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Eva Smagacz

White Knight from Britain.

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  • Which crowded cities can you fire into?
    • All this questions, about Hamas hiding between civilian population, while HaKirya, IDF headquarters are placed right bang in the residential district of Tel Aviv, next to Migdal Shalom tower ("Peace Tower") and Ichilov General Hospital, which, if I recall correctly, had maternity wards and services next to military buildings up to 1998.

  • 'We are moving from Iron Dome to an iron fist': Israel launches ground invasion of Gaza
    • 'Just listened to LtBloodyCol Lerner interviewed again, this stood out (given as a reason for the invasion):
      “Distance the terrorists from our borders”."

      This is why Hamas advises people to stay put: once cleansed (moved) they may never be allowed back : the story of Zionism from day one.

  • As we sat down to break the fast, everything in the house started smashing and flying
    • Well you are either a troll are you really are trying to show us the depth of the cynicism that Zionists can reach.
      What are you trying to do?
      Are you trying to turn Mondoweiss into cyberspace Versailles and yourself into French Queen Mary Antoinette, who, so the legend tells us, when she heard that people in Paris and around France have no bread and are starving, responded, with a question "Why will they not eat cakes?"
      Her words, so the legend says, started a riot that turned into French Revolution and ended up with her, her entire royal family, and most of her aristocratic peers, (who considered themselves to be superior (dare I say chosen?) to the common man) being killed on the guillotine.

  • Terrifying tweets of pre-Army Israeli teens
    • Hopmi, you said "All the more reason they shouldn’t be lobbing missiles into Israeli civilian areas."

      You are aware, are you not, that IDF headquarters are in the middle of Tel Aviv residential district?

      If you don't want resistance to shoot in general direction of your army posts, allow them some guided missiles, to improve their aim.

    • Hopmi,

      These tweets you posted show writers revulsion with Jews - what they do not show, is Palestinians calling for wholesale death of Jews.

      And if it were to be found, don't worry, MEMRI would have found it long ago, and have it plastered on front pages of each and every USA broadsheet.

      Your only point seems to be that people don't see the difference between Jews and Zionists. Understandable, as Zionists use every propaganda trick up their sleeve to conflate the two.

  • Video: Diane Sawyer misrepresents photo of Gazans in aftermath of Israeli bombing as Israeli victims of Palestinian missiles (Updated)
  • White House says US can't stop 'tsunami' of boycott and isolation if Israel won't end 'occupations'
    • I am pretty sure that before they gave Philip Gordon the speech to make Administration, and he, knew that he's in for some heavy long term punishment on the career front. I wonder what made him accept the assignment. Is he Jewish? "Liberal" Zionist? That would explain the emotional commitment needed to make such potentially self-sacrificing speech.

  • SodaStream launches 'mixologist' competition as brand sags
    • "@ DaBakr Uh huh. And how will they get to work from the West Bank?"

      talknic, talknic, talknic, he was not thinking of bonded labour - you see it will be replaced by another bonded labour. He was talking of real people, people who matter, J-positive blood people (sarcasm) who are of correct ethnic-religious category when he was thinking of those poor souls loosing out on work in the industrial park plant.

    • "BDS would constitute illegal discrimination against a nationality"

      I wonder how would you enforce it without giving up on a basic tenet of capitalism which is competition. I would not buy sewage contaminated vegetable for example, and I could argue that the products and services I don't want to use smell to me of a moral decay and I have a gagging reflex I cannot control.

  • In life and death, some are more equal than others at the 'NYT'
    • Right after they went missing there were two pictures floating on the net of an oldest settler: one of him with a weapon, and the second in military uniform. I haven't seen them since the first day or so: maybe the gag order meant that they cannot be reprinted?

  • Israeli army enacts curfew near Nablus and raids eight major West Bank cities
  • Missing!
    • You do know that those FIVE ARAB armies counter attacked Jewish militia turned Israeli Army ethnic cleansing Palestinians OUTSIDE the boarders Israel itself professed to have in its Declaration of Independence?

  • Pardon our interruption
    • Ok, if somebody was to email me the date of that meal at Tanoreen, I could arrange the holiday and buy the ticket for the flight in advance. I could also collect the Gaza kitchen book in person. How cool would that be?

  • Local activists welcome Gates Foundation divestment of all shares from G4S
    • G4S is re-thinking its activities in Israel.

      This from Financial Times:

      G4S has confirmed that it will end all its Israeli prison contracts within the next three years after an annual general meeting that was severely disrupted by human rights protesters.
      Asked by angry protesters whether G4S would withdraw from the Palestinian territories as reported by the Financial Times last year, Ashley Almanza, chief executive, confirmed “no change to that position”.

      “We expect them to expire and we don’t expect to renew them,” he said.
      These include contracts to provide security and screening equipment at military checkpoints, the controversial Ofer prison and a police station in the West Bank, all of which are expected to expire next year.

      But Mr Almanza said for the first time that the move would also include prison service contracts all over Israel.

      Whole article: link to ft.com

  • Chris Matthews and David Corn defend Israel against 'slander' of apartheid
    • I absolutely love the ad!

      To have words apartheid and Israel in the same hard hitting ad is a major victory. It will make people question more. It is at such prominent spot, as well. Lets have more ads mentioning apartheid, war crimes, occupation and BDS in the same breath as Israel in the prominent spots on major mass media all paid by pro-Zionist crowd.

      Its jiu-jitsu at its best.

  • Boston subway ads are shocking-- 'and so is the reality on the ground'
  • No Jews allowed
    • Off topic: No Jews were allowed in Warsaw as soon as ghetto was completed. This haunting song is called "My Warsaw, will I ever see you again" it is sung in first person by a young woman that sneaked out of ghetto in search of food.

  • Palestinian unity deal pits Netanyahu & Congress against White House
    • Well, in Northern Ireland, IRA split into " IRA " which cooperated with Unionists to end bloodbath in Northern Ireland, and " real IRA " which considered the former to be traitors to the cause.

  • Palestinian citizens of Israel protest draft in Tel Aviv as passersby tell them to die or emigrate
    • Oh give it a rest. It's not always and at every turn about Jews. This idea that world and it's dog obsesses about Jews is a form of communal personality disorder.
      It's the Occupation, stupid.
      You sound like my aunt. She is a narcissist, too

  • 'Violence of Jewish power' in Jerusalem has 'poisoned the Jewish community' -- 'Forward' reports
    • Palikari, for Jerusalem residents, applying for citizenship of Israel, would be complicit in breaking international law, colluding in illegal Israeli Occupation of Holly City, and collaborating with apartheid. You don't ask for much, do you?

  • Israelis and Americans are ho-hum about Palestinian children's deaths
    • jon s,
      Nobody normal "likes" to read graphic descriptions of the murder of ANY children by terrorists, Jewish or otherwise.
      But we write about it, and read about it, to give homage to their young lives, and give us courage and impetus to strive for justice and peace.

  • Commencement meltdown-- students are wisely rejecting elite authority
  • Circular logic: Israel agrees not to discriminate against Palestinian-American travelers -- not that it ever did
    • Pabelmont,
      From my experience, if someone does not want to do something, no amount of extra bureaucratic steps will lift them from their sullen passive-aggressivity.

  • 'We are not second class citizens, we are fifth class citizens': Interview with Educational Bookshop owner Mahmoud Muna
    • Palikari,

      So he should accept Israeli citizenship, help with the whitewash of Nakba, help Israel in its illegal annexation of Jerusalem ( which is legally corpus separatum, remember?), and trade his position from being fifth class citizen to being forth class citizen?

  • When a wedding party is a form of resistance
  • Kerry's Last Ditch Effort
    • World according to hopmi:

      "Because Syrians are dying you must not pay attention to Palestinians.
      If Syrians were not dying, you must not pay attention to Palestinians because.... because..... Igbos are killed in Nigeria, women get raped in Africa and journalists are jailed in Turkey.... .
      In fact, please pay attention anywhere but don't pay attention to Palestinians.

    • "The old dead-people-don’t-matter-unless-Americans-give-money excuse".

      You are just apologising for an Israel like a pro.
      From Jews sans Frontieres:

      The case for Israel is made of four propositions that should always be presented in the correct escalating order.

      We rock
      They suck
      You suck
      Everything sucks

      That's it. Now you know everything that it took me a lifetime to learn. The rest is details; filling in the dotted lines.

      You begin by saying how great Israel is. Israel want peace; Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; the desert blooms; kibutz; Israelis invented antibiotics, the wheel, the E minor scale; thanks to the occupation Palestinians no longer live in caves; Israel liberates Arab women; Israel has the most moral army in the world, etc.

      This will win over 50% of your listeners immediately. Don't worry about the factual content. This is about brand identity, not writing a PhD. Do you really think BP is 'beyond petroleum'?

      Then you go into the second point: They suck. Here you talk about the legal system of Saudi Arabia, gay rights in Iran, slave trade in the Sudan, Mohammad Atta, the burqa, Palestinians dancing after 9/11, Arafat's facial hair, etc.

      There is only one additional principle you need to understand here. It will separate you from the amateurs. You need to know your audience. If you've got a crowd already disposed to racist logic, go for it with everything you have. But if you get a liberal crowd, you need to sugar coat the racism a bit. Focus on women rights, human rights, religious tolerance, "clash of civilizations", terrorism, they teach their children to hate, etc. Deep down your audience WANTS to enjoy racism and feel superior. They just need the proper encouragement so they can keep their sophisticated self-image. Give them what they crave and they'll adore you! But be careful not to 'mix n match,' because it will cost you credibility.

      When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

      You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc. The more the merrier. By the time you end this barrage, only a handful would be left standing. For mopping them up, you use the ultimate postmodern wisdom: Everything sucks.

      War, genocide, racism, oppression are everywhere. From the Roma in Italy to the Native-Americans in the U.S., the weak are victimized. Why pick on Israel? It's the way of the world. Look! Right is only in question between equals in power; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Ethics, schmethics. Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Eat, drink! Carpe diem! The Palestinians would throw us into the sea if they could. Ha ha!

      Trust me, that's as far as words can go. If you followed this method faithfully, you've done your work. You should leave the few who are still unconvinced to the forces of order.

      Congratulations!
      You are now ready to
      apologize for Israel like a pro.

  • When Yitzhak Rabin met Marek Edelman: A story for Holocaust Remembrance Day
  • Friedman says Iran's friends include BDS and Jews in Open Hillel movement
    • Hi Annie, I loved that sentence as well and thought it hilarious;
      "My hands made me steal, your honour" type of defence.

      The answer to this, is of course Matthew 18:8

      "And if thy hand or thy foot causeth thee to stumble, cut it off, and cast it from thee: it is good for thee to enter into life maimed or halt, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into the eternal fire."

  • 'NYT' readers who objected to calling Abbas 'defiant' have a point, public editor rules
    • Pabelmont,

      "the danger of peace has receded" is such a perfect quote, encapsulating the zeitgeist in Israel just now, that I went for a hunt for a reference, and can't find anything but a secondary source. I emailed Adam Keller, and hope he will give me specifics.

  • Both Sides: Anti-BDS concerns on campus vs. life in the occupied territories
  • 'I'm reminded of Jackson, MS, closing all public pools rather than integrating them' -- Franke on Barnard's Banner-gate
    • Powerful arguments.

      Pity they do not inflame your sense of justice when Palestinians in particular, Arabs in general and Islam in its entirely are slated as terrorists, barbarians and bloodthirsty fiends.

      Then, with a shoe on the other foot so to speak, ethnic tension, this delicate flower of Jewish sensibilities, is somehow in a rude health and you are not so upset.

  • NY Times should apologize for publishing Palestinians 'have avowed as their goal the killing of all Jews'
    • Shuki,

      Is suffering of an individual Palestinian completely laughable in comparison to a suffering of an individual Jew? Because I am not sure what you are finding laughable in the suffering of either.

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  • Ohio State Hillel member calls Desmond Tutu a 'neo Nazi' for criticizing Israel
  • Tony Benn, who said there is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber
    • One of the greatest achievements of hasbara is to make it a given or a "truth universally acknowledged" that the suicide bombers are a moral abomination, rather than people willing to give their lives for the cause they believe in.

      I always try to make the similar point to that of Tony Benn, but instead of stealth bombers, I consider the case of young Jewish-Israeli ladies on the outskirts of Sderot, killing Palestinian civilians in a macabre computer game in between making their nails, and fixing their hair in anticipation of a night out in Tel Aviv.

  • Why I didn’t make it to Gaza for International Women’s Day
  • 'NYT' piece on Israel coexistence singer leaves out his latest gig: AIPAC
    • A background on Shufat Refugee Camp:

      link to 972mag.com

      Shuafat is the only refugee camp within Jerusalem’s municipal territory. Thus, those who live there are Israeli residents who carry blue Israeli IDs and have freedom of movement and occupation within Jerusalem and Israel. At the same time, the Israeli government has erected a giant cement wall that completely encircles the camp, turning it into a secluded island. Furthermore, the government has closed all the access roads that lead in and out of the camp and erected a checkpoint at the main entrance, forcing every resident to pass through it while entering or exiting.

      link to wrmea.org

      While, on the one hand, Shu'fat camp is being excluded and cut off from the city, Israeli authorities remain keen to flex their muscles in demonstrations of authority. One such example was a large-scale raid in February that went on for days, carried out by hundreds of police officers, border forces and municipal officials. Over the course of the operation, dozens of Palestinians (as many as 90, according to UNRWA) were detained, on charges including non-payment of taxes and stone-throwing. Local estimates were that of all those picked up during the first evening, all but one was under 18 years old. Salim Anati described how a cousin was in a shop buying chicken when soldiers came by, saw him, and took him. "For two days, the family didn't know his whereabouts," Salim said. "Then he was accused of throwing stones, and his family had to pay NIS 3,000 for his release." For Salim, the raid was all about "wanting to show that they are the main power and can do what they want."

  • A model factory for a colonialism in trouble: the SodaStream saga revisited
    • But for BDS you have a problem, the whole point of RoR in Israel proper rather than in the West Bank is to force Israeli Jews to live under a government they despise.

      If ( potentially, possibly) forcing Israeli Jews to live under a government they despise is wrong, do you agree that forcing Palestinian Arabs (as is hard reality on the ground) to live under a government they despise is equally wrong?

      Because unless you think that Palestinian Arabs are less deserving than Israeli Jews, it seems to me that you have just criticised Zionist occupation of Palestine.

  • Dateline, Ukraine: How the State Department 'midwives' democracy
    • Victoria Nuland is Sherwin Nuland's daughter from his first, very troubled marriage. He was quite ill during her formative years, and I can only assume that her mother's influence on her dominated her early adolescence. So although he was, by all accounts, a deeply ethical and moral person, this probably did not rub off on his daughter.

    • Bandolero,

      I absolutely agree with your perspective. The crisis and regime changes create fantastic investment opportunities for those who are ready to pounce. Notice how interconnected russian oligarchs are, who, but one, are eligible for Israeli citizenship, and how countries with cashflow problems are forced by international financial institutions to sell their national assets at fire sale prices. This creates a class of people who cannot spent what they earn, so they keep buying and increasing their capital - creating permanent underclass and superclass of citizen. This is not an antisemitic remark about global Jewish conspiracy, by the way. It is a statement of fact as it applies to countries that fall under the neoconservative bus.

  • Pelosi calls Israel's creation 'the most spectacular political achievement of the 20th century'
    • so JeffB, you agree that helping the oppressed and brutalized is commendable work?

      Only if those oppressed and brutalized chose their mother carefully enough. The rest of the world, lacking J Positive blood, is fair game.

  • Call to prayer in Hebron was forbidden 49 times in a month because it annoyed settlers
    • Is there equal opportunity for senses? Or is the sense of hearing getting priority?
      If I were find my sight assaulted by the view of jarmulka or a rekel and streimer should my sensitivities be also catered for? Or would that be antisemitic?

      It is like moving to the countryside and complaining about cockerels and smell of manure, or moving to Brooklyn and complaining of jazgot of yiddish, and too many children - you move into the area and then have gall to tell the locals that they are annoying you (or in case of Zionists, you move to obliterate the culture and religion of the natives)

  • Gaza boy in coma after being shot in head with teargas canister at demonstration
    • ( sarcasm alert) Oh, you need to check again: isn't hasbara telling us over and over again that Israel has nothing to do with Gaza and left it completely? So how comes people demonstrating IN GAZA encounter Israeli Army?

      Or have they, God forbid, been lying to us all this time? (/sarcasm off)

  • Video: AIPAC Policy Conference 2014
    • More than ever it brings home the fact that when the PalArabs screw up their end of this Kerry initiative, they’re going to be in a world of hurt. And nobody important is going to give a sweet f&%k.

      Please wipe the poison of your fangs.

  • EU Prez Martin Schulz wreaks havoc during speech at Knesset
    • "I havent checked the data......"

      I love this line - everybody who hears this story is positively compelled to hit internet trail, and read, and watch videos, to check the data for themselves.

      Master stroke.

  • Water struggles continue in Gaza under the blockade
    • UpSIDEdown,

      You are welcome - nice to have you join discussions.

      I was so outraged by the article, that I wrote a parody/satire of Zionist hasbara.
      And you are right, people who use these arguments for real are racists and sadists.

      God will have me squirm about many of my sins, but ignoring the suffering is not one of them.

    • Well, they are still breeding, don't they? Obviously, there is nothing wrong with what Israel is doing as their numbers keep going up. You are an Anti-Semite if you say so. Its Pals own fault. They can always leave by the Rafah crossing. Nobody is stopping them. If they didn't breed like vermin there would be more water to go round. They have all those excess males, that threaten new Holocaust. Can you see how dirty they are? Don't blame Israelis for their primitivity. Israel is a light to the nations and invented Intel. It's Hamas's fault. If Hamas were to commit communal Harakiri, the Gaza would turn overnight into second Singapore. And what monster of a mother gives a child contaminated water? Especially if she knows that this water causes cancer, liver problems, renal failure, high blood pressure, diarrhea, and hepatitis. Surely its better not to give your child water than give contaminated water. EVERYBODY KNOWS that Jerusalem is Israel's eternal capital and that Pals do not love children the way Israelis do. And don't even start me on unemployment. Instead of breeding they should all start looking for a job. There is always job for those who REALLY want it. (/outrage off)

  • Letter from Al Aqaba on the 'Rebuilding to Remain' campaign
  • France to perform CPR on Scarlett Johansson's image -- award for film career!
    • Message:

      You sell your soul to Devil ( or Mammon), you prosper.

      Just watch out for unintended consequences........

  • Here’s how Sadeq can get married
    • Some of the prices are on par with the European prices. It sure pays for Israelis to have a captive market.
      Donated.

  • Fearless authors dance on third rail of US politics...
    • Alas, this hard hitting piece with excellent headline was published in INTERNATIONAL version of NYTimes.
      It's a pattern with pieces criticising Israel. They never reach US audience.

  • Scarlett Johansson not only abandons Oxfam but throws it under the bus
    • I do not see anything bad coming from lots of PR that implies that Oxfam is pro-BDS. Anything that makes link between Israel, illegal settlements and BDS is good publicity, as far as I am concerned.
      There must be a tipping point that makes sane person ask - why are all these institutions anti-illegal Israel settlements and pro-BDS?

      This was Obama's long term strategy, remember? To undermine the hegemony of Israel Lobby (or as they call it, in anti-semitic manner, in Israel - a Jewish Lobby) by exposing illegal settlements and their corrosive influence on the "peace process".

  • Vote at the Guardian: Should Oxfam sever ties with Scarlett Johansson?
  • 'NYT' publishes Holocaust trivia on front page
    • MHughes,

      I really do not get irksome about purely religious beliefs, having few, highly irrational ones, myself. And I do find development of various theologies fascinating.

      It is spillover of irrationality of religious beliefs into social (and political) milieu, with dire consequences for real folk, that raises my hackles.

    • Thank you, Daniel,

      What a moving story and one that touched my heart.

      It resonates with a story my great aunt told me. In my great aunt's apartment there was a pair of doors (due to the thickness of the wall) between two rooms, with a space in between where weapons were hidden, and the handles were rigged to move together. Once, during "kociol", with Germans searching the building, one of my mother's cousins hid in there. They did not find him then, but he died in Auschwitz not long afterwards.

      Thank you for sharing that memory.

    • "The Holocaust is something different. (...) nearly successful attempt on the life of God’s chosen children and, thus, on God himself."

      Shorter:
      Holocaust is nearly successful attempt ( attempt on the life) on God himself.

      So there you have it. It was attempted deocide! And it was nearly successful but for rebirth of "chosen". So we have new, growing, Deus - presumably split in body between Florida and Israel.

      Certifiable delusions of grandeur, anyone?

      What proportion of people believe this step up on the concept of "chosen?"

    • German Lefty,

      I think Dickerson is saying that the relation between the this particular Holocaust "book" and a book (or a memorial) is the same as the relation between "pet rock" and a pet.

      A joke. With someone making money from it. And thousands thinking - if only I could market something like that and make millions.

    • When I studied in Poland the figure of Jewish deaths taught was 5.4 million - I assume Russian researchers had access to Ukrainian figures and 5.4 million included these.

    • The reason why you put your time and money into remembrance of Jews exclusively is repellent, hopmi.

    • I guess my relatives in Auschwitz were just chopped liver, not worthy of mention. You know, even saying Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy, Goy ..........(how many millions???!!!) is just too much waste of time for Chernofsky.

      How the hell is this different from being treated like subhumans by Nazis and other Aryan supremacists?

  • 'I will not uproot a single Israeli' settler, Netanyahu says, and Washington Post backs him up
    • phacepalm,

      Abbas authority is not based on his presidency of PA, which expired, but on his Presidency of PLO, which has not.

      Hostage has wealth of information on this issue:

      * The PA is a defunct organ and Oslo has lapsed. It's up to the PLO to establish the new form of government and a date for any elections. You keep blathering about expired PA terms and elections.
      * In the meantime, the PLO Executive, not the defunct PA, has the authority to conduct foreign relations, appoint ambassadors, establish governments in Palestine, and remove them. Abbas is its President. I've given you links to the 1988 Declaration on the Establishment of the Provisional Government of Palestine which establishes that beyond any doubt.
      * I've explained there are no fixed term limits for the posts in the PLO and that the 2003 basic law adopted by the PA legislative council said the source of the PA's legitimacy was the fact that the PLO is the sole representative of the Palestinian people wherever they exist, and that the PA had been established under the leadership and authority of the PLO.

      * The Oslo Accords explicitly prohibited the PA from conducting its own foreign relations and left the PLO in charge in that area.

  • Scarlett and Oxfam chat over Palestinian land loss
    • I am sooooo printing that graphic and sending it to:

      Supporter Relations, Oxfam GB, Oxfam House, John Smith Drive, Oxford, OX4 2JY

  • Ignoring Human Rights Watch report, NYT suggests 15-year-old goaded Israeli soldiers who killed him
    • "Social ostracism can be a very powerful tool. Until you walk in his shoes, do not condemn him"

      Goldberg had power and standing to make life and death difference - as in preventing loss of life of many Palestinians.
      He chose to sell out on his principles, damage his own standing in wider society and virtually get finished academically and politically, because of social ostracism? What, they would not let him join in family banter about 5000 year-old superiority of Jews over Gentiles? He would be turned down for dinners with Abe Foxman and membership of a temple with Israel flags raised above the ark, higher than ten commandments ? Family would not let him see his nephew grow to be grand tribal loyalist (aka racist supremacist) rather than principled humanitarian?
      Oh what cruel deprivations!
      Makes you wonder if he fondly considers that blood of children killed in Gaza in years after Cast Lead was worth it being considered member of the Reich - sorry race -sorry tribe.
      I do condemn him. It is telling that you do not.

  • While you were neutral about Yarmouk
  • Far-right politician calls for moment of silence for Sharon at European Parliament. Parliament says 'no'
    • Cult of Stalin, cult of Mao, cult of Arik.
      When I was little, each morning we started school with a communal, recited "prayer" to our nation - praising the ( then ) Socialist Republic of Poland and leadership of Soviet Russia.

  • Scarlett Johansson for SodaStream: 'Set the bubbles free' but keep the Palestinians bottled in Area A
    • Defence of Israeli crimes with whataboutery.

      Try whataboutery on another crime: Let's not protect women in lower Manhattan from rape, because worse rapes happen in Congo.

  • El Al airlines promotes tourism in occupied territories
    • Oleg, the glee with which you used argument about that kid that lost his hand and his eyes is revolting. You steal the land and there is nothing, nothing, that you will not use to score the points to deflect the criticism.

      This boy's fate does not excuse or explain ethnic cleansing and theft of Golan Heights.

  • John Kerry's framework proposal sets the stage for the ‘Gazafication’ of the West Bank
  • EU official threatens funding to PA, saying Israel should pay for its occupation
    • The removal of salaries would shake up West Bank, no question. Would Palestinian Police cooperate with Occupying Forces in keeping the peace? Or would Israel have to, like during Intifadas, call out reserves to keep natives quiet?

      Palestinians in West Bank are not as corralled as Palestinians in Gaza. Keeping them quiet on a diet of 1056 calories and 3 hours of electricity a day may not be so easy. And strives of pro-Palestinian movement mean that any unrest will be difficult to be sold to the world and even USA as terrorism.

      On the other hand, the move can trigger the action of concentrating Palestinians to 2-3 bantustans from currently unmanageable 167.

  • African asylum-seekers march to Jerusalem to protest detention, violently arrested [Video]
    • jon s,

      "Wadi Gaza, known as Nahal HaBesor, originates near Sde Boker, not Hebron Hills"

      Wadi Besor has a largest catchment area (Besor Basin) of the whole of Mediterranean. It has two areas of origin, so it's waters originate both near Sde Boker and in the South Hebron Hills,( then taking the course through Arad and Be'er Sheva ), before joining common watercourse southeast of Gaza.

      And do I actually believe that Israel intentionally caused the flooding in Gaza?
      Yes, absolutely. I believe that Israel intentionally caused flooding in Gaza, to prevent the damage to its sophisticated hydrological infrastructure, which is, at great expense, designed to retain the water in Israeli mid-basin and not, God forbid, replenish Gaza Aquifer. But with unpredictable (and possibly larger than-normal) volumes of water brought with storm Alexa, Israel opened all the dams letting the water to go directly to Gaza, which had no infrastructure to deal with the deluge which spilled the sewage mixed with rainwater into the build up areas.

      Israel then magnanimously lent Gaza 4 water pumps.

    • Mondonut, Wadi Gaza, the watercourse that in winter brings water from Hebron Hills to replenish Gaza Aquifer, is dammed in number of places and water kept back in Israel.

      With storm Alexa, Israel opened all the dams.

  • After attending Mandela's memorial, Knesset member's blood rejected in gov't drive because she is African
    • Including or excluding donations is done by calculating risk through examining epidemiological data. This is then translated into easy to implement rules by further sharpening of the criteria. Whenether risk is difficult to quantify, the rule is to decide on the side of caution.

      Having said that, different ethnic groups have often distinct antigens ( minor blood groups) on their blood cells, and therefore when you have patients with atypical antibodies it can be quite difficult to find them a suitable blood donor - and that donor is invariably found within the same ethnic group.

      So it would be prudent for Israeli Blood Transfusion Service to have donations representative of all sections of it's society.

  • 'NYT' and Wash Post won't tell us why Dems are hurting Obama on Iran deal
    • "Many people on both the right and the left object to Iran being in a pre-nuclear state. Their feeling is that Iran is a uniquely dangerous country (...)"

      The Iran is a uniquely dangerous country in Middle East in the same way as incorruptible and effective law enforcement is uniquely dangerous to Italian Mafia. They threaten hegemony of USA and it's allies and might introduce a more balanced distribution of regional power.

  • Obama and Kerry drop talk of Palestinian state for 'state institutions' and 'transition'
    • Thank you, seafoid.

      This is so appropriate. I am really scared for future of Palestinians. Stunted growth and malnutrition in Gaza. The same to follow in West Bank buntustans. What is the next logical step after ghettos?

  • Help send Netanyahu to the Mandela memorial!
  • While we’re on the topic . . . Settler normativity and American football
  • The Siege of the Tel Aviv bus station
    • Additionally, the birth "note" must not contain immigrant woman's married name - only her maiden name, thus obliterating any connection with a father.

  • AIPAC plays the long game on new Iran sanctions
    • Hopefully,
      UK, China and Russia AIPACs will not get similar legislation through their respective legislators.

  • 'The new Zionism': Nefesh B'Nefesh urges young American Jews to leave 'exile' for the Negev
    • yrn,

      Did you just write this?

      "Hostage
      You are quite an ignorant for someone that spread cut and paste here all over."

      In your Universe, Golda Meir was a ravishing beauty, Avigdor Lieberman has principles and you are an intellectual. How did you cross over to our one?

  • Medical heroes arrive in Gaza, no fanfare, no NBC
    • All medical treatments of Palestinians in Occupied Palestinian territories and Gaza are paid for by current Palestinian Government or NGOs. Not so long ago there was a story of a small girl Lin Hassan who was refused chemotherapy to treat cancer of the kidney by an Israeli hospital Kaplan. Hospital refused the treatment as Palestinian Government did not pay for her previous round of treatment. But the money belonging to Palestinian Authority was sequestrated by Israel as a punishment for Palestine approaching United Nations.

      So no hard cash - no treatment.

      Position of Palestinians in East Jerusalem is more complicated, with patchwork of cover and non cover.

  • 'Economist' says lobby is trying to kill Iran talks, Roger Cohen says it's France
  • Richard Cohen's racist ABC's: Arab culture, biracial children, Chirlane McCray's sexuality
    • Traintosiberia,

      Propose you change your choice of living fossil. Replace Blattaria with Coelacanth Latimeria chalumnae, for example. That way your argument ( mostly - Blattaria is said to be able to survive a nuclear winter, not something anyone had tested Coelacanthiformes for) stands, and the knee jerk reaction of Anti-Semitism is avoided.

      You know - Judaism and cockroaches in the same sentence - "must" be anti-Semitism, Judaism and coelacanth in the same sentence - who knows, people may even read understand your argument about culture being like a living fossil without knee jerk reaction ( and yes, this is aimed squarely at you, MJRosenburg )

  • New report proves Yasser Arafat was most likely assassinated through polonium poisoning
    • The accomplice of Israelis could just as well been a victim of Israelis himself.
      Israelis extract co-operation from Palestinians as a payment for permit to access the life saving treatments. I wonder if any of men around Arafat had sick relative they really cared about. Maybe a child that became sick with puzzling symptoms few weeks/months before Arafat himself? That child/relative should be checked for plutonium poisoning. Any of men around Arafat died in a suspicious circumstances?

      And what exactly stops Israel from poisoning another leader?

  • Whatever happened to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process?
  • Pat Boone sells tiny plots of Israeli land to Christian Zionists
  • Infographic: Where the law stands on Israel's separation barrier
    • Walid, this is what Hostage said on 14/07/13 about this very issue :

      "While a moral victory, the ICJ issued no more than an advisory opinion as it has no jurisdiction in the case."

      Correction: Certain advisory opinions are legally binding. That includes any dispute over the interpretation of an international agreement that contains a compromissory clause granting the ICJ jurisdiction. The General Assembly request for the Advisory Opinion cited UN GA resolution 181(II) as one of the relevant UN resolutions and asked what are the legal consequences flowing from the applicable international laws, treaties, and UN resolutions?

      Resolution 181(II) does contain a) an international agreement which placed human rights in Palestine under UN guarantees; and b) granted the ICJ compulsory jurisdiction to settle any disputes, unless the parties agreed to some other method.

      The UN considers the minority rights declarations it has obtained after WWII to be legally binding agreements that are still in force. Resolution 181(II) was cataloged in 1950 as part of a survey of legal instruments containing minority protection treaties E/CN.4/367, Date: 7 April 1950 (see Chapter III The United Nations Charter And The Treaties Concluded After The War, resolution 181(II) of 29 November 1947, “The Future Government of Palestine”, pages 22-23).

      The Advisory Opinion was also endorsed by an Emergency special Session of the General Assembly convened under the auspices of a “Uniting for Peace” resolution. So it’s legally binding on all UN organs and officials.

  • My first post-Snowden moment
  • This Halloween, do the SodaStream Smash
    • Didn't save the link, it was in Forbes, I believe, but Soda Stream have missed their sales targets and is reporting "difficult trading conditions".

      Good.

  • Adelson's atomic moment: Help us break more video stories
  • Rehavam Ze'evi and the discourse of expelling Palestinians
    • Accepting partition is a very fancy turn of phrase to describe receiving stolen goods ( land in this case ). I will accept partition of your wife's jewellery any time you like.

  • Adelson says Obama should fire 'atomic weapon' at Iran, not negotiate
    • I read many comments in huffingtonpost and was struck how very few ( virtually none) commenters made a connection between Adelson and Israel.

      Plenty of comments about his age, hair, casinos and influence on GOP, but nothing about links to Netanyahu government.

      I made several comments, and all comments with anything relating to Israel went to moderation. All comment without the alarming words (like Israel, IDF, Netanyahu) were allowed to stand.

  • MJ Rosenberg owes Ali Abunimah an apology for false accusations of anti-Semitism
    • "AlGhorear, you said:
      MJ referred to Ali’s use of the word “invader” in one of his tweets. Maybe that was the button. MJ truly sees Israel as belonging to the Jews."

      Surely two are not mutually exclusive, except for a Zionist. What was a takeover of Palestine by waves, and waves of immigrating Jews if not an invasion - in every sense of the word. (try imagining following scenario in central London:

      In 1974 there were 56,000 Muslims living among 715,000 English.
      In 1982 there were 83,000 Muslims living among 663,000 English.
      In 1996 there were 385,400Muslims living among 983,200 English.
      In 2000 there were 467,000 Muslims living among 1,050,000 English
      In 2006 there were 600,000 Muslim living among 1,300,000 English.

      Now imagine that those Muslims would have their own militia and terror campaign........ would refuse to speak English, trade with English and accept English culture and traditions ....... I challenge any Zionist not to call those Muslims as invading London and turning it to Londonistan .

      So I guess MJ really does not accept the word "invader" when it comes to influx of Jews to Palestine. To accept the word "invader" is to let go of the idea of right of return for Jews ( which they passed to their heirs and descendants ). In my opinion MJ believes that Jews re-conquered Holy Land and returned it to it's rightful owners.

      But the accusations of Anti-Semitism are so wild these days, and so irrational, it may be a waste of time to try to understand them. If your words and actions are called Anti-Semitism by a Zionist, you are probably on a safe ground. If your actions are called Anti-Semitism by a anti, or post-Zionist, of a Jew that is oblivious to Israel, then it is truly worth examining your conscience.

  • What Comes Next: If the goal is to change U.S. policy, American Jewish opinion can't be ignored
    • The continuous low level provocation in West Bank and East Jerusalem is designed to start third intifada and give Israel a pretext to cleanse those areas of Palestinians. Naither Jordan nor Syria are in position to prevent refugees, and Arab Spring in Jordan will likely give representation to Palestinians there and provide welcome relief to Zionist conscience.
      The drums of ethnic cleansing are growing ever louder.

  • And now for something completely different
    • "Now that you mention Monty Python .
      The I/P conflict does remind me of this scene."

      Funny, for me the Israel's stand against BDS and delegitimisation springs to mind.

      Shall we compare the notes in five years' time?

    • Keep on swiping!!!!!
      Then the pictures change. (At least on iphone)

  • What Comes Next: A secular democratic state in historic Palestine - a promising land
    • “Paying the Palestinians to leave is not as crazy as it sounds at first.”

      But why pay Palestinians? Why not pay Jews as well? start with the people who spent least time on the Palestinian soil, as their price should be cheapest, and their roots shallowest.

      Surely you would want the greatest bang for your bucks.

  • 'WSJ' books editor says he's thrown out Blumenthal book on Israel
    • Fnlevit,

      From your knowledge of Russian propaganda techniques, can I take it that you are born and bred Russian? With, presumably, more right to the land than generations of local Palestinian farmers, due to your superior status in the eyes of (your) God?

  • The young flee Israel because it is a 'failure' and 'xenophobic theocracy' -- 'Haaretz' columnist
    • "Eva you care to prove that bullshit claim".

      Well Sherlock, in the hospitals world over, the lower your status as a medic, the worse and more antisocial hours shifts you get. So unless you can prove to me that Israeli hospitals promote Arab Israeli doctors at the same rate as Jewish Israeli doctors, then Arab doctors do get all the sh**ty shifts.

      And this even without racism being factored in. Promotion prospects of coloured medical staff are stifled in UK, and I deduct, a la Conan Doyle, that it's worse in Israel.

      But, I am willing to be pleasantly surprised. If you can show me that Arab medics prospects in Israel are equal or exceeding than of their Jewish colleagues, and / or time rotas from any 3 months from any two Israeli hospitals that does not give night/weekend shifts to Arabs over and above their representative numbers on the staff, I will give £1000,- to your favourite charity offering daily practical help to Holocaust survivors. I will publish the receipt in Mondoweiss, if Phil will agree.

      Deal?

    • Doctors, Arab citizen of Israel, are given all the antisocial hours and shifts that Jewish doctors can't be arsed to do. Hence preponderance of Arab doctors at nights on duty in Israeli hospitals.

  • Jews turn away from Judaism, Jewishly
    • Ludwig,
      Trashing/disagreeing/mocking someone's religion is always a case of free speech.

      Anti-Semitism ( and any other form of racism) is about people and denying them full humanity. They are cancer, they try to breed with "our" women and steal our oxes, they are part of conspiracy, they are dirty, they are degenerate, they are lower species, etc....

    • Ludwig,

      What line does it cross? It obviously offended your religious sensibilities, but it would help if you explained.

  • Corey Robin calls on American Jews to reflect on their 'power and status' and deep differences with Israeli Jews
    • Citizen,
      I think German history can be repeated anywhere - such is the human nature. ( and Jews can see it happening in Israel to Palestinians and in America and Europe to Muslims and Gypsies). It does not mean that Jews will be the victims in future, they may well be passive bystanders ( as with Gypsies) or active perpetrators ( as with Palestinians) or enthusiastic cheerleaders ( as with Muslims).

      Only constant, and vocal, vigilance by people of conscience will prevent such descent: fight for the freedom of the press, fight for equal human rights - including right to vote, and fight for rights of minorities, as well as fight for right to privacy and to political dissent. This, in my view, is what makes mankind civilised.

  • Columbus Day reflection
    • Debt is interest generating product, and makes the world go round.

      Debt is never really paid off. It is rolled over and over, printing money forever for those with capital ( so that they can buy and hold more capital), and for those who administer the scheme, living off fees for arranging the debt.

      If debt was paid off, bankers would starve and fat capitalists would have to live of fat of their own land.

  • The face of young Israel: Palestinians shouldn't be in the Knesset, or in relationships with Jews
    • OlegR:
      "Oh the inevitable Nazi comparison.
      Yawn."

      I know, it must be getting boring by now, we all know it was true from beginning, so why drag it out again and again.
      It must be so draining. We should just accept it and let Jewish Israelis lead their lives with all the consequences as to where they will lead.

      And then, in future, the whinging people will be boring the world with some silly ideas about the railway lines to Ab-al-Ashwits in West Bank that could have been bombed....

  • Palestinian women seeking to exercise in neighboring Israeli town are told to get lost
    • I assume that Kochav Yair has walkways without potholes ( we know that local authority money are much more generous in Jewish neighbourhood) , communal greenery maintained with water that community can purchase without restriction (unlike non-Jewish neighbourhoods), street lighting (see potholes).

      If you want to jog or walk for exercise, choosing well lit, surrounded by greenery walkways without the potholes is a no-brainer.

  • Does the passing of time affect the rights of the displaced to return?: Palestinian claims for reparation in international context
    • There is also Zionist way of dealing with restitution:
      To arrive, after hundreds or thousands of years, with an ethnic army and via rape, murder and pillage drive the population out, shooting at anybody who thinks they have any rights as "secondary occupants (of mere couple of millennia)".

      I keep having dreams, as a daughter of Adam and Eve of Bible fame, of being able to clear garden of Eden of secondary occupants and regains my rightful title to the place. I even managed, in principle, to obtains services of reputable mercenary army but their terms are really steep.

      (/sarcasm off)

  • Since 1967 Israel has razed over 800,000 Palestinian olive trees, the equivalent to destroying Central Park 33 times over
  • Israel refuses to recognize its own nationality: Israeli Supreme Court says 'Israeli' nationality could endanger idea of Jewish state
    • "Saudi Arabia only allows Muslims". What a worthy fellowship for Israel to belong to! ( I wouldn't consider this to be an argument that raises Israel's stock in the eyes of a western reader)

    • One Arab Supreme Court Judge (out of thirteen). In the last 65 years. Wow that's equality of opportunity in Israel right here in full view.

  • Netanyahu says Palestinians must recognize 'the Jewish state' for peace (and then says even that isn't enough)
    • Yes Woody. The wheel of history has turned a ful circle.

    • libra,
      What I read that Mike Konrad is saying, is that if Israel will be forced to accept the ROR of Palestinians, they, Zionist Jewish Israelis, will deal with the problem internally, reducing the democratic Palestinian threat with some contraption ( gas chambers followed by ovens can do this successfully on an industrial scale, some nuclear devices are also helpful) that will turn Palestinians into fumes/smoke.

      So if you work towards RoR the (evaporated) blood of murdered Palestinians refugees is on your hands.

  • The media's double standard on child victims of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
    • I read she is out of the hospital.
      What are these parents doing, taking kids on a project to colonize Occupied Palestinian Territories? Especially in a place full of Jewish militia, armed to the teeth. It's like taking a toddler to an armed robbery with you.

  • Indyk tells US Jews to press 'your Israeli family' before two-state deal ends and 'downward spiral' begins
    • I think that one year may refer to the changes in American public opinion, and the acceptance of position that Israel and not Palestinians are the baddies and that apartheid exists in Israel and in Occupied Territories. It takes only 10 percent of population to become convinced about something before that something enters "everybody knows" territory.

      If 10 percent of Americans were to be convinced that there Zionist Israel is a parasite body that is milking average american's tax money for its use without as much as thank you, then this becomes common knowledge. If 10 percent of Americans were to accept that Israel is practicing apartheid, then it will become an accepted wisdom.

      This will also be a day when it will become safe for politicians to voice these ideas without being run out of town.

      10%. Its not that far - just read the comments after some of the articles in the media (and contemplate how many of them don't allow comments)

  • At liberal forum in D.C., Israeli pols obfuscate their country's nukes
    • Ludvig,

      Yes but Iran is developing nuclear weapons. That goes beyond enrichment.

      Apart from relentless hasbara meme reverberating around the western media from pro-Israel pundits, do you have anything else, like…… facts to support that claim?

    • fnlevit,

      The major fear is that MAD will not work against Iran. They are not what you call rational government.

      Apart from relentless hasbara meme reverberating around the western media from pro-Israel pundits, do you have anything else, like...... facts to support that claim?

  • Netanyahu's tale of Iranian deception debunked by British diplomat
    • " Iran is actually making uranium enrichment, trying to get to weapon graded levels"

      Rubbish.
      Uranium enrichment to the level Iran is enriching does not mean it must be destined as a fuel for a nuclear weapon - nuclear weapons need lots more enrichment.

      What Iran is producing can be used as a material to produce fuel rods for nuclear reactors - including those that produce isotopes for nuclear medicine: investigations and radiotherapy.

      It also must be remembered, that Iran tried to a) purchase fuel rods, and b) exchange it's enriched stocks for fuel rods, without success ( Guess who scuppered the deal).

  • 'Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your fears': More predictions before Netanyahu's big day at the UN
  • A honeymoon apart
    • Fnlevit,
      Your argument how Palestinians in Gaza are responsible for their own troubles is as compelling as saying that raped women ask for it, Germans were not responsible for hunger in Jewish Ghettos during second world war, and Afghanistan widows don't deserve sympathy because they did not pray hard enough to keep their husbands safe.

      Raped woman should have welcomed sex, making it fun, Jews should have made friends with locals and Red Cross for the previous millennium, and not sponge from German Military Authority, and Afghan women...........

      Remind me again why Gaza cannot trade with the world using maritime route?

  • Violence works-- by ending complacency
    • Mahane:
      You asked: "How do you describe an act in which a Palestinian enters bus in Tel-Aviv, blows himself and kills 15 people including children?"
      Chillingly cruel, and incredibly courageous military action on the enemy territory.
      As opposite to an act in which some Jewish maiden on outskirts of Sderot presses a button on a keyboard, in between doing her nails, and drone, in Gaza, blows the house and kills several people, including children, which is merely chillingly cruel.

  • The Russia-Syria deal: What it means and what now?
    • Syria is immensely important for Rusia. It's the only place they can repair their warships - without a place to dock, they would have to go back to Black Sea for every tool and every screw, nut and bolt, negociating both Bosphorus Straits and Dardanelles Straits each time.

      It is remarkable how lucky Obama is: The war is avoided ( unlike others, I believe that Obama hated the idea and did what he could to jeopardize it) , he appears hawkish, and the Israel Lobby is flushed out from the shadows for all Americans to see.

      Would love to be the fly on the wall when Putin and Obama talk without witnesses! Maybe community organising IS a useful skill for politician, after all.

  • Pelosi begs Democrats for cooperation on Syria, but serious concerns remain
    • Obsidian,

      Hezbollah are the reason Lebanon is not occupied like West Bank, and Israel does not suck the water from Litani river "to make the dessert bloom". The only reason they are in Syria is because they smell danger for Lebanon from foreign paid intervention to destabilise entire area.

  • Mondoweiss partners with TinyPass for Fall drive -- $5 a reader
  • Israel's dancing soldiers
    • Same colonel Kemp who, in the article (since removed) in JPost spoke of IDF as "we"?!! He is often trotted out as an impartial source.

  • Stopping Sara from falling in love with Sammy in Qalandia
    • With the subordinate status of a woman in past centuries, it was taken for granted that a woman will convert upon marriage (hell, one of the main arguments about not giving women votes in Europe was that they will vote as their husbands and fathers anyway, so what's the point).
      So marrying non-Muslim the woman was (and is - in the more conservative societies that don't imagine women's autonomy) considered to be put under impossible pressure of having to rescind her faith or at very least forced to raise her own children in her husband faith.

  • A note from Roger Waters to Abe Foxman
  • Rising swell of voices warns against Syrian attack, citing Iraq and Iran concerns
    • Jon, have you just used holocaust card? in passing? In a post about Syria and people dying from gas attacks? is it really about your tribe and only about your tribe?

  • Do's and don'ts for progressives discussing Syria
    • James,
      Iran has a right to do this enshrined in the international law, which it respects. It wishes to have this right recognized - as a sovereign nation. It also knows that this uranium is the only lever it has against combined open hostility of Israel-Saudi-American axis. (and see what happened to Iraq and Libia when they gave up)

    • So, why did Iran enrich more uranium to 20% than was needed to produce fuel for Tehran reactor for, say, next 10 years? Huge PR blunder.

      I think this is your answer Blumberg.com June 2013

      "Iran is ready to suspend enrichment of uranium to 20 percent, a key demand of world powers at talks over its disputed nuclear program, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.
      In return, the Persian Gulf nation must be offered “weighty reciprocal steps,” including a gradual lifting of unilateral and United Nations sanctions, Lavrov said in an interview with the Kuwaiti news service Kuna posted today on the Foreign Ministry’s website."

  • Bacevich in 'LA Times': Camp David ushered in 4 decades of US militarism in Mid East
    • If Israel wanted to demonstrate its commitment to peace, it would not steal Sinai from Egipt in the first place. Don't coach the return of stolen property in terms of Israel's benevolent generosity. It's bul***t and propaganda.

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