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born part Arab part Scots/Irish, worked in training ulema for the european environment/ journalist broadcaster for many years working mainly for bbc. From a faction of euro-islam much favored by the establishment, writer etc nothing really of interest may as well move along.

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  • Support for Rep. Hank Johnson following mischaracterization of his remarks on settlements
    • now man be honest you got us all excited bring me the head of Jeffrey Goldberg,

      termite analogies, ok don't you guys have to pay the vig or something, so ok termite analogies buys you a week, and don't be selling any arachnid similes next week, we want Jeffrey and thats not metaphorical,

      i hope you don't plan to disappoint with any schutzhund nonsense, treat it like a game but still we have taken hold and we won't let go.

    • "let’s say we take his statements at face value"

      I have studied Guam, it appears to be a small diagram in two dimensions, its brown surrounded by blue,

      and therefore it is not possible for Guam to tip up no matter how many people you pile on one end as a), this is not an allowable motion in 2 dimensions and
      b) because it has no underside,

      you may rotate it , i thought perhaps expand it in skew directions, i gona line it up along the straight ones.

      the dangers of being one dimensional were fully explained by Mark Hughes, who was in a bright army, in that famous book which is ironically only available as a 3 dimensional object because its hard to turn the pages in one dimension.

  • Netanyahu accidentally calls Arabs 'goats' in video intended to promote 'equality and dignity for all'
  • In new book, Ilan Pappé says settler colonialism and apartheid best explain Israeli-Palestinian conflict
  • Fear and whiteness on the campaign trail
    • "sharquified"

      well word is in from sharkia, its a real place, capital Zagazig, epicentre An-Nakhas, in Sharkia we have no sects, though we do host Palestinian '48 unregistered refugees

      "You’re the whitest person I’ve ever seen.” well you do write very white, the Saddam stuff, and let me be clear among my Arab confederates you could not mention Hussein people would start frothing at the mouth, do you know why,

      because many Arabs trace the present neo-colonial torment of the Arab world to Hussein's war on Iran,

      but your stuff is very ill-judged if you think about it, any way you a clever guy so i am going to give you two things, we sharqiyans are noted for generosity and sectlessness,

      1st ed said

      "SR: You also talk about a photo-article in a fashion magazine, under the headline ‘Terrorist Couture’, which claims that the Palestinians are not really Palestinians because they have simply hijacked Arab dress and renamed it Palestinian.

      ES: We do it all the time!

      SR: The article also claims that this supposedly distinctive dress is not that of the people but of the upper middle class. Referring to the American author of the article, Sharon Churcher, you write: ‘In the larger scheme of things . . . she is somebody doing a hack job on a hack fashion magazine.’ And yet, you say you feel the need to go right back to the beginning, to explain the whole history of Palestine in order to unmake Sharon Churcher’s lie and show that this is in fact genuinely popular Palestinian dress. Doesn’t this need to go back again and again over the same story become tiring?

      ES: It does, but you do it anyway. It is like trying to find the magical moment when everything starts, as in Midnight’s Children. You know midnight, and so you go back. But it is very hard to do that because you have to work out everything and get past a lot of questions in the daily press about why Palestinians don’t just stay where they are and stop causing trouble. That immediately launches you into a tremendous harangue, as you explain to people: ‘My mother was born in Nazareth, my father was born in Jerusalem . . . ’ The interesting thing is that there seems to be nothing in the world which sustains the story: unless you go on telling it, it will just drop and disappear.

      SR: The need to be perpetually told.

      ES: Exactly. The other narratives have a kind of permanence or institutional existence and you just have to try to work away at them.

      SR: This is one of the things that you criticize from within Palestinianness: the lack of any serious effort to institutionalize the story, to give it an objective existence.

      ES: That’s right. It is interesting that right up to 1948, most of the writing by Palestinians expressed a fear that they were about to lose their country. Their descriptions of cities and other places in Palestine appeared as a kind of pleading before a tribunal. After the dispersion of the Palestinians, however, there was a curious period of silence until a new Palestinian literature began to develop in the fifties and, above all, the sixties. Given the size of this achievement, it is strange that no narrative of Palestinian history has ever been institutionalized in a definitive masterwork. There never seems to be enough time, and one always has the impression that one’s enemy—in this case the Israelis—are trying to take the archive away. The gravest image for me in 1982 was of the Israelis shipping out the archives of the Palestine Research Centre in Beirut to Tel Aviv."

      he's not sharqiyan and neither is this guy but check it out, could help with the whiteness, and this concludes the sharqian response. enjoy and Dizzy fight the white.

  • The sensitive Zionist -- a review of Natalie Portman's new film
    • "I doubt that the Dubliners are ever off topic, "

      a Dublin supremacist let me quote an actual Cork graffito

      " End Dublin Rule in Cork now"

    • "gamal,

      I love that song"

      oh back to the rictus grin then fair play to you, stick at it,

      i'd get those goosebumps looked in to you may have pre-trauma.

    • also you know we all follow the lunar calendar so watch out man for the rising of the moon, how do you sleep hope this helps..

      "And come tell me Sean O'Farrell, tell me why you hurry so
      Hush a bhuachaill, hush and listen and his cheeks were all aglow
      I bear orders from the captain, get you ready quick and soon
      For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon

      At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
      For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon
      And come tell me Sean O'Farrell, where the gathering is to be
      At the old spot by the river quite well known to you and me

      One more word for signal token, whistle out the marching tune
      With your pike upon your shoulder at the rising of the moon
      At the rising of the moon, at the rising of the moon
      With your pike upon your shoulder at the rising of the moon

      Out from many a mud walled cabin eyes were watching through the night
      Many a manly heart was beating for the blessed morning's light
      Murmurs ran along the valley to the banshee's lonely croon
      And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon

      By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
      And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon
      All along that singing river, that black mass of men was seen
      High above their shining weapons flew their own beloved green

      Death to every foe and traitor, whistle out the marching tune
      And hoorah me boys for freedom 'tis the rising of the moon
      'Tis the rising of the moon, 'tis the rising of the moon
      And hoorah me boys for freedom 'tis the rising of the moon"

    • "You are squatting on stolen land."

      well yes but this is all it takes to keep Jon ,man of the left, S, the refugee from Palookaville in place, the absurdity of its my homeland too, yes man you really fitting in round here.

      "According to the report, 37-year old Asi Kasim, who had been injured while in detention at Ofer detention centre, died at Ramallah hospital after being denied medical attention for 23 days. According to an eyewitness, Mr. Asim was subjected to degrading treatment while in custody: he was reportedly forced to strip and stay outside in the rain for several hours. Shari Al Kawasmi, a Palestinian detainee, reported that his 22-year old brother Hamid, who had recently undergone surgery before his arrest and detention in April 28th, 2002, has been severely beaten.

      According to the report, a Palestinian minor, Abdul Salam Abu al-Hajja, who was captured at the Jenin refugee camp, was subjected to sleep deprivation and long hours of interrogation at the al-Jalami detention centre, in Jerusalem. Several other detainees at al-Jalami prison have reportedly been subjected to torture. The report states that they were tied against chairs and exposed to cold air for several hours, during which time they fainted repeatedly. "

      i thought Mooser had already killed Jon S but he is undead?

    • yeah and you couldn't find this video so just posted the text, a real artist, no rockets though

  • 'Does he believe in a God'? -- DNC leaders wanted to undermine Sanders
    • "How on earth could I claim to “speak for the Palestinians”? I’m a Jew."

      really speak for us, no one hears us here, i mean it, Arabs love you man.

  • In yet another sign of fascism, Lieberman likens Mahmoud Darwish to . . . Hitler
    • "Darwish told Dalia Karpel in Haaretz in 2007: “I have no home. I have moved and changed homes so often that I have no home in the deep sense of the word. Home is where I sleep and read and write, and that can be anywhere. I have lived in more than 20 homes already, and I always left behind medicines and books and clothes. I flee."

      more to the point

      From “Dear Darwish,” Blaze VOX, 2014.

      Morani Kornberg-Weiss
      From the sequence "Nakba Museum"

      If we are given access beyond the walls
      have we entered a museum.
      If we live in settlements
      are we residing in a museum.
      If we live in refugee camps
      are we part of a museum.
      If we drive on those roads
      do we easily access a museum.
      If we cross checkpoints and barriers
      have we made our way to a museum.
      If we are granted permits
      can we enter a museum.
      If there are no curfews
can we leave a museum.
      If the Nakba is still in progress
      can we visit a museum.

  • My family's Nakba story
  • 'Power is what matters': Alt Right leader Richard Spencer explains his admiration for Trump and Israel
    • "one of the people lending intellectual legitimacy to the Donald Trump campaign"

      I believe the instruction is stick your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye, "intellectual legitimacy" in terms of which discipline?

  • Coexistence in the land of 'Hatikvah'
    • "Bunch of sects maniacs."

      no but i am serious Roha, i like sects as much as any one, but i am not always sectarian i also enjoy corruption and deduction, i never impute, unless i am invited.

      edit: sorry mod i really have drunk too much and frankly its only going to get worse

    • this has good intro brief concise history, as to origins there is some argument but sprengling? is the guy who pointed out that some of the most important dai's were from the Tamim, Quraish and Tay, thats ultra-Arab, historically the Druze have boasted of their pure Arab origins, not intermarrying like the general Arab, with Turks, Persians and such, but as Mooser teaches the present changes the past

      A History of the Druze.

    • as to Arab society, one of the ways that people fail to understand the history of the middle east is by failing to grasp that it was not trouble in Islam but was Arabs revolting against their Turkish overlords, they never stopped century after century.

      that Arab revolt often had very important Druze elements, prior to the British the Druze had been ruled by Turks not Arabs, it was the general Arab condition.

      they shouldn't be called Druze because they rejected Duruz and went with the other guy but kept Duruz's name,

      Ahmed Pasha was non-other than Claude-Alexandre Comte De Boneval, he taught Ottoman soldiers mathematics

      one of Palestine's most noted nationalist poets was a Druze, he didn't feel protected you remember he was tormented by bats.

      and of course a General Arab knows only two dimensions what spreads out is a battlefield and whatever rises is a fort.

      "general Arab" society? of course now all specific Arabs are the victims of the mythical general Arab, the Arabs have been a colonized subaltern and resistant people for the last 1000 years or so, and come in kaleidoscopic array of flavours, and we know that we do.

      like the Kurds now the {insert sect} Arabs are now eternal victims of the Arab because no one bothers to attend to even recent history, a bedouin ottoman Soldier recorded the depredations of the Kurds (they Turkic, used to be Turks thus from the ruling sector of general Arab society) during the Armenian genocide Rayyan linked to it here years ago,

      general Arab society is a fiction I have never encountered it, but its a useful ideological tool outside that i can't see its usefulness, even the Ur Arab is hyphenated, all Arabs are something else as well,

      leading Arab nationalists came from the Alawi, Druze, Christians etc

      the west is obsessed with Arab sects which they are also determined to know nothing whatsoever about,

      anyway i am just talking nonsense because i give up, the Druze ruled Beirut and Sidon didn't they quite recently they were famous for not paying their taxes one Turkish ruler of Egypt invaded the Shouf and ....made them pay their back taxes, they recovered soon enough, sure though he was no General Arab that bloody Turk was doing the same to us, and we aren't general Arabs either.

    • "From a historical standpoint, as minorities within the Arab community, the “favored other” status in Israel is still better than the minority status the Druze historically had in general Arab society. Indeed, Israel serves as a sense of security the Druze people never had before."


      Fakr al Din al Maani et al?

      "Despite the small size of their community, the Druze have figured prominently in Middle Eastern history. During the Crusades, Druze soldiers aided the Ayyūbid and later Mamlūk forces by resisting Crusader advances at the Lebanese coast. The Druze enjoyed considerable autonomy under the Ottoman Empire and often rebelled against it, protected from direct Ottoman control by the mountainous terrain of their homelands. From the 16th to the 19th century, a series of powerful feudal lords dominated Druze political life.

      One of the most famous of them was the 17th-century ruler Fakhr al-Dīn II of the house of Maʿn, who forged a coalition with the Maronite Christians of the Lebanon Mountains and challenged Ottoman authority by allying with Tuscany. In the 20th and 21st centuries the Druze in Lebanon have mostly been represented in national politics by two families, the Jumblatts and the Arslans."


      " in general Arab society." and what is that Davidson?

  • Why Trump's revolution succeeded, and Bernie's fizzled
    • "Murphy’s and Jameson’s certainly helps."

      Roha you getting a live feed I am drinking Murphy's and Jameson, just the ordinary I am a man of the people, as we speak, i can't help the commas but will refine myself with a white Bordeaux "les hauts de la gafeliere" when there's no more Jameson, we salute Australia the nation of criminals unable to avoid arrest.

      edit: i am so drunk i forgot i had already made a fool of myself and have done so again, Murphy's and Jameson, let us not concern ourselves with what i am smoking

    • "Murphy’s and Jameson’s certainly helps."

      god damn it Roha thats just spooky, i have consumed an immoderate quantity of Murphy's in the last few hours, its ok its made in Cork its not that perfidious London Porter Guinness, and the Jameson is flowing, its been backed up for 12 years,

      genuinely awed spot on, the Murphy's is particularly worrying, do you have a drone, no really i have a bottle in my hand right now you getting a live feed.

    • "Plus, well, genes and “your mother’s uterus”. That’s why things are the way they are, and will never change"

      recent research indicates that the whitest of white people do in fact have rhythm, i now accept i was wrong and have evolved, let it go

  • Israel’s opposition parties plan to filibuster bill to expel Hanin Zoabi
    • I was in a room in Cork City with Hanin Zoabi and 300 others. She was spell binding we all felt 10 feet tall by the time she finished speaking, an amazing woman I vote Zoabi and Mumia the dream ticket.

      She is adamantine like Palestine.

  • With no evidence except ethnicity, media declared Nice attack terrorism
    • Mooser some time ago al imran came up, and you know you a musician and i have been foolish enough to imply ... well god himself intoned Al Imran to us

      he just reads always that astonishing power and precision latent

      before you exterminates us remember it will have to be to the last one and enjoy the tune, the family of Amram as god reads it from his script.

  • How your contributions power Mondoweiss journalism
    • "I’m really disappointed at the lack of POC among your staff."

      I am dissappointed that you are only disappointed, actually i am dissappointed that i am only disappointed by your disappointment, I don't think either of us come out this very well...

  • Iran deal is still imperilled by deep state-- hardliners, Israel lobby, Hillary Clinton
    • "Treasury Office of Terrorism and Financial Sanctions"

      'The intense behind the scene arm twisting'

      doesn't it
      remind you of Alexandre de Marenche, BCCI and the Safari club, plus ca change

      "The CIA’s Drug-Running Terrorists and the “Arc of Crisis” "

      "n 1976, a coalition of intelligence agencies was formed, which was called the Safari Club. This marked the discreet and highly covert coordination among various intelligence agencies, which would last for decades. It formed at a time when the CIA was embroiled in domestic scrutiny over the Watergate scandal and a Congressional investigation into covert CIA activities, forcing the CIA to become more covert in its activities.

      In 2002, the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Turki bin Faisal gave a speech in which he stated that in response to the CIA’s need for more discretion, “a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran [under the Shah].

      ”[1] However, “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George H.W. Bush as the head of the CIA,” Saudi intelligence chief, Kamal Adham, “transformed a small Pakistani merchant bank, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a world-wide money-laundering machine, buying banks around the world to create the biggest clandestine money network in history.”[2]

      As CIA director, George H.W. Bush “cemented strong relations with the intelligence services of both Saudi Arabia and the shah of Iran. He worked closely with Kamal Adham, the head of Saudi intelligence, brother-in-law of King Faisal and an early BCCI insider.” Adham had previously acted as a “channel between [Henry] Kissinger and [Egyptian President] Anwar Sadat” in 1972. In 1976, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia formed the Safari Club “to conduct through their own intelligence agencies operations that were now difficult for the CIA,” which was largely organized by the head of French intelligence, Alexandre de Marenches.[3]

      The “Arc of Crisis” and the Iranian Revolution

      When Jimmy Carter became President in 1977, he appointed over two-dozen members of the Trilateral Commission to his administration, which was an international think tank formed by Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller in 1973. Brzezinski had invited Carter to join the Trilateral Commission, and when Carter became President, Brzezinski became National Security Adviser; Cyrus Vance, also a member of the Commission, became Secretary of State; and Samuel Huntington, another Commission member, became Coordinator of National Security and Deputy to Brzezinski. Author and researcher Peter Dale Scott deserves much credit for his comprehensive analysis of the events leading up to and during the Iranian Revolution in his book, “The Road to 9/11”,* which provides much of the information below."

  • Palestinian youth was shot 9 times 'accidentally,' Israeli army says
    • "the IDF cowards shot him 9 times."

      and then beat him till they broke his other leg and then lie...and then shrug

      "repeatedly assaulted him despite his wounds."

  • Powerful new game 'Liyla and The Shadows of War' dramatizes 2014 Israeli attack on Gaza
    • "You want the”Hamas policy statement? “OK, I assume your joking."

      no not at all do you not think such things exist, do you believe Hamas could follow an unstated informal policy, how, by osmosis? they are very open about strategy, i have a link but it will require reading its not video of vile Arabs whose turpitude is obvious to any but the irredeemably hateful,

      you need to start using that god given mind Jon, Hamas let us consider, the author is one Hroub, come on Jon don't discrimnate us man thats just ignorant. (i think in short hemingway bits of sentences strung together with comma's, i am the doyen of illiterates) enjoy

    • "And I’ll obey Annie and leave this thread."

      Annie a total Israeli withdrawal well done.

    • "BTW, he drops the Stuart Smalley act when he’s talking to “gamal”, doesn’t he? He don’t need no validation from him"

      you think he discriminated me?

    • so for you that establishes "its" what " it’s pretty much common knowledge by now" that " Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people.”

      and Jon your second clip has a Memri equivalent where that ladies words are translated for the audience here, you could at least have provided a transcript, in the Memri clip they don't say anything about hospitals or houses but claim Hamas is hiding behind her which makes them Nazi's Memri tells us,

      that is your 'evidence' which proves your absurd thesis, you can shoot a Palestinian girl on camera result nothing you can beat and curse a smashed Palestinian child on the road on camera, shoot an injured boy in the face on camera result nothing, but you think Palestinians sacrifice Palestinians to .....what is the strategy again Jon spell it out man.

      that is what you have? mtv generation indeed.

    • "I recall personally posting such evidence two years ago."

      of course you recall such, Jon why wouldn't you well today's another day Jon, I am sure Adam will fish them out of the archives for you, is he not flesh of your flesh, if he had a nucleus would he not divide it and give you half etc,

      you wrote

      "with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people."

      so and Arabic is fine do you have the Hamas policy statement indicating that this is their deliberate "strategy" (tactic would have been better) why do you insist on making a fool of yourself, extraordinary claims Jon require just a little evidence and your own self serving lying interpretations and 'memory' don't really cut it.

      do you remember the missiles being loaded on a red crescent ambulance (stretchers), Gaza in under a suffocating cloud of drones, do you not see that your claim can not be proven, because its ridiculous,

      i note you write of Palestinian civilians and "innocent Israeli civilians" you really are very poor at this.

    • "I fully identify with the Left."

      "or the Hamas strategy of using hospitals, mosques, schools and civilian residences as launching sites, arms depots , etc., with the deliberate intention of increasing civilian casualties among their own people."

      there seems to be no evidence to support either of these claims, did a nucleus tell you?

      If you are unable to see that in your second para you are repeating a self serving racist slur on a par with Golda's 'if they loved their children' crap and as free of evidence as same, Hamas don't use their extensive military bases to launch missions, the PAF is still on the ground because they don't exist, like the evidence to back either of your claims,

      do you ever stray over to Kates column as a leftist, if you want to play the humanizing game Joni first you must be human, you know demonstrably so, not a bloodless little genocidaire like you.

  • Your support today determines: How much truth?
    • "the large number of comments with misused commas."

      I conquered those comma's, fair and squire, and can do what I like with them, ask a Rabbi.

  • The iron law of institutions versus Bernie Sanders
  • Israeli army blows up three Palestinian wells in occupied Hebron
  • 'Palestinians ought to be free' -- Cornel West's historic moment
    • " In my judgment "

      yes thats why Jesus said "Judge not"

      "steeper hill"? we going Down Hill fool steep is good.

      "hotheads", thugs, terrorists, hostiles, ....? i know what you mean.

    • "from England" nor is it from Ireland,

      yes I am not really into voting the good vote, all of these people are criminals look at Blair, its unbelievable an ex prime minister is slinking around the back alleys selling his pablum ( have you seen what the vile Eman al Badawy and others write at his "centre on religion and geopolitics")

      while the world speculates whether or not he should be tried for war crimes, 20 years ago that would have been a scandal now ah what we drone half of Asia as we yearn for yet another new beginning to sort out the catastrophe of the last one

      really Corbyn? Sanders? here we have sinn fein but none of these crews have any ideas the system is finished its war now at home abroad everywhere, even here in Ireland there is an astonishing epidemic of suicide, alcoholism and all this drenched in a mindless Americanized commercial culture of utter vapid idiocy.

      the option i am voting for isn't on the ballot so i can't lose, the benefits of 200 hundreds years of bloody struggle have evaporated right before Westerners eyes as they were posting pictures of their breakfast to facebook,

      the system is not benign has never been democratic all the people i respect politically are either dead or incarcerated or lying low.

      I vote Mumia, which box do i tick

    • "but Cornel West endorsements are kinda funny"

      Massa we sick?

  • 'To defend western freedom,' U.S. must preserve Egyptian tyranny
    • "Israel is certainly not the only reason the U.S. continues to help the Egyptian dictatorship; Washington is also surely motivated by the (misguided) belief that el-Sisi stands for stability in a volatile region."

      "stability" ? really that is what the US is seeking in obliterating Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Syria, come on, its only volatile because you are burning it to the ground.

      Sissi is supported in fact hired to destroy the Egyptians and Egypt politically, economically, religiously and socially,

      America is following a genocidal policy not seeking stability however misconceived

      anyway that's what we all think, as Shadia says "we are the reason you don't dare blink"

      with English and English subs Egypts revolutionary anthem, which couldn't have been created without Black folks, we are indebted to them for this

      "my tongue has no art" naughty boy to quote that here

  • BDS victory in Mennonite Church Canada
    • "200 million Jew ......people read this garbage and lies like this and believe it."

      In Cork alone there are 45 million Jews, they drink Murphy's and are too fluthered to colonize.

      Shaun as Yeats lamented when Swifts modest proposal was read in a Dublin theater and people left in disgust "you have disgraced yourself yet again", the 12 billion Irish Shaun (Sean) denounce you.

  • Israeli rabbi who advocated rape of 'comely gentile women' during war becomes chief army rabbi
    • " my 72nd birthday."

      happy birhtday Daddy Hughes, i am not even 60, forgive my insolence, you have to Jesus commands it, I am an Arab we are the people of vendetta, of feud, we are hoping Jesus will understand, no doubt you will put in a good word so,

      happy birthday, sir.

    • "the Muslims are identified" ? what even Muslims from Malaya and Nigeria?

      "Ishmael dwelt in the wilderness, apparently, of Beer-sheba, where he became a skilful archer; later he settled in the wilderness of Paran, where his mother took him a wife from Egypt (Gen. xxi. 8-21)"

    • "today is my 27th Anniversary! "


    • "Sorry, “gamal” none for me."

      you would have got away with that but then

      "but with the strength of Porsche 930 CV joints"

      you a bad bad man

    • "rabbis like Qarim lapse into dishonest apologetics once they realize something they’ve said didn’t have the desired effect on an unfamiliar group of readers."

      thing is I have some experience here when i lived in Jamaica, I sold some Johnson American Bulldogs we had bred (and trained but no card games only chess) to Lady Saw, long story cutting to the chase

      when she released her single "Let Me Love With My Heels On" in America we were disappointed by her mealy mouthed acquiescence to "norms" because that's not how she put it to us, in patois she said well see below and bulldogs, especially pits, are pretty like butterflies.

      this is really for Mooser but he's a married man it may be Halakically unwise to follow the link do so if you think your libido is big enough. ( yes i have been drunk since i caught the number 68 bus on 67th street)

    • after reading Jon and other magisterial Zionist historians sometimes you need to read a real historian a real scholar for nutrition so,

      Ann Goldberg wrote

      Sex, Religion, and the Making of Modern Madness: The Eberbach Asylum and German Society 1815-1849.

      what is it with this ludicrous archaism in Islam and Judaism, i am really dumbfounded, laziness everyone wants to go back to the source they are too illiterate to understand and avoid the vast and complex commentaries, could there be anything worse than a lazy scholar, fuck them.

      hop "super-jerk" hmi's getting girls with sovereignty did my head in and Jon's Ashkenazi nuclei was the last straw. this a bloody good fascinating book she is a fine scholar, its why history is taught to produce Ann Goldbergs and weed out the lacking hard evidence Jonni tale spinners.

      i searched first to get page 170 read Abraham's story, the sensitive reader will note how our culture has a disturbing continuity just an updated rationale 177 "Jews and the criminalization of madness" is searing

      and just the book

    • wo! Mooser!! thanks for that

      what is it,

      look at the people,

      is there more? what you say we give the xtians a pass what would the Rev' Cheeks do, no really that is ...thank you, that is my favorite thing i didnt know existed, its only tuesday and Shmuel made me get drunk and now this, and people don't like Jews! but my Pranja is big now trust me the Rev Cheeks can evangalize me any way he wants.

    • dear dear why does the Rabbi labour in ignorance when there a wealth of ahadith covering the matter, and even a little ijitihad, so let us mire ourselves in the scholastic swamp that is the ahadith, here getting iji

      "In our view the man who rapes a woman, regardless of whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a "dowry" like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. (Imam Malik, Al-Muwatta', Volume 2, page 734)"


      ""If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse." (Imam Al Shafi'i, Kitabul Umm, Volume 3, page 253)"

      and this is only Umar

      "In an authentic narration from Sunan Al Bayhaqi, Volume 2, page 363, Hadith no. 18685 we read the following story:

      Abu al-Hussain bin al-Fadhl al-Qatan narrated from Abdullah bin Jaffar bin Darestweh from Yaqub bin Sufyan from al-Hassab bin Rabee from Abdullah bin al-Mubarak from Kahmas from Harun bin Al-Asam who said: Umar bin al-Khatab may Allah be pleased with him sent Khalid bin al-Walid in an army, hence Khalid sent Dharar bin al-Auwzwar in a squadron and they invaded a district belonging to the tribe of Bani Asad. They then captured a pretty bride, Dharar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he did. Khalid said: 'I permit you and made it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write a message to Umar'. (Then they sent a message to Umar) and Umar answered that he (Dharar) should be stoned. By the time Umar's message was delivered, Dharar was dead. (Khalid) said: 'Allah didn't want to disgrace Dharar'

      Notice that Umar ibn Al Khattab (the second caliph) ordered the man who captured the slave girl and had sex with her to be stoned for this crime, for he took the slave girl unjustly."

      oh ok an actual hadith then

      "Saheeh Muslim

      Book 015, Number 4082:

      Hilal b. Yasaf reported that a person got angry and slapped his slave-girl. Thereupon Suwaid b. Muqarrin said to him: You could find no other part (to slap) but the prominent part of her face. See I was one of the seven sons of Muqarrin, and we had but only one slave-girl. The youngest of us slapped her, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded us to set her free.

      Book 015, Number 4086

      Abu Mas'ud al-Badri reported: "I was beating my slave with a whip when I heard a voice behind me: Understand, Abu Masud; but I did not recognise the voice due to intense anger. He (Abu Mas'ud) reported: As he came near me (I found) that he was the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and he was saying: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; bear in mind. Abu Mas'ud. He (Aba Maslad) said: threw the whip from my hand. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; verily Allah has more dominance upon you than you have upon your slave. I (then) said: I would never beat my servant in future."

      the Rabbi going to be in shit come Judgement.

  • Israeli forces shoot five Palestinians during raid of Sa'ir as siege of southern West Bank continues
    • dear Katie

      its rare in life that you get to see a young master, because the Gaza taraweeh didn't work,

      Fatih Sefaragic did Abasa (80) He Frowned, the famous rebuke to the Prophet,

      i think it stands for itself but just to say he is an amazing new thing these young Qari don't pause, no silence. i dont have the words but say the antiphonal complexity of the old style, basit, tibawi etc, but something quite new they generate an inner harmony, the awlad abdul basit.

      he finishes with at takwir shrouded in darkness. There is a very famous basit version where abdul basit displays the full range of his amazing mastery at times the crowd drown him out unable to contain themselves, the opening of at takwir here Fatih manages to reference it but he almost speaks its a profound tribute it is in its way like seeing Mozart. he is as great as abdulbasit.


      hope it works

  • US media fail to report video of soldiers shooting desperate Palestinian girl holding knife overhead
    • " happen to a young Muslim woman , wielding a knife"

      During Eid I was in the company of many young Muslim women wielding knives they seemed like other (that is non-Muslim for me) women with knives, well they said they were Muslim but made me pray in front of them so they could have been doing the hokey-cokey for all I know or wielding dual use kitchen implements, i survived but was criticized for not putting chilli in the ta'amiya, there was a heated tahini disagreement but it was resolved with spoons.

      what does happen to Muslim women Jon?

      Muslim women if we can't save them we should probably shoot them, Jon you are a real scream I don't think even Max Narr will sit with you at lunch and Hophmi can't reach you.

  • Modern-day lynchings: an international view
    • "but to talk with a caring professional who actually gets it "

      but just do you remember when we used to give a shit about each other, working class people be they black or white understand we must stand together, talk to each other, care for each other, let others judge.

  • How Israel accidentally validated my activism
    • "The “Judaism brand”? I suppose you could call it that."

      despite the brand damage Americans are still buying Islam in droves which is worrying to the American Christian whose brand receives almost universal support a Christian salesman notes

      " An American Muslim interviewed in a fairly recent book (Neighbors: Muslims in North America. Friendship Press, 1989) gave the following reasons when asked why African-Americans are turning to Islam.

      I have heard the same things from African-Americans in Philadelphia more than once. First on his list is racism in the church. "The discrimination that we feel makes Islam attractive to us because it's a way of rejecting the culture that will not have us. In sociological terms I think that one of the reasons that many African-Americans go to Islam as opposed to

      Christianity--and many of us have been raised Christian--is that the people doing these things to us are also Christian." How often does one not hear it said, "America is no more segregated than at eleven o'clock on Sunday mornings." The second reason he gives is, I believe, also important in the conversion of Anglo-Americans.

      "Another factor--and this is part of what attracted me to Islam--is direction and discipline." Our society is disintegrating for lack of discipline, especially in the city. Through its disciplined life-style, to many people Islam seems to hold out the promise of helping them get their lives back in order again."

      and finally if you don't need to get your shit together there is always this

      "Finally, there is a third factor which probably no one would ever mention explicitly, for obvious reasons, but which, I believe, is nevertheless important. This is the fact that Islam offers a conversion experience and the opportunity to get one's life in order, without needing to confess ones sin and need of salvation. In fact, Islam makes quite a point of denying these truths. It tells people they do not need salvation; all they need is to follow the "guidance" of God's law, and they will make it to heaven. That is something the natural man likes to hear."

      "the natural man likes" Islam, Islamicize its natural. (De-Islamicization not currently available)

  • Jewish entitlement, and Jewish populism
    • "stop derailing the conversation."

      Mooser fucked me up but the rev cheeks wants to come down in the grave with me,

      Mooser Cheeks is my thing now, the Nightingales we can discuss.

      "who is going in the grave with me" no trigger warning in the real world. I have no way to express my gratitude to everyone so i prefer insolence. Cheeks is the best

  • Separation and conquest: Israel's ideological barrier
    • " Karma is real folks, don’t ever doubt it."

      if you believe that then when you see an indigent soldier think,

      " may he happy, may he be well, may he be safe"

      think he is just another you.

  • Brooklyn Muslims mark July 4th protesting attack on teens leaving Ramadan prayers
    • "(e.g. the Magen David Synagogue on 67th Street was built in 1921)."

      that is 1921 BC?

      sorry 67th street got me excited, reminded me not to be so small minded, alcohol is excellent for expanding the Pranja that's from Marpa no less as per

      Tzava'at Harivash 67

      Sometimes a person worships in a state of katnut (“smallness;” limited or restricted consciousness): 1 he does not enter the supernal worlds at all. His thought, however, is directed to [the fact that] “the whole earth is full of His glory” (Isaiah 6:3), and that he is close to [God]. 2 In that state he is like a child whose mind is but slight and not yet developed. Nonetheless, though worshipping on a level of katnut, he does so with great deveikut. 3

  • Media accusations of blood libels -- against Abbas and Sanders -- amplify a Jewish tribal fantasy
    • "The victims of the wars and genocides of the 20th Century run into the high 10s of millions."

      Dr Polya of Melbourne Uni puts it thus : ( 1.3 billion avoidable deaths since 1950)

      "Avoiding mortality is clearly a primary goal of humanity and this book is about how and why the world has performed very badly in this quest over the last half century. Fundamentally, avoiding mortality requires sensible risk management, this involving the successive processes of reportage, scientific analysis and systemic change. Unfortunately, in most areas of human activity this “World’s Best Practice” protocol is replaced by its counterproductive obverse, namely (a) lack of reportage through censorship, self-censorship and intimidation); (b) politicized, corrupted and self-serving analysis; and (c) vengeful or cynical punishment of suitable culprits (rather than useful, risk-minimizing changes to flawed human systems). In the final analysis, we have to make sensible judgments about risks to human life and the proportionality and effectiveness of our responses.

      This book exposes the horrendous extent of global avoidable mortality that has totalled 1.3 billion since 1950, a figure consonant with an independent estimate of post-1950 under-5 infant mortality totalling about 0.9 billion. A broad attempt is made to rationalize this catastrophe. A major determinant is clearly war, foreign occupation and consequent increased disregard of rulers for their subjects. The last few pages of this book list positive suggestions for addressing the global avoidable mortality holocaust."

  • Ozick hagiography in NYT does her the service of leaving out her views of Palestinians
    • "Lerner was a bad rabbi for dropping out of the Jewish Theological Seminary and ending up at the Naropa Institute"

      oh he is Kagyu, that declare "We are the practice lineage"


      thats the Kagyu A team

      and on to the Karmapa's, but in all of that Rechungpa the derided pupil of Milarepa is my favourite, some woman married him and then he gave away all her families wealth to beggars who knocked at the door, they beat him, its best steer clear of religious guys we are not just useless but are a constant source of chaos.

      I was ruined by the Nyingma, in all honesty I have to say Vajrayana Buddhism and Dzogchen have done me the world of good now it all makes no sense whatever, we are all winners, worth having worse callouses on my buttocks than the soles of my feet, in the Nyingma we neither think nor talk but we do sing.. er... are the 4 thoughts by Gompopa, shit I am no better at Buddhism than I am at Islam, but don't judge, they both have so much stuff you are supposed to know and in order.

      ChogyamTrungpa Rinpoche, the Vidyadara, shook up the Abrahamic world, before the booze killed him, they don't come like that anymore old school and shockingly shamelessly bad. His main remaining pupil the nun Pema Chodron a white American? woman is the opposite very good totally gentle sober very famous her video teachings are wonderful.

      good for the Rabbi.

  • Israel should be deeply disturbed by the Brexit vote
    • anyone actually interested might like to read of the qays-yaman war, the watermelon war and in particular

      Yahya ibn Irmiya (john son of jermemiah) a Jew from Jund al-Urdun (Jordan), as opposed to Jund Filastin, who led an army of Arabs against other Arabs all in the 8th century,

      Qays-Yamani rivalry flared up quite recently mostly around Nablus, the designation Qaysi or Yamani being by now largely imaginary, I feel Qaysi because like Chiricahua the name is so pretty, Yamani eh ..

      why do Christians and Muslims from Bethlehem fly a white flag?

      while in Al-Khalil it is a red flag?

    • "Can you reveal when Palestine was ever an independent nation state, maybe name a few of its kings and queens, and then tell us what the Palestinian currency was?

      Or not."

      why would anyone want to?

      however as al Muqadassi in Persia remarked (10th century)

      " "One day I sat next to some builders in Shiraz; they were chiselling with poor picks and their stones were the thickness of clay. If the stone was even, they would draw a line with the pick and perhaps this would cause it to break. But if the line was straight, they would set it in place. I told them: 'if you use a wedge, you can make a hole in the stone'. And I told them of the construction in Palestine and I engaged them in matters of construction.

      "The master stonecutter asked me: Are you Egyptian?

      "I said: No, I am Palestinian.

      "He said: I heard that you carve stones like you would carve wood.

      "I said: Yes.

      "He said: Your stones are malleable and your craft gentle" [6]. "

    • "or that the “leave” victory has not strengthened racist forces and lent legitimacy to nativist and racist sentiment"

      "Nigel Farage's anti-migrant poster reported to police"

      "Within hours, Twitter users had pointed out the image’s inadvertent similarity to Nazi propaganda footage of migrants shown in a BBC documentary from 2005."

      "The archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, told MPs on the home affairs select committee this month that he utterly condemned Farage’s comment that sexual assaults by migrants were the “nuclear bomb” of the EU referendum."

    • "where are you located jack?"

      on the Dark Side obviously

  • Letters to Hillary
    • "which was before most Asian countries had any voting at all."

      there was one in West Asia called Palestine, used to be, ruled by a democratic country but not democratically, like India, Burma, Pakistan, Vietnam and some others, you are right naughty things had no vote is that because they are not nice to girls?

      " Ask Malala Yousafzai for further details about the position of women in Pakistan."

      and in no way engage your critical faculties, news like this just blows in the door,

      "Is Malala in real life the equivalent of Mrs. Bagchi of the Bollywood movie? Let us explore this further.

      Malala was born on July 12, 1997. Her father, Ziauddin Yousufzai, owns a number of for-profit schools. While almost everything else in Pakistan is going down the drain, for-profit schools and the closely related non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that are generously financed from abroad are thriving businesses.

      It was a BBC reporter Abdul Hai Kakkar who discovered Malala in early 2009. His assignment was to find a courageous schoolgirl willing to share her experiences of the threats by Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) against girls getting education. The TTP led by Mullah Fazlullah was shutting down schools in Swat Valley as it flexed its muscles. Kakkar approached Ziauddin Yusufzai for help and he willingly offered his own daughter’s experiences.

      The plan gelled into Malala, then 11 years old, writing her diary that the BBC World Service would put on its website under the title, “The Diary of a Pakistani School Girl.” In order to protect her identity, Malala was given the pseudonym “Gul Makai” (corn flower). The diary detailed Malala’s life under Taliban rule, their attempts to take control of the valley, and her views on promoting education for girls. One cannot help but wonder whether her father’s motive was in promoting girls’ education or he feared his income dwindling if the girls’ schools he was running were shut down.

      Malala’s cover, however, was blown that summer when Adam B. Ellick of the New York Times featured her in two videos describing her family’s life as well as showed her at school. This was the time the Pakistani military was about to launch an attack on Swat Valley. What was the reason for the Times to go public with this information and who is Adam Ellick? Scott Creighton, a war veteran who writes for the blog the American Everyman, had this to say about Ellick on October 17. “Meet Adam Ellick, the Council on Foreign Relations member and apparent CIA mockingbird stationed at the New York Times. He’s the guy who helped create the Malala Psyop in the first place, the plan to bring for-profit school systems to all of Pakistan.”

      The Times’ videos led to Malala gaining instant international fame. For the Pakistani media — print and electronic — this was a great opportunity to project their loyalty to America. That is where the dollar pipeline comes from. In the WikiLeaks cables released in 2010, the US embassy messages to the US State Department say Pakistani journalists are easily bought and can be made to do anything for a mere invitation to the US embassy. Despite such insulting revelations about their low character, the US-doting Pakistani journalists are not deterred.

      Malala’s Times videos brought the Pakistani media flocking to her door. She began giving interviews in the print and electronic media. We need to keep in mind that she was barely 11 or 12 years old at the time. At the same time, she was appointed chairperson of the District Child Assembly Swat. Further accolades followed when the Nobel Peace Prize winner, Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, nominated her in October 2011 for the International Children’s Peace Prize. But there was something else that was even more striking. Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan who died on December 13, 2010, had also discovered Malala, or her enterprising father. Their picture together has gone viral on the internet. Why would Holbrooke, a no nonsense diplomat, be interested in Ziauddin Yousafzai unless there was a larger plan at work? Two months after Bishop Tutu’s nomination of Malala, the Pakistani government came up with its own award: the “National Youth Prize Award,” a first for Pakistan, that was given to Malala.

      Her interviews on television were powerful and direct, even being blunt and provocative. It seemed as if the young Malala was deliberately being pushed to say things to provoke the Taliban. Here is what she said in one TV interview, “In a situation where a lifelong school break was being imposed upon us by the terrorists, rising up against that became very important, essential.” Considering that even Pakistani politicians surrounded by a phalanx of bodyguards and other security detachments speak more guardedly, Malala’s statements, however, true, were bound to evoke a strong reaction. This is not to suggest that the Taliban are right or that they should be allowed to intimidate people but the reality is that unless there is adequate security against such threats, it would be prudent not to provoke them unnecessarily."

      devils in the details as well those nasty foreign cultures obviously.

  • Post Orlando, a Muslim's comment on homophobia within the Muslim community
    • "I honestly have never encountered ordinary Muslims debating the merits and authenticity of a hadith in real life"

      we just so great aren't we you recall the crow Ghorab read Stephan Salisbury's "Mohamed's Ghosts"

      " Ghorab, who liked the Islamic community in Philadelphia but found the overall post 9/11 situation unlike anything he had ever encountered, was also willing to engage in such activities (dialog with state security officials in the US) his friends say-but apparently only to a point.

      He was not prepared to modify his deeply held religious beliefs in order to accommodate the well to do leaders of Al Aqsa( name of the mosque and thus the committee ) or local law enforcement officials. That may seem suspicious

      ( I can't highlight etc but) yet much of the friction seems to have revolved around the Quran's injunctions regarding diet. This had been a historically sensitive area for Al Aqsa , and several Imams who had argued that it was sinful to sell pork or alcohol-both forbidden by the Quran had been let go in the past, well before 9/11...

      ......If Ghorab had been circumspect and more politic he might simply have stayed off the subject, since Mosque leaders owned deli's and grocery stores selling forbidden foods, as well as restaurants that served alcohol.......but in the post 9/11 world warnings about bacon and wine could have serious ramifications"

      so in revenge the local Muslim leaders shopped him as a radical/terrorism threat and gutted the local community destroyed the mosque,

      "nobody can force you to believe or agree with anything in Islam"

      nothing to stop them trying dont get confused between Islam and Muslims, you know Simulcuz the way you talk is so demeaning to people like me what stupid things to say.

    • "and mazel tov on your great skill of selective copy-n-paste"

      careful now or i'll issue a fuckwa

    • something re the hadith

      The Prophet forbade the recording and dissemination of hadith, but this is Islam, its clear that the Rashidun observed this prohibition so that the hadith collections only came much later.

      in light of this many Muslims dismiss them in toto,

      also the content of the hadith has no bearing on its authenticity, if you think about it that's a necessary condition therefore hadith are authentic where the circumstantial evidence for the proximity of those mentioned to the Prophet was possible, no anachronisms, linguistically correct for dialects of those involved etc and if the chain of transmission contained persons of good reputation and mental soundness, this does not exclude errors of memory misunderstanding and such to which even the honest and careful are prone.

      so authenticity of hadith has nothing to do with its contents and is in no way an endorsement of its contents, which still may be bull, some are just disjointed bits of conversation which make no sense with these the scholars have a field day.

      one doesn't follow hadith, they are not commands, most Muslims never touch them.

      you could try

      Hadith literature: Its Origin, Development & Special Features by Muhammad Zubayr Siddiqi

    • "round hole because you cannot reconcile Islam with your western sensibility regarding persecution of gays. round hole because you cannot reconcile Islam with your western sensibility regarding persecution of gays. I’m pretty sure the classical commentators on Islam were mostly in agreement if not unanimous on how to handle gays.

      Please quote me someone big, like Bukhari or Muslim or someone of that stature if I’m just totally mistaken. The local friendly neighborhood San Francisco Imam just ain’t gonna cut it"

      you could no more perfectly demonstrate that you have no idea what the ahadith are, the status of the compilers, how Islam works, there are no Priests no one can set orthodoxy, Scholars have no authority and its not just your corner Imam who can make shit up any Muslim can, we are out of control.

      "I’m pretty sure the classical commentators on Islam were mostly in agreement if not unanimous on how to handle gays."

      you wear your ignorant stupidity with pride, bukhari muslim tirmidhi et al compiled news of the prophet precisely so that on those days Muslims could find nothing to argue about they could consult the sahih and fight about it, pretty sure about that.

      there is a hadith that says that when he died Muhammad had such a forceful erection it had to be strapped down, good isnad, it has had little effect on my life, its just a fucking hadith.

    • hi Katie you might like to take look at this, i was the guy Zaki Badawi sent to attend meetings with the authorities so that we could shoot down Sacranie's jaamati islami minions and deny them hegemony in the community, the UK state gave these Wahabi funded crooks far more credence and thus influence than they merited on any grounds and knighted the blithering utterly ignorant and corrupt Sacranie

      My eldest girl is gay but we are non-scene Muslims

      "In 2000, Zaki Badawi - an elderly but far-sighted scholar who was head of the Muslim College in London - took the unprecedented step of giving an interview to Gay Times.

      "In Britain," he said, "we Muslims are in a minority, and it should not be our task to encourage intolerance towards other minorities."

      Dr Badawi, who died earlier this year, told the magazine: "Homosexuality has always existed and continues to exist in all Islamic countries ... Many high-ranking leaders in the Islamic world are gay."

      Recalling the film My Beautiful Laundrette, which portrays a love affair between a British-Asian Muslim and his white boyfriend, he described it as "a useful reminder to the Muslim community that they cannot simply sweep gays and lesbians under the carpet".

      It is true, of course, that most Muslims today regard homosexuality as bad and do try to "sweep gays and lesbians under the carpet", but this is a product of society rather than their religion. The vast majority of Christians and Jews held a similar view half a century ago but since then significant bodies of opinion in Judaism and Christianity have begun to question it.

      Today, opinion in both Christianity and Judaism covers a broad range from outright hostility to complete acceptance, with many shades in between. As a result, it is no longer possible to speak of a single "Christian" or "Jewish" view of homosexuality. So far, there has been no comparable debate within Islam - but that doesn't mean to say it can't happen.

      There is a widespread misapprehension - repeated yesterday in readers' comments about Peter Tatchell's article - that the Qur'an "is plain in its condemnation of homosexuality". It is not plain at all and it depends, as with the Bible, on how you interpret the relevant verses. Nor is there any sound theological reason why Muslims should condemn anyone simply for being lesbian or gay.

      Nevertheless, while attitudes towards homosexuality in the west over the last few decades have generally been liberalising, Muslim countries have been moving in the opposite direction. This is largely a result of international politics. Perceptions of a domineering west, coupled with fears of globalisation and modernity have brought a revival of imagined "customs and traditions", along with the spread of rigid and puritanical versions of religion. Historically, though, Muslim societies have been relatively tolerant of sexual diversity - perhaps more so than others. Evidence of this can be found in classical Arabic literature, in the accounts of early travellers, and in the examples of Europeans who settled in Arab countries to escape sexual persecution at home.

      Muslim societies have also traditionally recognised that people can be attracted to members of their own sex, and have usually seen nothing wrong in that. It is worth remembering that in the Qur'anic vision of paradise, along with the famous 72 female virgins, the faithful enjoy endless supplies of drinks (non-alcoholic, of course) served by handsome young waiters.

      In orthodox Muslim teaching, the question of sin arises only when people act upon their sexual impulses, but same-sex acts are not among the small number of crimes for which a penalty is specified in the Qur'an. What punishment - if any - should be applied is a matter of opinion and interpretation. Furthermore, the levels of proof required by Islamic law are so high that if the rules are properly applied no one need ever be convicted unless they do something extremely blatant, like having sex in the street in broad daylight.

      The general idea in Islam is that sex should take place within a legalised framework that includes conventional marriage but can also extend to other forms of contractual relationship (such as slavery in the days when that was practised). The original purpose of this was to avoid disputes about parentage and inheritance in the event of pregnancy - an issue that is unlikely to arise in the case of same-sex couples."

    • Things change but the other is always the other, why can't they be more like us.

      " While Zweig sets forth a proposal for a Zionism that recognizes Arab rights, the novel does contain Orientalist representations of Arabs, but as i will argue, Zweig attempts to give a voice to the Arab population.
      Saud as mentioned earlier, embodies the stereotype of the young Arab boy who seduces Western male visitors, and the simultaneously alluring and dangerous nature of their relationship mirrors the notion that the Orient threatens Western masculinity"

      From Zionism and Revolution in European Jewish Literature.

      by Laurel Plapp

      p. 81

    • "the plain meaning of the holy texts"

      oh you are a fundamentalist, the "plain meaning" says who?

      look here is a Muslim scholar explaining, well you'll know the verses whose explication is this

      It's the old rule that drunks have to argue

      and get into fights

      The lover is just as bad: He falls in to a hole

      But down in that hole he finds something shining

      Worth more than any amount of money or power

      Last night the moon came dropping its clothes in the street

      I took it as a sign to start singing,

      falling up into the bowl of sky

      The bowl breaks. Everywhere is falling everywhere

      Nothing else to do.

      Here's the new rule: Break the wine glass

      and fall toward the glassblowers breath"

      Now wipe the spittle from your lips and tell me

      That not what you got from it?

  • Palestinians in North America: Our rent to pay
  • The naked racism of 'Save Jewish Jerusalem'
    • "a term like “anti-Gentilism” (taking in everyone non-Jewish, or at least all Christians) like “anti-white” shows them in the starkest terms the short odds"

      we urgently need to establish a Gentile refuge, if only they had a territory of their own somewhere. So persistent and pervasive is anti-gentilism Chaucer himself famously engaged in Gentile consciousness raising "a veray parfit gentil knight" quoth he, it was a special feature back in medieval central gentalia, yes at the last minute i lost my nerve.

    • looking at the first screenshot I would like to volunteer that I do know the meaning of primitive, its the hilarious inability of Israelis to tie a kuffiyah, its worse than blackface, he looks ridiculous, observe the simple elegance of mere striplings,

  • 'Politico' dares to publish Ehrenreich saying occupation fosters terrorism, and 'Camera' goes haywire
    • As the Prophet Gandhi exclaimed in 1938

      "There are hundreds of ways of reasoning with the Arabs, if they will only discard the help of the British bayonet.

      As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them.

      I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regarded as an unwarrantable encroachment upon their country.

      But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds."

  • 'Boycott' Israel over J'lem prayer rules, but 'work' against occupation -- Forward's double standard
    • " Try and comfort yourself with that thought, “gamal” "

      no dont you see gamal no longer really exists, i can no longer plagiarize myself others can never really plagiarize me to the final cliche, also no more youtube thumbnails for me just links,

      but who is the real victim here me or posterity.

    • hey man it should be a couple thousand or more, i am very industrious.

    • "seems most of my archive has disappeared"

      mine too, nothing lasts.

  • Dennis Ross tells American Jews, 'We need to be advocates for Israel' -- and not for Palestinians
    • "Colonel Lang speaks, reads, and write Arabic. Taught it at West Point where he created all instructional programs in the Arabic Language and Middle East Studies 40 years ago for the US Military. He lived in North Yemen and Saudi Arabia for eight years. (He has seemed particularly sympathetic to the Yemenis in Saudi Arabia’s latest attacks on them, and has written fondly of the tribes and military personnel he lived among.)"

      well yes fair enough but how would you defend

      "It is a feature of Arab culture that there is little belief in “win-win” solutions and a great belief that all of life is a “zero sum game.” In general it is thought that there are winners and there are losers. Full stop the Brits would say. In general Arabs believe that parties to a conflict negotiate to achieve as painless and as graceful a surrender by the weaker party as possible."

      I say Hudaybiya is quite well known among some readers of Arabic how does this express these features of Arab culture so clearly discerned by the Colonel, why wiki even has something on it so you don't even need Arabic to luxuriate in the eminent Colonels idiocy, what a good sport he is, he clearly has little respect for his audience and why should he?

      Yes the Arabs no history of negotiation, compromise, politics or treaties its their culcha init, zero sum.

      that assertion doesn't strike you as a bit odd?

    • "It is a feature of Arab culture that there is little belief in "win-win" solutions and a great belief that all of life is a "zero sum game." In general it is thought that there are winners and there are losers. Full stop the Brits would say. In general Arabs believe that parties to a conflict negotiate to achieve as painless and as graceful a surrender by the weaker party as possible. The normal Arab assumption is that a request to talk is simply a signal of acceptance of defeat. In the context of CD II, it is clear that Arafat and many other Arabs thought Palestinian persistence had finally achieved its goal and that the Americans and Israelis were about to surrender to Palestinian demands regarding East Jerusalem, etc."

      i would urge caution when reading tracts like the above remember stupidity is catching.

      is belief in "win-win" now the sine qua non of civilization?

      is it impossible for Americans to study Arab history wherein such "features" of the culture feature not at all?

      at least America is now post racist, at least we can cleave to that.

  • Barak says Trump should name Rice or Gates v.p. to improve his chances from 30 percent
  • Clintonites oppose 'occupation' mention in platform-- as Cornel West says party is 'beholden to AIPAC'
    • Report on Israel lobby in Brussels by Cronin, Marusek and Miller

      Contents of this report
      We start this report by examining, the two main ‘Friends of Israel’ groups in chapter one. European
      Friends of Israel, in particular, has become a focal point for pro-Israel activities in Brussels. We look
      at its neoconservative politics and at those of the Friends of Israel Initiative, as well as their less
      than transparent finances.
      The second chapter deals with organisations that have recently established branches in Brussels,
      such as the American Jewish Committee and Christian Zionist groups like the Israeli Allies
      Foundation and European Coalition for Israel. We also examine the activities of some of the lesser-
      known pro-Israel and Zionist organisations in Brussels, including those that represent themselves
      as experts on terrorism.
      The EU’s close relationship with Israel is the focus of the third chapter, beginning with their growing
      trade relations. We then look at the announcement of new EU guidelines in 2013 restricting business
      with the settlements and the subsequent political fallout.
      Chapter four details the Israel lobby’s campaign to encourage the West to isolate, and at times
      even militarily attack, groups and states that resist Israel’s occupation of Palestine.
      And finally, in chapter five, we focus on the lobby’s recent attempts to silence any criticism of Israel
      by claiming that its critics represent ‘the new anti-Semitism’. "

  • As San Francisco mourns Orlando, Trump pulls Clinton his way
    • "we have done some stupid things around the world"

      with all due respect i think you should consider rephrasing that, people are fighting the USA not out of either hatred or anger but because the US is attacking them.

      you think this is a record of stupidity?

    • lets be honest when Muslims do it its the USA governments fault, Eqbal Ahmad and the rest of us did tell you,
      "“In Islamic history, jihad as an international violent phenomenon had disappeared in the last 400 years, for all practical purposes. It was revived suddenly with American help in the 1980s. When the Soviet Union intervened in Afghanistan, Zia ul-Haq, the [U.S.-backed] military dictator of Pakistan, which borders on Afghanistan, saw an opportunity and launched a jihad there against godless communism. The U.S. saw a God-sent opportunity to mobilize one billion Muslims against what Reagan called the ‘Evil Empire.’"

      Americans I was dealing with in the 80's/90's were just gungho, its going to get one whole lot worse.

      Ben Norton at salon explains

      "We created Islamic extremism: Those blaming Islam for ISIS would have supported Osama bin Laden in the ’80s"

      "Many pundits, including liberals, have argued that the Middle East, North Africa and Muslim-majority parts of South Asia are presently going through their parallel to the West’s Dark Age, a bloody period of religious extremism. They blame the rise of extremist groups like ISIS and al-Qaida on Islam itself, or on the Middle East’s supposedly “backward” culture, yet conveniently gloss over their own countries’ sordid histories and policies.

      There is much more than a tinge of racism in this orientalist idea that, for some reason, Muslims in the Middle East are centuries behind the enlightened Christian West. This ludicrous claim does not stand up to even the most superficial historical scrutiny.

      For one, never mentioned is the fact that, only decades ago, most Middle Eastern countries were Western colonies. Their civilian populations were terrorized and brutalized by Western colonial powers.

      And, again, what were the most secular and modern governments in the history of the Middle East? It was almost always the Soviet-aligned or non-aligned leftist governments that were either enemies of the West or non-allies in the Cold War."

  • The struggle of refugees in Lebanon, Greece, and Germany: An interview with Hala Gabriel
    • so am i Stephen I thought you were being boycotted because of the racism, but I don't have my finger on the civilized folks pulse.

  • Democrats head to a crossroads over Palestinian rights as primary season comes to an end
    • "Bottom line is that the quote you gave is disgusting and in my view racist."

      do you mean:

      “a Rockefeller Republican in black face”

      while i have never seen Rockefeller Republican before i can guess and disgust is a personal matter what is racist about this statement?

  • Democratic Party leadership lines up against BDS -- and the 'nuts' who support it
  • Two Palestinians were executed on Hebron street in March, not just one -- B'Tselem
    • dear Mooser its complete called Departure '82, when those who defended her and fought for her were leaving Lebanon, flying a flag woven from Arab duplicity cowardice and complicity, but those days are over that is what these young people represent those two dead end to powerlessness.

      Saadi's best poem for Americans is the master work America America, I wrote an answer to it wherein I demonstrated that we ghetto scum are far worse than any Arabs or even the oppressors, " I am the snake that your cult handles" being the only line I now recall anyway the collection "without an Alphabet without a Face" is required reading, he is so good it makes one cringe to pretend to do the same thing

    • "the lines of verse"

      both quotes are Saadi Youseff, he is like an ordinary person but is full of blessings even though he is just an Iraqi he was blessed with the hook nose and buck teeth of the uber-semite,

      also in Arabic he wrote the most wonderful elegy to male ineptitude, without laughing once...


      How will I drag my feet to her now?
      In which land will I see her
      and on which street of what city
      should I ask about her?
      And if I find her house
      (let's suppose I do)
      will I ring the bell?
      How should I answer back?
      And how will I stare at her face
      as I touch the light wine
      seeping between her fingers.
      How should I say hello...
      and how will I take the pain of all these years?
      twenty years ago
      in an air-conditioned train
      I kissed her all night through...

    • " to reduce surveillance videotape"

      "Well it is a very free language. I mean you can create new words in Arabic. So, you can say that it is an open language, a language that a poet can always renew. If you know Arabic well with a classical formation, in a way you will be more free because you will see more things. You can work within the language to create a new word and it will be understood. It will not be considered strange."

      for example...

      all the rooms will be closed,
      and beginning with the basement,
      we will leave them
      by one
      until we reach the guns
      on the roof.
      We will leave them too . . . like the rooms
      and go on
      to search in our blood
      or in our maps
      for new rooms.

  • Happy 100th birthday Bernard Lewis!
    • Drunk and battered at martial arts seminars i met Bernard at a dinner with the king of morocco he was very worried about American Christian anti semitism

      We the Arabs pissed ourselves laughing at him the mans is an idiot

  • Max Boot has perfect propaganda on murdering medic-- but Jeffrey Goldberg is silent
    • " The horrors that befell the people of Vietnam,"

      " Of course there are other critical avenues that are entirely legitimate in condemning Israel’s behavior towards the Palestinian people."

      especially when voiced by Palestinians who are not only not complicit in America's serial crimes but were in fact in solidarity with people of Vietnam, both politically and practically

      George Habash called for the creation of little Hanoi's through out the middle east, it hasn't happened yet but i can hardly wait.

  • 'Why is water dangerous?' A Palestinian plea to the US Congress

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