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eljay

I'm a happily-married, vegetarian and atheist Canadian with two wonderful cats. :-)

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  • 'All the houses received [demolition] orders': Israel to destroy entire Bedouin village in the West Bank
  • Trump has reminded Palestinians that it was always about one state
    • A single secular and democractic "Geographic Palestine" state can be a homeland for all people of and from (and up to n generations removed from) the region.

      A single religion-supremacist "Jewish State" primarily of and for people all over the world who choose to be/come Jewish can only be, well, a religion-supremacist state.

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  • Palestinian who filmed shooting says Azaria sentence ‘is a joke, not justice’
    • || @aak @ February 21, 2017, 3:02 pm ||

      That's a lot of words to express your disappointment that an Israeli Occupation Forces goon wasn't able to literally get away with murder because his very-deliberate summary execution of a wounded and incapacitated non-Israeli in not-Israel was caught on camera.

      Aggressor-victimhood is such a tough gig... :-(

  • Trump is putting the crunch on liberal Zionism
    • ... As Netanyahu knows, the only “one state” that Palestinians are going to “like” — let alone accept — is one in which they are full and equal citizens who get to vote. Demographics dictate that this, in turn, will spell the end of the Jewish state — unless Israel wants to be an undemocratic pariah state ruling over a vast disenfranchised Palestinian population. ...

      So...to preserve Israel as a "Jewish and democratic" state, the "threatening demographic" of non-Jewish Israelis must be kept to a safe minimum. Mr. Cohen effectively drives home the point that "Jewish State" is a religion-supremacist construct.

  • 63 wells destroyed, 5310 trees, 150 doors: a chronicle of the occupation in Hebron district
  • Jews in Iran: a travelogue
    • || Jon66: ... CigarGod misidentifies a woman and assumes she must be Israeli because she is “arrogant” and I’m the one who is wrong? ... ||

      I don't think you're wrong. The woman in question is a Zionist, but that doesn't mean she's Israeli.

      || ... Eljay Not an argument. Just a question. ... ||

      Right, the question was:

      ... if the Israeli government granted the same rights to the Palestinian Israeli minority as the Iranians give to Jews, would the Palestinians be satisfied with those rights?

      I'll re-phrase and re-state my answer: I don't know whether or not non-Jewish Israelis would be satisfied with rights in Israel similar to those granted to Jewish Iranians by Iran, but I don't think they should be put in the position of having to find that out. Non-Jewish Israelis should be given the same rights as Jewish Israelis in a secular and democratic Israel (not a “Jewish State”).

    • || Jon66: Eljay,
      For the sake of argument, let’s assume that a secular democracy is ‘better’ and more ‘moral’ than other forms of government ( it’s a Western centric view, but I do agree with you). ... ||

      Cool. :-)

      || ... I don’t think Israel should model itself after Iran either ... ||

      That's good.

      || ... but if there is no comparison to be made between the two, than what was the point of the article on this website? ||

      The article's final paragraph seems to sum things up quite nicely:

      In Iran I found committed Jews who go about modern life in a seemingly natural manner, without the self-consciousness and identity-splitting of their Ashkenazi brethren. ... their life stands in contrast to a well-oiled campaign to besmirch the history of Jewish-Muslim relations in order to suit ... the agenda of those who argue that there is no safe place for Jews except Israel.

      I don't see how you derive from that an argument that non-Jewish Israelis should have the same rights as Jewish Iranians.

    • || Jon66: I agree that I would like to live in a secular democratic state, but much of the world has other models. many states have official religions. ||

      I think that's unfortunate. But I don't see why Israel - a self-professed "moral beacon", "light unto the nations" and "Western-style democracy" state - should model itself after Iran. There's no reason - other than whataboutery - for it to be anything other than the secular and democratic state of and for all if its Israeli citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally.

    • || Jon66: ... Hypothetical- if the Israeli government granted the same rights to the Palestinian Israeli minority as the Iranians give to Jews, would the Palestinians be satisfied with those rights? ||

      Jewish Iranians should have the same rights as non-Jewish Iranians in a secular and democratic Iran (not an "Islamic State" or a "Persian State").

      Non-Jewish Israelis should have the same rights as Jewish Israelis in a secular and democratic Israel (not a "Jewish State").

      Neither Jewish Iranians nor non-Jewish Israelis should be expected or required to accept anything less.

  • 'NYT' runs Israeli's op-ed recommending that Palestinians 'emigrate voluntarily'
    • Dear so-called "Palestinians",

      The geographic region of Palest...errr, I mean, Judea and Samaria does not belong to you, its indigenous population. It belongs to people all over the world who choose to be/come Jewish - that is, to hold or acquire the religion-based identity of Jewish.

      We have tried over the decades to drive home this point by driving you out of your homes, oppressing you and even murdering you in cold blood; but like so many cockroaches you continue to infest our Promised Land.

      So let's be perfectly clear: While ethnic cleansing is "currently not necessary", we're willing to revisit this and any other "necessary evil" in the not-too-distant future if you refuse to f*ck off and/or die.

      So, please, f*ck off and/or die.

      Yours in eternal supremacism,

      a Zionist.

      P.S. - All hail the Thousand Year "Jewish State".

  • The emergence of the Just Jew
    • || oldgeezer: ... Getting rid of tyranny is a great goal hophead. For millions of Palestinians, who are deprived of basic rights, that tyranny is zionist Israel. Unless it reforms it too needs to go. ||

      hophmi will either ignore your comment or defend his continued support of Zionism and "Jewish State" supremacism by:
      - arguing that because it's Jewish it's not tyranny, it's "self-determination"; and/or
      - engaging in "Saudi Arabia, Mali and African 'hell-holes'" whataboutery.

    • || yonah fredman: Eljay- antisemitism is neither universal nor timeless. ... ||

      Thank you for confirming this.

      || ... To question the phenomenon in the years 1881 to 1945 ... ||

      As far as I can tell, Keith's comment was a counter to the author's sweeping statements:
      - "Jews served as scapegoats for centuries";
      - "History is riddled with examples of Jewish persecution"; and
      - "most notably during the crusades, Spanish inquisition and the Nazi Holocaust".

      You - not he - reduced centuries, history, the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition to "the years 1881 to 1945".

      Anti-Semitism existed, exists and in all likelihood will continue to exist. I condemn it as I condemn all forms of hatred and injustice. And I condemn the notion that acts of injustice and immorality committed against a group justify acts of injustice and immorality committed by that group.

    • || yonah fredman: Keith’s comment dismisses antisemitism asserting that since Rothschilds are rich antisemitism cannot exist. This is ridiculous. ... ||

      Keith's comment appears to counter the assertion that anti-Semitism is universal and timeless - in other words, that every Jewish person everywhere in the world and throughout all of history has suffered and continues to suffer from anti-Semitism. Are you stating that he is wrong?

    • || hophmi: Equality and justice means getting rid of Assad in Syria, ISIS in the Middle East, and tyranny in the Middle East and everywhere else. If you’re not for these things, you’re not a Just anything. ||

      If you're not for the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality, you're not a Just anything. Zionists are not for these things. They are not Just anythings.

  • Banned from Jerusalem (for trying to pay respects to my grandmother)
    • || catalan: ... But I hear so much optimism about the inevitable one state solution why even worry. Everyone here says that the conflict is over, Israel lost. I figure I will just enjoy the upcoming period of global peace and prosperity. ||

      Bringing justice, accountability and equality (JAE) to I-P isn't about magically generating "global peace and prosperity" - it's about upholding and defending international laws and human rights and the protections they are meant to afford to all people.

      Unfortunately this conflicts with the Zionist belief that "Murderers exist, so it's OK to rape."

    • || aloeste: No reason for israel to admit enemies. ... ||

      And yet Israel did admit this "enemy". Go figure.

      Anyway, Jerusalem is a Free City under military occupation and colonization by the rogue "Jewish State" of Israel. Jerusalem does not belong to Israel. It should not be Israel's business who can and cannot enter Jerusalem.

    • || Boris: If she has a poster “No Wall”, why does she wants to go to a wall? ||

      Since Israel says it's a "moral beacon", why does it insist on behaving so immorally?

  • Trump's dim view of Palestine-Israel
    • || amigo: For those interested !!. The debate in the commons on Trump State visit to the UK will take place today ... Theresa May will ignore her people,s wishes and the Queen will put on her best face for this farce.Watch her face when she is shaking hands with this quasi dictator. ... ||

      I wonder if Trump will:
      - tug her toward him when they shake hands; and/or
      - hold her hand and take her for a stroll.

    • ... Perhaps the “state” Trump envisions ...

      I don't think Trump actually "envisions" anything other than crowing about having achieved the "ultimate deal". If I-P manages to work itself out peacefully, he'll gladly take credit for it; if it doesn't, he'll just as gladly point the finger in blame.

  • 'New York Times' on Palestinians sounds like it's opining about 'Negro Problem'
    • || John O: ... If Trump had suggested turning the Al Aqsa Mosque/Wailing Wall into a crazy golf course ... ||

      Such a golf course would be a fabulous golf course, probably - and I'm not joking - without a doubt the greatest golf course in the world or the Middle East or anywhere else, trust me.

    • Zionists:
      - do not care about justice and morality in I-P;
      - do care about how much "Jewish State" injustice and immorality they can get away with.

  • How both Trump and Netanyahu whitewashed antisemitism with 'love'
    • Trump is a narcissistic, petulant man-child and Bibi is a hateful and immoral Zionist hypocrite who celebrates the deliberate slaughter by Jews of thousands of individuals.

      "No light between."

  • Albert Einstein's advice to Jared Kushner
    • || AddictionMyth: Trump unintentionally accelerated Israel’s progress to one-state – with equal rights and full freedom of speech and religion for all. ... ||

      I suspect that a one-state "Jewish State" solution will be less about equal rights, etc., for all than it will be about "necessary evil" against non-Jews. But I could be mistaken.

  • A defense of UCLA student paper's decision to publish Netanyahu cartoon
    • || ... Bloom’s statements were published in the Santa Monica Lookout. ... ||

      ... “I am deeply disturbed that the editors at the Daily Bruin permitted an offensive and anti-Semitic cartoon to be printed in [the] paper,” Bloom wrote.

      He continued, “Criticizing a governmental action, in this particular case, Israeli settlement policies, is responsible journalism. However, calling into question Jewish religious tenets is reckless, immature and blatantly discriminatory.” ...

      Given that the two universal (or at least Judeo-Christian) ethical values are presented in the context of (supposedly secular) Israel and its King, I'm deeply disturbed that Mr. Bloom:
      - reduces them to "Jewish religious tenets"; and
      - "pulls a hophmi" and anti-Semitically reduces Jewish culture, ethnicity, people, nation and civilization just to religion.

  • After exciting disruptions, David Friedman hearing is a walk in the park
    • || captADKer: you got that right. onward now with settlements and one democratic jewish state from river to sea ||

      "[D]emocratic jewish state" sounds a lot like "Jewish and democratic state" - in other words, like a poor disguise for colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist "Jewish State".

    • ... Friedman said he was for the two-state solution, if only the Palestinians would finally accept the existence of Israel, which they don’t want to do ...

      Zionists like Friedman don't want Palestinians to accept the existence of Israel - they want Palestinians to accept the existence of Israel as a colonialist and religion-supremacist "Jewish State" absolved of its obligations under international law (incl. RoR) and of accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes. Palestinians should not be expected or required to accept such an injustice.

  • Palestinians express mixed reactions to Trump's shift from two-state solution
    • || Misterioso: America went to sleep and a self-adoring moron became president.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/world/middleeast/nikki-haley-israel-palestinians-two-state-solution.html?_r=0 ... ||

      ... “Twenty-four hours after President Trump swatted away at a broad international consensus on how to achieve peace between Israelis and Palestinians, his United Nations envoy sought to assure the world on Thursday that his administration supports Palestinian statehood but wants a ‘thinking out of the box’ approach.” ...

      Zionists are happy with "thinking out[side] of the box" as long as Israel:
      - remains a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine; and
      - is absolved of its past and on-going (war) crimes and of its obligations under international law (incl. RoR).

  • Poll: Canada's politicians drastically out of touch with public on Israel
    • || captADKer: BDS = ANTI SEMITISM

      no need to dissect an individual’s heart when it is expressed by an acronym ||

      Ain't that the truth: IDF = ZIONIST TERRORISM

    • || bikingdoc: ... Real truth of the matter is that Israel is the Mideast’s only democracy ... ||

      If by "Mideast's only democracy" you mean "Mideast's only religion-supremacist 'Jewish State'", yes, you're right, it is.

      || ... treats its Muslim population better than nearly any Muslim country does, respects human rights MUCH or the one in the oven its Arab neighbors ... ||

      You can always count on a Zionist to argue "Murders exist, so it's OK to rape."

      || ... and has more historic and legal claims to the disputed lands of Judea and Samaria than the so-called “Palestinians”, since there isn’t now nor has ever been a country called Palestine. ... ||

      The non-Jewish and Jewish indigenous population of geographic Palestine is the only group has the only historic claim to geographic Palestine. The religion-based identity of "Jewish" is not a valid claim to territory or to a supremacist state of any kind.

      || ... Every honest observer middle East knows that Israel is a shining light of democracy amidst a sea of brutal Islamic theocracies. ... ||

      If by "shining light of democracy" you mean "colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist 'Jewish State'", yes, you're right, it is.

      And, once again, you can always count on a Zionist to argue "Murders exist, so it's OK to rape."

  • Liberal supporters of Israel slam Trump's 'terrifying' comments-- some saying Jews need to keep a majority
    • || hophmi: I’m glad we’ve laid bare once again that those who call for a 1SS on the left aren’t interested in binationalism; they’re just interested in ending non-Muslim sovereignty in the Middle East. ... ||

      "non-Muslim sovereignty" has no business existing in the Middle East or anywhere else in the world. Same goes for "Muslim sovereignty".

      || ... Their goals are the same as the goals of ISIS. ||

      Says the guy who hypocritically advocates, justifies and defends his preferred brand of religion-based supremacism. Good one.

    • Time and again, Zionists make it abundantly clear that "Jewish State" supremacism - with or without its ill-fitting "Jewish and democratic" disguise - matters more to them than do justice, accountability and equality.

      Time and again, Zionists make it abundantly clear that they are content to undermine international laws and human rights and the protections they are meant to afford to all people.

  • The day the two greatest salesmen in the world met at the White House
    • || aloeste: ... at the 100th anniversery of six day war these people’s grandchildren will still be here complaining and advocating grandson-of-BDS ||

      Not the hundredth anniversary - the thousandth. You're a Zionist - I'm surprised that you have so little faith in the longevity of your "Jewish State" homeland.

    • Two blowhards under one roof: I'm surprised the turbulence didn't cause the White House to collapse.

  • Trump says he's 'happy' with one-state outcome, ringing in a new era
    • The insatiable greed of Zionists has made the two-state solution all but impossible. Trump is the final nail in its coffin...or, to put it more Zionistically, the final bullet in its skull.

  • Israel interferes in our politics all the time, and it's never a scandal
    • || Jackdaw: The United States just meddled in Israeli politics; which renders Phil’s argument into trash. ||

      The United States meddles in Russian politics; which removes Phil's arguments from the trash, dumps yours into the trash and covers them with moldy food scraps.

  • Donald Trump and the 'ultimate deal'
    • Trump says peace deal will ultimately be up to Israelis, Palestinians

      ... "The United States will encourage a peace [deal] and really a great peace deal," Trump said. "We will be working on it very, very diligently. But it is the parties themselves who must directly negotiate such an agreement."

      The Israelis are going to have to "show some flexibility" and "hold back on settlements for a little bit," said Trump, adding he believes Israeli officials "really want to make a deal." He said the Palestinians will have to acknowledge Israel.

      "There's no way a deal can be made if they're not ready to acknowledge a very, very great and important country. And I also believe that we'll have other players at a very high level, and it might make it easier on the Palestinians and Israel to get something done," Trump said. ...

      When asked about continued U.S. support for a two-state solution instead of one state, Trump said, "I like the one that both parties like. I can live with either one." ...

      It seems fitting that Trump's "ultimate deal" involves the summary execution of justice, accountability and equality in I-P.

  • Netanyahu comes to Trump meeting under pressure to kill Palestinian state
    • || Kaisa of Finland: And before RoHa gets here: Ally, I meant ally (= liittolainen in finnish!!!) As you see I am trying my best here.. eh.. ||

      I'm sure RoHa will accept your apology. He, like Dinsdale Piranha, is "a cruel man...but fair!" :-)

    • ... Trump ... : “They [settlements] don’t help the process. I can say that. There is so much land left. And every time you take land for settlements, there is less land left. But we are looking at that, and we are looking at some other options we’ll see. But no, I am not somebody that believes that going forward with these settlements is a good thing for peace.” ...

      It's mighty nice of him to strongly condemn Israel's blatant colonialism and on-going (war) criminal activity make vague statements about how:
      - the settlements don't help the [peace] process; and
      - his administration is looking at "that" - whatever "that" is - as well as "other options we'll see".

  • 'We cannot divide the land': Israeli academic Yehouda Shenhav on bridging the gap between Israelis and Palestinians through Arabic literature
    • || @Br: If Jews came from Judea, even after being banished by titus and chased across Africa through Spain and up and into eastern Europe they still come from Judea which must absolutely cause caustic ulcers among the anti-zionist/israel crowds so intent on proving Jews from eastern Europe are not from Judea and are really from someplace else. ... ||

      Some people who were Jewish came from geographic Palestine. (And many more people who were not Jewish also came from geographic Palestine.) The Jewish people of Easter Europe came from Eastern Europe.

      This must absolutely cause caustic ulcers among the Zionist / pro-Jewish-supremacism crowd so intent on proving that the religion-based identity of "Jewish" comprises a right to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in geographic Palestine.

      || ... Of course this theory is not only recent and totally bogus but pathetic in its denial of what is so obvious only the most mediocre minded true believers would even entertain the idea in the first place. ||

      Only the most mediocre minded true believers would argue that every person who...
      - undergoes a religious conversion to Judaism; or
      - is descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion to Judaism,
      ...comes from geographic Palestine.

  • Israeli govt and its supporters admit the fight to defeat BDS has failed
    • || aloeste: ... let’s face it , 20 yrs from now our kids will be here , arguing the same , while facts on the ground continue to multiply…. ||

      20 years? Haven't you heard? The "Jewish State" will last a thousand years!

  • 'The way they arrested him was savage': Israeli forces violently detain 14-year-old disabled Palestinian boy
    • Israeli forces stormed Aida refugee camp on Wednesday, arresting Ali Jawarish, a 14-year-old disabled Palestinian boy, who as of today is still being held in Israeli detention. The arrest was caught on video by youth from the camp, and depicts Israeli forces tearing off the boy’s shirt, and violently throwing him into the back of a military jeep. ... Witnesses in the area during the arrest however, told Mondoweiss that after Ali’s shirt was ripped off and he was thrown into the jeep, Israeli forces began beating the teen. ...

      Israeli Terror Forces: Supremacists in Captain Israel underpants.

  • 'We go to heaven, you go to hell': Israeli settlers caught on video threatening to kill Palestinians in Hebron
    • || Boris: Does not sound like the whole story. ||

      The whole story is that supremacist Israeli colonists have no right to parade around not-Israel as though they own the place. You're a Zionist, so it's no surprise that you missed that part.

  • New Israel Fund response to Ben Gurion harassment reinforces very system it claims to oppose
    • || jon s: ... been sort of busy (for happy reasons: my wife and I have just welcomed our first grandson…) ||

      Congratulations! :-)

    • || Talkback: ... You despise terrorism? How on earth do you think that Israel was established? ||

      I don't doubt that jon s despises terrorism - I just think he (as a Zionist) is selective about what constitutes terrorism.

      So, for example, Israel wasn't established using terrorism and ethnic cleansing, it was established through "self-determination" and maybe even a "necessary evil" or two.

    • || eljay: Sibiriak, you’re tiring me out with your yonah- and Mikhael-like level of verbosity ... ||

      Sibiriak, upon reflection I realize that you did not deserve this cheap shot. I apologize for having made it.

    • Sibiriak, you're tiring me out with your yonah- and Mikhael-like level of verbosity, so I'll just say this and then bow out:

      According to quotes I've provided, NIF is a Zionist organization that does many good things in order to secure Israel's future as a state primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews. That's not a culturally-Jewish state, that's a religion-supremacist "Jewish State".

      NIF is content for this "Jewish State" to exist is some part of Palestine. How ever much territory that ends up being is "as much as possible" of Palestine.

      I hope I'm wrong but at this time I don't see that I am. Thanks for the conversation. :-)

    • || jon s: eljay, I believe in equal rights for all, regardless of religion, nationality, race, gender, whatever. So, naturally, I condemn any form of supremacism. ... ||

      jon, you've made it very clear many times that you believe in (and do not condemn):
      - Israel as a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" primarily for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews; and
      - a Zionist "peace" that absolves Israel of its obligations under international law (including RoR) and of accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes.

    • || Sibiriak: ... But that’s not what NIF believes, and you shown no evidence that it is. They’ve never stated that Israel should be entitled to exist as a “religion-supremacist state” in ’67 borders or any other borders. If they have, please quote them verbatim expressing that notion and I will gladly stand corrected. ... ||

      I never claimed they want '67 borders. That was simply an example of "as much as possible".

      || ... Yes you have. You claimed that NIF seeks to: “actualize the vision of” a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”. You quote “actualize the vision of” and you quote “Jewish state”– but you stick your own words, “religion-supremacist” in the middle of those two quotes. Even though you have stated elsewhere that “Jewish state” doesn’t necessarily mean a “religion-supremacist” state. ... ||

      A culturally-Jewish Israel is an Israel whose primary cultural influences are Jewish. As far as I can tell, NIF - like all Zionists - believes in an Israel that is primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews.

      That's not a culturally-Jewish Israel - that's a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" because (and I know you know this because I've said it to you before) Jewish is fundamentally a religion-based identity that can only be acquired by:
      - undergoing a religious conversion to Judaism; or
      - being descended from someone who underwent a religious conversion to Judaism.

      This is all strictly in my most humble opinion. Your mileage may vary.

      || ... You need to demonstrate that for NIF “Jewsh State” means “Jewish-supremacist” state ... ||

      Please see my comment of February 13, 2017, 3:10 pm.

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