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eljay

I'm a happily-married, vegetarian and atheist Canadian with two wonderful cats. :-)

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  • New Israel Fund response to Ben Gurion harassment reinforces very system it claims to oppose
    • || Sibiriak: ... What are they doing that is positive? ||

      See your post of February 13, 2017, 9:48 am.

    • || Sibiriak: ... There’s nothing in THAT statement that indicates support for “Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist “Jewish State” in as much as possible of Palestine . ... ||

      As indicated the "vision of Israel’s Founders" is of a "Jewish State" (a religion-supremacist construct) in the "Land of Israel" (which extends far beyond Israel's / Partition borders).

      || ... If NIF really supported the idea of a supremacist Jewish State “ in as much as possible of Palestine”, they they would be rejecting the very notion of “occupied Palestinian terrirtory” and they would be advocating Israeli settlement and annexation of WB territory. ... ||

      Not necessarily. "As much as possible" is exactly that: As much as possible. If the most they can get for a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" is '67 borders (w/ or w/o land swaps), then that's "as much as possible".

      || ... The criticism of NIF is valid, but that doesn’t mean they are not doing anything positive. ||

      Who said they're not doing anything positive? I certainly didn't say that.

    • || Sibiriak: Where does the NIF express support for a Jewish religion-supremacist state with maximum territorial extension in Palestine? Can you provide a quote or link? Some concrete details to strengthen your argument. Thanks. ||

      I linked to it in the first comment in this thread:

      … The New Israel Fund was founded more than 30 years ago to actualize the vision of Israel’s Founders, that of a Jewish and democratic state ...

      As you know - and I know you know this:
      - Zionism is ... the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel.
      - The "Land of Israel" extends far beyond Israel's / Partition borders.

    • || Sibiriak: ... I can’t find that quote at the website –no reference to a “religion-supremacist” state. Can you provide the exact quote/link, thanks. ... ||

      I linked to it in the first comment in this thread:

      … The New Israel Fund was founded more than 30 years ago to actualize the vision of Israel’s Founders, that of a Jewish and democratic state …

      || ... ( You have argued in the past that “Jewish state” and “Jewish religion-supremacist State” are NOT necessarily equivalent expressions.) ||

      I don't recall making that argument. Please link to a post or two of mine that support your assertion.

      I do recall stating that Israel could be a secular and democratic - but culturally Jewish - state, but that's not the Zionist vision. When they talk about Israel as a "Jewish State", they invariably mean a religion-supremacist state primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israeli Jews.

    • || Mooser @ February 12, 2017, 7:44 pm ||

      The only thing I know for sure about Zionists is that they think they're entitled to do evil. Beyond that, the Zionist mind is a mystery.

    • || jon s: The NIF does admirable work, for which it deserves nothing but praise from all those for whom promoting peace democracy and social justice is important. ... ||

      The NIF also supports Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine, for which it deserves nothing but condemnation from all those for whom justice, accountability and equality are important.

      Tell you what: I'll praise the NIF's admirable work and you condemn its selective support for Jewish supremacism. Deal?

    • || asherpat: @eljay,

      if the duplicitous organisation calling itself “the Fund for New Israel” is “Zionist”, then Quizzing was a raving patriot. ... ||

      According to its own website, NIF believes in and seeks to "actualize the vision of" a religion-supremacist "Jewish State". I don't know who Quizzing is, but evidently she was a raving patriot.

      || ... The NIF is a “fifth column” organization, the operation of which can only happen in a liberal, free country such as Israel. Any “mirror” organisation a few km east from where she was detained would have been, at the best, kicked-out within a day. Only in a madly liberal country such as Israel, licensed-traitors such as Breaking the Silence, B’Tselem and their enablers/financiers such as the FfNI (Fund for New Israel – “It’s Israel Jim, but not as we know it”) can operate without their people being murdered within a day. ... ||

      That's a lot of words just to express the Zionist mantra "Murderers exist, so it's OK to rape."

      Okay, now you can get back to being outraged at Israel for detaining a Zionist Jew.

    • || asherpat: A person questioned for 90 minutes!? Gewald! Nazis! Inhuman! Nakba! ||

      It wasn't an ordinary person - a regular human being - who was questioned for 90 minutes. It was a Jewish person - a Zionist. You may now proceed with shouting Nazis! Anti-Semitism! "Jew hatred!" Holocaust!

    • ... I want to be clear: NIF stands for something deeply meaningful. We believe in a vision of a better Israel — one that is marked by equality and democracy. ...

      FAQs:

      ... The New Israel Fund was founded more than 30 years ago to actualize the vision of Israel’s Founders, that of a Jewish and democratic state ...

      A "better Israel" apparently means a kinder, gentler religion-supremacist "Jewish State".

  • Israel's efforts to erase Palestinian history reflect 'incremental genocide,' Ehrenreich says
    • || Jackdaw: ... Except that Jews had always lived in Eretz Yisroel. ... ||

      Correct: The indigenous population of geographic Palestine was comprised of both non-Jews and Jews.

      || ... Jews are the indigenous tribe ... ||

      Jews - people who choose to be/come and to hold the religion-based identity of Jewish - are citizens of countries all over the world including Israel.

      || ... and they’re not making any plans to leave any time soon. ... ||

      And yet some do leave. Go figure.

      || ... The Zionists didn’t leave their ‘homeland’ ... ||

      The ones who moved to geographic Palestine to become Israeli did leave their homelands. The ones who stayed in their respective homelands did not leave their homelands.

    • || Boris: When everything is genocide nothing is genocide. ||

      When everything is anti-Semitism and "Jew hatred", nothing is anti-Semitism and "Jew hatred".

  • To oppose Trump, Jews must join the fight against fascism and Zionism
    • || Mayhem: ... In the years leading up to the rebirth of Israel in 1948, those who spoke of “Palestinians” were nearly always referring to the region’s Jewish residents. ... ||

      And those who spoke of Palestinians were never referring to Europe's or Russia's or America's Jewish residents.

      Seeing as how the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine were known as Palestinians, what were the non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine known as?

    • || Mayhem: @JohnO, you seem to be happy to turn the facts upside down to suit your political fancies. The Jews have the major claim to being the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine ... ||

      You seem to be happy to turn the facts upside down, beat them and then summarily execute them to suit your supremacist fancies. "The Jews" had and have no claim to Palestine. The people who do have a claim to Palestine (now Israel and not-Israel) are its indigenous non-Jewish and Jewish population.

    • || Mayhem: If you reckon that “a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.” is unjust and immoral then you yourself are unjust and immoral denying Jews who want to express their national identity the right as other people worldwide possess to do so. ||

      Jewish is fundamentally a religion-based identity. A "Jewish State" is a religion-supremacist construct. No group of people is entitled to a supremacist state of any kind, and no state has a right to exist as a supremacist state of any kind.

      When the best you can do in defence of your belief that people who choose to be/come Jewish are entitled to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" is argue - as you Zionists always do - the equivalent of "murderers exist, so it's OK to rape", you simply drive home the fact that you, your ideology and your religion-supremacist construct are unjust and immoral.

    • Some forms of anti-Semitism may be worse than others, but all forms of Zionism are unjust and immoral.

      In his article, Mr. Bronitsky writes:

      ... we should ceaselessly go after Jew hatred, and all other forms of intolerance ...

      I agree on all counts. Unsurprisingly, Zionists do not.

    • ... For years Dershowitz carelessly used the pejorative “anti-Semite” to describe any critics/opponents to Zionism and the state of Israel ... When referring to Steve Bannon, however, he claimed that “you should not toss that phrase around casually” and that it is “not legitimate to call somebody an anti-Semite because you might disagree with their policies”. ...

      Dersh is a Zionist douche.

  • Rand Paul warns neocons will 'scurry in' with Abrams, and Kristol says that's anti-Semitic
    • ... I bet that Rand Paul did not mention neoconservatism on CNN today ... because he’d been put on the defensive. By ... neoconservative Bill Kristol, who accused Rand Paul of anti-Semitism for daring to use the verb “scurry in.” ...

      It would seem that Mr. Kristol anti-Semitically counted Jews and concluded that all neocons are, in fact, Jews. And then he made public his anti-Semitic findings.

      Or perhaps Mr. Kristol anti-Semitically counted Jews, realized that not all neocons are Jews but decided to libel Mr. Paul just the same by anti-Semitically conflating all neocons with Jews.

  • SJP demands that NYU president speak out against email threatening Muslims, Arabs and anti-Zionists
    • NYU SJP Receives Threatening Email, Demands University Action

      ... University spokesperson John Beckman replied to our inquiries saying that the university takes “the safety and well-being of our students seriously,” that the “Department of Public safety is reaching out to SJP,” and they will review if law enforcement should get involved.

      “The email sent to the SJP, like its predecessor, is vile,” Beckman continued in his email. “Threats of violence or insults based on religion or country of origin or immigration status are contemptible, and neither SJP nor any other student group should be subjected to such abuse. The University condemns the email in the strongest terms.”

  • Rights group: Israeli online incitement towards Arabs doubled in 2016
    • || Mayhem: ... @Mooser, it is now apparent you have reached a state of innumerate dementia. ||

      You should've stuck with your figure of 2 billion, Mooser. ;-)

  • Why Trump is even thinking about naming pro-Israel apparatchik who opposed him to high position
    • || echinococcus: Tell you the truth, RoHa, I was even more puzzled by the “except in Israel”. ... ||

      Mr. Abrams speaks longingly of a future in which a utopian, thousand year "Jewish State" exists devoid of non-Jews.

      A Zionist's gotta dream, I guess.

  • Israeli soldier who 'mistakenly' killed Palestinian teen will not face manslaughter charges
    • || RoHa: ... any idea that Trump has inaugurated an era of fake news is simply tosh. ||

      I dread, the era of fake comma's and apostrophes.

  • Land Grab: Israeli Knesset passes law legalizing expropriation of privately-owned Palestinian land
    • || oldgeezer: @eljay

      Catalan is a zionist ... ||

      Yeah, I know. The inability of "gosh, no, I'm not a Zionist" Zionists to condemn Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine blows their cover every time.

    • || Jackdaw: ... I never said it was an excuse ... ||

      But you did throw it out there to distract from Israel's on-going theft, occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

      || ... but the forbidden real estate sales law (w/death penalty), raises the question, what would Judea and Samaria look like if the free market was allowed to flourish. ||

      The question it raises is what would geographic Palestine look like if Zionists hadn't established an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in Palestine and then spent subsequent decades committing (war) crimes with impunity and deliberately undermining international laws and human rights.

    • || amigo: ... Funny , I could find no evidence of that report being published by Maan news. ... ||

      MA’AN NEWS AGENCY: Court rules selling land to Israel is capital offense

      A Palestinian court in Jerusalem ruled Thursday that selling land to Israel was a capital offense.

      Judge Ta'et At-Twil ruled that the act of selling - or attempting to sell - land to a foreign country was a criminal offense which could result in the death penalty. ...

      Jackdaw has yet to explain how this in any way justifies Israel's on-going theft, occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

    • || Kaisa of Finland: RoHa: Sorry: Twice! ||

      Another two or three apologies and you'll qualify for an official - and highly coveted - "I'm a Canadian, eh?!" certificate. :-)

    • || Jackdaw: ... the sentence for selling land to an Israeli (Jew and Arab?), is death. ... ||

      That's the same sentence Israel gives for being a wounded and incapacitated non-Jew in Distended Israel.

      It still doesn't justify Israel's on-going theft, occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

    • || catalan: ... I did not choose to be Jewish – I was born that way. ... ||

      No-one is born with a religion-based identity. It is bestowed upon you and, later in life, you can choose to retain it or to reject it.

      || ... I can choose to become Christian now but I cannot change who I was when I was born ... ||

      Sure you can. I was born in Canada to Croatian and Italian parents. I was baptised as a Roman Catholic. I have chosen not to be Croatian, Italian or Roman Catholic. You can choose not to be Jewish.

      || ... Regardless, I do not believe that anyone is “entitled” to a state. All modern states are the result of violence. The state of Israel is not an exception, of course. I actually do not believe anyone is “entitled” to anything ... [snip] ... ||

      That's a lot of words to completely dodge the issue of religion-supremacist "Jewish State". Thanks for clarifying your pro-Zionism position.

    • || catalan: ... I am not a Zionist ... ||

      Interesting: You're one of those strange non-Zionists who believes that people who choose to be/come Jewish are entitled to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State".

    • || Kaisa of Finland: ... I have no idea what is going on in Israel today ... but at that time I surely thought that the zionists were the jews’ worst enemy ... ||

      Zionists used terrorism and ethnic cleansing to establish Israel as a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in Palestine. They've been engaged in a campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder for almost 70 years. Their actions - including deliberately and unapologetically committed (war) crimes - undermine international laws and human rights and the security they are meant to afford all people.

      And they do everything in their power to conflate the "Jewish State" of Israel with all Jews and all Jews with the "Jewish State" of Israel. To Zionists, Jews seem to be nothing more than cannon-fodder.

      I really don't understand why Zionists hate Jews so much.

    • || Jackdaw: @eljay And what do you call it when the Palestine Authority forbids Arab citizens from selling their privately owned land to Jews? That’s called…what? ... ||

      Assuming the PA is the government of those "Arab citizens", I would call it a discriminatory policy. The policy does not justify Israel's on-going theft, occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

      || ... And while we’re on the subject, what is the penalty an Arab will suffer if he violates PA law and sells his land to a Jew? ||

      I don't know what it is, but it doesn't justify Israel's on-going theft, occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

    • || Jackdaw: @eljay Is ’eminent domain’ rape? Yes or no? ||

      eminent domain: the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation.

      In my most humble opinion, eminent domain that...
      - is exercised judiciously by a government for the greater benefit of its citizens; and
      - provides fair compensation (or better) for the properties that have been expropriated,
      ...is not rape.

      The actions of the state of Israel - expropriating non-Israeli territory from non-Israelis in order to establish Jewish colonies in not-Israel - is rape, no matter how much money is thrown at the victims.

      Thanks for asking.

    • || mcohen.: ... israelis are refugees ||

      Its true that Israeli refugees exist. Zionists refuse to let them return to their homes and lands.

    • catalan: ... The morality of war is different – you seek to hurt your enemy.

      oldgeezer: @catalanwhocantgraspthe concept of reply

      Waging war on civilians and refugees is a war crime and crime against humanity. Israel is only at war with morality and truth.

      I agree, oldgeezer. But catalan seems to be of the opinion that non-Jews are entitled to oppress Jews and then double down on their oppression should the Jewish victims go to "war" (i.e., fight for their rights and freedoms) against their non-Jewish oppressors.

      I don't understand why catalan - like all Zionists - hates Jews so much.

    • || catalan: ... The way [Bibi] sees it, Palestinians have a lot of support abroad, so he has to counterbalance that by applying constant pressure. The settlements is the one thing that seems to hurt the Palestinians, so that’s what he is going to do. The more pressure from the outside, the more settlements get built. ... ||

      Bibi is a truly hateful and immoral human being. He is King Zionist.

    • || Jackdaw: The ‘theft’ requires the landowners be compensated. ... ||

      Rape doesn't become a business transaction just because the rapist gave his victims some money.

      Non-Israeli territory is not Israel's to steal, occupy and colonize.

    • || Kaisa of Finland: After filling the West Bank with settlements, what is mister Netanyahu planning to do with the remaining palestinians?? ... ||

      He can really only do one or more of three things:
      - subjugate them;
      - (ethnically) cleanse them; and/or
      - kill them.

      No matter what he and his "Jewish State" choose to do, you can be there will be a lot of "shooting and crying" going on. Aggressor-victimhood is a very tough gig... :-(

    • ... The Israeli Knesset on Monday passed a controversial new law that allows the Israeli government to expropriate private Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem ...

      Zionist scorecard:
      - Thou shalt not covet. Fail.
      - Thou shalt not steal. Fail.
      - Thou shalt not kill. Fail.
      - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Fail.

      The "Jewish State" races toward the bottom. Saudi Arabia, Mali and African "hell-holes" await with open arms.

  • The centrist US political system will defeat Trump
  • Israeli supermarket chain glorifies army killer on grocery bag
    • || xanadou: ... I don’t even want to know how a hebrew dictionary defines “moral”. ||

      I don't know how a Hebrew dictionary defines "moral", but Zionists seem to think that it is "moral" for Jews to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

    • ... ELOR PAYS FOR US ALL. ...

      Well, someone has to pay for all those Zionists who are too busy "holding their noses" to don Captain Israel outfits and summarily execute wounded and incapacitated people.

  • Israeli Knesset set to vote on 'unconstitutional' Palestinian land appropriation bill
    • Cause and effect: Israel proposes further injustice and immorality...

      mcohen.: Finally a plan to build decent housing for those that cannot afford a home due to the high price of property in Israel ...

      ...and a Zionist publicly plays with himself.

      ... Floppy ploppy flippy floppy

  • Obama fostered spread of nuclear weapons because of his naivete, says head of Council on Foreign Relations
  • 'Israel receives more US military aid than every other country in the world combined' -- New York Times reveals
    • || @ak: ... the only people not satisfied with the coverage of israeli loan guarantees are those completely and totally obsessed with israel, jews and how israel can be weakened so as to capitulate to arab aggression and arab desire to gain back sovereignty over all the land-from the river to the sea ... ||

      Conversely, the only people satisfied with the coverage of Israeli loan guarantees are those completely and totally obsessed with Israel, Jews and how international laws and human rights can be undermined so as to capitulate to Zionist aggression and Zionist desire to establish a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine and prevent the rightful return of refugees to their homes and lands.

  • Gaza military court imposes heavy prison sentences on eight Fatah members
    • ... A military court in Gaza imposed heavy prison sentences on eight Fatah members last week for “harming revolutionary unity” according to the revolutionary criminal law of the PLO written in Beirut in 1979. The eight men are all members of the Palestinian Authority’s security forces. Three were sentenced to life imprisonment with hard labor, and the other five were sentenced to between seven and 15 years in prison, also with hard labor. The sentences for the crimes, which were based on “contacts with Ramallah,” were handed down based on the men’s confessions, even though they all showed signs that the confessions were extracted through torture. ...

      I realize that Gaza is neither a "moral beacon" nor "light unto the nations", but that's no reason to pursue injustice and immorality. Shame on this Palestinian military court for trying to emulate the "Jewish State".

  • Israel has had a 'Muslim ban' from the start
    • || Al2Sultan: Israel was set up as the nation state of the jewish people. ... ||

      Jewish is fundamentally a religion-based identity. A "Jewish State" is a religion-supremacist construct. No state has a right to exist as a supremacist state of any kind.

      || ... There are 22 Muslim Arab nations I believe. Only one tiny jewish state. ... ||

      And there's the classic Zionist "Murderers exist so it's OK to rape" justification.

      || ... But the author seems to not care that Jews are banned from living and praying and owning property in most Arab countries. ... ||

      The injustices committed against Jews do not justify injustices committed by Jews. Jews are not entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      || ... The only propaganda is the one emanating from site like this that tries to hide behind human rights to deny Jews their own rights. ||

      The choice to be/come Jewish does not comprise a "right" to a religion-supremacist (and colonialist) state.

  • Jewless Holocaust. Israel first.
    • || eljay: ... Nazis weren’t meant to be role models and yet Zionists seem to have learned a thing or two from them about destructiveness and self-destructiveness. ||

      Hell, they've even got the whole "thousand year" (Reich / "Jewish State") hubris nailed down.

    • || yonah fredman: The loss of WWI drove German nationalists nuts. It seems that the nature of the surrender ... was the perfect brew for the “stabbed in the back” motif. It drove them nuts. ... ||

      Zionists haven't even reached the point of surrender and they're already nuts: Dare rightly to criticize their on-going (war) crimes and they'll scream anti-Semitism and "Jew hatred" at you even as they continue to commit those (war) crimes. Insane.

      || ... The nazis frankly were nuts. Sick, destructive, self destructive. ... ||

      Nazis weren't meant to be role models and yet Zionists seem to have learned a thing or two from them about destructiveness and self-destructiveness.

    • || catalan: ... Mass murder was always part of the arsenal and was done by assyrians, romans, and athenians. ... ||

      And Jews. Give credit where credit is due.

    • || marc b.: ... The real problem for Ellis is that ‘Jews are not front and center’, an admission that there was no excision of Jews from history, but symbolizes their demotion to the rest of humanity. ... ||

      Mr. Ellis is not the only person troubled by this "demotion". Zionists seem horribly offended by the notion that the "identity" of Jewish does not make a human being any more special or entitled than any other human being.

  • Israeli forces raid Palestinian publishing house, trashing equipment, confiscating printers
    • Aside: According to this news story, a French soldier in France (i.e., not militarily occupying non-French territory) was attacked by a machete-wielding individual. Despite the fact that France is not a "moral beacon" or "light unto the nations" state, the soldier managed not to summarily execute the attacker.

  • Jewish groups slamming Trump on refugees are hardhearted when it comes to Palestinian refugees
    • || catalan: ... Now we need practical proposals to integrate Israel and the future Palestinian state. ||

      OK:
      1. Abandon all forms of supremacism (no "Jewish State", "Muslim State", etc.).
      2. Create one or two secular and democratic states of and for their respective citizens, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally.
      3. Hold the state/s accountable for its/their past and on-going (war) crimes.
      4. Ensure that the state/s honour/s its/their obligations under international law.

    • || Steve Grover: sez an anti-Zionist bigot. ||

      That's an awesome "zinger"! :-)

      Nothing puts an anti-supremacist in his place like calling him an anti-supremacism bigot.

    • || yonah fredman: America’s motto “e pluribus unum”. Israel’s national anthem, nefesh yehudi homiya. These are 2 very different ideas. ... ||

      Integration for all vs. supremacism for Jews - yes, they are 2 very different ideas.

      || ... Can the Zionist acceptance of the nakba [sic] as necessity allow for a full acceptance of Palestinian equality on the land? ... ||

      You might as well ask: Can the Nazi acceptance of the Holocaust as a necessity allow for a full acceptance of Jewish equality in Germany?

      The answer in both cases is 'no'.

      Nazi Germany had to go. Religion-supremacist "Jewish State" has to go.

  • Inside the 'secret' public-private partnership Israel is using to fight BDS
    • Peace is paved with diplomacy and discussion, not isolation.

      Cooperation, not continued conflict.

      Solutions come from engagement not silence.

      Peace is not paved with and solutions do not come from the Zionist belief that Jews are entitled:
      - to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine; and
      - to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      Funny, too, how these statements are ignored when it comes to Iran, Syria, Islamic State, etc. (Why is Israel being singled out for special treatment?)

      Zionist hypocrisy is alive and well...

  • What would Anne Frank do?
    • || yonah fredman: ... If you think a discussion of Anne Frank helps the cause of the Palestinians ... ||

      I'd like to know which part of...
      - Jewish supremacism in/and a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine;
      - the decades-long and on-going occupation and colonization of Palestine;
      - oppressing, torturing and murdering Palestinians; and
      - refusing to allow Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and lands in Israel and not-Israel,
      ...helps the Palestinians.

    • || Steve Grover: Anne Frank would be a proud Zionist just like Elie Wiesel. ... ||

      She would be a hateful and immoral supremacist hypocrite? That seems like a pretty horrible thing to say about Ms. Frank.

  • 'We have nowhere else to go': Bedouins say they will continue to rebuild as Israel carries out home demolitions at a record pace
    • || Mooser: ... Or the original K.C. Douglas ... ||

      Cool.

      || ... Me, thank you, I’d prefer to take my chances the way God made me, if I could. and if it was Goddess, instead, that’s even a better goddam reason to leave it alone! ||

      Amen. :-)

    • || Mooser: ... “eljay” the term “circumcision” covers a lot of ground. Some of the milder forms may be of little consequence, or at least harmless. ... ||

      Those, according to Jackdaw logic, would be the forms that involve less fear or hatred of males or penises.

      || Mooser: ... Me, when I want something “chopped and channeled” I’ll pick up a ’39 Mercury. ||

      And then, let me guess, you're gonna cruise it up and down the road. :-)

    • || Jackdaw: Last year, the last Bedouin tribe finally ended clitoridectomy of their women. Hatred of women, or fear of women? ||

      I don't see how the desire of the Bedouin to retain their presence in the Negev results in clitoridectomies, but if clitoridectomies were in fact necessary for the Bedouin to retain their presence in the Negev, halting the practise would seem to put their presence in the Negev at risk.

      Also, if clitoridectomies indicate a hatred or fear of women, circumcision must indicate a hatred or fear of males or of penises. The Bedouin apparently no longer hate or fear women. When will Jews and their Arab co-circumcisionists stop hating or fearing males or their penises?

    • || Jackdaw: ... In all honesty, I don’t think enough of you or your ‘dead ender’ cohorts, to make the effort to contrive a lie. ||

      Which could mean that you think enough of us to effortlessly contrive a lie. :-)

    • || Jackdaw: Smacks of misogeny [sic] to me. ||

      The desire of the Bedouin to retain their presence in the Negev stems from a hatred of women? Interesting.

    • || Jackdaw: On a recent trip to the Dead Sea, a Bedouin waiter told my wife that he had 38 brothers and sisters from his father and the father’s wives. ... ||

      That's quite the demographic threat!

      || ... The Bedouin are not disappearing from the Negev. ||

      The stubbornness of the Bedouin smacks of "Jew hatred".

    • || RoHa: ... Have I left anything out, eljay? ||

      Just one thing: "I feel that the nakba [sic] was a necessary wrong … "

      Oh, and it's "primarily celebrate".

      Other than that, well done. :-)

  • The Quebec mosque shooting and the Zionist connection
    • || captADKer: no more than shooter’s link to zionism so obviously fictional and fatuously established in this desparate attempted association that gathered many responders gulping such disbelief. ... ||

      Oh, I see, that was a "zinger". Well, as they say in Texas: Fool me - you can't get fooled again.

    • || captADKer: why haven’t any of these loosely connectiing sleuths commented on the shooter’s arguably known association to the Slenderman meme? ||

      Slender Man: Cool...in a creepy sort of way.

      I did a quick google for links to "the shooter's arguably know association" to this meme but couldn't find any. Have you got one or two to share?

    • || Annie Robbins: ... he likes that link. just not the context. ||

      And if catalan has taught us anything, it's that "putting numbers without context is manipulative".

    • || Mooser: ... “Report: WH Aide Boris Epshteyn Wrote Holocaust Statement That Omitted Jews” ||

      ... "I know what I said. I didn't say Jared's name," Spicer said. "No, I'm not getting into who wrote it, but he has several members of the Jewish faith on his senior staff." ...

      Uh-oh! Spicer's going to get an earful from hophmi for referring to Jewish only as a faith and not also as a tribe, collective, culture, ethnicity, people, nation and civilization. :-(

    • ... The mention of ‘Allahu akbar” appears to be a dog-whistle. It’s supposed to mean ‘Jihadist radical Islam’ or something like that. But do people realise, that shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ in a scene of an attack, especially by Arab-speaking Muslim, can be equivalent to an English-speaking Christian shouting ‘Oh my God!’? ...

      My understanding is that it was the killer who (allegedly) shouted "Allahu akbar" as he entered the mosque. It makes sense that he would do so: The phrase would be the perfect "f*ck you" to the people he despised and was about to murder.

      ... “We are facing another ‘ism,’ just like we faced Nazism, and fascism, and imperialism and communism,” Flynn said. “This is Islamism, it is a vicious cancer inside the body of 1.7 billion people on this planet and it has to be excised.” ...

      Zionism - blatantly and unapologetically oppressive, thieving, murderous and supremacist - is also a vicious cancer inside the body of millions upon millions of people on this planet and it has to be excised.

  • 'No Ban, No Wall' highlights the common struggle in US and Palestine
    • || Theo: eljay

      I like your reasoning, not a ton, but 2,000 pounds, after all they are both the same!
      We usually talk about decades, or kilos, or meters before we hit the higher unit of measurement!!! ... ||

      Fair enough. And that's why it made no sense for you to correct me about decades.

      || ... You forgot that we talk about limiting immigration and not about more wars!
      Stay with the subject. ||

      You expressed (feigned) shock at what "the islam" was doing to the West. I pointed out that the actions of "the islam" shouldn't come as a surprise. Stay with the subject.

      || ... By the way, I was against our wars since Vietnam, how about you, smarty? ... ||

      I'm against all violence.

      || ... However I am a realist, not a half blinded idealist. ||

      Curious: Is being a realist something like being a hypocrite and does this allow you to be against all wars except for the ones you favour?

    • || Theo: eljay
      It is not decades, but since 1918, also almost a century the west subjugates the moslems in the ME ... ||

      "almost a century" = almost ten decades. I don't see how that's "not decades".

      || ... do you think we should just lay down and take what is coming our way, because we did the same to them? ||

      Are you saying the rapist should continue to brutalize his victim because she intends to harm him however she can?

      I don't believe that any nation is entitled to defend itself by deliberately committing (war) crimes outside of its borders.

    • || Theo: ... The islam declared war on the west, just look what is happening in Europe! ||

      It's no wonder "the islam" has declared war on the West: Just look at what the West has been doing for decades in the Middle East!

  • Why the Personal Has Always Been Political: an Iranian-American reflects on the Trump executive order on refugees
    • || Mayhem: The point is that the MW troops muster to complain about the Trump edict about refugees but have never winced at the fact that 16 Muslim nations have banned Israelis from entering their countries for years. The MW hypocrisy and double standards are clear. ||

      Meanwhile, Zionist troops muster to complain that 16 Muslim nations have banned foreigners from Israel from entering their countries but have never winced at the fact that Israel refuses to allow its refugees - its own people - to return to their homes and lands. The Zionist hypocrisy and double standards are clear.

    • || Mayhem: Not a word of concern over the fact that most of the countries covered by the Trump ban have a total exclusion on the admission of Israeli citizens. The sheer hypocrisy of the anti-Trump brigade is rife. ||

      I think it's shameful that so many countries ban Israeli citizens from their territories, presumably for no good reason. But I wasn't aware that Trump was the leader of those countries.

      Oh, wait a minute, I get it now: You're just saying - as you Zionists always do - that murderers exist so it's OK to rape.

  • 'Come all ye faithful' and 'Kiss my Jewish ass, Donald' -- sacred and profane mix at NY demos
  • Protesters join immigrant protectors at LAX
    • That's a better joke than the one about Obama:

      While he was President of the United States of America, a young man named Barry worked to destabilize sovereign states, overthrow sovereign governments and assassinate individuals.

      For his efforts, he was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.

  • Trump's anti-interventionism helped him win, says Obama's former Middle East adviser
    • || catalan: ... That’s why putting numbers without context is manipulative. ||

      Hmmm...this would explain why Israel puts number of Israeli deaths without context of:
      - its decades-long and on-going occupation and colonization of Palestine; and
      - the far-larger number of Palestinian deaths at the hands of the "Jewish State".

  • Signs you may be a 'normalizer'
    • || Mayhem: ... I tried to comment about Eljay’s particular gripe with Zionism and immediately I detect a raw nerve when my remarks were censored – a couple of times. ... ||

      Gosh, I wonder what you were going to say about my "particular gripe" with the supremacist ideology you advocate, justify and defend. I have a feeling it wasn't going to be anything nice. :-(

    • || Mooser: “eljay” with a plan, and and a back-up plan, we can’t lose! ||

      Two plans plus the knowledge that the "Jewish State" will last a thousand years - no wonder Zionists are so arrogant confident!

    • || Mooser: ... ROTFLMSJAO! And with 2 billion Jews to absorb what ever blow falls in response, we can take the hit and keep on going. And all the Jews in other countries aren’t hostages now, either. ... ||

      Zionists are well-prepared for blowback.

      First, there's Plan A: Smugly tell the world that Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them, so the world can f*ck right off.

      Should Plan A fail, they can count on Plan B: Point the finger at other Jews, shout "That one there, he's a Jew! Get him!!" and run away.

    • || catalan: ... Israel would not allow foreign troops in its capital. ... ||

      Foreign troops don't need to enter Israel's capital of Tel Aviv in order to end its decades-long and on-going military occupation and colonization of non-Israeli territory.

    • || Maghlawatan: The Zionist “history is full of brutality” argument works both ways. ... ||

      In the Zionist mind, it only works one way: Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      Zionists are hateful and immoral fools for deliberately and unapologetically undermining human rights and international laws and the protections they are meant to afford all people. I simply cannot comprehend why Zionists hate Jews so much.

    • || Mayhem: ... Dajani asserts that the anti-normalization campaign is preventing progress in advancing coexistence and achieving peace. ... ||

      What prevents progress in advancing coexistence and achieving peace is Zionism - the unjust and immoral belief that people who choose to be/come Jewish are entitled:
      - to a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine; and
      - to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      No-one should be expected or required to accept or validate the past and on-going evils of Zionism.

    • || @aa: ... It’s not particularly refreshing to see that commenters here continue to put words in other people’s mouths ... ||

      No kidding. Some commenters put an entire paragraph's worth of words into other people's mouths.

    • || @Dar: ... the entire history of the earth is comprised of one group ‘colonizing’ another and the Arabs did their own fair share ... ||

      You can always count on a Zionist to defend his "moral beacon" and "light unto the nations" state by arguing the equivalent of "Murderers exist, so it's OK to rape."

  • Leading Clintonite worries that Trump will sell out Israel in forging deal with Russia
    • || catalan: ... Israel is fully capable of looking after itself, in fact will do so by hook or by crook. ... ||

      And that's the story until the next time it becomes useful for Israel to once again be just a tiny nation perpetually on the verge of being wiped off the map and pushed into the sea.

    • Leading Clintonite worries that Trump will sell out Israel in forging deal with Russia

      Leading Clintonite shouldn't worry that an alliance with Russia might abrogate America's alliance with Israel:
      - The alliance with Russia would be in America's interest.
      (Leading Clintonite cares about America...yes?)

      - It would be based on existing or developing "shared common values" that could naturally evolve into an "unbreakable bond" with "no light between".
      (All good stuff, right?)

      - Israel wouldn't be the first country to have it's alliance with the U.S. scrapped. Kicking Israel to the curb would be entirely in line with Zionist demands that "the world's only 'Jewish State'" not be singled out.
      (Leading Clintonite isn't anti-Semitically suggesting singling out the "Jewish State"...is she?)

  • Israeli gov't doesn't really want US to move embassy to Jerusalem -- Foxman
    • || catalan: ... I feel that we have now entered alternate reality. ... ||

      It sure seems that way. Not only did you (intentionally?) attribute to me something oldgeezer said but, in the previous reality, you were entirely unable to distinguish between states and governance and individuals.

    • || oldgeezer: ... Yes east European nations are third rate nations. Not to to say their citizens are third rate or even not first rate in any way. Their states and governance are equivocable to other hell holes ruled by despots and dictators. ... ||

      || catalan: ... Maria Curie, Tesla, Brahms, Liszt, Erdos, Tarski, Kafka. Given the role of Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Serbia etc in western and global civilization that comment sounds beyond ignorant – laughable maybe? ||

      What is beyond ignorant - laughable actually - is your cheap distortion of what he said. Unless, of course, you're suggesting that Curie, Tesla, Brahms, Liszt, Erdos, Tarski and Kafka are not people but states and governance.

    • ... no Israeli will publicly say that Jerusalem is not important or you shouldn’t move it. This is where the Trump administration, maybe because of the whisper of some Jews, believed every time you guys say Jerusalem, is Jerusalem ...

      The "whisper of some Jews" smacks mightily of anti-Semitism and maybe even "Jew hatred".

  • MIT President meets with rightwing pro-settlement Israeli leader
    • ... Reif, an electrical engineer, is of Jewish descent, and MIT described him as a “citizen of the world” ...

      I wonder what MIT would call an electrical engineer of non-Jewish descent who selectively supported supremacism and (war) crimes against Jews.

  • More and more people see 'one state only' but Remnick fears it will be like Bosnia
    • || RoHa @ January 26, 2017, 9:58 pm ||

      Spot on, old chap! :-)

    • || Boo: I listened to this entire interview and was struck that Dani Dayan kept insisting that no progress was possible “until the Palestinians acknowledge Israel’s right to exist”. Well, most Palestinian leaders have already granted this, so I suppose he insists on 100% compliance before Israel will even consider changing its policies and tactics. ... ||

      Dayan - like all Zionists - wants the Palestinians (and the rest of the world, too, I suppose) to acknowledge Israel's "right" to exist as a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" in as much as possible of Palestine.

      And of course it would be anti-Semitic to acknowledge this "right" without also absolving Israel of:
      - its obligations under international law (including RoR); and
      - accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes.

  • Trump's vow to move embassy to Jerusalem is now a 'decision-making process'
    • According to this Dec. 12, 2016 article:

      ... During a March address to AIPAC, Trump said he intended to “move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem.” In a television interview that month Trump assured the move would happen “fairly quickly.”

      However, shortly after Trump’s November 8 victory, Walid Phares, one of his foreign policy advisers, appeared to walk back the pledge to relocate the embassy.

      “Many presidents of the United States have committed to do that, and he said as well that he will do that, but he will do it under consensus,” Phares said, causing some confusion. He later clarified that he meant “consensus at home,” yet what he means by that is still somewhat murky ...

      If it's possible for Trump to do so, I imagine he will advocate the move but leave the formal authorization / approval to others. That way, if things:
      - go well, he can boast that he made good on his promise to "the Jewish people";
      - go poorly, he can blame the people responsible for the ill-advised decision.

  • Palestinian teen in Gaza dies after refusing to serve as a collaborator for Israel in exchange for medical care
    • || Kay24: ... No religion will condone this kind of inhumane treatment of others. ... ||

      Religious texts, on the other hand, do condone the inhumane treatment of others.

    • || RoHa: ... I see no prospect of the Israeli Jews developing a sense of decency ... ||

      I see no prospect of Zionist Israelis and non-Israeli Zionists developing a sense of decency.

  • By their bulldozers you will know them
    • || mcohen.: N Bennett has a plan that i read recently

      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/223774

      It sounds like a step in the right direction ... ||

      Among other things, Bennett's plan calls for as large as possible a religion-supremacist "Jewish State" next to as small as possible a Palestinian "strong autonomy", as well as absolution of obligations under international law (such as RoR of refugees).

      It's definitely a step in the "right direction" of Zionist injustice and immorality, but it's many more steps away from the right direction of justice, accountability and equality.

  • Obama 'betrayed' American Jews and Trump is a 'swineherd' -- Bernard-Henri Levy
    • || catalan: ... it is heartwarming to see that we are at the dawn of a new age, one without Zionism, nationalism, evil, where people will be honest, generous, and kind towards each other. I hope to see it. Sometimes I have moments of doubt, but when I read the confidence in this new era on the White World I get hopeful again. It is encouraging that the end of violence and evil is almost here ... ||

      The existence of evil is not an invitation to partake of it. Zionists don't get it or don't care but, either way, they just want their share.

    • || Peter in SF: This week, BHL ... said that anyone who supports BDS against Israel is required to support BDS against other countries such as Syria. ... ||

      A quick google indicates that BHL supported military intervention in Libya and Syria. According to his "logic", he should also support military intervention in Israel. Does he, or is he just another Zionist hypocrite in a seemingly endless line of Zionist hypocrites?

  • Video: Palestinian activists set up tent village to protest Israeli annexation and Trump plan to move US embassy
    • || jonjames: I don’t know about moving the embassy, but plans are proceeding to build the third temple in Jerusalem. Exciting ! ||

      It's bad enough that you get off on injustice and immorality without also touching yourself in public.

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