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  • Dear Senator Harris, You have been drinking the pro-Israel Kool-Aid
    • || Ossinev: Slightly off topic. New from Zioland that Ahed Tamimi has allegedly accepted a “plea bargained” ...

      ... The Israeli military felt the need to end the legal event, the source said, as it damaged the army's reputation in the media and internationally, which may be why the plea bargain was intensively promoted. ...


      The Israeli military can't afford to have trivial "legal events" damaging its reputation and distracting it from its job of:
      - ensuring Jewish supremacism in/and a religion supremacist "Jewish State";
      - maintaining the on-going occupation and colonization of Palestine; and
      - committing the (war) crimes the state of Israel needs it to commit.

    • My respect to you, Ms. Kisch. May your appeal to Ms. Harris not fall on deaf ears.

  • Jennifer Rubin likens Trump to Hitler in 'blood and soil' ethno-nationalism that threatens Jews
    • || Misterioso: ...

      ... In a separate tweet Dershowitz remarked: ‘If you’re anti-Israel, Nixon’s your candidate.’”

      If you believe that the religion-based identity of Jewish grants to those who choose to hold it the "right":
      - to Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine; and
      - to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them,
      ...Dershowitz is your sleazeball lawyer.

    • ... It matters who you are not as a person but as a matter of identity. That I think is the first big, big problem with Donald Trump. In defining America and governing and campaigning to one segment of the country, to white, primarily Christian, America, he is defining the rest of us out of the country. We are all becoming the other ...

      In defining Israel as a "Jewish State", non-Jewish Israelis are defined out of the country.

      ... It is Jews, just like it’s any other minority group– any other unfavored, non majoritarian group– that requires the rule of law, that requires norms and a pact that puts all Americans regardless of birth on the same playing field. Without that we are subject to the whims of the president just like we are subject to the whims in historical terms of authoritarian leaders and dictators…

      "Jewish State" again.

      The rest of the article is more of the same. Just how tone-deaf can a Zionist get?!

  • We must end the manipulation of history
  • You cannot occupy another people and consider yourself a just society -- Haneen Zoabi, suspended Palestinian legislator
    • ... The ethics committee opined:

      “Using the expression ‘murderers’ in relation to soldiers acting in the state’s name, is unworthy of the broad protection the committee extends to MKs’ political freedom of expression and is a violation of the rule that ‘an MK will act in a way appropriate to his status as an MK and act to foster the public’s confidence in the Knesset.’” ...

      The "ethics" committee appears to be saying:
      - murder committed by soldiers of the state is not murder; and
      - an MK can only "act in a way appropriate to his [or her] status as an MK and act to foster the public’s confidence in the Knesset" if s/he deliberately lies and refers to murder committed by soldiers of the state as something other than murder.

      Those are interesting "ethics".

  • Abbas calls US Ambassador to Israel a 'son of a bitch,' ambassador accuses Abbas of antisemitism
    • || JLewisDickerson:
      MORE LIKE IT: I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword Apache® attack helicopter armed with Hellfire® missiles – yes, says prime minister. ... ||

      But it will surely be the "most moral" Apache® attack helicopter armed with Hellfire® missiles.

    • ... “I saw his response on my iPhone. His response was to refer to me as son of a dog. Is that anti-Semitism or political discourse? I leave that up to you,” Friedman said. ...

      It's definitely not anti-Semitism and it's not as accurate as referring to Friedman as "the opening at the end of the alimentary canal".

      And it's not political discourse either, but neither is Friedman's suggestion that the northern West Bank and (East) Jerusalem are in Israel.

  • Abier Almasri on her first trip out of Gaza at age 31: 'I was allowed to leave – for just a little while'
    • ... I would have to travel without my laptop, any food, or even shampoo and toothpaste, because Israeli authorities forbid Palestinians leaving Gaza from carrying any of these items. I also knew from talking to fellow Gaza residents ... that Israel could always bar me from leaving at the last moment without offering any reason at all … Though, as the crow flies, the distance between my home in the Gaza Strip and Jordan’s capital is less than 100 miles, the trip took us 12 hours. ...

      This story makes no sense. Zionists insist that Gaza is not under occupation by Israel ("Gaza is free to do whatever they like to."), so there's no possible way Israel could bar Ms. Almasri from boarding a flight at an airport in Gaza or forbid her from bringing along whatever accessories she wants.

      Unless...maybe Zionists aren't telling the truth?!  8-o

  • Landmark 'NYT' op-ed by Jewish official blames Israel's leadership for its isolation (not BDS)
    • || Annie Robbins: eljay, not about pressuring Israel to do the (just and moral) right thing

      this reminds me of hophmi’s comment downthread, the empty List of self-critical Palestinian leaders:, as if lauder’s handwringing is “self” criticism, which it is not. ... ||

      hophmi's comment is typical Zionist whataboutism. Everything about Zionism hinges on it being not as bad as something worse.

      || ... wrt to your (and possibly others) perception of “excitement”, i can only speak for myself. and for me it’s more akin to a sense of schadenfreude. unlike me, phil (and many others i presume) doesn’t think anything will change until the jewish community changes. he could be right, maybe it’s here nor there. ... i don’t know if it “excites” phil, i can’t speak for him. but whatever he feels it doesn’t bother me in the least and i for one appreciate him documenting the gradual demise. ||

      Fair enough.

    • || Annie Robbins: eljay, i sort of relish zionist handwringing over their youth. it reminds of the piped piper story. and none of that handwringing will bring those kids back into the zionist fold. once you see it, the apartheid, the injustice, there’s no turning back. ||

      I agree with your comment.

      But I also with Ismail that Lauder's comments...
      - are not about pressuring Israel to do the (just and moral) right thing in order to end "Jewish State" supremacism; but, rather,
      - are about pressuring Israel to do the (Zionist) "right thing" in order to preserve "Jewish State" supremacism,
      ...and I don't understand Phil's excitement over that.

    • || Ismail: I see Lauder’s comments as less encouraging than Phil does. ... ||

      Same here. The way he expresses it may be fresh, but Lauder's deep concern for the survival of "Jewish State" - and his hypocritical disinterest in justice, accountability and equality - is about as stale as it gets.

  • Schumer says he opposed the Iran deal because of 'threat to Israel'
    • || Annie Robbins: one might think it would occur to schumer (at some point) that perhaps pressuring israel to change their policies might produce results that would in turn change people’s perceptions of israel for the better. ... ||

      It likely doesn't occur to Schumer (or Lauder) that the "Jewish State" should change its policies because a core tenet of Zionism is that Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

  • Video: Jewish settler looses attack dog on Palestinian shepherd and flock, maiming sheep
    • || Ossinev: And just when I thought that Zios couldn`t get more absurd: ... ||

      Deeming the police’s case against them to be “weak,” a Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court judge released to house arrest six Palestinians who were arrested Tuesday for allegedly witnessing a fatal stabbing attack in the Old City and doing nothing to intervene.

      Explaining his decision, Judge Eitan Cohen accepted the testimony of the defendants, who claimed that they did not manage to process what was happening in the 34 seconds between the stabbing of Adiel Kolman on Sunday and the police arrival at the scene.
      . . .
      “It seems that it is difficult to unequivocally state that they intentionally did not intervene in the matter,” the judge said, in rejecting the police’s request to extend the suspects’ remand for five days. ...

      I'm sure the "Jewish State" police are upset that they weren't given enough time to interrogate the accused "in the dark, without witnesses and cameras" and extract the right confession.

    • Cry "Am Yisrael Chai!" and let slip the dog of Zionism.

    • || RoHa: Lonely, unpaid, unappreciated. ... ||

      I know I'm just a Canadian (eh?) but for what it's worth I appreciate your attention to grammatical detail. Keep up the good (if lonely and unpaid) work!  :-)

  • 'I found a system of segregated roads' -- Anna Baltzer's path to activism
    • || jon s: ... The moral position is to take a side ... ||

      The moral position is to take a moral position and not just "a side".

      || ... and for me that means taking the side of peace and social justice and democracy. ||

      But never, ever the side of justice, accountability and equality because you:
      - do want Israel to continue to exist as a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine;
      - do not want Israel to have to honour its obligations under international law (incl. RoR); and
      - do not want Israel to be held accountable for its past and on-going (war) crimes.

  • For Bari Weiss, Israel advocacy was both ideology and good career move
    • The disturbing message of Zionist and aspiring Rottenführer Stefan Groever is clear: In an anti-Semitic environment, successful anti-Semites should be viewed as role models because they behave like reasonable people and do the correct thing.

      I still can't comprehend why Zionists hate Jews so much.

  • American Jews need Israel to be safe -- megadonor Paul Singer
    • || Citizen: ... —John Handy ||

      Jack Handey?

    • || Mooser: “eljay” you are receiving contradictory signals. Please tune to the correct high-frequency Hasbara at 65.5 MegaHerzls-per-second. ||

      I'll try, but I'm not sure it's even possible to lock in a station that keeps weaving all over the dial a drunken sock-puppet...

    • || Noodles: ... Israel is a safe haven. ... ||

      ...except for when Zionists declare that it's existentially threatened and perpetually on the verge of being wiped off the map and pushed into the sea.

    • The religion-based identity of Jewish does not grant to those who choose to embrace it the right:
      - to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State"; or
      - to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      And Jews don't "need" a supremacist state any more than do women, homosexuals or people with disabilities, all of whom have also suffered mightily throughout history.

  • There are only two kinds of Jews, Schumers and Feinsteins
    • || eljay: ... That doesn’t make him ...

      Correction: ... That didn't make him ...

    • || Mayhem: @eljay, Jews have achieved disproportionately in their contribution to humanity compared to non-Jews. ||

      Stephen Hawking achieved disproportionately in his contribution to humanity compared to Jews. That doesn't make him "more equal" than either Jews or non-Jews.

      Anyway, thanks for proving my point.

    • || Jackdaw: Doesn’t destroy anything. ... ||

      Sure it does.

      || ... I remember reading that British Intelligence found an Arab car bomb in an Arab garage, which discovery preceded the Lehi truck bomb in Jaffo. ... ||

      Jackdaw Intelligence fails again: Your claim was about a bombing ("First car bombing ever!"). A bomb (in an "Arab garage") is not the same as a bombing (by Jewish supremacists in Jaffa).

    • || Mayhem: “Feinsteins believe that all people are equal.”
      What a load of codswallop. ... ||

      I agree. Zionists have made it abundantly clear that Jews are "more equal" than non-Jews.

    • || Jackdaw: @ weak and suckered ... ||

      ...says lame and pathetic. What on earth was Konrad thinking?!

      || ... The Jewish truck bomb may have preceded the Arab truck bomb ... ||

      Not may, did. Which destroys your claim that "Arabs" committed the "First car bombing ever!"

    • || Jackdaw: @marcb

      Well, the Arabs did start it with bloody pogroms in the 1920’s.
      Am I wrong ... ? ||

      Your claim was that Arabs "started it" with car bombings ("First car bombing ever!"). Are you wrong? Yup, you're wrong.

    • || Tuyzentfloot: ... I have a book by Lorenz somewhere, something about animals. I forgot the title but I recall I liked it. About how smart his dog was , and his raven. ||

      A dog and a raven are to a "highly intelligent" Jackdaw jackdaw what Plato, Aristotle and Socrates are to Vizzini: Morons.

    • || Jackdaw: ... 1948 Palestine Post building bombed by Arab terrorists. First car bombing ever! ... ||

      Car bomb - history:

      ... The first possible suicide car bombing (and possibly the first suicide bombing) was the Bath School bombings of 1927 ...

      Mass-casualty car bombing, and especially suicide car bombing, is currently a predominantly Middle Eastern phenomenon. The tactic was first introduced to the region by the Stern Gang, who used it extensively against Palestinian and British military targets ...

      You continue to keep ol' Konrad Lorenz spinning in his grave.

    • || Yonah Fredman: ... By including beinart and Roger Cohen on the right side of history Phil Weiss has earned a thumbs down from the choir here, which demands purity. ... ||

      IMO moderate Jewish supremacists (Zionists) don't belong on the "right side of history" any more than do moderate anti-Semites. But since you and your choir don't believe in "demanding purity" you go right ahead and embrace moderate anti-Semitism.

    • || LHunter: Eljay – oops ... ||

      No worries - it's not as though you mistook me for a Zionist! ;-)

    • || LHunter: ... Of course there is the third “kind” of Jew – the non-Zionist variety like Phil Weiss or Mooser or Eljay. ||

      I'm honoured to be mentioned alongside Phil and Mooser, but I'm not Jewish (or, as Nathan would have me say, I am not of the Jews).

    • ... Feinsteins believe that all people are equal. ...

      Dianne Feinstein:

      ... your government’s efforts ... not only directly imperil a two-state solution, but we believe also endanger Israel’s future as a Jewish democracy. We urge you to change course so that you do not foreclose the possibility of establishing two states for two peoples. ...

      Feinsteins appear to be "liberal Zionsts".

      About Dianne / Foreign Affairs:

      Senator Feinstein believes the only way to secure Israel as a democratic, Jewish state is to establish an independent Palestinian state by its side. ...

      Yup, "liberal Zionist".

  • Israel 'made a desert bloom' -- and I helped -- Kamala Harris to AIPAC
    • ... On that occasion, Senator Harris proved herself to be another ardent Israel supporter in Congress ... “a state for the Jewish people is so essential,” ...

      Except that it isn't essential and the religion-based identity of Jewish does not grant to those who choose to hold it the right to have one.

      ... And as I fight to promote human rights and security, Israel and the Jewish community will always be a priority for me. ...

      When asked about Palestinians, who have been denied human rights and security for decades, Ms. Harris smiled and replied, Pallywhatians? Oh, you mean anti-Semitic, Jew-hating Ayrabs. Well, I say f*ck 'em.

  • 'NYT' free speech advocate Bari Weiss reportedly helped bring down a Columbia dean over 'intellectual heresy'
    • || Yonah Fredman: How Columbia University should deal with a f***face like that guy, I don’t know, but his holocaust denial statements were slime and scummy and would fit right in here in the mw comments. ||

      Yup, he would fit right with the Zionist f***faces here at MW.

    • ... Since that thread, Sam has followed up with such excellent responses as:

      It’s morally bankrupt to try to purge an academic institution of critics of Israel, which is eminently deserving of criticism. Contra Weiss et al, Israel not is above reproach. The U.S. and other Arab states are never afforded that protected status nor should they be.


      The "Jewish State" is "singled out" for special treatment...and Zionists aren't outraged. Go figure.

  • Rabbi Cardozo: outlawing circumcision would 'end the state of Israel'
    • || Yonah Fredman: ... Those who await the disappearance of the jews with glee are overrepresented in the mw comments section. ||

      What puzzles me is why you insist on making the continued existence of "the jews" contingent on a questionable practice like circumcision and on support for a colonialist, (war) criminal and religion-supremacist "Jewish State" when the only thing "the jews" need in order to continue existing is Judaism and, as far as I can tell, no-one here is awaiting the disappearance of that faith.

    • || RoHa: Those are the top eight of the top ten? ... ||

      Hush! It's anti-Semitic to suggest that 8 is not 10.

    • || MHughes976: It’s very interesting, Yonah, that your list does not include anything implying a Jewish sovereign state ... ||

      Zionists insist that Jewish is about more than just religion - it's also about tribe, culture, ethnicity, people, nation and civilization - so one expects a short list of Jewish traditions to have at least a few that are not religion-based. But y.f.'s list does not. That's interesting but not at all surprising given the Zionist penchant for contradicting themselves and reducing Jewish to religion.

    • || jon s: I think that the mondoweiss editors showed very poor judgement in posting this piece.
      On the other hand, it’s instructive to see the reactions. We’ll remember them next time we see that “I’m anti Zionist, not anti Jewish” slogan. ||

      Opposition to circumcision neither transforms anti-Zionism into anti-Semitism nor justifies the past and on-going (war) crimes of Zionists.

    • || Mooser: WTF is wrong with you “Jon s”? You get tired of beating us over the head with the Holocaust, so now you threaten us with hurting your own children if you don’t get what you want! ... ||

      What could possibly go wrong with a Jew defiantly proclaiming that he and other Jews are prepared to break the law and - in secret, in dark basements, hidden from society - perform on babies a ritual that involves the cutting of flesh and the spilling and suctioning of blood?

    • || catalan: ... Every rule has its exceptions. Hitler liked dogs for instance and I like dogs too. ... ||

      I oppose rape, pedophilia, genital mutilation, spousal abuse, elder abuse, torture, murder and genocide, so you consider them to be “good and beautiful” things.

      The rule is that most people - including me - dislike Hitler, but you're the exception to that rule.

      Well, at least you're consistently f*cked up.

      Another round of sympathies for your son.

    • || catalan: ... My understanding is that Israel will be forced to withdraw to partition borders and accept all refugees using BDS. ... ||

      That's news to me.

    • || Yonah Fredman: Some thoughts: If only the tradition of the Jews was as anodyne as banjo playing on the porch or talking in tongues in church, but it’s a far thornier ball of wax, including tribal initiation of our male infants. ... ||

      The ball of wax is only as thorny as you wish to make it. Nothing prevents Jews from developing a tribal initiation that does not involve cutting skin off babies' penises.

      || ... the idea of ... brisses being held in secret certainly has an allure to my sense of adventure and intrigue. ... ||

      I wonder if you have any idea how creepy that sounds.

    • || gamal: ... honestly judging by his avatar looks he could control anyone from behind ... ||

      Nah, I'm not big, strong or controlling. That avatar shows a "Jewish State" Zionist Jew oppressing a non-Zionist Jew. So much for tribal unity (as Mooser might say).

    • || jon s: ... eljay, I understand that your answer is yes, that you would support legislation banning Jewish ritual circumcision. ... ||

      No, my answer is that I support banning ALL circumcision unless:
      - it is medically necessary for someone below the age of consent; or
      - the patient is above the age of consent and has given his consent.

      Enough with the arrogance that "Jewish" is somehow more special than "human".

    • || catalan: ... Thanks eljay for confirming that it was a great decision to circumcise my son. ... ||

      My sympathies to your son.

      || ... For me a sure proof that something is good and beautiful is that you oppose it. ... ||

      It is truly disturbing that you consider things like rape, pedophilia, gential mutilation, spousal abuse, elder abuse, torture, murder and genocide to be "good and beautiful" things.

      Additional sympathies to your son.

    • || RoHa: O.K. I would regard you as a hero. ||

      Much appreciated. :-)

    • || jon s: ... Do you think that ... circumcision should be outlawed? ||

      Below the age of consent, no male should be circumcised unless it is medically necessary.

      Above the age of consent, knock yourself out.

    • || RoHa: ... When eljay attacks a would-be rapist in defence of the supermarket checkout girl, we regard him as a hero. ... ||

      With my luck, the guy would turn out to be a Jewish Zionist who believed he was entitled to self-determine himself on/in that Palestinian girl's geography and:
      - hophmi would accuse me of anti-Semitism;
      - Steve Grover would accuse me of wanting to be a Nazi;
      - jon s would report some soccer scores;
      - catalan would recite his CV...again; and
      - yonah would type out seven long, depressing and quasi-incomprehensible paragraphs about the Jewish condition.

    • ... What those Jews who oppose circumcision should never forget is that the attempt to outlaw this rite may not just make Jewish life impossible, but would probably end all Jewish existence. ...

      Is he right - Jews, Jewishness and the religion-supremacist "Jewish State" amount to absolutely nothing unless skin is removed from babies' penises - or is he just a loon? (Or is he both?)

      ... "What these well-meaning people, especially Jews, have to realize is that the whole premise on which these objections are based is the result of a profound misunderstanding of what human beings are all about, what moves them, and what makes their lives meaningful." ...

      I'm a human being. Skin being removed from a baby's penis is not what I am all about, it's not what moves me and it's not what makes my life meaningful.

      Or was he suggesting that non-Jews don't count as human beings?

      ... “Like a piece of paper that carries the buying power of a certain dollar amount, the body serves as the vessel that holds the soul. Just as the symbolic markings on the bill inform us of the value assigned to it by the treasury department, so too does the ‘sign’ that parents inscribe on the bodies of their children reveal the greatness of the souls they house”, he writes. ...

      My parents had me circumcised (the way it was explained to me, it was a relatively new procedure in my small hometown and I was offered up as a 'guinea pig'). Muslims are circumcised. Do the markings on our bills assign to us an equal or lesser value than is assigned to Jews with marked bills?

  • Netanyahu in DC: I don't want Palestinian 'subjects' but the West Bank will remain 'militarily under Israel'
    • || Elizabeth Block: Not citizens. Not “subjects” (what is he, a king?). What, then? Graves? ||

      Maybe that he can justify exterminating them.

    • The rapist broke into the woman's home, chained her in his basement, abused her for weeks...and now he's arguing that he should be in charge of security in her home because she can't be trusted to treat him right.

      The Zionist mind is a disturbingly hateful and immoral place.

      ... “I think there’s a new hope on the horizon ... it’s related to the Arab world. Because of the growing danger of Iran, more and more, I would say virtually all the Arab countries, no longer see Israel as their enemy, but as their vital ally in countering the threat of militant Islam,” he said. ...

      And so, he continued, you can bet we're going to continue to stoke the flames of militant Islam to the best of our abilities.

  • Israeli left leader praises Trump and bewails 'Palestinian majority' and 'Palestinian narrative'
    • Ms. Shaffir demonstrates that "leftist" or "rightist" doesn't matter fundamentally when it comes to Zionism: All Zionists want Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine. The main difference is who does the dirty work and who "holds their noses".

  • Zionism, anti-Semitism, Israel — and the UK Labour party
    • || Tom Suarez: ... Bluntly put: Zionism, taken at its word, claims that Jews, by virtue of being Jews, support ethnic cleansing, ethnic subjugation, and ethnically predicated atrocities. THAT is profoundly anti-Semitic. ... ||

      And par for the Zionist course. In the words of JeffB, a "dirty work" Zionist:

      There is nothing anti-Semitic with blaming Jews for stuff that Jews institutionally support. … Not holding the Jews responsible for Jewish policy on the excuse that “well some Jews didn’t agree” is denying them agency. ...


      Jews in America have chosen to identify with and institutionally support Israel. While not Israeli, they are cousins. As such they get some degree of collective credit for Israelis achievements and some degree of blame for Israel’s failings.

      With friends like these, non-Zionist Jews don't need enemies.

  • With gags, props, and slides, Israel's Netanyahu warns of Iran at AIPAC
    • ... In his harshest moments on stage, Netanyahu ramped up his rhetoric from previous condemnations of Iran. He made biblical comparisons to the Story of Ester, where Iran today was likened to the figure of Hamen, a loathsome oppressors of ancient Persian Jews who “attempt[ed] to exterminate our people. They failed then. They’ll fail now. ... "

      We know from Esther 8 and 9 that in those days Jews were given free reign to slaughter non-Jews and so - with the help of "the rulers of the provinces, and the lieutenants, and the deputies, and officers of the king" - they proceeded to slaughter over 75,000 people.

      I shudder to think how many Iranians Bibi - along with whatever allies he can muster to help with the dirty work - intends to slaughter once he and his "Jewish State" get permission to do so.

      (jon s no doubt looks forward to the "happy, kid-friendly, carnival-style holiday" that will follow.)

  • Schumer and Dems outdo Trump at AIPAC-- there's no peace because 'Palestinians don't believe in Torah'
    • || Mayhem: Acording to Noor Dahri, the director of Pakistan Israel Alliance (PIA) and Editor in Chief of the Newspaper Pak Israel News it is mandatory upon all Muslims to support Israel and her right to exist in the holy land because the holy book of Islam, the Quran supports Israel. ... he quoted just three [verses] to justify the right of the existence of Israel. ... ||

      Neither of those two (not three) verses mentions Israel, "Jewish State" or "right to exist".

    • Ziosplaining:
      - The Holocaust - not Judaism - is the reason "the Jews" are entitled to geographic Palestine.
      - Judaism - not the Holocaust - is the reason "the Jews" are entitled to geographic Palestine.
      - The Holocaust and Judaism are the reasons "the Jews" are entitled to geographic Palestine.

      I wonder how Zionists like Schumer determine which Ziosplanation to use on which day.

    • ... Now, let me tell you why – my view, why we don’t have peace. Because the fact of the matter is that too many Palestinians and too many Arabs do not want any Jewish state in the Middle East. The view of Palestinians is simple, the Europeans treated the Jews badly culminating in the Holocaust and they gave them our land as compensation.

      Of course, we say it’s our land, the Torah says it, but they don’t believe in the Torah. So that’s the reason there is not peace. They invent other reasons, but they do not believe in a Jewish state and that is why we, in America, must stand strong with Israel through thick and thin…

      Mr. Schumer:
      - scoffs at the "simple" Palestinian view that supremacist foreign Jews occupied and colonized Palestine and established in it a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" because Europeans gave it to them as compensation for the Holocaust;
      - offers up the "complex" view that supremacist foreign Jews occupied and colonized Palestine and established in it a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" because the felt that their Jewish "holy book" entitled them to do it; and
      - marvels at the intolerance of Palestinians, Palestine's indigenous population.

      I'm aware that Mr. Schumer is a hateful and immoral Jewish supremacist (Zionist). I wasn't aware that he's also a idiot.

  • Long walk to equality and freedom: 70 years of AFSC supporting Palestinian struggle in Gaza
    • || mon donut: @eilijay

      So now Gaza IS Palestine. ... ||

      When was it not?

      || ... As for the lame Israeli analogy, I sure as hell would not call Israelis within Israel refugees. ||

      So you're saying that if Israel were reduced to a couple of small, “Arab”-controlled regions within geographic Palestine, you would be telling the Jewish Israelis confined to the narrow strip running from Haifa to Tel Aviv to quit bitching because they are home.

      Man, you are heartless.

    • || mon donut: @elijay

      So Gaza is NOT Palestine. Got it. ||

      As usual, you got it wrong. Israeli-controlled Gaza is only one part of Palestine, just like the basement the woman is chained in is only one part of her home.

      If Israel were reduced to a couple of small, "Arab"-controlled regions within geographic Palestine, you wouldn't be telling the Jewish Israelis confined to the narrow strip running from Haifa to Tel Aviv to quit bitching because they are home.

    • || mon donut: So I guess that I can expect from you an idiotic reply to each and comment I make.

      You cannot expect an idiotic reply to each comment you make, nor can you expect a reply to each idiotic comment you make.

      || ... It would not be half bad if you could ever substitute the unending invective for something intelligent. ... ||

      It would not be half bad if you could ever substitute the unending, smug, self-righteous supremacism for humanity and morality.

      || ... But for the record, and in much, much simpler terms (just for you), the point I was making was that Palestine declares themselves as a state and Gaza as their sovereign territory. ... ||

      For record, I got your point. And in ridiculously simpler terms (just for you), just as the woman's basement under lock and key is not her house, neither is Gaza alone and under Israeli military control the state of Palestine.

    • || mon donut: Gaza is Palestine, is it not? And the residents are Palestinians residing in Palestine – so they are home. ||

      The basement is in the woman's home, is it not? And the woman is currently in the basement and therefore in her home, is she not? Sure, she's been chained down there by the man who broke in during the night and who is currently physically and sexually abusing her – but she is home.

  • Nine reasons Israel is not a 'progressive paradise'
    • || Mayhem: @Jackdaw, the naysayers bring up Saudi Arabia as though it is the only country to be compared to Israel. ... ||

      Of course it's not the only country: Once you Zionists have praised the "Jewish State" as a "moral beacon", a "light unto the nations", a "Western-style democracy" and a "progressive paradise", you then invariably defend it by comparing it to Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark and Canada Saudi Arabia, Mali, African "hellholes", China and 19th century America and pointing out that it's not quite as bad as those states.

    • || Annie Robbins @ March 10, 2018, 2:03 pm ||

      I'm not saying that it would be easy or that it would be done for the "right reasons". But if the majority of people within a defined "Kurdish" geographic region were to vote democratically to establish an independent – and secular and democratic – Kurdish state, etc., it would be hypocritical of me not to support it. So I would support it.

      I really hope Jackdaw is smart enough to comprehend that this does not constitute a "gotcha!" re. the whole religion-supremacist "Jewish State" thing. But I have a feeling that he's going to disappoint me.

    • || Jackdaw: @eljay

      Maybe you can answer this question.
      How come Mondoweiss supports freedom for Palestinians, but doesn’t support freedom for the Kurds? ||

      I can't answer on behalf of Mondoweiss. All I can say is that if the people of the geographic region comprising (claimed) Kurdistan were to vote democratically to establish an independent - and secular and democratic - Kurdish state of and for all of its citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally, I'd support it.

    • || Jackdaw: @eljay ... you are right. Israel is not an unqualified “progressive paradise”, nor is she a ‘moral beacon” or “light unto the nations”. ... ||

      You and I know this, but plenty of your fellow Zionists - including Jennifer Granholm - either haven't gotten the memo or haven't bothered to read it.

    • || Jackdaw: @Assinev

      Okay. Than you should have no problem naming a Middle Eastern country more progressive than Israel.
      Spit out the name of a country. Any country.

      %^$# loser! ||

      If you are representative of the jackdaws Nobel Prize winner Konrad Lorenz observed, I'd have him stripped of that honour.

      Israel may very well be the most progressive country in the Middle East, but that does not make it an unqualified "progressive paradise" or, for that matter, a "moral beacon" or "light unto the nations" state.

      %^$# fool.

    • || Jackdaw: If you can’t answer my question, then don’t comment. ||

      If you don't like my comments, then don't ask questions.

    • || catalan: ... It looks like the Saudis are, for the first time in history, opening their airspace to Israeli bound planes. Israel’s trade with India, Brazil, Russia, Turkey, the EU, Africa is booming. I guess it’s not just Zionists that like Israel. ||

      That's nice, even though it doesn't change the fact that Zionists consistently:
      – promote Israel as being at least as good as the best (“moral beacon”, “light unto the nations”, “progressive paradise”); and then
      – defend Israel by comparing it to bottom-of-the-barrel states (Saudi Arabia, Mali, African “hellholes”, etc.).

    • || Jackdaw: ... Where in the Middle East is there a more progressive country than Israel. ... ||

      It's funny how you Zionists consistently:
      - promote Israel as being at least as good as the best ("moral beacon", "light unto the nations", "progressive paradise"); and then
      - defend Israel by comparing it to bottom-of-the-barrel states (Saudi Arabia, Mali, African "hellholes", etc.).

      Jim: Dave is a decent and moral person and a truly wonderful human being!
      Bob: Dave is a rapist.
      Jim: Yeah, but he's not a serial killer.

    • || Yonah Fredman: 38 to 26, the ratio of sympathy of liberal democrats favoring palestinians over Israel is only close to 2 to 1 if you suffer from innumeracy. ||

      If you suffer from illiteracy, you scoff at the claimed ~2:1 ratio of the numbers 38 to 26 even though the numbers are actually 35 and 19, a ratio of ~2:1.

    • ... Jennifer Granholm ... referred to Israel as a “progressive paradise” that is a “role model for other nations including America.” ...

      Israel is always a "moral beacon" and "light unto the nations" state...except for when it's not quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali, African "hellholes", etc.

  • Identity as pathology
    • || RoHa: ... I’m not Jew, and I can usually remember who I am, but if I forget all I need to do is look at my driving licence or ask my wife. ... ||

      Will either of them tell you if you're Canadian?

    • || Yonah Fredman: ... Jew is a complex ball of wax especially when confronted with the heat of modernity and the durability of jew hatred. ... ||

      - modernity makes Jews squishy and vulnerable to deformity by durable "Jew hatred"; so,
      - the solution is to keep Jews safely isolated away from both modernity and "Jew hatred".

      Does the solution work well for self-loathing Jews who cannot be isolated from their own "Jew hatred"? Will isolation from modernity sufficiently firm them up against deformation?

      || ... Whatever… indeed the inherent conflict is my daily bread. ... ||

      Just so long as there's no mayonnaise involved.

      || ... War is not conducive to normalcy. That the journey away from exile, dispersion, confusion, in the post faith era, led to a state at constant war, is thornier than one might wish. ... ||

      Yeah, things can get thorny when people with a shared, religion-based identity living in homelands all over the world decide to commit terrorism, ethnic cleansing, colonialism and sundry (war) crimes in order to establish a religion-supremacist state for themselves.

  • Israeli army's lies can no longer salvage its image
    • ... A half-century of occupation has not only corrupted generations of teenage Israeli soldiers who have been allowed to lord it over Palestinians. It has also needed an industry of lies and self-deceptions to make sure the consciences of Israelis are never clouded by a moment of doubt – that maybe their army is not so moral after all.

      The Zionist mind is resilient and has the amazing ability to transform evil into virtue.

  • AIPAC panics over progressives abandoning Israel
    • || Kaisa of Finland: “I can live and work anywhere in the EU as long as I am alive..”

      Well, since you have lived outside EU for so long time and have a citizenship to another country you can be banned entering EU, if so decided. ||

      It's all hypothetical anyway, given that less than a year ago that he wrote:

      ... I still have my European citizenship but I never visit and in all honesty may never again go there. ...

    • || catalan: ... But the conviction that you will coerce Israel “into compliance” through the tactics of boycott is a delusion ... ||

      You've nailed it once again: BDS isn't effective and it "singles out the world's only 'Jewish State'". So the world needs to stop fooling around and start getting down to the business of harsh economic sanctions, aerial bombardment, devastation, destabilization and regime change.

    • || catalan: ... The nukes matter. They mean that you can shout abuse online but you cannot touch Israel. ||

      Threats against Israel: Shouts of abuse online.
      Threats against Iran and North Korea: Economic sanctions, aerial bombardment, devastation, destabilization, regime change.

      The regimes of Iran and North Korea thank you for so eloquently making their cases for nuclear armament.

    • || catalan: ... Does your theory explain ... ||

      My theory? You're the self-identified New Mexican from Bulgaria via Spain (you guess) who claims to have nukes.

    • || Annie Robbins: we? you mean israelis? ... ||

      He's not Israeli, so he must have meant Bulgarians who hail from Spain (they guess) and live in New Mexico.

    • ... Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat and former Michigan governor, devoted much of her speech to an effort to maintain progressive support for Israel. She said she had fallen in love with the country on three visits– and cited Israeli government policies that are still progressive causes in the U.S.

      “As a progressive, I saw a nation that provides universal health care, a nation that protects women’s rights and LGBT rights,” she said. “It’s a progressive’s paradise.”

      Granholm went on that, “I am not blind. I won’t argue that Israel is perfect.” The country struggles to get better every day, she asserted, but she said nothing about occupation or settlements of discrimination against Palestinian citizens. ...

      She's not blind, just horribly myopic...and her eyes are closed...and she's facing the wrong way.

      ... Daniel Gordis, an Israeli author, acknowledged that Israel had failed to treat Palestinians as equals, so that it’s not an easy fit for progressives. ...

      “We are not a liberal democracy, we’re an ethnic democracy… Israel is in the business of perpetuating a certain people and a certain religious community. That’s its goal. That’s its business.” ...

      It's nice of Mr. Gordis to acknowledge the obvious:
      - Israel is "in the business" of Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine; and, therefore,
      - Palestinians are treated as second-class citizens.

  • Jared Kushner's swift rise and long, long fall
    • || Steve Grover: ... ||

      Look who's back for another swim and a drink.

      || ... Its funny Eljay I know a Jew here and there. They are all Zionists. ... ||

      Amazing! It's like those Muslims in ISIS who know a Muslim here and there and - whaddaya know - they are all Muslim supremacists.

      || ... Anyway Eljay, you gotta give up on your dream of being a Rottenfüher in the SS. ||

      It's tragic - and very telling - that the Zionist mind equates the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality with Nazism. But I suppose all supremacists - birds of a hateful and immoral feather - feel the same way.

    • || Steve Grover: Weiss,
      You forgot to mention that Jared Kushner kicked your ass out of the New York Observer and that your ass is still sore. His power in D.C. is decreasing but he won’t be joining you in the toilet of Israel hatred and anti-Semitism anytime soon. ||

      Says the Zionist who regularly swims and even drinks from the "toilet of Israel hatred and anti-Semitism" he perceives MW to be. But that makes sense: He's a Zionist and - for reasons I still cannot comprehend - Zionists seem to really hate Jews.

  • 18-year-old fisherman killed by Israeli forces off the coast of Gaza
    • || Jackdaw: ... I believe that the Arabs will not negotiate in good faith because for them, and most Westerners cannot get this, this is a zero-sum game. ‘We win everything, you get nothing’. ... ||

      I believe that the Zionists will not negotiate in good faith because for them, and most Westerners cannot get this, this is a zero-sum game. ‘We win everything, you get nothing’.

      || ... The Arabs are playing a waiting game. Sixty years, one hundred years, two hundred years. How ever long it takes until Israel collapses, but NOT a negotiated settlement. ||

      Little do "the Arabs" know that the Zionists' waiting game is a Thousand Years! Anything but a negotiated settlement.

    • Whether on not-Israeli land or at not-Israeli sea, it's all in a day's work for Israeli Occupation and Oppression Forces to summarily execute not-Israelis.

  • One State Foundation launches today
    • || mon donut: Recent surveys show that 30 to 40 percent of Israelis support the 1SS along with the Palestinian right of return?

      I have to call BS on that. ||

      Dunno. 20% of Israelis are not Jewish, so I imagine there's a very small percentage of non-Jewish Israelis who support Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine.

      And I would like to believe that at least 10% of Jewish Israelis are not hateful and immoral Jewish supremacists (Zionists).

      But you could be right: Maybe most Jewish Israelis really are nothing more than hateful and immoral Jewish supremacists (Zionists).

  • In calling for end of Jewish state, Avraham Burg is painted as 'troublemaker' at liberal NY synagogue
    • || Annie Robbins: ... how much of your jewish identity is exile? ||

      Some portion of what isn't already allocated to circumcision and Holocaust.

    • || Mooser: In order to prevail, Zionism needs at least ten million Jews in Palestine, not the 5.5-6.5 million they have now. ||

      Does Jewish prevalence require a threshold...
      - number of Jews; or
      - ratio of Jews to non-Jews?

      If the latter, never fear: It seems as though there are plenty of Zionists ready and willing to expel and/or exterminate sufficient non-Jews in order to achieve the required ratio.

    • || Steve Grover: ... cheapest and shoddiest built grogger. ||

      At first glance that phrase read "cheapest and shoddiest built grover". Go figure.

    • || eljay: ... but the comparably vague claim ... ||

      Correction: ... but the comparatively vague claim ...

    • || Sibiriak: ... C’mon. Own up to it. ||

      What do you want me to "own up to"? I admit that there are many things in life I am unable to appreciate and one of those things is the celebration of an event that involves the deliberate massacre of over 75,000 individuals. But I have no problem with the fact that the "popular Jewish holiday" of Purim exists or that Jews celebrate it. That's their business.

      || Yitzchak Goodman: Your point involved reducing the holiday to nothing more than glee over someone’s death. ... ||

      Consider my point a counter-point to jon s' sanitization of mass murder committed by Jews.

      || ... I hope I’m spared the eljay take on Passover ... ||

      I hope I'm spared your disturbing take that Jews sing songs extolling the joys of murder.

      || jon s: Eljay,
      I would’t take the number 75,000, like other population figures in the bible, too seriously.
      Even if we assume that the number is accurate, they were not innocent people. ||

      So...the detailed description of the massacre of over 75,000 people should not be taken seriously, but the comparably vague claim that every single person who was massacred deserved to die should be taken seriously. Interesting.

      Anyway, I have nothing else to add to this discussions, so I'll just sign off with the following words of wisdom:
      Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!  :-)

    • || jon s: ... Jews are not invaders in the historic Jewish homeland. ||

      Geographic Palestine is not the "historic homeland" of every person in the world - citizens of homelands all over the world - who choose to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish.

    • || Yitzchak Goodman: ... That’s right, we’ll be singing those traditional Purim songs: “75,000 smiles on my face,” “We love death,” and “No accidental massacres for us.” Freilechen Purim! ||

      I guess there's no better way to value heritage, traditions and identity and to want to pass them on to future generations than in song during a happy, kid-friendly, carnival-style holiday.

    • || jon s: Eljay,
      So now you have a problem with a popular Jewish holiday? ... ||

      I didn't say I had a problem with the holiday. I said that your segue was strange.

      || ... It’s a holiday which commemorates a story in which the Jews avoided genocide and succesfully defended themselves. ... ||

      And massacred over 75,000 people. I get it.

    • || Nathan: ... Although the Palestinians are the weaker side of the conflict, they nevertheless have the power to define the parameters of peace. ... The conflict will end only when the Palestinian side declares that “it’s over and we have no further grievances”. ... ||

      Wow, so all the Palestinians have to do is...
      - define the parameters of peace; and
      - declare "it’s over and we have no further grievances",
      ...and Zionists will willingly...
      - accept those parameters; and
      - end the conflict accordingly.

      The only thing more impressive than this assertion is how quickly you'll waffle and backtrack on it.

      || ... We should be debating ideas and proposals that the Palestinians would accept as the formula for ending the conflict once and for all. ||

      I'm blown away: You managed to do it within the same post!

    • || jon s: ... it’s entierly understandable and natural for people to value their heritage, traditions and identity and to want to pass them on to future generations...

      Which reminds me: Happy Purim to all those celebrating! ||

      What a strange segue...
      - from explaining the desire to value heritage and traditions and pass them on;
      - to wishing a happy celebration of the deliberate massacre by Jews of over 75,000 non-Jews.

    • || jon s: ... I also disagree with you statement that the zionists wanted to relocate the Palestinians. By and large, mainstream zionists sought to live in peace with them. ||

      Yup, nothing says "live in peace with" an indigenous population like occupying and colonizing as much of their territory as possible and establishing in it a religion-supremacist state.

    • || Misterioso: ... Perhaps the greatest fear Zionist Jews have is demographics ... ||

      Yup, to Jewish supremacists (Zionists) non-Jewish human beings are a "demographic threat".

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