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Zionists always had a hard-on for terrorist acts (real or staged) in the U.S., ostensibly because it somehow validates & vindicates their own MO relative to Palestinians, forgetting that when Muslims "hate" us it is exactly because our support of the Zionist geopolitical experiment (aka "Israel") since 1948 has set us on the collision course with the Arab/Muslim world. Which is PRECISELY the dynamics the Zionists wanted.
They are clearly panicking in the PR department. Call it even, Barbra Streisand! LOL
Why would anyone want to travel to Israel in the first place?
@radii: I expected the same. But it ain't over yet.
Now this is what I call Jewish identity vs. a Zionist one.
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“Jews possess a strong feeling of affinity toward Israel that is an intrinsic part of their Jewish identity." How laughable. The true Jewish identity is decidedly anti-Zionist.
Here's my man Chief Rabbi Beck on the subject:
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Another SNL-grade flick.. LOL!
@Chu: Iran's getting the bomb won't help things. The nuclear disarmament of Israel will.
Look at that racist kid on the bus. Apparently a Sabra - the same Semite genetic stock. If he spoke Arabic he would come across as a Palestinian. When will they realize that they are not different peoples, but essentially the same one? Therein lies the key to the only peaceful solution to all troubles.
Note to Friedman: Not happy in the Upper West Side? There is always Borough Park.
"So you are part of the “peaceful” eliminate Israel and throw out the Jews crowd."
No need to. Zionism will self destruct & in 2-3 generations & Israel will be a bi-national single state incorporating Gaza & the WB. Eventually you will become the same people you used to be 2000 years ago & at long last will leave the rest of the world alone.
Pollard is lucky that he was busted in the U.S. In Russia he would have been executed by a firing squad.
"So now Palestine is everything up to the 1948 boundaries? When did that happen?"
In 1948 it was Palestine, remember? It still is, by the way. You're only temporary guests there.
@ Avi_G: The MO here is to play the persecuted underdog while being in power position pulling all kinds of strings - an especially crafty & hideous ploy.
I know. But therein lies the monstrosity of the affair. It DOES NOT MATTER to a Zionist where he was born, the U.S., Russia, Poland, Austria or Yemen & neither should it to us. What matters is his SOLE allegiance to the Zionist cause. The same goes for Kristol, Perle, Abrams, Wolfowitz, Frum, Feith, Indyk, Ross, Lieberman, and the rest of the evil gang, who, in any other self-respecting power that took its national interests seriously by now would be in leg irons, chained to the wall for grand treason.
As for Stephens/WSJ - the lobby can ill afford to alienate the mainstream media. Wondering if they are overconfident or panicking. Or both.
"Jonathan Pollard, the man who betrayed both his country and his people."
But he did not! He acted on the belief that he served his TRUE country - Israel, while posing as an American - thus the real problem at hand is not the so-called "dual loyalty", but the "single" one.
@Ramzi: A+++
"I, for one, believe in the urgent need to achieve peace through a two-state solution."
There won't be a two-state solution - it's way too late for that. You guys wasted precious time by being too busy anschlussing large portions of the WB. Now you either include Gaza & the WB into a Greater Israel and give Palestinians full Israeli citizenship, or refuse to do so & end up as an international pariah & a despised apartheid state that won't last another 65 years. The 4th largest army & the 200+ nukes under the Negev won't help you. Good thing is that in about two generations Palestinians will be residing in those nifty housing complexes in the WB. Time to wake up n smell the coffee.
"He enables and empowers Israeli self-destruction.."
Right on! Zionism is destined to self-destruct. They think their voracious land grab is the solution to their problems, but in fact they are painting themselves into a corner with eventually a one-state solution as the only option. Ehud Olmert was right on that one.
@ kalithea: watch this retro flick of Wolfie being creamed by my man Norm Finkelstein back in 1989. Just to cheer you up :)
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@Annie: Budapest is awesome! It's the hoi polloi, who, after having been handed the freedom to make something better of themselves, promptly opted for nationalism, xenophobia, crypto-fascism, despising their neighbors (with the exception of Austria, possibly in the spirit of kaiserlich und koniglich nostalgia), & stirring up irredentist sentiments among their minorities in Slovakia & Romania. Arrested development since 1918.
"The timing here is no coincidence. Obama’s presence in Israel, and this so called “chemical weapons” event is carefully choreographed.... Obama has utterly and completely sold out. The man is an embarrassment, a cowardly fraud of epic proportions."
There is really nothing else to say. Amen!
I am part Hungarian, raised in Hungary. Sorry to say, Hungarians are if not the hicks of Europe, but definitely the problem child of Eastern Europe. Not that it has to do anything with us here on MW.
@Stone: What's truly revolting is that our Congress is being purchased with the same money it votes as the annual 3 billion in aid to Israel. A genuinely satanic scheme.
I'm gonna post something when I stop puking & clean up.
"Indeed, they were highly similar to other cultures that were emerging in the region around the same time–except for one thing: whereas archaeologists found pig bones in other sites, they found none among the Israelites. A prohibition on eating pork may have been one of the earliest ways in which the Israelites distinguished themselves from their neighbors."
The late Chris Hitchens in his book "God is Not Great" floats an interesting theory in an attempt to explain the unique prohibition on pork among the ancient Jewish tribes, nonexistent anywhere else in the Middle East - which voids the explanation that pork goes bad faster in hot climate, etc. The apparent tradition of sacrificing their first born male child for God from Abraham/Isaac to Jesus who was framed by his daddy - in tandem with the the fact that pork tastes like human flesh allows for the possibility of cannibalism in ancient times (now, don't get outraged, cuz it existed in other cultures too) , which, when it was abandoned, resulted in giving up pork as well. Something for archeologists & cultural anthropologists to look into, IF they are willing.
@MK: A minor correction: Russians lost 27 million people in only four years, 1941-45. 12 million were civilian casualties, with the rest military. Thus the Russian civilian deaths ALONE were TWICE of the Holocaust Jews. It's only that it never occurred to the Russians to turn their dead into a industry of cultural braggadocio, political extortion, emotional blackmail & PR manipulation.
@traintosiberia: It is a matter of historical record with info galore, mostly in Russian - you can google it from any angle.
@Stone: Ain't that the Gospel truth! (no pun intended LOL). In fact, the perverted, twisted & downright sick marriage of convenience between Israel & the Christian Zionists in the U.S. (of Hagee brand) notwithstanding, note that Christian proselytization among Jews is not allowed, very much in a Saudi fashion - try to preach Jesus in Bethlehem & you'll quickly make some Palestinian friends behind bars.
".. many Palestinians are in fact genealogically descendant from the ancient Jews who wrote and read those texts, and that many Jews are descendants of converts over the centuries, the whole thing becomes absurd."
My sentiments precisely. Amen.
@giladg: that would be "madrassa". "madras" is a lightweight cotton or silk fabric. Other than that, just pinch me! Damn!
@Stephen: a little aside re Gromykos's UN speech: Ben Gurion & Golda Meir (a Kiev native & the first Israeli ambassador to the USSR) successfully bamboozled Stalin into supporting the creation of Israel with promises of the first Socialist state in the Middle East. The Zionists truly left no angle un-played in achieving their goal. By the time the Old Man realized he was had it was too late, & it only resulted in a brief backlash against the Soviet Jews in top positions in 1951-52. In a famously telling episode of the newly awakened & shameless Zionist spirit, Golda Meir was greeted in the Moscow airport by Molotov's wife Polina Zhemchuzhina (Perelman), then the Grand Dame of the Politburo with the phrase in Yiddish: "I am a daughter of Jewish people", making Golda weep with joy. Polina was promptly kicked out of the CPSU, arrested & jailed for years for the reasons of hanging with the Zionist crowd. If only we exercised such vigilance over the wholesale grand treason & wanton surrender to the Zionist interests in this country. Related Q: is there going to be a donkey on Obama's itinerary?
@mondonut: Palestinians who were kicked out of their land 64 years ago have more right to return then those who allegedly left 2000 years ago. Besides, 2000 years ago you were the same people, so if you want to live in peace, be the same people again in one state, with the same citizenship rights. I don't want to hear any more of the "two state solution" garbage.
@Cliff: Apparently it is. Here's a story for you. Some years ago I was refinancing my crib & they sent over an appraiser. He looked around, made notes, etc. & we ended up chatting about real estate, neighborhoods, etc. to kill time. It is being Boston the subject of Brookline vs. Dorchester came up at which point I said something to the effect that Brookline used to be Irish (JFK), & now the Irish moved to parts of Dorchester & the Southie, etc. and the "Jews moved to Brookline". He looked at me funny & his visage froze. He gave me the paperwork & his business card before departing promptly. Sure thing, his last name was Rosenberg or Rosenbaum or something. My point is: if we chatted about Watertown (Armenians), Southie (Irish), or Arlington (Greeks), & had his name been Azarian, Sullivan or Katsabiris, respectively, saying the phrase "the Greeks moved in" or "the Armenians moved in" or "the Irish are in the Southie" would have been perfectly casual. Yet the dude acted as if I was dragging him to a gas chamber. Clearly I said something wrong.
@Oleg: language! Chill, dude... "unhealthy" in the sense of having existed in the chosen state of besieged, culturally & racially superior aliens, holding the gun to the heads of its neighbors for the last 65 years & being on a life support from the U.S. (won't last for another 65, mind you). The simple truth is, artificial geopolitical entities mandated into existence by august international bodies don't survive in the long run in the environment where none of their neighbors wants them, no matter how you rationalize it in your own heads. God-given land? BS! The first choice of the Zionist founding fathers as Uganda, Madagaskar, & even Vietnam, until they figured that they can highjack Judaism for their nationalist & race-breeding purposes. What if the Jews originated 2000 years ago from what is now Palestine? Gypsies originated 2000 years ago from India. Just try to scoop up the 6 million European Romanis & give them a country in the middle of Rajastan. I guarantee there will be a problem with the locals, 2000 years or no 2000 years. The only way to go healthy is to be the same people again (you're both Semites & cousins, remember?), give Palestinians full Israeli/Palestinian (only a matter of semantics) citizenship & leave everybody alone, at long last, cuz the world is getting really sick & tired of the dangerous Zionist antics.
"there are certain things I'm not going to talk about... Everybody knows that if you write certain things you put yourself beyond the pale of certain publications"
A'la Pravda 1937 - Karl Radek, come back, all is forgiven! LOL
Hell, yeah! All thumbs up!
@RoHa: Actually, modern-day Namibia. Not a big deal, just for the record. peace.
@giladg: Just listen to one of your own. here's my Mensch Rabbi Dov Weiss again.
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@Annie: LOL High five!
"linking south africa and israel is purely a propaganda exercise by the arab american lobby"
1. What is "the Arab American lobby", & if there is indeed one, how does it compare to the influence of of AIPAC?
2. Israel linked itself to South Africa throughout the 60s, 70s & 80s, cooperating in the trade, military & intelligence areas, and indeed fashioned the treatment of the Gaza & WB Palestinians as Untermenschen by the South African model of treating blacks.
This smoke-and-mirror show about the two-state solution has clearly ran out of steam, so why would Obama further embarrass himself by pretending that is still viable? The Zionists have been using the issue to play for time & expand settlements. E1 was the last straw. If Obama wants to be remembered as a great statesman instead of a pussy, he should tell Israel to cut the crap & allow for a bi-national one-state solution, incorporating Gaza & the WB, with equal citizenship rights for the anschlussed Palestinians. Call the country whatever you want - it won't matter any more. But this is the only way to render justice to the Palestinian people and satisfy both parties in the spirit of peaceful dismantlement of Israel envisioned by Rabbi Dov Weiss. If the Zionists stick to the status quo, Israel won't last another 65 years in its present form.
That hoodlum Alan Dershowitz ranted against intermarriage in his book some 20 years ago - if a German did the same he's be lynched on the spot. So chalk Alan up.
The irony of Brooks' antics is that the true believer Orthodox following the Torah, be they in Borough Park or Mea Shearim, deny the legitimacy of the Jewish state as an affront to G-d. Here's my man Rabbi Dov Weiss again:
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jon s: Oswald had the least to do with it. Wanna check the Jack Ruby connection instead?
"Discussing 9/11 conspiracy theories on this forum is a violation of section 7 of the comments policy."
Jon s: You doth protest too much. Wait till the JFK 50th anniversary comes up. LOL. It is a matter of historical record that JFK was hellbent on shutting down the Israeli nuclear weapons program in his second term.
Ditto. 9/11 was probably the "happiest day" of Netanyahu's life, to quote Churchill's sentiments about Pearl Harbor, finally paying off his efforts to drag the U.S. into WWII. . 9/11 has finally put the U.S. on a collision track with the Muslim-Arab world with no brakes, which explains why Mossad (which is on the top of everything related to the Middle East) didn't do anything to prevent it.
To which Oren responds: "We do not, Israel does not get involved in internal politics in Israel, err the United States."
The mother of all Freudian slips, man. The Zionist boychiks finally succeeded in morphing the political structures of both countries on the executive & legislative levels to such an extent that Oren reflexively makes no distinction between the two.
Whoa!
My sentiments precisely
Precisely. Except that the parasite entity feels so firmly in control as to be totally shameless in its voracity & eventually will kill its host. When the financial meltdown hits & all of us will eat from dumpsters the parasite will simple move to the next host.
For the time being though it has itself covered everywhere by effectually merging the political mechanisms of the U.S. & the ZGE (Zionist Geopolitical Experiment - as Israel cannot be regarded as a legitimate country) on the executive & legislative level.
I'm so heated, man.. Someone should remind Biden that he's a U.S. Vice President, not an Israeli one, paraphrasing Hagel.
WTF is wrong with Biden?? American Jews wouldn't be safe in the U.S. without Israel?? This is nothing short of public denigration of his own country, the one he's the Vice President of! In a different world he would be called on it to explain himself & apologize. Alas, the Zionization of the political establishment of the United States of Israel is so profound that few will notice. NB: the bigger the over push, the bigger the eventual backlash.
Good going! Looks like the tide is turning, after all.. A++!
On this cheerful note, let me insert Rabbi Dov Weiss here. He's the Mensch!
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Looks like anything related to Israel's standing in the world is rapidly descending into juvenile antics - damn near being a butt of jokes. Is is indicative of Zionism having peaked and soon being on its last legs (nukes or no nukes)? Wondering who will go first - Rolling Stones or Israel... LOL
They won't rest until the humiliate Hagel to the bone & drag him through the mud. Like they would say in the CSI: "it's personal now."
@bob: there were NO pogroms in the Soviet period. In fact, Russian Jews never had it better between 1918 and 1948. The Bolshevik party leadership, the army command, the GPU/NKVD staff was overwhelmingly Jewish by ethnic composition. Moreover, the Commissar death squads under Leo Trotsky (Bronshtein) and Yakov Sverdlov were responsible for wiping out 1.5 million Don Cossacks, family members included in a brief period of 1919-1920, ostensibly as a payback for the pogroms under the Tsarist regime. With their full loyalty to the new rule the Jews were fully emancipated into the Soviet society. There was a temporary backlash based on accusations of "double loyalty" (sounds familiar?) after Ben Gurion & Golda Meir bamboozled Stalin into supporting Israel's bid for statehood in the UN with promises of a Socialist state in the Middle East. But in hindsight who could accuse the Old Man for being naturally alert?
Like I have said before: we need ONE legally sound definition of anti-semitism, instead of Zionists throwing that term around at random at anyone they don't like.
No, he's NOT Russian. His parents probably emigrated from the SU/Russia on the the basis of being Jews (i.e. non-Russians), and, given his age - 20 - he was born in Israel.
@Blank State: Agreed. Most of the Zionist establishment is vitally interested in keeping the anti-semitism alive, it's their bread-and-butter, their whole raison d'être, without it Abe at al would be collecting unemployment. Hence they throw the accusations around at random, hoping something will stick.
Israel a "democratic state" and "a firm US ally?" Well, it's neither. It's a parasitic geopolitical experiment feeding off it's host - the U.S. to such an extreme degree that it may soon kill it - i.e. the money and the political will to babysit & bail Israel out at the UN at every turn will eventually run out.
BTW, to stop the nonsensical accusations of "anti-semitism" there ought to be a public & formal debate as to WHAT constitutes "anti-semitism", establishing & codifying ONE (not as many as Abe wishes) definition.
"..Hagel needs to “prove” that he is not in league with foreign governments." That would be easy. However, for his inquisitors to prove the same would spell disaster.
A++, Phil!
Will it be Abe's "shoot the clown" moment?
Frame of reference: After the Bolshevik takeover the Cheka were merciless in stopping those who opposed the government or spoke against it even in the most casual tones. In March 1918, after the government moved from Petrograd to Moscow, a circus clown was making fun of the Bolsheviks. Cheka agents in the crowd pulled out their guns and shot several people who were laughing. True story, ya'll. DWL!
Foxman:.... "the sketch.. focuses on the issue of Israel to such a ridiculous extreme that we do become concerned because there is a claim out there that America’s a tool of the Israelis.. ...It sort of reinforces the pernicious notion of Jewish control over this government … that Israel controls the Senate.”
OH YOU DON'T SAY, ABE!!! Talking about "overreacting": the old hoodlum exposed himself - the sketch was in no way defamatory to the Jews per se (guarding against which is ostensibly his line of business) - it made fun of U.S. legislators who made another country a priority over their own - with their pro-Israel stance bought by the same taxpayer money thy vote as financial aid to Israel. Can't get more twisted, perverted & sick than that...
The correct term is "Ostjuden", just for the record. Alas, I never understood the concept of "self-hating Jews" that the pie-eyed Zionists keep throwing at clear-minded dissenters like Finkelstein & MJ Rosenberg (G-d bless them!) I tried to fathom it from every angle but it still doesn't make any sense to me.
All he had to do is to say: "As a U.S. Senator and President's nominee for U.S. Secretary of Defense I resent my colleagues' attempts to pressure me into pledging allegiance to another country before my own." On record. That's it. If they axed him for it it would be out there for everyone to see and understand the very nature of this hideous ploy. I mean his life doesn't depend on his job. It would have been a perfect time for "Have you no decency left, Sir?"
I mean, what was the point of humiliating a decorated veteran and an honest public servant? That spineless SOB could have cut down to chase by nominating John Bolton, Richard Pearle, Bill Kristol, Doug Feith or any of the Zionist boychiks. Once in a lifetime chance to reign in the lobby was blown. I'm SO done here.
I'm puking all over the place. Time to move to Canada, really. This country is beyond redemption.
@ pabelmont: Sure, China will do just fine. Israel would cut a deal with Satan himself to keep the Zionist fantasy going. Alas, the influence of the Zionist lobby in Beijing would be minuscule, I reckon.
With Hagel's turncoat act the zionization of the United States of Israel is now complete. How disgusting.
Steve, very true. The accusation of anti-semitism, pushed ad absurdum will lose its weight & ultimately self-destruct. Recommended flick on the subject: "Defamation" by Yoav Shamir. Abe Foxman, who is pulling half a mil in annual salary, among other things, worries about Polish dolls depicting Hasidic Jews. You think Jews are subhumans? You're an anti-semite. You criticize Israel? You're an anti-semite. You don't like gefilte fish? You're an anti-semite. LOL
Nah, Oleg.. [why the Russian name tho?].. having Jewish friends won't help f they want to demonize & destroy you.. even being a Jew won't - just ask Norm Finkelstein
How very juvenile of Goldberg. What's next? Sticking his tongue out at Walt? They are clearly panicking over the Hagel nomination.
As for how to fight hollow accusations of anti-semitism, suing for defamation/libel would do just fine - giving the Abe Foxmans a taste of their own medicine.