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Eva Smagacz

White Knight from Britain.

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  • Elie Wiesel is Dead
    • It's funny, but it really isn't - half a dozen of lies, repeated endlessly with help of the media - and a disastrous outcome for entire country.

  • Israel-splaining
  • Question for the Israeli left: Why do you discount the possibility of a second Nakba?
    • I absolutely agree that the question of genocide is not if but WHEN, and the form it will take: massacres versus population transfer.
      The fever pitch hate and self justification of Israel's Jewish population is such, that it can happen at any moment, and with the stirrings of bad blood between Lebanon and Israel that is being reported, the current government may choose a point in time that suits their internal politics and they are convinced that nothing and nobody is willing or able to stop it.

      Can you see one of the more bloodthirsty ministers in Israeli government saying something along the lines:

      "Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command – and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

      He will speak of Amalekites, and of Arabs, and will call death-head formation "special, dedicated IDF forces", but anyone who thinks it is not possible, let alone likely, has not been paying attention.

    • When you are writing of a

      "Just try to imagine a worst case scenario, and you’ll quickly realize it is not that hard to do, and that this worst case scenario is actually not so unlikely. Not unlikely enough. Imagine a frustrated Palestinian, fed up with it all, planning some terrible attack against Israeli civilians"

      you are really talking of catalyzing event, that speeds up long, ongoing removal of Palestinians from their land:

      ... Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolunionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor. ...

      And we all know, there is list as long as one's arm where Israel manufactures catalyzing events: from Lavon affair in 1954 to "looking for 3 kidnapped Israelis" in 2014 (while knowing full well they are dead) to soften public for assault Protective Edge on Gaza.

  • Netanyahu agonistes
    • You are right, of course.

      The undoing of the fundamental injustice of Nakba by allowing Palestinian refugees back is not on agenda of ANY significant left wing group in Israel.

  • Palestinians in North America: Our rent to pay
    • Palestinians in America are a tiny fraction of the population of displaced Palestinians.
      Most of Palestinians who were displaced did not get absorbed into the countries where their refugee camps are.
      If you want a motivation for this, read today's reaction of countries receiving refugee about absorbing large populations with different language, culture and religion into their mist.
      In addition, ANY Arab country that would absorb Palestinian population would, in reality, help and bear expense of the Jewish Israeli Supremacist project of ethnic cleansing.

  • 'Politico' dares to publish Ehrenreich saying occupation fosters terrorism, and 'Camera' goes haywire
    • It seems that Arabs in the first paragraph are Arab elite, like Hashemites or Sauds, and Arabs in the third paragraph are Arab masses revolting against joint occupation of their lands by British and French and aristocratic Arab collaborators.

  • 'Conquerors of Jerusalem’: March celebrates Israeli occupation with messianic fervor
    • Yonah:
      "Eva- the upshot: Helen thomas: go back to where you came from"
      You wilfully misconstrued my comment.
      What is stopping Zionists from creating new territorial demands based on their history and the bible? Why be satisfied with little, overcrowded Israel?
      Babylonian lands? Tick
      Yemen? Tick
      Lithuania? Tick
      Spain? Tick
      Et cetera, et cetera

      Give Israeli population enoug of Kahane treatment and we can look forward to Nakbas in other places.

    • I wonder what will happen if one day they will decide that Jews used to live in Lithuania and in Poland, and in Spain for that matter.
      Well, they lived there for hundreds of years and these are also the land of the old .......

      I already read that Israel is overcrowded, so maybe return to Egypt and Babylonia?

      If you think I am joking, think again - there is NO limit to fervent patriot-nationalistic hysteria

  • NY state senator wants to cut off university funds to SJP
    • They are hoping to create legislation faster then it can be challenged.

      It will be a bit like Whack-a-Mole game:

      Every time you knock something down as unconstitutional legislation will pop up somewhere else created by dishonest politician.

  • The List: Cuomo's anti-BDS executive order is a first amendment nightmare
  • Thank you, Chief Rabbi. Now I know: Judaism is to blame for the Nakba
    • Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,

      11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

      12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

      13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

      Wonder how long before those settlers who take Torah literally, will build a wee dungeons in their properties for their beautiful women captives where they are kept with shaved heads..... All according to God's will, of course (/sarcasm off).

      But hey, once you are tired of her, all is not lost, because dungeon is reusable and there is no clear prohibition to have more than one captive at the time:

      Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      "And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not deal with her as a slave, because thou hast humbled her."

    • Gamal, l love your cockney Imam!

    • I think that one interpretation, supported by Talmud, by some important Chabad Rabbi, was that non-Jewish rest of humanity is not "fully" human.....

  • The war over the meaning of the Holocaust between Netanyahu and General Golan
    • "But Mr Netanyahu you have no strategy at all. You need to stop this madness. However this ends, We are going to have to live with the Palestinians. You are slowly but surely making that impossible"

      General Golan does not understand that there is no civilised limit to Romantic Nationalism.
      He is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians" because he is an unimaginative freier (./sarcasm)

      Who exactily is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians"?. The whole political point IS to make it impossible. General Golan does not give Mr. Netanyahu brownie points for having a very clever strategy to build up, make acceptable and then harvest "madness".

      If Mr. Golan learned a little bit about Netanyahu senior, he would know that Palestinans and Jews (his word - he did not say Israelis) are like two goats facing each other on a narrow bridge, he would know that Mr. Netahyahu Junior's world view does not include accommodating Palestinians. Faced with paranoid mob in a national romantic stupor Palestinians can jump, and they can drown .

      The means are really not that important - the end result is: that they will no longer be on a bridge.

      According to Standen and Genocide Watch:

      DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres. The perpetrators of genocide (...) They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims. They block investigations of the crimes, and continue to govern until driven from power by force.

      Netanyahu is already practicing for the eight stage.

  • Chabon calls occupation 'the most grievous injustice I have ever seen in my life' and says he is 'culpable'
    • Hopmi, you said:

      "fighting a land conflict where the rhetoric was about one group replacing another in order to reverse history"

      Please could you explain what history are Jews reversing by colonising Palestinian land? Can you offer ANY historical evidence that Jews actually left Palestine ( except individually, voluntarily, to travel, to proselytise and to trade?) ?

    • Dan, you wrote:
      "The near constant use of Nazi parallels used in much of the criticism of Israel, while perhaps technically relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions, is alien, almost always off-putting and ultimately counterproductive in terms of Palestine solidarity"

      There is nothing " perhaps" or "technically" relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions. The blood curdling reality is that there are screamingly obvious Nazi parallels with reference to Israel policies and actions (and not only military!!!!). The progressive nazification of Jewish - Israeli society, unless somehow interrupted, requires more and more extreme attitudes towards non - Jews, and Palestinians in particular.

      You are right that most atrocious crimes, described in detail, are almost always off-putting. But have you noticed that it is rarely considered counterproductive to describe precipitous loss of personal freedoms and militarisation of police in USA in terms of rise of fascism?

      Why would describing Israeli domestic politics in terms of fascism ( or nazism) was any different?

  • 'Forward' columnist and Emily's List leader relate 'gigantic,' 'shocking' role of Jewish Democratic donors
    • I would be so grateful for a definition of Anti-semitism, how does it differs from racism, and why discussing facts can be offensive to anybody (they can be discomforted by facts, but that surely is another matter ).

    • Hopmi,

      You are again using Holocaust to make emotional deflection of serious argument.

      James was making a comment about Germans and Israelis

      "Zionist Israel’s “government” and “army” continue to use some of the very same tactics in occupying what remains of Palestine that were used by the Nazis against the Jews in the 1930s and 1940s"

      And you are deflecting using Holocaust no less. May I point out to you that as history repeats itself, and ordinary people are well capable of war crimes, the occupying power that behaves like Nazis may well progress to genocidal acts of Nazis.

      Nobody argues that Israel IS currently killing Palestinians at the rate of 100000 a month - this is your deflection from the argument.

      The argument is that psychological trajectory of both societies: Israel's and German's is frighteningly similar.

  • Note to Progressive Jews: The right of return is not the 'i'm-doing-you-a-favor' of return
    • Here you are, Yonah:

      "Palestinian requests for conversion rejected outright, official saysRabbi heading government’s Conversion Authority says any such applications are thrown out without even being considered"

      link to

    • hopmi,
      I don't see injustice or bigotry in idea that Jews may consider demanding their right to return to countries where their ancestors came from if the situation in Palestine were to become unstable or dangerous.
      If you allow that "right of return for Palestinians refugees is a legitimate position", surely it follows that Jews have the same right?

    • It's worth mentioning that in Israel, Palestinians are refused conversion to Judaism by definition - they cannot even initiate conversion process.

    • Hello Dona,

      Thank you so much for such thoughtful writing about the right of return.
      I am finding myself in the similar bind as many of your post Zionist friends.

      When anybody floats for idea that Ashkenazi Jews should be returning back to Europe, I automatically bristle.

      My country, Poland, has for many centuries been a host country to Jews - Some came from Germany, Some came from Russia and presumably before that, from Khazaria.
      In many small towns, villages and other population areas 25% of the population there consisted of Jews; speaking their language, having their own laws, own justice systems, own communities. They were dressing in a distinctive clothes, and were having very little interaction with the rest of the population.

      For centuries Poland was multicultural melting pot not unlike London or Brussels. Many people from many cultures were entitled to call it home.

      But then came Second World War and for three generations now Poland has been completely homogenous, 98% Catholic, uniformly white, caucasian population.

      If Israel were to face the Algerian situation ( a suitcase or a coffin choice given by natives to the colonists), and they were made to leave, many of them would be entitled to go back to Poland, from where their ancestors came from.

      I am not happy about it. I would never argue that they are not entitled to come back, but I would find it very very difficult to feel comfortable about it.

      And there is room in Poland for several million Jews, and there are synagogues still standing, kept restored by public purse....

      But would I be pleased about immigration of Israelis to Poland? No, I wouldn't.

      My sense of fairness and justice says one thing, but my gut says something completely different.

      But then nobody promised us that doing the right thing will be easy.

  • Here are 6 incidents of Islamophobia on campus in the last week
    • I propose ringing each graffiti with chalked stars of David. The plaza will be pristinely scrubbed within hours, lest graffiti hurts feelings of Jewish students, free speech be damned

  • Introducing Mondoweiss In Print: 'The World the Settlers Made'
    • Tried to buy the book, using Chrome on iPhone 6S Plus. When I pressed "Checkout" it took me to the blank page and I have to clear cookies and restart Chrome to recover the use of browser.

  • BDS Victory: Ahava moving factory out of occupied West Bank
    • Recently in Dubai (!) I found Dead Sea (spa) Magic brand of cosmetics which are produced by innocuously sounding Finders International LTD ( operating from England and run by Richard Czik. I bet you he does not purchase his Dead Sea Minerals in Jordan.

  • The occupation is over, isn't it?
  • Documentary feature 'Killing Gaza' needs your help
    • Donation made.
      Part of genocidal project is denial and blaming of victims.
      Counteracting denials is essential.

  • Jews aren't special
    • "Yup, that culture disappeared like a carton of Dannon Yogurt hit by the buckshot from a 12 gauge!"

      The remaining splatter is called "Israeli-Hebrew culture":

      Phil Weiss: More on the lousy public sculpture in Israel and its colonies

      link to

  • Video: Scenes from a bloody Sunday in Palestine
  • Barriers to love in Israel and Palestine
    • One caveat about marrying in Catholic Church: the non-catholic partner must agree that the children will be raised in catholic faith.

      Going back to Gaza: the whole idea is to separate Gaza population from the rest of the Palestinian population, and to weaken the solidarity and unity of Palestinians.

      One more point:
      I do not believe that Israeli-Palestinian citizens can marry citizens of any other country if they (spouse) is of Palestinian descent AND bring that spouse to Israel.
      Can anybody confirm/clarify this?

  • Palestinians call on Oscar nominees to reject Israel propaganda trip
  • Israeli designer eroticizes the Palestinian keffiyeh
    • Sickening and predictable. Many Jewish Israelis know so little about Palestinians and their connection to land that they cannot empathise with them on any level, and it appears that those who know, don't care a jot

  • Park Slope Food Coop puts up firewall against boycott of Israeli goods
    • is worth $36000.
      Guess not much value in ethno-nationalism since the second world war.

    • I give it three - four years maximum before pro BDS crowd will command 75% of votes in any progressive organisation.

      So, in Park Slope Food Coop in Brooklyn pro-Israel interested partieswon a battle, and generated the interest in the issue in otherwise PEP or DHACAP (Don't Have a Clue About Palestine) members of the collective, which ultimately will help them to loose a war.

  • Among the settlers
  • Another Netanyahu lie exposed: Hamas is not ISIS
  • The sons of Sa'ir
    • "the Zionist project is an occupation. no amount of “jewish connection” will change that. besides “jewish connection” is a modern excuse for colonialism."

      Annie, I understand, and I did not say "Zionist connection"; but there are Jews in Palestine who are second, third, fourth and fifth generation, and they are connected to Palestine by birth if not by anything else.

      They don't speak Polish, or Lithuanian, and believe me, they would not be any more welcome to those countries than Syrian refugees are.

    • Always thought of this scene when people cannot comprehend "terrorism" of Palestinians and it's origins, or origin of "terrorism" of Poles under 2 centuries long occupation of Germans and Russians:

      link to

    • I know that some Palestinians see all of the Zionist project as an occupation. But many understand Jews connection to Palestine. What they don't understand, and neither do I, why Jews connection to Palestine must be expressed by subjugation of natives.

  • Why are American pro-Palestinian voices silent about the brutal war on Yemen?
    • I am struggling with very issue you are raising.
      But in response let me make few points :

      Morally, we are of use to a victim of injustice only if we have something to give, to offer. We have to choose our struggles or we will dilute ourselves to the point of being inconsequential. It's a little bit like if you will come across a battered woman and you will open your home and your heart to her and work with her to rebuild her life, but hearing then about other battered women you cannot then spread yourself thin and try to do the same for all women in the entire neighbourhood. It is very likely that nobody will have a chance to rebuild their lives.

      Practically, I am only one voice. If I can learn as much as possible on the subject, I can be a voice in an argument, a voice that some people are taking seriously. I don't claim to be an expert Palestinian conflict, but my knowledge is certainly more deep and detailed than on other conflicts in the region, and I can put forward convincing arguments, and support them with sources.

      Finally, there is a historical perspective, and historical liability. Zionism found a fertile ground between my kin and my compatriots, cohabitants of my country, citizens of my nation: Jewish Poles and Polish Jews.

  • My one word interrogation at Ben Gurion airport
    • Kathleen, I think Chomsky has global audience, and Seymour Hersh could write about Gaza to wide non-Jewish audiences.

      I think that for as long as Mondoweiss are perceived as writing mainly for Jewish audience, it's writers will be tolerated, when they will break into the mainstream, the gloves will come off.

      Norman Finkelstein expressed admiration for Hezbollah fearless resistance against Zionist occupation (he did not say he agreed with Hezbollah) - that was, I suspect, the reason for his 10 year ban.

  • New Jersey teenager threatened with legal action by high school over pro-Palestine activism (Update)
    • Thank you for another perspective on the incident. Without that insight, my view of it would have been less objective.

    • I must say, that I have a lot of positive feelings towards parents of Bethany.....
      You do not become so courageous, so aware, so able to feel other people's suffering, and so able to put oneself in other people's shoes unless you have a family background that that promotes your sense of fairness and justice, and equally very strong sense of self, and self-worth that allowed Bethany to stand her ground.

  • Suddenly, comparing Jewish state to ISIS is OK
    • Rowan, it's reasonable request, but it is unlikely that many of us would even realise that the media we posted are self starting and self repeating. An email/note to author/mondoweiss staff will be appreciated.

    • Very true - ISIS burns people to death using petrol, JSIL uses petrol and white phosphorus.

      But there are striking similarities:

      ISIS cuts people's limbs and heads using knives and machetes, JSIL uses sophisticated DIME munitions to achieve same.

      ISIS uses youths to carry it's barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them. JSIL has a national military service, and uses its youth to carry barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them.

  • US university defeated BDS by hiring three Israeli soldiers to talk up 'love' for Israel
    • "I asked before and never got an answer: why has every successive American president been unable or unwilling to stand up to the arrogance and ingratitude of this small, UN created state, which since its inception has been killing and displacing the native population in total disregard of the world condemnation, and in fact has been rewarding its crimes with billions of taxpayers’ money? "

      Google "jobs lost because of Israel Lobby in US" and "Jeremiah Wright controversy" and the destructive force of Israel Lobby and its ability to destroy people's livelihoods, jobs, prospects and futures , will become clear.

      pro-Israel Lobby removes all and any contrarian voices from the public domain before they become significant, while at the same time offering many financial (scholarships, internships etc,) to young people who can be moulded to understand that there are some points of view that are career suicides.

      Look up also "Manufactured Consent" & "limits of acceptable discourse" in writings of Noam Chomsky

  • US spying on Israel reveals cynical heart of the 'special relationship'
    • "What would happen if the Obama administration leaked to a friendly reporter (or to Mondoweiss) the story about the Israel lobby and its helpers in Congress?"

      It would be buried - it will show in small paragraph online and without comments allowed. This is a power of the Israel Lobby on MSM - the limits of acceptable conversation are set.

      BUT, with a glacial speed but also with a glacial inevitability, the Obama administration is moving the conversation about Israel Lobby into the mainstream. All sorts of red lines of the discourse have been breached, but so slowly, that the opposition has almost nothing to rally about. The progress has been spectacular, but you have to compare it decade by decade, not month by month.

  • Seething with anger and fear
    • Annie, you are right of course, it was 3 am when I wrote it, and I didn't put it well. Far from implying that Dr. Kanaaneh is not entitled to his feelings, I was referring to my flow of feelings: how ( people process adverse reactions: in order: anger, sadness, followed by fear and guilt) the plight of Palestinians affected me.
      I was paying complement to Dr. Kanaaneh's resilience, and I hope he understood it as such.

      When I said praying, I meant hoped for a least bad outcome. After outlying my fear that Israeli Society is moving towards
      " final solution to a Palestinian question" and it is step away from step 7 of Stanton's Step of Extermination. What would you have me hope for? What would you have me pray for? Did you read Dr. Kanaaneh's piece? Do you understand what reality downs on him? Do you realise what he cannot make himself say, and so he borrows other people's words to say?
      Recently, one Palestinian family, Dawabsheb, was burned alive in their home. In November 2013, family with five children, from village of Sinjil in West Bank escaped. On a scale of population, ethnic cleansing is escape from burning building, while genocide is being burned in the building.
      I am sorry that you are so angered by my wishes and prayers for Palestinians to be delivered from evil. I have always admired Dr. Kanaaneh's intellect and clarity of thinking. I hope he understands me better than you did, even if I write in shorthand.

    • Dr. Kanaaneh, are you still at the anger stage? I am well pass it. My screaming at the news, at the politicians, at the smugness of people who ask me why am I obsessing with "Jews" is so last decade.

      I don't do anger any more.

      I am pass sadness as well. I used to cry when I saw what has come to pass in Greater Israel. I used to cry when bombs were raining down on Gaza. I am well pass it.

      I don't do sadness any more.

      The emotion that I am gripped by is fear. Raw, rocking back and forth, petrified, staring at the abyss fear. The descent of Israel into a state of the nation gripped by self propelling and self propagating psychosis is fast and its relentless on its path. And there is nothing to stop it. This is a one way runaway train to genocide, and I can see it clear as day: Every step necessary to reach the point of no return is already either happened or is happening now:

      This is borrowed (abridged and annotated) from Stanton 1998:

      Genocide is a process that develops in eight stages that are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The process is not linear. Logically, later stages must be preceded by earlier stages. But all stages continue to operate throughout the process.

      1. CLASSIFICATION: Categories to distinguish people into “us and them” by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: Palestinian and Jew, Muslim and Jew,

      2. SYMBOLIZATION: We give names or other symbols to the classifications and apply the symbols to members of groups. Jarmulka and headscarf. Yellow car number plates versus Blue car number plates. Identity card saying one is Jew, or Muslim, or Christian.

      3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals (not having soul, unlike Jews), vermin(like snakes), insects (like cockroaches)or diseases.

      4. ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of state responsibility for genocidal killings: Settlers - recently encouraged to carry arms.

      5. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may forbid intermarriage or social interaction. Extremist terrorism targets moderates, intimidating and silencing the center.
      Check. Check. Check and Check.

      6. PREPARATION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are drawn up. Victims property is expropriated. They are often segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved.

      7. EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human.

      8. DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims.

      What I am praying for is that the feeding of hate frenzy that is increasingly obvious even to the outsiders will result in mass expulsion and ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from Greater Israel rather than their extermination, althougth there is enough ammunition and arms (and knives!) in the hands of Settlers (militia and military) to do the job.

      I am well aware that the hate like that will not spare Jews from their killers. They will be bad Jews, self hating Jews, lefties Jews, Pal lover Jews, Pal hiding Jews aplenty to keep slaughter going a bit longer.

      I'm petrified.

      Because we already know that genocides will happen again and again. and there is one about to explode right in front of our eyes.

  • A Palestinian victim rates 23 paragraphs in 'NYT' (because he was shot by Egyptians, not Israelis)
    • The truth is that the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies now control virtually the entire mainstream news media, from The New York Times and The Washington Post to NPR and the major networks to Fox News and most of right-wing talk radio."

      - It may be truth, but by happy coincidence a very similar situation was described once already in the political satire in different century and on the different continent and as some of the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies are Jewish, the truth or not truth, the entire topic is off limits, for ever and ever, or you are Jew hating Anti-Semite who drunk the oldest hate with your mother's milk while she read you "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" in lieu of a bedtime story!.......

  • Will Israel's policies fail of their own accord?
  • Netanyahu feels complete impunity because all US politicians need 'support of Jewish community' -- former Israeli diplomat
    • I do wonder for how long would Israel maintain it's military supremacy if they did not have access to american ammunition and american spare parts for it's military hardware. I remember reading somewhere (DEBKA file?) that during operation Protective Edge Israel had to dip into American stocks of ammunition as it's own stocks became depleted ( and we are talking of 5 weeks of "war" against infinitely less well equipped Hamas partisans. If they had to produce their own ammunition, they would have to import each and every one of raw materials from outside - and only by sea or air.

  • The mainstream press can't handle anti-Zionism-- Rosengarten
  • What would Prophet Mohammad do to Trump?
    • Actually, I can see that happening:

      What may have been a sick fantasy and game play (why else is one buying lots of guns ? ) spilled over into rage and indiscriminate violence.

      One tries to justify one's actions when faced with dreadful aftermath of our actions

      "She asked for it,"
      "Her skirt was too short"
      "He looked at me funny"

      Justification is stronger, if we can persuade ourselves that we protect others with our actions:

      "They worship idols"
      "They are nothing more than cockroaches, spreading disease"
      "They want our women "
      "They hate us with the oldest hate"

      There is also a

      "I didn't really mean it"

      What I really, really, cannot understand is why REMOVE it.

  • Palestinians took over in the afternoon, at the Haaretz NIF conference
    • I agree Mooser,In the next paragraph ( swallowed by computer) I was making a point that romantic view of the past is hardly preserve of Jews - my childhood was full of stories of "inexplicable" dislike that Ukrainians feel for Polish people, and that they were wild, nomadic people who were rejecting civilising influence of Poles.

    • "What keeps us Jewish is always being on the side of the slave, never on the side of the slave-owner "

      I think this is a very romantic view of Jewish past. Just looking at 17th century only In Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine, Jews took on side of polish szlachta (nobility) who were colonising ukrainian steppes, and acted as tax collectors and absent landowner's plenipotentiaries.

    • Actually, russian was not that hard to master, belonging to a group of slavic languages...

    • Haaretz may not have the mass appeal - it is due to it's serious reporting and in-depth analysis, but it is willing to entertain the notion that Zionism is flawed and universal human rights have moral merit - something that is as rare as unicorn in mainstream media, both in Israel and in the west.

      I understand that Haaretz, like UK Guardian, is thinking of expanding its online presence globally and I am sure it will widen it's audience considerably.

      I always maintained that Israel's supremacist ethno-religious state ideology stands or falls on it's support in United States. Therefore a battle that will hasten the demise of Zionism is a battle for an american public opinion.

    • Remember days and days of memorising english irregular verbs...

  • As unrest grows, Hamas proposes controversial solution to unpaid public sector salaries
  • Roger Cohen and Jeremy Ben-Ami go on the road for the two-state solution
    • "The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine"

      Which bit is anti-semitic?

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      Which part of that statement is racist, exactly?

    • Hopmi, Are you for real?:

      "What of the Muslim argument that Muslim need not one, but 57 backup countries"

      Is this your way of arguing that Israelis can take over any European Country (Poland for example, you were living there not quite 2000 years ago) , because Polish people, greedy pigs, have many other european countries?

      Or can Israelis help themselves to Argentina, as it is a Catholic country, and Catholics have dozens of other Catholic countries to go to.

      Finally, can Israelis ethnically cleanse New Zealand (such a pleasant land....) and tell new zealanders to stop kvetching, as they have huge amount of capitalist countries to go to?

  • It is becoming ordinary for writers to speak about Palestine
    • People used to ask me, why do you use your own name on the internet - what about safety of anonymity?

      And I would find it difficult to put it to words, but I think that the impact of telling the truth is greater when we do not hide and it underlines the power of our convictions.

      I had my share of abuse, of hate mail, even elaborate pretence of supposedly a criminal investigation being carried out against me for "inciting racial hatred" (which tested my belief in impartiality of British justice system).

      But isn't it all about creating space for others to speak up about the injustice in the world? Especially when you are going against determined or dangerous opponent? Especially when it costs us our livelihood, our income, and sometimes our good name and freedom?

    • Snowballing....

      The danger is that Israel may decide that the time to get rid of Palestinians is NOW.

  • Human Rights Trump Oppression: Over 800 New Yorkers stand in solidarity with refugees and Muslims
  • Terrorism is an understandable response to west's wars in Middle East, realist and left writers say
    • Qubt saw western influence on his society and hated that. You know what?

      I look at the way Hollywood and neocons infest Poland's culture and politics, and I'm not happy at all.

      Try to wear miniskirt in some parts of Jerusalem and you will see hostile reaction.

  • Trump and Netanyahu call it off
    • I must confess to a very selfish desire:

      I would love to see Trump and Natanyahu both being in power at the same time. There is deliciously unknown quality as to which way the fight would have went when two egotistic narcissists were to try to outdo each other. It would be spectacle to behold, the fireworks would explode and Trump would have no choice but to call things like they are with Israel, Israel lobby, and pro-Israel media.

      And being who he is he would say it outright, loudly, and every attempt to shut him up would cause him to double down.

      Hell, if I am dreaming, may I also dream about Trump ordering an independent commission of enquiry into 9/11?

  • Brookings conference on 'future for Israelis and Palestinians' featured zero Palestinians
    • Being white, privileged, educated, reasonably secure and satisfied with my place in the world, I rarely, if ever feel slighted or scorned or sidelined in society I live in.

      But I do admit to ( thankfully rare) sudden flashes of intense anger when I read about this closed shop and the people inside that don't give a damn about me not due to my incorrect political views, or my insufficient economic clout, but due to incorrect ethno - religious category to which I was born to. This creates a momentary, but scarily real need to smash somebody's teeth in.

      This is as close as I can ever come to feeling like an ethnic minority at the receiving end of the ingrained discrimination, disdain, or stone cold indifference. God knows how people manage to control their emotions when they face the same attitudes ( not to mention life altering actions) day in and day out, through their entire life.

  • 'Untenable one-state reality' is taking hold, Kerry tells Israel supporters
    • If politics is an art of the possible, then lets look at the incredible change in the discourse on Israel.

      It's "democracy", it's "pluckiness" and it's occupation, it's colonial policies, it's political move towards far right national neoconservatism they are all being brought to light and unpicked thread by thread in the comments sections of the mainstream media, even as they (media) try to keep valiantly to a party line.

      The truth about Israel has breached the defences and while it may take a generation to show up in the manifesto of the upper echelons of the political greasy pole, this battle is all but won.

      All this happened during Obama administration - I know arguments that Obama could have done more - but look at what Kerry is able to say in a polite society and not be tarred and feathered and run out of town and wonder at the progress on the discourse we are having.

      The next two battles, and possibly more difficult to fight let alone win, are

      the battle where the nastiness of Israel towards its colonial subjects is accepted on a tide of xenophobia and Islamophobia, and

      the freedom of speech on the Internet is severely curtailed in a name of a common front towards common enemy (aka war on "terrorism").

  • 'Absolute scum' -- Trump's frightening speech
    • "Wait till he’s got the Republican Party nomination, if he gets it, and his anti-immigrant pitch can be expanded to go after both white blue collar workers and the African-American voters, many of whom deeply resent undocumented workers taking low-wage work, and legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above them"

      Jews are a prime example of legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above white blue collar workers and the African American voters.

      Do we really believe that you can whip up that sort of frenzied resentment and xenophobia and then control it well enough that it will NOT turn on Jews?

      At some point Trump will have to fight with Clinton. She is an establishment personified. But she is white and christian. So which section of establishment do you think would make a perfect target for a xenophobe?

      Sadly, there are no Arabists in the establishment that could be sacrificed in the public opinion war.

      Talk about powder keg.

  • Elliott Abrams wants John Kerry to STFU about Palestine
    • DaBakr asks "so what was it about before ’67?"

      a. Before 1967 it was about Palestinian-Israelis but not Jewish-Israelis living under martial law in Israel (being of incorrect ethno - religious category) and

      b.about ethnic cleansing of 750000 natives from Palestine, and

      c.about Israel land grab over and above the land that they were given by United Nations, which was land that they accepted when they proclaimed Independence, and

      d. Naked colonial enterprise by World Zionist Council and Jewish Colonial Fund (later known as Jewish National Fund) in Palestine from the end of eighteen century dreamed up by likes of Theodor Herzl, and Vladimir Jabotinsky, who wrote the following;

      "There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. I say this with such conviction, not because I want to hurt the moderate Zionists. I do not believe that they will be hurt. Except for those who were born blind, they realised long ago that it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting "Palestine" from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

      My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent.

      The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage."

    • Beat me to it, Amigo!

  • Palestinian man 'killed in cold blood' on day that claims 4 Palestinian lives
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  • Why Rabbi Susan Talve was called a 'real terrorist' by St Louis activists
    • "If I am not mistaken, US law can put you in jail for so much as looking at the wrong website, or being the wrong person’s lawyer. Or sending money to the wrong charity.

      I would add Don Siegelman to your list, Mooser.

      There was a communist saying "show me the man, and the paragraph [in criminal law] can always be found".

  • Taking on jihadists without taking on racism is a lost battle
    • I must disagree with the premise of the book. Muslim brotherhood is socially and religiously conservative Sunni Islam movement, but it is neither violent not fundamentalist in its outlook.

      CIA supported Muslim Brotherhood because it needed it as a counterbalance to pro-Soviet and non-religious Egyptian government.

      CIA supported Afghanistan's mujahideen but Muslim brotherhood did not have, and does not have to this day,an aggressive, fundamentalist streak that would provide an expensive motivation to fight non religious Soviet Union .

      On the other hand, Saudi Arabia's Wahhabis were all in. They really and truly believe that they must recreate God's order on this Earth. They are true Zealots, and they have enormous quantity of money to spread their peculiar take on the religion. They are scary, they are fanatical, and they take the word of God literally. They are responsible for rise of Taliban, al-Quida and ISIS.

      In order to destroy the reputation of Hezbollah and Hamas in the western world eyes, "the fact had been fitted around the policy" :Hamas and Hezbollah have to be painted as mindless fundamentalist religeous crazies - It is just to dangerous that some may notice that these are resistance movements.

      So OF COURSE they are painted as similar/ideologically related to Taliban and Al Qaeda and ISIS. (do you remember yellowcake and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? - it's exactly the same propaganda technique )

      But the stubborn fact is that Hamas has grown out of the Muslim Brotherhood Ideals of how to create a pious society, while Hezbollah's religious roots are Shia. Both are grassroots organisations with a very strong resistance to Israeli occupation identity.

  • On #GivingTuesday, meet our new Development Director
    • In the first photo, the outfit surely came first. In the second photo the spectacles came first .
      Elementary, my dear Watson.

      ( although, there are many other blogs about sartorial advice, that do it much better than Mondoweiss)

    • I agree with you wholeheartedly Boris. There are many things about zionism in and out of Israel that induces vomit. Hophmi should take your advice.

  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
    • I understand your fear, Moser!

      Especially taking into the account the building codes have not been changed despite the collapse of building 7.

      On a separate note I remember reading this article, and it states perfectly adequately, as far as I'm concerned, why building 7, despite collapsing so mysteriously, has not provoked any worries about weakness in the commonly used methods, materials and techniques in building of sky rises in the western world.

      SEC & EEOC:
      Attack Delays Investigations

      By Margaret Cronin Fisk
      National Law Journal
      September 17, 2001

      Additional details emerged Friday about the effect of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center on investigations being conducted by the New York offices of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, both of which were housed in the building.

      The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom.

      The EEOC said documents from about 45 active cases were missing and could not be easily retrieved from any backup system. One of these cases was a sexual harassment charge filed on Sept. 10 against Morgan Stanley, one of the prime corporate victims of the World Trade Center disaster.

      A statement from the commission said that "we are confident that we will not lose any significant investigation or case as a result of the loss of our building in New York. No one whom we have sued or whose conduct we have been investigating should doubt our resolve to continue our pursuit of justice in every such matters."

      But the short-term problems will be immense, said Gregory Joseph of New York's Law Offices of Gregory Joseph.

      "Court papers can largely be reconstituted, but work product has to be reconstructed," he said. "This will cause delays in court and will require significant reduplication of effort." Some data, he added, "won't be recreatable."

      "Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."

      "The SEC will have some difficulty, but the bounce-back will come relatively easily," predicts Harvey Goldschmid, Dwight professor of law at Columbia University and former general counsel of the SEC. "It will throw things off for a period of time, but most of what's important can be regained. They will have to reconstruct these documents. But most of this was backed up or in Washington. They've lost some transcripts but even they're available."

      EEOC Records Destroyed

      The EEOC's New York office, which was housed in 7 World Trade Center, sustained no loss of life. But all the agency's records were destroyed.

      Many of the files are backed up in the computer system, but a substantial number of documents are simply gone, said Spencer Lewis, the EEOC district director. Depositions and notes were not scanned into computers and are lost. With depositions and interviews, the agency will be contacting court reporters "and hoping that they've got them so we can reconstruct files," Lewis said. This covers about 45 active cases, including a recent action against Morgan Stanley.

      But employment litigators believe the effect here, too, will be transitory.

      "The EEOC is decimated as far as office space goes," but any problems are "only short-term," said Michael Weber of the New York office of Littler Mendelson. "They will get back to business." The agencies will be seeking documents from the private law firms and defendants, Weber notes. "My sense is that we will cooperate," he noted. "Our goal is not to take advantage of this catastrophe."

      "A lot of their records they'll have online, so they'll just reprint them out," adds Harkins. "The EEOC is in a better position than the SEC, because the SEC has a lot more confidential files."

      Despite reassurances, that most of the SEC cases will continue, (despite loss of confidential files) I understand, but don't remember the sources, that vast majority of these 3000-4000 cases have been abandoned.

  • 'Jewish Communal Fund' seeds Islamophobia as toxic as Trump's
    • Well, I don't know about french spies, but british spies are consummate professionals. Just looking at James Bond, it is unlikely that he would get caught in his spy-craft, and if caught, that he would be successfully detained.

  • Seachange in public opinion: 'I am tired of Israel using US-made rockets to bomb Palestinians so that ultra-conservatives can steal their land'
    • I agree Boomer, it is change that reaches tipping point. Recent poll of British Jews indicates that only 59 percent of them consider themselves Zionist.

  • Video: Undercover Israeli soldiers kill one, arrest one inside Hebron hospital
    • "Once the U.S. bombs a few more hospitals, and Israel has invaded a few more hospitals and assassinated people in them, this will be the new normal, so if some Palestinians take out a wing or two of some Israeli hospital, the U.S. and Israel should be good with that."

      Thank you Kris. You logic is impeccable and conclusion uncanny.

  • The titter-tape charade
  • Obama friends Netanyahu with one-sided statement
  • Actions planned to protest Netanyahu's visit to Washington
    • truthurts,
      While I agree with you that facts plainly show that a lot of contributions to politicians are from Jewish donors, I don't think that it is their Jewishness that is a main characteristic there. I believe that it is their pro-Zionist sympathies that are necessary for someone to make donations to buy politicians' pro-Israel votes. So I would prefer to have them identified as pro-Zionist Jewish donors, in the same way we refer to pro-Zionist Christians.

      The dual (interchangable) identity of Jewishness as both religious and racial/blood/tribal makes for such an effective trap for anyone to fall in and be accused of Anti-Semitism, that a little care with labels is called for.

  • Netanyahu's craziness is calculated, to drive out Palestinians
    • "History shows that Hitler was unhinged and his behavior erratic to say the least, and he was able to get rid of the Jewish people in the most heinous, inhumane ways.

      Thankfully, Nutty is not that bad....."

      We don't know is Netanyahu is not that bad. The history has not yet unfolded itself fully.

  • Despite global disgust, Netanyahu doubles down on claim that Hitler got idea of Final Solution from a Palestinian
    • I am not sure world would be a better place, and I wonder if frustrated Zionists would make my country, Poland, a better place.

  • 'It's like military reserve duty': Jerusalem mayor calls on Israelis to carry guns as tension soars
    • Jon66,

      I was being sarcastic, but I like the idea of this bet.
      Of course the country that created cherry tomato, and is a start up nation, would choose a sophisticated, high tech version of yellow crescent:

      How about the identity documents that clearly indicate whether person is Jewish or otherwise - with a RFID chip that can be read remotely, and a google glass equipment to identify friend from foe?

      $500 is a nice little sum. But before you commit yourself, do some googling.

    • "Samri indicated not all pedestrians will be required to walk through the machines, only “a selective review of suspicious persons.” "

      The whole progression to 1939 is accelerating. I am taking bets as to how soon will Zionists persuade themselves that a yellow crescent compulsorily displayed on the Palestinian clothing will be a matter of pure expediency.

    • Oh, great - does that mean that dispute whether civilians are legitimate targets for the anti-Occupation Palestinian resistance fighters have finally been settled?

      There are, after all - finally openly admitted to be - militias.

      ( Suicide bombers attacking civilian targets can't be painted quite so evil any more ?)

  • Jerusalem at a breaking point
    • One must be blind not to realise that there is a design in all this. Palestine free of Palestinians - the endgame of Zionism. The Axis of Evil ruse - the upheaval of entire Middle East that would allow further ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to take place in the " fog of war" didn't quite go according to plan - and the US making peace with Iran and Russia stepping into Syria - released the fury over unmet expectations.

      Pure Jewish State with no pollution from resident Arabs and other Gentiles - so tantalisingly close under Bush Junior - is now further away.

      So let the bloodletting begin......

      Netanyahu must provide bread and circuses to the crowds baying for blood.

  • Hey Jews, listen up, Netanyahu is your leader!
  • 'NYT' piece on stonethrowing leaves out 'occupation'
    • I noticed way the many MSMs link words - it's never stones, it's always "stones and firebombs", so that it appears that firebombs are as common as stones.

  • Berkeley human welfare commissioner fired for backing occupation divestment resolution
    • I wonder how will they spin this video:
      Hunting Palestinian children for sport and high fives all round after hit

  • Israeli gov't used my image for propaganda purposes without my consent
  • Iran is going to nuke your dog, pro-Israel group warns
  • Over 20 RE/MAX Israel agents sell millions worth of illegal properties in West Bank settlements
    • If any publicity is good publicity, the RE/MAX should enjoy this video from Apartheid Adventures. I did send it to them.

  • Nadler says his vote against Iraq war caused some to question his 'commitment to Israel'
  • ‘The strategic implications of these demolitions are clear’: UN slams Israeli home demolitions and settlement expansion
    • Hi Rashers, what is tragic, is that I can't make up my mind if you are being sarcastic or if Danny really wrote that....

  • Roundtable on the Palestinian solidarity movement and Alison Weir
    • Idea that Zionism is racism is, of course, not new. From ideas of "new Hebrew" to "Jewish pioneers" as a better kind of Jew to ideas that Zionist Jews have a right of return to the lands their ancestors left 2000 years ago, (while Palestinians have no right of return to the lands they and their ancestors left 67 years ago) they are all ideas of Jews having superior rights to the lesser mortals.

      What complicates the issue is imbedded in the Zionism idea of safe haven for Jews.

      And I must say, that I agree completely with the premise that such safe haven should exist. I am acutely aware that Nazis did not mean to finish the extermination of unwanted humans on Jewish population; there is plenty of data that they wanted to rid the globe of Slavs as well, and the only reason that my kin and family are alive is that the war ended as soon as it did.

      I am just not sold on the concept that Israel as and where it is now, or even how it was created by British and UN as a safe haven for Jews is just and fair to Jews and non-Jews equally.

      My sympathising with idea of safe haven for Jews does not, in any shape or form condones that the Jewish safety should be done at the expense of Palestinians and their right to their safety.

      But this conflation of ideas in one "Zionism" word: nationalism based on yearning for safety AND ethnocentric superiority combined make it a shape-shifter concept that means whatever is needed to win the argument (just as "Jew" is a shape-shifter concept which can mean religion, race or culture -depending on requirements of an argument).

    • I am really grateful for being directed to that post by Tree. Such clarity.

    • I am finding the whole Alison Weir (just like I found whole Greta Berlin) thing incomprehensible and frankly, it is making me mad.

      Either antisemitism is racism directed against Jews, or it is not.

      If it is racism, then lets apply the same criteria in recognising it as you would to racism against any other racial group.

      But this is not what is going on here at all.

      This is splitting and re-splitting hair about in what way Jewish sensibilities have been hurt , and frankly, for all my above average education, the whole sorry spectacle is going totally over my head.

      I feel like a scientist made to sit at the lecture about post-modernism, where words are not just words, definitions are not just definitions, and the meaning of words is whatever the most convoluted argument of the most boring participants can wear down listeners to accept.

      Not being Jewish or having Jewish contacts, colleagues, friends or co-workers, my only exposure to things Jewish is from this blog, remnants of Jewish culture in Poland, and actions of Israel I have absolutely no more idea of racism against Jews as I have of racism against Black/Coloured people or, more recently, against Muslims. Why the f@@k am I made to feel like I need to walk on eggshells when discussing Jews the way I do not feel when I discuss Muslims or Black people?

      We are talking racism, don't we ?

      "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"
      "racial prejudice [an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics] or discrimination"

      If we are talking racism, then I need much more evidence of "Irrational attitude of hostility against Jew or Jews" or "discrimination against Jews" or "belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities" or "belief that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race e.i. superiority of non-Jewish race(s)" against Alison Weir.

      If we are NOT talking racism, then I need to know why anti-semitism is not just racism, what are additional components of anti-semitism over and above garden variety racism against lesser mortals?

      What I DO know, and this is part that makes me mad like hell, is that the whole sorry business of anti-semitism and "self-hating" is making Jews and non-Jews really, really careful in getting engaged in issues relating to Israel Lobby, Zionism and Occupation of Palestine.

      The nebulous edges of what already is and not yet is anti-semitism form an effective and damaging form of censorship that Kafka would revel in.

      If Mrs. Weir is a racist then by all means do condemn her. So far, I have not seen one jota of evidence that this is a case.

      But surely she, and I and all people who misspeak and miswrite and read research written by haram researchers or shock! horror! briefly occupy the same space as certified racists are allowed benefit of the doubt that a single stroke of pen when judged against the lifetime of opinions and actions does not make someone a racist just like life lived in beautifully laundered clothing marred by a single spot on a tie does not make someone slovenly by nature.

      So far, all I can see is the pilpul to the nth degree and incomprehensible amount of venom and virtually no clear, defensible arguments.

      Anyone who thinks that this sorry spectacle of character assassination is just or fair needs to be brought to explain themselves, and their particular understanding of the word


    • If it is OK for pro-palestinian Anti-Zionists to appear on Jewish supremacist media carrying message that everybody deserves equal human rights - in this case Palestinians,
      it is OK for pro-palestinian Anti-Zionist to appear on White supremacist media carrying message that everybody deserves equal human rights - in this case Palestinians.

      It appears to me that many supporters of Palestinian rights are deeply forgiving about the attitudes that, when applied to Jews instead of Palestinians would be considered deeply anti-semitic.

      I call it tribal blindness - belief that our tribe is better, more ethical, "doesn't really mean what it seems it means", while, of course non-tribal members of the discourse are likely un-ethical (unless proved, repeatedly, otherwise) and they OF COURSE mean what the worse possible interpretation of their meaning can mean.

      Double standard. I believe it to be subconscious - it would be anti-semitic to think it is deliberate.

  • Israeli Banks flipping out over looming European boycott
  • Israel's 'blame the hand' excuse for settler violence
  • Deconstructing Netanyahu's response to the Iran deal
    • Lets not forget that the money Iran will "get", will be their own money - previously frozen by western banks. While the money Israel gets and will get are American taxpayer money.

      Also, when Netanyahu says that Iran threatens Israel, he refers to links with Hamas and Hezbollah - two organisations that are defending (sometimes more effectively, sometimes less) native people of Palestine and Lebanon from Israel's past and ongoing aggression.

  • You won't find a mix like ours anywhere else in the media!
    • Just donated $100,-

      I have a bad memory about the "Megaphone"

      This in 2006 from Jerusalem Post:

      As Al-Jazeera station takes to the air in English and with other new Arab English-language media initiatives such as the Ramallah-based Palestine Times fresh off the press, Israel has begun effectively using a new weapon in its public diplomacy arsenal to fight the media war on the Web - a locally-developed computer software tool called the "Internet Megaphone." The Foreign Ministry itself is now pushing the idea, urging supporters of Israel everywhere to become cyberspace soldiers "in the new battleground for Israel's image." The Megaphone, which was first reported on in The Jerusalem Post when it made its debut in July during the Lebanon war, alerts activists about polls and articles about Israel on the Internet and enables them to express their support or opposition by e-mail. After just four months, it has been downloaded by more than 25,000 people from the Web site called GIYUS (Mobilization) which stands for Give Israel Your Support. Amir Gissin, who heads the Public Affairs Department at the Foreign Ministry, has been working behind the scenes to promote the idea. "During the war an initiative began, and we had the opportunity to do some very nice things with the Megaphone community," Gissin recently told the David Bar-Illan media conference in Ariel. "An Israeli company developed a type of software that functions like a beeper from one central place. They send alerts and anyone who downloads the software gets a pop-up with links to an activity. It can be to vote for Israel in a CNN survey or react to an especially nasty article. We still have a long way to go, but this is our future." Among the accomplishments of the Megaphone community during the war, Gissin said, was its role in obtaining an admission from the Reuters news agency that a photograph of damage done to Beirut in an Israeli air strike had been doctored by a Lebanese photographer. The extra smoke in the picture was first noticed by American blogger Charles Johnson who then alerted others, and later won an award for promoting Israel's case. Stewart Purvis, a journalism professor at London's City University who also attended the Bar-Illan conference, wrote in The Guardian last week that following Gissin's speech, he decided to check out the power of the Megaphone by logging onto the Giyus site. "It did not take long for an alert to come through," he said. "A Foreign Office minister, Kim Howells, had issued a press statement condemning that day's Palestinian rocket attack which killed an elderly Israeli and wounded other civilians. GIYUS wanted site users to 'show your appreciation of the UK's response.'" One click took him to a prepared e-mail addressed to Howells and a slot to send a personal comment, Purvis said. He went ahead and did, later confirming with the Foreign Office in London that it had received the e-mails. "In the e-mails, there would be no indication of the involvement of GIYUS, although Howells may have been suspicious that so many people around the world had read the same Yahoo story about him and decided to e-mail him," Purvis concluded. He also noted that GIYUS supporters had claimed success in "balancing" an opinion poll on a pro-Arab Web Site by turning a vote condemning Israel's war in Lebanon into an endorsement. When GIYUS noticed a poll on albawaba asking whether the violence in Lebanon had been an Israeli provocation, it sent a message with a link to the poll to its members and soon the results jumped from an overwhelming yes to a resounding no. The Megaphone was introduced by the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) during this summer's war with the aim of getting the pro-Israel community to respond in real time to developments on the Web. To attract users from around the world, translates polls into English, French, Hebrew and Spanish. Yonit Farago in The Times reported that "Israel's government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. "The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track Web sites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages." WUJS's Jonny Cline said that Jewish students and youth were ideally placed to present Israel's side of the Middle East story. "We're saying to these people that if Israel is being bashed, don't ignore it, change it," Cline said. "A poll like CNN's takes just a few seconds to vote in, but if thousands take part the outcome will be changed. What's vital is that the international face of the conflict is balanced." Gissin has gone as far as sending a letter (posted on the Israel advocacy Web site, that urges supporters of Israel to use the Megaphone. "Dear friends," he writes, "Many of us recognize the importance of the Internet as the new battleground for Israel's image. It's time to do it better, and coordinate our on-line efforts on behalf of Israel. "Please go to, download the Megaphone, and you will receive daily updates with instant links to important Internet polls, problematic articles that require a talkback, etc. "We need 100,000 Megaphone users to make a difference. So, please distribute this mail to all Israel's supporters. "Do it now. For Israel."

  • New online digital mapping tool shows inside story of Israeli assault on Gaza
    • There is nothing to stop Israel to create similar platform to show their losses in the same conflict. I think it would be educational.
      As to your comment that Amnesty International does not show positions of Hamas fighting posts - again - Israel can lead the way by showing Israeli fighting posts around Sderot and in and around kibbutzes in Gaza vicinity.
      And you say that Amnesty International does not show where Hamas fighters lived. Israel can show on its interactive platform where Israeli soldiers were living during the attack on Gaza. We already know that many groups are offered accommodation in kibbutzes, but it would be nice to have better insight.

  • Theodor Herzl wasn't Jewish, according to Israeli minister
    • Tsk, tsk, tsk Mooser,
      You are sailing close to the wind with your Gilad Atzmonesque conspiracy theories.

  • 'A traumatized society is dangerous'
    • The legislation allowing for forceful feeding of the prisoners is now going through Knesset.

  • What I learned crossing the Qalandia Checkpoint
    • Funny, I had another loud, rough, aggressive and guttural sounding language altogether in my mind's eye, when I was reading your post.....
      But hey, I had numerous relatives perish in Auschwitz, so maybe it's just me

  • Israel's race to economic (and moral) bankruptcy
    • BDS will speed this process, the imported service providers ( who are not allowed to interbreed with locals) will slow this down.
      The middle class is already hollowing out, the rate of geniuses and Nobel price production spluttering to a standstill with Russia and Western educated intellectuals retireing.
      The 30 odd "families" that own most of Israel industries and real estate all have several passports each, I expect.
      One day, Dimona will rust through, and USA will stop spare parts for sophisticated weapons.

      Not sure if it all come to pass before or after massacre of Palestinians.

  • Netanyahu under siege, in 'the most embattled democracy on earth'
    • Landie C

      Can people on IDF recruitment list leave the country to seek asylum anywhere else?

  • A banner day for BDS -- though you'd have to read the Jewish press to know it
    • Really momentous story about Orange Telecom - this from The Guardian:

      "The French telecoms giant Orange has indicated that it intends to terminate its relationship with the Israeli company that licenses its brand in the country – and would end the relationship “tomorrow” if it could.

      The comments – made by the company’s CEO, Stephane Richard – have emerged amid a sharp push back by the Israeli government against growing calls for an international boycott of Israel over its continuing occupation of Palestinian territories.

      They were angrily condemned by the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, who called on the French government to “distance itself publicly from the miserable statement and the miserable action of a company that is partially owned by the government of France.”

      Although Orange only licenses its name to the Israeli company Partner, the threat – if carried through – will be seen as a major success for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement which has been campaigning on the issue in both France and Egypt.

      Orange, in which the French government has a quarter stake, has been under pressure in France as well as in Egypt to terminate its relationship with Partner over its supply of services to Israeli settlements regarded as illegal under international law.

      In a report published in May the group claimed that Partner had built more than 100 telecommunication antennas on confiscated Palestinian land, as well as operating four shops in Israeli settlements.

      Speaking at a news conference in Cairo to lay out plans for the years ahead in Egypt, Richard said that his company intended to withdraw the Orange brand from Israel as soon as possible, but that the move would take time.

      “I am ready to abandon this tomorrow morning but the point is that I want to secure the legal risk for the company. I want to terminate this, once again, but I don’t want to expose Orange to a level of risk and of penalties that could be really sizeable for the company,” he said.

  • Dutch government issues travel warning about 'violent Jewish colonists'
  • Israeli propaganda dominates front page of 'New York Times' today
    • Desalinisation plants require very substantial input of electricity and results in large quantities of salty "brine" that is really, really polluting.
      Gaza would need to have electricity generating capability and means of disposal of effluent from the plant.

      Israel keeps the water from reaching Gaza aquifer - without that little trick there would be no shortage of freshwater in Gaza.

    • With shortage of water in areas of America, the NYTimes front page "infomercial" is designed to promote the Israel's "miracle" of defeating the drought. Just like Israel's weapons and crowd control equipment are "battle tested" so a case is being made that Israel's prowess in water management is "drought" tested.

      I expect lots of contracts for Israeli companies. But I wonder if there is a (very) small print in a contract that says

      You must have access to your neighbour's fresh water aquifers (from which water can be extracted at no cost and with no penalties) to achieve results stipulated in this contract. As a party to this contract, this [Israeli] company cannot guarantee the miraculous results unless the above condition is fulfilled.

  • The totalitarian reign of Sheldon Adelson
    • Shingo, you ask "Why Israel means everything to these individuals?"

      I believe that this is totally a matter of early conditioning. If you are born in a family where certain "truths" are unquestionable, then it is ingrained so deeply in you limbic (emotional) brain, that no amount of processing in your neocortex (logical brain) from facts, data, information can overcome this.

      The imprinting in limbic brain has a social dimension - "it is a truth universally acknowledged" in your community.

      The more isolated your community, the more difficult it is to make inroads to you "truths" in your limbic brain, because those inroads are so conditioned on social connections.

      The way to change the conditioning is to access limbic brain with emotion.

      Hence "love bombing" used by cults, creating irrational boundaries by religious prohibitions that rely on mixture of fears of rejection from co-religionists and God(s): "can't show face to strangers" "can't share meals because its not halal/kosher" "Roman catholic must marry roman catholic" and my favourite: "wife must submit to husband"

      There are windows of opportunity to change limbic brain held believes, and they are at times of great emotional upheavals: when you fall in love, when you have children, when you see horrors brought upon some people close up, when you are shamed or rejected publicly, when you come face to face with death.

      Limbic brain changes, just like limbic brain imprints, have social dimension: the change is facilitated by social interaction, interdependence, closeness and cohesion.

      It goes without saying that there is similarity between religious and political beliefs - hence use of fear and loathing as a favourite weapon to manipulate electorate ("They hate us for our freedoms" and "The Welfare Queen driving a pink Cadillac to cash her welfare checks at the liquor store" "Arabs vote in droves")

  • US and Israeli pressure on Nigeria to sell out Palestine at U.N. amounted to 'national security threat'
    • "Present you evidence, Eva"

      Evidence of what? I was merely marvelling at the fact how serendipitous was the fact that of all windows of opportunity that FBI had in the last 20 years of investigating corruption in FIFA, they chose to strike two days before very FIFA Congress where suspension of Israel was to be voted on.

      To look at it as more than mere coincidence would be to imply that US might be looking out for Israel's interests and that would be just plain silly of me, wouldn't it?

    • I am sure that FBI raid on FIFA was not meant to put fear in the hearts of all and every one of national FAs representatives (guilty and innocent alike) ahead of vote to suspend Israel.

      I am sure that the timing of arrests was a mere coincidence.

      /sarcasm off

  • Turning Lebanon into Gaza -- Israel's hole card against Iran deal?
    • I remember this image:

      link to

      Somehow I knew, at that point, that the Iraq will be invaded, and that those Iraqis already know it.

      What they wanted the world to see is that weapons inspections were just a pretext and their country ill be invaded no matter what they'll do or say.

      Guess Poland felt like that in August 1939.

  • 'NYT' again acts as Netanyahu's mouthpiece -- wrongly suggesting he wants talks with Palestinians
    • I agree - I don't believe UN had right to create Israel without explicit agreement of native population.

  • West Bank Palestinians stuck in three-hour traffic jam due to Israeli settler bike race
  • The final straw: The real reason why Palestine wants Israel out of FIFA
    • And of course 5 million Palestinian lingering in refugee camps cannot represent Palestine as they also have no right to travel and no chance in hell of returning g to their villages that Israel is deliberately turned to ruin and now grows water thirsty European trees to try and camouflage their ethnic cleansing.

  • Understanding the 'S' in BDS: It's time to demand sanctions on Israel
    • Ongoing Nakba has to be fully understood in the context of Zionist "Iron Walling " - Arabfrei Lebensraum which results in permanent "warehousing" (read concentrating in camps) of deliberately displaced and unwanted Palestinian population into Gaza and refugee camps throughout the region, NOW IN THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION.

  • MSM's platform for Pamela Geller is equivalent to normalizing David Duke and Nazis
  • Two videos to challenge my liberal Zionist friends
  • Avi Shlaim on liberal Zionism, the 'dead' two-state solution, and colonial pizza
    • For me the most chilling part of this debate was the last remark of Shlomo Ben-Ami. He acknowledged that the end construct of Zionist project In Palestine is creating several Gazas.

  • Forgiving the anti-Semites
    • Yeh, nice try..

      " So the idea was if they were broken during the delivery process, they were returnable."

      Therefore, according to the story, the records were not returned because they didn't sell, they were supposedly "damaged in transit" and one can argue, "not fit for their purpose", so subject to "return privilege".

  • Using the dead: the 'NYT' works with Israel to justify military service
    • Are you calling Tzvia Thier bitter and angry and a total hater?

      If you do, I disagree with you. I can see and resonate with her anger - which I believe is justified. But why do you call her bitter? or a total hater? I did not detect anything in her writing that would justify that.

      I want to develop that "bitter" moniker ( using Betty Phillips):

      Just think of a bitter drink and you’ll have sensations of distaste, revulsion and rejection. A bitter person inspires such emotions. Let’s look at some descriptors: unhappy/depressed, angry, hostile, resentful, dwelling on past wrongs, stubborn, wounded, moody, lashing out at others, ranting about wrongs, carrying emotional baggage, stuck in a rut, blaming others, stereotyping and scapegoating, agitated, negative and critical, defensive, holding grudges, raging, malicious.

      Really? is Tzvia Thier coming across as someone showing characteristics as laid out above, or is she showing healthy grief, long term sadness and justifiable anger at people who used her brother, and now use his memory for their political ends?

  • Three asylum-seekers who left Israel were killed by ISIS in Libya
    • "Good to see Jewish culture is flourishing in Israel"

      I find it difficult to come to terms with, how the things are coming full circle:

      Jews are traumatised and embittered that not enough has been done to save them from Holocaust.

      It is a taboo subject that the very segregation that allowed them to maintain their customs , religion and practices for thousands of years, could had a profound negative effect on the amount of courageous generosity and selfless support they could expect from their European neighbours in their hour of need.

      And today the very same segregation that allowed and allows them to maintain their customs , religion and practices for thousands of years, continues to have a profound negative effect on the amount of courageous generosity and selfless support they extend to their Arab and African neighbours in their hour of need.

      Someone asked Phil Weiss, probably more than once: But will your gentile family hide you when they will come for you?

      I want to ask a question: where are those traumatised and embittered Jews when gentiles need to be given sanctuary in a Jewish home?

    • "The passengers on the St. Louis were killed by Germans, not Americans"

      Thank you, lysias.

      Every time I hear about the horrendous treatment of asylum seekers in Israel I remember the Evian Conference, and Hitler's words:

      "I can only hope and expect that the other world, which has such deep sympathy for these criminals, will at least be generous enough to convert this sympathy into practical aid. We, on our part, are ready to put all these criminals at the disposal of these countries, for all I care, even on luxury ships."

      So there you have it: asylum seekers then and now, treated as criminals, by two regimes wishing for them to be gone.

  • Graham and Rubio are dependent on pro-Israel money in bid for White House
    • Just to clarify, that there is no European Union's working definition on anti-Semitism.

      This organisation is trying to give impression that this officially affiliated with European Union. This cannot be further from the truth.

      It is a sort of Hasbara meme, similar to that of " Arafat died of AIDS ", that is a repeated over and over again on the Internet.

  • Israeli racism takes center stage at Manhattan JCC
    • “What I would want [in a two-state agreement] is maximal territory with minimal Arab citizens of that territory.”

      Clear echoes of "Lebensraum" and "Judenrein". The only question is how far are likes of Batya Kahana-Dror and Ethan Bronner willing to go to achieve that.

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