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born part Arab part Scots/Irish, worked in training ulema for the european environment/ journalist broadcaster for many years working mainly for bbc. From a faction of euro-islam much favored by the establishment, writer etc nothing really of interest may as well move along.

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  • Learning Arabic in Al 'Azza camp
    • I have a Palestinian friend from Bethlehem who asked her father

      "Are we Christians or Muslims?"

      "Who gave you these names" He inquired "We are Marxists"

  • The moral hypocrisy of American Muslims for Palestine on the Armenian Genocide
  • Kristol frets that he walked into Obama's 'trap,' and Rubio says he'll demand Iran recognize 'Israel's right to exist'
    • "Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi on Friday said his country had deployed naval and air forces as part of the coalition’s efforts in Yemen, saying that anything else would require him to tell the public."

      right I'm telling....even Mu "la vache qui rit" Barak is not as hilarious as this guy,

      Harry AQ and Isis mainly kill Sunni's, mainly and destroy their stuff, just like Americans, we of course are devoted to both.

      Medievalists? not really if you knew anything about Medieval Islam, I think they are unprecedented, or what era would best represent them I cant say, perhaps something from the future.

      "or the Sunni, and everyone else in the middle east, as well as ourselves have a huge problem"

      Sunnis already have a myriad, a few anti-deluvian headchoppers, sure we'll hardly notice, it has been decreed, the MENA is going to burn, anyone permitting Egyptian troops to join their depredations had better dig a grave, Egypt we would be bad... if we weren't useless.

      But tell me Harry why would Insane Sunni sectarians inconvenience "ourselves", haven't we relied on them for generations? Sponsored, armed and protected them? Now you saying there is something wrong.

  • Understanding the Jewish National Home
    • Its always the vowels, bastards.

    • "and horrible for the Palestinians, who are cursed with activists like you"

      My GOD he is reaching out (don't get any on you)

    • I was going to leave a rude comment on the Slater article, only because of the "claiming all of Palestine for the Arabs" absurdity, but am now too drunk and stoned to find it, and I read Hostages post here, I read every word he posts, so dont take this the wrong way but H you exemplifies just how a good Alim (spiritual scholar) operates, calm, clear, dignified, humorous, to the point and gentle, you are a class act Sir, from the most ignorant and injurious of the Muslims gamal, respect Sir.

  • Just like the Nazis, Iran 'plans to exterminate six million Jews' -- Netanyahu
    • the dove flyer? Jon why do you hate literature, this is parlous. The belly dancer, miss Sylvia, that other Iraqi Saddam also wrote turgid novels, Iraq is often the female lead, symbolism makes me want to puke hot red ink everywhere.

      I always liked Bar Moshes' tart surreal little epigram " A man without his house is an illusion" from "Bayt Fi Baghdad",but each to his own, I dont like narratives, and as a writer i never tell stories, i loved bar M's fractured incompleteness, occluded memory, what mummy and daddy told us, the whole cosmology of the 3 storied structure, the al sirdab thing delighted me, its a gas, reminded me of Habibi or even in some ways Mernissi.

      "There was no window in our house that looked out on to the street. But our house overlooked the whole world. In it were the sky and air, the earth and the clouds, the sun, the moon, and the stars"

      better for me than the below, has B Fi B been filmed in israel?, Anwar as in Abu Anwar below, means luminous, nice name, But really Amira seems not to be a Jewish princess, as I understand it, perhaps the subtext eludes me.

      "In this novel, Eli Amir skilfully unfolds the story of Iraqi Jewry on the eve of its immigration to Israel in 1950, two years after the establishment of the state. The events are conveyed through the eyes of 17-year-old Kabi Amari whose father, Salman, a Zionist, dreams of emigrating to Israel and growing rice there, like his grandfather. The novel is also the story of the other Amari family members and their neighbors in Baghdad`s Jewish quarter. Kabi`s Uncle Hizkel, a journalist and member of the Zionist underground, is arrested and locked up in Baghdad`s central jail together with other Zionist activists. Communists are also targets of the regime, and one family member, Salim Effendi, a high school vice-principal, believes the Jews will be safe only when the communists take power. Salim, an educated man who looks like Clark Gable, dreams of a progressive Iraq in which Jews and Muslims will live as equals. He falls in love with a famous belly dancer, but as a Jew he stands no chance of winning her heart. In the meantime he has an affair with an English teacher, Miss Sylvia, a liberated young Londoner who has fallen in love with the magic of the Orient. And there are the Jews who do not dream of change and revolution, but simply want to continue their lives as before. One of them is Salman`s neighbor, Abu Anwar, who raises pigeons. His beautiful daughter Amira, an outstanding student, runs away from home and secretly emigrates to Israel.
      Persecution is rife, opponents of the regime are hanged in the city square, and execution awaits Hizkel too. Posing as a tea vendor, Kabi visits him in jail, while Rashel, Hizkel’s wife, tries to obtain his freedom through a Muslim lawyer who later becomes her lover. When the government allows the Jews to leave the country, Hizkel and Rashel stay behind. Salman and his family join the thousands of Jews leaving Iraq. They dream of a house and garden in Israel, but when they arrive they land on the cruel ground of reality. Instead of a house they are given a tent, and the dream of growing rice is also quickly shattered. They know they must start everything from scratch."

    • ok the Farhud, i like Giladi but should you wish to you will find a lot of others reporting the same stuff and placing it all in context, there is Ari Alexander's "Jews of Baghdad 1920-48" a brief paper he wrote while at Magdalen (pronounced Maudlin, which you no doubt know) college Oxford, the approach you are taking to this is hopelessly shallow, your final paragraph is just silly, you give the impression of knowing little to nothing of what the documentary record has to offer about the situation in Iraq during the second world war, and the forces at work in Iraq, dont you teach history? what was going on in Iraq say from 1917 to 63?

      "The Riots of 1941

      If, as I have said, my family in Iraq was not persecuted personally and I knew no deprivation as a member of the Jewish minority, what led me to the steps of the gallows as a member of the Zionist underground? To answer that question, it is necessary to establish the context of the massacre that occurred in Baghdad on June 1, 1941, when several hundred Iraqi Jews were killed in riots involving junior officers of the Iraqi army. I was 12 years of age and many of those killed were my friends. I was angry, and very confused.

      What I didn't know at the time was that the riots most likely were stirred up by the British, in collusion with a pro-British Iraqi leadership.

      With the breakup of the Ottoman Empire following WW I, Iraq came under British "tutelage." Amir Faisal, son of Sharif Hussein who had led the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman sultan, was brought in from Mecca by the British to become King of Iraq in 1921. Many Jews were appointed to key administrative posts, including that of economics minister. Britain retained final authority over domestic and external affairs. Britain's pro-Zionist attitude in Palestine, however, triggered a growing anti-Zionist backlash in Iraq, as it did in all Arab countries. Writing at the end of 1934, Sir Francis Humphreys, Britain's Ambassador in Baghdad, noted that, while before WW I Iraqi Jews had enjoyed a more favorable position than any other minority in the country, since then "Zionism has sown dissension between Jews and Arabs, and a bitterness has grown up between the two peoples which did not previously exist."

      King Faisal died in 1933. He was succeeded by his son Ghazi, who died in a motor car accident in 1939. The crown then passed to Ghazi's 4-year-old son, Faisal II, whose uncle, Abd al-Ilah, was named regent. Abd al-Ilah selected Nouri el-Said as prime minister. El-Said supported the British and, as hatred of the British grew, he was forced from office in March 1940 by four senior army officers who advocated Iraq's independence from Britain. Calling themselves the Golden Square, the officers compelled the regent to name as prime minister Rashid Ali al-Kilani, leader of the National Brotherhood party.

      The time was 1940 and Britain was reeling from a strong German offensive. Al-Kilani and the Golden Square saw this as their opportunity to rid themselves of the British once and for all. Cautiously they began to negotiate for German support, which led the pro-British regent Abd al-Ilah to dismiss al-Kilani in January 1941. By April, however, the Golden Square officers had reinstated the prime minister.

      This provoked the British to send a military force into Basra on April 12, 1941. Basra, Iraq's second largest city, had a Jewish population of 30,000. Most of these Jews made their livings from import/export, money changing, retailing, as workers in the airports, railways, and ports, or as senior government employees.

      On the same day, April 12, supporters of the pro-British regent notified the Jewish leaders that the regent wanted to meet with them. As was their custom, the leaders brought flowers for the regent. Contrary to custom, however, the cars that drove them to the meeting place dropped them off at the site where the British soldiers were concentrated.

      Photographs of the Jews appeared in the following day's newspapers with the banner "Basra Jews Receive British Troops with Flowers." That same day, April 13, groups of angry Arab youths set about to take revenge against the Jews. Several Muslim notables in Basra heard of the plan and calmed things down. Later, it was learned that the regent was not in Basra at all and that the matter was a provocation by his pro-British supporters to bring about an ethnic war in order to give the British army a pretext to intervene.

      The British continued to land more forces in and around Basra. On May 7, 1941, their Gurkha unit, composed of Indian soldiers from that ethnic group, occupied Basra's el-Oshar quarter, a neighborhood with a large Jewish population. The soldiers, led by British officers, began looting. Many shops in the commercial district were plundered. Private homes were broken into. Cases of attempted rape were reported. Local residents, Jews and Muslims, responded with pistols and old rifles, but their bullets were no match for the soldiers' Tommy Guns."

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      And this not really very polemical but if its good enough for Zvi ben Dor then...

      "Invisible Exile: Iraqi Jews In Israel"

      Iraqi Jews have been living more then five decades as Israeli citizens,and the overwhelming majority of them identify the Jewish state as their home. Yet many of them accept the notion that they are in a “Babylonian Exile.”

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      The Farhud wasnt a pogrom, it refers, in the Arab mind, to the complete breakdown of security engineered by the British, which also affected Iraqi Jews, sure, but thats hardly the whole story, Ari is very good on all that. so here's the link again

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      Did Professor Gil let students who hadn't done the reading remain in seminars?

      As a reward get yourself a copy of "Instructions for American Servicemen in Iraq during World War II", compare it too the 2003 one, you will laugh and laugh, oddly no mention of the eternal Sunni/Shia conflict, if i recall correctly, I want one decorated with those Abu Ghraib photo's, coffee table size.

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    • ah yes Nuri es-Said, that agent of the British, rendering him as al said implies that your expertise in this matter may be limited,

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      and further, its deja vu all over again

      useful background, some can be read for free, i guess you will be able to find the relevant pages

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      and for those that like simplicity an interesting list and yet more background

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      and an interesting note from the wiki article that cant get his name right, but getting closer,

      "Nuri and his wife had one son, Sabah As-Said. Sabah married an Egyptian heiress, and in 1939 he married Nadia Maslia, the daughter of wealthy Jewish Baghdadi bankers.[13] Apart from Nadia and their son Ahlam who had moved to Israel, all of Nuri's family and descendants were killed in the 1958 coup."

      weird eh.

  • Israel could reduce anti-Semitic violence by not calling itself the Jewish state, Finkelstein says
    • Dear Annie I didnt know there were replies, and the argument seems decided, but,

      I had this friend Nurse in Cheapside near Junction, pretty little woman, she would try, when on a date to be demure, ladylike and then the music play, the drink flow and Nurse couldn't help her self whinding against every man, blouse open, hips winding, these guys start out liturgical but Africa just busts through drums must beat, they cant help it.. our hearts beat only because of them

    • "actually constitutes libel" its true never have anything in your mouth when reading hasbarists,

      but it "actually constitutes a libel", je ne charlie pas? ( 8 years of french) what happened to Richard Witty with straining heart, ok I may have exhausted my posting african music videos but honestly you would really benefit from a little sarkin muri, specifically, Dankwairo, they are healers, it constitutes an Islam.

    • I swear Hophmi, look in to her eyes, its just a small thing, a slight attitude adjustment, no joke look at her, we are all in this together, Sibombo- salamatu

    • ok, its weird because this reply appears to be above the previously sort of relevant one however as an act cultural benevolence, i meant it, i would like to offer Salamatu Mai Gurmi to all

      Imagine if you had a mere two strings, you moog corrupted fools, yet you could do this, God loves Nigerians, of the north, more than others, and who could blame him

    • Jewish “appearance Jewish “behavior”?

      You know something man, its so dispiriting, when I lived in Kano this is how i learned Islam as an infant running up and down the ranks and leaping around the central space, as a teenager in the ranks, I wish I was with those people right now, and then some one says they are going to read the Qur'an (spellchecker wants an apostrophe), to understand Islam, watch it, its cool the last one I was at in '75 went on for 3 days, they dont even have to try they are rhythm, they never weary, never.

  • Stanford Hillel defied Hillel guidelines by hosting Gottlieb -- 'and no one burst into flames'
    • "Daddy giveth, and Daddy taketh away."

      And Mummy, Daddy only does what Mummy tells him, She is standing behind you, isn't She.

  • White House 'trolls' Netanyahu by co-opting infamous UN cartoon to sell Iran deal
    • I would like point out that while I in no way understand

      Do not attach 'been", interrupted education, slovenliness etc

      On your authority it will be my slogan, did I attach it? i didn't mean to.

      A man like you should have copy of Sa'adi Youseff ( Spellchecker suggests : Sadist Houseflys) "Without an Alphabet, Without a Face" in his library

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      I had no real regard for youseff, till i read his lines about an affair, he looked at the windowsill in his rented room and

      "Like a narrow bed" I'm a cheap date, he had me from then on.

    • Dear Roha,

      "first declension nominative", I can't breath, that's some hot shit, if I am really good, would second declension be possible.

      I was taught Latin according to the New Cambridge Method, and thus I have no grammar, in the Cambridge method there was no Dative, Genitive, it was type A, B, etc, I am thus grammatically impaired.

      As to the plural of Roha, I meant Rohae, but wrote Rohi, I blame Tolkien.

      Truth is there is something really interesting here, Roha, you are speaking in favour of the exactness of Indo-European, like the philosophical exactness and positivism of Sanskrit.

      My friend Dr. Hans-Georg Muller has another fuzzy Mandarin view

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      Check it all out, you might enjoy it.

      You need to walk the line R, I am an endless source of chaos in respect of the "fact" that no one knows what Arabic means, we live in an unsolvable ambiguity, but still are lost without you. My English is nearly fluent but still my senses are incoherent (CF. van morrison)

      Jews understand me.

    • "The primary question in historical Arabic linguistics is this: How did Arabic diglossia originate and develop?"

      This is what happens when there are insufficient Rohi, is that what you want, diglossia?

      The Arabics are a linguistic chaos but... The Arab RoHa battalion (Normative Language Academics) has taken up the challenge. Violating convention would be no fun at all without stern correction. (all errors unintentional, if its error free, yay.)

      Modern Linguistic Situation in the Arabic Language

      Modern Arabic, both Standard and colloquial, is not static. The colloquials have undergone and will likely continue to undergo great change. Unfortunately, until recently they have not been closely studied, and therefore it is difficult to document any changes they may have undergone. It is easier, however, to document changes in Modern Standard Arabic.

      One on-going trend in Modern Standard Arabic is modernization. Modernization involves the creation of new terms for concepts which didnít exist in earlier times. Like many other speakers around the world, Arabic speakers are sensitive to the wholesale borrowing of words. In fact, they are perhaps more sensitive to language change because most Arabs recognize Arabic as the language of God. Such a concept doesnít accommodate language change well. As a result, normative language academies have been established in several areas throughout the Arab world including Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, and Amman (Bakalla 11).

      The language academies try to control borrowing by creating terms for new technological entities. Their typical means for doing this include extension, calques, and a process known as Arabization. A common example of extension involves the Standard Arabic word for car, sayy_ra. This word originally meant caravan of camels but has been redefined to mean car. Calques are more obvious in such phrases as kurat al-qadam, which is literally ball of the foot or football (soccer) (Bakalla 12). Arabization, on the other hand, involves the adoption of a foreign word, but with changes which make it acceptable to Arabic morphological and phonological patterns (Bakalla 13).

      Another trend I have noticed in both personal experience and in researching is how Arabs have the expectation that the Arab world is slowly turning toward Modern Standard Arabic as its mother tongue. This trend takes two parts. In my experience, Arabs uniformly disparage the colloquial dialects they speak natively. For example, a teaching assistant in my current Arabic language class emphasizes every time she tells us a colloquial Arabic word that it is, "slang." The other part of this phenomenon is that Arabs expect that Modern Standard Arabic is eventually going to prevail as the L1 in the Arab world. Ferguson noted this tendency when he stated there is an expectation among Arabs that Modern Standard Arabic will take over the Arab world (Myths 255). I was introduced to this idea personally in May of 1997 when, during a conversation with a taxi driver in Amman, Jordan, I was told that I needed to speak Standard Arabic. This, despite the fact, as I told him, that no one actually speaks Standard Arabic natively."

      A Brief History of the Arabic Language

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  • Faithwashing: the Muslim Leadership Institute and the academic boycott
    • I see I may be in error,

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    • Dear Mr. Eisen,

      I swear i remember drafting letters with my wife, we ran Dr. MAZ Badawi's office, to you as a Rabbi, the truth is that almost all the Jews we dealt with were Rabbi's, I seem to be an unreliable narrator of my own experience, obviously you would know, I cant tell you how concrete this misconception is in my mind, are you sure? could you have forgotten that you were once a Rabbi like I have that i used to be an Arab.

    • I must have the wrong the person, sorry, i linked to a site and you know my memory is not 100%, but you must know if you were involved with DYR, my appologies if i have seized the wrong end of the stick it may well have been Dr. B who referred to you as such, are there two P. Eisens?

    • sorry weed and whiskey caused me to forget link to David Goldberg

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    • I should just like to point out that my entirely disconnected post below is the result of my failing to be sufficiently coherent and civil in a previous post, I can express the following politely,

      I was a founding apparatchik of the 3 faiths forum an employee of Sheikh Sir Dr MAZ Badawi and Sir Sigmund Sternberg,

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      I would like to assert that Hophmi's notion of outreach is fundamentally incoherent, outreach by its very nature must be public and is a two way process that rarely involves screaming racist shit at one another, as can be found extensively in Hophmi's archive, I met guy's like "Arab lover" Rabbi David Goldberg, we didn't agree but David, who avoided lying, unlike Zionists.

      Sorry to have inconvenienced the moderator, mores are hard to abide by, you are very generous.

      edit : oh and still there was a little edit, i shouldn't be left out alone.

    • Also at the behest of Jewish and Arab friends we were instrumental in establishing Deir Yassin Remembered, with a man who I knew as Rabbi Paul Eisen, though I think he no longer uses a title and is reputedly an Anti-Semite.

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  • Bibi talk: 'New York Review of Books' trivializes Israeli fascism
    • one of the absurdities of Arabic is that the diminutive is mostly longer than its proper form, both Husayn (Hussein) and Sulayman are diminutives of Hassan and Salman respectively,

      many words in Arabic can be diminuted, like blood, rib, dead, in Arabic adjectives are noun like.

      diminution in Arabic is achieved via some rather strict rules of infixation, depending on the tri- or quatri-lateral root, in Arabic even the infinitive is not exempted from being diminuted.

      even relative and demonstrative pronouns can be diminuted, I'd never use Bibi though its disgusting.

  • 'She speaks the truth:' Palestinian leftist parliamentarian Khalida Jarrar arrested in early-morning Israeli raid
    • "i question, is it because of their support for armed resistance? is courage also a crime in palestine?”

      Here Julia agrees with you, in this inspiring and clarifying statement, and I along with others here salute you Annie.

  • DEAL!
    • well the FA is still a touch ambiguous, following the old cockney usage, well here is a lesson in that expletive's use by the great Ian Dury,

      the line "followed by builders and bells" manages to be hilarious and poignant all at once, its an idiom like septic for American (Sceptic Tank=Yank) i think he did Spasticus Autisticus in Nassau with Sly and Robbie. The linked track could be Phineas' boy's theme tune.

      here endeth the lesson

    • Israel is the land of Yona,

      she once said "After Jesus there must come Yona, thats obvious" she died 10 years or so ago.

      the poem below was a cause celebre long ago. She was the last of the "Hebrews" quite a transformation from the first, Bialik, she writes better stuff but is best known for the below, a proper poet, crazy wild child vortex of a woman.

      Tefillin- Yona Wallach

      Come to me Let me do nothing
      You do it for me
      Do everything for me
      Everything I start to do
      You do instead
      I will lay tefillin I’ll pray
      You lay the tefillin for me
      Bind them on my arms
      Play with them inside me
      Pass them delicately over my body
      Rub them against me
      Arouse me everywhere
      Make me faint with sensations
      Run them across my clitoris
      Tie up my hips with them
      So I can come quickly
      Play with them inside me
      Tie up my hands and legs
      Do things to me
      Against my will
      Turn me over on my stomach
      Put the tefillin in my mouth a bridle bit
      Ride me I am a mare
      Pull my head back
      Until I shriek with pain
      And you are pleasured
      Later I will pass them over your body
      With unconcealed intention
      Oh, how cruel my face will be
      I will pass them slowly over your body
      Slowly slowly slowly
      Around your throat I’ll pass them
      I will wind one end a few times around your throat
      And tie the other to something stable
      Something very heavy perhaps rotating
      I’ll pull and I’ll pull
      Until your last breath escapes
      Until I strangle you
      Completely with the tefillin

  • Video: Max Blumenthal on the ways Zionism exploits anti-Semitism
    • And in Jewish News, this ones for you M, but you will have to read at least Half of it to see why, they have sent Jerry Zeid to catch Derfners bus , bloodthirsty is only implied, but the rest is there.

      Americans may be offended, Jews as ever terrified, but here is a guy who perhaps over indiginized, it does happen you know.

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  • Open Hillel's big month: Swarthmore 'Kehilah' is born and a student resigns over Hillel restrictions
    • "to quote Rufus T. Firefly, “I object!” At the worst we would have to bamboozle the Judge with the patented “Who is Jew?”

      Pick me, Pick me!!! Listen i own a book on Tekyu, which makes me almost a Prophet.

      "and then demand a dismissal on the grounds that the other “purported Jews” are just a bunch of rotten scoundrels who had failed to state a claim (i.e. alleged a cause of action that doesn’t even exist). In any event, we could make a good counterclaim case over the way their flagrantly improper use of the terms “Jewish people” and “peace” – in the marketing of their “peace process” scam – had sullied everyone else’s good “Jewish” reputations, names"

      Jews are just like us (Muslims), dirty lying bastards, only the Christians can adjudicate,
      "Peace" Hostage you're a poet,, would you like to buy "Islam" ,
      good trademark, big following, no one knows what it might refer to, its anti-tribal or is that ante-tribal, sometimes white people are no fun, why all the despondency, the empire will totter, but it ain't falling anytime soon. USA, USA..etc. I have sold for considerable sums my assessment that the US oligarchy isnt falling anytime soon. Courage Mon Brave, long road in front of us.

  • Scripted Hate: What to expect when Campus Watch writes about you
    • ah O.Henry

      "Ha! cursed paleface, do you dare to enter the camp of Red Chief, the terror of the plains?

      "He's all right now," says Bill, rolling up his trousers and examining some bruises on his shins. "We're playing Indian. We're making Buffalo Bill's show look like magic-lantern views of Palestine in the town hall. I'm Old Hank, the Trapper, Red Chief's captive, and I'm to be scalped at daybreak. By Geronimo! that kid can kick hard."

      From Ransom of Red Chief

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      its so lasciviously allegorical..

  • A response to Michael Douglas
    • Have a great trip man, Ireland is full of surprises

    • "Where would be a good place to go for this? Dublin, Cork? I love to sail so maybe a coastal town? All suggestions appreciated."

      oh now you are just teasing, Cork of course West Cork, Glandore is full of sails, Castletownsend, Clonalkilty, Roscarbery, Glengariff, the real Baltimore invaded by white slaving Barbary Pirates
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      be careful not to drink too little.

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      They say the ring of Kerry is nice but its not in Cork, so best avoided, the Beara Peninsular will have to do.

      There is Schull, of the infamous murder case, still on going after all these years.

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      Looks like Ireland will win the the six nations, if England continue to allow France to slap them around, England need to win by 26 points but are now 7-15 behind, in the Rebel County joy is unconfined.

      So when are you coming, we cant wait and presume you will be doing the intelligent half of the conversation.

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  • Sheldon Adelson is not the problem
    • you would be well advised to start any study of Islam with a reading of a reputable Sirat ul Nabi, rather than reading the Quran.

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      for instance you will find Jews on page 82, but better read at least the Badr and Uhud sections first, if you have never read any sirat stuff.

      link is to shibli noamanis' well known work
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  • UC Berkeley Israel group wants to ban imaginary word rhyming with intifada as 'triggering, terrifying'
  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
  • WSJ columnist says 'I'm almost grateful' for attack on kosher supermarket that killed four
    • "In both cases, the root causes are religious and social stagnation. Neither, however, is essentialist in nature. Islam itself has and can again be the flower of civilization"

      Why thank you Daddy, how sweet.

      "essentialist in nature" sounds like a shampoo.

    • "The Yazidis are Christians."

      no they are assuredly not. Yazidi religion is syncretic, having large elements of Sufism, reputedly Zoroaster and Mithras, and other gnostic disciplines they also indulge in some Christian practices, we are still making shit up in the middle east.

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • "Why is that choice awkward and painful?"

      Because it could be very expensive for those who make the "wrong" one, US politicians are simply appalling, the entire shower is not worth Eugene V Debs nail pairings, he read Kautsky, you know (but not in reference to the eponymous effect) and led strikes and as you know was imprisoned, which was no doubt both awkward and painful, that's politics for everyone other than the whores of power.

      I think I speak for all of the rest of us when I say, you have our deepest sympathy, may your sick system be transformed soon and may you be defended from the monsters of CHRISIS as led by the Rev"s Hagee and Graham and others.

  • It's not about nukes, it's about the US shifting the power balance -- Parsi
    • “balance of terror,”

      Do many people know of the 1916-19 Iranian "famine" in which 40% of the population, some 7 to 9 millions or so are reputed to have died, the British blamed the Turks and Russians, you can still read polemical articles on Jstor and such where scholars argue as to responsibility for the catastrophe, the figures are not disputed just the blame.

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  • Israel turns off power to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the dead of winter
    • "arse" is a well composted and utterly wicked Anglo-Saxon word, like ****, there is no more excitingly transgressive word,

      "i use arse when i don’t want to get caught swearing!"

      You sound like the Queen of Bethnal Green, I suppose you plunder when you dont want to get caught stealing, will you have another jellied eel martini, ma'aam.

    • "What in god’s name is a ”Zionist dam”? one you cant blame on the Jews.

  • Congress flooded with letters urging members to #SkipTheSpeech of Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu
  • Inflammatory posters at UCLA call Students for Justice in Palestine 'Jew haters' (Updated)
    • well ibtimes has this

      "The SRC president Ayanda Ngidi however said that the call was to deregister only the "Zionists", or students funded by the government of Israel, and not all Jewish students.

      The call was made a day after former Palestinian activist Leila Khaled visited their Durban campus.

      Khaled, now in her 70s, is a lifetime member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and infamously remembered as an aeroplane hijacker for her daring acts many decades ago.

      She is currently on a fundraising tour for the Palestinian cause and was in South Africa to support the SA version of Boycott Disinvestment Sanctions' campaign to boycott Israeli goods."

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      I suggest an outreach program, where these students are reminded that Israel stood by South Africa when the whole world sanctioned her, how ungrateful of them.

  • Racism is in the air: Video showing racist exchange between Israelis and a flight attendant goes viral
    • Yes but amigo,

      "as she would treat “an Arab”."

      well yes but honestly would you want to be treated like an Arab, treating a Jew like an Arab is the very essence of Antisemitism, surprised you are not legally required to acknowledge that, cool new anti-terrorism laws Ireland has, in case we're not Charlie,

      "Links must also be fostered between “friendly Arab states”, who have condemned “forthrightly acts of terror” that were seen in France and Belgium in recent weeks.' said Flanagan, who is astonishingly not the corner drunk but is minister of Foreign Affairs,

      Charlie, Charlie, will you never learn all Arabs are hostile, they are not your friends, do you have Alan Shatters mobile? ( I dont know what it is I am into question marks, sorry, I think it was Roha's ( Rolf Harris?) comma crack, it shook me up.

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    • "the No. 26", you are in more trouble than you realize,

      "The letter yud is the first letter of God’s essential Name Havayah (whose full value equals 26)"

      Go round the corner and get the 68.

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    • “Palikari” (how I dislike your moniker!)" why are you an opponent of Greek independence from Turkey?

      or sturdy young men : παλληκάρι

  • Jewish groups that blindly support Israel make US and European Jews potential victims of violence -- Avnery
    • "If you were to ask the average Arab to define Wahabism"

      ya walad, not that I would wish to appear to be out Arabing anyone, not being an Arab is my alibi, but lets remember that wahabism didnt become an issue until that follower of Abdel Halim Hafez, Al-Uthaymeen and the Kharijites electrified during that abortive concert in Riyadh, here is Wahabism unplugged Ya Msafir Wahdak, ever get that feeling, i have never met an Arab who didnt know about this.

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    • couldnt agree any more Walid, i was making a point unrelated to the truth or otherwise of the linked articles, you are of course quite correct in all particulars, i am not in anyway endorsing the out put of as-Sharq et al, sure its propaganda, its in the "media" so what else would it be?

    • "But to explain away muslim anti-Semitism by Israel and/or Algeria is to ignore the genocidal(yes, that’s the word) incitement against Jews which is more often than not the norm in the Arab world."

      what is it with you guys larry d on another thread said Palestinians (Arabs in his parlance) shouldnt serve in the IDF, as Arabs are the enemy, SLA? who had fare less reason to fight for Israel than putative citizens. Your dishonest statement above speaks for itself, however the "More often than not the norm" prevarication shows you that know you are talking out of your arse,

      What precisely is it that Uri didnt explain "away", I get tired of hearing that euphemistic construction "American Exceptionalism" it means American superiority, " since you were unimpressed by Uri how would you explain

      "the genocidal(yes, that’s the word) incitement against Jews which is more often than not the norm in the Arab world."

      You really should, it might be cathartic.

      here's some incitement and it is genocidal:

      "Opinion: How did we end up cheering for Israel?

      Many have welcomed with cheers the sudden Israeli strike on Sunday that killed six Hezbollah members and a general in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps who, for some reason, were secretly present in Syria’s Quneitra region.

      The cheering for this act on social networking platforms is an expression of anger and indignation, and we’ve even sensed these feelings expressed by sympathizers with Islamist groups.

      This represents a huge change of feelings about Hezbollah, due to its heinous actions in targeting its rivals in Lebanon and its involvement in the killing of thousands in Syria. Many of those who have shifted from admiring Hezbollah to hating the group did so in less than a decade.

      These people used to support Hezbollah in Lebanon in the past and they used to adopt the Shi’ite group’s political and military agenda. Anger began to surface when Hezbollah’s militias occupied west Beirut during the events of May 7, 2008, three years after the party’s involvement in the assassination of Sunni leader Rafik Hariri."

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      and MEM

      Egyptian media praises the Israeli aggression on Gaza

      "Many readers and viewers of the Egyptian media seem perplexed by its coverage of the Israeli aggression on Gaza Strip especially as it praises its aerial raids against innocent civilians and describe it as a "war on terrorism".

      The strangest incident occurred when Israel's Channel Two praised an Egyptian TV host who called on the Egyptian Army to explicitly help the Israeli army to eliminate Hamas for supporting ousted President Mohamed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

      The host and her channel's position reflect the incitement campaign waged by the major Egyptian newspapers and TV channels against Hamas, calling it an "internal occupier, not less dangerous than a foreign occupier".

      A group of Egyptian journalists and writers gloated over targeting Hamas and condemned its reaction to the Israeli aggression by firing missiles at Israeli cities, claiming it was "an attempt to embarrass Egypt and President Abdel Fatah Al-Sisi".

      CBC TV station described the Israeli targets in Gaza as terrorist targets.

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  • How two Palestinian Americans plan to PIVOT the world
    • dont start on the quatrains they are infinite

      A true Lover doesn't follow any one religion,
      be sure of that.
      Since in the religion of Love,
      there is no irreverence or faith.
      When in Love,
      body, mind, heart and soul don't even exist.
      Become this,

      I am so drunk
      I have lost the way in
      and the way out.
      I have lost the earth, the moon, and the sky.
      Don't put another cup of wine in my hand,
      pour it in my mouth,
      for I have lost the way to my mouth.
      fall in Love,
      and you will not be separated again.

  • Hate in the aftermath of Chapel Hill
    • The Takbir is "Allahu Akbar min kulli shay'in."

      What is Takbeer?
      September 12, 2008
      tags: Allahu Akbar, dhikr, Greatest, takbeer
      by Amatullah


      To continue our meanings of the dhikr posts, we’ll analyze Takbeer which means to say: Allahu Akbar.

      Allah ta’ala says in Suratul Israa ayah 111:

      وَكَبِّرْهُ تَكْبِيرًا

      “and glorify Him with a great glorification”.

      Both of these words in the ayah are from kaaf-ba-ra (ك-ب-ر) or kabar, which means to be great. كَبِّرْهُ Kabirhu means: Make Him great, declare His Greatness, Exalt Him, Magnify Him. How? تَكْبِيرًا ,takbeera, by saying Allahu Akbar. This is the highest and best way to Exalt Allah.

      Furthermore, there is a deeper meaning to “Allahu Akbar”. It’s not just Allahu Akbar, it is : Allahu akbaru min kulli shay’in, Allah is greater than everything. When we say Allahu Akbar, we are implying this whole phrase although “min kulli shay’in”, “than everything” is omitted from the sentence.

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  • One-state 'fantasy is very dangerous' because it cannot tell us what the military looks like -- Manekin
    • Surely its "g-ddamn"

    • as civility casts her ethereal spell,

      "You can’t build a state that depends for its basic stability on eternally peaceful relations with its neighbors, especially if we’re talking about this country and these neighbors."

      cats out of the bag then

      "this country"

      "and these neighbours" why Larry, what are you implying?

      "and I don’t blame them in the slightest, and it’s wrong to expect them to or, God forbid, to draft them into an army to fight alongside Jews against Arabs."

      yes no blame and no equality either, its a trade off.

      (Has anybody asked Israeli Arabs if they’re in favor of such a deal? I asked Azmi Bishara once, his answer: No comment.") what does no comment mean?

      " to fight alongside Jews against Arabs." have you seen American Sniper?

    • So now the immutable ethics of ethnicity dictate there must be a Jewish state in the Levant, because Palestinians will not fight Arabs, what else would a Jewish, itself half or more Arab, state do but fight Arabs for ethnic reasons.

      That Arab will never fight Arab is the lesson of history only confirmed by the present this establishes the need for a Jewish state to fight Arabs?

      there is no place for sectarian states of any kind in the Middle East, the Arabs will eventually defeat all of them, possibly, is there something else we could do with Arabs, other than murder, suppress and rob them? or does ethnicity impose serve impediments to obeying the law, or seeking the consent of your victims for your nefarious ethnic activities. I come from a tribe (of Arabs) but we are not as tribal as you seem to be, we find tribalism limiting and distasteful, perhaps we shouldn't, you would probably know, better than us how we should feel, however we still feel the way we do irrespective, can we have guns now?

      In a Jewish state at peace with its neighbors who is going to protect Jews from each other, ethnicity, religion, Zionism, a forest of nobel laureates, the enlightement? the Arabs are your only hope.

  • Wide array of groups congratulate UC Santa Cruz for hosting Angela Davis on 'Ferguson to Palestine'
    • incidentally one of the signatory organizations Anakbyan, i think it was the successor to the resoundingly named Kabataang Makabayan, a revolutionary youth movement of the Philippines, has covered an item you might find interesting in light of the letter above.

      Professor Angela Davis looks well, she seems timeless.

      "US used Filipinos as cannon fodder; Aquino a puppet — Anakbayan
      On February 16, 2015

      The United States (US) should be held accountable for the bloody Mamasapano offensive. It has now been revealed that they sacrificed the lives of Filipinos in the altar of their “war on terror.” More than 70 Filipinos, 44 SAF, 18 Moro fighters and at least 7 civilians died in an operation funded, masterminded and directed by the US and implemented no less than President Aquino.

      This reveals Aquino as an obedient US puppet and a traitor. The US instructed the president to direct a secret mission, keep the mission secret from other government agencies and pursue the mission at all costs, even at the cost of the lives of civilians, Moro fighters and its own police force. Aquino zealously implemented the US orders and used the SAF as cannon-fodder for the operation.

      This likewise reveals the extent of US intervention in the country. The US has been known to launch secret “anti-terror” assassinations and abductions, violating national sovereignty and laws around the globe. In 2012, the US already bombed civilian communities in Sulu in the quest to get Marwan. They have been operating in a secret headquarters in Zamboanga and have implemented several Oplans in the country with the complicity of the president and the local police force.

      The US officials involved in the bloody offensive should be held accountable. Reports that FBI director James Comey was directly involved in hatching the plan, while Gen. Joseph Votel of the US Special Operations Command took part in its execution should be looked into. They and other US officials in the country should be called to investigations and should be held liable for the incident.

      These revelations bolster the call to end US-PH military agreements and exercises. The Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement and the Visiting Forces Agreement should be junked and all US military operations in PH should be ended immediately.

      We are calling on youth groups nationwide and all patriotic Filipinos to rise in protest and fight for justice, national sovereignty and genuine change. Let us go to EDSA on February 25 and hold a nationwide walk-out protest on February 27. — Anakbayan

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  • 'American Sniper' is an antiwar movie
    • what is the purpose of portraying Arab women and children as active, savage or otherwise, combatants. Its not a war movie, these are not wars but colonial police actions, what army was Kyle fighting?

      This is not the WW2 movie where through redemptive violence our hero becomes a man, evil is defeated, order reestablished and bitches demurely compliant, this is imperial conflict, where our tortured hero confronts horror an endless boiling mass of primitive hostility, there is no redemption, only betrayal by the authorities and the great moral burden our white man carries, disillusion and self destruction, everything is defiled, especially our intimate world, it is a way of culturally processing the inevitable moral injury resulting from being a bunch of murdering thieving moralists and barbaric civilizors, it seems to have purchase oddly, I've seen the trailer that is sufficient, it could only appeal to histrionic self pitying fascists.

      Days of Glory (Indigenes) (2006) is much better, but its French not Hollywood shit.

  • Lubya in the pines -- a visit to an ethnically-cleansed Palestinian village
    • your piece reminded me of Arar ( mustafa wahbi at-tull) and al-badawi al-mulaththam et al,

      and this little classic by betty singe anderson, Nationalist Voices in Jordan: The Street and the State, its an interesting record, full of detail, little bit on Arar and Abdullah

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  • The left needs to stop hounding Elizabeth Warren on Palestine, says Warren supporter
  • Netanyahu's disaster: speech cost 'omnipotent' lobby a veto proof majority for Iran sanctions
    • " In the US, the democrats are the SOCIALISTS."

      How can you tell?

      and as to ladies and lakes I think it could be this.

  • Let's honor Kayla Mueller-- and other women leaders during the war on terror
    • and one savage that Chris Kyle left alive

      Rashad Zaydan

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      and interviewed a year or two ago,

      "When American soldiers blast open the door and inspect your home, the children become so frightened. When that is repeated time and time again, the children become traumatized.

      You cannot take your child to a garden or a park, because it is not secure. There are as many dangers as there are bullets in Baghdad. So you keep your children indoors. But when they are kept inside all day and night, without even electricity to watch TV or play video games, you find that they become agitated and act out against each other.

      No day comes or passes without hearing an explosion or gunfire, and helicopters are always overhead. We are afraid to take our kids to school because even schools have been bombed. When we do allow our children to go to school, we worry about them, and the children themselves are constantly afraid.

      In addition to their fears, Iraqi youth are also battling hopelessness. They are under a lot of stress. Many children and young people have lost their homes, their families, and the people they love. They have begun to carry weapons, fighting in one way or another. I fear for the youth of my country, and I don’t want them to continue in this direction. I want them to receive an education so that they can rebuild Iraq and create a more prosperous future.

      There are many things that can be said about our children, but the most important thing we must do is start to increase trust. We have to work together to find a way to stop the violence in Iraq. Right now most of the money being spent is for military operations. But if the U.S. continues these military operations, there will be more and more orphans and our problems will keep escalating. At least one fourth of the money should be spent for women and children."

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  • Israel: Schabas resignation cannot ‘whitewash’ bias in UN war crimes inquiry
    • This argument reminds me of the late Ygael Gluckstein, later well known as Tony Cliff founder member of the SWP in the UK, born in Palestine in 1917 or so, his views may well have changed however you can read some his 30's etc stuff here, these articles were much lauded by the SWP as the final word on Palestine, I disagreed and we fell out over it, the old effendi gambit, i resisted the urge to lecture and denounce the "left". Gluckstein usually links the "feudal" Arabs to the British, i find his approach unconvincing, but he was there and his articles are sometimes rich in detail. He was very effective in the UK and the SWP owed a good deal of its early success to his leadership, he was much loved and respected in the UK for his local activism, since his death the SWP has fallen on hardtimes and is going the way of the ridiculous WRP, not to mention the absurd AWL. This "class based" analysis was a popular line during the civilizing mission.

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  • Druze IDF soldier attacked by Israeli Jews for speaking Arabic
    • anyone who has known Israeli's is surely familiar with the odd Israeli observation "But the Druze are not Arabs", perhaps not Muslims is fulfilling the same function as to revering Muhammad, well the Druze will revere whomsoever they feel appropriate, they are very enthusiastic about the Quran, and Muhammad, your average Druze is Jahilli, its an illuminati faith, they are far to polite to trouble others with the content of their religion. As to being Muslims, despite its recent popularity takfir is not encouraged in Islam, so they are whatever they say they are, Muslims? sure why not? if I can be one so can anyone.

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  • Israel gets trashed at the 92d Street Y
    • Mahmoud Darwish: I am from there (From Arabic)
      This poem ends by making innovative use of the technical linguistic terminology of the Arab grammarian tradition. It annoys me that the existing translations into English underplay or ignore this coolness. (says the translator)

      I Am From There
      By Mahmoud Darwish
      Translated by A.Z. Foreman
      Click here to hear me read the poem in Arabic

      I am from there and I have memories. Like any other
      Man I was born. I have a mother,
      A house with several windows, friends and brothers.
      I have a prison cell's cold window, a wave
      Snatched by seagulls, my own view, an extra blade
      Of grass, a moon at word's end, a life-supply
      Of birds, and an olive tree that cannot die.
      I walked and crossed the land before the crossing
      Of swords made a banquet-table of a body.

      I come from there, and I return the sky
      To its mother when it cries for her, and cry
      For a cloud on its return
      To recognize me. I have learned
      All words befitting of blood's court to break
      The rule; I have learned all the words to take
      The lexicon apart for one noun's sake,
      The compound I must make:

      The Original:

      انا من هناك

    • "We need Shmuel to make sense of this"

      Can't Mooser make nonsense out of it? as to Shmuel indeed, imagine sorting this miasma out

      Darwish reads "I am from there'

    • "Wow"

      well you recall the Normalization which we all crave, in R it can happen, but and here is the synergy, wow is a bad anti-normal letter as in below , also beginning with wow is pretty unacceptable, especially in proximity to a faa, baa or kaf, its the barrier to the normal, its the elisions or something, it also involves stemming words which sounds exciting.

      "Text Normalization and Arabic in R

      Working with right-to-left languages like Arabic in R can be a bit of a headache, especially when mixed with left-to-right languages (like English). Since my research involves a great deal of text analysis of Arabic news articles, I find myself with a lot of headaches. Most text analysis methods require some kind of normalization before diving into the actual analyses. Normalization includes things like removing punctuation, converting words to lowercase, stripping numbers out, and so on. This is essential for any kind of frequency-based analysis so that words such as don’t, Don’t, and dont are not considered unique words. After all, when dealing with human-generated text, typos and differences in presentation are bound to occur. Often times, normalizing also includes stemming words so that words such as think, thinking, and thinks are all stemmed to “think” as they all represent (basically) the same concept.

      In English, this is fairly easy and pre-packaged in many of natural language processing software packages (including the tm package for R). However, the state of Arabic natural language processing is not nearly as advanced as its English counterpart and, further, is much less accessible to the lay practitioner. This is almost certainly because of three factors: 1) the dominance of English in general, 2) the over-representation of English speakers in the software development and natural language processing fields, and 3) these procedures are not as cut and dry as in other languages, especially with respect to stemming. Some examples of problems that normalizing Arabic text produces are the eliding of waw with a distinct word or leading a word with faa, baa, or kaf, or some combination of the two. It’s difficult to just remove leading waws, as there are words that begin with waw that would become garbled. Thus, it’s only safe to remove waws that precede articles (to be conservative)."

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  • Phila Inquirer publishes a lie: 'Anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are one and the same'
    • I didnt realize Gil had died Jon, he was a great writer and scholar whose works i have always enjoyed, may he rest in peace indeed, he will be sadly missed in this quarter.

    • "The Muslims wiped out most of the Jews" eh?

      Moshe Gil would like to see you after class, page 50, I recommend reading it all or at least all of the free read available as i say page 50 is interesting also 62, who was it in that commentary to psalm 30 who called Umar a lover of Israel or some such Salmon ibni Yeruhim , i had to check, " By the mercy of the God of Israel the kingdom of Ishmael was victorious and Israel was permitted to come and live (in Jerusalem)" i am a poor scholar cant remember anything. page 69 may worry some, apparently. anyway enjoy Gil's history of "Palestine 634-1099"

      Gil is Israeli and unlikely to be an Arab one, so you can trust him, not hardly leftist either, by my reckoning.

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  • 'The New York Times' throws another sop to lovers of Israel
    • the Guardian has Ephraim Mirvis of the Holocaust Education Trust, which is also hosting exhibits of photographs of "Assad's" child victims, recounting the lessons that we all should have learned from that atrocity: his 7th and then final paragraphs are the meat.

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  • When discussing Islam, which Islam and whose rationality? 
    • one of the striking features of these discussions is the unalloyed ignorance on display to anyone familiar with Islamic Studies, even as they exist in the west not only by the fact that people happily opining on 'what it says in the Quran or hadith' have not studied the views of Islamic scholars at all, i link to volumes 1 and 2 of Ayoubs "the Quran and its Interpreters", you can read some for free, should you wish to, he includes Qutb as a commentator which is odd but he makes a sound argument as to why he has chosen to do so. along with of course Tabari, Ibni Arabi, Qummi, Kathir and others and as such its a tolerably varied dip into the sources of Islamic barbarism, enjoy if you dare. I think these two volumes only cover the first 3 Sura's, I have not read them but am a little familiar with some of this stuff from other sources, and Mahmoud Ayoub is I think a South Lebanese shi'a scholar, he did or does quite a bit Chrsitian Muslim interfaith stuff, he is quite eminent in the US, earning a PhD from Harvard, trust him he's a doctor you never know you may find a little, less than arduous, study productive.

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  • Jim Crow's polite sons
    • "just go over to any of the threads concerning Ferguson."

      much as I would like to I don't think they let just anybody in.

      I like that, to some, its the Arabs who are unworthy, not having the excuse of poverty and oppression that so avails Black American people to explain their incarceration rate etc, Frances astonishing levels of Harki incarceration are an indictment of Harki's rather than the socialist system in France that has defeated poverty and social exclusion, or its the Black Americans who are unworthy living as they do within the confines of the shining city on the hill and not under an onerous and unjust occupation, its a shame Darfur is not in Palestine, it so neatly averted the dangers of Black on Arab solidarity at the start of the 2003 Iraq invasion, perhaps we could get the Misrata brigade to police Ferguson and Boko Haram to occupy the West Bank. Whatever did happened to Darfur, it all work out ok, like Southern Sudan? Like Libya? Like waterless Detroit? Like anywhere else the empire sticks its vile member?

  • Letter from a Texas Maximum Security Prison: A personal reflection on Martin Luther King Day
    • hi Annie,

      its all in the details, like the Megrahi conviction, once you examine the case and the associated judicial misbehavior etc, rather like the Stammheim RAF trial, the lawless arrogance of the powers is all to clearly apparent, in the cases of the Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4 their innocence was immediately obvious to most, it took years to set right, innocent men and women died in prison, the state eventually has to abandon its fit-ups and lies, but things move very slowly, and the unravelling of the Birm and Guildford cases was precipitated by ten IRA prisoners starving themselves to death compelling the UK state to demilitarize the conflict and seek terms with the "Catholic" community, its a long road, you have to maintain your resolve over vast stretches of time, people like the Author above are dazzling sources of inspiration.

    • Francis Fitzgibbons of the LRB reviews the HLF case

      Low-Hanging Fruit
      Francis FitzGibbon on the show trial of the Holy Land Foundation

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    • yes i guess so unless i dont understand "killing with near absolute mutiny" i dont get that.

      Not to say that the concept of near absolute mutiny is not deeply appealing to the likes of me, i'd be more mutinous if i knew how.

      anyway all the very best of wishes to all of those bearing the burden of savage American injustice, you are not alone, may its bloody well-spring run dry soon.

    • penultimate para line 2 mutiny=impunity, damn predictive text.

      Our Prophet (pbuh) said: "Verily, if Allah loves a people, He makes them go through trials. Whoever is satisfied, for him is contentment, and whoever is angry upon him is wrath." [Tirmidhi]

      And the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said to 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas (radiyallahu 'anhu): "..Be mindful of Allah, you will find Him before you. Get to know Allah in prosperity and He will know you in adversity... And know that victory comes with patience, relief with affliction, and ease with hardship." [Tirmidhi]

      you will be vindicated.


  • Living in Israel isn't the solution to antisemitism
    • "it’s actually only since WW2 that Europe has really opened itself to the rest of the world"

      thats not really true, and "Europe" often had little say in the matter, you never hear Genes complaining "You never take me anywhere" :

      "he told the Edinburgh international book festival, despite a long-held belief that its ethnic make-up was largely Scots, Celtic, Viking and Irish, Scotland was in fact "one of the most diverse nations on earth".

      "The explanation is simple. We are a people on the edge of beyond; on the end of a massive continent. Peoples were migrating northwest; and they couldn't get any further. We have collected them."

      He and his colleagues have found West African, Arabian, south-east Asian and Siberian ancestry in Scotland. "The West African ancestry mostly originates in the 18th century,".....

      "One per cent of all Scottish men, said Moffat, have Berber ancestry – why, he says, remains a mystery, though he believes that the penetration of people from the medieval caliphate of Cordoba "must have been immensely important".

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  • 80+ Cartoonists And Comics Workers Tell Comics Industry: 'No Business As Usual With Israel'
    • and the American model

    • and whats weird is that Israel is receiving very positive coverage in As-Sharq Al-Awsat and other Arab media, they recently had an article discussing Arab support for the Zionists, as-Sharq that is, get some one to check the Arab social media sites, some blood thirsty buggers are ecstatic about the latest Syrian strike, politicide hardly captures the intensity of the malaise haunting the Arab world, fear so intense and pervasive its akin to madness sublimated as hatred of Iran and Hizbullah I guess, its weird, mainly the young who have come of age under the neo-liberal yoke, such are the times, the Saudi's are extraordinary in their malevolent cynicism.

      that is why the Rojava revolution must at all costs be defeated, its bucking Washington's regional norm

      " a model which for the sake of this system is now preoccupied with combating the greatest savagery in the world today. And the peoples who believe in this [model] are now fighting together on the same front. Armenians, Assyrians, Arabs, Turks and many other peoples have declared their desire to live freely under this model and have become the drivers of this revolution."

      the translator struggles but still worth a look

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  • It's not the cartoons-- a contrarian perspective from a Muslim cartoonist
    • "Abu Bakr announced the death of Mohamed" which was a rebuke to the second caliph Umar, who refused to accept the news, Abu Bakr was Aisha's father, the range of ages given for her by various sources at the time of her marriage goes from 6-14 yrs, by people who thought this unexceptional, and there is an extensive personal record of her relationship with Muhammad, which anyone can read, even in English, once they have overcome their righteous indignation etc, while its provenance can be questioned its content may surprise the uninitiated.

      the prohibition on pictures of the Prophets didn't become established till after 1500ce, the Shia have never really followed this line, they love pictures of Ali, looking like a brunette Fabio, mostly the Prophet was, after 1500, shown as a man with a handkerchief for a face, but still there are loads of representations of him with a human face, Muslims have a habit of extending Quranic injunctions, despite the specific Quranic warning them not to do so, at least some of the Hanbali's drink beer, as an expression of their fastidious literal reading of things, and keeping in mind that Malik's Muwatta exists now in no less than 30 versions, the most widely accepted version was produced by an Iberian Berber who had no curiosity whatsoever about Elephants at least that's what he told Malik, who was duly impressed.

      once it was well established that the mat'n or content of a Hadith or tradition of the Prophet could not be a reason for its rejection many wags had a field day constructing insulting and satirical ahadith of Muhammad all duly recorded and discussed within the literature, some times with appreciation for the ribaldry and jokes, sometimes not.

  • Caroline Glick says there were no Palestinian refugees
    • "debakr goes on to claim He did not specify Zionists since he was speaking in Arabic.

      .............whatever that means."

      He was speaking Islamic, Annie, you know what that means....i laughed so much i hurt my belly... i dont know why but i giggle like a school girl, he did not "specify", like he did not ensure she came first, I always specify, like a real man, and you can get two of me for less than the price of one. less than nothing

  • Liberal Zionists seek to strip Naftali Bennett of freedom to travel in hope of saving two-state solution
    • "Annie rocks" I know I have a little crush myself, and thats not the Laphroiag talking, just yet, will log back in after the looming Cork city session concludes sometime tonight, drinking with Boiys is a solemn social obligation, thus relying on ibni Hanbal I will undertake my duties, no wine or even whine though, we all know thats Haram hanging with the old IRA, God bless them and the water charge here has everyone radicalized, and one does what one can to encourage it. Enda Kenny came here and couldnt leave his limo.

      anyone remember Abdullah's death threat to Khadaffi and that Arab-Arab thing, not unlike that Black on Black stuff we all take comfort in, damn it is the Laphroiag..

  • We're all anti-American now
    • "I know that the imbalance is structural: bright young men are deprived of equal opportunity"

      fuck me Phil we all have an equal opportunity to sell out, bless you, what happened to Jewish smarter than others? respect man its a brutal white supremacist world out there, none of us come out this alive, look at Annie a paragon, we love and respect you man, your efforts are exemplary, you are like, almost our equal, innit.

  • 'Racist, fascist bullshit'-- Marcel Ophuls exposes Islamophobia in Israel
    • yeah its the wonder of 'Europe" and all the joy it brings us.

    • heretic!

      conversion to Islam is simple but we are fucked, perhaps super fucked, if that is possible, have you seen the Last Samurai, your wife wont let you join us, no one exceeds Muslim in the self destruction stakes.

  • Palestinian minister dies after Israeli army assault during olive tree planting ceremony in West Bank village
    • which was a response to the murder of Abu Ali Mustapha, as if you didn't know. Ze'evi was an enthusiastic supporter of assassination, what are you complaining about.

      "Mustafa was killed by two rockets fired from two Israeli Apache helicopters through his two office windows, as he sat at his desk in his office in Ramallah, in a targeted killing on 27 August 2001.[2][3][4] Over 50,000 mourners attended his funeral. He was married with three daughters and two sons. The PFLP subsequently renamed their armed wing in the Occupied Palestinian Territories the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades. He was succeeded as Secretary General by Ahmad Saadat.

      Israeli tourist minister Rehavam Ze'evi was allegedly assassinated by the PFLP in revenge for his killing. Ze'evi was a strong supporter of Israel carrying out targeted killing of Palestinian militants."

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  • Promoting regime change in Iraq paved the way to regime change at the New Republic
    • truth is there is no one like Angela Davis, if not the whole of the wing she sure is the leading edge, moralism and apologetics have crippled the leftist discourse that is allowed in to the press, neo-liberal ideas have infected everything, after all fundamentalisms are all about not reading or contemplating and stamping on indeterminacy till it turns in to fascism.

      somewhere in the great Dharmakaya one hopes that foucault, zitta acosta and abou ala al marri and combining in the swirling hulm into a radical godzilla, looks like this is what we have now

    • well as you will see once you research it, its causing a bit of stir, there were some tweets i think between Ahmed and Freedland, The Guardian may seem to an American reader to be superior to some American organs but it performs the same function as the mainstream media your side of the pond, blunting opposition to whatever the policies of the day are, however like the New Statesman of old it always patronized a few really radical writers, I am not following this stuff any more, but there is some disgust with their conduct in this matter, only time servers are welcome in the halls of the press nowadays.

      I worked for the BBC World Service for years and when BBC Radio 4 told to me go to hell, only allowing me to do prayer for the day I was told by my producer at the WS "Dont worry dear boy they are very ideological at R4" truth is they are pretty ideological everywhere, i even wrote for the Financial Times but the WS and Radio2 liked my crazy ghetto boy drug and crime saga's, a little local colour always sells. That you have heard of Nafeez Mosadegh Ahmed is a testament to your alertness, he linked protective edge to energy issues, which is apparently to some people going too far.

    • "Another good piece on the New Republic’s racism is by Max Fisher at Vox. He worked at the place and is now embarrassed that he didn’t speak out, even as the magazine was insulting black people left and right"

      what counts as left in America is a mystery to me and many others in the socialist nightmare of the EU but the Nafeez Ahmed scandal at the Guardian is interesting he wrote an article about Gaza, J Freedland is implicated, Ahmed blogs at "The Cutting Edge"

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  • Saban confronts Bennett: 'Are you willing to cut commercial ties with Europe?'
    • you might enjoy this fractured free read of Goddards "History of Christian-Muslim Relations"

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    • in football the penalty kick is an Irish invention, well the Milford, county Donegal, goal keepers invention at a time when enthusiastic tackling could lead to death or serious maiming, shoot outs are one thing, i prefer sudden death aka golden goal from open play. its good manners to source ones claims, with credible wiki type sources being the dog bollocks, init.

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  • Mamdani's 'holistic' challenge: Anti-Zionists must persuade Jews they can only be safe by dismantling the Jewish state
    • i mean, 'oppositional identities' is a classic, i tremble before their power, has there ever been such an utter d**k head as TBK, no, i assert, there has not, if you are in any way perplexed. i may have drunk too much, but "antithesis", big words small 'ideas', what a "pr**k".

    • "I don’t think it was pointed out by Phil or in the comments that Mr. Mamdani is from the Ugandan Indian community and with out a doubt this informs his understanding of when and how immigrants become natives and his interest (which I share) in interrogating the very notion of Native." Yes everyone sucks, especially Mamdani and Gandhi

      "his understanding of when and how immigrants become natives....(which i share)"

      Have you read Define and Rule, or you just guessing, to assert that it has anything whatsoever to do with "how immigrants" ie colonizers, a very special category of "immigrant" become "native" shows your utter illiteracy forgive my not getting into this farago let us consult a review by someone who has read Mamdani and judge for yourselves link below.

      "Gandhi include some less than what is taken as Gandhi-like comments about the position of Indians versus black South Africans with the impression that his gripe was being included among them rather than among the English with whom he was educated" Only some one who has never read Gandhi could possibly imagine any of that crap, but yes Gandhi is unlike "Gandhi" anyway please read link and demonstrate where any thing is about "immigrants", not colonizers of course, becoming "natives" your whole post is a non-sequitur, do you know who the late Yusuf Bala Usman was? was he Fulani or Hausa, his seminal work if memory serves was "The Misrepresentation of Nigeria" for f*ks sake man, i suppose its an advance on Jews are a natural part of the middle east but shit you are an idiot if you think no one reading here is familiar with this debate. so over to Chloe Ahmann, you have to admit pretty damn good for a girl.. i will leave others to judge.. but to put it simply no one is a "native"..of course Mooser sees through you, you are transparent....

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  • 14 Palestinians injured by Israeli army fire in Ramallah clashes
    • Who did find the dead sea scrolls?

      "As the story goes, a shepherd of the Ta'amireh tribe left his flock of sheep and goats to search for a stray. Amid the crumbling limestone cliffs that line the northwestern rim of the Dead Sea, around the site of Qumran, he found a cave in the crevice of a steep rocky hillside. Intrigued, he cast a stone into the dark interior, only to be startled by the sound of breaking pots. This sound echoed around the world. For he had stumbled on the greatest find of the century, the Dead Sea Scrolls. ‏Upon entering the cave, the young Bedouin found a mysterious Bedouin goatherds Jum'a and Muhammed ed-DibBedouin goatherds Jum'a and Muhammed ed-Dib (left to right) claimed to have discovered the first Dead Sea Scrolls
      John C. Trever JarsSome of the scrolls may have been hidden in jars like these, which were found in the excavations of the caves and the site of Qumran
      Mariana Salzberger Khalil Eskander Shahin (Kando), Bethlehem antiquities dealerKhalil Eskander Shahin (Kando), Bethlehem antiquities dealer
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      Alexander Schick collection of large clay jars. The majority were empty and upon examining the remaining few, he found that the jars were intact, with lids still in place. However, a closer look revealed nothing but old scrolls, some wrapped in linen and blackened with age.

      ‏He and several companions brought the scrolls to Kando, a Bethlehem antiquities dealer, for appraisal. Intrigued by the findings, Kando sent the Bedouin back to the caves in search of more treasures. To his delight, they returned with a total of seven scrolls. ‏Blind to their real value, the Bedouin sold four of the seven scrolls to Kando and three to a second antiquities dealer named Salahi. Kando then resold the four scrolls to Archbishop Samuel, head of the Syrian Orthodox Monastery of St. Mark in Jerusalem."

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  • Israel has no answer to BDS, Barghouti tells packed hall at Columbia
    • replying to a snippet of Annie's reply to some Zionist dude in the thread above,

      "a speech by an iman" yes the Imam Amir Abdel Malik Ali nee Derek Gilliam, former NOI black nationalist, he is a very angry man, but i guess more a product of America than anything else and apparently acting within US law, as he is still a free man, Imam does mean Alim and even Alim is little guarantee of religious literacy, I was an Imam once and I know bugger all, but do not subscribe to weird American style racial and religious theories, a Sunni Imam merely needs to know the difference between bowing down and bending over, a Shia "Imam" is the elect of God, ulul-Azm and all that.

    • "if it were my decision I would have Israel found a colony somewhere in South America or Africa and people it with its excess population" and why not Europe? dont you think founding colonies, fun as it sounds is the problem, you want yet another "colony", and who is to say who is excess, are you an excess citizen, and do you have a spare room or two where you are?

  • It's always been a holy war
    • "to those who were unjustly expelled from their homes only because they said, "God is our Lord." Had it not been for God's repelling some people through the might of others, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which God is very often worshipped would have been utterly destroyed. God shall certainly help those who help Him. He is All-powerful and Majestic."

      well thats 22.40 what abrogates that or is itself an abrogation? M'hem, has no idea what naskh is, it is of course disputed, there are various kinds all relating to fiqh, or the study of proofs, forensic proofs, but nowhere does any one except the ignorant or stupid or malicious claim that spiritual or moral or exhorting statements like those quoted by jd can be abrogated, there are voluminous books written on the subject, all very tedious for those not that way inclined like Kitab al kharaj and of course Usul al Jassas, Abu Bakr al Jassas encyclopedic rendering of his teachers, a Hanafi jurist who came after the eponymous Shafi'i, al Kharki's lectures, so the nasikh w'al mansukh is a legal matter, as to disproving the Quran, do you think history is over and that having a state is peculiar favour bestowed by God, states are rather mundane nasty little things we have many for all the good it does us, and as to God being angry with Jews, have you read your own book? God must love Christians and their many storied states, you sound insane and deeply deluded sadly you are not alone.

  • #JusticeForMikeBrown: NFL star Reggie Bush connects Ferguson to Palestine
    • Simple brief informative piece By Anthony DiMaggio

      "The central problem is that, if professors and teachers are not promoting critical thought, how will these students understand the broader political, economic, and social contexts underlying events like the Ferguson protests? The simple answer is that they won’t. In our national media environment, journalists and pundits shamelessly stereotype African Americans and Hispanic males as violent criminal thugs by portraying them as perpetrators of violent crime at far greater rates than actually occur in reality. Without the knowledge and information to challenge these stereotypes, citizens can’t recognize the broader inequality and injustices that exist in metropolitan regions and across the country.'

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    • sorry but there seem to be few reply buttons so Sean baby, I have scanned your reply and since you are both ignorant and selling uncritical acceptance of the pablum being offered by the police as critical thought i am generously suggesting that you buy and read the text linked below a significant preview can be sampled at link.

      Max Blumenthal has an interview here where he is apparently introducing several people to modern anti-racist discourse, for the last 20 years Black activists have been arguing that anti-racism as a paradigm needs to be abandoned as it all too easily locates the problem within Blackness, the problem as it is now conceived is white privilege, the problem is whiteness as conceived within a system of privilege, not the much pathologised black community, if you want to see thuggishness in action go see Marco Williams "Banished" or read about it.

      Check out Bassem Masri a Palestinian from Ferguson instead of channeling O'Reilly and berating the "progressives" or Palestinians, you do not wonder how this narrative about an unarmed young man has been constructed, critical thinking my scarred arse. You assume that the self serving version presented by the perpetrator is true? why, a 12 year old thug was shot twice in the center of his body mass from 10ft by a police officer, I await the justification with interest. There will no trial of Wilson, you dont find that odd, due process? and yet you have convicted Brown on the basis of a campaign of innuendo and you state he was Thug, so his execution with 6 bullets is justified and needs no examination, its ridiculous.

      in 1997 in my manor the Police killed Marlon Downes, Jamaican, after the inquest ruled an open verdict because his death by suicide, as the police claimed was literally impossible, look into it, what history doesnt record is that exemplary beatings administered to local police by myself and others forced them to close those vile dungeons within days of Marlons death, we broke into Harrow police station and kicked the living shit out of the CID officers we believed to have been responsible, and thus justice was served to the best of our limited abilities, there were no arrests we got away scot free and we all felt vindicated, it led to a strong communal resistance to police abuse and increased local solidarity, it aint pretty but for some people its all we have, I was a professional journalist and educator, i maintained cordial relations with the royal household where i reviewed the speeches of Charles where they dealt with Islam and vetted Muslims he wished to interact with, i have always been a polymath, thugs you know can have intellectual lives and professional careers, they learned their lesson and for several years the black people of those North London boroughs noticed a reduced level of police violence, nothing lasts but we got some respite, you need to look deeper in to things

      Michael the "thug" Brown has no serious juvenile convictions, he graduated high school and was due to go to college, the video that so impressed you seems to me to amount to very little, exactly the same shit was said of Steven Lawrence, murdered by young white working class racists not 2 miles from where i worked for 30 years, it turned out he was a model student waiting to start an Architecture degree, had he been a thug he would not have died he was in fact rather naive.

      But the one thing that convinced me to dismiss your idiocy was your revolting insolence in suggesting that Palestinians from Bi'lin are "milking" anything, listen shit head they are expressing solidarity with another despised and much abused people, not selling soap to indolent racists like you, what was Mandela selling when he expressed solidarity with Palestine or Tutu, a mercenary creep such as yourself can not understand principle, there is no bottom line. They are doing what is right.

      A local black business owner in Ferguson remarked that while he hoped his businesses were not looted with out this burning and looting no one would be paying any attention, "Y'all wouldnt be here" he said motioning to the media "it would be swept under the rug"

      Brown was 18 years of age for fuck sake, that his death doesn't move you to question the authorities is nauseating and the anti-thesis of critical thinking, there are quite a few articles around explaining the context of his communities rage, on Dissident Voice and Informed Comment, neither of which i particularly like however in this instance they are doing creditable work, that you impress yourself and other clowns with your semi-sensate ramblings is pitiful. you do not deserve any serious engagement the estimable Annie is quite right, punk.

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    • As to the he was no angel meme Tim Wise puts himself on the line

      That’s the refrain, repeated for over two months on social media by defenders of Officer Darren Wilson, convinced that Michael Brown was little more than a violent and dangerous thug, worthy of death that August day in Ferguson.

      From the beginning, Brown’s strong-arm theft of cigars from a local market was used by Wilson’s supporters as justification for whatever happened to him. “Thieves deserve their fate,” came the refrain from many a (mostly white) Facebook feed—this, from persons who have never openly advocated death for, say, Wall Street bankers who stole a lot more than Swisher Sweets. Nor have they likely ever contemplated what such a maxim might suggest about the merited destinies of their own white ancestors, for whom theft of land and the labor of others was central to the development of the very country those same commentators now call home.

      “He had weed in his system,” cried others, suggesting that marijuana use either justifies being shot by a cop, or at the very least might explain his “aggressive behavior” towards Officer Wilson—the kind of thing that could only be said by someone who had never smoked much weed. Attacking police officers is, as a general rule, the last thing on your mind when you’re high.

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    • A message from the beloved leader

      "Some progressives have rallied behind Michael Brown without doing much critical thinking"

      When "progressives" engage in critical thought they come up with a concatenation of right wing talking points?

      " Serious Palestinian Activists" is comedy gold, unlike the weekenders pictured above I suppose?

      "Not smart from the point of view of practical politics" stop man you are a tragedy, while we may well be playing checkers it seems you are struggling with tic tac toe.

  • Israeli occupation stoking 'holy war' in Jerusalem
    • heres the link again, forgot first time, and i would guess the simple answer is no

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    • Dear Annie if you have a little time Ghada Hashem Talhami has written a nice if long piece on
      fadhail al quds (w' al sham) etc, i excerpt below, you may enjoy

      " Muslims proceeded to build shrines to various religions, not only to Islam, as soon as they entrenched themselves around Jerusalem's sacred-rock area. By the ninth century CE, the Haram al-Sharif, where the Dome of the Rock and the Aqsa Mosque stood, was also dedicated to non-Islamic religions. Shrines were built to honor David, Solomon and Jesus. In addition, since Jews did not regard the Western Wall of the Temple with veneration until the sixteenth century, the Wall was dedicated as a Muslim shrine commemorating the area where Muhammad tethered his winged horse, al-Buraq, on the night of his celestial journey. Historians assume that a small Jewish synagogue probably stood near the wall during the Umayyad and Abbasid periods, but until the beginning of the Ottoman period, Jews worshiped mainly at the Mount of Olives."

  • The occupied territories are 7000 miles from New Mexico but I felt like I never left home
    • and Bassem Masri " We gonna do what we feel"

    • A Lesson in Resistance from our Native American Brothers

      March 2, 2013. Wounded Knee. For those who’ve spent the last few decades fighting for freedom, liberty and civil rights, the centuries-old struggle for self-determination by American Indians has been one pillar of the current struggle. But the growing numbers of outraged Americans suddenly fighting back seem unaware that an entire segment of America has been fighting the same battle, successfully. It’s time to learn some lessons on organized resistance.

      Annie Mae Aquash (1945 - 1975)

      Protest, Resistance, and Dissent in Native Americans

      In 2007, a college student produced a four-minute video for his anthropology class. The movie-short is basically no more than a Power Point presentation to the sounds of modern Native American punk music. But the video hems together an armed struggle by an entire race of people against the United States federal government that has spanned 300 years. But it’s the past 30 years that the video concentrates on. And for those angry Americans who want to protest their government, they could take a lesson from those who’ve spent the last 40 years traveling that same road.

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  • Wall around Bethlehem is Christmas billboard in Atlanta
    • "Aren’t we the ones who say that Biblical claims have nothing to do with the rights of people 2000 years later and then we..."

      what do you mean "we"... white man?

  • 'Palestine is an anxiety' for Americans-- Salaita in New York
    • "Anxiety" I understood Salaita's remark to be about the fact that it is traditional in the USA to assume that the colonization of the Native Americans is something relegated to history, past, regrettable no doubt, but past, rather than on-going and that its all settled done and dusted irrevocable and addressed as best as it can be. He brings up the Black Hills and the many treaties which still have legal force, being agreements between sovereign entities, I am not in a position to judge but recall the 1941 appeal by Canadian First nation to the UN and Winston Churchill, who replied graciously to the Iroquois, but privately warned the Canadian Government to reject any revisiting of their demands , there are are there not Native American activists who wish to revisit the issues? In my experience people laugh at the notion that the issue of native Americans is a live issue, is that not an indication of anxiety, a refusal to see these as real, current and on-going, I am not in position to judge but recall the Pelletiers and their statements, I had a friend who once met Dennis Banks and was both surprised and impressed by how live he and his folk considered the situation.

      for instance the stuff linked below, which will not allow me to cut and paste a preview

      below that is a Julie Pelletier piece., on "third space of sovereignty", here now not lost in history, isnt that the "anxiety"

      "The author reveals the "colonial ambivalence" of the United States as a settler-state, an ambivalence that can trap Indians in a paradox. For example, Bruyneel describes how Indian tribes are imagined and described before the recent gaming economic success of some tribes. They were "out of time"—situated in a mythical past, inexorably damaged by colonization and their own savagery—and therefore they were too weak to govern themselves and so they must be governed by the settler-state for their own good. More recently, successful gaming tribes are also seen as "out of time"—they have stepped too far from their Noble Savage essence—and therefore they are too strong and must be governed and controlled for their own good."

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  • South African activists reflect on parallels between life under apartheid and Israel/Palestine today
    • "SA and Palestine are vastly different. The original inhabitants of SA are not the Bantu tribes who rule the country now, but the Khoisan bushmen. They got displaced and genocided by both the Boers and the Bantu tribes when they migrated into the area today known as SA in the past"

      your are peddling worn out colonial propaganda

      The Myth of the Empty Land
      Shula Marks

      "Who would have guessed from this that when visitors to South Africa at the beginning of the twentieth century wrote and spoke of racial conflict they were referring to the differences between English and Afrikaans-speaking South Africans, and that the differences between them is still as great as between any two of the so-called 'Black Nations'?...........Over the past ten or fifteen years, scholars in these disciplines, together with the historians, have begun to assemble a picture of South Africa's past which is dramatically at variance with the official version. Although there are still innumerable uncertainties and blurred edges, the evidence, especially from archaeology, has nonetheless transformed our understanding of the peopling of southern Africa and of the countless adaptations made by the earlier inhabitants of the sub-continent to master their environment. Most revolutionary has been the development of the radio-carbon dating techniques which have enabled us radically to reinterpret the past 2,000 years of its history.

      In the 1920s and 1930s South Africa led the way in research on early man and the Stone Age, but it has only been relatively recently, and in part in response to developments north of the Limpopo, that South African archaeologists have begun to investigate sites dated to the last couple of thousand years. These cover the final stages of the Late Stone Age and the advent of what is termed the Iron Age, a dramatically new departure which saw the introduction of agriculture, settled villages, iron-using and pottery and which seems also to be associated with the arrival in the sub-continent of a new people of negroid physical character. As more and more carbon dates have been processed from the Early Iron Age sites which stretch in a thin scatter over southern, central and eastern Africa, so it has become apparent that the first Iron Age farmers south of the Limpopo River as to the north of it, arrived there early in the first millennium AD, and not, as had been previously assumed, relatively late in the second . The earliest dates we have for the Iron Age in South Africa go back some 1,200 years before the Portuguese first rounded the southern tip of the continent in search of the kingdom of Prester John and the fabled riches of the East in 1488. Excavations at Silverleaves and Eiland in the northeastern Transvaal, and Enkwazini near St. Lucia Bay on the Zululand coast have given dates for Iron Age settlements as early as the third to fourth centuries AD. These dates are remarkably close to the first Iron Age dates north of the Limpopo in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia, as well as for Zambia and Malawi."

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  • Revisiting 'Graveyard of Numbers': Israel refuses to return remains of Palestinian militants as a punitive measure
    • Walid from point 2 nashk (abrogation), is a far from universally accepted process, the whole idea betokens the bad faith of good many scholars, he is of course correct to mention it in that many scholars engaged in this weird activity and in the frankly hilarious discussions of the mushaf and the ''Quran " and the famous "missing" word or verse debacles, its a favorite of anti-Muslim ideologues and i suppose rightly so, but has always been attacked in toto by many scholars, for the very good reason that it makes no sense what so ever, the whole area is replete with clearly forged hadith, of which of course there are very many, and invented but textually abrogated verse's whose rulings are nonetheless still in force, the whole area is a cause of embarrassment and tool for the promotion of humility for Muslims, for instance in the case of stoning for adultery which is with out basis in the Quran, some cunning blokes invented their own "Quran". I was always taught that hadith cannot be used to interpret the Quran, paradoxically only the Quran can be used to interpret the Quran, thats a pretty standard Azharite position. It always makes me think of that Bill Hicks joke about Southern fundamentalists opining "I think what God meant to say....".

      I am listening to an extended BBC farago about the perils of home grown terrorism, we can all kiss some cherished rights good bye, surveillance must be total.

      Louay Fatoohi writes

      I also study the main relevant ḥadīths and show that they lack credibility. We will see, for instance, that most of these alleged verses are non-legalistic, yet all modes of abrogation imply that they deal with verses that introduce legal rulings. Using legal-textual abrogation to explain the absence of the alleged verses from the muṣḥaf is not only doomed to fail, but is also self-contradictory as abrogation, by definition, cannot be applied to those missing passages.

      The abrogation of the wording but not the ruling of a Qur’anic verse is the subject of Chapters 11 and 12. There are two passages that are not found in the muṣḥaf and a missing word from a verse in the muṣḥaf that are claimed to represent “textual abrogation,” as I call this mode of abrogation. I examine the so-called “stoning verse” separately in Chapter 11, because of the length of this discussion, and I deal with the other two cases in Chapter 12.

      Again, Ḥadīth narratives are used to support these claims. Yet my examination of these ḥadīths will show that they cannot be linked to the Prophet. As is the case with the instances of legal-textual abrogation, the alleged passages are not historical, i.e. they were never part of the Qur’an. Their absence from the muṣḥaf is not due to abrogation, another mechanism, deliberate manipulation, or accident. It is simply a reflection of the fact that none of them is a Qur’anic verse.

      Having reviewed the three modes of abrogation, my conclusion is that abrogation is a phenomenon that lacks any support from the Qur’an. The three modes were developed to address three different concerns. Legal abrogation, which was probably the first mode of abrogation to appear, was the result of perceived contradictions between certain Qur’anic verses. These misinterpretations were at times chosen by exegetes to explain the prevalence of certain practices that contradicted Qur’anic rulings.

      Legal-textual abrogation was needed to rationalize the belief driven by certain narratives that the muṣḥaf did not contain all verses of the Qur’an. In the case of textual abrogation, which is the last mode of abrogation to be proposed, the alleged two passages and one missing word from the muṣḥaf were invented to give Qur’anic support to widely accepted legal rulings. In the case of stoning, this ruling was in conflict with verses in the muṣḥaf.

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    • Daniel McGowan writes "Some of Us Still Remember" about the site of Har Nof, the disclaimer after the article is also interesting

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  • One week in Jerusalem and -- it's not complicated
    • an aside: while in the hills of St Bess, a young man Pempe fucked a cow which died 48 hours later, now as a cow is a huge investment for a poor Jamaican farmer and as no one locally would touch it, it was packed off to a processor in Black River. I cant say if it was Halal or not but on the grounds of "you eat it if you want" we all resolved to avoid beef patties till we were confident it has passed down the line. As the creature died we were all a little afraid of Pempe, when he was accused of also fucking the goats up at Daley and sacked from shepherding them, he appeared by the cross roads with a tethered goat and exclaimed that "Me na need fuck your goats, me have me own", riposte escaped us as I say we were all afraid of him and his death dealing member.

      While it is true that Christian culture has little understanding of religious law as practiced by Muslims and Jews, the reason they find this funny is because it is. I recall having a little spat, my behavior is often crude and unpleasant, with Walid, who is always exemplary, about a dar-ul uloom Sheikh who opined that a woman who breast fed a male co-worker 5 times would not be required to cover her hair in his presence, in Egypt we laughed and derided him, so the reason that people find this funny is because it is, its not a new holocaust, it evinces no prejudice what so ever, the fact that you invoke Dave Duke and the blood soaked ignorance of Maher et all betokens your disgusting habit of lying in wait so you can play the victim, dont Jews have laws about that, we do.

      Really as to eating cattle fucked by men as I say to quote the Aboriginal dream time scripture, you eat if you want too, who cares whether its Halal, leaving aside the interesting legal niceties. Its funny what of it.

    • Dear John might I recommend if you haven't already seen it Razaks " Dark Threats and White Knights" its background stuff, a good deal can be read for free at link, judge for yourself if its the kind of thing that may interest you:

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  • Muslims' beliefs are 'untrue' and 'ridiculous,' 'Salon' author says, offering support for Maher's intolerance
    • " I genuinely believe what I say about Islam and other religions."

      but on the basis of what knowledge? and her book is no "apologia", virulent ignorance is a poor basis for "belief", however "genuine".

    • Rayyan, you are the well known reviewer and writer I guess, if so I enjoyed your review of Massads "Desiring Arabs" and would recomend your oevre to all, so not to demur from the points you raise, but have you seen Waltons piece linked below, as to the Da'ish sure but the political realities from which it is emerging are determinative, perhaps Jebreal would have been better to say poorly attested, but people do have the right to interpret as they see fit.

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    • and of course no Islamic polity was ever ruled exclusively by Sharia, I think Seafoid once mentioned Kanun (from Canon Law) which under the provisions of "Urf" etc was usually a component of the legal structure where Chritstinity had once been practised and though Hinduism is an anachronism both the Indic religions and specifically Budhhism were recognized and accepted as "Divine" religions, in the case of Buddhism Gautama was their Prophet and Abhidharma was their Book. Abdallah Ansari of Herat drew heavily from Buddhism in the writing of the "Hundred Grounds". I will have to check with the Caliph, if he is still with us. I always liked Kishks summation of modern Islamic scholarship "They have read three pages of Ibni Taymiyyah and pose as defenders of the faith, its a farce"

    • oh and just an irrelevant point those not familiar with Vajrayana Buddhist esoteric philosophy might not get the links with Qunawi's commetary and the five Buddha families etc, I would contend that "A Treasure Trove of Scriptural Transmission" the commentary by Lonchenpa (Longchen Rabjam) on his "Basic Space of Phenomena" and its epitomes of the various classes of Tantra in particular, "The Dynamic Energy of the Lion", "The all Creating Monarch" and "The Reverberation of Sound" and many others are indispensable to the understanding of all religion including Islam, but they are very difficult and require determined application.

      well pip pip and on to the next Abrahamic catastrophe.

    • sorry to interject chet this is the nearest reply button, to MRW, bintbiba and just, it was entirely MRW's post, and you are all too gracious i am very moved, it reminded me of the great Yitzhack Yehuda "Ignacs" Goldziher and a western scholarship of Islam that was erudite profound and free of the claustrophobic idiocy that passes for such today, though his reach was limited and inspired many reactions from Muslim scholars, with scholars such as him dialogue is fruitful he has no peer today. I could not recommend his work highly enough, I met people who had studied under him, MRW's generous link brought it all back, I can not recommend him highly enough, I think one Azami (?) wrote an interesting defense of the Ulema view of these same topics, the recently deceased Nehemia Levtzion was another great Jewish and Israeli scholar, we will not see their like again. Walahi barakficum.

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    • "but it seems that Quranic idea of “Holy War” was borrowed from Torah,"

      the Quranic idea of holy war? no such idea exists either in the Quran or Islamic literature generally, Jihad does not mean war, holy or otherwise. The phrase Holy war ( al-harb al-muqadassah) is unknown in Arabic. Muslim rulers got up to all sorts, as did their hired hand scholars, Islam being essentially discursive is full of myriad disputes, the expansionist rulers and their lackeys made no utterances that were not derided by other scholars, who represents Islam? not a single one of them on any side of any argument, not very satisfactory perhaps but there we are, it is what it is. I suspect Muslim rulers got the idea of aggressive war the same place everyone else does, Muslims i suspect are much less interested in Islam than are some non-Muslims. Calling something a Jihad solved many legal problems they would have faced in compelling folk to provide troops, booty is at all times, even our own, a great motivator.

    • why 188, i would guess the casual reader would be better starting from the beginning of chapter of 5 and though there is much to dispute with Briffault about, it is interesting and he has read some stuff, he is a relief from the utter inanity of discussions of Islam current in western media and popular discourse. He is particularly remembered by some for his "Decline and fall of the British Empire", naughty, naughty boy, he died mid last century, and was not a social anthropologist by training, a medical man if memory serves.

      As we are getting all Islamic studies might I offer two brief pieces one some poems by a well known Cadi ( Sharia Judge) and scholar
      and a little hadith scholarship by his best known pupil, enjoy.

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  • Israeli government plans 185 miles of new Jewish settler roads in the West Bank
    • what you doing 6.30pm today?

      [Dublin] Evening meeting with Ilan Pappe & Yaser Alashqar: The role of academics in the struggle for justice in Palestine (AFP & UCD ISOC)
      Thu, 13 November 2014, 18:30 Red Room, New Student Centre, UCD Belfield.


      The role of academics in the struggle for justice in Palestine

      Prof. Ilan Pappé (Israeli historian)

      Dr. Yaser Alashqar (Palestinian academic)

      6.30pm THURSDAY 13 NOVEMBER

      Red Room, New Student Centre, UCD Belfield.

      Organised by Academics for Palestine and UCD Islamic Society.

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  • Video: Routine exchange on a bus reveals racism embedded within Jewish Israeli society
    • "And if I’m not mistaken, the actions by the “soldier” in the video are not part of Israel’s already oppressive “security” arrangements, the soldier took it on himself to hassle that woman."

      yeah and made me think of

      Sexual Violence, Womens Bodies and Israeli Settler colonialism

      They not only invaded our home, took over our space, and evicted us—they even arrested me and took me to the Maskubya—the police station. I was put in room number four, alone, for a long time. Then, a big and tall man, a police officer, entered the interrogation room. I was alone, and started shivering from fear as he closed the door, started moving things around in the room....

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  • In travesty of justice, Rasmea Odeh found guilty despite history of Israeli torture
    • Rasmea is not alone

      " Although Benton Harbor is ostensibly out from under emergency management, the city is subjected to the more powerful and predominantly white St. Joseph, where the county court system is based. The fact that an all-white jury was impaneled in such a racially sensitive case in an area with deep historical tensions, speaks volumes in regard to the lack of sensitivity existing among the county authorities and the corporate interests."

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  • The hidden documents that reveal the true borders of Israel and Palestine (Updated)
    • link to british military history used above.

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    • In respect to the naqab/negev, might i make some observations. Currently the Israeli government is ethnically cleansing Israeli citizens, who serve in the IDF, from it. The Negev is not a terra nullis it belongs to the bedu, Palestinian citizens of Israel. there also moshavim etc, which have already dispossed them cruelly.

      So having come to the conclusion that addressing the core issues would infringe on the rights of Israeli civilians, largely Jewish, you suggest, that land that belongs to Palestinian Israelis be given to forcibly denationalized displaced Palestinians? are you sure that Palestinians and the people of the region as a whole are interested in solutions which do not address the core issues of justice, legality and human rights, which are not the preserve of Israeli Jews alone. Palestinian rights can not be made to disappear via borders Mahmud Darwish wrote elegant poems on that theme.

      Re the Arab battle plans 1947-49, firstly Arabs will justly treat the suggestion that the "five armies" had co-ordinated plans, or plans at all, with humour and derision, but just think, what was the middle east environment like just post ww2, take a British military source for 1947:

      "After the Great War, the United Kingdom maintained strategic interests in the Mediterranean and Middle East. The main reason for this was to provide a safe sea and air route between the U.K. and India, but control of oil supplies and national interests were also factors in this policy.

      Gibraltar is a British possession in the Western Mediterranean. It had a Governor-General, army garrison and Royal Navy dockyard. Malta was a British colony in the central Mediterranean with a Governor-General, army garrison and significant Royal Navy presence.

      Egypt was an interesting situation in that the United Kingdom maintained a significant measure of control of what was in theory an independent country. Indeed, Egypt housed the largest British Army presence outside of the United Kingdom and India. The main reason for this was the presence of the Suez Canal, the key artery that facilitated maritime access between the U.K., India and the Far East.

      Another country in which the U.K. faced policing a troubled state was in Palestine"

      makes you think? could i suggest some broadening of your research parameters, if you want to talk to Arabs about our recent history, some of which we recall more or less clearly.

    • a link to a Palestine Israel Journal article by Abu Sitta, you may find interesting

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    • During your research have you come across the name Salman Abu Sitta?

    • " but tailored for a Palestinian audience." how did you do that?

  • 'We are in a violent fight with extreme Islam' -- Feiglin leads rightists to pray at al-Aqsa Mosque
  • Ritualized Solidarity
    • "“Let us in the know speak for you! We will speak truth to power!”

      ok without engaging with the rest of this lachrymose shit, self pity posing as magnanimity, might i suggest the always interesting Mosche Gil, and fuck the temple mount, we, we have history, also in furthering interesting discussion, good if some one knew some shit. Sorry link looks appalling its is to Gils "A History of Palestine: 643-1099" on google books, its only "facts", you can analyze, you can read a big chunk from section 5 "Palestine FromThe Begging of Abbasid Rule to the Fatimids" and on, to facilitate entertaining discussion. Just for fun may i remind everyone that Al-Azhar, the pre-eminent Sunni institution was established by Shi'i, not obviously to romanticize any shit whatsoever.

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  • Bus ads hitting US aid for Israeli 'war crimes' roll in Portland (after ban in Seattle)
    • Smadar Lavie's new book : "Wapped in the Flag of Israel: Mizrahi Single Mothers and Bureaucratic Torture"

      "What is the relationship between social protest movements in the State of Israel, violence in Gaza, and the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran? Why did the mass social protests in the State of Israel of summer 2011 ultimately fail? Wrapped in the Flag of Israel discusses social protest movements from the 2003 Single Mothers’ March led by Mizrahi Vicky Knafo, to the “Tahrir is Here” Israeli mass protests of summer 2011. Equating bureaucratic entanglements with pain—what, arguably, can be seen as torture, Smadar Lavie explores the conundrum of loving and staying loyal to a state that repeatedly inflicts pain on its non-European Jewish women citizens through its bureaucratic system. The book presents a model of bureaucracy as divine cosmology and posits that Israeli State bureaucracy is based on a theological essence that fuses the categories of religion, gender, and race into the foundation of citizenship."

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  • 'Settlement endorsement should be put on a par with racism, sexism, homophobia and anti-Semitism' --British pol
    • "The moral basis for Israel’s persecution of the Palestinian people"

      "I never knew what that was supposed to mean,"

      write to Jerry Slater he says he can explain, he hasn't deigned to, as yet, but he can, so he says. Of course if it is moral to establish a state for Jews in Palestine, without Palestinian consent, Palestinian self defense is immoral, even though self defense is also a universal moral right, utilizing the moral calculus is a complex process, not amenable to all, I have never been any good at it and thus must defer to elevated persons such as liberal Zionist moralists.

      there is a hierarchy, you know, its best to know your place so as not to over step the iron wall of moral dictate, after all is not the main purpose of morality to justify the unconscionable,

  • Obama says Muslims bear responsibility to counter radical Islam (so are Jews responsible for Israeli violence?)
    • "I’d have to be much more familiar with the societies than I am. But yes" - sometimes tears are the only answer, i weep for you Donald.

  • Yale Jewish center to hold 'intellectual' panel on storm over ousted priest's comments-- without inviting the priest
    • "Does “Semite” have any meaning at all" even though i couldnt agree more its hard to explain that one is anti-Semite, shit heads misconstrue.

      the origin of Semite was precisely to "racialize" religious difference, anyway Schlozer (?) was looking for the Japhetic language family, which proved harder to find, and anyway Judah Ibni Quraysh had already done the heavy lifting some centuries previously.

      I like "solipsistic vortex" from a comment above, think I might have a touch of that.

  • Photo-cartoon making Tutu into Hitler is published then taken down by South African Jewish paper
  • Israel surveils and blackmails gay Palestinians to make them informants
    • Pilger makes MW seem less cool than it could be, for years everyone has known.

      "The attack on Gaza was an attack on all of us. The siege of Gaza is a siege of all of us. The denial of justice to Palestinians is a symptom of much of humanity under siege and a warning that the threat of a new world war is growing by the day.

      When Nelson Mandela called the struggle of Palestine “the greatest moral issue of our time”, he spoke on behalf of true civilisation, not that which empires invent. In Latin America, the governments of Brazil, Chile, Venezuela, Bolivia, El Salvador, Peru and Ecuador have made their stand on Gaza. Each of these countries has known its own dark silence when immunity for mass murder was sponsored by the same godfather in Washington that answered the cries of children in Gaza with more ammunition to kill them."

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  • Israeli military demolishes West Bank dairy factory benefitting orphans despite court appeal
    • " "But this soil is mixed with our blood,” said Kamal"

      "All Israeli's are "religious" when it comes to the land" Haider Abdul Shafi, bloody soil is surely not Kosher.

      Israel is Lee J Cobb in 12 Angry Men, they will need help with their coat and compassion when they fuck off back where they came from.

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