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  • American Zionist responses to Tel Aviv riots-- largely indifferent, but some outrage
    • The Georgetown University Israeli Alliance made a sarcastic, ignorant and vicious tweet: Israel! Be nicer to those Africans we are murdering, maiming, and raping in Somalia and Sudan. Yours always, the freedom loving Arab world.

      After some blow back the Israeli Alliance felt no need to retract the tweet, and as the criticism grew, and with foundation, they dug themselves even further with an apology that was not an apology of the ugly tweet, but a statement of narcissistic self pity.

       The tweet was merely an expression of our view that Israel is, as often happens, held to an unfair standard on the issue of African refugees. It was also comment on the fact that the refugees themselves have received considerably more attention than the conflicts that spawned them. Nativism in Israel is ugly and should be condemned, but is not unique to Israel in nature or degree.

      link to blog.georgetownvoice.com

  • Affirming a Judaism and Jewish identity without Zionism
    • Dim,

      Next year in Jerusalem is a figgin' metaphor for peace, resolution, communion of all.

      Are you really so simple?

      The Torah, Old testament is a metaphor. People wrote in parables, stories, metaphors for larger meaning. This literal interpretation of written words is something modern.

    • Zionism has always had the goal of control over the maximum amount of land with the minimum number of Arabs. Demography has always been the main rationale for Israeli policy. It was the policy in 1948 and it has been the same policy on the West Bank since 1967. The Occupation is simply the continuation of the same Zionist goals that led to the Nakhba.

      The enterprise of Zionism (the Golden Calf, if we will) has only used Judaism for it's ends.

      As more and more Jews such as leaders like Rabbi Walt come to see, the enterprise will fail (as all enterprises do) and a return to Judaism may begin. But he is still on the Journey.

      For Hilda, solidarity with the oppressed, with those who are treated unjustly, was what it meant to be a Jew.

      Isn't such solidarity what it means to be a complete human being?

      I wish Rabbi Walt much success and hope that his message will be embraced, but am afraid he will pay a terrible price for the honest journey he has taken.

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  • Israelis sling racial epithets to mark 45 years of a Jerusalem ‘unification’
    • Humiliation and demonization of the "other" is often a pillar of nationalism, taking sides, creating and nurturing enemies to make a cohesive identity based on fear of the others. Not only a Zionist sickness.

      It is sadly the created self identity (victimology) of Zionism. It is been talked about a lot on this forum. But why don't Zionist nurture the positive history and contributions to western culture by Judaism, instead of the dark episodes -- similar to those that most all defined groups share in the arch of history?

      I think I know -- cultural control. Make a group, society a people fearful and you have them in control.

      Imagine telling your children from the earliest years that they must live in fear of the others. That is so sick. So abusive. Self perpetuating. And ultimately pathologically narcissistic.

  • The Messiah's Donkey: Settlers fire on Palestinian villagers as the Israeli military watches
    • Welcome to Oleg's world:
      ...then the Palestinians have no rights either and then might is right..

      No wonder he believes in myths of the Bronze age when no matter what "might was right." Carry that logic just a little further and we live in barbarism, where a justification of might being right can always be found.

      The more Oleg writes here, the more he shows a horribly deranged face of Zionism.

  • Aharon Appelfeld's rage at the German language (and Arendt's need for it)
    • Deutsch ist vielseitig. Wie bei alle Sprachen, est gibt unheimliche schöne gesriebene und gesprochene Deutch, und hässliche Deutsch. Ich habe gelernt Die Deutsche Sprache sehr zu schätzen.

    • Yiddish is German, a medieval German, spoken in the east. It was preserved and lived on as many of those in Eastern Europe lived closed communities. A speaker of High German (which does not mean qualitatively better, but only that it is not the German dialect of the flat lands to the North and to the East) can communicate just fine with a speaker of Yiddish German.

      This might not be a very good comparison, but perhaps it is sort of life the Elizabethan English that could still be heard in some areas of the southern part of the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake up until the early 60s. I still remember hearing it. Different and antiquated, but it was English for sure.

  • 'King Bibi' is ready for his close up, and 'Time' is willing to oblige
    • This is nothing new. It is Time magazine, which is a propaganda rag to promote agendas and popular culture -- it's films, under Time Warner. Am surprised that anyone could call Time Magazine "One of America’s finest news publications."

      Time and Life (of Time Life, Inc. ) shilled for Sharon back in the day. Even after the atrocious and criminal massacres at Sabra and Shatila under the responsibility of Sharon they back stepped (after Sharon sued for Libel) and promoted Sharon.

      Does anyone remember the photo portrait of Sharon holding his white puppy dogs (so cuddly and cute) Life Magazine published in the early 1980s of him after the the human disasters under his leadership?

      Cannot find it anywhere, but remember it well.

  • Rep. Pitts in damage control mode following call for Arafat-Sharon negotiations
    • Evan, it was surely drafted by an intern. But if sent out by postal mail, it was signed by Pitts.

      Aside from that, interns are regularly briefed on policy stance. If an intern wrote such idiocy, it tells us the level of education.

      Add to that, it is the interns and congressional aids with whom lobbyist interact, and in turn influence our legislators.

      Our government is run by 23-year- olds?

    • Fred, have you ever worked in those offices?

      If it was a mailed letter, it was signed.

    • I don't get it, even if Language that should have been archived was included in a draft response. The response was then pulled from the queue because of the error, and then mistakenly sent almost a year later. was used, it was still completely off and wrong. Arafat has been gone for years and Sharon is well.....still not available for comment and hasn't been for years.

      Nor are form letters used in response to personal letters. Congressman have much staff and most all responses are handled by interns.

      I think what happened is an intern drafted it and it was signed by Pitts who like much of the US Congress, is completely clueless.

  • More 'magnet than a mallet': RAND Corporation warns against striking Iran
    • Oleg, my apologies.....my memory -- which was wrong -- was that you shared your father was in the Red Army.

      So to set the record straight: it was your grandfather?

    • Woody, Oleg tells us his father was in the Red Army and enjoyed the Victories, including the the Red Army siege onto Koenigsberg where, as Oleg tells us he believes, the civilians deserved all they got and more -- in the mind of Oleg, that is.

  • West Virginia newspaper: 'Apartheid imposed on Palestinians'
    • West Virginians keep electing the same corrupt representatives. Arch Moore, governor and power broker decades while stealing from west virginians until he finally went to the Pen for some months. But used the down time to get his Daughter into Congress, and is now (even in his weakened state) pushing that she run for a senate seat. She has a good chance. Name recognition and all those years of bilking the state to fill the coffers.

      No different from third world politics.

    • If defensive and unhinged comments liked

      " ravenous packs of feral humans has defended itself from the latter in four major conflicts and continues to do so on a daily basis as these animals..."

      Is the spirit of Israeli Zionism and this is what our billions per year sent to Israel support ( with congresswoman Shelly Capito Moore -- R-WA-- a Zionist defender) we are still in deep deep trouble.

      These things do not end well and it will be a disaster for Israel. When it finally blows up at a terrible cost to all, there will be the voices that the USA made Israel do it.

      Considering how much money gets pumped into Israel by the US for war, the argument will follow a sort of logic and stick.

  • Peter Berg: Israel attacking Iran is a more important issue than my board game-inspired film 'Battleship'
    • Anon,

      Yes, from what we do know for sure, lots of coordination and culpability on both sides and it takes two to get a false flag operation going.

      What most all Americans (and Israelis) do not understand is that their governments are not working for them, nor their protection -- which is the purpose of a government anyway. The conflict industry is one big sick enterprise.

      We spend more on Heimatschutz (homeland security) toys for the local cops than getting the raving Meth epidemic under control.

      Meanwhile the Sheeple get all teary and emotionally worked up in Jewish self identity myths associated with a piece of real estate and then send their brainwashed children into "fight for it." And a worker in Iowa sends his 18-year-old to some isolated facility in Iraq to "protect America" only to get him back as a vegetable, minus one leg.

      I was recently in a meeting with Congressional staffers on another issue. Someone at the table mentioned Israel on the side, and then like a Pavlovian bark, one of the staffers immediately interjected totally off topic, "we 'gotta always support Israel for security protection. blah blah."

      You could tell he was trained for the tirade.

      And so is our entire government.

      The United States government and Israel are ONE. That will never change as long as the US exists as a country.

  • On the sidewalk in Hamburg-- 'Hier wohnte'
    • @ Oleg

      The Swiss are no more of a nation than the Swiss Of your example are. The Swiss would be offended by this characterization. Switzerland is an administrative confederation of many different central european groups. After all the Conferderation Helvetica has four federal languages and many dialects of each group in the Confederation.

      It could be a model for Israelistan.

    • Why do people join the military? Advertising that appeals to the mind of a teenage man/boy.

      One night I was walking my dog late in the evening in Weisbaden. I came upon a gentleman who noticed my Amerikanische accent. He said he had been a pow under the Americans and that is probably why he was still alive -- because he was captured early in his game.

      I'll never forget how he laughed at himself with a sence of self disgust when he said he actually joined the Wehrmacht because he wanted to experience "the victory?"

      He walked away in the dark shaking his head about himself.

      So back to your question? Maybe it is the mind of undeveloped and brainwashed young men.

    • Klaus, Oleg has had a life of brainwashing. it is all about him and "his people" whatever that is.

      Russians I know comment in that slightly sardonic way that the Russians murdered their own 25 million or more in a systematic and industrialized manner. With that measurement (if a crime can be measure?) the crimes against their own vastly surpass any in modern history.

      Whip people up in a frenzy of fear and hate and tribal sense of self for a cause, and you can get them to do anything. And the Oleg's of the world are fine with it.

      If you have been to Königsberg, you know that the Russians are trying to revive what was destroyed of a German past and culture. Russians of today (and even then) know what was done was a terrible crime.

      But the Olegs of the world, who has a culture of "us and them" and blut und boden thinks the destruction of a people was right due to the crimes of its leaders and a collective insanity of too many. (Look at the USA right now.)

      With his logic, should all peoples be destroyed? (Shows how crazy he and much of the weird logic of Zionism is.)

    • Like I said Oleg, it's you and the Ratko Mladics of the world. All that is needed is someone to just REPRESENT crimes is enough to torture them.

      That an individual can represent it in your mind, just be a symbol of it, is enough for torture, rape and murder.

      You are doing a great job Hasbaring for Israel, but they might have to re-program you. How much do they pay your for this?

    • Klaus, don't you know about the Jew Gene? They were looking for the Jewish finger print in the 50's and gave that up, but there is still the research arm (funded by you know who) hunting for the Jewish Gene. It's gotta' be there somewhere.

    • "I have no opinion of you Ellen nor your wife." Yes, you obviously do.
      Ergo your statements.

      I am a she. And it was my mother-in-law who suffered at the hands of the Red Army. Surviving the rapes (where most women and girls did not) only because she slit her own throat. But they found they needed her alive for other reasons.

      Perhaps your father was one of the rapists enjoying his Red Army victory and revenge on the grandmother of my children.

    • You're getting touchy now. Must have hit a nerve.

      How about the hundreds of thousands who died in Concentration camps resisting? How about the Nuns on the Rhein who went to their deaths escorting the handicapped to their work camps? How about the Priests in Dachau?

      Don't you get it? There is horrible crime everywhere and against all at some time. It is the dark human condition with roots in revenge.

      Something you find justified, can related to -- you and the Ratko's of the world. His words and language is eerily similar to yours.

    • Oleg, well you went there.

      Israel actively supplied weapons to Ratko Mladic at that time and then weaseled out of it saying they did not know they landed there. Serbia and Israel are still buddy buddy in the arms business.

      As for the deflection on Palestinian "terrorist usual rhetoric..." Never heard it before and if we had, that would not make it wrong.

      You are deflecting because the shoe fits! Like I said you and Ratko could be really great buddies.

    • Oleg, what do you think of the hundreds of young German boy hanging from trees in city parks in view of the public because they deserted the Army?

      After all, they were Germans, so deserved to be hung if even by their own government? Right?

      Good luck in life of a blind man who cannot see a person. You will need it living with fears and hates.

    • Shmuel, Oleg's comments were not callous. That would indicate no emotion. His comments were meant to hurt, to cut deep.

      He is a man who has been raised to hate others, no matter what.

      He revealed to us that in his mind I am nothing more than filth:

      I am not a Zionist, and even worse, I married into a family that he believes deserved torture and death and more because of where and under what government they lived.

    • With a primitive tribal self understanding and that of the world, I cannot imagine you COULD have sympathy for any "other" group, really. After all, they are the "other." Not quite human, certainty not deserving of feeling.

      And heck being a narcissist the entire world population (other than your tribe, that is) is against you. ("Everyone hates me whaaaaaa!")

      By transcending our "tribes" we achieve humanity.

      Israel? Don't think the narcissistic biblical passage of revenge could be applied to an abstract of a State and it's citizens. You say that, but it fits that you would based on your postings here and expressed world understanding.

      If you really believe in whirlwinds of revenge, I guess one could say it applies to Zionism.

      But unlike you, I-- and I believe most people -- have deep sympathy for all human suffering, no matter the sins of their deranged leaders, their fathers or mothers. No matter.

      BTW, the Ratko Mladic trials are on today. His world view is just like yours! You might dig watching him during the proceedings.

      In his mind all those thousands and thousands of Muslim men and boys needed to be murdered because of perceived or real whatever by someone or some group back in the day.

      And the many hundred of children needed to be snipped out on their way to school.

      You know, they grow up and might be dangerous. Nip it in the bud.

      So Ratko is just your kind of guy.

    • No, a cultivated exceptionality by anybgroup over others is disgusting to all.

      You say and project that only ideas of Jewish exceptional ism triggers irritation.

      The smaltzy joke is vulgar, not funny.

    • Oleg, are you speaking to yourself with all this reaping a whirlwind blather?

    • As the red army enjoyed their victory in Koenigsberg (now Kalinengrad) my grand-father-in Law was nailed to a tree. He had been a school teacher, was not a member of anything, nor in the army. My father in law suffered a similar fate, but survived. Once the Red Army learned they needed him ( a young surgeon). But the permanent damage was done.

      He and my mother in law (who survived by random fate even after slitting her own throat) were the only survivors in their families of the Red Army victory celebrations.

    • There was a very high suicide rate in the Whermacht, the German army around WW II. Often because it was the fastest way out of what was inevitable.

    • Tribe?

      Jews, the first known monotheists, ceased to be a tribe thousands of years ago as its form of monotheism spread the world, taking other forms such as Christianity --- Jews who adopted universalism over tribalism.

  • The media Israel complex
    • By "not as hard hitting," I mean it could have been better researched. Either way, it is well worth listening to.

    • Yes, and yes about NPR. But this recent radio show "On the Media" which has always been occupied regarding all things Israel, indicated a shift, an opening of ears.

      Political Misdirection, A Raid on Palestinian TV, and More
      link to onthemedia.org

      Not hard hitting as it could be, but did attempt to show that something is very wrong with the occupation. I wonder what the blow back against the producers has been?

  • That was Jane Harman of Newsweek trying to quash Medea Benjamin's stellar soliloquy against drones
    • People are sitting in jail for less. She heads a major and influential foreign policy think tank.

      And our Congress just approved a nine billion "security" package to Israel today.

    • Allen, so true.

      For those inclined, go to to Wilson Center and dig out the thesis done by John Montgomery right after WW II while he was also at State. He had worked as a liaison in thenPalistinian territories while it was still under Ottoman administration (in the last dying days of the Empire.)

      Montgomery made the case of the long term disastrous consequences to the region and US interests if support a Zionist enterprise. He understood the region,history, people...and the interests of the US.

      After returning to State, he was on the path of a career diplomat, not a politicalm appointee.

      He died with a bullet to his head on Christmas Eve, 1958, at an Army facility in Kansas while waiting for for the arrival of his wife and four very young children.

      The Army deemed it a depression related suicide.

  • Are Obama and Netanyahu now joined at the hip for election season?
    • Tomorrow this bill will be voted upon in Congress:
      Cantor the traitor to the United States has sponsored it and it is filled with the usual gifts to Israel to assure its own self destruction and ongoing war business. Most most grievous and far reaching is this clause:

      (3) Actions to integrate Israel into the defense of the Eastern Mediterranean.

      link to thomas.loc.gov
      This is really a disaster even for Israel.

  • It is shocking to see a farmer having to go thru a military checkpoint to get to his land
    • This might be a little off topic, but I do not know where else to post.

      What, exactly, is meant by "the land of Isreal?"

      Have you noticed it too? Israel is no longer referred to simply as...Israel, like France would be France, or Canada, simply Canada. But it is The Land of Israel

      Are we supposed to now say things like the land of France? The land of Italy? The land of Egypt?

      What is this all about?

  • Who's the anti-Semite?
    • playforP.

      if Germany is exclusively defined as having a civic national character, then why did East and West Germany favor reunification despite all of the associated risks?

      For one, immediate families could be re united -- brothers and sisters, parents and children, etc. And as you might know, East Germany was never recognized as a country by the US, and even by Israel.

      Modern Germany is made of many regions, each distinct. The Frieslander on the North Sea has a very different culture, even somewhat different language than the Bavarian. But both are German in that they share a common national passport.

      The Sardinien has a different culture than the family in Milan.

      Nations are a modern abstract and not defined by ethnicity, which is in constant change and flux anyway.

    • There are people who "hate" the French because they are French or Muslims because they are Muslim, or Catholics because they are Catholic, or black Africans because they are...well, are what they are. It is tribal brainwashing.

      So forgetta 'bout it! Get over yourself.

      Using phoney expressions like anti Semite to desribe an ignoramus who is Anti Jewish is not 'gonna change that.

      Why would Anyone, let alone Jews, adopt an expression (Semite) coined by a raving bigot (Mahr) to describe Jews ?

      (and do not go on with the baloney about the Jew gene and genetic roots going back thousands of years to some bronze age tribes wandering around the Middle East....geesh!)

      Seems pathological, cultivating a narcissistic self understanding of victimhood.

    • Sorry, wikepidea is a tainted source. And as a global group, Jews are not any more connected to the middle east than, say, the overall western/European population. Many with close Slavic background, just as most middle, Northern and eastern Europeans.

      I live in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood with tons of kids. I like it with so many kids around.

      So many blonde, red heads, very fair children, you'd think we were in Scandinavia.

      Why do Zionist cling onto strange 18th century ideas of race and soil and origins as if that has reality and relevance?

      People have been roaming around the globe for thousands of years, mixing and moving. we all have the same origins .

    • The expression anti semitism is non sensical.

      Bigotry against group, such as Jews, which are of many nationalities and race, should be called what it is anti Jewish. Semitism has as little to do with Judasim as Christianity has for the last two thousand years. Like Christianity it spread ,itself around. Most Jews of the world have absolutey no Connection to Semitism .

    • Anti Semite = an aspersion cast upon the one who would dare question Zionism. A slur and slander. It means nothing more.

  • 'Let go of two-state solution insanity' -- says Illinois congressman who supports transfer
    • Walsh has raised a whole lot of money in this election cycle, the largest chunk from The Freedom Project. That is a PAC receiving lots of money that does not work for US interests.

      Walsh did not write the letter published, but it was mostly written for him, submitted to his legislative aid for Walsh's signature.

      That is how it works.

  • Israeli celebrity says she enjoyed video of IDF attacking Danish activist because he looked like a Nazi
    • Yiddish is a Medieval German dialect that survived in Jewish Communities of German speakers. Every German speaker understands most all of Yiddish. It is a variant of the same language. More so than say...."Swiss German" that no German speaker can understand.

  • Barghouti to U.S. Jews: I know you don't like the word apartheid, but what do you call a system that gives a settler 50 times more water than a Palestinian?
    • "This is vile antisemitism"

      You mean vile anti Jewish, or anti Judaism.

      Semitism means nothing and surely does not mean Judaism. Why Zionists cling to the semantics and language of a mid 19th century bigot's pamphlet for Jewish self identity is bizzare.

  • Video: Senior IDF officer smashes peaceful activist in the face with his M-16
    • Semitic referred to those speaking Semitic languages of the middle east. Only when the ideas of race and people and soil in Europe took off did Maar attach it to European Jews when he wrote Der Weg zum Siege des Germanenthums über das Judenthum ("The Way to Victory of Germanicism over Judaism?)

      Interestingly, this coincided with the rise of ideas behind Zionism and richly ironic that Zionism embraced the same language motivated by a perverse and bigoted wack job for self identity.

      Before that no self respecting European Jew would consider himself a Semitic person anymore than I would consider myself an Eskimo.

      So out of respect for both true semitic people and Jews everywhere, one should never ever use the expression anti Semitic or Semitic to refer to those of the Jewish religion.

  • The occupation reaches Europe: airlines cancel 'flytilla' passenger tickets
    • What is an "anti Semite?" I mean really. You know what is a Semite ? And the story of 2000 years of being kicked out from every where also just does not meet the facts . Learn real history. Jews have no monopoly being the persecuted or even (yet) as persecutors.

      Did you know that some of the first senators in the us were Jews, the first land owners in the South -- at a time whe not even Catholics were allowed to hold property or public office. When an entire people, not of a white race were in slavery.

      Doesn't fit the narrative of exceptional persecution, right?

  • With 'last ink,' Gunter Grass breaks silence on Israeli nuclear program threatening world peace
    • Winnica, you are attacking the messenger, not the message.

      No fan of Grass, regardless of his conscript status as a 17-year-old and obscuring it later in life, he wrote a poem that was published in a rather conservative mainstream paper, The Süddeutsche Zeitung.

      "Was gesagt werden muss" What must be said.

      Concentrating on what was said and not who said it is credible. Blabbering on about the Wehrmacht and Stadt Sicherheits Dieneste is irrelevant to what must be said.

  • The Israel/Palestine conflict will be resolved when Arab countries kick the U.S. out of the region
    • Wikipedia is your source? Wikipedia is occupied. Keep trying to give credibility and status to the old Mufti that had no influence and was a nobody by that time.

  • Young activist disrupts AIPAC panel about 'Israel on Campus'
  • Watch live video from OccupyAIPAC
    • I thought a lot about the comments that started with the Vatican, but were about the institution. It is quite PC (and why not?) to ridicule and smear the Catholic Church and those who might identify with the institution.

      Let's not get off topic and get into everyone's favorite the ole' Catholic bashing/ridiculing. The institution of the "Church" is not Catholicism. And like all institutions and states, as a whole, will do some awful things in the name of whatever....to survive. Maybe the worst thing that happened to Christianity/Catholicism is when Diocletian stopped is slaughter of Christians, and Constantine adopted it for political power. The church then became quickly institutionalized.

      So, how different is the institution of Penn State University than that of the Church? Some misguided people made some bad decisions, inhumane decisions to try and protect an institution. That is wrong, even evil and should be punished.

      But shall we condemn all students, researchers, etc., associated with Penn State University. Shall we dismiss all good the institution has done?

      As for the Inquisition. That was when the Spanish Throne and the Church (with rumblings of the reformation on the way) together went into a state of paranoia. And with the combination of the State and the Church under threat, the lapsed Catholics were under question, then that moved to the Conversos, then the Muslims -- most of whom were harassed, abused, tortured, murdered or sent away, spelling the end of Islamic influence and culture in Spain. And then finally the Jews knew they could not escape the spreading insanity in spite of fact that as a group, they held the highest social/cultural positions in Spain.

      Before their terrible and traumatic misfortune of expulsion, Issac Abrabanel -- who was the right hand to Ferdinand and Isabella -- asked for right of departure and safe passage. This was given, even by a papal bull. Issac requested and was granted that it would fall onto the ninth of the month of Ab of the Judaic calendar to correspond with the date of the destruction of the temple. Why?

      There was this apocalyptic fear movement going on in Europe at that time (another reason for the Inquisition) and Abrabanel belonged to the apologetically minded and into END OF TIMES drama meisters. (He wrote "Deliverance of the Anointed One" and held himself out as a leader of the messianic movement that was to follow. So making sure that Fred and Liz kicked them out on exactly the right date, would serve the bigger purpose -- in his mind -- of bringing all Jews together under the Messiah, which was supposed to happen on 1503.

      Sorry...I digressed. But the inquisition is so often cited and used for narratives, but so little is really known about it.

      Back to Catholic bashing. So London Bridge was adorned with Catholic Heads on both sides to remind all that the Church was no longer, and forever banned. This was political.

      But fed the wonderful tradition of Catholic mistrust and bashing to this day in much of Europe and North America. Remember the Know Nothing Party? Remember the murders of priests in Alabama and New England. Remember the burning of an Ursuline orphanage in NY? These things did not happen really all that too long ago. I have childhood memories of destruction and burning of a Catholic church where we briefly lived as a child.

      It is easy to make fun of the visual and symbolic traditions, pomp and prayer. But do not know if the Church as an institution well over 2000 years old has any more dirt in its history than any other state/institution?

  • In interview of Muslim Brotherhood leader, NPR repeatedly asks about Israel's security
    • Before going to Egypt and working there, I had all these fears. Then when there I found it relatively normal for women. OK, there is sometimes more hassling on the street than would be now tolerated in the West. But no different from the leering and crude vulgar comments and hassling women experienced in the 50's, 60's and 70's on the streets of southern Europe and in the US.

      Now that I am no longer there, I maintain deep warm and respectful friendships with Egyptian men and their families -- wives, parents, children. It cannot be compared to friendships I have with western men. Maybe it is friendships out of times of pivotal work and adversary... I do not know.

  • 'Former thug who found Judaism hopes to be first African-American in the Knesset'
    • "Hardie is looking for Hollywood producers interested in turning his 320-page autobiography "Black and Bulletproof: An African-American Warrior in the Israeli Army," published last year by New Horizon Press, into a movie. As actors for the lead role he suggests Will Smith, Jamie Foxx or Denzel Washington. "I think it would be great if we could get Steven Spielberg to direct it," he said. "

      That guy is on a roll.....promoting himself and his "story." He could have wound up with any cult-like group or gang. He just happened to wind up with that gang with guns.

    • the land of Israel

      That is such a sickening expression.

      It is popping up more and more among Hasbarists and religious fundametalists with an agenda. As if that is something real...."the land of Israel."

      Exactly what IS this land of Israel?

      All nations are modern legal constructs. Not real. This land of Israel lives in the mind of the indoctrinated. A Magical place....over the rainbow. And you are willing to kill for it.

    • Dimadok, you are asking the wrong question Care to call Koran or New Testament a myth?
      Maybe you know it is the wrong question and intended to divert.....but.

      The Koran, Old testament, New Testament are a series of SYMBOLIC stories of instructive principles. To illustrate greater truths. They are metaphors! Not ever written to be taken as literal. That is how principles, truths, whatever we want to call them were related.

      Only since the age of reason where ideas of scientific principles were we educated to take a written word as literal truth. This followed the Reformation and it is then that the whole Bible as "the literal word" took off. Maybe that rubbed off on modern fundamentalist Jews and Muslims. (Interesting how absolutely similar fundamentalist are no matter the cloak of religion they wear.)

      When the Koran or New Testament, Torah were written, they were never intended or even conceived as literal. That's not how "we" ticked back in the day.

      So yes, all those stories are symbolic and ideological constructs. Myths!

      Is that too difficult to understand.

  • Israel is at the heart of Jewish identity, Gorenberg says
    • Gorenburg is a very vain man.

    • Hopefully Zionist (both Christian and Jewish) will get over the idea of the abstract country (as all countries are only abstract judicial borders) has nothing to do with a religion and culture.

      No reason to be "afraid." The one who is fearful, is controlled.

      How often do we hear you cannot trust Catholics because they are Papists......or Muslims are terrorists. Groups such as Muslim or even African Americans have MUCH more to be fearful of than any.

    • "most Jews regarded Israel as their homeland..."

      It was a metaphor!

      Less than 400 years ago, all stories were metaphors and symbolic of the abstract.

      Israel was never a physical place. Only in the modern mind of embracing blut und boden ideologies. That started about 170 years ago in central Europe. Tied in with romanticism, ideas of "Heimat." Stuff like that.

      And that spawned justifications of the more "modern" Colonial enterprises, all of which used religion as a justification. And Israel is a relic of this colonialist and ultimately racists mind set.

      The idea that "most of the three millennia of Jewish history, most Jews regarded Israel as their homeland, and spent part of their spiritual and cultural lives engaging with it." are the words of someone who is completely brainwashed and has embraced the Golden Calf -- conceiving of the spiritual as physical.

  • Obama begins push for Jewish support in 2012 by touting the 'unbreakable bond' between Israel and the US
    • Every time I see Obama put his arm onto the shoulders of others he is speaking with, it gives me a sick feeling. It is an inappropriate and condescending gesture.

      I could not watch the sickening video of Obama pandering to any group, let along his pandering to American voters who confuse Israel with their personal identity.

      But this Obama tic of putting his hands on the shoulders of others is revolting. Can't his handlers re-train him?

    • "in the US you can also openly talk about the obscenity of having a foreign country’s spy agency kill the President of the US."

      First of all the Atlanta Jewish newspaper owner did not "talk about" he called for the Mossad in the US to make a hit and murder the President.

      Incitement to murder anyone, let alone the President of the United States is a federal crime.

      That this author calls in the Israeli Mossad roaming around the US to murder the US President is beyond words.......

  • The Mondo crew hosts WBAI’s 'Beyond the Pale' to discuss Ron Paul, Dennis Ross and the myth of Obama's 'Jewish problem'
    • Chaos4700, After going through this thread, Shaktimaan has shown himself to be a crazy person and racist to boot. Part of the condition perhaps.

      No offense meant, Shak, but I think you need some serious help. And I do not mean that as an insult but that maybe you should get some counseling or medication. Seriously, and my best wishes to health in the future.

    • Neighborhood Committees! OMG, that is the same thing as Gau Leiters. Ok,what was that? A Gau was like a little alley way, small section of neighborhoods in Berlin or Desden or Frankfurt, and each Gau had a Committee with a Leiter, a Leader.

      Ask a German about Gau Leiters and watch their eyes roll.

    • Shaktimann, by NOT signing the NPT, although Israel hold extensive Nukes, makes Israel a Rouge Nation., acting outside of the world community.

      Maybe that helps feed the "everyone hates us!" meme, but not good for Israel at all, making the world fearful of a rogue nation with Nukes.

      Does that help Israel in anyway?

  • Publisher of the 'Atlanta Jewish Times' suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama
    • Yes, the is a crime. Public calls to assassinate the President of the United States is a federal crime.

    • Resign? He owns the newspaper. He has apologized, but the crime has been committed. And that he would actually write something like that to his readers his horrific.

    • Lots. Just look at what happened to the US State Dept. "Arabists" in the late 1950s. I know this sounds like hyperbole, but historians can seek it out. Make your own conclusions.

  • 'Israel Firster' gets at an inconvenient truth
    • Private property is one thing.

      It is not a publicly licensed broadcaster with responsibilities to the broader public.

    • Well, when Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta's Jewish community, on January 13, 2012 to "order a hit onto Obama" to solve Israels problems.....we can only wonder why an American publisher would write that to the Jewish community? I do hope his readership and advertisers game him an earful.

      As he wrote to his thousands of readers in Atlanta this month:

      "Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies."

      Note "US. - based Mossad agents...."

      Here it is in the original

      https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html

    • This article reminded me of something. It was 1980, I think. Watching a local TV station outside of Philadelphia very late, there was the sign off broadcast at about 2:00 am. The broadcast was of the Israeli flag being raised with the Israeli national anthem solemnly playing in the background. I learned from others that this station always signed off with the Israeli flag and anthem in those wee hours.

      I had few opinions about world events or politics, but found it strange, even wrong, to regularly celebrate any foreign country on a US TV station sign-off.

  • Bombshell: Israeli intelligence posed as CIA to recruit terror group for covert war on Iran
    • Exactly....Huffpo has morphed into a filthy corner of internet propaganda and soft porn and sick violence or whatever it takes to get clicks.

      Why enrich the site with comments? Who reads it? Most left it a a year or more ago.

  • Netanyahu gets to play Superman in case of 7-year-old harassed by orthodox Jews
    • MRW, the US is already supporting that in many ways. Perhaps the media can detail all the ways Americans and their feckless Congress continue put their financial and naive moral support behind "that."

  • Nakba denial: 'NYT' removes the word 'expulsion' from article describing Palestinian refugees
    • So my uncle, who worked for the US State Dept. as a council to the Ottoman territories was executed by the remains of what was known as the Haganah. Will the NY Times ever report on that. No.

  • Reporters again turn State Dep't briefing into moshpit, scorning US 'impotence' in the conflict
    • seafoid, indeed. It could be the only explanation. Give 'em a long line. Hopefully Israel will figure it out soon enough.

      Nothing else makes sense. Unless, the US really is run by idiots or there really is a Samson option hanging over everyone's head.

      Shudder the thought.

  • Halper: Israel may attack Iran so that we won't hear the word 'Palestinian' for another 5 years
    • All responses to the oft inane postings by the FORMER Ambassador Ginsberg are filtered. I think by the man himself. This is how much time he has.

      Ginsberg was a huge donor to Bill Clinton. With that he was able to buy his Ambassador appointment to MOROCCO! He was a political appointment and an embarrassment to foreign service professionals.

      This is a guy who has a packed resume that tells us nothing really. Like those who bought titles in the past, he bought his Ambassadorship and parades around as an Ambassador, using his title -- which is legally acceptable. (But who else does this?)

      He is a AIPAC/JINSA apparatchik working the Israeli PR beat at APCO which works "...to create and implement strategic and tailored solutions designed to advance clients' objectives."

      link to apcoworldwide.com

  • Israel lobbied Serbians in Bosnia to block Palestinians at Security Council
    • It was the decisive vote and Lieberman spent lots of time in Banja Luka to campaign and find allies for the vote. So ironic in a way:

      A city where we saw the complete destruction of churches and mosques. Banja Luka now Sebriska -- completely cleansed of Muslim and Catholic Croats, and Muslim Bosnians who lived together. Locals refer to it as the "Humancide" and not the Genocide.

      Most of the Croats and Muslims driven from their homes, often brutally, were forced by the Serbs to sign documents surrendering all future rights to their property. Those who remained in the area were often taken away to dig trenches or work as unpaid laborers for the Bosnian Serb army. At times they were forced to live in huts along the front lines as human buffers for the Serbian forces.
      link to nytimes.com

  • Germany takes a toy away from the spoiled child
    • marc b., yes it is Germany's fault. Israel doesn't want the advanced submarine and they do not want Germany to help pay for it.

      Isn't all expanded militarism annihilistic?

  • UNESCO votes to admit Palestine as a full member
    • Not only those from Russia, but lots and lots of Israelis moving to Germany. As a group, Jews are currently the fastest growing population in Germany.

  • Minneapolis panel pitting Zionist and anti-Zionist Jews gets no media attention
    • Richard, I would call it a Christian heritage of anti-Judaism. As most of Europe is/was of the Christian culture, that fear and distrust was entrenched in European Christian culture.

      (Just as fear and distrust of the non-Jew. Perhaps enduring? As even today my Jewish friends would be horrified if one of their children married a non-Jew. Yet I cannot imagine any non Jew concerning themselves for one second if their child married a Jew. Why is that? )

      I do not accept the absurd misnomer "Anti-Semitism" for Anti Jewish. Semites are Arabic speaking cultures. Jewish culture is found in many languages.

    • "centuries of suppression.." that is the narrative, but the examined reality has many sides, even sponsorship, support of Jewish communities by kings and rulers. All cloistered groups experienced harsh treatment by neighbors, etc. It is how humans behave to the isolated "other" who may appear different. We are a primitive lot.

      So a thousand years ago some stupid British king banned the Jews organized into communities out of the Island. And then Oliver Cromwell organized a mass immigration of Jews into Britain over 350 years ago as Catholic heads lined the London Bridge.

      All defined groups people can claim a heritage of victim-hood.....it they choose. Persecution is not unique to those of the Jewish religion.

  • Leading progressive magazine gives Palestinian solidarity the Swastika stamp
    • DGB, another question. Why is it that major Synagogues in Washington D.C., for example, (those on Massachusetts Avenue and Old Georgetown Road) often have big banners out front with Zionist messages: stuff like "We stand by Israel, or Protect Israel?"

      Israel declares itself a Zionist Jewish State. Why do prominent Temples have political Zionist banners out front?

      This goy wonders what is the real deal between Zionism and Synagogues when she drives by. Can you explain?

    • DBG, the cartoon is stupid.

      But as you know for decades the non-Jew (and even many Jews) was supposed to believe Judaism = Zionism. That the religion and the national political ideology were one. There are many somewhat uneducated Jews who still think that is so. You know this.

  • Lacking 'legitimacy' in its neighborhood, Israel is imploding -- Sullivan
    • Theo, anything new? No, not really. Yet it was more than just politicians not paying taxes. They were actively stealing from the country and even enabled at it.

      And it is not Swiss bank accounts as Switzerland is no longer the country of choice to hide the cash.

      In fact Cyprus was a haven for stolen money, especially after the fall of Irak. Lots of cash landed there (not in Switzerland) and later into hotels and real estate in the US.

      Check the ownership records of hotels in Cape May, NJ.

    • Theo, "greek politicians would grow large cojones to go after that money.."

      The politicians and other functionaries are the ones who have stolen the money and put it into Singapore, Cyprus, Miami and Zürich. Greece is utterly corrupt at all levels of society. It is a way of life.

  • Breakthrough: 'Ynet' honestly seeks answer to question, How did American Jews get so rich?
    • That strange article seemed to read more self congratulatory in a self absorbed, even racist manner.

      The United States is among the richest countries in the world, making American Jews one of the wealthiest ethnic groups in the universe. Their success story is even more phenomenal considering the speed in which they became rich.

      And filled with cliches:

      Anti-Semitism weakened after World War II and the restrictions on hiring Jews were reduced and later canceled.. The author does not cite the restrictions that were canceled! After all we had a Brandeis and Frankfurter in the Supreme Court at that time.

      And the author continues, The Jewish immigrants, however, emerged from poverty and made faster progress than any other group of immigrants. According to Rockaway, in the 1930s, about 20% of the Jewish men had free professions, double the rate in the entire American population. how could that be that restrictions were in place??

      Then we are treated to more prose out of Der Stürmer with unqualified highlights like: Alongside the Jews, millions of immigrants arrived in the US from Ireland, Italy, China and dozens of other countries. They too have settled down since then, but the Jews succeeded more than everyone.

      And more historical twists of truth from Halpern such as "That was the situation of the Jews abroad, and in America too until the 1960s. The most prestigious universities didn't take in Jewish students, so they studied in colleges and got the best grades. When the discrimination disappeared, the Jews reached the top."

      Geeze Louise...Not to say there was no discrimination, but Jews were receiving and participating in higher education in the Americas from early on. (and good so!) attending Harvard a few years after it opened it's doors. Judah Monis earnings an advance degree in 1720. Yale, a bastion of New England Protestant Christian men's education, saw Jews graduating decades before the first known Catholic (Papist) was ever to attend. (And now has a student body of almost 25% stating they are Jewish.)

      It was a bizarre "breakthrough."

  • Why Palestinian rights are not front and center for OWS meta-brand
    • Why is it that we were were educated to believe that Judaism is Zionism. You know that most Jews were educated to believe they must adopt Zionism to be a modern Jew.

      Can you please cite exact examples of what you have been seeing on this blog that makes you conclude that the word "Zionist" is replacing "Jew" to spew anti Jewish thought?

      There is a lot of nonsense flying around. There always will be. So what? There are lots of strong anti Catholics, irrational and hateful. That is nothing new. Think of the sources. Same for anyone who are anti-Jewish, Anti-Muslim...whatever...

    • DGB, this is strange.....just a few years ago it was not kosher to publicly say that Zionism is not Judaism, that not all Jews are Zionist. I was HARSHLY rebuked more than once and in different settings for saying just that -- not all Jews are Zionist. I was corrected: "To be a Jew is to be a Zionist."

      And now you say "like you’ve people done w/ the word Zionist."

      The narrative now changes. Tell me, it is now correct to say that Zionism has nothing, absolutely nothing with Judaism? Will I be beat up again if I were to say that publicly?

  • Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin promotes a call for Palestinian genocide-- Blumenthal
    • And like most all Journalism, Wikipedia has slowly turned into a failed endeavor. The concept probably noble and true, but Jimmy Wales (who made his millions in the online Porn industry) was not able to control bigger interests determined to promote agendas. Most all original editors are gone, the site is not trusted for real information or a source for anything other than maybe a collection of possible other sources.

      Some of the articles are jokes.

  • David Brooks propagandizes for Netanyahu-- he has no partner for peace
    • Zionist worked hard to get the Evangelical base. That is now falling away as lights are going off.

      The above link is a worthy read.

  • Occupy Wall Street movement is making room for Palestinian issue
    • J. Otto, the Israel industry is not "right" or "left" and never has been. As if it were that simple and stupid.

      I do not know where you get off lecturing nonsense "It was only a few British conservatives, American isolationists, anti-Zionist Jews such as the Elmer Berger, and of course the Arabs themselves that stood in opposition. "

      Practically the entire US State department was firmly against recognition of an Israeli State in Palestine, recognizing it would create an endless conflict in no one's interests. And the costs would be a tremendous injustice and displacement of hundreds of thousands of people. It was that simple.

      Research Truman's fights with State over the issue. Remember that the entire US delegation to the UN almost resigned as they were overrun and undermined by a President who proved to be a Buffoon and way over his head. The US Representative to the UN did resign.

      Those who were deeply against the hasty and disastrous move by US and remained in the State department where then smeared as "Arabists" as the expression took on a new meaning as not a specialist in Semitic language and culture, but an ugly euphemism such as "N i xx er lover. "

    • jimby, I understand your sentiment. There are dangers to attaching OWS to the continued US Gov. support of Palestinian occupation. Potentially confusing issues, giving detractors a long line.

      But the military industry and arming Israel to support a non-productive conflict industry is part of plundering of the public.

      Besides, every movement starts out as "fringe."

      How to start a movement:
      link to youtube.com

  • Americans who support Palestinian cause must be willing to lose friends
    • jaynot, you project and distort RepStones sincere comments. Why? He came to the conclusion that partitions serve no one, are artificial. For Ireland and for I/P.

      The Brits betrayed the Palestinians because they were weak at the time and simply did not care. Not to mention that Zionist terrorism wore them down as the British Empire broke apart. Don't know what you mean by emotional blackmail.

      The crux of his post is simply: t i learned to abandon that which i was indoctrinated/brainwashed with since my birth – tribalism/nationalism/sectarianism.

      The similarities between the long British occupation of all of Ireland (which divided Ireland between the Protestant Loyalist who were sent there from Scotland and England as colonialist settlers at an earlier time) and the ongoing occupation settlement and occupation of Palestine are vast. Read the history and see even the language of politicians parallels.

      The tragic conflict in Ireland did not work out for anyone. Northern Ireland became a liability and is am embarrassment for Britain. It will be the same for Israel's occupation.

      Sometime in the future citizens of all of Ireland may vote to remove artificial borders; and maybe that will happen for Israel/Palestine as well. That all will move beyond the walls of artificial tribalism.

      That is what he argues.

  • 'Neocon' is suddenly a bad career move (and Rachel Abrams ain't helping the Elliott Abrams brand)
    • hopi, you are spewing the canned talking points and defense of the vitriolic and hate-filled indefensible:

      The pathetic talking point will next be "it was only a joke!"

      Here we have your very point -- intended to make all who read appear incapable of comprehension, i.e the stupid ones -- also on Washington Jewish Weekly:

      "While the sentence is a bit unruly and in need of punctuation, it seems to me that Abrams is referring to Shalit's captors. J Street, however, read it differently."

      link to washingtonjewishweek.com

      This is not the first hateful diatribe by Abrams. She should keep on talking.

  • Props for the amazing political space OWS created (but who is talking about Palestine?)
    • DGB, I also find ideologies behind " blut und boden" (blood an soil) reprehensible. It is the ideology of entitlement to land based on ideas of race/ethnicity and myth. That is the basis of Zionism. If you want to label Zionism Nazi, go ahead.

      It has nothing to do with Judaism. And there is no such thing as a "Jewish" state. That would be a Golden Calf.

    • "next year in Jerusalem."

      It is a metaphor for peace. Shared by all.

      Not about ideology of blut und boden.

    • It is of course a leftwing movement

      No. It is very broad and will have an increasingly larger footprint waaaay beyond confining distortions and descriptions as "left" or "right."

      As my somewhat non-political banker friend said to me on the phone as he observed the protests outside of his window the other week in Washington: "I think I will go out and get some exercise and join them." And that he did.

      Americans understand that the system has stolen from them over the last two decades.

      I.e. what other country in the world demands that you have to have debt to get credit? Think about it.

    • Dunno...what does it matter the religion or culture of the many at the top of the the US banking system. So what. It is besides the point. And making an issue of that is a distraction from the real issues. (Not to mention allowing wacked fringe anti Jewish sentiment to lay claim to a legitimate movement. )

      Our system is corrupted by the same forces that corrupt others -- close collusion between a small group of economically powerful and politics. This is what was behind the so-called "Asian Crisis" in the 90's.

      It is what is behind the ongoing destruction of the US economy.

  • More creeping halacha
    • Hey eee,

      What strange words to write.

      Adam is doing something; he is reporting on creeping halacha in New York, or in other words "these things (also) happening in Israel."

      Via a report, he is doing something.

      What are you doing to "stop it" in your home.

  • Endangered Palestinian village gets int'l media attention-- except from the U.S.
  • The US media reports: Gilad Shalit swapped for 1000 non-people (per Blumenthal)
    • This is a very old and empty Hasbara talking point: "just read Hamas’ charter."

      Have you read the racist and bizarre Likud charter?

      Settlements

      The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.

      Self-Rule

      The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.

      The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs. ...

      In other words anything that makes The Zionist State feel afraid is reason to reject anything from the Palestinians.

    • Asherpat,

      You just revealed yourself as a completely brainwashed paranoid supremest . "None! in the event that Israel is overrun, we will all be slaughtered."

      So your solution to this imaginary threat is: Genocide of a people.

  • 'Washington Post' headline: US must reevaluate aid to Israel
    • Nevada,

      In the 1940 and 50's there was a significant fraction of the US Governing Establishment that reasonably argued that it was not at all in the long term interests of the US to build up, let alone arm, a Zionist enterprise in the ME. It was thought to be a disaster. State Department professionals were strongly against it. (Research the Princeton Wilson Center archives) They were snuffed out.

      That so many, so high understood the long term damage to the US (and even to a sustainability of Israel) did not change a thing.

      What do we call it? "When fools rush in?"

      I am pessimistic. Nothing will change until both the US and Israel go off the ledge together. And then it will not matter.

    • DBG, the 3+ billion marked for "aid" to Israel does not count the:

      "For example, the House and the Senate added $129.6 million to the $106.1 million the Obama administration had in the fiscal 2012 budget for these programs. In the 2011 bill, Congress added $205 million for the Iron Dome system, which defends against short-range rockets and mortars. That was on top of $200 million the administration sought for the U.S. contribution to other cooperative missile-defense systems." as Pincus writes.

      Nor does it even begin to touch on all the US tax deductible donations sent to Israeli NGOs every year.

      Whatever we want to call it, billions and billions are sent to Israel by the US tax payer every year, and this has only increased over the last decades.

      Pincus might openly question this because the gig is not good for Israel's long term survival. It will destroy Israel. Just as showering your adult children with money will not help them survive in the world once you are too old and feeble to help your kids.

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