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eljay

I'm a happily-married, vegetarian and atheist Canadian with two wonderful cats. :-)

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  • Adelson is helping Gingrich, as he once helped Bush
    • >> "We do not believe that recognition of Israel as a Jewish State should detract in any way from the vision of equality for all its citizens enshrined in its founding documents," the report says.

      There is no vision of equality in a religion-supremacist "Jewish state".

      >> "It is in the interests of all Israelis to demonstrate that Israel is not only Jewish and democratic, but tolerant and inclusive, and that these are patriotic values.

      How exactly is Jewishness a "patriotic value" to non-Jews?

  • Settlers torch West Bank mosque, second attack in two days
    • >> I can’t understand why Witty (the “peacemaker”) hasn’t shown up to rub our faces in this wonderful display of “liberal Zionism”

      My guess is that he's busy either:
      - holding his nose; or
      - employing "personal spiritual discipline" to help him accept and justify Israeli violence, immorality and injustice.

  • Israel's war on Christmas --Updated
    • Not sure what all the fuss is about: Christmas trees having nothing to do with Nazareth, Jesus or Christianity.

      That being said...
      >> "When we asked the mayor to put up a Christmas tree in the Arab neighbourhoods of Nazareth Illit he said this is a Jewish town, not a mixed town," said Shukri Awawdeh, a Muslim Arab member of the town council.

      Now this is something to get upset about. Towns in Israel are - or should be - Israeli towns. Shame on the mayor of Nazareth Illit for failing to "humanize 'the Other'" and "make 'better wheels'".

      And lucky for the non-Jewish Israeli citizens of Nazareth Illit that they're too far from the '67 border to be bureaucratically cleansed from their country of Israel.

  • Friedman line, 'Congress is bought and paid for by Israel lobby,' is shot heard round the world
    • >> All we should require is that when someone is clearly (an eee word) proved wrong on a statement that is verifiable, they do not repeat it. OK Richard?

      Sounds easy, but "proved wrong" ignores the power of "nuances" and "personal spiritual discipline" to turn wrong into right or even righteous.

      Any person who can approve of, justify and staunchly defend Zionist terrorism, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the creation of a religion-supremacist state won't be deterred by something as simple as being "proved wrong".

  • Obama to Palestine: Drop dead
    • >> Yes, the work ahead is not quick nor easy. But neither was winning independence. South Sudan defied the odds simply by being born...

      Meanwhile, f*ck Palestine. The hypocrisy is astounding.

  • Why did it take 6 years to talk about the Israel lobby?
    • >> Establish your social justice credentials on a color-blind manner, rather than in a selective manner.

      RW on ethnic cleansing:
      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.

      RW on Zionist terrorism and the creation of a religion-supremacist state:
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.

      RW on excising non-Jewish Israelis from their own country (a.k.a. "bureaucratic ethnic cleansing):
      >> … I personally don’t see a conflict with intentionally adjusting boundaries if the demographics change considerably to create a smaller Israel that is Jewish majority.

  • JNF board member resigns over eviction of Palestinian family in Silwan
    • >> It is very good that Mr. Morrison refuses to be party to the most blatant violations of human rights committed by the JNF in the name of Zionism, but he must be made aware of all of the human rights violations in which he is complicit by virtue of his support for Israel.

      That would require engaging in "academic speculation". Instead, Mr. Morrison could apply "personal spiritual discipline" to the issue and conclude the following:
      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.

  • 'One of the most disturbing days I have ever experienced': An eyewitness account of the Israeli attack on Mustafa Tamimi's funeral
    • >> Allahu Akhab means ‘Allah is the Greatest’. Which is to say, Allah, Islam’s God, is greater then all other Gods or human beliefs.

      Imagine that: Adherents of a particular faith think their gawd is the greatest.

      I also hear that the sun rises in the East.

      Too funny...

  • David Remnick erases Norman Finkelstein
    • >> That is a catchy self-talking phrase that you use to dismiss logic that you don’t want to consider.

      RW dismisses logic which states that it is unjust and immoral to use the Holocaust as justification for Zionist terrorism and murder, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and land, and the creation of an oppressive, expansionist, religion-supremacist state. For him, Jewish suffering at the hands of the Nazis justifies the past crimes of Jews and of Jewish Israelis.

      >> Find the pursuit of justice already, not cruelty.

      And yet, cruelly, RW routinely dismisses or trivializes the pursuit of justice - that is to say, accountability for crimes committed - when it comes to Zionist terrorism and murder, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and land, and the creation of a religion-supremacist (i.e., non-egalitarian) state engaged in an ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder (which it has the power to halt immediately and completely, but which it refuses to do).

      He remains a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist.

    • >> You articulate sadly the theme that Jews living where they live is “Zio-supremacism” ...

      RW knows full well that Zio-supremacism has nothing to do with his benign-sounding and misleading phrase "Jews living where they live". His smear is nothing more than a bold-faced lie.

      >> I regard your accusations frankly as hindering the movement that you pretend to support.

      I regard RW's sad articulation as meaningless, given that he is a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist who accepts and justifies Zionist terrorism and murder, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and lands, and the creation of an oppressive, expansionist and religion-supremacist state.

    • >> I pray, in an act of compassion, that you never have to grapple with the question of why some political entity might seek to murder every one of your family, community, people.

      My goodness, how very patronizing!

      RW really should spare his "prayers" and "compassion" for Palestinians who have been grappling with a similar question for over 60 years.

      Instead, he accepts and justifies:
      - Zionist terrorism and murder;
      - the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and land; and
      - the creation of an oppressive, expansionist, religion-supremacist state.

      And he has no problem with the idea of excising non-Jewish Israelis from their own country - stripping them of their citizenship and rendering them stateless - in order to preserve a Jewish majority in Israel.

      He remains a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist.

    • >> People were confused, still are confused, about what the holocaust [sic] was in Jewish tradition.

      Embracing and thriving on eternal victimhood makes for pretty dismal tradition.

      That being said, while the Holocaust was unquestionably a brutal chapter in human history, it took / takes a healthy dose of wilful immorality and injustice to twist and distort suffering into self-righteous justification for terrorism, ethnic cleansing, destruction, oppression, theft, colonization and the creation of a religion-supremacist state.

      >> Or, a religious stimuli [sic] to the return, God’s voice unexpectedly from unexpected sources?

      That's certainly convenient.

    • >> Just acknowledge that the concept of eventual return (Zionism), is a fundamental component of historical Judaism ...

      Yeah! And while you're at it, hold your nose and acknowledge that Zionist terrorism, the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and the establishment of an ever-expanding, religion-supremacist and colonialist state - rather than a day before a colour-blind court - was the right way for Jews to realize a Biblical "concept of eventual return" (to a place to which ties consisted primarily of "academic speculation")!

    • >> RW: ‘You are not indigenous. Leave.’ is not a progressive value.

      Excising non-Jewish Israeli minorities from their own nation and stripping them of their citizenship and nationality in order to maintain a Jewish majority in a religion-supremacist state isn't particularly progressive, either:
      >> RW: I personally don’t see a conflict with intentionally adjusting boundaries if the demographics change considerably to create a smaller Israel that is Jewish majority.

    • >> Zionism is the self-determination movement of the Jewish people, the portion that reside in Israel.

      I love this. It has been explained to RW numerous times that self-determination is a process that the majority of people within a geographic region undertake to assert some form of autonomy or independence from those around them, and to create a political entity that respects the rights of all individuals within the new entity.

      Zionism - whose purpose was/is to relocate Jews from around the world into Palestine, to displace the indigenous population and to steal land and resources in order to create an oppressive, colonialist and religion-supremacist state - is not self-determination.

      So RW, using Zio-supremacist "common sense", argues instead that "self-determination" is the right of the thief to keep all he has stolen.

      He also argues that the concept of "return" to a place where people have never been is inherent in Judaism. He fails to brush this aside like so much "academic speculation", however. More importantly, however - and entirely unlike his view regarding ethnically-cleansed Palestinians - he never suggests that Jews should have bided their time, and should continue to bide their time, for the opportunity to make their case before a "colour-blind" court. Nope. Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians was the right way to go about it, and he fully supports those crimes.

      RW's true, Zio-supremacist colours continue to shine ever brighter.

    • >> “petrified old farts” – Don’t get ageist as well as politically bigoted. Phil is the same age as I (a year younger) ...

      RW proves the point by failing to grasp that age does not always equal mindset.

    • >> Zionism is inherent in Judaism, and is multi-millenial, preceeding Islam, preceeding Christianity.
      >> Even the formation of detailed and inspiring ethical credo, occurred in the context of “how do we live spiritual real lives, in real community”, NOT simply a universalistic abstraction.

      So...the detailed and ethical credo that developed in the context of "how do we live spiritual real lives, in real community" comprised terrorism, ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the creation of a religion-supremacist state. Detailed, perhaps. Ethical, not so much.

      >> Peace is not constructed by the attempt to erase the identity of another people.

      It never ceases to amuse me that a guy who accepts, approves of and justifies Zionist immorality and injustices...
      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.

      ...has the gall to lecture others about how to construct peace. Too rich.

    • >> James North @ December 13, 2011 at 9:49 pm

      Yup, that's just too damned funny (and pathetic).

  • What are they smoking? Wiesenthal Center lumps Abbas appearance at U.N. with 'neo-Nazis and crackpots'
    • >> From what I remember, G-d in Old Testament gave 10 comandments.

      Which ones? (PDF - may take a moment to open)

      >> All of them are very important and should be respected.

      Really?
      - Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
      - The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
      - Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.

  • What would happen to Palestinians who attacked an Israeli military base in occupied territory?
    • >> I think that its a good thing that Netanyahu declared that lawlessness will not be tolerated.

      No surprise there, seeing as how Bibi omitted from his definition of lawlessness the presence of Israeli Occupation Forces and Israeli colonists outside of partition borders.

    • >> eljay: Only hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists will fail to take issue with the fact that Israeli Occupation Forces are defending Israeli colonists far outside of partition borders.
      >> eee: What would happen to Iraqis or Afghanis that attacked a US base compared to Americans that did it?

      The "common sense" jester proves my point.

    • >> And notice: the IDF is in the occupied territories to protect "Israeli citizens" from Palestinian non-citizens.

      Only hateful and immoral Zio-supremacists will fail to take issue with the fact that Israeli Occupation Forces are defending Israeli colonists far outside of partition borders.

  • Little drone on the prairie: high-tech surveillance comes home
    • >> Northern border?? French Canadian trappers trying to smuggle fur pelts?

      Haven't you heard? Canada is THE terrorist gateway to America! Between that and our abundance of natural resources, there's no reason for the US not to invade occupy liberate us. :-)

    • But, really, what are the chances that gawd-fearin' Amurrikans will ever be mistaken for an Afghan wedding party?

  • Can I dare?
    • Father, daughter hurt in Israeli Gaza raid: "A state cannot allow its territory to be constantly under fire from an enemy," [Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Yaalon] said. Israel "will take the necessary measures to impose a high price" if the rocket fire from Gaza continued.

      Why, that sounds like a maximalist threat to "wipe the streets of Gaza with Palestinian blood"! Where is the "better wheel", the attempt to "humanize 'the Other'"?!

  • Let's say you got to ask Israel's president 8 questions-- what would they be?
    • >> What happens when someone or some group that she handed softball questions to, does something corrupt and violent? Is she then complicit?

      Perhaps she uses "personal spiritual discipline" to rationalize the corruption and violence, the way RW does.

  • The never-ending double standard
    • >> The best recommendation Jonah, is to urge dissenters to remain skeptical.

      Just remember that RW doesn't approve of dissenters or dissent.

      >> ... partisan approaches tend to distort the credibility of even valid criticism.

      This phrase perfectly describes RW.

    • >> You don’t look at this stuff precisely Donald. You like to accuse others of crimes, but don’t wish to address the definition of the specific crimes, relative to the actual context in which they occurred.

      In case you're looking for pointers, Donald, here's how RW does it:
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      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.
      --------------------

      >> Maybe if you were content to state that deaths could have been avoided, rather than a crime, then there would be some basis of actually affecting Israeli behavior.

      Don't accuse the rapist of raping. Say, instead, that violent sexual intercourse could have been avoided, rather than a crime. Then there would be some basis of actually affecting the rapist's behaviour.

    • >> There is one unassailable truth regarding Gaza. If there would be no rockets or attacks coming from Gaza to Israel, there would be no attacks from Israel to Gaza.

      And Israel would immediately lift its illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza. Undoubtedly.

    • >> Do you even see how twisted your logic is Mr. Witty?

      RW is an immoral Zio-supremacist who approves of and justifies past Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. He will most likely sidestep your entire post by conveniently referring to it as "academic speculation".

  • Nabi Saleh not allowed to bury their beloved son in peace
    • >> ... indeed, the Arabs have every right to defend themselves as they see fit. What they dont have, is a right to distort reality and whine when they are hurt when attacking soldiers.

      Hmmm...so, Palestinians have "every right to defend themselves as they see fit" against Israeli Occupation Forces, but if they use rocks to do so, they are suddenly "attacking" those Israeli Occupation Forces.

      (Straight out of RW's playbook: The rapist's victim is also an "aggressor" because she dares to slap and punche the rapist - rather than shower him with roses - as he continues to rape her.)

      So, the onus is not on the Israeli Occupation Forces to stop occupying, it is for the Palestinians to "play nice" with their brutal occupation overlords.

      Zio-supremacists sure are hateful and immoral.

  • Liberal pundits and Democrats are stifling conversation on failed peace process, AIPAC's power, and push for war on Iran
    • >> Having a conflict is a goldmine for the Pal[estinian]s.

      It's not nearly as rich a goldmine as it is for Israel.

  • 'Huffpo' gives Ginsberg platform to push for illegal covert war against Iran
    • >> Regardless of what you hate to break to me, I am.

      I stand behind (but not uncomfortably close to) RoHa on this one: He da maing!

  • Keep Mondoweiss going strong -- make a donation today
  • IDF kills Palestinian protester and tweets '#Fail'
    • Where is RW to decry the IDF's maximalism? Where is he to tell us about how the IDF could taken this opportunity to "humanize 'the Other'" and to "make 'better wheels'"? Where is he to explain why the IDF is assaulting Palestinians in the West Bank (i.e., not within the '48 or '67 borders of the "Jewish state") in the first place?

      Ah, yes, he's probably busy "holding his nose"...

  • Gingrich says Palestinians are an 'invented people'
    • >> Many people on this blog do not show the same respect to what Jews say ...

      What Jews say is one thing. What Zio-supremacists say is another. The two are not necessarily the same thing.

      >> There are two nations, the Jewish one and the Palestinian one ...

      The thief and his victim.

      >> ... and they have to reach an historical compromise and live in peace.

      eee's definition of "an historical compromise": "Give us what we want, or we will take it from you."

    • >> ... remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire. And I think that we've had an invented Palestinian people ...

      I wonder if ol' Newt is even dimly aware of how well this describes Israel and Israelis.

  • Two Palestinians dead in Gaza, a story of mourning and peace
    • >> “Remember, there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire. We have invented the Palestinian people ...

      He could be describing Israel and Israelis.

  • Israeli soldier shoots protester in face at close range with teargas canister
    • >> I wasn’t saying that the retaliation was deserved, I was saying that is what to be expected. The IDF’s response by and large is completely disproportionate. As I said on the first line of that post.

      FWIW, I accept that your statement was not intended to be inflammatory, provocative or deceitful.

      Yes, retaliation was to be expected and, yes, it was completely disproportinate. And, sadly, it is likely that no-one will be held accountable for it.

    • >> Rocket fired from Lebanon that was supposed to target Israel falls short and injures Lebanese woman in Lebanon.
      >> Where is the outrage on here about this terrorist action?

      Although this incident in no way justifies Israel's 60+ years, ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder - including the murder discussed in this thread - I am outraged that a rocket fired from within Lebanon injured a Lebanese woman.

    • >> Yes, eljay, you said it, but you need more intellectual courage to see beyond the veil of your ideological blindness.

      1. War is peace, ethnic cleansing is a "necessary" evil, occupation is defence and a religion-supremacist state is "a good in the world". Yeah, "ideological blindness".
      2. "intellectual courage" - This must be what Zio-supremacists use to make themselves comfortable with the immorality and injustice that their ideology engenders.

      >> The occupation is necessary as long as the is a state of potential or actual war against Israel. The settlements are the consequence, not the cause of violence. ... Renounce the violence ... and occupation will end.

      This is just plain funny. No one - not even jonah - can sincerely believe that if the Palestinians halt all resistance to Israel's illegal, immoral and ever-expanding occupation of Palestine far beyond partition borders, Israel will simply melt back to within its partition borders and abandon everything it has stolen and occupied outside of them.

    • >> This doesn’t mean that the life conditions under occupation are not difficult. They are – but mainly self-inflicted ...

      So, the problem is not Israel's illegal, immoral and ever-expanding occupation of Palestine far beyond partition borders, it's that the Palestinians are inflicting difficult "life conditions" upon themselves under Israel's illegal, immoral and ever-expanding occupation. Interesting.

    • >> Western moral dishonesty helps to keep the Palestinians in their misery ...

      ...but that moral dishonesty pales in comparison to Zio-supremacist moral deficiency:
      - which created the misery in the first place;
      - which justifies and glorifies Zionist terrorism, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the creation of a religion-supremacist state and Israel's 60+ years, ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder;
      - which emboldens Israel to refuse to enter into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace;
      - which enables Zio-supremacist aggressors falsely to claim victimhood even as they continue to crush their Palestinian victims.

    • >> But what the hell is the point of throwing stones at soldiers? Do you think they aren’t going to react? Should they just stand there and allow themselves to be stoned?

      1. The picture at the top of this page shows a civilian being shot from inside an armoured vehicle by a well-protected individual (presumably a soldier).
      2. Nabi Saleh is in the West Bank, not in Israel.

      Aggressor-victimhood is a tough gig.

  • GOP presidential candidates offer red meat on Israel (UPDATED)
    • >> RoHa: Obama pretends Australia is important as well. But at least you left out Canada.

      Dude, stop slagging Canada! We're NICE up here, and that's important! :-D

  • Accusing Obama of 'appeasement,' Romney says he'd travel to Israel on first trip as president
    • >> Yet in three years, he has not found it in his interest to visit Israel, our ally, our friend, the sole Middle East nation that fully shares our values ...

      Aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, murder, terrorism, ethnic cleansing ("currently not necessary") and a religion-supremacist state are part of American values? It's no wonder no other Middle Eastern nation "fully shares" them!

  • Israel isn't good for the Jews anymore
  • State Department says Amb. Gutman was 'speaking on his own'
    • >> ... Zionism, that most audacious and successful revolution in recent history ...

      Audacious? Sure. Most? Dunno. Successful? If one's measure of success is the existence of a religion-supremacist state born of terrorism and ethnic cleansing, and maintained and expanded by a 60+ years, ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder, then I guess Zionism has been a "successful revolution". Hooray for injustice and immorality.

  • Israel's myth of invincibility drives a dangerous idea-- attacking Iran
    • >> A fundamentalist theocratic regime such as iran is inherently unstable. How do you think a nuclear armed fundamentalist regime will react once it is backed in to a corner.?

      It will react roughly the same way an inherently unstable, religion-supremacist "Jewish state" regime will react once it is backed into a corner. That alone is a reason to oppose a nuclear Israel.

  • Another Israeli hankering to be in the Diaspora
    • >> I haven’t said a word about the security situation, the constant existential threat we cope with here ...

      ...and the constant existential threat his nation presents to others.

      >> Even when my mother moved to Israel, as a young, idealist woman, my grandmother attempted to dissuade her: “It’s hard for Jews to live with other Jews, because everyone tries to gain at the expense of the rest,” she said some 30 years ago, and was right. This is exactly the feeling here. Everyone tries to gain at everyone else’s expense.

      I'm appalled by this man's - and his grandmother's - blatant anti-Semitism! ;-)

  • Israel trades $100 million in frozen PA funds for nuke-ready submarine
    • >> Germany owes Israel nothing. It paid its debt in full long ago.

      German never owed Israel anything to begin with.

  • Pappe on why Palestinian Israelis are 'second-rate citizens'
    • >> Phil’s father was alive when that occurred, and he “let it happen”.

      This gets more interesting every day. RW is now openly attacking Phil through his father, while engaging in precisely the type of "academic speculation" he routinely condemns.

      C'mon, Phil, admit to RW that Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians was a "necessary" evil, tell him that you would have "held your nose" right alongside him, and all will be forgiven. :-)

  • Welcome Annie Robbins as Writer at Large
    • >> I know you won’t get it Mooser, but validation of others’ views, even while differing, go a long way.

      I love it! RW is a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist who justifies Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians...and here, yet again, he asks Phil to set aside his (Phil's) sense of justice, morality and humanism and validate his (RW's) view!

      Person A: "I think all black people are sub-human trash."
      Person B: "That is a horribly racist statement!"
      Person A: "Oh, c'mon, you can validate my views even if yours differ from mine. Just say that you agree with me that all black people are sub-human trash, and then we can talk about something else."

    • >> Its an old divide here, whether the editors regard this site as a propaganda site, or a discussion site.
      >> The editorial selection has been overwhelmingly propagandistic, in spite of Phil’s claim to be on the fence on many issues.

      Interesting: RW is now openly speculating as to whether Mondoweiss might be a propaganda site! I'm sure his confusion could be cleared up immediately if only Phil were to embrace RW's conviction that Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians were noble and just deeds.

    • >> I find her comments to be often contemptuous, not trying to understand views that differ from her initial prejudices.

      Understanding views is one thing; accepting them is another. For example, RW understands that Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians were immoral and unjust acts. Rather than accept that view, however, he continues to justify and excuse immorality and injustice.

    • Congratulations on the promotion, annie...I mean, Annie. ;-) Keep up the good work! :-)

  • Beinart says Israel must give citizenship to Palestinians under occupation
    • >> Given what you know about the history preceding and the events of 1947 and 48 would you have supported the establishment of a Jewish state, even if it required some actions that you would not normally sanction or do?

      RW continues to try to convince people that Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians were anything other than immoral and unjust acts. Sadly amusing for someone who professes to be a humanist; unsurprisingly hypocritical for someone who routinely dismisses discussion of past events as "academic speculation".

    • >> To the extent that Palestinian do wish to become Israelis, there is little reason not to offer them citizenship as long as they agree to pledge allegiance to the state of Israel ...

      To the secular, democratic and egalitarian state of Israel, or to the "Jewish state" of Israel?

    • >> At the core of Israel’s legitimacy is the fact that it was founded as a democratic and Jewish state ...

      There is no legitimacy conferred upon Israel by its founding as a religion-supremacist "Jewish state".

      >> If Israel can become again a country that offers citizenship to everyone in its borders, irrespective of race, religion, sex annd ethnicity, it will not need PR firms.

      As long as Israel remains a religion-supremacist "Jewish state", with special rules for Jewish Israelis only, it will continue to need PR firms.

      Example: The non-Jewish demographic of Israel threatens the Jewish majority in the "Jewish state" of Israel. Israel adopts RW's proposal to redraw the borders of Israel in order to excise non-Jewish Israelis from their own country (in other words, to engage in bureaucratic ethnic cleansing) in order to maintain the Jewish majority. Such an injustice - which some Zio-supremacists might term a "necessary" evil and, after the fact, "currently not necessary" - will have to be spun as righteous and noble.

  • Will Palestinian woman's humiliation by border guard warrant condemnation by NYT or Tablet?
    • C'mon, RW, tell us all again about "humanizing 'the Other'", "making 'better wheels'" and "live #AND# let live"!

      Oh, wait a minute, this incident happened on November 6, so by now it's all just "academic speculation" because "the PRESENT is what matters".

  • Letters to The New York Times and letters to The Rhodesia Herald
    • >> The Israel haters, do not like Jews, period. Not when they do something wrong but when Jews do anything at all, even when its hardly controversial, it arouses their ire. It is not this or that aspect of Israeli society they loathe, its the existence of Israel that offends them.

      That's a wonderful (aggressor-)victimhood speech. I particularly like how it avoids the harsh reality that the Zionist enterprise of Israel is anything but "hardly controversial".

      Israel is a non-egalitarian, religion-supremacist state born of Zionist terrorism and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians - immoral and unjust acts lauded as noble and just by Zio-supremacists.

      Israel is maintained by, and continues to grow thanks to, its ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder - a campaign it has the power to halt immediately and completely, but which it chooses not to halt.

      I guess it's easier to play victim than it is to face up to the ugly reality that is Zionism.

  • Kristol accuses Obama of wanting the Jewish state to disappear
    • >> Very good article about Arab aparthied.
      >> http://frontpagemag.com/2011/10/11/libya-remains-judenrein/

      >> David Gerbi, a Libyan Jew who fled his country for Italy in 1967 to escape the recently deposed Muammar Gaddafi’s persecution ...

      He must not have gotten the memo that Israel is the only safe on the planet for all Jews everywhere.

      >> Gerbi’s desire to re-establish the more than 2,000-year-old Jewish presence in his native land ...

      Libya is his native land? Surely, then, he cannot be Jewish. This explains why he fled to Italy and not to Israel.

    • >> "The Obama message is loud and clear: the world would be a safer, simpler, and more peaceful place if not for the troublesome Jewish state."

      Well, duh! Is Kristol actually suggesting that the world is a safer, simpler and more peaceful place WITH a troublesome (and religion-supremacist) "Jewish state"?

  • A Warsaw Ghetto with guns (my recent trip to Israel/Palestine)
    • >> Anti-Zionists deny the holocaust (the honest significance of it in Jewish consciousness), and thereby deny the humanity, the experience of the survivors and family of survivors.

      This latest attempt to justify Zionist terrorism, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and the creation of a religion-supremacist "Jewish state" smack of desperation. I guess RW isn't above engaging a bit of "academic speculation" when it suits his purposes.

    • >> RW: The second observation is that I strongly urge you to develop a much more independent view of the region and time. They [sic] only way that I can see doing that is in personal spiritual discipline ... of not complying with conclusions, but incorporating concerns.

      Although his "stream of consciousness" prose is as baffling as ever, RW appears to be urging Phil - by means of "personal spiritual discipline" - to cast aside his sense of humanity, morality and justice and to embrace instead his (RW's) "humanist" mantra:
      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.

  • Marcus warns, US Jews could abandon Israel over treatment of women (ixnay about alestiniansPay)
    • >> This promise is what permits us, in our view, to do whatever we please to the people that dwells here, the natives of this land: to expel, to concentrate, to divide, to blockade, to impoverish, to dry out, to bomb, to uproot, to dispossess.
      >> This same divine promise grants all Jews everywhere - even those who have never set foot in Israel - more rights in this land than any Palestinian who was born here. This land is ruled by a state that refuses to be a state of its actual citizens and thinks only of potential citizens from the Diaspora.

      The glory of a religion-supremacist "Jewish state".

      >> This same divine promise ...

      The promise was made by men to themselves. There was - and is - nothing divine about it.

    • >> Israel is and should be a Jewish state.

      Yes, it is a religion-supremacist "Jewish state". And, no, it should not be one.

      >> Religious entanglements that would be unthinkable and unconstitutional in the United States ...

      ...for some strange reason do not appear to bother American politicians.

  • Roger Cohen says our foreign policy has been 'Likudized'
    • >> In fact, he’s said pretty much the same thing about India, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Poland, Italy, and even Canada!

      Hey, whaddaya mean, "even Canada"? We're the bestest of friends, next-door-neighbours even, and we know how to share OUR resources!

      Good thing we do, too, 'cause if we didn't, America might be tempted to liberate them...I mean, us. :-)

  • Why is Charlie Rose hugging Seth Klarman?
    • >> ... any organization that does not respect Israeli voices and interests, will not be able to say it is Jewish.

      But any organization that does respect Israeli voices and interests will be able to say it is Jewish.

      Cool.

      Time for all those organizations that do respect the voices and interests of non-Jewish Israelis to go collect their "We're Jewish!" certificates.

  • A documentary guide to 'Brand Israel' and the art of pinkwashing
    • >> So Israel, a democratic country in a world where many countries have much worse human rights records ...

      "Israel: We may not be as good as the best but, hey, at least we're not as bad as the worst!" (TM)

      As for "democratic country", most people don't associate democracy with a state:
      - that is overtly religion-supremacist; and
      - remains engaged in a 60+ years, ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder, which is has the power to halt immediately and completely, but which it chooses not to.

    • "Israel: We may not be as good as the best but, hey, at least we're not as bad as the worst!" (TM)

  • What's my line? I'm Bruce Springsteen of the Middle East, the land of milk and honey
  • Now they care
    • Because she complied with orders issue by Israeli border guards, Ms. Addario was underwent THREE x-ray scans AND an unnecessary strip-search. Makes one wonder what would have happened to her if he had failed to comply.

    • >> I think Israel really is being brutalized by the occupation.

      The rapist is brutalized by the countless rapes he continues to commit. He's not necessarily a bad guy, but the gawd-driven need to self-(self-)determine himself in women, combined with the victims' aggression, anguish and vitriol, get to him after a while. He knows he could stop raping - and probably should stop raping - but, well, somebody's gotta do it.

  • Guardians of the City: An interview with Neturei Karta's Rabbi Meir Hirsh
    • >> Let’s call it “an atheism in action, then.

      Atheism does not call for any action, so a more accurate phrase might be "the darker side of human nature in action".

    • >> Go and study Russian and French revolutions. Millions of people died thanks to bare atheism being enforced on them.

      Atheism is the absence of a belief in a god(s). That lack of belief contains no actionable, religion-like dogma of superiority, exclusivity, entitlement, righteousness or domination.

      Forcing atheism on others is not at all the same thing as atheism.

  • The liberal Zionist inability to confront the right of return
    • >> eee: Being Jewish is like being French or Hungarian, not like being Catholic.

      Here we go again. One can immigrate to France or Hungary and, bureaucratically, become French or Hungarian. One cannot immigrate to "Jewish state" and, bureaucratically, become Jewish. Until that happens, being Jewish is not at all like being French or Hungarian.

      >> eee: Shmuel is an atheist Jew.

      Congratulations, Shmuel. It wasn't too long ago that eee stripped you of your Jewishness. Nice of him to give it back. ;-)

  • Netanyahu takes another step to demolish the brand
    • >> RW: Every Israeli leader to the left of Lieberman is hoping that the civilists among the Arab Spring end up defining the future of the country.
      >> RW: You do know what “civilist” means.

      From Wikipedia:
      civilist (plural civilists)
      - (obsolete) One who studies or works with the civil law.
      - (obsolete, theology) One who rejects the moral authority of Christ but who nevertheless adheres to a moral code in line with “civil righteousness” and “good citizenship”.
      - (obsolete) A statesman, politician, or student of the political sciences.

      The definition does not appear to include the phrase "...who also accepts Israel as a 'Jewish state' and is willing to turn a blind eye to its ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder."

  • Pamela Geller's Islamophobia hits new low with Thanksgiving Day smear of dietary laws
    • 1. No one is forcing anyone to consume meat.
      2. If someone were to suggest that kosher-certified tinfoil, laundry detergents and bottled water (among other items) constituted a "little-known strike against freedom", would she agree, or would she simply cry "anti-Semitism!"

  • Bernard-Henri Levy insists settlements are not 'colonies' but minute 'implantations'
    • >> If I may toodle my own toy trumpet, I published a malicious 900-word parody of B-HL a year or so ago— link to theamericanconservative.com

      Nicely done! :-)

    • >> BHL: There is not one responsible, there are two. Sure Nethanhayu has his part when he multiplies the settlements, but the Palestinians bear a responsibility has heavy or more than the Israelis with their demand to freeze the colonization before returning to the negotiating table. The Palestinians say they will only negotiate if Israelis stop the "implantation," and the Israeli side says the "implantations" are part of the negotiation.

      This reminds me of the RW 'both sides are aggressors' School of "Humanist" Reasoning: The rapist is wrong to be repeatedly raping the victim, but the victim is also wrong for demanding that the rapist stop repeatedly raping her before she negotiates a peace with him. The repeated rapes are part of the negotiation!

  • Santorum says West Bank is Israel's Texas, and all who live there are 'Israelis'
    • Countries must be able to defend themselves. Unfortunately, too many warmongers think defence includes invasion, occupation, colonization, "pre-emptive self-defence", propping up foreign states or dictatorships, et cetera.

    • The Questioner should have told Santorum that discussion of Texas is "academic speculation" and that "the PRESENT is what matters".

      >> ... if everyone is “Israeli,” which puts them in the category of “people” according to Santorum, they should have all the rights of other real people, like Israeli’s and Americans.

      In a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israel, all Israelis should have the same rights. In a religion-supremacist "Jewish state" of Israel, non-Jews will remain second-class "Arabs".

  • Revival of Geneva Initiative features divisive figure: Bernard-Henri Levy
    • >> Can Israel “make” Palestinians accept things they do not want? No it can’t.

      Wow, he's hateful, immoral AND shockingly oblivious (or dense).

    • >> Well then, negotiations are not the only way forward.

      I don't know exactly how it will come about but, according to eee, the "Jewish state" must be dismantled and incorporated into a secular and egalitarian nation:
      >> eee: " ... the lives of several hundreds of thousands of humans (be they Jewish or not) are more important than the demands of any group to remain a majority in a certain area ... ".

      Hmmm...or is it possible that he was just being a Zio-supremacist hypocrite when he wrote that? ;-)

    • >> Why is this creepy medallion-man in the picture again?

      He looks like a middle-aged Wolverine. :-)

      >> Does he think his hairy exposed chest is suavely peace inducing?

      What do YOU think? ;-)

    • >> ... in contrast to your contempt for a litmus test of an academic opinion of 6 years before my birth.

      When Jews commit immoral and unjust acts against non-Jews six years before his birth, RW has this to say about it:
      ---------------------------
      >> I cannot consistently say that “ethnic cleansing is never necessary”.
      >> If I was an adult in 1948, I probably would have supported whatever it took to create the state of Israel, and held my nose at actions that I could not possibly do myself.
      ---------------------------

      When non-Jews commit immoral and unjust acts against Jews OVER 30 YEARS before his birth, RW has this to say about it:
      ---------------------------
      >> They were murdered in 1920 because of the bigotry of those that associated all Jews with their fears.
      >> It was politically motivated, ideological, not all that different from much of the ideology cited here by some of the maximalists.
      >> Rationalized by some stimuli to bigotry. Never justified.
      >> Is intentional mass murder of teenage boys EVER justified? That anyone would attempt to, is sickening.
      ---------------------------

      When Jews kill non-Jews, it's just so much "academic speculation". When non-Jews kill Jews, "academic speculation" is discarded in favour of condemnation.

      What an astounding hypocrite.

  • 'J Street' distances itself from board member who met with Hamas officials
    • >> J Street spokesperson Jessica Rosenblum ... went on the record to say that "J Street believes that Hamas' ... denial of the Holocaust are reprehensible."

      I trust that RW will explain to Ms. Rosenblum that denial of the Holocaust is nothing more than "academic speculation", and that "the PRESENT is what matters".

    • >> ... they should accept Israel ...

      As the secular, democratic and egalitarian state of Israel, the nation-state of all Israelis, yes. As a religion-supremacist "Jewish state", no.

  • The problem with 'occupation' in the occupy movement
    • >> RW: There is NO progressive basis for suppressing the self-governance of current residents, anywhere.

      This is why RW supports a non-progressive basis like the "bureaucratic ethnic cleansing" of non-Jewish Israelis from their own country - stripping them of their citizenship and rendering them stateless - should they become a demographic "problem":
      >> RW: I personally don’t see a conflict with intentionally adjusting boundaries if the demographics change considerably to create a smaller Israel that is Jewish majority.

      Such a "humanist"...

    • >> So basically Americans have no leg to stand on when criticizing Israel and its foundation. Same goes for Australians. But picking on the little guy is so much easier than fixing your own wrongs, isn’t it?

      Ah, yes, why halt ON-GOING rapes when so many other rapists continue to evade justice for their crimes. Oh, wait, I know why: "the PRESENT is what matters!"

    • >> Universalism is consistent acceptance of all people, and in the present.

      Funny stuff, coming from a fraudulent "humanist" who:
      - advocates a religion-supremacist "Jewish state", a state which confers a special status to Jews above all other citizens; and
      - sees nothing wrong with excising non-Jewish Israelis from their homeland and stripping them of their citizenship, as required, in order to preserve a Jewish majority in Israel (" ... I personally don’t see a conflict with intentionally adjusting boundaries if the demographics change considerably to create a smaller Israel that is Jewish majority.").

  • In 1950, Doubleday censored frank account of Deir Yassin massacre from prominent American's book
    • >> According to Israeli investigation committee records, from 5:00 pm until 6:30 on October 29, 1956, border police shot and killed 49 villagers from Kafr Qasim as they tried to return home. Among those killed were 23 children and one pregnant woman.

      The killed and injured were left unattended through the night. After the curfew ended, villagers took the injured to hospitals and laid the dead to rest in a mass grave.

      Ssshhhh! Can you hear that? That's the sound of someone "holding his nose" and approving of immorality ("currently not necessary").

  • 'Segregated country': Israel envisions Orthodox-Jewish-only 'cities' in Palestinian area
    • >> Shmuel @ November 23, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      Thanks again for your reply. More stuff to ponder. :-)

    • >> ... I find it amusing when non-Jews presume to tell Jews what Judaism is or is not.

      It's not nearly as amusing as watching one atheist Jew tell a bunch of other Jews they're not Jewish (or not "Jewish enough").

    • Thanks for your reply, Shmuel. I can't say that I entirely understand what you're saying*, but you've given me something to consider. Much appreciated. :-)

      ---------------
      *Examples:
      - What does it mean for an atheist to identify with a god, commandments or dogma he no longer believes in? How does he do it?
      - If "being Jewish" is a cultural thing, as some people claim, then embracing religious elements should not be part of the equation. I cannot be Muslim without embracing Islam, but I can be Canadian or Croatian or Italian without embracing any religion.

      No need to reply to the above...but any thoughts you may wish to spare will be appreciated. :-)

    • >> BTW, I’m also an atheist Jew.

      I'm still genuinely puzzled by how "atheist Jew" works. By removing the religious element from the Jewish identity, it appears to open up "being Jewish" to pretty much anyone who embraces Jewish culture and community (no religious conversion required).

      And it appears to mean the demise of a religion-based "Jewish state" in favour of a culturally-based "Jewish state", one to which anyone could belong by, once again, simply embracing Jewish community and culture and, as far as "Jewish state" goes, national loyalty (e.g., Palestinian-Jew (Italian-American); Jewish Muslim (French Muslim)).

      Sincere questions:
      - Is this your take on it?
      - If 'no', could you please explain how you see it?

      Thanks! :-)

    • >> There have been more splits, especially since the withdrawal from Gaza ...

      Are you able to clarify for MW readers which groups represent "real" Jews, or is this something only e "the Atheist Jew" ee has the power to discern? ;-)

  • A boycott of their own? Settlers compiling list of businesses that employ 'Arabs'
    • >> Might does not necessarily make right, but when might is accompanied with a just cause like for example establishing a Jewish state, then it can make right.

      What a coincidence that "common sense" eee should use "establishing a Jewish state" as his example for a "just cause", even though there's nothing just about either the establishment of a religion-supremacist state or the terrorism and ethnic cleansing that was used to establish it (or, for that matter, the ON-GOING campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder used to maintain and expand it).

      >> If the Yishuv would have lost the 1947-48 war there would be no Israel.

      But there would still be Jews.

      eee remains blissfully hateful and immoral.

  • Settlers and supporters descend on Hebron to assert Jewish sovereignty
    • >> It really makes one a little depressed about the human race, since so many people are like him in this respect.

      Yup. But as bad as RW and guys like him are, guys like eee are even worse. They're the goons who'll have no qualms about doing the dirty work that guys like RW support but are too squeamish to undertake.

      In either case, their ability to rationalize and dismiss their own hypocrisy and immorality is astounding.

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