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The Israelis and their Lobby are consistent about one thing - they will screw the Palestinians every which way but loose ...
Gee - if Sen Kirk and Israel wait another 30 yrs they can declare the Refugee Problem solved since there will be no more living personally displaced Refugees - as if that wasn't the plan all along
I've been very hopeful about these talks but it now seems to be that this is down to the short ones and is really a test of strength now to see if Israel and her Lobby can totally botch the recent positive developments, just as they have successfully done over the last several years
If Israel and her Lobby are deadset against not being free to attack Iran - which they are - will success in these talks and an Israeli attack be able to be thwarted?
The more I have to see Bibi's mug the more I think this is just Israeli Lobby-style promotion for Bibi ahead of the final Lobby push to shove America into Iran
What would be too shocking for most Americans is if the photo headline was 'Meet Your New King' - that's certainly what the US Congress is paid to think and to genuflect
The King says we must go to war against the Iranians at the behest of Israel, all opposed?
Kristol is bored with the Palestinian argument with Ben-Ami. He has other things to do that are more important than just rebottling his usual lies for this audience.
Kristol and the Neocons' attentions are all currently focused on ginning up the war with Iran, as that is really the key to maintaining the Israeli status quo with Palestine. If the Iran attack is off, then Apartheid Israel is naked in the wind without a figlead
If Kristol and the Neocons lose the Iran war - it's gameover for the status quo in Israel and they know it. The prize is the war in Iran - the lid boiling over on Apartheid in Israel will just have to wait because if the Neocons don't get Iran they have lost the whole game
I haven't been a big fan of J-Street or Jeremy Ben -Ami, as I see them functioning as the AIPAC-lite good cop most of the time, but he sure put Kristol on a particular silver platter this time around.
Who in that audience could have missed the raw stark reality of just who Kristol is and what he really wants - 'more of the same forever or for as long as we can get away with it, whichever comes first'
Kristol's weakness is being exposed because he is defending such a weak and craven argument but he will continue do so past the expiration date of 'status quo Israel' - it's only that he has gotten away with it for so long that he is still unembarassed enough to continue to openly embarass himself, which is exactly what he did.
Ad hominens aside, he looked like an overweight 4yr old who just stole his younger sibling's toy and is refusing to give it back, and was used to never having to give anything back , that he has a special 'in' with his parents such that he himself can get away with anything forever
I can just imagine his shrieks of protest as Apartheid is dismantled out from under his feet - it will appear to him as if were living in a house of cards once it starts collapsing - and there will be no bottom.
Israel is much like Kristol - there just is no bottom to it's crimes against the Palestinians. If Israelis make one move against the Settlers today in 2012 then you immeditely crash thru a tier of the house of cards and you're back to '67. If you expose and try to deal with the Israeli lies of '67 you immediately crash thru to the Israeli lies and ethnic cleansing of '48, and the unholy of unholies, Right of Return as guaranteed by UN Resolutions, Int'l Law, and the Geneva Conventions.
Where do you stop? The only answer Kristol and Israel have is to never begin. In desperation of the anticipated collapses, Israel has always just desperately decided to never start because there really is no stopping
Where it stops in reality is the One State because Israel has made sure, has guaranteed by explicit policy and choice that a 2 State Solution never be permitted - and this is because Israelis have realized over and over again, when it really came down to it, they could never take off number of cards necessary for a Palestinian state to exist because the whole Israeli house of cards would come down if they ever did.
Israel no longer has a 2 state option - it is just her Wm Kristol-like bravado that she will try to brazen out the currrent Apartheid, as supported by her bought and paid support in the US Congress
There is nothing underneath Kristol except and his just desserts except a few cards and the same goes for Israel writ large
So few major artists in Hollywood have the guts to do with Patinkin just did - he really is a brave man and the world needs a lot more like him (well - perhaps just a few or 'enough' more)
'Over the past decade, fringe ideas about Muslims and Islam have SEEPED into law enforcement agencies across the country' - baloney!
Islamophobia has been driven into the American psyche by racist Jews (Gaffney, Cliff May, Joe Lieberman, etc) intent on indoctrinating their phony Islamophobia into America until America is a mirror of Israel, eternally 'forced' to fight Muslims for her very existential existence
It's a stinking rotten setup and Israel has made America that biggest sucker that ever lived
Teaching Americans to kill 'Arabs/Muslims' - by lying them into Iraq and now trying to lie us into attacking Iran - is done simply to further the Israeli objective of putting us into the same boat as Israel, where Israel kills her Palestinians.
Israelis are the most intolerant manipulative group of people to cast a shadow over America, and America will never be 'the same', if it ever really was
Israel is an existential threat to America - it hoaxed us into Iraq and even now is hoaxing us into Iran, and it has hoaxed our civilian police depts and military thru the Israeli 'Dept of Homeland Security', run by one Neocon after another
Biden is so far up the arse of Israel that now he is a ventriloquist's dummy for Bibi
These Israeli Mafiosos get real upset when they step on each other's toes
Where is the rest of the world tromping on Israel's feet until she gives up her Apartheid fantasies
The Israelis are apparently right - it's money that makes the world go round - all they have to do is drag a $100 bill thru the Congressional Trailer Park and they have all the friends they could ever want, with 100-zip margins if need be
Bummer!
One battle in a long war
The amazing thing to me is how elegantly Simons threw Oren over and called him out and embarassed him over his Mafia Tactics
We need this 100% of the time in the American media - it's standing up to bullies instead of being cowards
Oren and the Israeli Firsters are fools and by letting them get away with their hasbara and their bullying we forget what a fair fight is all about
Congratulations Simons, on having cojones
Amazing interview - I wonder when Terry Gross is going to interview Nasrallah on NPR?
But then Terry Gross would actually be being of service to the American people to counteract the pervasive trance of Israeli Media Mafia instead of being an enabler
The biatch watched 'Inglorious Bastards' once too often
I'm wondering if Benny Morris just didn't collapse under pressure from Zionist family/social bubble/Israeli academia rage and excommunication much like Goldstone did...
It's tough to face enraged reactions to your professional work but when it means you lose your mommy, social network , whole social identity and Jewish identity it starts to threaten your personal identity as to such an extent and they just can't take the heat so they get out of the kitchen
Take away your god, your friends, your family and your identity ... these guys can't take it
Two great new articles up on MJ's blog already - he seems to be a little bit more, 'uncorked' than usual, but in the best way possible
Congratulations MJ - gotta make new room on my favorites list
Israeli Jews permanently keep Palestine 'off the Agenda'
Bust the framework!
'Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem continues uninterruptedly'
And that, of course, is the whole thrust of the entire Israeli argument regarding Iran
Would Israeli rather see the world engulfed in WWIII, even with the US going up against China and India, rather than deal with Palestine? That's exactly what Bibi has in mind.
In losing the Occupied Territories Israel loses ALL - thus all is justified
So spake Narcissus Bibi...
link to counterpunch.org
I don't know when I've seen an article that just so clearly speaks to the very basis of the problem like this one does - the conflict will be resolved when the Israeli Lobby's mitts are taken OFF the Middle East
Absolutely right on ...
The US has been the biggest impediment to Middle East Peace because the Israeli Lobby dictating foreign policy has been in charge on the policy - and the last thing they want (completely in synch with the Israeli facists themselves) is peace, other than a prostrate Bantustan-like 'virtual state of Palestine', which is essentially no different than what they have right now, except for more Israeli entrenchment in the West Bank
Beautiful article - makes my morning
The Israeli/Israeli framing of the argument is over when articles like this so effectively demolish that frame - for too long the Israelis dictated the framework of the argument itself
Yes!
It's like the spell of Netanyahu and the warmongers in Israel has been broken - maybe that is the good that will come out of the issue of 'Iran'
Duh - Israel is crossing all red lines by an attack on Iran.
There is a phenomena that I have noticed happening amongst progressive Jews involved in this fight of ideas who seem to just wake up one day and realize on a very personal basis that they themselves have become a threat to Zionism - it seems to be a kind of guilt or 'buyer's remorse' when they realize that they themselves are becoming a threat to Zionism and they are perhaps losing more than they ever realized they had signed up for
Examples I am thinking of include Goldstone with his 'I was just kidding' attempt to sabotage and even recant his report), Finklestein with his recent emotionally charged attack on BDS, and even just today with Bradley Burston's article in today's Haaretz. It is as if they were basking in a kind of intellectual dream of being such noble independents and freethinkers but then an emotional realization dawns upon them of what they are losing and what they have already done and that just really shakes them to the core.
I think for them it's kind of a psychological loss that they don't find themselves equipped to deal with other than returning closer to the fold, 'mothers', tribe, safety, etc
I don't think this happens in a vacuum but rather is a result of the ostracization and intense pressure and guilt unleashed upon them by the tribe and their family members still members of the tribe in good Zionist standing (they must get the hate-mail treatment by AIPAC, etc by the ton) - but they seem to really have personal and emotional backlash to their previous work rather than going the final 9 yards and just 'getting over Zionism'.
That last hump of leaving it behind for good and burning all the bridges seems to be quite a challenge - but isn't it always?
Here's to hoping that Beinart catches the Glenn Greenwald, Mondoweiss, Silverstein--fever and just breaks free of the tyranny of socialized prison of Zionism for good. There is nothing good about Zionist Apartheid - nothing...
It's a big deal and and I think a real personal catharsis for people making this transcendence - probably quite a bit bigger than coming out as gay in 2012 America, loss of a family member, etc.
It's a shaking of their whole reality when they realize that it's not just a game anymore and the Israel as we know it is over and they have had a hand in it, even if accepting that is actually experienced as a traumatic shock to them
extraordinarily well done...
For Israel it's just been one long tirade of hasbara ever since, trying to defend the indefensible with any lie necessary
Great essay really cutting right thru the Israeli fuzzy math (and Finkelstein's 'mini-Goldstone moment', if that's what it is) and right to the heart of the matter.
Finkelstein is simply flat wrong here, and it is very important to realize that no matter how powerful or even instrumental Finkelstein has been in the past
Very clear thinking, support, and exposition - thanks
The Israeli Lobby-elephant in the room is the fact that the Israeli Lobby drove the US into the Iraq war, and is doing the same thing with Iran, with a unique protection afforded by the ability to smear any critique or discussion, if not the person themselves, trying to provide alternatives or trying to stop their plans
It’s as if the Israelis have given themselves (and convinced or guilted most of the world to accept it) a get-out-of-jail free pass entitling them to commit any crime, with near impunity, out of the reach of ordinary mortal men.
Thus the Neccons who lied us into Iraq are taking a second bite at the apple and lying us into Iran, and they will get away with that, with their reputations intact enough to launch their next war for Israel AFTER Iran
This is a hiding behind a special protection from exposure and description of their motives and authorship of their plans, exposure of and knowledge of which are absolutely essential to stop them
Israelis have given themselves carte blanche and make they make sure they keep the card renewed everything they show their power and destroy the life of any of their critics. Americans are left to have to read foreign papers to even hear a discussion, so nearly watertight is their control.
Israel and her Israel Lobby thus police the discussion of Israeli motives and enforce the consequences of any diversion from the party line.
This has enabled them to ‘get away’ with Apatheid in Israeli and warmongering us into Iraq and now Iran unlike anything a progressive society in any other nation could even imagine
The Israelis have thus put themselves beyond discussion, beyond the ability of the media and journalists to question them, without subjecting oneself to the inevitable career assassination that we all have seen - if Joe Lieberman ever has his way he will criminalize any criticism of Israel whatsoever. It's the perfect crime
The reason America so ‘blindly’ stumble into these wars is actully not blindness at all – it is rather the fear of being publically destroyed for calling it like it is. Avoiding a discussion of the Isareli Lobby pushing us into wars is an avoidance of why we get into these wars at all.
That is not blindness or stupidity – it is fear
The American public and her leaders are prepped by the media campaign in the US until like consent is manufactured, and surprisingly, the American news-watching public believes Saddam Hussein ordered 9-11 or that Iran already has a bomb and is threatening America. They don’t even need to change the script it is such a foolproof plan
Israelis and their Israeli Lobby in the US are policing the discussion and their enforcement is career-ending for anybody who stands in their way – from politicians, presidents, or journalists and opinion writers
The time has come to say things plainly – it the Israeli Lobby that lied and defrauded America into a war against Iraq and they are doing the same thing with Iran. To not stop them is unworthy of America
Ours is a republic if we can keep it alright, and with our Israeli Lobby in full control of our foreign policy and political campaigns we have indeed lost it.
Israel and her Israel Lobby deliberately creates the conditions where an 'accident' is inevitable and then capitalizes on it - that's their entire modus operandi
If there was not such a media blackout on these machinations then these tactics would be able to be stopped or otherwise aughed out of operation - so that's why they need the media as well
Just to make sure the accident can be spun for their purposes, Sen Joe Lieberman and the rest of the AIPAC cut-outs in Congress make sure there are no lines of communication or diplomacy possible in order to maximize the chances of a Neocon-sought 'accident' that can be used as a casus belli
Very succinct and cogent video of the Israeli push to foment another war for Israel - by Ray McGovern. Don't think I've heard the whole package summed up so nicely all in one place and in such a concise format ...
It's the RT video embedded in the article that is the real jewel...
Divining the Truth About Iran
link to original.antiwar.com
The Israelis and Lobby lied America into Iraq to teach American society that it is normal to kill Arabs, just as Israel kills Arabs
Now the Arab/Muslim is the enemy in Hollywood, the Media, and amongst Israeli Lobby-financed Politicians
The whole thing is so sick and so huge it just makes me cringe
Israel and the US - going after the Muslims all over the world - with Bibi Netanyahu calling the shots - forever (esp after what is going to happen in Iran)
Dennis Ross - the Johnathan Pollard of Foreign Policy
Secret meetings with Netanyahu and continued access to the White House and top security clearance - Dennis is almost certainly a point figure for Israeli manipulation of American anti-Iran policy and plans for war
Is there anything Obama knows that Netanyahu doesn't know, as a result of this one man and this one man alone?
UNLIKELY...
Who needs AIPAC, Rosen, Franklin and the others when you have Dennis Ross?
Preview of the Newest Anti-Semitism circa 2020:
The world allowed or otherwise didn’t stop Israel from setting up an Apartheid State because the world is genetically or at least unconsciously anti-semitic and just wanted a reason to hate Jews.
It was all a trick so as to give non-true human beings an excuse to express their latent anti-semitism.
Of course it couldn’t be the Israelis simply didn't give a damn about anyone else to the point of ethnic cleansing anyone in their way, or perhaps even that Israelis have an unconscious need to create a world that hates them, because that’s one of the deep anchors the culture gins up for a major portion of it's sense of identity
"If Israel sees Chinese and Russian fleets moving towards the Gulf; it may hold back"
How about if the Chinese declares Iran to be of vital strategic interest (similarly to what Carter did in the 70's with the ME) and ships a couple of boatloads of antiship missiles to them, and tells Tel Aviv that any belligerent illegal attack on Iran will be met with retaliation upon Israel?
The Russians can throw in all those S300 state of the art antiaircraft systems for good measure
This is not in support of war, but quite to the contraray - this is to so strongly stiff-arm the Israelis that their political leadership will need to be regime-changed internally.
If the US has two or three carrier battle groups in the Persian Gulf and Israel sneak-attacks Iran – Iran certainly possesses enough firepower (Sunburn, Yakhont, and indigenous missiles) to both sink these carrier groups as well as shut down the Hormuz Strait
There will be blood on Israel’s hands if it attacks Iran without giving the US the several days notice necessary to deploy outside the Persian Gulf
An Israeli sneak attack upon Iran is essentially an Israeli sneak attack on the US Fifth Fleet and any other carrier groups unlucky to be in the Gulf , which have already been warned that they may experience a severe Sunburn when the Iranian missiles start flying after an Israel or Israeli/US attack
When do we get to have the revolution that kicks the Israeli Lobby out of our Congress? - they are essentially Israelis that have infiltrated the US, and altogether are more dangerous than a hundred Jonathan Pollards
Israel's security is incompatible with giving up Apartheid
That's going to be a problem for ya...
The Israelis have been deliberately psychologically traumatizing Palestinian children and the rest of their culture for several generations now.
These guys are worse than Nazis - if and when there is One State there should be millions of dollars directed to psychological services as well as all the other services the Palestinians need after having been brutalized by the Israelis for so many years
It makes me sick that Jewish Americans still support the deliberate Israeli policies designed to traumatize and beat down generation after generation of Palestinian children until they submit to their lords
I disagree here with Barghouti - the Israelis have psychologically damaged 100,000's of Palestinians already
I'm counting the days before Netanyahu and AIPAC pressure Obama into forcing Panetta to recalibrate that line
Israel and her Lobby have the US where they want them, once again. There are probably a dozen different way the Lobby will manufacture a miscalculation at this point, with the Gulf of Hormuz at near full boil, and finagle a way into a war
The Israel Lobby will just keep taking bites at the apple, such as: Iran responsible for US deaths in Iraq, Iranian weapons in Iraq, UN planes painted with US colors(floated by Bush), US Navy Seals dressed up as Iranians (floated by Cheney), Israeli Lobby financial strangulation of Iran (an act of war according to Ron Paul), threats over closure Hormuz, more Iranian scientists murdered, more explosions at Iranian military sites, more drones over Iranian airspace, more US/Israeli Stuxnet-like cyber attacks, more MEK-attacks. more Israeli subs off the Iranian coast, more US warships off the coast, etc, etc, etc
How much more of this can Iran stand before it 'makes a mistake' or somebody responds? The Israel Lobby wants war and it will have it
Panetta? I think Panetta is sloppy and here we are hanging on his words ...
Israel should be forced close up her Apartheid shop and go home from the Occupied Territories
As long as Israel and her Israeli Lobby have been able to keep Egypt a puppet, Saudi Arabia in line, and Iran and Iraq cowed, she was able to create and maintain the Apartheid apparatus.
Egypt is now significally loose from Israeli/Israeli Lobby control, and if Israel cannot beat Iran down - then Israeli/US hegemony in the Middle East will be vastly destabilized and the end of Apartheid ever closer
Israel and the AIPAC-controlled MSM has been very careful to keep these Jewish Taliban Haredi out of the headlines
Nearly everything we see is of Israel is the sanitized Potemkin Village village approved by Israeli progaganda - where all illegal settlements are Jewish neighborhoods (remarkably similar to upscale SoCal properties), all spokespeople are speaking 'American', and everything is wonderful about the Start-Up Nation that sucking America dry politically and militarily, and which Israel btw controls.
I say let these skinheads out of the bag and let America see what the Palestinians have to contend with - guaranteed 20% favoribility drop for American support of Israel
Ginsberg is just another Neocon Terrorist
Here's a Rosetta Stone I found for 'MEK', Annie - we can take our pick of any of the 5 aka's we want.
'Mojahedin Khalq' aka MEK = MKO = MOK = 'Rajavi Cult' - take your pick
Perhaps since the Neocons and the rest of the Israeli Lobby have been so promiently in the news of late trying so hard (oh yeah, plot thickening) to get the 'MEK' delisted from their terror designation for HELPING TAKE OVER the American Embassy in Iran in the '70's (gotta love it!) - maybe the NYT thought splashing 'MEK' all over the article in a way that people can easily connect the dots would be 'counterproductive' to rehabilitating MEK's image.
Can you imagine if MEK gets tagged for this and a Neocon false flag operation is unravelled - and what that will do for the whole Israeli Special Forces and US Special Forces operating base for clandestine attacks within Iran? It would be like unravelling the Niger Uranium Hoax with Micahel Ledeen and his connections to Israeli Intelligence - and finally getting the Israeli Lobby (and Israel) blamed for the the false flag operation lying us into Iraq.
Seymour Hersh: US Training Jondollah and MEK for Bombing preparation
'Preparing the Battlefield'
link to newyorker.com
Hopefully this whole false flag farce with Iran can be turned and used to STOP the coming Israeli/US attack on Iran - unbelieveable...
Israel and her Neocons could have just tried to pull off a false flag operation against the US - is so then it is treason (the Israeli Lobby) or a false flag operation (Israel) and it will be essentially the same thing they did with their Iraqi 'Curveball' and the 'Yellowcake Uranium Fraud' to lie us into Iraq
Check this out from the NYT and other sources - would a 'friend' get America to attack first Iraq and then Iran for Israel? No way...
Apparently the Iranian Quds force guy Gholam Shakuri has been visiting 'Neocon and Israel Central' at the MEK Camp in Kurdistan-Iraq (Camp Ashraf ) as well as in WASHINGTON, DC
Currently being reported in the NYTimes link to nytimes.com
and below
link to mehrnews.com
This would point to an Israeli/Neocon connection on the Iranian side of the equation - if the IsraelIS themselves can be nailed it is essentially a false flag op against the US
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Interpol has found new evidence showing that the number two suspect in connection with the alleged Iranian government’s involvement in a plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington is a key member of the terrorist Mojahedin Khalq Organization (MKO), the Mehr News Agency has learnt.
Gholam Shakuri was last seen in Washington and Camp Ashraf in Iraq where MKO members are based.
The person in question has been travelling to different countries under the names of Ali Shakuri/Gholam Shakuri/Gholam-Hossein Shakuri by using fake passports including forged Iranian passports. One passport used by the person was issued on 30/11/2006 in Washington. The passport number was K10295631.
I can't believe that Hamas didn't take the opportunity to spring Marwan Barghouti - I'm wondering if they've started considering him more of a political threat to Hamas than they 've previously thought of him or something else entirely is going on. As late as 2009 they were saying it was 'no deal' without Barghouti
If so I'm disappointed with Hamas' shortsightedness - hopefully they are looking beyond Abbas and seeing something they like
There's a short blurb in one of the above articles with Barghouti saying he didn't even know much about the deal and wasn't consulted regarding it
Our foreign aid to Israel is more like an organized crime kickback.
The Israeli Lobby has an ironclad grip on American political campagins these days and every candidate is visited by AIPAC and asked one simple litmus test question ... 'Will you or will you not vote to continue the billions in year to Israel?'
It is financial intimidation and AIPAC makes it very clear that they will launch an all out support of one's political challenger is the answer is not in the affirmative
The Israeli Lobby selects out Congressional candidates that will vote Pro-Israel and then uses these individuals to vote all things Pro-Israeli. This is a rigging and corrupting of our political system
It is an organized crime scheme
Terrific article, Jeffrey
Really scholarly and a treasure trove of context
Thanks
This is why there will not be a Two State Solution (other than a phony 'bantustan' one) - it would mean an Israeli Civil War
"Twenty years of a U.S.-controlled process designed to maintain Israeli power and privilege is over — it’s enough. Now the challenge remains to create a new, UN-based process grounded in international law, equality and human rights — for all."
If Israel is going to be challenged by the Palestinians with a negotiation position 'grounded in International Law' then those are 1948 borders
Israel has been a Ponzi Scheme nearly from it's inception - it's as every move they have made is to provide cover for their previous illegal move.
Every Israeli act has been created to make it impossible for Res 194 to ever be instituted and to somehow keep the 70% of Palestinians in the Diaspora out of 'Greater Occupied Palestine'
It Palestine really insists on a resolution in confomance UN Resolutions (esp UN194), the Geneva Conventions and all International Law - that of course means the 'One State Solution'
Israel's main thrust has been to support Palestinian-go betweens that would sign off no 'Bantustan-Palestine' rather than one that takes into account the Palestinian Diaspora
Are the Palestinians (I think Hamas already is demanding exactly this) really going to drop the Israeli-line and go for the One State Resolution that essentially honors UN 194?
It would be the end of Israel as we know it but then the Israeli decision to ethnic cleanse Palestine was the end of Israel as it was contemplated (and insisted upon by the UN with UN194 as a precondition for Israeli statehood)
I lived and worked in Micronesia for several years and know it fairly well - I was directly exposed to the US foreign aid expenditures to Micronesia as part of certain governmental agencies working for Micronesia's basic needs
Micronesia was part of old Trust Territories of the Pacific as 'administered' (given foreign aid, defended, etc) by the US until forming the 'Federated States of Micronesia' in relatively recent times.
Once they became the 'FSM' they got a very valuable UN vote that the US could direct any way they wanted. That must have caught the attention of the Israeli Lobby
Their whole government, health care system, telecom system etc is run ENTIRELY on US foreign aid. Nearly the entire GNP is US foreign aid.
The big mystery of the Pro-Apartheid Micronesian is this ...
The US just tells Micronesia 'vote the lockstep US-line on Israel' or no more 'Micronesian government buildings, salaries of the often corrupt elected public officials, hospitals, roads, plane flights, etc, etc '.
It's put up or get shut out-time
A subsistence lifestyle is still practiced by many people (some of the islands are 'high islands' with plenty of farming and fish and are really self-sufficient paradises) , the thousands of islands are beautiful, and there are a number of different distinct languages and customs. But the average Micronesian knows nothing little of the US, let alone Israel ,and even less about Palestine or it's struggles.
It's a bought vote - bought by the US for Israel. This is Israel's 'big friend' besides the US
Sickening....
What Obama should have said in his speech;
1 – ‘The Israeli Lobby’/AIPAC is hereby outlawed, as an agency of a foreign government that has usurped control of the American government from the electoral process itself to our freedom to formulate and control our own foreign policies
2 -- Any political contributions to political campaigns through agencies of Israel will be as illegal as contributions from China, Iran or Pakistan
3 -- Immediate cessation of our dangerously Pro-Israel policies around the ME– those supporting Israeli Apartheid itself as well as supporting Arab dictators then enlisted to support Israeli Apartheid. Previous policies generated by the Israeli Lobby/Neocons are null and void
4- That I intend to teach the American people about why 911 really happened - using the information drawn from the 9/11 commission, the Iraq Study Group, OBL and KSM themselves, as well as our intelligence services – namely that is because of our very dangerous and illegal Pro-Israel policies drawn up by the Israeli Lobby that we were attacked on 911 in the first place
5- Having set us up for 911 by the policies created by the Lobby – the Israeli Lobby then immediately coordinated with Israel to launch a ‘War Against Terror’ that was actually a generalized world war for Israel against Islam. The Israeli Lobby-generated ‘Clean Break Plan' merging seamlessly with our ‘Global War on Terror Plan’ – the authors of both being the same people in Israeli Lobby
6-- Finally – there will be no American war on Iran for Israel
We are owned by Israel - and our foreign policy first passes thru a very special filter, as Ambassador Shapiro explains so clearly
US Ambassador: Support for Israel Drives All US Mideast Policies
In a recent speech before the Jewish People Policy Institute (JPPI), Ambassador Daniel Shapiro clarified what drives US policies: "The test of every policy the Administration develops in the Middle East is whether it is consistent with the goal of ensuring Israel’s future as a secure, Jewish, democratic state. That is a commitment that runs as a common thread through our entire government."
Shapiro continued: "The test of our policy – that it advances Israel’s status as a secure, Jewish, democratic state – also explains our commitment to vigorously battle against those who would attempt to isolate or delegitimize Israel in the international community."
link to www.antiwar.com
Forcing the US to Veto the Palestinian state at the UN Sec Co is an important step in further uncovering and exposing the Israeli Lobby in the US to worldwide approbation and derision.
Mearsheimer and Chas Freeman both have been eloquent on this point - the US must be fully discredited and removed from any control over Palestine's fate - 'forcing' the US Vetoat the UN is a crucial part of making the US irrelevant and forging a means where Palestine can protect itself from Israel long-term, by means of the ICC, UN, the EU, and other international agencies
The Palestinians must buck the attempts by the US and some of their US supporters in the EU (Germany and France amongst others) to try to intimidate the Palestinians into not forcing the US vote (and to just avoid the Sec Co and go straight to the General Assembly).
It’s worth the EU being twisted up and not speaking as a unified voice, it's worth the Palestinians losing a couple of votes there – who cares ? – the long term strategic gains are far larger
Since the US is threatening and continuing to threaten - the US Veto must be forced – it’s very important.
The US Veto will make it a object of ridicule around the world – and thereby more fully expose the Israeli Lobby in the US.
The US veto is needed to further invalidate the US and make the Israeli Lobby all that more irrelevant and impotent.
And that is very important as Palestine is fighting the tagteam of both Israel and her Israeli Lobby in the US as it seeks to end Israeli Apartheid.
J-Street was created to spike BDS - end of story
J-Street is the good cop - AIPAC the bad cop. Two sides of the same Israeli Lobby coin
Can we please start doing this in the US with Israeli Lobby members in the US foreign policy establishment - starting from Hillary and Dennis Ross and working down?
France just 'summarily fired' their Mideast Envoy for mouthing Hillary Clinton-esque platitudes designed to destroy Palestine
Valerie Hoffenberg, the outspoken French foreign ministry special envoy to the Middle East, was summarily sacked over the weekend - because, she claims, of her opposition to the expected Palestinian unilateral declaration of statehood later this month.
"rench Mideast envoy was fired for opposing Palestinian UN bid
Valerie Hoffenberg says while she is in favor of the creation of a Palestinian state, she continues to believe that the only way to do achieve this is 'through bilateral negotiations.'
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Hoffenberg added that while she is in favor of the creation of a Palestinian state, she continues to believe that the only way to do achieve this is "through bilateral negotiations." = that's Pure Hillary, Pure Israeli Lobby in the US
"Hoffenberg, who is Jewish and a political ally of President Nicolas Sarkozy, has held several positions in his party and was made special envoy to the region in 2008. In that capacity she helped cultivate financial, educational and cultural ties between Israelis, Palestinians and residents of neighboring countries."
link to haaretz.com
How is it possible for illegal Israeli construction to be up 660% in the West Bank and not only does the US continue emphatically state it will Veto the Palestinian state later this month - but does not even any kind of public concern over this towards Israel whatsoever?
What a complete joke. The US has greased the wheels for Israeli ethnic cleansing decades. The setting up of the Israeli Apartheid state was done aided, abetted, and done under the cover of America
So let me get this straight - in the last 12 hours we've learned several fresh new lessons of how the Israelis think about themselves and what they think of their future
We've learned thru a fresh Wikileaks exposure yesterday of Israeli documents that the main reason Israel has been so obviously desperate to stop the Palestinian state was because of the ICC - because Israel itself thinks Apartheid is going to lose at the ICC and the Palestinians will be successful in their suits against Israel. Stunning - Apartheid sued into oblivion, and this is what the Israelis are expecting to be the outcome.
That Turkish victims of the Gaza Flotilla attacks suing Israel at the ICC are forecasted to be successful in winning their suits against Israel as well - and once again, that's the Israelis call on their prospects. And too late to settle out of court because Netanyahu (on record) thinks that settling out of court would be 'demoralizing to the national consciousn¬ess' and cause widespread depression.
The take home lesson is how dependent Israel has been on using it's internatio¬nal leverage thru the Israeli Lobby in the US to sabotage the UN, the ICC, and any other international recourse for victims of Israeli Apartheid. And that dependency is now fully exposed to international law Amazing
Absolutely amazing - the Israeli defense of Apartheid is in tatters and the Israelis are on record as saying they know it
"Mr Duncan's apparent disregard for Israel's legitimate security concerns is of great concern."
Mr Duncan apparently has disregard for Isarel's ILLEGITIMATE security concerns. Israel thinks it can illegally occuply Palestine then somehow feign victimhood to try to defend it's ethnic cleansing.
If anybody knows a person (rather than a state) who behaved like this they would probably think they needed to be institutionalized in a facility for the sociopathically insane
A clear and strong endorsement of Palestine...
When have we ever heard the US do something similar over the last 30 years?
Very good news
Really inspiring...
The CIA supply of Stinger missiles to the Mujahideen was apparently of major significance if not dispositive in causing the Russian debacle in Afghanistan.
A fraction of those number of anti-aircraft missles in the hands of the Taliban would probably end the war in months for casuality-adverse Americans.
Americans not only love to fly around in their helicopters and jets they absolutely need to in Afghanistan - can anyone imagine we would stay there at our leisure if an American aircraft was going down on a weekly basis?
Same thing if the Palestinians ever get a hold of anti-aircraft missiles with which to defend themselves from Israeli overflights.
I still can't believe the Lebanese have not been able to buy enough anti-aircraft missiles to deny the Israelis the airspace - I think it's most likely because the US simply hasn't been selling them any despite other American military aid over the last decade. No doubt at the demand of Israel.
Things are changing and I doubt Israel will ever again enjoy the kind of impunity and air dominance with which she has been able to operate in the past.
Where is there any sign of condemnation from Hillary, Ross, and Obama of this latest Israeli move?
Ashton of the EU condemned it - what of the rest of the Quartet?
Absolutely breathtaking silence ...
'coexistance oriented effort'
The Israeli orientation to Palestinians and Palestine is one of such a dysfunctional psychological nature that it flagrantly embodies the fundamental dynamics of sadomasochism. That a little light is not blinking wildly while voluminously advocating for just such a relationship to continue speaks volumes
'Coexistence' with a sadomasochist is certainly possible - the world is full of such horrific relationships - but certainly coexistence within such a sick arrangement is by no means a healthy relationship . The sadist in the relationship may be comfortable with it as it 'meets his needs' - the one whom the sadist wants to control and punish - not so much.
Israel wants Palestine to live quietly in a jar of formaldeyde up on a shelf and for all purposes dead - while the 'start-up' nation cheerfully goes about it's business. That's not coexistence - that's just one of the more peculiar circles of hell.
The only healthy relationship with a sadomasochist is ending the relationship. One of the healthiest ways this particular relationship can be ended is by prosecution of Israeli criminal activity - such as redress of the ongoing Israeli violations of all UN Resolutions, International Law, and Geneva Conventions Israeli is currently violating.
That the Palestinians quislings cooperating with Israel have been pushed out of the way sufficiently to allow Palestine to escape this mascochistic relationship with Israel is the best thing that Palestine has ever done
September cannot come soon enough and Apartheid Israel cannot go down the road Apartheid South Africa has already traveled soon enough either
Putting aside all the ink that Geller is squirting out to provide herself some minim of hypothetical plausible deniability - Breivik was just her kind of man
Israel and her Israeli Lobby are very annoyed that their anti-jihadist clown parade has had some very icy water thrown on it
Geller and rest of the Israeli Lobby are terrorists - the war on Iraq was a war of terror for Israel and the coming war against Iran will be a war of terror for Israel unless we can avert it
Too the Office of Homeland Security can't seek a warrant and seize Geller's computer - but then again this made for Israel office probably still has it's hands full trying to bust Alice Walker and the rest of the last Flotilla to Gaza
It's pretty clear to my mind that Breivik was attacking the AUF as a Pro-Palestinian organization, amongst other things. I think it takes almost a significant willfulness to not understand it as such
Given his 'Israeli Settler Philosophy' and admiration of Anti-Arab Zionism as a whole - down to a fairly sophisticated view of Avigdor Lieberman Yisrael Beitenu Party - isn't it pretty darn likely that this attack can be seen as an attack on liberal Pro-Palestinian advocacy?
I think it's entirely possible that the reason he choose the AUF was precisely for this reason.
This guy just basically enacted the same kind of Anti-Palestinian rhetoric we hear 24/7 from Israel, her Neocons, AIPAC and the rest of the Israel Lobby
Pam Geller is Caroline Glick with more lipstick - two peas in a pod
great article, Max
This Anti-Arab Zionist terror is actually 'Israeli Settler Philosophy' - as perfected and pushed by the likes of Avigdor Lieberman, Netanyahu and the Israeli Lobby in the US.
Israeli Settler Philosophy is now the main political force in the Israel of today - though it has also been underlying driving force for the decades it has taken to set up the modern Israeli Apartheid state as well
The Israeli Lobby has successfully saturated the US with this message and mindset- they have the whole US congress primed to jump up and sieg heil Netanyahu and this 'Israeli Settler Philosophy'
It's just gotten a whole lot clearer since Breivik pulled it all out of the shadows and into the sunlight before the Israeli Lobby could obscure it. If there is something positive to come out of this massacre I wish it to be the part of the beginning of the end of this Anti-Arab Zio-terrorism
Israel and psychopaths such as Glick are so desperate they just are betting the farm that they will be able to scam their way thru the Apartheid One State and come out ahead. They've Ponzi-schemed their way down the road for 63 years years and it's paid off bigtime - why not go for another round? They've nothing to lose
Israel will attempt to brazen out Apartheid for another 10 yrs - with the full faith and credit of the US government (as ginned up by the Israeli Lobby) operating to keep her afloat
Israel is stuck, out of options, and there is 'no going back'. Israel cannot strategically afford to lose Occupied Palestine. She's going down with the ship because there is no other way for her to go.
The fight is over Israel's ability - with the support of the Israeli Lobby in the US - to pull off Apartheid.
The whole 63 yr old Israeli scam is to come to exactly this one conclusion - it's too late for the Palestinians to exercise Right of Return
The whole fraud encapsulated in one crystal clear formulation -
That they brazened it out past all UN Resolutions, all International Law, and the Geneva Conventions - such that the theft can be forever sanctioned and buried as 'legitimate enough' for them to keep what they have ethnically cleansed
I think Zonszein really uncovered the core truth of the anti-boycott law
- this is all about the push for consolidation of the Israeli Apartheid position prior to the September Declaration of the Palestinian state.
The violation of freedom of expression aspect is the sideshow compared to this final push for the 'One Apartheid State' that this represents.
Israel has pulled out all the stops - this is the Lieberman wet dream.
Brilliant article
Bronner is one of the important handmaidens of Israeli Apartheid
The calculated hasbara he feeds America, via the NYT, is nothing less than what I consider evil. Evil not in any kind of religious sense - but rather evil in a sociopathic and manipulative sense - he knows exactly what he hopes to accomplish in what he's doing
The sum total of his works are simply opportunities lost, time and space wasted
I like your the usage of your 'cafe-tilla' term - can everything now done internationally to end Israeli Apartheid polices now have a 'tilla appended to the it?
- just like every American scandal involving government coverup after Watergate has had a 'gate' appended to it?
Your use of the term was pleasing to me and I think it helps conceptually to consider/group all these actions as '-tillas' and expands the creative possiblities of how protest againsts Apartheid can be waged
I know it sounds a little corny but I still really like it
I really enjoyed the chance to hear Philip on Antiwar.com radio with Scott Horton regarding the Flotilla and 'All Things I/P Considered' - it was terrific.
There's a couple minutes on the difficulties fundraising in these difficult times - Antiwar.com has been scraping along just barely making it's payroll as well apparently.
link to antiwar.com
beautiful -
Israel is all about control - a sadistic control-freak state and hopefully continues to unravel one little thread at a time. The Flotilla is really showing smarts and pulling on these threads - they make me so proud as an American
An America unbought by and free of the Israel Lobby will be an America at the very beginning of a very long trek back to a nation I can really be proud of
I just wish there were a legal means of redress for the criminals in our Congress who have collaborated with Israel over the last decades and have now upped the ante to the point of abdication.
If Netanyahu wasn't born in Tel Aviv why would n't he just run for President of the Republican party at this point? - or as a Democrat -- or perhaps the 'New Israel Party'?
Obama's unwillingness to prosecute the Neocons in the Bush administration is part of the whole dysfunctional hunger for Israeli Lobby donations and a historical diaster for America. Since the Israeli Lobby = the Neocons we have no help from the Democratic Party whatsoever.
Hillary is a worse 'Neocon' than McCain and Obama is chopped liver as far as fulfilling his real duty to destroy the Israeli Lobby/Neocon domination of US foreign policy. I certainly will never vote for Obama again, let alone a Hillary. An American patriot would certainly act to address and destroy the greatest threat to America - but that was too much to expect of Obama and America in the early 2000's
As America is bought and sold down the river by the Lobby I honestly have trouble barely seeing even a glimmer of light for the future. I thank the Flotilla for fighting the good fight even though it often seems to be a lost cause
If we escape the Israeli/Israeli Lobby machinations toward Iran I will consider that as much of a victory as I can hope for at this point
Why not just retask the Flotilla?
Why just not add the freshly passed UN Resolution/Declaration of the Palestinian state to the manifest and plan to hit Gaza in late Sept?
Why not just hang loose in Crete or sail around the Med drumming up further support? Ports of Call in France, Italy, - as well as all Arab Spring destinations such as Alexandria, Tunisia, Tangiers, Beirut as well as Turkey and of course all international waters?
That could be an outrageous neverending party - and make the continued Israeli efforts to keep sabotaging them an absolute IDF-Keystone Kops laughingstock operation
Just never stop ... make it an permanent threat against Apartheid - a five or ten year party and every once in a while a ship can make a dash for Gaza. Get seasonal reinforcements from all over the world - instead of going to Israeli summer camp - Israelis of conscience can just join the 'Perpetual Anti-Apartheid Cruise'
The possibilities are enchanting! Time to get creative Flotilla-istas!
Always the same Israeli 'lawyer's trick' these days - Ackerman precisely captures the essence of the exact and authentic argument against Israeli Apartheid - and then goes on to demonize that and argue vehemently that that is anti-semitic.
It is legal marshal arts a la Dershowitz - they immediately 'accept' the anticipated rational outcome but then neatly flip this 'case against Israel' into part of the 'Case for Israel'
'The Palestinian plan … for statehood [in] the UN … could be devastating. Israel could be exposed to sanctions and pressures"
Damn straight.
It's a brilliant or stupid legal strategy - depending upon Israel's realpolitik power to swing the argument - which with the help of Ackerman and the rest of the Israeli Lobby and the Sieg Heil-ing US Congress, has been formidable enough to carry the day for decades
If Ackerman and Israel succeed - they have essentially delegitimized the main strength of their opponent's legal and moral argument. If the fail ... well hell, Israel is already an illegal state, how much worse could it get?
The point is... Israel IS an illegitimate state as far as all Israeli settlements in Palestine and it's Apartheid policies - if they (Ackerman and the Israelis) succeed in delegitimizing that argument then PRESTO Israel can continue to argue it is 'legitimate'
These are the desperate arguments of desperate sociopaths
Priceless
We love you, Max
“You can pass whatever you want to Gaza through normal channels.”
If Israel doesn't hasn't found your tunnel/channel yet, that is - if it has expect to be bombed by a F 16 and buried alive
OT -
Can one of you guys bump this to Phil -- fascinating!
I don't know how to do that
Thanks, Ginger
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Haaretz exclusive: Secret cables show Israel's battle plan over Palestinian UN bid
Foreign Ministry documents outline instructions to envoys to thwart international recognition of Palestinian state.
link to haaretz.com
good work guys - some of the funniest ripostes to Palin I have heard yet ... haha. Starting the day with several good laughs - I'm loving my coffee this morning at Mondoweiss -
“every time Sarah speaks we all feel smarter” - I added “some men feel harder”
"she has always been a bimbo.. wearing the star of david is just confirmation of her evangelical bimbo status…"
"She hits 2 birds with one star of David"
great video - 'social disobedience' of this nature is what Israel fears the most
Give the Senate another napkin to sign for Israel - who cares - like the Israelis themselves, the US is making itself irrelevant to Palestine
great job you guys!
"The only alternative to a binational state that these fools are creating is the apartheid state of the West Bank" - good post
That part of the hard Israeli right that is currently in favor of the binational state (because they think it will prevent evacuation of settlements) really just sees the 'binational state' as Eretz Israel - with Israel in control of everything.
Netanyahu might be finally realizing that he has to get on the binational bandwagon with the hard right fanatics (with outward shows of great reluctance) because it is the only game in town.
Israel is completely stuck strategically - it cannot evacuate settlers without civil war - it must go into a binational situation and just try to make it as 'cheesy' as it can in terms of being beneficial to Israel - with continued or even enhanced Israeli domination.
The fanatic right in support of the binational state think of the binational state as really only a different way of skinning the cat to get to Greater Israel and are certain they will be able to rig and control full Israel control over a racist and unequal Greater Israel.
In essence their response to Apartheid is 'bring it on' - they are so sure they will be able to dominate the Palestinian fraction that they will get their control of the entirety of Greater Israel, keep all settlements in intact, prevent Palestinian Right of Return, and cross any other bridges they need to cross 'down the line'.
This just makes me sick - these guys are just so embarrassing
The Israeli Lobby has so throughly succeeded in framing America into an Islamic-extremism mentality that it qualifies as brainwashing. Not that it took much detergent to brainwash these morons
The racism and psy-ops campaign that the full spectrum of Israeli, Israeli intelligence, Neocon, and Israeli Lobby have been running against America is going to take such a massive upheaval to overthrow. America is Israel's cheap fiddle
I would really like to see the new Egyptian foreign policy vigorously acting in open support of full Palestinian rights down to the letter of every UN Resolution that Israel is currently violating, the Geneva Conventions and all International Law.
It would be great to see an Egypt that is insisting of every protection due the Palestinians be rigorously pursued - Palestine will certainly benefit from a neighbor who is a champion rather than a saboteur
Instead of being a force for appeasing, aiding and abetting Israeli crimes in Palestine - let's hope that new Egypt becomes the one of the foremost defenders of Palestinian rights in the Middle East
Another benefit from a new Egypt freed from the American-Israeli puppet show it was starring in is the near impossibility this creates for an Israeli-Neocon attack on Iran. The new Egypt is just such good news
The Neocons described their grand strategy for the Middle East" thusly: “Iraq is the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot, Egypt the prize.”
Well Egypt has been lost and with it the Neocon/Israeli 'Clean Break Plan'
Chris Matthew's pretense at willlful ignorance and avoidance of helping America connect the dots with the Israel Lobby, Neocons, and their agenda makes him more an enabler of the Israel Lobby than a critical observer or someone helpful for the education and enlightenment of the public.
As such his opinion show is just space occupying-, enabling, and part of the problem rather being part of the solution. His crime is a the crime of ommission and coverup - essential services to the Israel Lobby. Matthews helps sustain the media culture of fear and intimidation that we in turn see Rachel Maddow and so many others succumb to.
So many times I have seen Mathhews come up to the line, look over it, and as if hit by a bolt of electricity shy away like someone who just saw a coiled up rattlesnake rattling at his lucrative future. A perfect success story for Israeli Lobby intimidation.
Why not start a jihad about the current Israeli Lobby/Neocon plans trying to gin up a war with Iran? - we know he's lazy but he won't even have to write a new script describing it since the Neocons are using the same one they used for Iraq
"Zero nuclear weapons, simply the possibility that he intended at some point to do that and then to find out that the director of intelligence is basically saying all the evidence they had is imprecise"
No Chris - we aren't 'all Neocons now' and some of us never were.
David Sanger of the NYTimes is a full-time Israeli-hasbara-ist and bends, twists, and warps any news to a pro-Israel, pro-attack Iran agenda
It's just pitiful that so many Americans rely on the NYTimes - 'the Judith Miller Institute for Neocon-propaganda'. They have no shame even with having led the Neocon lies about Iraq and helping lie America into that war for Israel
Hillary reminds me of Madeline Albright except more diabolical and conniving - she's a Neocon thru and thru.
She's must coordinate with Netanyahu daily - these days you can usually hear Clinton repeating Neocon talking points that same day if not the day before the rest of them start trotting them out
Pepe Escobar has an excellent article on this today in the AsianTimes - in it (see excerpt) he is saying that the youth groups are demanding Suleiman step down as well.
link to atimes.com
"The youth groups central to the revolution go way beyond. They want; the resignation of the entire NDP, including Suleiman; a broad-based transitional government appointed by a 14-strong committee, made up of senior judges, youth leaders and members of the military; the election of a council of 40 public intellectuals and constitutional experts who will draw up a new constitution under the supervision of the transitional government, then put it to the people in a referendum; fresh local and national elections; the end of emergency law; the dismantling of the whole state security apparatus; and the trial of top regime leaders, including Mubarak. "
Maher's religion is his mama Israel - he's just not bright enough to know it.
Progressive except Palestine/Islam
I would think Saudi Arabia would be loathe to have both Ben Alie and Mubarak ending up in Saudi Arabia at the same time.
Jeddah - the new haven for ex-dictators?
Why are Americans afraid?
Because of the decades long hasbara of the Israel Lobby and Neocons to manufacture such consent
Then - to make sure gin up a few wars so Americans get as used to killing Arabs as Israelis kill Palestinians
It's so immensely sickening
So we finally see that George Mitchell - the earnest 'honest broker' amongst the de facto Israel Lobbyists Hilllary Clinton and Dennis Ross - is a snake just like the rest in the snakepit of the Obama administration.
The degree of this corruption in American foreign policy is on the level of the Mafia
This statement by Meir Dagan is as important in destroying the largely successful Neocon/Israeli drive to war against Iran as the 2007 NIE that stopped Cheney and the Neocons in their tracks before they could pull the trigger on Iran in spring 2008
This is some of the most imporant news over the last decade in derailing the Neocon/Israeli 'Clean Break' plan - it's a freezing cold shower aimed at the family jewels of William Kristol and all the other 'real mensch' who want to go to Tehran
Hillary Clinton, Netanyahu, and Debkafile are all out doing as much damage control as they can - they are all on the same page with this - but Israeli/Neocon aggression against Iran has just been dealt a tsunami size below - it's equivalent to an ISRAELI '2007 NIE on IRAN'
Overcoming this will be next to impossible if "I" can help it
This is the biggest news in years -
Israel is exposed to halogen-lit glare without a figleaf now
PERFECT!
I love this story and this article -
It is the most beautiful civil disobedience that I can imagine
One corollary is for Israelis to end their ethnic cleansing and never let another 'settler' across the checkpoints on the way to a Free Palestine - ever again
In order to swindle the Palestinians and Arab League to even show up for another round of this Dennis Ross/Israel Lobby manipulated charade - back in May the US was forced to cough up a written document promising to assign blame for failure of these talks
So now the world has seen Israelis fail - epically fail - at these talks and continue to build settlements in occupied Palestine, with impunity and a 3rd finger salute, despite all efforts by international community, the US, and the Palestinians to stop them
So where is the promised announcement assigning blame to Israel?
Here's the article promising blame Israel if Israel destroys these talks... so where's the blame for Israel in BIG BOLD FONT in the NYTimes, Washington Post, and Fox News? - Hillary? Obama? Dennis Ross?
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Exclusive: U.S. vows to assign blame if Israel-PA talks fail
U.S. emphasizes goal of a viable, independent and sovereign Palestinian state in a document sent to PA.
By Akiva Eldar
The United States government has committed to playing a role in indirect talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, and promised that if the talks were to fail, the U.S. will assign blame and take action, according to a document sent by the U.S. to the Palestinian Authority, which Haaretz obtained on Friday.
link to haaretz.com
I'm surprised that intentional acts of arson directed against Israel itself - though I haven't seen any reporting of this incidence being arson - doesn't happen more regularly.
Fire is a poor man's weapon
The Israel Lobby, like Israel itself, operates using well known sadomasochistic principles
1- Israel commits a crime against Palestinians (for example, via the Irgun and the Stern gang, for example, and the hallowed Israeli War of Independence)
2- Then, as the Palestinians react, Israel uses that normal reaction as a reason to punish them
3- Then use any further resistance as a rationale to continue punishing them. For decades. Now, today
4- Lie through your teeth in defense of any part of that, as necessary
This is a transparent - an open Israeli sadomasochistic technique in attempt to disguise the obvious
It's really basically a modified Ponzi scheme - Israel has just tried to parlay their 'punishment' of hte orignal sin of ever resisting Israeli ethnic cleansing over and over again for decades
Israel is a house of cards built upon a Ponzi Scheme - which is why they can never give up Zionist ethnic cleansing in the settlements, because, as so many far-right Israeli commentators regular confess, where does it end if you stop settlement in Occupied Palestine?
The answer, of course, is 1948 at best, with full Palestinian Right of Return
Israel will go the way of Bernie Madoff
great article - than you Ms Abileah for your bravery at that Netanyahu conference
Shattering the “Israel barrier” is akin to breaking thru a deep level of collective denial that has been deliberately created by this tribe bent on the ethnic cleansing of Palestine
Thank you so much
Israel: the Land of the Settlers - it's even making Likud sick this morning.
Obama and Clinton even groveling before the fascist Israeli settlers that make even Likudniks hurl? - how low can they go?
// This has become 'the land of the settlers.'"
"They think we're working for them," another senior Likud person added. "They are rude, bloated with a sense of ownership. They are using us. They are wielding terror against the government." //
//Meanwhile, Netanyahu closeted himself with his advisers in the Prime Minister's Bureau and watched as the MKs and ministers gave in, one after the other, to the settlers' threats. "All we can do is bemoan our bitter fate," one Netanyahu confidant said. "Never before have we seen such insane pressure. It's simply intolerable.//
link to haaretz.com
Just as with medical care the aid organizations have their first obligation to their patients - not to worrying about offending Israelis who are causing the privations in the first place
a principled stand and great news
do any of the Mondoweiss folks know which occasion it was when the Palestinians linked hands all the way across the Occupied Territories? - I think they actually did it in the West Bank. I think it was about 3 or 4 years ago and there were photos that actually hit the mainstream news for a day
I've been trying to find reference to that for a while now but no luck so far - I think the photos from that event were incredibly powerful and devasatingly to Apartheid - but it disappeared off the radar awfully quickly - probably for exactly that reason
If anyone could help steer me to relocate the event or photos I would really appreciate it
Thanks
Ginger
Philip and others - the above link to the Wash Post 'One State' Bisharat article above is broken
here is an active link that will take you there
link to washingtonpost.com
great post, Colin
Right on! - yep the light came shining thru on this one
That's fine with me but the problem is there are kind of two kinds of Zionism – legal, sane Zionism and fascist ethnic cleansing-Zionism
The Judeofascist ‘Zionism' as practiced by Netanyahu, A. and J. Lieberman, Foxman and Krauthammer is indeed fascist - but the Judeofascist Lobby has already pretty much already successfully shot down identifying this kind of Zionism as racist or evil. In essence the Judeofascists have destroyed/diminished the ability to reference this kind of 'fascist zionism' as well, evil
If 'Zionism' means that Israel ought to exist at all (within legal borders) - I don't have a problem with that. But how do you distinguish that kind of 'internationally granted/acceptable non-ethnic cleansing legal Zionism' with the racist ethic cleansing advocated and practiced by Bibi and Krauthammer? There’s a rub for me
That's why I prefer the term 'Judeofacism'. I confess I also enjoy it because on a tertiary level it pokes fascist Neocons like William Kristol in the eye over their coining of the term 'Islamofacism' to justify their Israeli/Neocon warcrimes in the Middle East and providing ‘all-Muslim’ demonizing talking points to FOX news pundits like Krauthammer, and then the Judeofascist Neocons use that massively disseminated tag line to justify continuing Judeofascist crimes.
As we all know these bastards like Joe Lieberman actually fight for the term Islamofascism and bully politicians who don’t parrot that term – a term they use to ‘manufacture consent’ in the American public to set up their next ‘Clean Break Plan’ war on Iran
Shining in the darkness of this era of Judeofascism are American Jews like my family, Philip, Adam, Glen Greenwald, MJ Rosenberg, JVP, Michael Lerner, Richard Silverstein, Naomi Klein, Chomsky, Finkelstein, Emily Henochowicz, and all the others we see standing up. Then the many extraordinarily brave Israeli Jews such as Gideon Levy, Bradley Burston, Amira Haas, Uri Avnery and all the others we cherish
In my silent mind I think of these as ‘Jews of Conscience’ – the antithesis of the Judeofascists I despise so much
My preferred term is 'Judeofascist' rather than 'Israel0-fascist' - I think it more elegantly captures the concept.
For example:
William Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, and Abe Foxman are Judeofascists living on this side of the pond while Bibi Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are Judeofascists living on the other side of the pond
Afterall, we also need to also account for most of the Neocons and Israel Lobby in America, as well as the fascists in Israel.
The thing they have in common - other than being Israeli-Firsters - is Judeofascism
Originally I was as excited as many by J-Street - now I see it as little more than the spoonful of sugar that makes the Israeli cyanide go down
These guys are poison.
What did Bibi's papa tell him? - pay 2% now so you don't have to pay 100%? - that sums up J-Street for me - they are the 2% solution
Brilliant article - a beautiful description of the cognitive dissonance of being Israeli in the midst of Palestine
Krauthammer doesn't really give a damn about Muslims - the dominant factor is that he is so narcissitic that anything other than praise for Israel, Jews, or himself (he identifies with the first two so he can accept that) is anathema to his pitiful Gollum-sized psyche
Krauthammer doesn't really give a damn about Muslims because he sees that as anti-Krauthammer. Any sadism, vitriol, or belligerance is therefore justified or Chuck fears he will cease to exist
From my mouth to god's ear
my god Petaeus is a snake - Admiral Fallon was right - watching this little chickenshit try to worm his sleazy way out of any potentially/possible politically-damaging anti-semitic pushback just sickens me.
This little CYA-chickenshit deserves NONE of that vomited fruitsalad plastered all over his uniform - did he get half of those by brownnosing some NOTHING neocon-reporter like Boot too? - pathetic. He learned it somewhere else because he's good at it- he's practiced this kind of treason before
Do none of our admirals and generals have any balls? - oh yeah - it seems the ones that do have started resigning ever since the Neocons like Jackboot took control during the Bush-years-coup
And then the neocons pick from the ones left like Petraeus or McChyrstal or Odierno
We need an amendment to the Constitution prohibiting dictatorial control of our political process by whoever has the most cash. It's just so disgusting
The cowards who have pandered to it should be hounded down thru the centuries
right - star studded-lineup of contributors -
I really think the Gaza Flotialla has catalyzed the end of Israeli occupation of Palestine - the Gaza Flotilla is written in the pages of HISTORY
Israel is at existential crisis - it hardly matters which enemy she chooses to strike out at now - Palestinians, Iranians, Turks - the object of her hatred is no longer the point. Israel is cornered, dangerous, and half-realizes that the monster she hates is herself.
She seeks to lash out to avoid the truth she is facing - that the diaster of her occupation of Palestine is at the end of it's rope, and that her cherished role of hegemon of the Middle East - able to attack and bully at will - has come to an end
It is the end of an era for Israel - the end of occupied Palestine and the end of the Israeli/Neocon 'Long War against Islam'
Having Gaza taken out of Israeli hands was the breaking point for her - FreeGaza was the catalyst
I know - those remarks are as bloodthirsty as Netanyahu - the Israelis are double-checkmated and spoiling for a fight with Iran to reset the board
I think the breaking of the Gaza siege was the straw that breaks Israel's back - she is facing both the unparalled strategic loss of Occupied Palestine as well as the loss of her hegemony in the Middle East if she cannot batter down Iran.
Once Israel comes under worldwide pressure to be forced to join the NPT/Middle East Nuclear Free Zone (after Iran already has joined/or greenlighted joining in 2012) all further rationales for preserving her Middle East hegemony by starting a war with Iran are 'off the table'). If she does move against Iran (and involve the US) in WW3 against Iran she is strategically 'done'
I'm so scared this Israeli attack is really going to happen in the next couple of months if not the next couple of weeks - these special fleet movements are very ominous
The Iranian humanitarian ship to Gaza is in the Red Sea now - well guess what also just entered the Red Sea?
Israeli/Egyptian papers are reporting the American Fleet and an Israeli warship have just crossed the Suez Canal Friday and are now in the Red Sea – apparently desperate and no longer trying to disguise their coordination on the prosecution of their ‘War against Islam for Israel’
Retired Egyptian General Amin Radi, chairman of the national security affairs committee, told the paper that "the decision to declare war on Iran is not easy, and Israel, due to its wild nature, may start a war just to remain the sole nuclear power in the region.
link to ynetnews.com
link to haaretz.com
The US Army Core of Engineers need immediate redeployment from the Rafah crossing into Gaza from Egypt (where they were building a huge steel underground tunnel barrier to hermetically seal off Israel's concentration camp) to the port of Gaza to immediately upgrade the port facilities to accomodate the 'Gaza Sealift' armadas on the way.
The Gaza port needs immediate upgrades to handle the 100's of vessels that are creating the 21st Century's remix of the 'Berlin Airlift' to save the Gazans from their tormentors
The world has turned - and quickly. It is time to protect the Palestinians from the Israelis.
The UN should never have permitted the Israelis to hold it's hands around the neck of Palestine for all of these years - it's time to take Palestine out of the hands of the mad Israelis
As soon as we rescue Gaza - we move to the West Bank to liberate the camps and villages of Palestinians there, then on to E Jerusalem
This is amazing - this is why having someone like Senator Joe Lieberman as head of the Homeland Security Dept is so dangerous. As reported 'Aipac-Joe' has already turned the Homeland Security Dept loose of the Americans belonging to FreeGaza - because they are 'aiding' Hamas.
It's just so disgusting - Neocons like Lieberman get Hamas declared a terrorist organization and then come after Americans to protect his precious Israelis.
The whole fascist police stateewe have been forced to set up to protect Israeli/Neocon crimes across our planet is now getting tuned-up to go after Americans who are not sufficiently Pro-Israel
This is unbelievable
This is it - here's the smoking gun and it's gameover for Israel's apologists - Israel will or will not be attempting to explain this to an international inquistion.
Must be seen to be believed - Israel is toast
link to richardsilverstein.com
Israel has two options - both of which are disastrous for her. That an international investigation is going forward with or without her is not one her options
1- Refuse participation in an international investigation - as she did with Goldstone. Many in Israel (even rightwing) have called this a great strategic blunder ever since
2- Participate in an international investigation and accept the consquences. If it it shown that she has commited an act of terror then the Israeli occupation of Palestine will start to fall like the house of cards it is
The Israeli hasbara/propaganda campaign just took a fatal blow - the Israeli Naval Officer Reserves just called upon Netanyahy to:
1- conduct and international investigation
2- halt the campaign to blame the incident on the civilans onboard the Gaza Relief flotilla
Currently reported in Haaretz