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born part Arab part Scots/Irish, worked in training ulema for the european environment/ journalist broadcaster for many years working mainly for bbc. From a faction of euro-islam much favored by the establishment, writer etc nothing really of interest may as well move along.

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  • Videos: Brave Tamimi women of Nabi Saleh take down Israeli soldier assaulting injured child
    • it could be The Great Insohreckshan, or Forces of Victry but in the end

      Fite Them Back seems most appropriate

    • "Oh, no, not “lascivious” again!"

      oh be quiet man, i always stroke myself while reading M'hem, i am not proud of it but i can not help it, its where my Jew hobbyism intersects with my misogyny and backwardness.

      Are you blind, M'ahem, cant you see what went down, there is a limit to submission, those women will be your Nemesis, like the hundreds of thousands of their sisters, with their ticking time bomb demographic wombs.

    • yes you probably right, sorry, rush of blood to the head, but still I had just read a thing on Matisyahu reggae/rap lyrics and was craving authenticity, my bad.

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    • The Tamimis have a vast and fascinating history, they are all over the region. Search terms are still in the links sorry just indicative of my ignorance

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  • Jewish community is Humpty Dumpty-- it won't come back together again, and shouldn't
    • "In fact it will probably be the collapse of Zionism and the split of the Jewish community"

      Jews are united under the banner of Zionism? Like "One ring in the darkness binds them"

      " into the same various camps you find in most groups, that will lead to full normalisation."

      Jews are not normal? when did that happen? I am surprised that anti-semitism of this gravity is permitted here.

      I have enjoyed your other posts attempting to establish a kind of Critical Racism, pace Sleeter et al's Critical Multiculturalism.

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  • One year later, Gaza is still in crisis
  • For the high holidays, Bernie should bring his presidential campaign to Tzedek Chicago
  • How my return to Zimbabwe redoubled my enthusiasm for BDS in Israel/Palestine
    • Talknic your link to the Haaretz article pans out at 26 (25.7) Israeli civilians killed per annum by Palestinians actions for every year of the States existence, whats the annual road deaths?

      The one caveat i would offer is that these are Arabic numerals. Ms estimate of 2500 would give 37 per annum over the same 67 years, not seeing the thousands.

    • do you remember that letter (at link)? what does it put you in mind of? Zimbabwe is not utopia, alas, on another thread they are speaking of Abd Rabbuh, its just a question of, since we are slaves (abd), who is our Rabbuh (Lord), Nkomo writes from Knightsbridge. (which is Londons Palm Beach)

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    • James, goodstuff and all but you recall one Joshua Nkomo and some unpleasantness in Matabele land? how did that come about, why and what were the ramifications?

      it might help with our plea before the Krauss tribunal.

      As regards Palestinian restraint, compared to you murderous barbarians in the USA, it is undeniable.

  • 'There is no Jewish terror': Conspiracy theory that Palestinians committed Duma firebombing spreads among Israelis
    • Thanks Kris what I got from that is:

      "Jews are often stereotyped in the media"

      Anti-semitism, even here, how sad.

  • ‘The strategic implications of these demolitions are clear’: UN slams Israeli home demolitions and settlement expansion
    • Also Arab political poetry,

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      it includes Mattars: Even more Brutal than execution

      "Execution is the least punishment an Arab individual can get

      Is there anything more brutal than this

      Of course

      What would be even more brutal

      Would be living in the Arab world"

      he said

      ""Poetry is not an Arab regime that falls with the death of the ruler. And it's also not an alternative to action. It's an art form whose job is agitating, exposing, and witnessing reality, and aspiring beyond the present. Poetry comes before action. Then poetry catches up. Poetry lights the road, and guides our deeds. Back in the day, Nassr Bin Seyar said, “Indeed, war begins with speech.” In reality, speech surrounds war from its beginning to its end through awareness, instigation, and glorification. Indeed, action needs the influence of sincere speech. Because its absence means filling the space with contradictory speech. And we know that this contradictory speech is always present and active, even while truth exists. So, imagine that the space was entirely void of truth. There is no resistance on the face of earth that would dispense the poet for the fighter. Every living resistance realizes that there is no use for bloodshed without a moral conscience. The history of our people is the greatest witness to the importance of the poet’s role in war.

      The fighter has always sharpened both his sword and tongue.”

  • Over 1,000 Black activists, scholars and artists sign statement supporting freedom and equality for Palestinian people
    • over the years I had 6 Black American students all of whom said the same thing, "Yes I have some problems from being Muslim but they pale in comparison to the problems I face through being black in the USA"

      If a black Ethiopian Israeli emigrated to the US would you think that anti-semitism would be the major problem they would face?

      For TBK to write that in Israel the division is between Arab and Jew as in

      'the divide is not black and white its Jewish and not-Jewish." "its clear which Jews are in charge politically and socially: white Jews from Europe and the US"

      and not a Black White thing

      and yet he belongs to, as he says, to some "Jews of colour" groups, whats the purpose of these groups, well post Ferguson it might be handy i suppose, but what is the purpose of a Jews of colour group? to acclaim uncoloured Jews? swapping recipes? resisting anti-semitism? what is going on here?

  • Leading Israeli journalist says Israel is an Apartheid state

      Doesn't it remind you, dear lady, of those lines of Darwish "stripped of my name and identity" from Passport,


      They did not recognize me in the shadows
      That suck away my color in this Passport
      And to them my wound was an exhibit
      For a tourist Who loves to collect photographs
      They did not recognize me,
      Ah... Don't leave
      The palm of my hand without the sun
      Because the trees recognize me
      Don't leave me pale like the moon!

      All the birds that followed my palm
      To the door of the distant airport
      All the wheatfields
      All the prisons
      All the white tombstones
      All the barbed Boundaries
      All the waving handkerchiefs
      All the eyes
      were with me,
      But they dropped them from my passport

      Stripped of my name and identity?
      On soil I nourished with my own hands?
      Today Job cried out
      Filling the sky:
      Don't make and example of me again!
      Oh, gentlemen, Prophets,
      Don't ask the trees for their names
      Don't ask the valleys who their mother is
      From my forehead bursts the sward of light
      And from my hand springs the water of the river
      All the hearts of the people are my identity
      So take away my passport!

      Mahmoud Darwish

  • Radical talent Jowan Safadi's new song - 'To be an Arab'
    • I’ll assassinate you with a monologue

      I’ll commit suicide with the bomb of a dance troupe and I’ll torture you with the beat of drums”

      wow, they deserve real respect for their uncompromising attitude to the Court that takes real guts, but do you think they may have violated some immutable laws of civility? Do they tweet?

      Sadly I will not be able to participate further in this thread because of the rampant anti-emoticonism of some posters here, while i dont use them myself i will defend to the end your right to do so, I also notice that no one has challenged this repellent prejudice which alerts me to your collective turpitude, Unity, unity ..let us Liberate the emoticons from the Special Characters ghetto into the Alphabet.

      Now that I have denounced you I am free to lament your schismaticism, i guess.

    • "i think no one is paying any attention given the other conversations going on"

      no, its because that is one bad bad boy and we are all a bit afraid, Arab taxis are the best, girls and a nargile, being of the despised renders one total freedom, trust me its sweet.

  • Roundtable on the Palestinian solidarity movement and Alison Weir
    • Hi it is I believe about the shin bet, with whom he had something of a 'relationship', here is a link, in his own words before cancer silenced him etc, very rude of me to be sure.

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    • "It still doesn’t make sense to ally with white supremacists who hate Jews"

      It also makes no sense to ally with white supremacists who don't hate Jews, which is the point at issue here, in your case.

    • "bilabial fricative......Grounds for divorce"

      no man its why we marry

    • " "you don’t (sic) expouse “Discourse Studies”?"

      historical discourse analysis is a very respectable discipline numbering many Jews and even Hungarians amongst it most celebrated practitioners, Philosophers get arrogant in public fora because no one listens to them in Senate, or funds Philosophical Research, if only they weren't cleverer than us.

      in a nutshell

      "After some important revivals in the Middle Ages and the seventeenth
      and eighteenth centuries, however, rhetoric lost much of its importance
      in the curricula of schools and in academic research. The emergence of
      historical and comparative linguistics at the beginning of the nineteenth
      century and the birth of structural analysis of language at the beginning
      of the twentieth century replaced rhetoric as the primary discipline of
      the humanities. Fragments of rhetoric survived only in school textbooks
      of speech and communication, on one hand, and in stylistics or the study
      of literary language, on the other.
      Yet, parallel to this decline of rhetoric as an independent academic
      discipline, new developments in several fields of the humanities and the
      social sciences took place that would eventually lead to the emergence of discourse analysis"

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    • you dont deserve it, but its obvious relevance to the case in point compels me to offer you barbarians a little culture, so, here is samih al qasim on those bats,


      Bats on my windows
      suck in my words
      Bats at the entrance to my house
      behind newspaper , in corners
      trail my footsteps ,
      observing every movement of my head

      From the back of the chair, bats watch me
      They trail me in the streets
      watching my eyes pause
      on books, on young girls' legs . . .
      they watch and watch

      On my neighbor's balcony , bats,
      and electronic gadgets hidden in the walls
      Now bats are on the verge
      of suicide
      I am digging a road to daylight .

      Samih al-Qasim

  • President Obama wants us to argue about the special relationship
    • "Yet, Hamas, which you clearly want re-evaluated into legitimate freedom fighters, tacitly argues for an Islamic state."

      yes where is the Palestinian Bernie Sanders.....

      "re-evaluated into legitimate freedom fighters" ? that is a piece of vicious shit, who created and maintains Gaza you vile self righteous idiot.

  • Israeli Banks flipping out over looming European boycott
    • yet more evidence of burgeoning anti-semitism in Europe

      "On August 13th, 2015, Paris-plages (Paris-beaches) will become, for 12 hours, Tel Aviv-sur-Seine. A brilliant idea, and, let us not doubt, a very brave one on the part of the Socialist mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo. It is especially timely in that it commemorates the Israeli massacre in Gaza in the summer of 2014"

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  • Obama ushers in the crisis of the Israel lobby
    • "There are many, many Jews who know full well that the US and Israel do not have the same interests but nonetheless they use the US thoughtlessly to get everything they can for Israel"

      "Jews" ? Surely the majority of people who believe this are not Jews, are you saying that the crushing of the societies of the Arab east is not an American objective? America, Saudi (and sundry Arabians) and Israel have identical interests in respect of the Semitic rabble who inhabit Oilistan.

      "The war in Iraq is but one glaring example of this disconnect between US and Israel interests."

      Naif Hawatmeh, Habash and all the rest of us get that Palestine is an Arab and "Black" issue Palestine will not be free till American power is broken, we all agree.

      Israel is Americas' bitch, you dont think the Arab Kings would finance Israel, 20 billion per annum, to defend them, Israel is the only power that can challenge the USA in the region, she has the kings behind her, but the USA doesnt ramp, Israel is serving the Oligarchs, as we all are,

      America is the problem not the solution. Zionists own the American "political" process with the consent of your owners, enjoy your gilded cages while they last. "Zionism" "Zionists" and "Jews" are being set up to pay for the sins of "Whiteness", Really dont Jews get that "whiteness" has been thrusting them down black throats to defeat anti-racism, Jewish power is a chimera, you serve bigger players and your day is done, we also seem to be doomed, but that's just an illusion, trust me.

  • Leading US Jewish group opposes Iran deal, citing 'baseless hatred' of Jerusalem temple destruction 2000 years ago
    • "Johannesburg b Zakkai has been mentioned – he was a leader of the peace party"

      yes whats the word ? Johannesburg!

  • Understanding the Partition plan
    • dear Dr I have been thinking about your Islamic studies, may i recommend

      "Misquoting Muhammad: The Challenge and Choices of Interpreting the Prophet's Legacy"

      By Jonathan AC Brown

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      I am too lazy to explain why it might be helpful,ahadith, tafsir, polysemony etc, you can look into that if it engenders any interest whatsoever. He is a new breed of scholar rather well read and proficient. Sunnism is never saying "I know".

  • 'We saw the fire eating the house': A report from the West Bank village of Duma
    • “We live this action every day. We want to live. We have children, the same as you. We have people who want to live, the same as you. We are humans, just like you are. For all those who can hear me: We want to live. We deserve to live…Enough is enough. Enough with war.”

      In 1964 Qari Sh. Abdul Basit Abdul Samad read, inevitably, the 56th sura, al-waqiah in Masjid Al-Aksa, what will you leave us, when you are finished with us?

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  • Did the BBC cover up the anti-Semitism of Gaza's children?
    • "I defer humbly to your specific experience but in general, with translation, I think its a mistake to translate inaccurately in the name of trying to be more accurate"


      "al-yahood” does not mean Zionist or Israeli."

      you are not deferring then, despite your assurance that you were, what does it mean on the lips of these children?

      Yes Americans and Japanaese, how exact, yes overdubbing is the sine qua of anti-racism, how many Jap soldiers did American civilians have to contend with, have you seen "bad day at blackrock"(there are Jews in it)

      how perfectly it captures the relationship between Israeli's and Palestinians, you have no shame at all, give me gush emunim any day or even ateret cohanim.

  • Leading American writer Abulhawa is denied entry to Palestine
  • Photo Essay: A visit to Bethlehem's Martyr Cemetery
    • Amal Dunqul wrote "Do not Reconcile", its not my bag but very famous and current, which is at link but first a young lady blogger recounts The Jahili poem reference above made me laugh, without ignorance there is no poetry.

      "Mid Ramadan July 2014 Cairo, Egypt Gaza is being massacred again and Cairo feels more Zionist than ever.

      And I'm supposed to be just siting here. They even took away from me my right to speak about Palestine. Once upon a time when -for the first time- direct action was possible and did cause things to happen. That only time I could consider abandoning the feelings of shame for being an Egyptian I grew up with.

      That only time we could actually express how we have always felt about Israel fiercely and openly through direct action. Real actual physical direct actions. Thousands walking and driving towards physical Egyptian/Palestinian borders.. Egyptian youth swimming across the Mediterranean to get there.. Egyptian protesters bringing physical walls built by the US funded junta down, and eventually kicking ambassadors out of the country.

      And what the world thought then didn't matter. This felt so right after years of suffocated, tiny, shy expressions of disagreement.

      How does the world want me to sign up for less than this in 2014? It's 2005 all over again, and Cairo is painfully quiet and too complicit that it feels more Zionist than many other Zionist places around the world.

      The comrades who could do these things are gone or hiding, and the shameful helplessness is back to being as bitter as it has always been."

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  • Angela Merkel makes a 14-year old Palestinian girl cry by telling her she is not welcome in Germany
    • funny you say that I was struck that in the New Europe refugees are welcome only to the bottom the Med, in this center of civilization and humanism.

  • The brave new world of mapping occupied East Jerusalem
    • . "Instead, I’ll have my first dollop of Red Breast for this evening and attempt to educate my son-in-law about the true superiority of Irish whiskey"

      well once you've finished the cheap stuff get a bottle of Midleton "Very Old and Rare", its worth it and has the great virtue of being constructed in Cork.

  • Mustafa Barghouti in NY: Gaza 2014 wasn't a war, but an aggression against a people
  • 'We should seize it' -- Obama announces Iran deal as 'new direction' for the Middle East
    • while there's probably no wrong time for Bandari, now would seem to be an appropriate moment

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  • Michael Oren misrepresents 1971 synagogue bombing that changed his life
    • Dear Annie,

      you may not be aware of the ideas underlying H's, a nation its a dignity thing and the not wanting to live amongst the likes of you. As Kahane has come up how about his "Liquidation of the Exile" Chillul Hashem gambit.

      One Tzvi Fishman, soon no doubt to be wriggling in Mossers net, got in to a spot of bother by quoting I think from Kahanes "The Jewish Idea" here he defends himself against accusations of distorting Ezekiels words with extensive quotation from Kahane, who appears to be a raving lunatic or perhaps its only Tzvi, its very strange stuff.

      "There are those who accuse me of distorting the interpretation of Ezekiel’s prophecy in yesterday’s blog. So let’s see what the saintly Rabbi Meir Kahane, of blessed memory, wrote about the very same prophecy regarding the salvation of Israel from the Chilul Hashem of galut, and about the exaltedness of the State of Israel – even with all of its shortcomings.
      New Biography of the Great Lover of Israel

      What it comes down to is – either you are a part of the solution, by being in Israel and working to rebuild it along Torah ideals; or you are a part of the problem, by remaining in the exile and thereby prolonging its existence."........

      "It, therefore, says, “I had pity for My holy name which the house of Israel profaned among the nations, whither they came” (Ezek. 36:21). When the time for redemption arrives, G-d has pity on His holy people, profaned among the nations by Israel’s very presence in exile among them, living under them, subject to and dependent upon them. Even when the nations allow Israel to live in peace among them, Israel still depend on their goodness and tolerance, and that, too, is a Chilul Hashem. The fact that Israel live as a minority constantly dependent on the kindness of the nations, itself diminishes the glory of Israel, and of G-d, so to speak."

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  • New online digital mapping tool shows inside story of Israeli assault on Gaza
    • Amnesty are also urging the USA to "Keep the progress going in Afghanistan", fighting the backwardness 24/7

      "Is there a Human Right to Kill"

      Nicola Perugini and Neve Gordon

      "A few days before the summit, placards appeared in bus stops around downtown Chicago urging NATO not to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan. “NATO: Keep the progress going!” read the posters. The caption was spread over a photograph of two Afghan women wearing burkas that covered their entire body, including head and face. Walking between them is a girl who seems surprised by the voyeuristic photographer; hers is the only visible face, which looks neither frightened nor happy, but is nonetheless alert. The photograph’s subtext seems clear: The burka is this child’s future. Connecting the caption with the image, one understands that, according to the logic of the placard, NATO needs to continue its mission in Afghanistan in order to emancipate Afghan women, particularly Afghan girls.

      The poster was part of a public campaign against President Obama’s declared intention of withdrawing US and NATO troops from Afghanistan. Under the banner “NATO: Keep the progress going!” there was notification about a “Shadow Summit for Afghan Women” that was to take place alongside the NATO summit. Sponsoring the event was not a Republican think tank or a defense corporation, such as Lockheed Martin, but Amnesty International, the first and one of the most renowned human-rights organizations across the globe.

      Amnesty also prepared a letter that emphasized the importance of NATO’s continued intervention in Afghanistan and managed to secure the signature of former secretary of state Madeleine Albright, among others. During the shadow summit itself, participants made remarks that dovetailed nicely with the US State Department’s “Responsibility to Protect” doctrine, otherwise known as “humanitarian intervention.” "

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  • Theodor Herzl wasn't Jewish, according to Israeli minister
    • Dear Dr David,

      "This quotes several hadith"
      "This hadith clarifies the different penalties for adultery"

      "According to Umar, the companion of Muhammad and Islam’s second caliph, “[Allah] sent down the Book (Quran) upon him (Muhamad), and the verse of stoning was included in what was sent down to him.” Umar went on to insist that “Stoning is a duty laid down in Allah’s Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or it there is pregnancy, or a confession.” (Muslim 17:4194) In other words, there was a verse in the original Quran narration that prescribed stoning adulterers, but it was left out of the compiling process in the years following Muhammad’s death."

      You can not derive a legal principle from a hadith without a Quranic basis, when they list sources Quran, Hadith etc, its not check in one and then if you dont find it look in the next one, its sequential, do Muslims violate this yes while paying lip to service to it and without any sign of suffering cognitive dissonance, its puzzling. Zina is mentioned 5 0r 6 times in the Quran, there is no execution, so that's clear, but we have found ways round that.

      As to Umar, he did not say, he is reported to have said and further more the fundamental Islamic tenet is that the Quran, in its seven slight variant editions, is the final and complete testament, given what survives of previous scripture, given that a full knowledge of the living ancient dialects and their idioms survives, if the Mushaf is not complete there no point in Islam at all, Umar 's purported utterance, if Umar said such a thing Muslims are doctrinally compelled to accept that he was in error, if through Gods providence the Quran is not the final complete summation of semito-aryan monotheism Islam, in its exoteric aspect is entirely pointless, all our scriptures are garbled. Also any English translation of any Arabic source is already an interpretation, there is no Islamic position on anything, there are a variety of conflicting ones, the Quran says that engenders peace, so you can judge its general reliability from that perhaps. What makes Muslim smile is your firm and clear grasp of our ambiguity, as in life nothing in Islam is clear, that Viennese ex-Jew Assad still has far and away the best English translation, good and copious footnotes and appendices.

      Of course Zina is interesting in other ways

      "With regard to witnesses to zina, they should be four people whose testimony is acceptable, and they should state that they have seen the zina in clear terms, i.e., they should have seen the man’s penis in the woman’s vagina. If some of them only testify that they saw them naked, or they describe certain positions or movements, that is not sufficient to proof that zina took place.

      Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Mumti’ (6/157):

      They should describe zina in clear terms, such as saying: “I saw his penis in her vagina”. There is no alternative to that. If they say: “We saw him on top of her and they were naked”, that is not acceptable. Even if they say “We saw him doing with her what a man does with his wife,” that is not sufficient as testimony. They must say “We bear witness that his penis was in her vagina.” And this is very difficult, as the man said who was testified against at the time of ‘Umar: “If you were among the (four) thighs you would never be able to give this testimony.” Hence Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah mentioned that at his time no case of zina was proven by means of testimony from the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until the time of Ibn Taymiyah. If no case was proven from that time until the other, then we do not know of any case that was proven by testimony up till our own times, because it is very difficult."

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  • Hillary Clinton promises megadonor she will work with Republicans-- to oppose BDS
    • " a bunch of Uncle Toms or “House Arabs” "

      Look who else is in Da House

      "Sisi meets American-Jewish organisation to discuss 'terrorism' "

      "During the meeting with the American-Jewish Committee, Sisi reportedly warned of the militant threat to the Middle East and Africa"

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      #EgyptTurmoil Middle East Eye

  • 'America I'm putting my queer shoulder to the wheel' -- Allen Ginsberg
    • No Mr. Jones, don't ask

      "When will you be worthy of your million Trotskyites?"

      That's why, its self explanatory. Do you think the USA is worthy of its Trots (then the answer is yes) or not (no).

      "What’s the reference to Trotskyism here for, may I ask?"

      He was a modernist poet, its dangerous to ask, at least venal if not mortal, whats it for, who knows? I am more sympathetic to Stalin than decency allows, Bronstein worries me.

      but then according to the rosross metric I am both brainwashed and from a backwards culture, no more than a brainwashed retard, everywhere I travel i find myself, I am no expert on others.

      Its wonderful to hear from unwashed brain forwardness, even though its the most blood-soaked ideology ever to have existed according to its own assessment, it only destroys the retard brainwashed like me, its not all bad so.

  • 'A traumatized society is dangerous'
  • 'Obama coffee' is black and weak -- racist tweet from wife of Israel's vice premier
    • And of course the famous Druze coffee (hyper strong and any colour you want as long as its black) made with a mihbaj, wherein a white demonstrates that he has rhythm, interesting scene they may even get their own casino's soon.

    • "the divide is not black and white its Jewish and not-Jewish."
      "its clear which Jews are in charge politically and socially: white Jews from Europe and the US"

      if its not a "division" it must just be that its natural for white people to be in charge I guess, "black" is specifically an ascribed identity within a system of privilege, some "black" Jews of Ethiopian descent would disagree with you about the nature of the stratification of Israeli society. Smadar Lavie (Yemeni mother White father) ascribes her access to higher education to her fathers white privilege and social contacts, which she lost as a divorced mother.

      I knew an "black" African Rabbi in the UK who was attempting to get refugee status there, after failing to do so in Sweden to escape the vicious racism of Israel, where he had lived for a decade, we were both clients of a Kenyan lawyer working in Ealing.

      You have no Black Consciousness whatever your genetic heritage and are rather lazily trying to use putative blackness to further privilege Jewishness, are you not the poster whose rebartative musings about Obama's constructed identity revealed your own strange notions about identity

      "With Obama, imo its not the dream of identity in general which is particularly appealing, but specifically the allure of belonging to a place naturally.

      It makes sense that he would want to heap legitimacy on essential identities

      since his own has been constructed.

      Over the course of his life he had to learn how to present hims self (sic) as legitimate both to the black and white community, or rather various black and white communities."

      "I would also say, without endorsing equal narratives, that it is impossible to have One State until a sufficient number of Israelis and (more importantly) Palestinians abandon the idea that there is such a thing as someone who does not belong naturally to the place they are living. In fact, One State (based in rights and democracy) is the ultimate form of normalization."

      and because its so good not forgetting

      "You find reflexive essentialism among the Israeli right but also among the Palestinians across the spectrum and prominent in the international left. Which is why even here people who normally reject race and ethnocentrism rant about DNA, Khazars, are offended that Obama looked at the Dead Sea Scrolls, and argue usually for the assumed rights of a Palestinian people, not the individual ones of the citizen (or future citizen) whose parentage is irrelevant." - See more at: link to

      you could hardly be whiter.

  • New program provides 'birthright' trips for US evangelicals to visit the holy land
    • ya akhi Ramadan Karim

    • "You’re right, gamal"

      you know my friend sometimes like in colonialism and its resistance in terms of "eschatology" we all wrong.

    • " Oddly, Moslems are also into this story of Jouz and Majouz (Gog and Magog)" you mean Ya'juj and M'ajuj surely, or maybe i have it wrong.

      "Jouz"? the only one i can think of is the 30 equal divisions of the Quran to be read daily through ramadan,

      Ya'juj and Ma'juj, as in 21:96, are from Al-kahf, which seems to me to be series of jokes, at our expense, and al-anbiya, in which, inter alia, Ibrahim is revealed to be a practical joker of the first order.

      there are of course ahadith, of course there are why wouldn't there be.

      you are correct that many nutters are in to this i include a link to some guys not only pretending to be scholars but who also believe that Jurassic park is a reality,

      I believe Lord Sacks has just written a book on Islamic extremism ( i am guessing he is against it and that its an imminent threat) perhaps he knows, eschatology is pretty stupid in my book, and so here are some Muslim nutcases, i defy anyone to read without laughing. Just before you click Nafeez Ahmed has an interesting article on the utility of Muslim nutters, which includes a picture of Chertoff who seems to be turning into Skeletor, its probably a better choice than what i deposited below.

      link to

      some deeply scat Islamic "scholarship" quite charming in its innocent idiocy.

      link to

  • Israel failed to interview eyewitnesses to soccer boys' slaughter
    • "Good looking lad too. Heh."

      yes obviously as he is, going by the name, a Lucky ( and right handed or is it on the right and blessed) Reviver of Faith, of course he cuts some style, Egyptian don't ya know.

  • It's the borders, stupid (forget the BDS hysteria)
    • "There is a little doubt about the exact meaning of ‘from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates"

      Good luck in court with that

      "the Bible is for ever" so there was never a time before the bible? nor a developmental phase?
      not a Mu'tazilite then or even Asharite?

      any Biblical scholar will tell you bibles come and go, codex sinaiticus anyone?

      "but there’s no removing the text." please see above

  • 'You have dual citizenship with Israel' -- NPR host hits Sanders with internet canard
    • " the people of all countries, the 99 percent, if you will" that would be the 100% then, or are some people statistical error, (it would still be 100%)

      sad to see that people are 'purported progressive' sounds degenerative, radical left, no a radical leftist would have at the very least a little political education and not write vapid nonsense, non-citizen Jews have trouble getting in, should they need to do so? why? funny kind of safe haven then.

  • Is BDS practicing a double standard with respect to Arab countries?
    • not only that but Bahrain is the site of a new UK military base, if only the US et al would boycott us all it would be a great blessing,

      Last time i was in Egypt I and a young female relative went to buy a Kuffiya at the shop was an American college kid scoffing at the poor nylon facsimiles, we were embarrassed and I lied "they are better quality than we get in the UK" , "better" he scoffed, the owner came out and offered my girl 20% if she got me to buy a leather bag, she looked at me and I answered in the local lingo, "Ma'alish" he demurred and retired back inside, we trudged home depressed but laughing, she newly wed and pregnant has to live in the city of delegates, none of them will take a penny from me "In family" they say "there is no money" even though they insist on giving me the 4k Egyptian pounds my land earns annually, her father is my Akeel or agent and extracts my rent from the farmers, which is not easy, they make me take it, we would all boycott ourselves if we could.

      please boycott us please, what harm could it do.

      "Britain to build first permanent Middle East military base in four decades"

      link to

  • No Longer My Holy City: Reflections on Jerusalem
    • "The old huge-slippery slabs and the small tiles that spread through out Tariq Al-Wad are now in the Israeli Knesset Building, the “Israel Museum”, and on the modern walls of the Mamilla Mall that was originally built on top of an ancient Muslim cemetery. It’s not new for the Israeli authority to “steal” such ancient and historical pieces under the name of “renovation” and “modernization”, or to legitimize the existence of Israeli Jews in old Palestinian (Arab) houses in the West side of Jerusalem."

      you could always buy some to decorate your house , if you lived in the UK .

      link to

  • Netanyahu under siege, in 'the most embattled democracy on earth'
    • I see your post below just,"lie then bribe" incidentally Qasim was a Palestinian Druze.

    • reminds me of the late great Samih al Qassem, his "Bats" is great also. This is

      Travel Tickets

      On the day you kill me
      You'll find in my pocket
      Travel tickets
      To peace,
      To the fields and the rain,
      To people's conscience.
      Don't waste the tickets.

      Samih al-Qasim

  • Munayyer and Beinart's historic debate on the solution to the conflict
    • "Told me a lot about their state of mind and nerves."

      I liked Beinarts' injustice is normative schtick, from this a neck crick is an inevitable consequence, all be it the most minor affliction caused by this insanity, its all "narratives" and "competing nationalisms", his comments about Saudi's made me laugh out loud, I think I hear the Derfner bus rounding the corner, excuse me, I may gone for sometime, I think the driver is from the Islamic State.

      what is it with his trauma trauma mantra, the only people who instrumentalize trauma are those who have lived in luxurious privilege and security, like the chickenhawks who love war, they lay the basis for ongoing trauma with their naive loyalty to injustice and murderous repression but what about those Arabs, eh, must go my bus is leaving.

      Beinart has never read Taha Muhammad Ali's:


      by Taha Muhammad Ali,

      (translated by Peter Cole, Yahya Hijazi and Gabriel Levin
      21 December 2006 )

      At times ... I wish
      I could meet in a duel
      the man who killed my father
      and razed our home,
      expelling me
      a narrow country.
      And if he killed me,
      I'd rest at last,
      and if I were ready—
      I would take my revenge!


      But if it came to light,
      when my rival appeared,
      that he had a mother
      waiting for him,
      or a father who'd put
      his right hand over
      the heart's place in his chest
      whenever his son was late
      even by just a quarter-hour
      for a meeting they'd set—
      then I would not kill him,
      even if I could.


      Likewise ... I
      would not murder him
      if it were soon made clear
      that he had a brother or sisters
      who loved him and constantly longed to see him.
      Or if he had a wife to greet him
      and children who
      couldn't bear his absence
      and whom his gifts would thrill.
      Or if he had
      friends or companions,
      neighbours he knew
      or allies from prison
      or a hospital room,
      or classmates from his school ...
      asking about him
      and sending him regards.


      But if he turned
      out to be on his own—
      cut off like a branch from a tree—
      without a mother or father,
      with neither a brother nor sister,
      wifeless, without a child,
      and without kin or neighbours or friends,
      colleagues or companions,
      then I'd add not a thing to his pain
      within that aloneness—
      not the torment of death,
      and not the sorrow of passing away.
      Instead I'd be content
      to ignore him when I passed him by
      on the street—as I
      convinced myself
      that paying him no attention
      in itself was a kind of revenge.

      April 15, 2006


  • ‘Spring’ and Counterrevolution in Egypt: Four years of reflections
    • Sisi says something so stupid the whole nation has a facepalm moment. Apparently he was stuck in a lift with Merkel for an hour, do the Germans install Egyptian made machinery?

      His days are numbered, even the Arabians are courting alternatives, well Shafik
      is sulking somewhere in the gulf, the head Oligarch the Christian Sawaris hates him due to a tax demand, Omar Kassem explains at

      link to

      the Idiot speaks, in a " fuck this shit" stylee,

  • 'Heart-wrenching, harrowing, transfixing' -- NYT needs to end blackout on Blumenthal
    • "Annie!

      t o e i n g"

      You Roha are like our proper usage Pole Star, indulge me I guess anyone, especially any woman, can understand this Arabic song without, and you, one word of arabic. Its long, any primate will get it. Annie will like it and we will all toe the necessary lines. Coherence is such a burden, thanks for your encouragement.

      ام كلثوم الف ليله وليله اغنيه

    • "Bernie Sanders and Max B. and not Hillary’s hair color, I hear you."

      yes as your comment proves it is impossible not to like Max Blumenthal, can you really imagine all this theft and slaughter can be beneficial, don't you read religious materials? Try the Jewish ones.

      That young man is a paragon and example to us all, especially rough old reprobates like me, it is inspiring.

  • 'Oglethorpe stands with Palestine': BDS comes to the American south (Updated)
    • " I taught there for a while, years ago." and finally your efforts are bearing fruit.

      Here is roundtable on Anti-Blackness and Black/Palestinian solidarity from the USA, a lot of it in the inelegant language of "Sociology", forgive them they know not what they say, but still you may find clauses of interest.

      "Solidarity is about death and social death. We are talking about two groups that are globally perceived as living dead. As a Palestinian, I see clearly, that on a global level, Palestinians do not have a right to exist. Israelis have a right to exist because of a Biblical right and in that narrative we are invaders and are disturbing a world order. This is where I see solidarity between Blacks and Palestinians because the political economy of Blackness is the political economy of Palestinianness whereby there is other-ization and being perceived in zoological terms, in the Fanon sense. Consider the Balfour Declaration- therein we are not even people to be consulted. And the same can be said of Blacks- who are slaves and should not be consulted. They are not there to be consulted, we are not even people."

      link to

  • 'This land is ours. All of it is ours': Meet the Netanyahu cabinet members focused on fighting BDS & annexing the West Bank
    • The Arab Christian saint the holy Mar Ahudemmeh said to his charges when establishing a monastery in the wastes to provide water to the wayfarer,

      " My children, love one another, and pray constantly; receive strangers with a warm heart so that your work may not be in vain"

      p.180 Byzantium and the Arabs in the sixth century by Irfan Shahid

      link to

      his one same title but fourth century is also good. Note all the references to Provincia Arabia and Palestina Secunda and Tertia etc, the mixed nature of the communities, Armenians, Persians, Levantines etc. Also the careful reader will notice that there is great difference between the meanings of 'Arab and A'rab.

      As you imply Mr. Eller, it sometimes seems as if there is no such thing as an actually existing Muslim, Jew or Christian, "with a warm heart so that your work may not be in vain".

      Well said.

  • Israel will imprison soldier, 19, for publicly criticizing the occupation
    • "the speech must be conformed according to the LAW."

      "That is the reason (law violation) of his being arrested"

      Ok thats clear

      "but not his views or opinion"

      Ok I am confused again. (is confusion legal?), what does "conformed according to LAW" mean, not opinions? should it rhyme? ask your turn?

      what ever anybody else says I liked "the speech must be conformed", I may steal that.

  • The grotesque injustice of Obama's speech at the Washington synagogue
    • Brewer are you saying even Apostates should have a voice?

      If Jerry Hough can publish,

      link to

      who should be silenced just because they may believe in some racist crap, Liars Homphi have no moral authority to damn anyone, we refuse to be divided we refuse your sanctimonious inquisition. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, however wrong it is at other times, you cant argue against that, arent you the "all those radical sheikhs at Al-Azhar" moron, the undercover out-reach fabulator.

      you H, you benefit from the fact that some us just don't have any standards, if you aren't beyond the pale no one is.

      Charlie, Charlie what have you started.

      Who knows (sending love to my friends and foes)

  • Sam Harris and the dangers of false atheism
    • you da man Mooser, if you werent an ungulate i'd swear you are camelish.

      have you met Hatim al Tai, google him, this here is all the scriptures in 840 words

      and this real religion:

      The Heart Sutra

      Thus have I heard. Once the Blessed One was dwelling in Rajagriha at Vulture Peak mountain, together with a great gathering of the sangha of monks and a great gathering of the sangha of bodhisattvas. At that time the Blessed One entered the samadhi that expresses the dharma called "profound illumination," and at the same time noble Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva mahasattva, while practicing the profound prajnaparamita, saw in this way: he saw the five skandhas to be empty of nature.

      Then, through the power of the Buddha, venerable Shariputra said to noble Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva mahasattva, "How should a son or daughter of noble family train, who wishes to practice the profound prajnaparamita?"

      Addressed in this way, noble Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva mahasattva, said to venerable Shariputra, "O Shariputra, a son or daughter of noble family who wishes to practice the profound prajnaparamita should see in this way: seeing the five skandhas to be empty of nature. Form is emptiness; emptiness also is form. Emptiness is no other than form; form is no other than emptiness. In the same way, feeling, perception, formation, and consciousness are emptiness. Thus, Shariputra, all dharmas are emptiness. There are no characteristics. There is no birth and no cessation. There is no impurity and no purity. There is no decrease and no increase. Therefore, Shariputra, in emptiness, there is no form, no feeling, no perception, no formation, no consciousness; no eye, no ear, no nose, no tongue, no body, no mind; no appearance, no sound, no smell, no taste, no touch, no dharmas, no eye dhatu up to no mind dhatu, no dhatu of dharmas, no mind consciousness dhatu; no ignorance, no end of ignorance up to no old age and death, no end of old age and death; no suffering, no origin of suffering, no cessation of suffering, no path, no wisdom, no attainment, and no non-attainment. Therefore, Shariputra, since the bodhisattvas have no attainment, they abide by means of prajnaparamita.

      Since there is no obscuration of mind, there is no fear. They transcend falsity and attain complete nirvana. All the buddhas of the three times, by means of prajnaparamita, fully awaken to unsurpassable, true, complete enlightenment. Therefore, the great mantra of prajnaparamita, the mantra of great insight, the unsurpassed mantra, the unequaled mantra, the mantra that calms all suffering, should be known as truth, since there is no deception. The prajnaparamita mantra is said in this way:


      Thus, Shariputra, the bodhisattva mahasattva should train in the profound prajnaparamita.

      Then the Blessed One arose from that samadhi and praised noble Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva mahasattva, saying, "Good, good, O son of noble family; thus it is, O son of noble family, thus it is. One should practice the profound prajnaparamita just as you have taught and all the tathagatas will rejoice."

      When the Blessed One had said this, venerable Shariputra and noble Avalokiteshvara, the bodhisattva mahasattva, that whole assembly and the world with its gods, humans, asuras, and gandharvas rejoiced and praised the words of the Blessed One.

      Lotsawa Bhikshu Rinchen De translated this text into Tibetan with the Indian pandita Vimalamitra. It was edited by the great editor-lotsawas Gelong Namkha and others. This Tibetan text was copied from the fresco in Gegye Chemaling at the glorious Samye vihara. It has been translated into English by the Nalanda Translation Committee, with reference to several Sanskrit editions.

    • Zakir Naik: A Saudi-backed Radical Islamic Televangelist

      link to


      2012 Defense Intelligence Agency Document:
      West Will Facilitate Rise of Islamic State “in Order to Isolate the Syrian Regime”

      link to

      I mean whats it all about? you keep watching the Muslims, radicalization is invisible, it could be happening in a Muslim near you right now.

      Its stochastic no one knows why it occurs, not to essentialize but its probably inherent to Islam.
      I am currently holding the fort against my own incipient atavism, wish me luck, all our lives could depend on my success.

  • Letter from Baltimore
    • " they are brought to a social service center and released to their parents. This is not a secret"

      So they are detained in a social service center, its not a secret its in the article, if they are not detained how can they be released? I see its a social service.

    • This is the best thing I have read from the frontline in the USA, wonderful, thanks.

      "Incidentally, the city has a year-round curfew for youth 14 years and under, a controversial law enacted last year under which minors can be brought to detention centers if found on the street after 9 pm. " How insolent of the authorities.

      Thanks for introducing Juan, that bit of this piece was wonderful, how patient and steadfast these people are, truly admirable, best thing I have read in a while, I am inspired.

  • Netanyahu: Jerusalem was always the capital 'of the Jewish people alone'
    • Jeffrey, as a German you may not have had access to the Jewish Virtual library, link below, the point about names is that of course the Nabateans (its complicated) were Arabs/Canaanites who spoke Aramaic, how do we know they was Arabs, their names, their kings often went by "Aretas" which just the Roman for Harithat, there is no more Arab name than that, sorry.

      "According to the generally accepted division of the Semitic languages , Arabic (also called, more appropriately, North Arabic) belongs to the southwest Semitic branch, although some scholars affiliate it with central Semitic. The affinity between Arabic and Hebrew (which belongs to the northwest Semitic branch) is conspicuous and finds its reflection also in the genealogical tables of the Bible." Much more at:

      link to

    • "With full honours?"

      Yes Pro Rata Ad Infinitum and time served.

      Can you imagine the suffering of even temporary Gentility.

    • Jeff, thats a Jewish name? Actually its middle French for the old German Gottfried, so you are a middle French Old High German posing as a Jew, figures.

      All excommunicated Jews are hereby re-incorporated, it had to be a hoax, bloody Germans.

    • Jeffallah
      of course you will know that Abuadam is merely a version of that ( also a well known West Semitic loan word in Sumerian), Ugaritic term Ab adam, an ephiphet of El, or God, ie Father of Man, it appears your atheism may have been a touch hasty. He forgives if you stop bullshitting.


      here is some rather funny scholarly bitching about Genesis and Atra Hassis and Enku and Ninhirsag and of course Nin-ti, created as the Physician, first woman, to heal the sick organ or sore rib of Enku, the primordial woman translates from the Sumerian, as lady of the rib or as ti has another meaning "The Lady Who Gives Us Life", I always liked that, we'd be lost without Mummy.

      I studied Inscriptions from before the Flood. (I thought David Toshio Tsumura's bit was hilarious, i may be a bit perverse, bickering scholars are funny to me) at the link you may even look inside.
      link to

  • 'So wait, the Nakba is…?': Listening to Israelis discuss the Nakba
    • "Pity, because I like Ireland and wish I had friends there."

      ah just have a listen to Pogue Mahone, it's an instruction sadly you will have to follow, the Irish are too good for you, you will have to aim lower, the Welsh are always available.

  • 'This is where we are, and we are not leaving here' — Notes from BirthWrong
  • Ilan Pappe on the western awakening and what it means for Israel/Palestine
    • and if may I point out, with the mods discretion, many of you seem to be young professionals, you attend meetings, in Africa they have revolutionized the meeting, to the eternal benefit of all young academics and all employees, I guess they should get Nebraska (no one is using it right now) at a minimum, I have my eyes on Manhattan, but am a degenerate with no social capital to expend, I promise I wouldn't waste it, even just a bit of it would do.

    • "How can they treat an inebriated, bitter old man in this fashion"

      oh now steady on that cut me to the quick, the mods have no mercy on me, though i am censored, but only when i deserve it.

  • Bedouin village razed 83 times must pay $500,000 for demolitions, Israel says
    • Thats only $6,024 dollars a shot, good deal, you try demolishing your village for less. They could probably lower their unit costs by putting in a pre-order for say 200 demolitions.

  • Shit Israeli soldiers did in Gaza
    • "Yes, the IRA has always been mindful of civilians, legendarily so"

      The IRA are not Irish Soldiers, relying on a superficial largely MSM semi-sensate reading of things leads to idiocy like the above

      lets check some figures between 1969 and 1998

      all combined Republicans paramilitaries are responsible for 2060 killed

      727 Civilians
      1080 British Security Forces
      187 Republican paramilitaries (inclusive of accidents, informers and feuds)
      56 Loyalist paramilitaries.
      10 Irish security.

      35% civilian

      of which the Provisional IRA caused 1711 deaths

      512 Civilians
      1012 British Security Forces
      141 Republican paramilitaries
      39 Loyalist Paramiltaries
      7 Irish security

      29.9% civilian

      Loyalist paramilitaries killed 1016 people during the Troubles:

      868 Civilians
      14 British Security
      41 Republican paramilitaries.
      93 Loyalist paramilitaries (mostly feuds, some accidents)

      85.43% of people killed by Loyalists were civilians. 4.7% of the people killed by Loyalists were Republican paramilitaries. That figure includes Republicans who were ex-paramilitaries. Loyalists killed more civilians then anyone during the Troubles.

      The Loyalists and British Security Forces combined killed 1055 civilians during the Troubles. That's 328 more civilians then all Republican groups combined and more then double the number civilians who were killed by the PIRA.

      "Also, as far as the Brits, I was sarcastic. I was referring to the Bengali famine, which was only the latest in an endless string of horrors and deprivations unleashed on one of the world’s oldest civilizations"

      The same bastards established Zionism in Palestine and destroyed one of the oldest societies on earth, you are not sarcastic you are an ignoramus.

  • Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister in new government
    • " “No Irish person wrote Ulysses”

      James Joyce wasn’t Irish?"

      While Joyce was Irish, he is not an Irish person, he is an Irish institution. I am surprised you didn't know that.

  • MSM's platform for Pamela Geller is equivalent to normalizing David Duke and Nazis
    • and something a little academic but as always Muslims manage to disappoint and are woefully ignorant and forgetful

      Beyond Orientalism

      Gauri Viswanathan: speaking of Amitav Ghosh in an Egyptian village

      " The cultural and historical divisions are apparent even in the kinds of conflicts the narrator has with the Egyptian villagers:

      'The Imam and I had participated in our own final defeat, in the dissolution of the centuries of dialogue that had linked us: we had demonstrated the irreversible triumph of the language that has usurped all the others in which people once discussed their differences (236).'

      link to

    • "Wait a minute, there’s something familiar about that. No central authority? Authenticity residing in each group or sect, and no institutional test of authenticity?"

      Have you met the "Yahudi abangan" Herb Feith, who uses an Islamic model to express his freedom to do as he sees fit with his own mind and being. I haven't checked with the relevant authorities if he is still "Jewish", perhaps you could ask Jeff, when you have a moment.

      The only thing that keeps me within the faith is a paucity of prosthetic fore-skins.

      link to

    • "Are you and I experts on Islam?" yes, in my case, do you think knowledge of Islam is impossible, but that thankfully in its absence we can draw serious conclusions.

      "There’s no concensus"

      cool, thats witty (Sunni witty, hope it wasnt accidental)

      "and reasonable debate has already been vacated by other people who are indeed terrified of attacking Islam"

      Yes I get so frustrated Islam where is the criticism, thank you for your fearlessness.

      "This means that we either get no criticism at all" but "Are you and I experts on Islam"

      oh since you mentioned it

      "Like the support for death for leaving Islam, overwhelming support in supposedly “moderate” countries like Egypt"

      Egypt told you it was moderate? thankfully you haven't fallen for it.

      If you hadn't have brought it up i shouldn't of had to post these links, you'll thank me when we both get Rohaed

      So apostasy and the great news that Muslims know little of Islam and zilch about Fiqh, its the non-essentialized stagnation

      Apostasy, Freedom and Da’wah:
      Full Disclosure in a Business-like Manner

      Mohammad Omar Farooq
      September 2006

      link to

      He is one of them though so for background Frank Giffel, one of us.

      link to

      She knew the risks? Really how many of the presumably many such events have been decimated a la Charlie in the US, seems to be more dangerous to walk while black, isnt a murderous shooting spree is as American as apple pie, looks like "they" are integrating fine, rejoice.

      I saw the perpetrators car, was there a tank in attendance and of course the FBI have been monitoring one guy since 2007, the condominium between IS and the US is a wonder to behold. Without serious struggle you will never see your rights again.

      What is it about Islam? and whom should we ask?

      Its in the Quran, that's what I've heard.

  • 'BirthWrong' in the Cradle of Jewish Culture: Jews gather in southern Spain for tour that aims to repudiate Zionism
    • Zionism can not long term accommodate the non-, anti-Zionist Judaisms, ask a Muslim, Zionism must occupy Judaism, its the nature of the beast, great movements require sacrifices Judaism and Jews as well as many many others are the sacrifice required for a fully functioning Zionism as Islam and Muslims are for the new Islamism, a guy Mustafa Al Set Mariam Nasar nom de guerre Abu Musab al-Suri his record and analysis of his experiences in Homs and Hama under Hafez Assad led to a move away from the stolid brotherhood and has finally spawned the IS crew, he is the new Qutb, he wrote,

      "Da'wat al-muqawamah al-islamiyyah al-'alamiyyah",

      Islamic call to global resistance

      a theory of Islamic resistance, which explicitly rejects Islam in favour of a project so brutal and coldly calculating that it is with a sense of relief that one realizes that 90% of his strategies are aimed at terrifying and subduing the Muslims, at least he is mainstream in that way, in his opinion the US invasion of Iraq saved the hyper radical "Islamists" that became Nusra, IS et al, just when they were in profound crisis,

      "dont give a crap about" becomes "will tolerate no disobedience from" in short order,

      Saudi,Israel, the GCC's, (Egypt) and IS are now an openly operating axis, its going to be a tough century all round.

    • "300 km. west of Beersheva is somewhere in the Med. sea." Dont be obtuse is Egypt west of Beersheba?

      already you want to displace us and in to the sea, you are incorrigible.

    • "Judaism or Zionism?" ok dont hate me but I forsee a Judeo-Zionism gambit similar to that other successful scam, the Tibetans always welcome converts, they play a mean Trumpet/Horn, they are very non-violent though and are thus not a top nation, sometimes you have to go down market, I have known more Jews as co-religionists than in any other way, currently a VajraJew friend is freaking out on Kopan hill in Katmandu, She teaches madiyamika prasangika philosophy, very severely, shes from Birmingham UK, she could help you across, but brush up on your phenomenology, to avoid embarrassment.

    • well you are always very gracious, I hope your efforts bear fruit, my family comes from about 300km west of Beersheba near Zagazig, no one gives a damn about the local economies hundreds of years old or the local micro-cultures that were obliterated when our cousins in Palestine disappeared off the face of the earth, so that some suckers can live out their religious nationalist fantasies, the silk under your asses is wearing thin the costs of this insanity are going to go on increasing for the settlers and their state, the casualties will mount the end is nowhere in sight but seems to be in a hellish region. You won't escape but we are inured to abjection, I am told little wars are breaking out all over Sharkiya, with the state security apparatus taking significant unreported losses, if Egypt erupts the whole region will explode and endlessly repeating a mantra about murderous terrorist is a woefully inadequate response, especially for a man of the left. You can not reduce your victims to a tactic.

    • Sorry Jon I was all for you but it seems a Jew is out to get you, what can I do, my hands are tied.

      As to the Mosque when you say you support its restoration, can we expect civil disobedience on your part or is your support as worthless as your opinions about Hamas?

    • "can’t agree with you, there." you are probably right I was drunk and melancholy, isnt he in Beersheba where the Bedouin are trying to get access to their mosque closed in '48, praying in the street.

      Anyway its this turning Jews in to victims, the Iberian Jews and Donna Gracia et all were anything but, The Nagralah boys were warriors, poets, horsemen, statesmen and valued participants in the high culture and politics of their respective societies, it doesnt really matter you can tell any tale as anything a comedy, melodrama, this ethno-religious squabbling is pointless tedious and the cause of unimaginable suffering all round,

      There was a link to a Max B video the "was that you Max" conversation, it crystalized for me the feeling that guys like Max and Miko project, you dont hear them saying that they have gone down to the Palestinians and educated them civilized them nor alleviated their perplexity, they express gratitude for what they have learned from them and what they have received of human warmth and kindness.

      And in sympathetic elation I drink, immoderately, sing and dance and offer unreasonable friendliness to a guy who is, inter-alia, punishing himself the Hasbarists have such a claustrophobic quality, narrow, shallow life denying pessimism, sometimes whisky and deep round base are the only solution, despite its unfortunate side effects.

      You know bass culrture (this black lives thing has been going on all my life as the link attests)

    • Yes Jon, but what use is that awareness, when a thief breaks in to your house he is aware that he is thieving, its just that his awareness is of little or no utility, you get me.

      Arab Muslims will accept you because you are a Jew, which is the opposite of Zionist, dont let the Wasps et al freak you out, this aint Christendom man Jews are respected because of their 'moral priority' immoral thieving "Jews" are going down with IS and others and are looked down upon here, they love that in Washington, but Washington is uncivilized.

      You need to free yourself man, do you think i think Islam is true? or truer, or better?

      you a sweet man Jon, but you lie to yourself.

    • oh Jon just Jews?

  • Haneen Zoabi's power and vision (and answers to Theodore)
    • I saw her in Cork city and yes

      "She is one of the most impressive people that I have ever met, perhaps the most impressive"

      Couldn't agree more.

  • How fighting Islamophobia in the US is connected to working for justice in Israel/Palestine: an interview with Donna Nevel
    • "I think that that’s rooted in Islamophobia and goes into this narrative of Muslims somehow being different"

      This is important but Muslim difference is merely the vehicle by which the rights of the common citizen will be curtailed see below this astonishing abuse of process that utilizes the notion of Muslim difference in a heartening example of cultural sensitivity, its beyond belief.

      In the UK a Muslim MP has been deposed, having be taken to a peculiar "court"

      Jen Izaakson reports:

      "A review of the judgement in the Lutfur Rahman case

      How did Lutfur Rahman rig an election?

      37,000 people voted for Lutfur Rahman in a record turnout. He has now been deposed – not by an election, not by arrest and not by a jury trial, but by four local politicians who took him to court. Sitting in judgment was one man only – not a qualified judge, only a barrister (assumed by the media and even myself, to be a Judge) – who has demonstrated previously a peculiar interest in Muslims and elections. This man found Lutfur Rahman guilty of multiple offences under the Representation of the People Act 1983. This article goes over what they were.

      The two hundred page judgment available for all to read.

      Pay special attention to the mention of apostasy. It is mentioned how apostasy, ‘is treated with great seriousness’. It continues, ‘it would be wrong, therefore, to treat Tower Hamlets’ Muslim by community by the standards of a secular and largely agnostic metropolitan elite.’ There we are. Law is, explicitly, to be applied differently to Muslims than as it applied to the ‘agnostic metropolitan elite’, whoever they are (is this the bankers in East London?)

      Spiritual injury

      The pieces of evidence presented here were limited. One was a letter supporting Lutfur Rahman written by imams, and another was a speech made by an imam at a wedding (where Lutfur’s recollection of the event conflicted with a recording of it.) Neither in themselves fulfilled the spirit of the ‘spiritual injury’ offence, which is for a religious figure to claim that it is sinful to vote for one candidate or another.

      At no point has anything other than hearsay evidence been presented for this. In court one particular afternoon I watched as five Muslim witnesses were repeatedly asked, “did you say it was haram to not vote for brother Lutfur?”, as if these people were religious scholars in any position to do so. Within Islam there is a debate about whether to vote at all in elections, not about which candidate is the godly choice! To make such a claim, to decide god’s will and choose a specific man above another as more fated by god, I imagine, though I’m no sheik, would be sacrilegious."

      Just to emphasize how unprecedented this is and what it betokens

      "The most recent case law regarding ‘spiritual injury’ is from 19th century occupied Ireland. A law originally designed to uphold British colonial rule in Ireland by depicting the Catholic peasantry as ignorant cattle manipulated by their priests and incapable of thinking for themselves is now used to deny the right of Tower Hamlets residents to choose a representative who doesn’t come from one of the establishment parties"

      Everybody is a Muslim Scholar these days, but they also have a sense of humour?

      "In court, all Muslim witnesses I saw cross-examined were asked, “did you give curry out to voters?” which made something of a surreal spectacle."

      link to

  • Forgiving the anti-Semites
    • I'll scrape anecdote off my foot later but,

      "to her half of the house." she gave you half the house? Be realistic your garage is not half the house.

      The Yiddish song link was fascinating, an exotic world I never knew existed. All so coy is that what Moyshe Nadir was rebelling against ( who, as you will note in this link, is well wrapped up as his wife also confined him to the car port )

      link to

  • AIPAC-backed legislation targeting BDS movement advances in Congress
    • May I interject,

      Narrative hygiene is a most necessary and important practice, look what happened to Joel L Kraemer, late of Tel Aviv University, he studied the other historical "narratives" of his region producing the excellent volume by Tabari among others

      link to

      which is full of interesting stuff, who knows what imtihan means?

      But just look what that lead to

      link to

      It turns out that Judaism is Islam, and though I am not entirely sure I believe Hostage has conferred on me authority in these matters, anyway, Welcome home, aahlan, as we say wa sahhlan, you have no idea where you have landed nor amongst whom you have fallen.

  • Palestinian teenager is shot dead at a checkpoint outside Jerusalem
    • "I find it stunning how some people can consider themselves well informed on current events, and not be aware of what is going on right around them"

      Meanwhile back in Utopia:

      "We follow George Orwell's Road To Wigan Pier where poverty is now worse than the 1930s:

      In the vestry of St Barnabus Church in Wigan, the vicar is close to tears.

      “If I am honest, I am tired,” the Rev Denise Hayes says, serving hot tea against the bleakness of the weather outside.

      “I am tired of burying people who have committed suicide.”

      Out in the church, a family lights candles for their son who has taken his own life. “He was only 33,” Rev Denise says. “But there’s only so much people can take. Only so much a community can take.”

      She has seen it all in the year she has been at St Barnabus.

      The Church Urban Fund – set up to help impoverished areas – ranks her parish of Marsh Green as number 12,588 out of 12,660 suffering multiple deprivation. Child poverty runs at 45 per cent.

      “It is wicked what this ­Government is doing,” says Denise. “We have children with ­hypothermia. We have had to open a satellite food bank because people were walking miles from town with bags of heavy tins.

      “None of the houses round here have carpets. You see sheets and towels on an asphalt floor. The levels of poverty are soul destroying.”

      link to

  • Thorny issues
    • Thank you,

      The rough and tumble of village life and the German connection put me in mind of Hans Alexander Winkler and his relationship with that village boy Abd al Radi recorded in this classic: "Ghost Riders of Upper Egypt",

      link to

  • Using the dead: the 'NYT' works with Israel to justify military service
    • yes thank you and "Ou est Charlie?"

      Scott MackIntyre fired for failure to tweet acceptably about Anzac commemorations.

      "The cultification of an imperialist invasion of a foreign nation that Australia had no quarrel with is against all ideals of modern society."

      "Wonder if the poorly-read, largely white, nationalist drinkers and gamblers pause today to consider the horror that all mankind suffered."

      "Remembering the summary execution, widespread rape and theft committed by these ‘brave’ Anzacs in Egypt, Palestine and Japan." report:

      "“Respect for Australian audiences is paramount at SBS,” Mr Ebeid and Mr Shipp said in a statement.

      “Late on Anzac Day, sports presenter Scott McIntyre made highly inappropriate and disrespectful comments via his twitter account which have caused his on-air position at SBS to become untenable."

      link to

  • Learning Arabic in Al 'Azza camp
    • I have a Palestinian friend from Bethlehem who asked her father

      "Are we Christians or Muslims?"

      "Who gave you these names" He inquired "We are Marxists"

  • The moral hypocrisy of American Muslims for Palestine on the Armenian Genocide
  • Kristol frets that he walked into Obama's 'trap,' and Rubio says he'll demand Iran recognize 'Israel's right to exist'
    • "Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi on Friday said his country had deployed naval and air forces as part of the coalition’s efforts in Yemen, saying that anything else would require him to tell the public."

      right I'm telling....even Mu "la vache qui rit" Barak is not as hilarious as this guy,

      Harry AQ and Isis mainly kill Sunni's, mainly and destroy their stuff, just like Americans, we of course are devoted to both.

      Medievalists? not really if you knew anything about Medieval Islam, I think they are unprecedented, or what era would best represent them I cant say, perhaps something from the future.

      "or the Sunni, and everyone else in the middle east, as well as ourselves have a huge problem"

      Sunnis already have a myriad, a few anti-deluvian headchoppers, sure we'll hardly notice, it has been decreed, the MENA is going to burn, anyone permitting Egyptian troops to join their depredations had better dig a grave, Egypt we would be bad... if we weren't useless.

      But tell me Harry why would Insane Sunni sectarians inconvenience "ourselves", haven't we relied on them for generations? Sponsored, armed and protected them? Now you saying there is something wrong.

  • Understanding the Jewish National Home
    • Its always the vowels, bastards.

    • "and horrible for the Palestinians, who are cursed with activists like you"

      My GOD he is reaching out (don't get any on you)

    • I was going to leave a rude comment on the Slater article, only because of the "claiming all of Palestine for the Arabs" absurdity, but am now too drunk and stoned to find it, and I read Hostages post here, I read every word he posts, so dont take this the wrong way but H you exemplifies just how a good Alim (spiritual scholar) operates, calm, clear, dignified, humorous, to the point and gentle, you are a class act Sir, from the most ignorant and injurious of the Muslims gamal, respect Sir.

  • Just like the Nazis, Iran 'plans to exterminate six million Jews' -- Netanyahu
    • the dove flyer? Jon why do you hate literature, this is parlous. The belly dancer, miss Sylvia, that other Iraqi Saddam also wrote turgid novels, Iraq is often the female lead, symbolism makes me want to puke hot red ink everywhere.

      I always liked Bar Moshes' tart surreal little epigram " A man without his house is an illusion" from "Bayt Fi Baghdad",but each to his own, I dont like narratives, and as a writer i never tell stories, i loved bar M's fractured incompleteness, occluded memory, what mummy and daddy told us, the whole cosmology of the 3 storied structure, the al sirdab thing delighted me, its a gas, reminded me of Habibi or even in some ways Mernissi.

      "There was no window in our house that looked out on to the street. But our house overlooked the whole world. In it were the sky and air, the earth and the clouds, the sun, the moon, and the stars"

      better for me than the below, has B Fi B been filmed in israel?, Anwar as in Abu Anwar below, means luminous, nice name, But really Amira seems not to be a Jewish princess, as I understand it, perhaps the subtext eludes me.

      "In this novel, Eli Amir skilfully unfolds the story of Iraqi Jewry on the eve of its immigration to Israel in 1950, two years after the establishment of the state. The events are conveyed through the eyes of 17-year-old Kabi Amari whose father, Salman, a Zionist, dreams of emigrating to Israel and growing rice there, like his grandfather. The novel is also the story of the other Amari family members and their neighbors in Baghdad`s Jewish quarter. Kabi`s Uncle Hizkel, a journalist and member of the Zionist underground, is arrested and locked up in Baghdad`s central jail together with other Zionist activists. Communists are also targets of the regime, and one family member, Salim Effendi, a high school vice-principal, believes the Jews will be safe only when the communists take power. Salim, an educated man who looks like Clark Gable, dreams of a progressive Iraq in which Jews and Muslims will live as equals. He falls in love with a famous belly dancer, but as a Jew he stands no chance of winning her heart. In the meantime he has an affair with an English teacher, Miss Sylvia, a liberated young Londoner who has fallen in love with the magic of the Orient. And there are the Jews who do not dream of change and revolution, but simply want to continue their lives as before. One of them is Salman`s neighbor, Abu Anwar, who raises pigeons. His beautiful daughter Amira, an outstanding student, runs away from home and secretly emigrates to Israel.
      Persecution is rife, opponents of the regime are hanged in the city square, and execution awaits Hizkel too. Posing as a tea vendor, Kabi visits him in jail, while Rashel, Hizkel’s wife, tries to obtain his freedom through a Muslim lawyer who later becomes her lover. When the government allows the Jews to leave the country, Hizkel and Rashel stay behind. Salman and his family join the thousands of Jews leaving Iraq. They dream of a house and garden in Israel, but when they arrive they land on the cruel ground of reality. Instead of a house they are given a tent, and the dream of growing rice is also quickly shattered. They know they must start everything from scratch."

    • ok the Farhud, i like Giladi but should you wish to you will find a lot of others reporting the same stuff and placing it all in context, there is Ari Alexander's "Jews of Baghdad 1920-48" a brief paper he wrote while at Magdalen (pronounced Maudlin, which you no doubt know) college Oxford, the approach you are taking to this is hopelessly shallow, your final paragraph is just silly, you give the impression of knowing little to nothing of what the documentary record has to offer about the situation in Iraq during the second world war, and the forces at work in Iraq, dont you teach history? what was going on in Iraq say from 1917 to 63?

      "The Riots of 1941

      If, as I have said, my family in Iraq was not persecuted personally and I knew no deprivation as a member of the Jewish minority, what led me to the steps of the gallows as a member of the Zionist underground? To answer that question, it is necessary to establish the context of the massacre that occurred in Baghdad on June 1, 1941, when several hundred Iraqi Jews were killed in riots involving junior officers of the Iraqi army. I was 12 years of age and many of those killed were my friends. I was angry, and very confused.

      What I didn't know at the time was that the riots most likely were stirred up by the British, in collusion with a pro-British Iraqi leadership.

      With the breakup of the Ottoman Empire following WW I, Iraq came under British "tutelage." Amir Faisal, son of Sharif Hussein who had led the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman sultan, was brought in from Mecca by the British to become King of Iraq in 1921. Many Jews were appointed to key administrative posts, including that of economics minister. Britain retained final authority over domestic and external affairs. Britain's pro-Zionist attitude in Palestine, however, triggered a growing anti-Zionist backlash in Iraq, as it did in all Arab countries. Writing at the end of 1934, Sir Francis Humphreys, Britain's Ambassador in Baghdad, noted that, while before WW I Iraqi Jews had enjoyed a more favorable position than any other minority in the country, since then "Zionism has sown dissension between Jews and Arabs, and a bitterness has grown up between the two peoples which did not previously exist."

      King Faisal died in 1933. He was succeeded by his son Ghazi, who died in a motor car accident in 1939. The crown then passed to Ghazi's 4-year-old son, Faisal II, whose uncle, Abd al-Ilah, was named regent. Abd al-Ilah selected Nouri el-Said as prime minister. El-Said supported the British and, as hatred of the British grew, he was forced from office in March 1940 by four senior army officers who advocated Iraq's independence from Britain. Calling themselves the Golden Square, the officers compelled the regent to name as prime minister Rashid Ali al-Kilani, leader of the National Brotherhood party.

      The time was 1940 and Britain was reeling from a strong German offensive. Al-Kilani and the Golden Square saw this as their opportunity to rid themselves of the British once and for all. Cautiously they began to negotiate for German support, which led the pro-British regent Abd al-Ilah to dismiss al-Kilani in January 1941. By April, however, the Golden Square officers had reinstated the prime minister.

      This provoked the British to send a military force into Basra on April 12, 1941. Basra, Iraq's second largest city, had a Jewish population of 30,000. Most of these Jews made their livings from import/export, money changing, retailing, as workers in the airports, railways, and ports, or as senior government employees.

      On the same day, April 12, supporters of the pro-British regent notified the Jewish leaders that the regent wanted to meet with them. As was their custom, the leaders brought flowers for the regent. Contrary to custom, however, the cars that drove them to the meeting place dropped them off at the site where the British soldiers were concentrated.

      Photographs of the Jews appeared in the following day's newspapers with the banner "Basra Jews Receive British Troops with Flowers." That same day, April 13, groups of angry Arab youths set about to take revenge against the Jews. Several Muslim notables in Basra heard of the plan and calmed things down. Later, it was learned that the regent was not in Basra at all and that the matter was a provocation by his pro-British supporters to bring about an ethnic war in order to give the British army a pretext to intervene.

      The British continued to land more forces in and around Basra. On May 7, 1941, their Gurkha unit, composed of Indian soldiers from that ethnic group, occupied Basra's el-Oshar quarter, a neighborhood with a large Jewish population. The soldiers, led by British officers, began looting. Many shops in the commercial district were plundered. Private homes were broken into. Cases of attempted rape were reported. Local residents, Jews and Muslims, responded with pistols and old rifles, but their bullets were no match for the soldiers' Tommy Guns."

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      And this not really very polemical but if its good enough for Zvi ben Dor then...

      "Invisible Exile: Iraqi Jews In Israel"

      Iraqi Jews have been living more then five decades as Israeli citizens,and the overwhelming majority of them identify the Jewish state as their home. Yet many of them accept the notion that they are in a “Babylonian Exile.”

      link to

      The Farhud wasnt a pogrom, it refers, in the Arab mind, to the complete breakdown of security engineered by the British, which also affected Iraqi Jews, sure, but thats hardly the whole story, Ari is very good on all that. so here's the link again

      link to

      Did Professor Gil let students who hadn't done the reading remain in seminars?

      As a reward get yourself a copy of "Instructions for American Servicemen in Iraq during World War II", compare it too the 2003 one, you will laugh and laugh, oddly no mention of the eternal Sunni/Shia conflict, if i recall correctly, I want one decorated with those Abu Ghraib photo's, coffee table size.

      link to

    • ah yes Nuri es-Said, that agent of the British, rendering him as al said implies that your expertise in this matter may be limited,

      link to

      and further, its deja vu all over again

      useful background, some can be read for free, i guess you will be able to find the relevant pages

      link to

      and for those that like simplicity an interesting list and yet more background

      link to

      and an interesting note from the wiki article that cant get his name right, but getting closer,

      "Nuri and his wife had one son, Sabah As-Said. Sabah married an Egyptian heiress, and in 1939 he married Nadia Maslia, the daughter of wealthy Jewish Baghdadi bankers.[13] Apart from Nadia and their son Ahlam who had moved to Israel, all of Nuri's family and descendants were killed in the 1958 coup."

      weird eh.

  • Israel could reduce anti-Semitic violence by not calling itself the Jewish state, Finkelstein says
    • Dear Annie I didnt know there were replies, and the argument seems decided, but,

      I had this friend Nurse in Cheapside near Junction, pretty little woman, she would try, when on a date to be demure, ladylike and then the music play, the drink flow and Nurse couldn't help her self whinding against every man, blouse open, hips winding, these guys start out liturgical but Africa just busts through drums must beat, they cant help it.. our hearts beat only because of them

    • "actually constitutes libel" its true never have anything in your mouth when reading hasbarists,

      but it "actually constitutes a libel", je ne charlie pas? ( 8 years of french) what happened to Richard Witty with straining heart, ok I may have exhausted my posting african music videos but honestly you would really benefit from a little sarkin muri, specifically, Dankwairo, they are healers, it constitutes an Islam.

    • I swear Hophmi, look in to her eyes, its just a small thing, a slight attitude adjustment, no joke look at her, we are all in this together, Sibombo- salamatu

    • ok, its weird because this reply appears to be above the previously sort of relevant one however as an act cultural benevolence, i meant it, i would like to offer Salamatu Mai Gurmi to all

      Imagine if you had a mere two strings, you moog corrupted fools, yet you could do this, God loves Nigerians, of the north, more than others, and who could blame him

    • Jewish “appearance Jewish “behavior”?

      You know something man, its so dispiriting, when I lived in Kano this is how i learned Islam as an infant running up and down the ranks and leaping around the central space, as a teenager in the ranks, I wish I was with those people right now, and then some one says they are going to read the Qur'an (spellchecker wants an apostrophe), to understand Islam, watch it, its cool the last one I was at in '75 went on for 3 days, they dont even have to try they are rhythm, they never weary, never.

  • Stanford Hillel defied Hillel guidelines by hosting Gottlieb -- 'and no one burst into flames'
    • "Daddy giveth, and Daddy taketh away."

      And Mummy, Daddy only does what Mummy tells him, She is standing behind you, isn't She.

  • White House 'trolls' Netanyahu by co-opting infamous UN cartoon to sell Iran deal
    • I would like point out that while I in no way understand

      Do not attach 'been", interrupted education, slovenliness etc

      On your authority it will be my slogan, did I attach it? i didn't mean to.

      A man like you should have copy of Sa'adi Youseff ( Spellchecker suggests : Sadist Houseflys) "Without an Alphabet, Without a Face" in his library

      link to

      I had no real regard for youseff, till i read his lines about an affair, he looked at the windowsill in his rented room and

      "Like a narrow bed" I'm a cheap date, he had me from then on.

    • Dear Roha,

      "first declension nominative", I can't breath, that's some hot shit, if I am really good, would second declension be possible.

      I was taught Latin according to the New Cambridge Method, and thus I have no grammar, in the Cambridge method there was no Dative, Genitive, it was type A, B, etc, I am thus grammatically impaired.

      As to the plural of Roha, I meant Rohae, but wrote Rohi, I blame Tolkien.

      Truth is there is something really interesting here, Roha, you are speaking in favour of the exactness of Indo-European, like the philosophical exactness and positivism of Sanskrit.

      My friend Dr. Hans-Georg Muller has another fuzzy Mandarin view

      link to

      Check it all out, you might enjoy it.

      You need to walk the line R, I am an endless source of chaos in respect of the "fact" that no one knows what Arabic means, we live in an unsolvable ambiguity, but still are lost without you. My English is nearly fluent but still my senses are incoherent (CF. van morrison)

      Jews understand me.

    • "The primary question in historical Arabic linguistics is this: How did Arabic diglossia originate and develop?"

      This is what happens when there are insufficient Rohi, is that what you want, diglossia?

      The Arabics are a linguistic chaos but... The Arab RoHa battalion (Normative Language Academics) has taken up the challenge. Violating convention would be no fun at all without stern correction. (all errors unintentional, if its error free, yay.)

      Modern Linguistic Situation in the Arabic Language

      Modern Arabic, both Standard and colloquial, is not static. The colloquials have undergone and will likely continue to undergo great change. Unfortunately, until recently they have not been closely studied, and therefore it is difficult to document any changes they may have undergone. It is easier, however, to document changes in Modern Standard Arabic.

      One on-going trend in Modern Standard Arabic is modernization. Modernization involves the creation of new terms for concepts which didnít exist in earlier times. Like many other speakers around the world, Arabic speakers are sensitive to the wholesale borrowing of words. In fact, they are perhaps more sensitive to language change because most Arabs recognize Arabic as the language of God. Such a concept doesnít accommodate language change well. As a result, normative language academies have been established in several areas throughout the Arab world including Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, and Amman (Bakalla 11).

      The language academies try to control borrowing by creating terms for new technological entities. Their typical means for doing this include extension, calques, and a process known as Arabization. A common example of extension involves the Standard Arabic word for car, sayy_ra. This word originally meant caravan of camels but has been redefined to mean car. Calques are more obvious in such phrases as kurat al-qadam, which is literally ball of the foot or football (soccer) (Bakalla 12). Arabization, on the other hand, involves the adoption of a foreign word, but with changes which make it acceptable to Arabic morphological and phonological patterns (Bakalla 13).

      Another trend I have noticed in both personal experience and in researching is how Arabs have the expectation that the Arab world is slowly turning toward Modern Standard Arabic as its mother tongue. This trend takes two parts. In my experience, Arabs uniformly disparage the colloquial dialects they speak natively. For example, a teaching assistant in my current Arabic language class emphasizes every time she tells us a colloquial Arabic word that it is, "slang." The other part of this phenomenon is that Arabs expect that Modern Standard Arabic is eventually going to prevail as the L1 in the Arab world. Ferguson noted this tendency when he stated there is an expectation among Arabs that Modern Standard Arabic will take over the Arab world (Myths 255). I was introduced to this idea personally in May of 1997 when, during a conversation with a taxi driver in Amman, Jordan, I was told that I needed to speak Standard Arabic. This, despite the fact, as I told him, that no one actually speaks Standard Arabic natively."

      A Brief History of the Arabic Language

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  • Faithwashing: the Muslim Leadership Institute and the academic boycott
    • I see I may be in error,

      link to

    • Dear Mr. Eisen,

      I swear i remember drafting letters with my wife, we ran Dr. MAZ Badawi's office, to you as a Rabbi, the truth is that almost all the Jews we dealt with were Rabbi's, I seem to be an unreliable narrator of my own experience, obviously you would know, I cant tell you how concrete this misconception is in my mind, are you sure? could you have forgotten that you were once a Rabbi like I have that i used to be an Arab.

    • I must have the wrong the person, sorry, i linked to a site and you know my memory is not 100%, but you must know if you were involved with DYR, my appologies if i have seized the wrong end of the stick it may well have been Dr. B who referred to you as such, are there two P. Eisens?

    • sorry weed and whiskey caused me to forget link to David Goldberg

      link to

    • I should just like to point out that my entirely disconnected post below is the result of my failing to be sufficiently coherent and civil in a previous post, I can express the following politely,

      I was a founding apparatchik of the 3 faiths forum an employee of Sheikh Sir Dr MAZ Badawi and Sir Sigmund Sternberg,

      link to

      I would like to assert that Hophmi's notion of outreach is fundamentally incoherent, outreach by its very nature must be public and is a two way process that rarely involves screaming racist shit at one another, as can be found extensively in Hophmi's archive, I met guy's like "Arab lover" Rabbi David Goldberg, we didn't agree but David, who avoided lying, unlike Zionists.

      Sorry to have inconvenienced the moderator, mores are hard to abide by, you are very generous.

      edit : oh and still there was a little edit, i shouldn't be left out alone.

    • Also at the behest of Jewish and Arab friends we were instrumental in establishing Deir Yassin Remembered, with a man who I knew as Rabbi Paul Eisen, though I think he no longer uses a title and is reputedly an Anti-Semite.

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  • Bibi talk: 'New York Review of Books' trivializes Israeli fascism
    • one of the absurdities of Arabic is that the diminutive is mostly longer than its proper form, both Husayn (Hussein) and Sulayman are diminutives of Hassan and Salman respectively,

      many words in Arabic can be diminuted, like blood, rib, dead, in Arabic adjectives are noun like.

      diminution in Arabic is achieved via some rather strict rules of infixation, depending on the tri- or quatri-lateral root, in Arabic even the infinitive is not exempted from being diminuted.

      even relative and demonstrative pronouns can be diminuted, I'd never use Bibi though its disgusting.

  • 'She speaks the truth:' Palestinian leftist parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar arrested in early-morning Israeli raid
    • "i question, is it because of their support for armed resistance? is courage also a crime in palestine?”

      Here Julia agrees with you, in this inspiring and clarifying statement, and I along with others here salute you Annie.

  • DEAL!
    • well the FA is still a touch ambiguous, following the old cockney usage, well here is a lesson in that expletive's use by the great Ian Dury,

      the line "followed by builders and bells" manages to be hilarious and poignant all at once, its an idiom like septic for American (Sceptic Tank=Yank) i think he did Spasticus Autisticus in Nassau with Sly and Robbie. The linked track could be Phineas' boy's theme tune.

      here endeth the lesson

    • Israel is the land of Yona,

      she once said "After Jesus there must come Yona, thats obvious" she died 10 years or so ago.

      the poem below was a cause celebre long ago. She was the last of the "Hebrews" quite a transformation from the first, Bialik, she writes better stuff but is best known for the below, a proper poet, crazy wild child vortex of a woman.

      Tefillin- Yona Wallach

      Come to me Let me do nothing
      You do it for me
      Do everything for me
      Everything I start to do
      You do instead
      I will lay tefillin I’ll pray
      You lay the tefillin for me
      Bind them on my arms
      Play with them inside me
      Pass them delicately over my body
      Rub them against me
      Arouse me everywhere
      Make me faint with sensations
      Run them across my clitoris
      Tie up my hips with them
      So I can come quickly
      Play with them inside me
      Tie up my hands and legs
      Do things to me
      Against my will
      Turn me over on my stomach
      Put the tefillin in my mouth a bridle bit
      Ride me I am a mare
      Pull my head back
      Until I shriek with pain
      And you are pleasured
      Later I will pass them over your body
      With unconcealed intention
      Oh, how cruel my face will be
      I will pass them slowly over your body
      Slowly slowly slowly
      Around your throat I’ll pass them
      I will wind one end a few times around your throat
      And tie the other to something stable
      Something very heavy perhaps rotating
      I’ll pull and I’ll pull
      Until your last breath escapes
      Until I strangle you
      Completely with the tefillin

  • Video: Max Blumenthal on the ways Zionism exploits anti-Semitism
    • And in Jewish News, this ones for you M, but you will have to read at least Half of it to see why, they have sent Jerry Zeid to catch Derfners bus , bloodthirsty is only implied, but the rest is there.

      Americans may be offended, Jews as ever terrified, but here is a guy who perhaps over indiginized, it does happen you know.

      link to

  • Open Hillel's big month: Swarthmore 'Kehilah' is born and a student resigns over Hillel restrictions
    • "to quote Rufus T. Firefly, “I object!” At the worst we would have to bamboozle the Judge with the patented “Who is Jew?”

      Pick me, Pick me!!! Listen i own a book on Tekyu, which makes me almost a Prophet.

      "and then demand a dismissal on the grounds that the other “purported Jews” are just a bunch of rotten scoundrels who had failed to state a claim (i.e. alleged a cause of action that doesn’t even exist). In any event, we could make a good counterclaim case over the way their flagrantly improper use of the terms “Jewish people” and “peace” – in the marketing of their “peace process” scam – had sullied everyone else’s good “Jewish” reputations, names"

      Jews are just like us (Muslims), dirty lying bastards, only the Christians can adjudicate,
      "Peace" Hostage you're a poet,, would you like to buy "Islam" ,
      good trademark, big following, no one knows what it might refer to, its anti-tribal or is that ante-tribal, sometimes white people are no fun, why all the despondency, the empire will totter, but it ain't falling anytime soon. USA, USA..etc. I have sold for considerable sums my assessment that the US oligarchy isnt falling anytime soon. Courage Mon Brave, long road in front of us.

  • Scripted Hate: What to expect when Campus Watch writes about you
    • ah O.Henry

      "Ha! cursed paleface, do you dare to enter the camp of Red Chief, the terror of the plains?

      "He's all right now," says Bill, rolling up his trousers and examining some bruises on his shins. "We're playing Indian. We're making Buffalo Bill's show look like magic-lantern views of Palestine in the town hall. I'm Old Hank, the Trapper, Red Chief's captive, and I'm to be scalped at daybreak. By Geronimo! that kid can kick hard."

      From Ransom of Red Chief

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      its so lasciviously allegorical..

  • A response to Michael Douglas
    • Have a great trip man, Ireland is full of surprises

    • "Where would be a good place to go for this? Dublin, Cork? I love to sail so maybe a coastal town? All suggestions appreciated."

      oh now you are just teasing, Cork of course West Cork, Glandore is full of sails, Castletownsend, Clonalkilty, Roscarbery, Glengariff, the real Baltimore invaded by white slaving Barbary Pirates
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      be careful not to drink too little.

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      They say the ring of Kerry is nice but its not in Cork, so best avoided, the Beara Peninsular will have to do.

      There is Schull, of the infamous murder case, still on going after all these years.

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      Looks like Ireland will win the the six nations, if England continue to allow France to slap them around, England need to win by 26 points but are now 7-15 behind, in the Rebel County joy is unconfined.

      So when are you coming, we cant wait and presume you will be doing the intelligent half of the conversation.

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  • Sheldon Adelson is not the problem
    • you would be well advised to start any study of Islam with a reading of a reputable Sirat ul Nabi, rather than reading the Quran.

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      for instance you will find Jews on page 82, but better read at least the Badr and Uhud sections first, if you have never read any sirat stuff.

      link is to shibli noamanis' well known work
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  • UC Berkeley Israel group wants to ban imaginary word rhyming with intifada as 'triggering, terrifying'
  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
  • WSJ columnist says 'I'm almost grateful' for attack on kosher supermarket that killed four
    • "In both cases, the root causes are religious and social stagnation. Neither, however, is essentialist in nature. Islam itself has and can again be the flower of civilization"

      Why thank you Daddy, how sweet.

      "essentialist in nature" sounds like a shampoo.

    • "The Yazidis are Christians."

      no they are assuredly not. Yazidi religion is syncretic, having large elements of Sufism, reputedly Zoroaster and Mithras, and other gnostic disciplines they also indulge in some Christian practices, we are still making shit up in the middle east.

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