current israeli government.

      Conscientious: "controlled by or done according to one's inner sense of what is right"

      So..."conscientious Jews" are people who believe that it is right to support Jewish supremacism in a supremacist "Jewish State" and the associated injustice and immorality.

      Interesting.

      It's a shame "conscientious Jews" don't advocate for justice, accountability and equality instead.

  • Israel's foundation in a 'terroristic campaign of expulsion, ethnic cleansing and murder' is the 'deep wound in that part of the world' -- Sullivan
    • >> lyn117: I think a fairer question is whether Israel would kill every Palestinian if it thought it could get away with it, absolutely no repercussions. I think it would ...

      I have no doubt that if Zio-supremacists could get away with it, they would create as large a supremacist "Jewish State" as possible, and then try to remove all non-Jews from it. Those they could not evict they would kill.

      This (goal + methods) is what they refer to as "morality".

  • Accounts of Israeli war crimes in Khuza'a, Gaza pile up
    • >> JeffBeee: In the way you define “illegal” and settler if applied consistently, then yes they are occupying the bulk of Switzerland: link to en.wikipedia.org

      Crazy Zio-supremacists, always striving to be just a little bit better than the worst.

      When they're not busy comparing the oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist "Jewish State" to Saudi Arabia, Mali and African "hell-holes", they're reaching 1,500 years into the past to justify Zio-supremacist acts of injustice and immorality in the 20th and 21st centuries.

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