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Eva Smagacz

White Knight from Britain.

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  • France's burkini ban is a dangerous, Islamophobic assault on feminist values
  • A look at Breitbart's 'Alt-Right Lite' plan for Israel/Palestine
    • Anybody belonging to a distinct minority ( where being a distinct, "Jewish - if born to Jewish mother" bloodline/race issue is still here) that is as successful as Jews are, must have their head examined if they think white supremacists will not, in time, train their beady eyes at them and use them as a hate fodder.

  • I can't stop looking at these great Gawker posts about the Middle East
    • Being libertarian works best when you have money in the bank, and the system is sufficiently rigged that you do not have to share your money for the common good. It works less when you are old and sick and peniless and need medicare and social security like Ayn Rand did.

  • The dark secret of Israel’s stolen babies
    • Well, we had something equally evil here in Europe:

      The Lebensborn is the secret Nazi plan to kidnap children in order to “Germanize” them, creating future generations of soldiers and loyal servants to the Third Reich.
      In Poland alone, from 1940-1945, an estimated 200,000 Polish children living on the German occupied territory in Poland were forcibly taken from their families. An estimated 400,000 children were kidnapped from other parts of Europe including Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Slovenia and Yugoslavia.

      Kidnapped children were “Germanized”, meaning they were given a German name, forced to speak German, indoctrinated with Nazi ideology and forced to cut all ties with their family and former life.

      The children were given a new birth certificate, a fake genealogy, and adopted or fostered into German homes. Other children lived in institutions, state boarding schools or military camps. Younger children (ages birth to age 6) were cared for at Lebensborn homes until they could be adopted.

      link to familycourtinjustice.wordpress.com

  • Not just financial support but inspiration: your role in advancing Mondoweiss
    • Feeling mischievous, I decided to donate again, this time to celebrate contribution Richard Witty made to this site. I think Richard did more to illustrate cognitive dissonance of Zionist Jews in America who are able to feel virtuous, consider themselves a peace builders, while dropping into polite discussion zio-truths like : ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is "currently not necessary."

  • Elie Wiesel is Dead
    • It's funny, but it really isn't - half a dozen of lies, repeated endlessly with help of the media - and a disastrous outcome for entire country.

  • Israel-splaining
  • Question for the Israeli left: Why do you discount the possibility of a second Nakba?
    • I absolutely agree that the question of genocide is not if but WHEN, and the form it will take: massacres versus population transfer.
      The fever pitch hate and self justification of Israel's Jewish population is such, that it can happen at any moment, and with the stirrings of bad blood between Lebanon and Israel that is being reported, the current government may choose a point in time that suits their internal politics and they are convinced that nothing and nobody is willing or able to stop it.

      Can you see one of the more bloodthirsty ministers in Israeli government saying something along the lines:

      "Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command – and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

      He will speak of Amalekites, and of Arabs, and will call death-head formation "special, dedicated IDF forces", but anyone who thinks it is not possible, let alone likely, has not been paying attention.

    • When you are writing of a

      "Just try to imagine a worst case scenario, and you’ll quickly realize it is not that hard to do, and that this worst case scenario is actually not so unlikely. Not unlikely enough. Imagine a frustrated Palestinian, fed up with it all, planning some terrible attack against Israeli civilians"

      you are really talking of catalyzing event, that speeds up long, ongoing removal of Palestinians from their land:

      ... Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolunionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor. ...

      And we all know, there is list as long as one's arm where Israel manufactures catalyzing events: from Lavon affair in 1954 to "looking for 3 kidnapped Israelis" in 2014 (while knowing full well they are dead) to soften public for assault Protective Edge on Gaza.

  • Netanyahu agonistes
    • You are right, of course.

      The undoing of the fundamental injustice of Nakba by allowing Palestinian refugees back is not on agenda of ANY significant left wing group in Israel.

  • Palestinians in North America: Our rent to pay
    • Palestinians in America are a tiny fraction of the population of displaced Palestinians.
      Most of Palestinians who were displaced did not get absorbed into the countries where their refugee camps are.
      If you want a motivation for this, read today's reaction of countries receiving refugee about absorbing large populations with different language, culture and religion into their mist.
      In addition, ANY Arab country that would absorb Palestinian population would, in reality, help and bear expense of the Jewish Israeli Supremacist project of ethnic cleansing.

  • 'Politico' dares to publish Ehrenreich saying occupation fosters terrorism, and 'Camera' goes haywire
    • It seems that Arabs in the first paragraph are Arab elite, like Hashemites or Sauds, and Arabs in the third paragraph are Arab masses revolting against joint occupation of their lands by British and French and aristocratic Arab collaborators.

  • 'Conquerors of Jerusalem’: March celebrates Israeli occupation with messianic fervor
    • Yonah:
      "Eva- the upshot: Helen thomas: go back to where you came from"
      You wilfully misconstrued my comment.
      What is stopping Zionists from creating new territorial demands based on their history and the bible? Why be satisfied with little, overcrowded Israel?
      Babylonian lands? Tick
      Yemen? Tick
      Lithuania? Tick
      Spain? Tick
      Et cetera, et cetera

      Give Israeli population enoug of Kahane treatment and we can look forward to Nakbas in other places.

    • I wonder what will happen if one day they will decide that Jews used to live in Lithuania and in Poland, and in Spain for that matter.
      Well, they lived there for hundreds of years and these are also the land of the old .......

      I already read that Israel is overcrowded, so maybe return to Egypt and Babylonia?

      If you think I am joking, think again - there is NO limit to fervent patriot-nationalistic hysteria

  • NY state senator wants to cut off university funds to SJP
    • They are hoping to create legislation faster then it can be challenged.

      It will be a bit like Whack-a-Mole game:

      Every time you knock something down as unconstitutional legislation will pop up somewhere else created by dishonest politician.

  • The List: Cuomo's anti-BDS executive order is a first amendment nightmare
  • Thank you, Chief Rabbi. Now I know: Judaism is to blame for the Nakba
    • Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,

      11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

      12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

      13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

      Wonder how long before those settlers who take Torah literally, will build a wee dungeons in their properties for their beautiful women captives where they are kept with shaved heads..... All according to God's will, of course (/sarcasm off).

      But hey, once you are tired of her, all is not lost, because dungeon is reusable and there is no clear prohibition to have more than one captive at the time:

      Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      "And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not deal with her as a slave, because thou hast humbled her."

    • Gamal, l love your cockney Imam!

    • I think that one interpretation, supported by Talmud, by some important Chabad Rabbi, was that non-Jewish rest of humanity is not "fully" human.....

  • The war over the meaning of the Holocaust between Netanyahu and General Golan
    • "But Mr Netanyahu you have no strategy at all. You need to stop this madness. However this ends, We are going to have to live with the Palestinians. You are slowly but surely making that impossible"

      General Golan does not understand that there is no civilised limit to Romantic Nationalism.
      He is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians" because he is an unimaginative freier (./sarcasm)

      Who exactily is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians"?. The whole political point IS to make it impossible. General Golan does not give Mr. Netanyahu brownie points for having a very clever strategy to build up, make acceptable and then harvest "madness".

      If Mr. Golan learned a little bit about Netanyahu senior, he would know that Palestinans and Jews (his word - he did not say Israelis) are like two goats facing each other on a narrow bridge, he would know that Mr. Netahyahu Junior's world view does not include accommodating Palestinians. Faced with paranoid mob in a national romantic stupor Palestinians can jump, and they can drown .

      The means are really not that important - the end result is: that they will no longer be on a bridge.

      According to Standen and Genocide Watch:

      DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres. The perpetrators of genocide (...) They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims. They block investigations of the crimes, and continue to govern until driven from power by force.

      Netanyahu is already practicing for the eight stage.

  • Chabon calls occupation 'the most grievous injustice I have ever seen in my life' and says he is 'culpable'
    • Hopmi, you said:

      "fighting a land conflict where the rhetoric was about one group replacing another in order to reverse history"

      Please could you explain what history are Jews reversing by colonising Palestinian land? Can you offer ANY historical evidence that Jews actually left Palestine ( except individually, voluntarily, to travel, to proselytise and to trade?) ?

    • Dan, you wrote:
      "The near constant use of Nazi parallels used in much of the criticism of Israel, while perhaps technically relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions, is alien, almost always off-putting and ultimately counterproductive in terms of Palestine solidarity"

      There is nothing " perhaps" or "technically" relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions. The blood curdling reality is that there are screamingly obvious Nazi parallels with reference to Israel policies and actions (and not only military!!!!). The progressive nazification of Jewish - Israeli society, unless somehow interrupted, requires more and more extreme attitudes towards non - Jews, and Palestinians in particular.

      You are right that most atrocious crimes, described in detail, are almost always off-putting. But have you noticed that it is rarely considered counterproductive to describe precipitous loss of personal freedoms and militarisation of police in USA in terms of rise of fascism?

      Why would describing Israeli domestic politics in terms of fascism ( or nazism) was any different?

  • 'Forward' columnist and Emily's List leader relate 'gigantic,' 'shocking' role of Jewish Democratic donors
    • I would be so grateful for a definition of Anti-semitism, how does it differs from racism, and why discussing facts can be offensive to anybody (they can be discomforted by facts, but that surely is another matter ).

    • Hopmi,

      You are again using Holocaust to make emotional deflection of serious argument.

      James was making a comment about Germans and Israelis

      "Zionist Israel’s “government” and “army” continue to use some of the very same tactics in occupying what remains of Palestine that were used by the Nazis against the Jews in the 1930s and 1940s"

      And you are deflecting using Holocaust no less. May I point out to you that as history repeats itself, and ordinary people are well capable of war crimes, the occupying power that behaves like Nazis may well progress to genocidal acts of Nazis.

      Nobody argues that Israel IS currently killing Palestinians at the rate of 100000 a month - this is your deflection from the argument.

      The argument is that psychological trajectory of both societies: Israel's and German's is frighteningly similar.

  • Note to Progressive Jews: The right of return is not the 'i'm-doing-you-a-favor' of return
    • Here you are, Yonah:

      "Palestinian requests for conversion rejected outright, official saysRabbi heading government’s Conversion Authority says any such applications are thrown out without even being considered"

      link to timesofisrael.com

    • hopmi,
      I don't see injustice or bigotry in idea that Jews may consider demanding their right to return to countries where their ancestors came from if the situation in Palestine were to become unstable or dangerous.
      If you allow that "right of return for Palestinians refugees is a legitimate position", surely it follows that Jews have the same right?

    • It's worth mentioning that in Israel, Palestinians are refused conversion to Judaism by definition - they cannot even initiate conversion process.

    • Hello Dona,

      Thank you so much for such thoughtful writing about the right of return.
      I am finding myself in the similar bind as many of your post Zionist friends.

      When anybody floats for idea that Ashkenazi Jews should be returning back to Europe, I automatically bristle.

      My country, Poland, has for many centuries been a host country to Jews - Some came from Germany, Some came from Russia and presumably before that, from Khazaria.
      In many small towns, villages and other population areas 25% of the population there consisted of Jews; speaking their language, having their own laws, own justice systems, own communities. They were dressing in a distinctive clothes, and were having very little interaction with the rest of the population.

      For centuries Poland was multicultural melting pot not unlike London or Brussels. Many people from many cultures were entitled to call it home.

      But then came Second World War and for three generations now Poland has been completely homogenous, 98% Catholic, uniformly white, caucasian population.

      If Israel were to face the Algerian situation ( a suitcase or a coffin choice given by natives to the colonists), and they were made to leave, many of them would be entitled to go back to Poland, from where their ancestors came from.

      I am not happy about it. I would never argue that they are not entitled to come back, but I would find it very very difficult to feel comfortable about it.

      And there is room in Poland for several million Jews, and there are synagogues still standing, kept restored by public purse....

      But would I be pleased about immigration of Israelis to Poland? No, I wouldn't.

      My sense of fairness and justice says one thing, but my gut says something completely different.

      But then nobody promised us that doing the right thing will be easy.

  • Here are 6 incidents of Islamophobia on campus in the last week
    • I propose ringing each graffiti with chalked stars of David. The plaza will be pristinely scrubbed within hours, lest graffiti hurts feelings of Jewish students, free speech be damned

  • Introducing Mondoweiss In Print: 'The World the Settlers Made'
    • Tried to buy the book, using Chrome on iPhone 6S Plus. When I pressed "Checkout" it took me to the blank page and I have to clear cookies and restart Chrome to recover the use of browser.

  • BDS Victory: Ahava moving factory out of occupied West Bank
    • Recently in Dubai (!) I found Dead Sea (spa) Magic brand of cosmetics which are produced by innocuously sounding Finders International LTD (www.findershealth.com) operating from England and run by Richard Czik. I bet you he does not purchase his Dead Sea Minerals in Jordan.

  • The occupation is over, isn't it?
  • Documentary feature 'Killing Gaza' needs your help
    • Donation made.
      Part of genocidal project is denial and blaming of victims.
      Counteracting denials is essential.

  • Jews aren't special
    • "Yup, that culture disappeared like a carton of Dannon Yogurt hit by the buckshot from a 12 gauge!"

      The remaining splatter is called "Israeli-Hebrew culture":

      Phil Weiss: More on the lousy public sculpture in Israel and its colonies

      link to mondoweiss.net

  • Video: Scenes from a bloody Sunday in Palestine
  • Barriers to love in Israel and Palestine
    • One caveat about marrying in Catholic Church: the non-catholic partner must agree that the children will be raised in catholic faith.

      Going back to Gaza: the whole idea is to separate Gaza population from the rest of the Palestinian population, and to weaken the solidarity and unity of Palestinians.

      One more point:
      I do not believe that Israeli-Palestinian citizens can marry citizens of any other country if they (spouse) is of Palestinian descent AND bring that spouse to Israel.
      Can anybody confirm/clarify this?

  • Palestinians call on Oscar nominees to reject Israel propaganda trip
  • Israeli designer eroticizes the Palestinian keffiyeh
    • Sickening and predictable. Many Jewish Israelis know so little about Palestinians and their connection to land that they cannot empathise with them on any level, and it appears that those who know, don't care a jot

  • Park Slope Food Coop puts up firewall against boycott of Israeli goods
    • http://www.JewishState.com is worth $36000.
      Guess not much value in ethno-nationalism since the second world war.

    • I give it three - four years maximum before pro BDS crowd will command 75% of votes in any progressive organisation.

      So, in Park Slope Food Coop in Brooklyn pro-Israel interested partieswon a battle, and generated the interest in the issue in otherwise PEP or DHACAP (Don't Have a Clue About Palestine) members of the collective, which ultimately will help them to loose a war.

  • Among the settlers
  • Another Netanyahu lie exposed: Hamas is not ISIS
  • The sons of Sa'ir
    • "the Zionist project is an occupation. no amount of “jewish connection” will change that. besides “jewish connection” is a modern excuse for colonialism."

      Annie, I understand, and I did not say "Zionist connection"; but there are Jews in Palestine who are second, third, fourth and fifth generation, and they are connected to Palestine by birth if not by anything else.

      They don't speak Polish, or Lithuanian, and believe me, they would not be any more welcome to those countries than Syrian refugees are.

    • Always thought of this scene when people cannot comprehend "terrorism" of Palestinians and it's origins, or origin of "terrorism" of Poles under 2 centuries long occupation of Germans and Russians:

      link to m.youtube.com

    • I know that some Palestinians see all of the Zionist project as an occupation. But many understand Jews connection to Palestine. What they don't understand, and neither do I, why Jews connection to Palestine must be expressed by subjugation of natives.

  • Why are American pro-Palestinian voices silent about the brutal war on Yemen?
    • I am struggling with very issue you are raising.
      But in response let me make few points :

      Morally, we are of use to a victim of injustice only if we have something to give, to offer. We have to choose our struggles or we will dilute ourselves to the point of being inconsequential. It's a little bit like if you will come across a battered woman and you will open your home and your heart to her and work with her to rebuild her life, but hearing then about other battered women you cannot then spread yourself thin and try to do the same for all women in the entire neighbourhood. It is very likely that nobody will have a chance to rebuild their lives.

      Practically, I am only one voice. If I can learn as much as possible on the subject, I can be a voice in an argument, a voice that some people are taking seriously. I don't claim to be an expert Palestinian conflict, but my knowledge is certainly more deep and detailed than on other conflicts in the region, and I can put forward convincing arguments, and support them with sources.

      Finally, there is a historical perspective, and historical liability. Zionism found a fertile ground between my kin and my compatriots, cohabitants of my country, citizens of my nation: Jewish Poles and Polish Jews.

  • My one word interrogation at Ben Gurion airport
    • Kathleen, I think Chomsky has global audience, and Seymour Hersh could write about Gaza to wide non-Jewish audiences.

      I think that for as long as Mondoweiss are perceived as writing mainly for Jewish audience, it's writers will be tolerated, when they will break into the mainstream, the gloves will come off.

      Norman Finkelstein expressed admiration for Hezbollah fearless resistance against Zionist occupation (he did not say he agreed with Hezbollah) - that was, I suspect, the reason for his 10 year ban.

  • New Jersey teenager threatened with legal action by high school over pro-Palestine activism (Update)
    • Thank you for another perspective on the incident. Without that insight, my view of it would have been less objective.

    • I must say, that I have a lot of positive feelings towards parents of Bethany.....
      You do not become so courageous, so aware, so able to feel other people's suffering, and so able to put oneself in other people's shoes unless you have a family background that that promotes your sense of fairness and justice, and equally very strong sense of self, and self-worth that allowed Bethany to stand her ground.

  • Suddenly, comparing Jewish state to ISIS is OK
    • Rowan, it's reasonable request, but it is unlikely that many of us would even realise that the media we posted are self starting and self repeating. An email/note to author/mondoweiss staff will be appreciated.

    • Very true - ISIS burns people to death using petrol, JSIL uses petrol and white phosphorus.

      But there are striking similarities:

      ISIS cuts people's limbs and heads using knives and machetes, JSIL uses sophisticated DIME munitions to achieve same.

      ISIS uses youths to carry it's barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them. JSIL has a national military service, and uses its youth to carry barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them.

  • US university defeated BDS by hiring three Israeli soldiers to talk up 'love' for Israel
    • "I asked before and never got an answer: why has every successive American president been unable or unwilling to stand up to the arrogance and ingratitude of this small, UN created state, which since its inception has been killing and displacing the native population in total disregard of the world condemnation, and in fact has been rewarding its crimes with billions of taxpayers’ money? "

      Google "jobs lost because of Israel Lobby in US" and "Jeremiah Wright controversy" and the destructive force of Israel Lobby and its ability to destroy people's livelihoods, jobs, prospects and futures , will become clear.

      pro-Israel Lobby removes all and any contrarian voices from the public domain before they become significant, while at the same time offering many financial (scholarships, internships etc,) to young people who can be moulded to understand that there are some points of view that are career suicides.

      Look up also "Manufactured Consent" & "limits of acceptable discourse" in writings of Noam Chomsky

  • US spying on Israel reveals cynical heart of the 'special relationship'
    • "What would happen if the Obama administration leaked to a friendly reporter (or to Mondoweiss) the story about the Israel lobby and its helpers in Congress?"

      It would be buried - it will show in small paragraph online and without comments allowed. This is a power of the Israel Lobby on MSM - the limits of acceptable conversation are set.

      BUT, with a glacial speed but also with a glacial inevitability, the Obama administration is moving the conversation about Israel Lobby into the mainstream. All sorts of red lines of the discourse have been breached, but so slowly, that the opposition has almost nothing to rally about. The progress has been spectacular, but you have to compare it decade by decade, not month by month.

  • Seething with anger and fear
    • Annie, you are right of course, it was 3 am when I wrote it, and I didn't put it well. Far from implying that Dr. Kanaaneh is not entitled to his feelings, I was referring to my flow of feelings: how ( people process adverse reactions: in order: anger, sadness, followed by fear and guilt) the plight of Palestinians affected me.
      I was paying complement to Dr. Kanaaneh's resilience, and I hope he understood it as such.

      When I said praying, I meant hoped for a least bad outcome. After outlying my fear that Israeli Society is moving towards
      " final solution to a Palestinian question" and it is step away from step 7 of Stanton's Step of Extermination. What would you have me hope for? What would you have me pray for? Did you read Dr. Kanaaneh's piece? Do you understand what reality downs on him? Do you realise what he cannot make himself say, and so he borrows other people's words to say?
      Recently, one Palestinian family, Dawabsheb, was burned alive in their home. In November 2013, family with five children, from village of Sinjil in West Bank escaped. On a scale of population, ethnic cleansing is escape from burning building, while genocide is being burned in the building.
      I am sorry that you are so angered by my wishes and prayers for Palestinians to be delivered from evil. I have always admired Dr. Kanaaneh's intellect and clarity of thinking. I hope he understands me better than you did, even if I write in shorthand.

    • Dr. Kanaaneh, are you still at the anger stage? I am well pass it. My screaming at the news, at the politicians, at the smugness of people who ask me why am I obsessing with "Jews" is so last decade.

      I don't do anger any more.

      I am pass sadness as well. I used to cry when I saw what has come to pass in Greater Israel. I used to cry when bombs were raining down on Gaza. I am well pass it.

      I don't do sadness any more.

      The emotion that I am gripped by is fear. Raw, rocking back and forth, petrified, staring at the abyss fear. The descent of Israel into a state of the nation gripped by self propelling and self propagating psychosis is fast and its relentless on its path. And there is nothing to stop it. This is a one way runaway train to genocide, and I can see it clear as day: Every step necessary to reach the point of no return is already either happened or is happening now:

      This is borrowed (abridged and annotated) from Stanton 1998:


      Genocide is a process that develops in eight stages that are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The process is not linear. Logically, later stages must be preceded by earlier stages. But all stages continue to operate throughout the process.

      1. CLASSIFICATION: Categories to distinguish people into “us and them” by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: Palestinian and Jew, Muslim and Jew,
      Check.

      2. SYMBOLIZATION: We give names or other symbols to the classifications and apply the symbols to members of groups. Jarmulka and headscarf. Yellow car number plates versus Blue car number plates. Identity card saying one is Jew, or Muslim, or Christian.
      Check

      3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals (not having soul, unlike Jews), vermin(like snakes), insects (like cockroaches)or diseases.
      Check

      4. ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of state responsibility for genocidal killings: Settlers - recently encouraged to carry arms.
      Check

      5. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may forbid intermarriage or social interaction. Extremist terrorism targets moderates, intimidating and silencing the center.
      Check. Check. Check and Check.

      6. PREPARATION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are drawn up. Victims property is expropriated. They are often segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved.
      CHECK

      7. EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human.

      8. DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims.

      What I am praying for is that the feeding of hate frenzy that is increasingly obvious even to the outsiders will result in mass expulsion and ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from Greater Israel rather than their extermination, althougth there is enough ammunition and arms (and knives!) in the hands of Settlers (militia and military) to do the job.

      I am well aware that the hate like that will not spare Jews from their killers. They will be bad Jews, self hating Jews, lefties Jews, Pal lover Jews, Pal hiding Jews aplenty to keep slaughter going a bit longer.

      I'm petrified.

      Because we already know that genocides will happen again and again. and there is one about to explode right in front of our eyes.

  • A Palestinian victim rates 23 paragraphs in 'NYT' (because he was shot by Egyptians, not Israelis)
    • The truth is that the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies now control virtually the entire mainstream news media, from The New York Times and The Washington Post to NPR and the major networks to Fox News and most of right-wing talk radio."

      - It may be truth, but by happy coincidence a very similar situation was described once already in the political satire in different century and on the different continent and as some of the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies are Jewish, the truth or not truth, the entire topic is off limits, for ever and ever, or you are Jew hating Anti-Semite who drunk the oldest hate with your mother's milk while she read you "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" in lieu of a bedtime story!.......

  • Will Israel's policies fail of their own accord?
  • Netanyahu feels complete impunity because all US politicians need 'support of Jewish community' -- former Israeli diplomat
    • I do wonder for how long would Israel maintain it's military supremacy if they did not have access to american ammunition and american spare parts for it's military hardware. I remember reading somewhere (DEBKA file?) that during operation Protective Edge Israel had to dip into American stocks of ammunition as it's own stocks became depleted ( and we are talking of 5 weeks of "war" against infinitely less well equipped Hamas partisans. If they had to produce their own ammunition, they would have to import each and every one of raw materials from outside - and only by sea or air.

  • The mainstream press can't handle anti-Zionism-- Rosengarten
  • What would Prophet Mohammad do to Trump?
    • Actually, I can see that happening:

      What may have been a sick fantasy and game play (why else is one buying lots of guns ? ) spilled over into rage and indiscriminate violence.

      One tries to justify one's actions when faced with dreadful aftermath of our actions

      "She asked for it,"
      "Her skirt was too short"
      "He looked at me funny"

      Justification is stronger, if we can persuade ourselves that we protect others with our actions:

      "They worship idols"
      "They are nothing more than cockroaches, spreading disease"
      "They want our women "
      "They hate us with the oldest hate"

      There is also a

      "I didn't really mean it"

      What I really, really, cannot understand is why REMOVE it.

  • Palestinians took over in the afternoon, at the Haaretz NIF conference
    • I agree Mooser,In the next paragraph ( swallowed by computer) I was making a point that romantic view of the past is hardly preserve of Jews - my childhood was full of stories of "inexplicable" dislike that Ukrainians feel for Polish people, and that they were wild, nomadic people who were rejecting civilising influence of Poles.

    • "What keeps us Jewish is always being on the side of the slave, never on the side of the slave-owner "

      I think this is a very romantic view of Jewish past. Just looking at 17th century only In Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine, Jews took on side of polish szlachta (nobility) who were colonising ukrainian steppes, and acted as tax collectors and absent landowner's plenipotentiaries.

    • Actually, russian was not that hard to master, belonging to a group of slavic languages...

    • Haaretz may not have the mass appeal - it is due to it's serious reporting and in-depth analysis, but it is willing to entertain the notion that Zionism is flawed and universal human rights have moral merit - something that is as rare as unicorn in mainstream media, both in Israel and in the west.

      I understand that Haaretz, like UK Guardian, is thinking of expanding its online presence globally and I am sure it will widen it's audience considerably.

      I always maintained that Israel's supremacist ethno-religious state ideology stands or falls on it's support in United States. Therefore a battle that will hasten the demise of Zionism is a battle for an american public opinion.

    • Remember days and days of memorising english irregular verbs...

  • As unrest grows, Hamas proposes controversial solution to unpaid public sector salaries
  • Roger Cohen and Jeremy Ben-Ami go on the road for the two-state solution
    • "The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine"

      Which bit is anti-semitic?

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      Which part of that statement is racist, exactly?

    • Hopmi, Are you for real?:

      "What of the Muslim argument that Muslim need not one, but 57 backup countries"

      Is this your way of arguing that Israelis can take over any European Country (Poland for example, you were living there not quite 2000 years ago) , because Polish people, greedy pigs, have many other european countries?

      Or can Israelis help themselves to Argentina, as it is a Catholic country, and Catholics have dozens of other Catholic countries to go to.

      Finally, can Israelis ethnically cleanse New Zealand (such a pleasant land....) and tell new zealanders to stop kvetching, as they have huge amount of capitalist countries to go to?

  • It is becoming ordinary for writers to speak about Palestine
    • People used to ask me, why do you use your own name on the internet - what about safety of anonymity?

      And I would find it difficult to put it to words, but I think that the impact of telling the truth is greater when we do not hide and it underlines the power of our convictions.

      I had my share of abuse, of hate mail, even elaborate pretence of supposedly a criminal investigation being carried out against me for "inciting racial hatred" (which tested my belief in impartiality of British justice system).

      But isn't it all about creating space for others to speak up about the injustice in the world? Especially when you are going against determined or dangerous opponent? Especially when it costs us our livelihood, our income, and sometimes our good name and freedom?

    • Snowballing....

      The danger is that Israel may decide that the time to get rid of Palestinians is NOW.

  • Human Rights Trump Oppression: Over 800 New Yorkers stand in solidarity with refugees and Muslims
  • Terrorism is an understandable response to west's wars in Middle East, realist and left writers say
    • Qubt saw western influence on his society and hated that. You know what?

      I look at the way Hollywood and neocons infest Poland's culture and politics, and I'm not happy at all.

      Try to wear miniskirt in some parts of Jerusalem and you will see hostile reaction.

  • Trump and Netanyahu call it off
    • I must confess to a very selfish desire:

      I would love to see Trump and Natanyahu both being in power at the same time. There is deliciously unknown quality as to which way the fight would have went when two egotistic narcissists were to try to outdo each other. It would be spectacle to behold, the fireworks would explode and Trump would have no choice but to call things like they are with Israel, Israel lobby, and pro-Israel media.

      And being who he is he would say it outright, loudly, and every attempt to shut him up would cause him to double down.

      Hell, if I am dreaming, may I also dream about Trump ordering an independent commission of enquiry into 9/11?

  • Brookings conference on 'future for Israelis and Palestinians' featured zero Palestinians
    • Being white, privileged, educated, reasonably secure and satisfied with my place in the world, I rarely, if ever feel slighted or scorned or sidelined in society I live in.

      But I do admit to ( thankfully rare) sudden flashes of intense anger when I read about this closed shop and the people inside that don't give a damn about me not due to my incorrect political views, or my insufficient economic clout, but due to incorrect ethno - religious category to which I was born to. This creates a momentary, but scarily real need to smash somebody's teeth in.

      This is as close as I can ever come to feeling like an ethnic minority at the receiving end of the ingrained discrimination, disdain, or stone cold indifference. God knows how people manage to control their emotions when they face the same attitudes ( not to mention life altering actions) day in and day out, through their entire life.

  • 'Untenable one-state reality' is taking hold, Kerry tells Israel supporters
    • If politics is an art of the possible, then lets look at the incredible change in the discourse on Israel.

      It's "democracy", it's "pluckiness" and it's occupation, it's colonial policies, it's political move towards far right national neoconservatism they are all being brought to light and unpicked thread by thread in the comments sections of the mainstream media, even as they (media) try to keep valiantly to a party line.

      The truth about Israel has breached the defences and while it may take a generation to show up in the manifesto of the upper echelons of the political greasy pole, this battle is all but won.

      All this happened during Obama administration - I know arguments that Obama could have done more - but look at what Kerry is able to say in a polite society and not be tarred and feathered and run out of town and wonder at the progress on the discourse we are having.

      The next two battles, and possibly more difficult to fight let alone win, are

      the battle where the nastiness of Israel towards its colonial subjects is accepted on a tide of xenophobia and Islamophobia, and

      the freedom of speech on the Internet is severely curtailed in a name of a common front towards common enemy (aka war on "terrorism").

  • 'Absolute scum' -- Trump's frightening speech
    • "Wait till he’s got the Republican Party nomination, if he gets it, and his anti-immigrant pitch can be expanded to go after both white blue collar workers and the African-American voters, many of whom deeply resent undocumented workers taking low-wage work, and legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above them"

      Jews are a prime example of legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above white blue collar workers and the African American voters.

      Do we really believe that you can whip up that sort of frenzied resentment and xenophobia and then control it well enough that it will NOT turn on Jews?

      At some point Trump will have to fight with Clinton. She is an establishment personified. But she is white and christian. So which section of establishment do you think would make a perfect target for a xenophobe?

      Sadly, there are no Arabists in the establishment that could be sacrificed in the public opinion war.

      Talk about powder keg.

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