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Eva Smagacz

White Knight from Britain.

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  • AIPAC underwrote Islamophobia in the Republican Party, and the Democratic Party too
    • JeffB

      "A foreign agent is someone paid by a foreign government to act on their behalf ."

      Because money have to exchange hands?
      You are deliberately trying to narrow the definition of " foreign agent"
      to prevent Israel Lobby to be recognised as having rather more than less of attributes of such agent.

      I would argue that all traitors are foreign agents, but not all foreign agents are traitors.
      It really depends where your loyalty lies and who you do not hesitate to exploit.

  • Gerald Kaufman – From Labour Zionist to Israel's bitterest critic
    • Like Theo,
      I kept going back to that speech of Gerard Kaufman in Parliament, whenever my faith in humanity was diminished. I remember dark, dark days of Cast Lead and visceral, palpable rage and impotence I was feeling.
      His words made such a difference. There was little censure about Israeli assault until this point in the public sphere.

  • Banksy's hotel isn't gentrification, it is an invitation for people to come see the occupation for what it is
    • Rory,

      You write:
      "Think of all the gay men lured to Tel Aviv by Israel’s relentless LGBT marketing campaigns who leave with the impression Israel is some kind of human rights mecca"

      Reality, of course, has nothing to do with it:


      As reported by Haaretz, Newsweek and numerous LGBT publications last year.

      Israel's propaganda about Israel all too often has little to do with reality in Israel.

  • If baseball coverage of Team Israel is 'the story of Israel itself,' then we should not forget the Palestinians
    • Maghlawatan:

      "there has never been a government minister"

      You..... you..... Anti-Semite !!!!!! (/sarcasm)
      There was!
      There WAS!!
      THERE WAS!!!

      ONE minister, ONCE, in 70 ( thats seventy ) years.

      Briefly minister of culture (or was it sport) and then made to be a minister without portfolio. His name is Rajab Majadele.

      See - one can meet Unicorns if one looks long enough. Truly Israel is a country of miracles.


  • Israel detains one activist and deports another, amid int'l outcry over boycott ban
    • "As a Christian" I am outraged that far right and increasingly fundamentalist regime in Israel presumes a right to prevent me me from visiting Holy Land based on their censure of my opinions and beliefs.

      There was (and patently is) a very good reason why Jerusalem is considered corpus separatum under the international law.

  • Michael Walzer wonders if Israel 'will let me in'
    • This is good news, although this may not feel like it for Prof. Michael Walzer.

      It requires him, and others in a similar position, (like Peter Beinart) to examine the origin, progress, aims and responses to BDS.

      When you are put, even against your will, in the same sack as other people, all of you indelibly connected by being targeted for you opinions and beliefs, you cannot but try to find out more about why they are in a sack with you.

      Possibly the first opportunity ( even if forced on them) for many pro-Israeli Jews to see the Israel from non-Zionist perspective.

  • See 'The Settlers,' an important documentary about the destruction of the two-state solution
    • RoHa, you said:

      "But the settlers have children. Those children have no choice but to be there. They, too, will suffer the “whatever”, even though they don’t deserve it. " "

      This is very true. This colonial enterprise creates dynamic for so much current and future suffering. Of course, current suffering, like that of Gaza, which population is 53% children, or West Bank is now and ongoing, and as yet unspecified future suffering of settler's children can still be mitigated by right parental choices (like parents moving to Israel inside 1947 green line).

  • The White House puts lipstick on the Muslim ban
    • What I found extremely telling, was that many people DID not applaud the idea of equality.

  • Hate crimes in America: either a trap or an opportunity for Palestine advocates
    • Any one who is surprised that xenophobia and racism spills over to include Jews, despite their considerable progress towards being recognised and considered Caucasian/White and part of the Judeo-Christian family, must have their head examined.

      It was entirely predictable.

      The gamble that some Jewish circles took, that, by stoking up Islamophobia, they will gain support and understanding for Israeli racist policies from the racist Republican right, was a bet with a very poor odds and entirely foreseeable consequences.

  • If Israel is unwilling to differentiate itself from the settlements, then boycotters shouldn't either
    • Well Catalan, if this makes you feel a bit safer for a bit longer, keep this wishful thing going.
      If privately, selfishly, people would not boycott Israeli goods, then what is the problem?

      Why do you think Israel protests so shrilly against the very idea?

  • I am a proud Palestinian woman and a humanitarian. I am also the mother of the youngest Palestinian prisoner in an Israeli jail.
    • They released him for 8th of March ( and it would be lovely to see the source of this news)
      Idea was, no doubt, so that the spearing news got cut short before the outrage people feel was to
      explode into conscience of women around the world.

      Give it a week and they will rearrest him again.

  • Dennis Ross's advice to Trump is 'bullshit, delusional or lying,' to gut two-state concept -- Peace Now
    • Funny, I only know the phrase " Thats mighty white of you" in it's latest, snarky meaning : Take your European colonial sense of moral superiority and entitlement to decide what is good for non-whites and shove it where the light don't shine...."

    • Norman Finkelstein have raised legitimate points about this outcome (one state) :

      1. This will prevent any of the refugees from being able to return to anywhere in Palestine.
      2. Zionists will be able to consider their treatment of Palestinians as a internal matter for Israel, and the international community will have less /no opportunity to allocate funds to Palestinians to redress the balance in any way.

      There are many other concerns, but these were main ones.

      I can add from myself:

      3. It will be Zionists who will decide who votes and who counts those votes.

  • Netanyahu's tweet for Trump suggests two leaders have cut a deal on Jerusalem or Iran, says former ambassador
    • There is no greater injury to narcissistic ego than having to bow to another narcissist.
      I am so looking forward (does that makes me a sadist?) to Netanyahu meeting with Trump.

      On the other hand - I am a bit scared.

      Wrong move by Netanyahu and Trump can be revengeful.
      Then the only thing that will keep Jews from being treated on par with Muslims will be Jared Kushner satisfying Ivanka Trump in his role of the husband.
      Jared Kushner in the role of biblical Esther......

  • 'Come all ye faithful' and 'Kiss my Jewish ass, Donald' -- sacred and profane mix at NY demos
    • Stogumber,
      So you think Trump is a normal person. And you assuming that people with personality disorders must be "freaks".

      There is a glaring hole in your black and white view:
      Many people with personality disorders belong to "functioning" variety. They function without the need to be committed.
      Which means that they do function in the society despite being far from normal.

      They rarely have non transactional relationships with other people.

    • No. Trump, like all narcissists, turns on charm and charisma to get admiration from people around him, but, to feel loved, he shuns and blanks out anyone he senses is not at awe of him. If he cannot remove them, he attacks them. If they make attack personal, he will carry grudge forever (or until they grovel satisfactionarily).
      Narcissism is a personality disorder sharing characteristics with psychopathy.

  • Rallies at White House and airports across the US as outrage builds over Muslim ban
  • American Jews will 'divorce' Israel if it is at peace -- Foxman
  • Obama 'betrayed' American Jews and Trump is a 'swineherd' -- Bernard-Henri Levy
    • Poor misunderstood, victimised Rabbi Yehudah (/sarcasm alert).
      Surely, allowing his pupils to mistreat a non-Jew was never, ever, a good enough reason to be in turn mistreated by a non-Jew, who, on top of having a good memory, had a chutzpah to raise above his station.
      Outrage!! Total outrage!!

  • Antisemitism and its useful idiots
    • Hi Annie, I can re-apply to join Labour Party in one year.

      I was also allowed to challenge their ruling, but couldn't be bothered. Appeal process is lengthy and by the time it were to be completed, it would have served its purpose to keep many pro-Corbin members out of leadership vote.

      It was a very crude attempt to reduce pro-Palestinian faction in "Corbin anti-Semitic Labour Party".

    • When Jeremy Corbyn became a leader of UK Labour Party, I applied for the membership and, with thousands of others, was rejected.

      The internal Labour party opposition to Corbyn was incredulous about the number of new members that his leadership attracted.

      This coincided with a witch hunt for "anti-semitism in Corbyn's Labour Party" that we now know was orchestrated by Israeli Embassy.

      So Corbyn's opponents did a background check on all pro-Corbyn new potential members ( officially to keep rif-raf, anarchists, marxists, fundamentalists, and anti-semites out).

      This also was designed and allowed them to try and gerrymander leadership elections, when Corbyn was challenged for the top spot.

      Challenge did not work: His support between rank and file is solid and growing.
      But I found myself caught in a net, and joined "rif-raf, anarchists, marxists, fundamentalists and anti-semites" who didn't get permission to join Labour Party.

      The reason were my tweets during attacks on Gaza (don't remember which one).
      I still cannot find anything racist in my tweets, but they were hostile to Israel, and that was enough.

  • It turns out Jews are as stupid as everyone else
    • Echinococcus asks:
      "Catalan (...) What is your point?

      I think Catalan specialises in Step 4 of Hasbara as defined by
      Gabriel Ash on his blog Jews sans Frontiers 8 years ago:

      Here are the steps :The case for Israel is made of four propositions that should always be presented in the correct escalating order.

      We rock
      They suck
      You suck
      Everything sucks

      That's it. Now you know everything that it took me a lifetime to learn. The rest is details; filling in the dotted lines.

      You begin by saying how great Israel is. Israel want peace; Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; the desert blooms; kibutz; Israelis invented antibiotics, the wheel, the E minor scale; thanks to the occupation Palestinians no longer live in caves; Israel liberates Arab women; Israel has the most moral army in the world, etc.

      This will win over 50% of your listeners immediately. Don't worry about the factual content. This is about brand identity, not writing a PhD. Do you really think BP is 'beyond petroleum'?

      Then you go into the second point: They suck. Here you talk about the legal system of Saudi Arabia, gay rights in Iran, slave trade in the Sudan, Mohammad Atta, the burqa, Palestinians dancing after 9/11, Arafat's facial hair, etc.

      There is only one additional principle you need to understand here. It will separate you from the amateurs. You need to know your audience. If you've got a crowd already disposed to racist logic, go for it with everything you have. But if you get a liberal crowd, you need to sugar coat the racism a bit. Focus on women rights, human rights, religious tolerance, "clash of civilizations", terrorism, they teach their children to hate, etc. Deep down your audience WANTS to enjoy racism and feel superior. They just need the proper encouragement so they can keep their sophisticated self-image. Give them what they crave and they'll adore you! But be careful not to 'mix n match,' because it will cost you credibility.

      When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

      You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc. The more the merrier. By the time you end this barrage, only a handful would be left standing. For mopping them up, you use the ultimate postmodern wisdom: Everything sucks.

      War, genocide, racism, oppression are everywhere. From the Roma in Italy to the Native-Americans in the U.S., the weak are victimized. Why pick on Israel? It's the way of the world. Look! Right is only in question between equals in power; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Ethics, schmethics. Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Eat, drink! Carpe diem! The Palestinians would throw us into the sea if they could. Ha ha!

      Trust me, that's as far as words can go. If you followed this method faithfully, you've done your work. You should leave the few who are still unconvinced to the forces of order.

      You are now ready to
      apologize for Israel like a pro.

    • "Israeli physicists of note"
      Notice that overwhelming majority of them has been educated in Russia, or had teachers, academic teachers and research colleagues who were educated in Russia.
      This little snippet of information never gets revealed.

  • Origins of a golden shower
    • Steele did not release the dossier.
      His job was to collect dirt, gossip and salacious details using his contacts in Russia.
      Which he did.
      He then submitted the dossier to M16 and FBI (or rather his client did), as these are right people to separate wheat (if there are any) from chaff.

      His company is way too small to be able to verify and fact-check such a material, and I am sure Trump's Democratic enemies who
      originally commissioned dirt digging exercise did not feel
      the need for verification.

      Most of the research (or spying) in foreign countries is about gossip, unconnected bits of information and not least, an innuendo and scandals. Those peaces of information go through a number of sieves, before grains of truth are gleaned.

      The leak of original dossier happened in USA, after FBI was given dossier for assessment and verification.

      Don't blame Steele. He did his job.

      Whoever leaked it to Guardian and Washington Post
      made sure that real impact of few damaging facts has
      been diluted by obvious rubbish.

  • Democrats' sympathy for Israel has crashed nearly 25 percent in last nine months -- Pew
    • Since Russians snookered Neo-cons with its engagement in Syria, it's handling of Ukraine, its support for detente between West and Iran, and it's ability to befriend reactionary governments in Europe, not to mention Trump, the sources of threats that would be a "nice little earner" for military industry dried up.

      This, for me, is a reason why Russia is being resurrected as an "Enemy no.1" in media, after being written off by Obama Administration as a much smaller threat than China dragon flexing it's muscles in Asia (Stephen Walt of Israel Lobby fame has a very good take on China-USA relations now and in the future).

      Obama's sanctions being put on Russia are, in my opinion, a bone thrown to neo-cons.

      Trump, of course, offered not a bone but a feast to military industry, by saying that USA's nuclear arms must be modernised, if not upgraded.

  • Israel plans to build settlement on site of Jerusalem home of Palestinian attacker
    • Israeli attack on Syria is undoubtedly a diversion. Missiles hit properties near the airport, but not airport, planes or runway itself.
      It resulted in fire (nice photo - op opportunity) but there were no casualties.

      Does anybody believe that Israeli military forces are unable to carefully choose the targets of their military strikes?

  • Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem will strengthen the far right, and may also further isolate Israel
    • Moving American Embassy to Jerusalem breaks the international law.
      Remember that Jerusalem is corpus seperatum according to the same General Assembley vote that Israel used as a base for proclaiming its creation.
      This is why people born in Jerusalem have "Jerusalem" as their place of birth and not "Jerusalem, Israel".

  • The truck attack that killed four Israeli soldiers in Jerusalem was not 'terrorism'
    • Jonathan,

      This inability to see Palestinians as fellow human beings is, for me, the most scary aspect of Jewish-Israeli racism.
      Not to mention that it is another, and essential, step that brings the majority of Israelis towards possible genocidal actions against natives. (see Stanton's Ten Stages to Genocide).

      The venom with which Zionist Jews treat Palestinians is comparable to treatment of Jews in Europe of old.

    • Thank you for this.
      I absolutely agree with your take on "terror" being used to smear resistance movements legitimate attack at the military targets. I remember this from IRA "terrorists" killing british military personnel in Ireland.

      Resistance movements (not all) are known as to use terrorist acts and perform illegal attacks at the civil targets.
      This cannot ever be morally justified.
      But if you have military personnel, or militia, donning civilian cloths, then they are still legitimate targets.

      Vast majority of targets during "Knife Intifada" is Israeli military personnel, attacked in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

      Putting forward this point of view in the comment sections of various american newspapers causes all sort of abuse, but absolutely no rebuttals on the facts of the matter.

      And I believe that the battle for american public opinion will be won in those comment sections. People who accept the "official viewpoint" will rarely know how to find contrary points of view on the internet. (they don't know that they don't know that there is more to the official story).

  • Israeli diplomat schemed to 'take down' UK's Deputy Foreign Secretary because he slammed settlements
    • Guardian is pursuing the story, but seems to be the only national newspaper that is:

      "Israeli diplomats in London issued a warning that attempts to “operate” British Jewish organisations from Jerusalem could be unlawful several months before an embassy official was caught on film talking about “taking down” MPs and setting up political groups in the UK.

      In a cable to the Israeli foreign ministry, the diplomats also cautioned that operations being run by the country’s strategic affairs ministry could be dangerous and counterproductive.

      “The strategic affairs ministry must understand that ‘operating’ organisations directly from Jerusalem by email and telephone isn’t good for their health,” warned the cable from London. “It’s not clear that the strategic affairs ministry understand the local law with regards to the activities of charities.”

      Shai Masot, an official at the Israeli embassy in London, was caught on film boasting about setting up several political organisations in the UK, whose links to Israel he had apparently tried to obscure."

      More in:

  • After Israeli soldier is convicted of manslaughter, Times and Post portray case as isolated incident
  • Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
    • I always had this urge to self-rule in Iraq, between Tigris and Euphrates rivers, where Bible says Eden was located. My name, Eva, and my religion, Christianity, make me a paid up member of "urge" brigade.

  • Resolution for 2017: Stop substituting 'the occupation' for 'Zionism'
    • Another issue that gets forgotten as we are directed to discuss Israel using Zionist parameters, is an issue of right to return.
      The double standard is very clear if you compare the attitude towards Yugoslavia refugees, and Palestinian refugees:

      This is from Annexe 7 of Dayton Peace Agreement:

      All refugees and displaced persons have the right freely to return to their homes of origin. They shall have the right to have restored to them property of which they were deprived in the course of hostilities since 1991 and to be compensated for any property that cannot be restored to them. The early return of refugees and displaced persons is an important objective of the settlement of the conflict in Bosnia and Herzegovina. The Parties confirm that they will accept the return of such persons who have left their territory, including those who have been accorded temporary protection by third countries.

      2. The Parties shall ensure that refugees and displaced persons are permitted to return in safety, without risk of harassment, intimidation, persecution, or discrimination, particularly on account of their ethnic origin, religious belief, or political opinion.

  • The NY Times attempts to isolate Kerry from Obama
    • Kerry is taking a gamble. He may be heading into the oblivion of Jimmy Carter, and become a persona non grata in any public Democratic gathering. What was missing from his speech was explanation of Israel Lobby relentless pressure on politicians and people running for office.

  • 'NY Times' trivializes UN abstention, reducing it to 'tense and tetchy' relationship between Obama and Netanyahu
  • Israel threatens to toss Antony Loewenstein after he asked Lapid question about apartheid
    • Hello Elizabeth - I profoundly disagree with you on the impropriety of "rape victim in a basement" comparison.
      I think it's a very good analogy to the situation that Palestinians find themselves in. In both cases there is complete disregard of humanity and suffering of the victim by the perpetrator, and both get off on exercising power and inflicting humiliation.

      The analogy works, because in both cases perpetrator does something that makes decent human beings recoil, and the only difference is that one perpetrator ( rapist) chooses his victim because she is of different sex, while another (Zionist) chooses his victims because they belong to incorrect ethni-religious category.

  • The lynching of Dwight Bullard
  • To resist a 'Muslim registry' we need active solidarity not symbolic gestures
    • The repeal of Patriot Act AND Citizen United is needed to prevent country from sliding into fascism. When you compare number of deaths by terrorists with number of deaths caused by forces of law and order you wonder who the real threat is.

  • Where do we go from here? Our thoughts & yours on the US election
    • I keep an open mind about the Trump - Netanyahu relationship.

      Remember this from Slate 2012?:

      Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has never worried much about what foreign dignitaries think of him. Barack Obama is certainly not the first American president to find him a tough customer. In 1996, Bill Clinton remarked privately after his first meeting with Bibi, "Who the fuck does he think he is? Who's the fucking superpower here?"

      Trump, like all narcissist is acutely tuned in into any perceived slight or luck of respect ( Now, that he is a most important person on earth, is far removed from before, from when meetings in Israel could help him with his wheeling and dealing). Netanyahu, on the other hand, is full of disdain towards America, carries his supremacist prejudice just below the surface and may not be able to hide it.

      I hope for real, long term loathing, and Trump spilling his feelings on twitter

  • Clues to the end of the world shared during final 2016 presidential debate
    • lysias,

      It really does not matter if this is four minutes or eight minutes, or even 20 minutes.
      Once the order is given, it is too late.

    • Page: 7
  • Trump could be bumpy for Jews
    • There is no magic forcefield that would protect Jews and other minorities from racism. Once you unleash racism against Muslims, there is predictable contagion from "these" minority to "those" minorities and the other minorities will be snared up in it.
      Just like McCarthy went after powerful and influential, it is given that the minorities that have in their ranks powerful and influential will be attacked with extra glee. Never underestimate racism reinforced with envy. I am concerned about the political climate that is developing.

  • France's burkini ban is a dangerous, Islamophobic assault on feminist values
  • A look at Breitbart's 'Alt-Right Lite' plan for Israel/Palestine
    • Anybody belonging to a distinct minority ( where being a distinct, "Jewish - if born to Jewish mother" bloodline/race issue is still here) that is as successful as Jews are, must have their head examined if they think white supremacists will not, in time, train their beady eyes at them and use them as a hate fodder.

  • I can't stop looking at these great Gawker posts about the Middle East
    • Being libertarian works best when you have money in the bank, and the system is sufficiently rigged that you do not have to share your money for the common good. It works less when you are old and sick and peniless and need medicare and social security like Ayn Rand did.

  • The dark secret of Israel’s stolen babies
    • Well, we had something equally evil here in Europe:

      The Lebensborn is the secret Nazi plan to kidnap children in order to “Germanize” them, creating future generations of soldiers and loyal servants to the Third Reich.
      In Poland alone, from 1940-1945, an estimated 200,000 Polish children living on the German occupied territory in Poland were forcibly taken from their families. An estimated 400,000 children were kidnapped from other parts of Europe including Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Slovenia and Yugoslavia.

      Kidnapped children were “Germanized”, meaning they were given a German name, forced to speak German, indoctrinated with Nazi ideology and forced to cut all ties with their family and former life.

      The children were given a new birth certificate, a fake genealogy, and adopted or fostered into German homes. Other children lived in institutions, state boarding schools or military camps. Younger children (ages birth to age 6) were cared for at Lebensborn homes until they could be adopted.

  • Not just financial support but inspiration: your role in advancing Mondoweiss
    • Feeling mischievous, I decided to donate again, this time to celebrate contribution Richard Witty made to this site. I think Richard did more to illustrate cognitive dissonance of Zionist Jews in America who are able to feel virtuous, consider themselves a peace builders, while dropping into polite discussion zio-truths like : ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is "currently not necessary."

  • Elie Wiesel is Dead
    • It's funny, but it really isn't - half a dozen of lies, repeated endlessly with help of the media - and a disastrous outcome for entire country.

  • Israel-splaining
  • Question for the Israeli left: Why do you discount the possibility of a second Nakba?
    • I absolutely agree that the question of genocide is not if but WHEN, and the form it will take: massacres versus population transfer.
      The fever pitch hate and self justification of Israel's Jewish population is such, that it can happen at any moment, and with the stirrings of bad blood between Lebanon and Israel that is being reported, the current government may choose a point in time that suits their internal politics and they are convinced that nothing and nobody is willing or able to stop it.

      Can you see one of the more bloodthirsty ministers in Israeli government saying something along the lines:

      "Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command – and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?"

      He will speak of Amalekites, and of Arabs, and will call death-head formation "special, dedicated IDF forces", but anyone who thinks it is not possible, let alone likely, has not been paying attention.

    • When you are writing of a

      "Just try to imagine a worst case scenario, and you’ll quickly realize it is not that hard to do, and that this worst case scenario is actually not so unlikely. Not unlikely enough. Imagine a frustrated Palestinian, fed up with it all, planning some terrible attack against Israeli civilians"

      you are really talking of catalyzing event, that speeds up long, ongoing removal of Palestinians from their land:

      ... Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolunionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor. ...

      And we all know, there is list as long as one's arm where Israel manufactures catalyzing events: from Lavon affair in 1954 to "looking for 3 kidnapped Israelis" in 2014 (while knowing full well they are dead) to soften public for assault Protective Edge on Gaza.

  • Netanyahu agonistes
    • You are right, of course.

      The undoing of the fundamental injustice of Nakba by allowing Palestinian refugees back is not on agenda of ANY significant left wing group in Israel.

  • Palestinians in North America: Our rent to pay
    • Palestinians in America are a tiny fraction of the population of displaced Palestinians.
      Most of Palestinians who were displaced did not get absorbed into the countries where their refugee camps are.
      If you want a motivation for this, read today's reaction of countries receiving refugee about absorbing large populations with different language, culture and religion into their mist.
      In addition, ANY Arab country that would absorb Palestinian population would, in reality, help and bear expense of the Jewish Israeli Supremacist project of ethnic cleansing.

  • 'Politico' dares to publish Ehrenreich saying occupation fosters terrorism, and 'Camera' goes haywire
    • It seems that Arabs in the first paragraph are Arab elite, like Hashemites or Sauds, and Arabs in the third paragraph are Arab masses revolting against joint occupation of their lands by British and French and aristocratic Arab collaborators.

  • 'Conquerors of Jerusalem’: March celebrates Israeli occupation with messianic fervor
    • Yonah:
      "Eva- the upshot: Helen thomas: go back to where you came from"
      You wilfully misconstrued my comment.
      What is stopping Zionists from creating new territorial demands based on their history and the bible? Why be satisfied with little, overcrowded Israel?
      Babylonian lands? Tick
      Yemen? Tick
      Lithuania? Tick
      Spain? Tick
      Et cetera, et cetera

      Give Israeli population enoug of Kahane treatment and we can look forward to Nakbas in other places.

    • I wonder what will happen if one day they will decide that Jews used to live in Lithuania and in Poland, and in Spain for that matter.
      Well, they lived there for hundreds of years and these are also the land of the old .......

      I already read that Israel is overcrowded, so maybe return to Egypt and Babylonia?

      If you think I am joking, think again - there is NO limit to fervent patriot-nationalistic hysteria

  • NY state senator wants to cut off university funds to SJP
    • They are hoping to create legislation faster then it can be challenged.

      It will be a bit like Whack-a-Mole game:

      Every time you knock something down as unconstitutional legislation will pop up somewhere else created by dishonest politician.

  • The List: Cuomo's anti-BDS executive order is a first amendment nightmare
  • Thank you, Chief Rabbi. Now I know: Judaism is to blame for the Nakba
    • Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,

      11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;

      12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

      13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

      Wonder how long before those settlers who take Torah literally, will build a wee dungeons in their properties for their beautiful women captives where they are kept with shaved heads..... All according to God's will, of course (/sarcasm off).

      But hey, once you are tired of her, all is not lost, because dungeon is reusable and there is no clear prohibition to have more than one captive at the time:

      Deuteronomy 21:10-13King James Version (KJV)

      "And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not deal with her as a slave, because thou hast humbled her."

    • Gamal, l love your cockney Imam!

    • I think that one interpretation, supported by Talmud, by some important Chabad Rabbi, was that non-Jewish rest of humanity is not "fully" human.....

  • The war over the meaning of the Holocaust between Netanyahu and General Golan
    • "But Mr Netanyahu you have no strategy at all. You need to stop this madness. However this ends, We are going to have to live with the Palestinians. You are slowly but surely making that impossible"

      General Golan does not understand that there is no civilised limit to Romantic Nationalism.
      He is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians" because he is an unimaginative freier (./sarcasm)

      Who exactily is saying that "we are going to live with the Palestinians"?. The whole political point IS to make it impossible. General Golan does not give Mr. Netanyahu brownie points for having a very clever strategy to build up, make acceptable and then harvest "madness".

      If Mr. Golan learned a little bit about Netanyahu senior, he would know that Palestinans and Jews (his word - he did not say Israelis) are like two goats facing each other on a narrow bridge, he would know that Mr. Netahyahu Junior's world view does not include accommodating Palestinians. Faced with paranoid mob in a national romantic stupor Palestinians can jump, and they can drown .

      The means are really not that important - the end result is: that they will no longer be on a bridge.

      According to Standen and Genocide Watch:

      DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres. The perpetrators of genocide (...) They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims. They block investigations of the crimes, and continue to govern until driven from power by force.

      Netanyahu is already practicing for the eight stage.

  • Chabon calls occupation 'the most grievous injustice I have ever seen in my life' and says he is 'culpable'
    • Hopmi, you said:

      "fighting a land conflict where the rhetoric was about one group replacing another in order to reverse history"

      Please could you explain what history are Jews reversing by colonising Palestinian land? Can you offer ANY historical evidence that Jews actually left Palestine ( except individually, voluntarily, to travel, to proselytise and to trade?) ?

    • Dan, you wrote:
      "The near constant use of Nazi parallels used in much of the criticism of Israel, while perhaps technically relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions, is alien, almost always off-putting and ultimately counterproductive in terms of Palestine solidarity"

      There is nothing " perhaps" or "technically" relevant with reference to Israeli military policies and actions. The blood curdling reality is that there are screamingly obvious Nazi parallels with reference to Israel policies and actions (and not only military!!!!). The progressive nazification of Jewish - Israeli society, unless somehow interrupted, requires more and more extreme attitudes towards non - Jews, and Palestinians in particular.

      You are right that most atrocious crimes, described in detail, are almost always off-putting. But have you noticed that it is rarely considered counterproductive to describe precipitous loss of personal freedoms and militarisation of police in USA in terms of rise of fascism?

      Why would describing Israeli domestic politics in terms of fascism ( or nazism) was any different?

  • 'Forward' columnist and Emily's List leader relate 'gigantic,' 'shocking' role of Jewish Democratic donors
    • I would be so grateful for a definition of Anti-semitism, how does it differs from racism, and why discussing facts can be offensive to anybody (they can be discomforted by facts, but that surely is another matter ).

    • Hopmi,

      You are again using Holocaust to make emotional deflection of serious argument.

      James was making a comment about Germans and Israelis

      "Zionist Israel’s “government” and “army” continue to use some of the very same tactics in occupying what remains of Palestine that were used by the Nazis against the Jews in the 1930s and 1940s"

      And you are deflecting using Holocaust no less. May I point out to you that as history repeats itself, and ordinary people are well capable of war crimes, the occupying power that behaves like Nazis may well progress to genocidal acts of Nazis.

      Nobody argues that Israel IS currently killing Palestinians at the rate of 100000 a month - this is your deflection from the argument.

      The argument is that psychological trajectory of both societies: Israel's and German's is frighteningly similar.

  • Note to Progressive Jews: The right of return is not the 'i'm-doing-you-a-favor' of return
    • Here you are, Yonah:

      "Palestinian requests for conversion rejected outright, official saysRabbi heading government’s Conversion Authority says any such applications are thrown out without even being considered"

    • hopmi,
      I don't see injustice or bigotry in idea that Jews may consider demanding their right to return to countries where their ancestors came from if the situation in Palestine were to become unstable or dangerous.
      If you allow that "right of return for Palestinians refugees is a legitimate position", surely it follows that Jews have the same right?

    • It's worth mentioning that in Israel, Palestinians are refused conversion to Judaism by definition - they cannot even initiate conversion process.

    • Hello Dona,

      Thank you so much for such thoughtful writing about the right of return.
      I am finding myself in the similar bind as many of your post Zionist friends.

      When anybody floats for idea that Ashkenazi Jews should be returning back to Europe, I automatically bristle.

      My country, Poland, has for many centuries been a host country to Jews - Some came from Germany, Some came from Russia and presumably before that, from Khazaria.
      In many small towns, villages and other population areas 25% of the population there consisted of Jews; speaking their language, having their own laws, own justice systems, own communities. They were dressing in a distinctive clothes, and were having very little interaction with the rest of the population.

      For centuries Poland was multicultural melting pot not unlike London or Brussels. Many people from many cultures were entitled to call it home.

      But then came Second World War and for three generations now Poland has been completely homogenous, 98% Catholic, uniformly white, caucasian population.

      If Israel were to face the Algerian situation ( a suitcase or a coffin choice given by natives to the colonists), and they were made to leave, many of them would be entitled to go back to Poland, from where their ancestors came from.

      I am not happy about it. I would never argue that they are not entitled to come back, but I would find it very very difficult to feel comfortable about it.

      And there is room in Poland for several million Jews, and there are synagogues still standing, kept restored by public purse....

      But would I be pleased about immigration of Israelis to Poland? No, I wouldn't.

      My sense of fairness and justice says one thing, but my gut says something completely different.

      But then nobody promised us that doing the right thing will be easy.

  • Here are 6 incidents of Islamophobia on campus in the last week
    • I propose ringing each graffiti with chalked stars of David. The plaza will be pristinely scrubbed within hours, lest graffiti hurts feelings of Jewish students, free speech be damned

  • Introducing Mondoweiss In Print: 'The World the Settlers Made'
    • Tried to buy the book, using Chrome on iPhone 6S Plus. When I pressed "Checkout" it took me to the blank page and I have to clear cookies and restart Chrome to recover the use of browser.

  • BDS Victory: Ahava moving factory out of occupied West Bank
    • Recently in Dubai (!) I found Dead Sea (spa) Magic brand of cosmetics which are produced by innocuously sounding Finders International LTD ( operating from England and run by Richard Czik. I bet you he does not purchase his Dead Sea Minerals in Jordan.

  • The occupation is over, isn't it?
  • Documentary feature 'Killing Gaza' needs your help
    • Donation made.
      Part of genocidal project is denial and blaming of victims.
      Counteracting denials is essential.

  • Jews aren't special
  • Video: Scenes from a bloody Sunday in Palestine
  • Barriers to love in Israel and Palestine
    • One caveat about marrying in Catholic Church: the non-catholic partner must agree that the children will be raised in catholic faith.

      Going back to Gaza: the whole idea is to separate Gaza population from the rest of the Palestinian population, and to weaken the solidarity and unity of Palestinians.

      One more point:
      I do not believe that Israeli-Palestinian citizens can marry citizens of any other country if they (spouse) is of Palestinian descent AND bring that spouse to Israel.
      Can anybody confirm/clarify this?

  • Palestinians call on Oscar nominees to reject Israel propaganda trip
  • Israeli designer eroticizes the Palestinian keffiyeh
    • Sickening and predictable. Many Jewish Israelis know so little about Palestinians and their connection to land that they cannot empathise with them on any level, and it appears that those who know, don't care a jot

  • Park Slope Food Coop puts up firewall against boycott of Israeli goods
    • is worth $36000.
      Guess not much value in ethno-nationalism since the second world war.

    • I give it three - four years maximum before pro BDS crowd will command 75% of votes in any progressive organisation.

      So, in Park Slope Food Coop in Brooklyn pro-Israel interested partieswon a battle, and generated the interest in the issue in otherwise PEP or DHACAP (Don't Have a Clue About Palestine) members of the collective, which ultimately will help them to loose a war.

  • Among the settlers
  • Another Netanyahu lie exposed: Hamas is not ISIS
  • The sons of Sa'ir
    • "the Zionist project is an occupation. no amount of “jewish connection” will change that. besides “jewish connection” is a modern excuse for colonialism."

      Annie, I understand, and I did not say "Zionist connection"; but there are Jews in Palestine who are second, third, fourth and fifth generation, and they are connected to Palestine by birth if not by anything else.

      They don't speak Polish, or Lithuanian, and believe me, they would not be any more welcome to those countries than Syrian refugees are.

    • Always thought of this scene when people cannot comprehend "terrorism" of Palestinians and it's origins, or origin of "terrorism" of Poles under 2 centuries long occupation of Germans and Russians:

    • I know that some Palestinians see all of the Zionist project as an occupation. But many understand Jews connection to Palestine. What they don't understand, and neither do I, why Jews connection to Palestine must be expressed by subjugation of natives.

  • Why are American pro-Palestinian voices silent about the brutal war on Yemen?
    • I am struggling with very issue you are raising.
      But in response let me make few points :

      Morally, we are of use to a victim of injustice only if we have something to give, to offer. We have to choose our struggles or we will dilute ourselves to the point of being inconsequential. It's a little bit like if you will come across a battered woman and you will open your home and your heart to her and work with her to rebuild her life, but hearing then about other battered women you cannot then spread yourself thin and try to do the same for all women in the entire neighbourhood. It is very likely that nobody will have a chance to rebuild their lives.

      Practically, I am only one voice. If I can learn as much as possible on the subject, I can be a voice in an argument, a voice that some people are taking seriously. I don't claim to be an expert Palestinian conflict, but my knowledge is certainly more deep and detailed than on other conflicts in the region, and I can put forward convincing arguments, and support them with sources.

      Finally, there is a historical perspective, and historical liability. Zionism found a fertile ground between my kin and my compatriots, cohabitants of my country, citizens of my nation: Jewish Poles and Polish Jews.

  • My one word interrogation at Ben Gurion airport
    • Kathleen, I think Chomsky has global audience, and Seymour Hersh could write about Gaza to wide non-Jewish audiences.

      I think that for as long as Mondoweiss are perceived as writing mainly for Jewish audience, it's writers will be tolerated, when they will break into the mainstream, the gloves will come off.

      Norman Finkelstein expressed admiration for Hezbollah fearless resistance against Zionist occupation (he did not say he agreed with Hezbollah) - that was, I suspect, the reason for his 10 year ban.

  • New Jersey teenager threatened with legal action by high school over pro-Palestine activism (Update)
    • Thank you for another perspective on the incident. Without that insight, my view of it would have been less objective.

    • I must say, that I have a lot of positive feelings towards parents of Bethany.....
      You do not become so courageous, so aware, so able to feel other people's suffering, and so able to put oneself in other people's shoes unless you have a family background that that promotes your sense of fairness and justice, and equally very strong sense of self, and self-worth that allowed Bethany to stand her ground.

  • Suddenly, comparing Jewish state to ISIS is OK
    • Rowan, it's reasonable request, but it is unlikely that many of us would even realise that the media we posted are self starting and self repeating. An email/note to author/mondoweiss staff will be appreciated.

    • Very true - ISIS burns people to death using petrol, JSIL uses petrol and white phosphorus.

      But there are striking similarities:

      ISIS cuts people's limbs and heads using knives and machetes, JSIL uses sophisticated DIME munitions to achieve same.

      ISIS uses youths to carry it's barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them. JSIL has a national military service, and uses its youth to carry barbaric attacks, to desensitise them, and to brain wash them.

  • US university defeated BDS by hiring three Israeli soldiers to talk up 'love' for Israel
    • "I asked before and never got an answer: why has every successive American president been unable or unwilling to stand up to the arrogance and ingratitude of this small, UN created state, which since its inception has been killing and displacing the native population in total disregard of the world condemnation, and in fact has been rewarding its crimes with billions of taxpayers’ money? "

      Google "jobs lost because of Israel Lobby in US" and "Jeremiah Wright controversy" and the destructive force of Israel Lobby and its ability to destroy people's livelihoods, jobs, prospects and futures , will become clear.

      pro-Israel Lobby removes all and any contrarian voices from the public domain before they become significant, while at the same time offering many financial (scholarships, internships etc,) to young people who can be moulded to understand that there are some points of view that are career suicides.

      Look up also "Manufactured Consent" & "limits of acceptable discourse" in writings of Noam Chomsky

  • US spying on Israel reveals cynical heart of the 'special relationship'
    • "What would happen if the Obama administration leaked to a friendly reporter (or to Mondoweiss) the story about the Israel lobby and its helpers in Congress?"

      It would be buried - it will show in small paragraph online and without comments allowed. This is a power of the Israel Lobby on MSM - the limits of acceptable conversation are set.

      BUT, with a glacial speed but also with a glacial inevitability, the Obama administration is moving the conversation about Israel Lobby into the mainstream. All sorts of red lines of the discourse have been breached, but so slowly, that the opposition has almost nothing to rally about. The progress has been spectacular, but you have to compare it decade by decade, not month by month.

  • Seething with anger and fear
    • Annie, you are right of course, it was 3 am when I wrote it, and I didn't put it well. Far from implying that Dr. Kanaaneh is not entitled to his feelings, I was referring to my flow of feelings: how ( people process adverse reactions: in order: anger, sadness, followed by fear and guilt) the plight of Palestinians affected me.
      I was paying complement to Dr. Kanaaneh's resilience, and I hope he understood it as such.

      When I said praying, I meant hoped for a least bad outcome. After outlying my fear that Israeli Society is moving towards
      " final solution to a Palestinian question" and it is step away from step 7 of Stanton's Step of Extermination. What would you have me hope for? What would you have me pray for? Did you read Dr. Kanaaneh's piece? Do you understand what reality downs on him? Do you realise what he cannot make himself say, and so he borrows other people's words to say?
      Recently, one Palestinian family, Dawabsheb, was burned alive in their home. In November 2013, family with five children, from village of Sinjil in West Bank escaped. On a scale of population, ethnic cleansing is escape from burning building, while genocide is being burned in the building.
      I am sorry that you are so angered by my wishes and prayers for Palestinians to be delivered from evil. I have always admired Dr. Kanaaneh's intellect and clarity of thinking. I hope he understands me better than you did, even if I write in shorthand.

    • Dr. Kanaaneh, are you still at the anger stage? I am well pass it. My screaming at the news, at the politicians, at the smugness of people who ask me why am I obsessing with "Jews" is so last decade.

      I don't do anger any more.

      I am pass sadness as well. I used to cry when I saw what has come to pass in Greater Israel. I used to cry when bombs were raining down on Gaza. I am well pass it.

      I don't do sadness any more.

      The emotion that I am gripped by is fear. Raw, rocking back and forth, petrified, staring at the abyss fear. The descent of Israel into a state of the nation gripped by self propelling and self propagating psychosis is fast and its relentless on its path. And there is nothing to stop it. This is a one way runaway train to genocide, and I can see it clear as day: Every step necessary to reach the point of no return is already either happened or is happening now:

      This is borrowed (abridged and annotated) from Stanton 1998:

      Genocide is a process that develops in eight stages that are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The process is not linear. Logically, later stages must be preceded by earlier stages. But all stages continue to operate throughout the process.

      1. CLASSIFICATION: Categories to distinguish people into “us and them” by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: Palestinian and Jew, Muslim and Jew,

      2. SYMBOLIZATION: We give names or other symbols to the classifications and apply the symbols to members of groups. Jarmulka and headscarf. Yellow car number plates versus Blue car number plates. Identity card saying one is Jew, or Muslim, or Christian.

      3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals (not having soul, unlike Jews), vermin(like snakes), insects (like cockroaches)or diseases.

      4. ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of state responsibility for genocidal killings: Settlers - recently encouraged to carry arms.

      5. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may forbid intermarriage or social interaction. Extremist terrorism targets moderates, intimidating and silencing the center.
      Check. Check. Check and Check.

      6. PREPARATION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are drawn up. Victims property is expropriated. They are often segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved.

      7. EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human.

      8. DENIAL is the eighth stage that always follows a genocide. They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims.

      What I am praying for is that the feeding of hate frenzy that is increasingly obvious even to the outsiders will result in mass expulsion and ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from Greater Israel rather than their extermination, althougth there is enough ammunition and arms (and knives!) in the hands of Settlers (militia and military) to do the job.

      I am well aware that the hate like that will not spare Jews from their killers. They will be bad Jews, self hating Jews, lefties Jews, Pal lover Jews, Pal hiding Jews aplenty to keep slaughter going a bit longer.

      I'm petrified.

      Because we already know that genocides will happen again and again. and there is one about to explode right in front of our eyes.

  • A Palestinian victim rates 23 paragraphs in 'NYT' (because he was shot by Egyptians, not Israelis)
    • The truth is that the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies now control virtually the entire mainstream news media, from The New York Times and The Washington Post to NPR and the major networks to Fox News and most of right-wing talk radio."

      - It may be truth, but by happy coincidence a very similar situation was described once already in the political satire in different century and on the different continent and as some of the neocons and their liberal-hawk allies are Jewish, the truth or not truth, the entire topic is off limits, for ever and ever, or you are Jew hating Anti-Semite who drunk the oldest hate with your mother's milk while she read you "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" in lieu of a bedtime story!.......

  • Will Israel's policies fail of their own accord?
  • Netanyahu feels complete impunity because all US politicians need 'support of Jewish community' -- former Israeli diplomat
    • I do wonder for how long would Israel maintain it's military supremacy if they did not have access to american ammunition and american spare parts for it's military hardware. I remember reading somewhere (DEBKA file?) that during operation Protective Edge Israel had to dip into American stocks of ammunition as it's own stocks became depleted ( and we are talking of 5 weeks of "war" against infinitely less well equipped Hamas partisans. If they had to produce their own ammunition, they would have to import each and every one of raw materials from outside - and only by sea or air.

  • The mainstream press can't handle anti-Zionism-- Rosengarten
  • What would Prophet Mohammad do to Trump?
    • Actually, I can see that happening:

      What may have been a sick fantasy and game play (why else is one buying lots of guns ? ) spilled over into rage and indiscriminate violence.

      One tries to justify one's actions when faced with dreadful aftermath of our actions

      "She asked for it,"
      "Her skirt was too short"
      "He looked at me funny"

      Justification is stronger, if we can persuade ourselves that we protect others with our actions:

      "They worship idols"
      "They are nothing more than cockroaches, spreading disease"
      "They want our women "
      "They hate us with the oldest hate"

      There is also a

      "I didn't really mean it"

      What I really, really, cannot understand is why REMOVE it.

  • Palestinians took over in the afternoon, at the Haaretz NIF conference
    • I agree Mooser,In the next paragraph ( swallowed by computer) I was making a point that romantic view of the past is hardly preserve of Jews - my childhood was full of stories of "inexplicable" dislike that Ukrainians feel for Polish people, and that they were wild, nomadic people who were rejecting civilising influence of Poles.

    • "What keeps us Jewish is always being on the side of the slave, never on the side of the slave-owner "

      I think this is a very romantic view of Jewish past. Just looking at 17th century only In Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine, Jews took on side of polish szlachta (nobility) who were colonising ukrainian steppes, and acted as tax collectors and absent landowner's plenipotentiaries.

    • Actually, russian was not that hard to master, belonging to a group of slavic languages...

    • Haaretz may not have the mass appeal - it is due to it's serious reporting and in-depth analysis, but it is willing to entertain the notion that Zionism is flawed and universal human rights have moral merit - something that is as rare as unicorn in mainstream media, both in Israel and in the west.

      I understand that Haaretz, like UK Guardian, is thinking of expanding its online presence globally and I am sure it will widen it's audience considerably.

      I always maintained that Israel's supremacist ethno-religious state ideology stands or falls on it's support in United States. Therefore a battle that will hasten the demise of Zionism is a battle for an american public opinion.

    • Remember days and days of memorising english irregular verbs...

  • As unrest grows, Hamas proposes controversial solution to unpaid public sector salaries
  • Roger Cohen and Jeremy Ben-Ami go on the road for the two-state solution
    • "The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine"

      Which bit is anti-semitic?

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine.

      Which part of that statement is racist, exactly?

    • Hopmi, Are you for real?:

      "What of the Muslim argument that Muslim need not one, but 57 backup countries"

      Is this your way of arguing that Israelis can take over any European Country (Poland for example, you were living there not quite 2000 years ago) , because Polish people, greedy pigs, have many other european countries?

      Or can Israelis help themselves to Argentina, as it is a Catholic country, and Catholics have dozens of other Catholic countries to go to.

      Finally, can Israelis ethnically cleanse New Zealand (such a pleasant land....) and tell new zealanders to stop kvetching, as they have huge amount of capitalist countries to go to?

  • It is becoming ordinary for writers to speak about Palestine
    • People used to ask me, why do you use your own name on the internet - what about safety of anonymity?

      And I would find it difficult to put it to words, but I think that the impact of telling the truth is greater when we do not hide and it underlines the power of our convictions.

      I had my share of abuse, of hate mail, even elaborate pretence of supposedly a criminal investigation being carried out against me for "inciting racial hatred" (which tested my belief in impartiality of British justice system).

      But isn't it all about creating space for others to speak up about the injustice in the world? Especially when you are going against determined or dangerous opponent? Especially when it costs us our livelihood, our income, and sometimes our good name and freedom?

    • Snowballing....

      The danger is that Israel may decide that the time to get rid of Palestinians is NOW.

  • Human Rights Trump Oppression: Over 800 New Yorkers stand in solidarity with refugees and Muslims
  • Terrorism is an understandable response to west's wars in Middle East, realist and left writers say
    • Qubt saw western influence on his society and hated that. You know what?

      I look at the way Hollywood and neocons infest Poland's culture and politics, and I'm not happy at all.

      Try to wear miniskirt in some parts of Jerusalem and you will see hostile reaction.

  • Trump and Netanyahu call it off
    • I must confess to a very selfish desire:

      I would love to see Trump and Natanyahu both being in power at the same time. There is deliciously unknown quality as to which way the fight would have went when two egotistic narcissists were to try to outdo each other. It would be spectacle to behold, the fireworks would explode and Trump would have no choice but to call things like they are with Israel, Israel lobby, and pro-Israel media.

      And being who he is he would say it outright, loudly, and every attempt to shut him up would cause him to double down.

      Hell, if I am dreaming, may I also dream about Trump ordering an independent commission of enquiry into 9/11?

  • Brookings conference on 'future for Israelis and Palestinians' featured zero Palestinians
    • Being white, privileged, educated, reasonably secure and satisfied with my place in the world, I rarely, if ever feel slighted or scorned or sidelined in society I live in.

      But I do admit to ( thankfully rare) sudden flashes of intense anger when I read about this closed shop and the people inside that don't give a damn about me not due to my incorrect political views, or my insufficient economic clout, but due to incorrect ethno - religious category to which I was born to. This creates a momentary, but scarily real need to smash somebody's teeth in.

      This is as close as I can ever come to feeling like an ethnic minority at the receiving end of the ingrained discrimination, disdain, or stone cold indifference. God knows how people manage to control their emotions when they face the same attitudes ( not to mention life altering actions) day in and day out, through their entire life.

  • 'Untenable one-state reality' is taking hold, Kerry tells Israel supporters
    • If politics is an art of the possible, then lets look at the incredible change in the discourse on Israel.

      It's "democracy", it's "pluckiness" and it's occupation, it's colonial policies, it's political move towards far right national neoconservatism they are all being brought to light and unpicked thread by thread in the comments sections of the mainstream media, even as they (media) try to keep valiantly to a party line.

      The truth about Israel has breached the defences and while it may take a generation to show up in the manifesto of the upper echelons of the political greasy pole, this battle is all but won.

      All this happened during Obama administration - I know arguments that Obama could have done more - but look at what Kerry is able to say in a polite society and not be tarred and feathered and run out of town and wonder at the progress on the discourse we are having.

      The next two battles, and possibly more difficult to fight let alone win, are

      the battle where the nastiness of Israel towards its colonial subjects is accepted on a tide of xenophobia and Islamophobia, and

      the freedom of speech on the Internet is severely curtailed in a name of a common front towards common enemy (aka war on "terrorism").

  • 'Absolute scum' -- Trump's frightening speech
    • "Wait till he’s got the Republican Party nomination, if he gets it, and his anti-immigrant pitch can be expanded to go after both white blue collar workers and the African-American voters, many of whom deeply resent undocumented workers taking low-wage work, and legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above them"

      Jews are a prime example of legal immigrants climbing the economic ladder above white blue collar workers and the African American voters.

      Do we really believe that you can whip up that sort of frenzied resentment and xenophobia and then control it well enough that it will NOT turn on Jews?

      At some point Trump will have to fight with Clinton. She is an establishment personified. But she is white and christian. So which section of establishment do you think would make a perfect target for a xenophobe?

      Sadly, there are no Arabists in the establishment that could be sacrificed in the public opinion war.

      Talk about powder keg.

  • Elliott Abrams wants John Kerry to STFU about Palestine
    • DaBakr asks "so what was it about before ’67?"

      a. Before 1967 it was about Palestinian-Israelis but not Jewish-Israelis living under martial law in Israel (being of incorrect ethno - religious category) and

      b.about ethnic cleansing of 750000 natives from Palestine, and

      c.about Israel land grab over and above the land that they were given by United Nations, which was land that they accepted when they proclaimed Independence, and

      d. Naked colonial enterprise by World Zionist Council and Jewish Colonial Fund (later known as Jewish National Fund) in Palestine from the end of eighteen century dreamed up by likes of Theodor Herzl, and Vladimir Jabotinsky, who wrote the following;

      "There can be no voluntary agreement between ourselves and the Palestine Arabs. Not now, nor in the prospective future. I say this with such conviction, not because I want to hurt the moderate Zionists. I do not believe that they will be hurt. Except for those who were born blind, they realised long ago that it is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting "Palestine" from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority.

      My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent.

      The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage."

    • Beat me to it, Amigo!

  • Palestinian man 'killed in cold blood' on day that claims 4 Palestinian lives
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  • Why Rabbi Susan Talve was called a 'real terrorist' by St Louis activists
    • "If I am not mistaken, US law can put you in jail for so much as looking at the wrong website, or being the wrong person’s lawyer. Or sending money to the wrong charity.

      I would add Don Siegelman to your list, Mooser.

      There was a communist saying "show me the man, and the paragraph [in criminal law] can always be found".

  • Taking on jihadists without taking on racism is a lost battle
    • I must disagree with the premise of the book. Muslim brotherhood is socially and religiously conservative Sunni Islam movement, but it is neither violent not fundamentalist in its outlook.

      CIA supported Muslim Brotherhood because it needed it as a counterbalance to pro-Soviet and non-religious Egyptian government.

      CIA supported Afghanistan's mujahideen but Muslim brotherhood did not have, and does not have to this day,an aggressive, fundamentalist streak that would provide an expensive motivation to fight non religious Soviet Union .

      On the other hand, Saudi Arabia's Wahhabis were all in. They really and truly believe that they must recreate God's order on this Earth. They are true Zealots, and they have enormous quantity of money to spread their peculiar take on the religion. They are scary, they are fanatical, and they take the word of God literally. They are responsible for rise of Taliban, al-Quida and ISIS.

      In order to destroy the reputation of Hezbollah and Hamas in the western world eyes, "the fact had been fitted around the policy" :Hamas and Hezbollah have to be painted as mindless fundamentalist religeous crazies - It is just to dangerous that some may notice that these are resistance movements.

      So OF COURSE they are painted as similar/ideologically related to Taliban and Al Qaeda and ISIS. (do you remember yellowcake and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? - it's exactly the same propaganda technique )

      But the stubborn fact is that Hamas has grown out of the Muslim Brotherhood Ideals of how to create a pious society, while Hezbollah's religious roots are Shia. Both are grassroots organisations with a very strong resistance to Israeli occupation identity.

  • On #GivingTuesday, meet our new Development Director
    • In the first photo, the outfit surely came first. In the second photo the spectacles came first .
      Elementary, my dear Watson.

      ( although, there are many other blogs about sartorial advice, that do it much better than Mondoweiss)

    • I agree with you wholeheartedly Boris. There are many things about zionism in and out of Israel that induces vomit. Hophmi should take your advice.

  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
    • I understand your fear, Moser!

      Especially taking into the account the building codes have not been changed despite the collapse of building 7.

      On a separate note I remember reading this article, and it states perfectly adequately, as far as I'm concerned, why building 7, despite collapsing so mysteriously, has not provoked any worries about weakness in the commonly used methods, materials and techniques in building of sky rises in the western world.

      SEC & EEOC:
      Attack Delays Investigations

      By Margaret Cronin Fisk
      National Law Journal
      September 17, 2001

      Additional details emerged Friday about the effect of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center on investigations being conducted by the New York offices of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, both of which were housed in the building.

      The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom.

      The EEOC said documents from about 45 active cases were missing and could not be easily retrieved from any backup system. One of these cases was a sexual harassment charge filed on Sept. 10 against Morgan Stanley, one of the prime corporate victims of the World Trade Center disaster.

      A statement from the commission said that "we are confident that we will not lose any significant investigation or case as a result of the loss of our building in New York. No one whom we have sued or whose conduct we have been investigating should doubt our resolve to continue our pursuit of justice in every such matters."

      But the short-term problems will be immense, said Gregory Joseph of New York's Law Offices of Gregory Joseph.

      "Court papers can largely be reconstituted, but work product has to be reconstructed," he said. "This will cause delays in court and will require significant reduplication of effort." Some data, he added, "won't be recreatable."

      "Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."

      "The SEC will have some difficulty, but the bounce-back will come relatively easily," predicts Harvey Goldschmid, Dwight professor of law at Columbia University and former general counsel of the SEC. "It will throw things off for a period of time, but most of what's important can be regained. They will have to reconstruct these documents. But most of this was backed up or in Washington. They've lost some transcripts but even they're available."

      EEOC Records Destroyed

      The EEOC's New York office, which was housed in 7 World Trade Center, sustained no loss of life. But all the agency's records were destroyed.

      Many of the files are backed up in the computer system, but a substantial number of documents are simply gone, said Spencer Lewis, the EEOC district director. Depositions and notes were not scanned into computers and are lost. With depositions and interviews, the agency will be contacting court reporters "and hoping that they've got them so we can reconstruct files," Lewis said. This covers about 45 active cases, including a recent action against Morgan Stanley.

      But employment litigators believe the effect here, too, will be transitory.

      "The EEOC is decimated as far as office space goes," but any problems are "only short-term," said Michael Weber of the New York office of Littler Mendelson. "They will get back to business." The agencies will be seeking documents from the private law firms and defendants, Weber notes. "My sense is that we will cooperate," he noted. "Our goal is not to take advantage of this catastrophe."

      "A lot of their records they'll have online, so they'll just reprint them out," adds Harkins. "The EEOC is in a better position than the SEC, because the SEC has a lot more confidential files."

      Despite reassurances, that most of the SEC cases will continue, (despite loss of confidential files) I understand, but don't remember the sources, that vast majority of these 3000-4000 cases have been abandoned.

  • 'Jewish Communal Fund' seeds Islamophobia as toxic as Trump's
    • Well, I don't know about french spies, but british spies are consummate professionals. Just looking at James Bond, it is unlikely that he would get caught in his spy-craft, and if caught, that he would be successfully detained.

  • Seachange in public opinion: 'I am tired of Israel using US-made rockets to bomb Palestinians so that ultra-conservatives can steal their land'
    • I agree Boomer, it is change that reaches tipping point. Recent poll of British Jews indicates that only 59 percent of them consider themselves Zionist.

  • Video: Undercover Israeli soldiers kill one, arrest one inside Hebron hospital
    • "Once the U.S. bombs a few more hospitals, and Israel has invaded a few more hospitals and assassinated people in them, this will be the new normal, so if some Palestinians take out a wing or two of some Israeli hospital, the U.S. and Israel should be good with that."

      Thank you Kris. You logic is impeccable and conclusion uncanny.

  • The titter-tape charade
  • Obama friends Netanyahu with one-sided statement
  • Actions planned to protest Netanyahu's visit to Washington
    • truthurts,
      While I agree with you that facts plainly show that a lot of contributions to politicians are from Jewish donors, I don't think that it is their Jewishness that is a main characteristic there. I believe that it is their pro-Zionist sympathies that are necessary for someone to make donations to buy politicians' pro-Israel votes. So I would prefer to have them identified as pro-Zionist Jewish donors, in the same way we refer to pro-Zionist Christians.

      The dual (interchangable) identity of Jewishness as both religious and racial/blood/tribal makes for such an effective trap for anyone to fall in and be accused of Anti-Semitism, that a little care with labels is called for.

  • Netanyahu's craziness is calculated, to drive out Palestinians
    • "History shows that Hitler was unhinged and his behavior erratic to say the least, and he was able to get rid of the Jewish people in the most heinous, inhumane ways.

      Thankfully, Nutty is not that bad....."

      We don't know is Netanyahu is not that bad. The history has not yet unfolded itself fully.

  • Despite global disgust, Netanyahu doubles down on claim that Hitler got idea of Final Solution from a Palestinian
    • I am not sure world would be a better place, and I wonder if frustrated Zionists would make my country, Poland, a better place.

  • 'It's like military reserve duty': Jerusalem mayor calls on Israelis to carry guns as tension soars
    • Jon66,

      I was being sarcastic, but I like the idea of this bet.
      Of course the country that created cherry tomato, and is a start up nation, would choose a sophisticated, high tech version of yellow crescent:

      How about the identity documents that clearly indicate whether person is Jewish or otherwise - with a RFID chip that can be read remotely, and a google glass equipment to identify friend from foe?

      $500 is a nice little sum. But before you commit yourself, do some googling.

    • "Samri indicated not all pedestrians will be required to walk through the machines, only “a selective review of suspicious persons.” "

      The whole progression to 1939 is accelerating. I am taking bets as to how soon will Zionists persuade themselves that a yellow crescent compulsorily displayed on the Palestinian clothing will be a matter of pure expediency.

    • Oh, great - does that mean that dispute whether civilians are legitimate targets for the anti-Occupation Palestinian resistance fighters have finally been settled?

      There are, after all - finally openly admitted to be - militias.

      ( Suicide bombers attacking civilian targets can't be painted quite so evil any more ?)

  • Jerusalem at a breaking point
    • One must be blind not to realise that there is a design in all this. Palestine free of Palestinians - the endgame of Zionism. The Axis of Evil ruse - the upheaval of entire Middle East that would allow further ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to take place in the " fog of war" didn't quite go according to plan - and the US making peace with Iran and Russia stepping into Syria - released the fury over unmet expectations.

      Pure Jewish State with no pollution from resident Arabs and other Gentiles - so tantalisingly close under Bush Junior - is now further away.

      So let the bloodletting begin......

      Netanyahu must provide bread and circuses to the crowds baying for blood.

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