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  • Attacks on Israeli police in East Jerusalem are not terrorism
    • Rima, can we expect a comment from you on Arafatbastard's mention of Jews being ethnically cleansed from parts of Jerusalem in 1948?

      And whilst you are mentioning Jordan's actions, you may want to remind the readers here that before Jordan took over East Jerusalem in 1948 Jews could access the Western Wall and also ascend the Temple Mount without major issues. But when Jordan took brief charge between 1948 and 1967, they banned access to Jews. Thinking that one can rely on Muslims to insure religious freedom is a sad joke.

  • Iftar on the rubble
    • In fact the Loch Ness monster teamed up with the Palestinians 8999 years ago, soon after the first Palestinian grew wings and hair of real gold. And that all happened before lunch. What, you don't believe me?

    • Hebrew = Jews. I know this is hard for you to swallow. But tough. You and your fanatical friends are not going to change the actual history of the city. The Palestinians have zero historical claims to the city. They have never ruled over the city or any part of it, and I am talking about in all of recorded history. And before recorded history, there was no Islam and no Arab people called Palestinians. Ramallah is a great city, so I'm told. Capital of Palestine will be Ramallah.
      And with the focus on Jerusalem and it's history, most people in the world who care about what is really going on and who are ignorant of the history, will soon learn instead of eating up the propaganda being fed to them by you, Abu Adolf Mazen and friends.

    • Earliest mention of the word Jerusalem...

      http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ancient-papyrus-scroll-found-with-earliest-Hebrew-mention-of-Jerusalem-470898

      As Arabs reject the importance of Jerusalem to Jews, which is a disgusting distortion of the truth, hypocrites like Nora should rather use the word Al-Quds to describe where she lives. Every time she uses the word Jerusalem she is in fact giving indirect support to Jewish claims. Thanks Nora.

  • Canada Park, a popular picnicking spot for Israelis, created upon the rubble of Palestinian homes
    • eljay: When you you refer to the single Jewish State being a religion-supremacist construct, are you also referring to all the other Muslim states in the same way? So it's okay for the Muslims but not for the Jews? Or are you laser focused on Jews, which then makes you what exactly?

    • You say that in 1947 Jews held private land of between 6% and 7%. I take your own numbers and throw them back into your face and ask you, "What were the numbers in 1905?".
      What was all the fuss about when the local Arabs ran to the Ottoman overlords and forced a ban of the sale of land to Jews. I know what it was. You still have to learn.
      The Arabs have never accepted that there is a place for an independent Jewish State anywhere in the Middle East. You have yet to understand this. They still have the belief today, as they had during the entire conflict, that the Jews can be driven into the sea. When you talk about "outrageous" actions, you should look at why you give blind support for a people who are not deserving. And when you talk about wounds you should rather be thinking of all the Jews who have been wounded by the violent actions taken by the Arabs.

    • Stop living in the past. Move on already! Park Canada will remain a public park. Take the keys and photo's of the small village with barely 21 people, and bury them deep in the ground. Palestinians made a huge mistake by not accepting the 1947 partition plan. Paying the price for this mistake means moving on. Move on already!

  • Palestinian Authority blocks access to news sites linked to Abbas rivals
  • The Israelis
  • Dispatch from 'the most ****ed up place on Earth,' Hebron's H2 quarter
    • talknic, the term Palestine was one shoved down the throats of those living in the region. The local Arab population never saw themselves as Palestinian. The Muslims saw themselves as belonging to the Caliphate. Plus there was major migration of Arab workers to the area and these same Arabs saw themselves as Syrian, Iraqi, Arabian etc. Everything but not Palestinian. I believe you are the one who is full of it. And one cannot colonize your own home, however much you want this to be the case.

    • talknic: The Ottoman Empire chose to side with Germany and entered the Great War by attacking Russia in 1914. And you say the Ottoman's were attacked and as such had rights in Palestine? The Ottoman Empire ruled over more territory than the Roman Empire. Are you also saying that the Ottomans still have rights over all that territory?

    • talknic: You seem very cocky with your history. You might want to show a little humility?
      The San Remo Conference gave Jews the sole right to settle in all the area west of the Jordan River, including the West Bank and all of Jerusalem. Both houses of congress voted to support this. A few months after San Remo, Churchill chose to ignore the decision made at San Remo and effectively stole 80% of the land away from the Jewish people.

    • talknic, up until the end of WWI, the Ottoman Empire owned and controlled the region called Palestine. And the Arabs in Palestine had no complaints. Life was good and dandy. Did the Ottoman Empire have rights to the land. Of course not. Did the nation of Palestine have rights to the land. Of course not as there was no nation of Palestine, ever. There was no people collective group who called themselves Palestinians. Did not exist. Go check your history. Now the Ottoman's supported the wrong side during WWI and their side fortunately lost. Now go read up about the Balfour Deceleration and even more importantly go and read up about the San Remo Conference. Jews did not colonize anything. Jews have always been in the area you call Palestine. More Jews came home. That's what happened and the Arab s chose violence as a reaction.

    • Misterioso, go and tell all the American Indians that they have no claims to their ancient homelands. Stolen goods/property always remains exactly that. Those who began using force are the Arabs. Israel replies with force and you excuse Arab behavior. An Arab in some village somewhere may have a claim of sorts. The collective group now called Palestinian Arabs, does not.

    • Not forgiving you say? How about those sending of their own kids to be suicide bombers and then celebrating their "achievement"? The Palestinians are mostly responsible for this situation as they rejected the 1947 Partition Plan. Maybe they are not 100% but close.
      Israel has offered plenty to the Palestinians and is an island of stability in the greater region. Israel will never allow Palestinians national aspiration, which openly declare that there is no place for Jews, to ever become a reality. Until those are changed and the majority of Palestinians are prepared to put their lives on the line defending a place for Jews in the same places the Palestinians want exclusively for themselves, then there is nothing to talk about. My reference to your gender has obviously struck a chord and has made you uncomfortable. Get over it.

    • Mooser, fortunately the future of Zionism rests neither in your hands nor mine. And with 70% assimilation rate of secular American Jews, you are a dinosaur in its last breaths causing only damage to Israel's future. You have little to offer the single Jewish State. In fact you would love to see it disbanded and replaced by a state for all its citizens. You obviously and "proudly" do not count yourself among the supporters of Israel and you probably never have. And so you hang around like minded negativity.
      And Annie, why is it that feminists are so extremely anti-Israel but yet so forgiving towards the Arabs who treat their women and gays so badly? Some say that if women ran the world there would be no more wars. Apparently the opposite is closer to the truth?

    • There I was thinking that diamonds are a girls best friend, but no, it appears that gold is the new black. The dome of the rock was black just 50+ years ago. King Hussein of Jordan paid for the covering to be made in gold plate. The addition of the gold is a likened to the kiss of death. Look beyond the gold Annie.

    • Mooser, your time would be better spent trying to convince your Muslim and Arab brothers and sisters that it's time to accept others and to share instead of criticizing my Zionism and more importantly, denying history that supports Jewish claims. It once belonged to Jews. It has been returned to Jews. Now live with this and try to find ways to work together.

    • In the video posted, the older man says in Arabic that because of Mohammad, all the land is his.
      The English subtitles skip this section. It's called selective discreditation.

    • No Annie, you are an "equal opportunity discrediter" only when it comes to Jews, and only Jews who are pro-Israel. You don't have anything to say about Islamic texts and you behave as if the Palestinians are an island in the Islamic world as if Palestinian national aspirations draw no inspiration from Islamic sources. How about some true balance for a change? Not going to happen as your very essence, and your job, depends on it.

    • I am glad you presented a link here to a book who's author used the Hebrew Bible as it's main source. How many times have you discredited the Hebrew Bible in your posts and here you promote the same? Women's prerogative? The more you dig into available resources and sources, the more the Jewish claims are solidified in the minds of the doubters. Palestinian Arabs as a collective identity is barely 50 years old and those on this propaganda pumping website will have you believe that there was a people called Palestinian Arabs way back then, when reality shows otherwise. Of course some Arab in some village somewhere has rights. Put some of these Arabs together and no, they do not have rights over the holiest site for Jews.

    • Ossinev: Sources and archaeology? How about Josephus Flavious for a source and the Second Temple for archaeology. As the Temple no longer stands, what remains are some foundation stones. Based on the foundation stones, which you can see today, you will get an idea of what was built above.

    • Hebron was once an all Jewish city before the Muslim invaders came along. The three forefathers of Jewish people are buried in Hebron. That's Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Muslims also claim connection to the same three, however Islam came into this world 700 years after the Jewish Temple was destroyed on the Temple Mount and long after the three were buried there. Sounds to me that some people want and took what others already had. The non Jewish population of the region at the time were either Bedouin or simple village farmers and had no collective identity outside of the mud huts. Sorry, not all their homes were made of mud. Some were made of stone.

  • Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    • Keith and MHughes: Stating that the American could accurately predict anything at that time is a bit of joke would you not say? Even in recent history they are still making major mistakes. They could not predict Japan attacking Pearl Harbor so why give them any credit? And the same regarding the Arab Spring? Now get real for a second. Norman knows this but tends to ignore it.Israel was 9 miles wide at the time. NINE miles wide. The largest armies every assembled in all of history, had assembled on Israels borders at the time. The largest armies every assembled in the equivalent space that is, in all of history.
      To think that Israeli's were planning their after war party prior to the war is ...? I cannot find the words for this stupidity in thinking.
      Israel had one option to defeat the Arabs and Muslim armies, and that was by a preemptive attack. War was already declared by the blocking of the shipping lanes by Egypt. International Law is not consistent and goes many ways, especially when Israel is mentioned. It's called antisemitism.

    • talknic, in order to get to the truth and work things out for yourself, you need to actively search out information on both extremes. If you limit your knowledge to one side, as you consistently display in the your comments, then don't expect to understand what really went down. Mondoweiss is also a "propaganda" website, is it not?
      Your comments about cross border raids by Israel into Jordan does not give an historical perspective. What else was going on at the time. What raids were being carried out from Jordan into Israel.
      And talknic, please don't forget to mention that prior to 1967 Israel did not have any settlements in the West Bank and Jordan controlled the holy sites. This did not stop the attacks against Jews from happening. So today's story that stopping settlements will bring peace, is a load of bull, and you know it, but not brave enough to say it.

    • MHughes976: What precedent would have given the Israeli's the confidence that victory would be assured. Was it the overwhelming victory in 1948? Well, it could not have been this as there was no such victory for Israel. The Old City in Jerusalem remained in Jordan's hands so it is obvious that Israel did not dominate here. Was it in 1956 in the Suez Campaign? Could not have been that either. Could it have been the years of cross border raids by the Arabs? Could cross border raids give any insight into how a full on war would turn out? I don't think so.
      And as far as Jeremy Bowen, well what more can I say? Jeremy has a proven track record of being unbiased and if Jeremy says so then it must be true. Of course in 1967 they had sophisticated satellite imagery and spies all over the place and intelligence agencies always get things right. Even the report that Sadam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

    • If you got your news from one source, then what do you expect, balance? The belief that impartial reporting exists, and ever existed, is a fools belief. My question to you is, do you know what transpired in the period before the war?
      Try "http://www.sixdaywarproject.org"

    • There I was thinking that if you shoot straight and hit your target, that the object on the receiving end will suffer serious damage. But Finklestein, Keith, and Annie corrected this distortion for me. Many thanks. The fact that the Arab tanks outnumbered Israeli tanks 3 to 1 then had little impact on the war as the Israeli tanks would have survived anyhow. I suppose this is also true about the aircraft. Israel must have been absolutely sure that their planes could not be shot down and its pilots would win every dogfight. And being outnumbered 600 planes to 200 gave the Israeli's loads of confidence even though failure would have meant the end of the Jewish state. So Israel must have been the side that wanted the war. Now I understand.
      Or are you telling me that the Arabs could not shoot straight?

    • Finklestein fails to mention that at the time there was a US arms embargo on Israel. Israel did not win the war based on US weapons. So implying that the US had Israel's back is an out and out distortion (or lie) by Finklestein. The Arab armies greatly outnumbered Israeli forces in planes, tanks and foot soldiers. To imply that Israel was confident in victory can only be driven by an agenda driven hate for Jews and the Jewish State.

  • Once I was lit by moonbeams
    • Some will choose moonbeams. Others will choose populist causes just in order to fit in and all the while ignoring the evil that oozes and has oozed out of the side they have chosen. It's hate and destroying what others have build on the one side, and it's moonbeams on the other. Better to choose moonbeams. Nothings perfect.

  • State Dep't slams Netanyahu's Hitler story as 'inflammatory' and against 'scholarly evidence'
    • Zofia, I understand by your comments that any Jew living in any town, village or farm was/is living in a "settlement". When I mentioned settlements I was talking post 1967 and you quickly confirmed that all settlements are legitimate targets, even those prior to 1967. You want Israel destroyed so go ahead and admit the truth. What you are saying is that Jews do not have a right to live anywhere in the region as an independent people. Right? If you say otherwise then what about Jerusalem? Where Jews in Jerusalem long before Islam was established? At least 1,000 years before in fact. Palestinian Arabs have never controlled Jerusalem. Are you aware of this fact? Do Jews have a greater right over Jerusalem than Muslims? They certainly do. As Jerusalem is not a settlement it would be nice if you supported Jewish claims to the city. You cannot be half pregnant when it comes the connection Jews have to the Temple Mount. They do or they don't. Which one is it?

    • Zofia, I see you and the current Mufti of Jerusalem have been taking the same history lessons. We are talking about the "Mufti of Jerusalem" no less who just confirmed for us that there has always been a mosque on the Temple Mount from the beginning of time. I think you and the Mufti should retake arithmetic 101. If Islam and Arabic came about after the birth of Mohammad, which was 1400 years ago, we have some serious gaps here Zofia. Don't you think?

    • How are you lot ever going to advance from your entrenched positions when you continually avoid answering simple questions e.g. Explain why Palestinian Arabs attacked and murdered Jews long before there were settlements and even the State of Israel? Of course the answer is difficult for those who stubbornly believe that the Palestinian Arabs are the equivalent of Ghandi and Mother Teresa, then we all know the truth but refuse to admit it. Blaming Jews, and not yourself, has been a tried and test practice going back a long, long time. On this website it would be wise to refrain from using "that" word. Those who rush to answer on the killing of Jews going back 120 years should read Mark Twain to understand how little was going in the region before more Jews came home. It was the money that the Jews brought in that created jobs and injected much needed life into the near dead economy of the region at the time under the Ottomans.

    • ||Eljay @ October 24, 2015, 9:16 am||
      It's amazing that you can come out with a statement about accountability when it appears from many of your previous posts that you have zero expectations from the Palestinians and do not hold them accountable for anything they have done. This is called patronizm and it's very racist in fact. What you are saying is that Palestinian Arabs are not responsible for their actions and all because of Jews and of settlements. Never mind that Arab action against Jews began before the creation of the State of Israel.

    • [..] It would be nice for one of you more enlightened ones to comment on why Palestinian Arabs resorted to killing Jews when there was no State of Israel and no settlements. We have been hearing over the past 30 years settlements, settlements, settlements but this does not match Palestinian action prior to the creation of the modern State of Israel. If this is the historic homeland of the Jewish people then surely Jews have/had a right to purchase land? As we know that it is the historic home land of the Jewish people, then denying Jews the ability to purchase land was racist. And what about the Fatwa's banning the sale of land to Jews, punishable by death? Seems to be that you are quite selective in what parts of history fit the struggle.

    • Phil, you need to admit that before Netanyahu's comments you and most of the readers here had not heard of Haj Amin Al-huseini. So maybe Netanyahu's comments were a stroke of genius when we know he was not placating Hitler? There was no State of Israel and no settlements when in 1929 Palestinian Arabs murdered Jews in Hebron and when Al-huseini visited Hitler and ask him to burn the Jews. Man up Phil, you need to admit that settlements have very little to do with what is really happening on the ground and maybe your support for Palestinian Arabs is a little "premature" given their violent and hate filled history?

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