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  • Israel advocates are in a battle with US media
  • Statement: Legal experts and human rights defenders demand international community end Israel's collective punishment of Gaza
    • "Moreover, we denounce the shameful political pressures exerted by several UN Member States and the UN on President Mahmoud Abbas, to discourage recourse to the International Criminal Court (ICC)," "Political pressures" Israeli General Mandelblit said "it would be an act of war to take us to the ICC" link to What"the West" want is a selective use of International Law, they are in effect saying, there is no law, or only law which we, the powerful nations and the arbitrators of what is right and wrong, and solely dependent on who we, at any one time are friends of. I say to that, Go F--- Yourselves.

    • In my opinion the Palestinians are entitled to strike Israeli targets as a reprisal for the deliberate targeting of civilians by the IDF in Gaza. Look at it this way if you were a boxer under the Marquis of Queensbury rules and your opponent immediately kicked you between the legs, you go down and your opponent immediately starts kicking and stomping you in the head with intent to kill you. You would be entitled to lash out with your feet [although that in itself would be against the rules] but that lashing out would be to say to the person trying to kill you, stop, that was a warning that what you are doing is wrong and if you persist in trying to kill me I will have no alternative but to resist as I have done so. That's logical.And in my opinion well within International law.

    • " We also condemn the launch of rockets from the Gaza Strip, as every indiscriminate attack against civilians, regardless of the identity of the perpetrators, is not only illegal under international law but also morally intolerable." But are these rocket attacks by Hamas illegal under International law?
      Reprisals refer to acts which are illegal if taken alone, but become legal when adopted by one state in retaliation for the commission of an earlier illegal act by another state.[2] Counter-reprisals are generally not allowed.
      An example of reprisal before reprisals could be legally undertaken, a number of conditions had to be satisfied:
      • There had to be a previous act by the other party that violated international law.
      • Reprisals had to be preceded by an unsatisfied demand for reparation or compliance with the violated international law.
      • There must be proportionality between the offence and reprisal.
      The following is from an article on Professor Norman Finkelsteins blog link to
      "HRW’s Deputy Middle East and North Africa director stated in the first press release. “All attacks, including reprisal attacks, that target or indiscriminately harm civilians are prohibited under the laws of war, period.” Not so. International law does not—at any rate, not yet—prohibit belligerent reprisals.[4]The United States and Britain, among others, have staunchly defended the right of a state to use nuclear weapons by way of belligerent reprisal.[5] By this standard, the people of Gaza surely have the right to use makeshift projectiles to end an illegal, merciless seven-year-long Israeli blockade or to end Israel’s criminal bombardment of Gaza’s civilian population. Indeed, in its landmark 1996 advisory opinion on the legality of nuclear weapons, the ICJ ruled that international law is not settled on the right of a state to use nuclear weapons when its “survival” is at stake. But, if a state might have the right to use nuclear weapons when its survival is at stake, then surely a people struggling for self-determination has the right to use makeshift projectiles when it has been subjected to slow death by a protracted blockade and recurrent massacres by a state determined to maintain its occupation".

  • Photos: Across the U.S., thousands continue to march in solidarity with Gaza
  • How many would be alive today if Obama had not quashed Goldstone Report?
    • Hostage @ "Even with a Security Council referral in hand", I was surprised at Ashrawi the other day who said, there were other avenues to the ICC i.e through the Human Rights Council, Unfortunately the Council recommended the Goldstone Report go to the UNSC who could then refer it to the ICC, does anyone in their right mind think the US would refer ANY war crimes committed by Israel to the ICC. It beggars belief that when her leader, Abbas, has such a low opinion of the use of the courts, [he said recently.. “I don’t like to go to the courts. I don’t like courts. I want to solve my problems directly between the parties”] she could expect Obama to refer Israel to the ICC, NO CHANCE.

  • Kerry is off the Israel bandwagon
    • seafoid, @" and would embark as soon as it got the necessary permissions". Which of course it will not receive. After listening to advice from the US.

  • In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza (Updated)
    • Citizen, "Why don’t they do it? I really have no clue. Advice?" It would appear Abbas has made some sort of commitment to US/Israel, what it is, is any ones guess, but typical of the high handed Abbas.
      Erekat to Abbas.... “Abu Mazen [Abbas], if you want to move Netanyahu, work on the [application] documents for international institutions. He said: I made a commitment’ [not to apply to international institutions]. What commitment have you made? This isn’t your daddy’s farm! This is a nation, this is Palestine. This is bigger than individuals. He didn’t listen to me. link to

    • Taxi "Hamas got their drone technology from studying remote-controlled toy airplanes." What's to laugh at, James Stewart flew a reconstructed plane out of the desert in 'Flight of the Phoenix' the plane was designed by Hardy Krugar drawing on his expertise as a designer of 'toy aeroplanes'.
      Seriously, 700 rockets blowing up the desert is not a good military tactic. One man with a small mortar inside the belly of the beast, could do more economic damage to the Zionist project in 1 minute. Hezbollah have undersea capabilities which they have said could target military and commercial shipping and cripple Israeli trade 90% of which is transported by sea. In world war two the Italians specialized in one man undersea craft, they sank several battle ships with them. With today's technology these devices are virtually undetectable and very cheap. Even their nuclear [German supplied submarines would be vulnerable as they left port in Haifa] I'm sure Hez [20 miles away have figured that out.

    • I partly agree with you, my argument is about tactics, if I had a severe traffic altercation with Mike Tyson I would be tempted to punch him in the face, if I did so I would be plastered. Better to follow him home, creep up the stairs while he is asleep and fetch a baseball bat to him, as you are leaving set fire to his car, and then deny all knowledge of the incident. Stones against tanks are futile, and will get you killed. The Palestinians need unity and well thought out tactics, political, legal and other forms of resistance.

    • Abbas has finally done something sensible, asking the UN for protection for the Palestinian people against the war crimes of Israel, and according to Hanan Ashrawi plans to apply to join 20 UN Agencies shortly. There are approx 60 Agencies so maybe 20 is a reasonable start, no mention of joining the ICC of course, the one court the US/Israel are fearful of, and in theory cannot control. Abbas, just do it, link to

    • One important thing has come out of this Gaza aggression is that Netanyahu has claimed the latest Gaza conflict proved that Israel could never allow an independent Palestine in the occupied West Bank, insisting it would simply become “another 20 Gazas.”
      “I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan,” Netanyahu link to So there we have it from the horses mouth, occupation is to be never ending, this is the Jabotinski end game "The land of Israel" including the West Bank is the sovereign territory of the Israeli state and it is not possible for two separate sovereign states to exist in the "Land of Israel" when we [Zionists] claim sovereignty over the whole. Fortunately Abbas has lost a negotiating partner [he admitted this a couple of days ago,] how is it now possible for anybody,with a straight face, the quartet, the UN, the US to call for negotiations between the two sides when the Israelis reject the very notion of a two sovereign state solution. Ramzi Jabar [in the comment above] supports the resistance [including rocket fire from Gaza]
      I don't agree with him, all peaceful means have not yet been tried, for instance Abbas refuses to formally sign up to the ICC and thereby gain standing, it is only when and if the ICC [for political reasons] reject an investigation into [well documented] Israeli war crimes that I would support Ramzi.

  • Oren's charge that networks showcase Palestinian dead at behest of Hamas is 'obscene' -- Penhaul
    • This slaughter is official Israeli policy, called the Dahiya doctrine, here is how an Israeli official described it in 2009."Israel has sought the political, as well as military, emasculation of Hamas through the widespread destruction of Gaza’s infrastructure and economy.
      This is known as the “Dahiya Doctrine,” named after a suburb of Beirut that was almost leveled during Israel’s attack on Lebanon in summer 2006. The doctrine was encapsulated in a phrase used by Dan Halutz, Israel’s chief of staff, at the time. He said Lebanon’s bombardment would “turn back the clock 20 years.”
      The commanding officer in Israel’s south, Yoav Galant, echoed those sentiments on the Gaza offensive’s first day: the aim, he said, was to “send Gaza decades into the past.”
      Beyond these sound-bites, Gadi Eisenkot, the head of Israel’s northern command, clarified in October the practical aspects of the strategy: “What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on. We will apply disproportionate force on it and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases. This is not a recommendation. This is a plan.”
      In the interview, Gen Eisenkot was discussing the next round of hostilities with Hizballah. However, the doctrine was intended for use in Gaza, too".In the interview, Gen Eisenkot was discussing the next round of hostilities with Hizballah. However, the doctrine was intended for use in Gaza, too.

      Gabriel Siboni, a colonel in the reserves, set out the new “security concept” in an article published by Tel Aviv University’s Institute of National Security Studies two months before the assault on Gaza. Conventional military strategies for waging war against states and armies, he wrote, could not defeat sub-national resistance movements, such as Hizballah and Hamas, that have deep roots in the local population.
      The goal instead was to use “disproportionate force,” thereby “inflicting damage and meting out punishment to an extent that will demand long and expensive reconstruction processes.”
      Siboni identified the chief target of Israel’s rampages as “decision makers and the power elite,” including “economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the [enemy] organization.” link to

  • PLO official Hanan Ashrawi: Israel's assault on Gaza is 'state terrorism' and should be referred to the International Criminal Court
    • Hostage, thank you for your welcome comments on this thread. Have I got this right? The OTP has decided she is not competent to say whether Palestine is a state, and since 12[1] and 12[3] both say a "state" can confer jurisdiction by becoming a party to the statute [article 12 [1] or, the "state" making an ad hoc declaration accepting the courts jurisdiction [article 12 [3] Why has the Prosecutor not consulted the relevant bodies [the Secretary General of the UN or the Assembly of state parties, who ARE competent to make that decision? Why does the prosecutor insist "the ball is in the Palestinians court" and "we are waiting for them". What procedural steps or other actions are required to decide these things? A court of law is supposed to offer remedies not leave matters in abeyance.

    • W.Jones. In my opinion the Prosecutor does have discretion, and could base any decision on any number of facts, she would of course have to justify any decision in a legally well thought through argument. However in this case the correct procedure to follow and the only one that makes any sense is for the Prosecutor to let the pre trial chamber judges make a decision, it is their job, they can trawl through all the existing law and precedents on whether Palestine is 'a state' and make a well thought through legal determination. Or she could send it to the Secretary General at the United Nations, who I believe is the depository for the ICC. If he has a doubt it is practice for him to let the General Assembly make that decision, because of the huge vote in favor of Palestinian membership of UNESCO any vote at the UNGA would be a slam dunk.

    • Kalithea @ The ICC stated they cannot proceed unless the Security Council agrees to the Palestinians having State status and not just observer status at the U.N.
      I don't agree, In my opinion when the Prosecutor needs to make a decision like "is Palestine a state"? She must either pass that decision on to the judges in the pre trial chamber, whose job it is, or pass it to Banki Moon for him to determine, if he has doubt it is the practice for him to let the UNGA make the decision [which of course they have already done] . Of course under the 'all states formula' this has already been decided when the Cook Islands became a UN member, simply by virtue of its membership of a UN Agency 'the World Health Organization [WHO]. Similarly Palestine, being a member of UNESCO should be afforded that same right. Where are you Hostage?

    • Moreno-Ocampo.. "The ICC’s job is to investigate and prosecute only in cases in which the local legal system is not performing. “In a dictatorship they can make you disappear and kill you,” said Moreno-Ocampo. “But here, even if the situation is awful, you cannot disappear; you have the rule of law.” This guy is a comedian, the Israel Supreme court refuses to have an opinion on the issue of settlements, they say it is a political matter. Although they have declared that the West Bank and Gaza are occupied territories which should be administered through customary International law. As for the second quote Israel has disappeared thousands over the last few years, over 800 in the last 2 weeks. He also said the ICC could be a double edged sword and that Abbas could be in the dock also. That would be wonderfully ironic but has nothing to do with whether Israel or more specifically its leaders are guilty of war crimes. Ocampo is politicizing the court, as was proved when he sat on the Palestinians complaint for three years before rejecting it on spurious grounds. The reason Abbas has to sign up, is to establish once and for all whether Palestinians can get justice or not, even if they have to jump through hoops to do so. Or establish whether the court is a purely political one, were only individuals from the third world will be punished. Its that simple.

    • I am really confused about this, the story here is Abbas has not acceded to the ICC because of the Israeli threats. The ICC have asked Abbas to sign up for membership of the ICC [and gain standing] which he is refusing to do. And yet they have put in an official complaint on the war crimes Israel is committing in Gaza through a Paris based Lawyer. So Abbas having been told his initial complaints filed years ago cannot be investigated because he will not formally sign up to the ICC. Now we have the ludicrous suggestion that the ICC will change their minds with this complaint, when in reality nothing has changed. It has been suggested that the reason Abbas will not sign up for the ICC is because he has 'made commitments ' [presumably to the US] not to do so, if that was the case he could have had the UK on board at the UN when the UK said they would support Palestinian statehood if they promised not to pursue the ICC option, he refused [quite rightly] that blackmail, yet here we are back to square one because Abbas will not sign up. I do wish Hostage would comment on this.

  • In photos: Over 1,000 New Yorkers protest Israel's attack on Gaza
    • I hope they ignore the ban, and if they are confronted, hope they tear the eff'n place up.

    • The French have banned pro Palestinian marches planned for Paris tomorrow. Meanwhile, French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve has warned that anyone caught shouting slogans against Israel or torching Israel’s flag would be arrested. link to

  • Israeli forces shell UN school where displaced Palestinians gathered, killing at least 9
    • In resolution 1973, adopted on 17 March 2011, the Security Council demanded an immediate ceasefire in Libya, including an end to ongoing attacks against civilians, which it said might constitute "crimes against humanity." When is the UNSC going to invoke 'The right to protect in this case' the West will not of course, hypocritical bastards.

  • Why Israel's legal justifications for 'Operation Protective Edge' are wrong
    • Noam Chomsky's latest thoughts on the massacre.. “The incursion and bombardment of Gaza is not about destroying Hamas. It is not about stopping rocket fire into Israel, it is not about achieving peace.
      The Israeli decision to rain death and destruction on Gaza, to use lethal weapons of the modern battlefield on a largely defenseless civilian population, is the final phase in a decades-long campaign to ethnically-cleanse Palestinians.
      Israel uses sophisticated attack jets and naval vessels to bomb densely-crowded refugee camps, schools, apartment blocks, mosques, and slums to attack a population that has no air force, no air defense, no navy, no heavy weapons, no artillery units, no mechanized armor, no command in control, no army… and calls it a war. It is not a war, it is murder.
      When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing. You can’t defend yourself when you’re militarily occupying someone else’s land. That’s not defense. Call it what you like, it’s not defense.”

    • Al-Haq.. " the international community must uphold their obligations under international law, including their own obligations under the Geneva Conventions, in order to end Israeli impunity". Many legal commentators differ on what are the responsibilities on states to "do something", some say other states have a duty not to assist the breach of International law, others that states are not obliged to actively stop such violations Whatever the case, the primary duty of the Palestinian state is to protect its people, this it is signally failing to do, For instance it has failed to formally join the ICC and indict the individuals responsible for all the well documented war crimes to date, including this latest massacre. President Abbas recently told the New York Times “I don’t like to go to the courts. I don’t like courts. I want to solve my problems directly between the parties”, International law means nothing unless the people on the receiving end of the war crimes are going to actively pursue their claims in the appropriate venues. Abbas is entirely to blame.

  • 'We know that Israel has no red line when it attacks us': Civilians bear the brunt as Israel’s offensive on Gaza continues
    • The French Authorities are quick to prosecute BDS folks on the basis of boycotting Israeli goods, under the hate crime laws in France. It is an offence to use language which expresses racial or religious hatred, the courts also deem the law to include a victims national origins. Of course in this case antisemitism is clearly involved. Unless of course the courts rule only Israelis are Semites.

    • Abbas moves all his family to Amman, not you may think to protect them from Israel, but to protect them from incensed Palestinians who regard him as a traitor. It must be comforting for ordinary Palestinians to know all the members of their glorious leaders family are safe and they are left to try and survive. Some people call Abbas hapless, in truth he is a quisling of the highest to

  • Humanitarian agencies warn of imminent water crisis in Gaza
    • EWASH has called on the International community to work with Israel to ensure vital water infrastructure is not targeted. Sorry, Israel deliberately targets water and sewage facilities, it deliberately ignores the the rules of war encapsulated in the Hague and Geneva conventions, it is a law unto itself, therefore the resistance must use all means at its disposal to fight back, sabotage Israeli water and other economic infrastructure, unless there is a cost to Israel, it will not stop the ethnic cleansing and murder.

  • US plays decisive role in Israel's attack on Gaza
    • Agree lysias, The accurate targeting of many of the economic targets in Israel is easily done with operatives using the cell structure in the belly of the beast. With the number and quality of arms available to many groups in the middle east at this time it is surprising the resistance have to use relatively crude homemade firecrackers, only to blow up the desert. The closure of Ben Gurion proves how vulnerable Israel is to a campaign of economic sabotage, it is only when Israelis have to pay a price, that the oppression will end.

  • Massacre in Gaza: At least 60 killed in Shuja'iyeh, over 60,000 in UN shelters
    • Ashrawi said " she'd like to see the situation addressed by the international community before a legal case is prepared". Excuse me, the International community has had 47 years to do something, it has failed, not least because of the US veto at the UNSC. The Palestinian leadership have already asked the ICC to investigate the situation in Palestine the ICC in return have asked for the Palestinians to join the court, they have refused to do so. The Palestinians have a right to ask the International community to act. But when they do not act themselves and join the court, the one venue Israel/US fear, one must ask the question, why?

    • Most people on this site and all Palestinians agree, Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity on a daily basis. And yet the so called leader of the Palestinians will not formally join the ICC, he has said "I don't like to go to courts" "I don't like courts" and "I want to solve my problems directly between the parties". Have the last few weeks changed his mind? I doubt it.

  • Video: Resistance activists down power line in West Bank
  • Israeli military destroyed el-Wafa hospital even though it knew there were no weapons inside
    • ejran, Don't see why not, it was also sent to many people at the BBC over their poor reporting.

    • From: Mads Gilbert
      Date: Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:10 AM
      Subject: Gaza needs you!

      Dearest friends -

      The last night was extreme. The "ground invasion" of Gaza resulted in scores and carloads with maimed, torn apart, bleeding, shivering, dying - all sorts of injured Palestinians, all ages, all civilians, all innocent.
      The heroes in the ambulances and in all of Gaza's hospitals are working 12-24hrs shifts, grey from fatigue and inhuman workloads (without payment all in Shifa for the last 4 months), they care, triage, try to understand the incomprehensible chaos of bodies, sizes, limbs, walking, not walking, breathing, not breathing, bleeding, not bleeding humans. HUMANS!
      Now, once more treated like animals by "the most moral army in the world" (sic!).
      My respect for the wounded is endless, in their contained determination in the midst of pain, agony and shock; my admiration for the staff and volunteers is endless, my closeness to the Palestinian "sumud" gives me strength, although in glimpses I just want to scream, hold someone tight, cry, smell the skin and hair of the warm child, covered in blood, protect ourselves in an endless embrace - but we cannot afford that, nor can they.
      Ashy grey faces - Oh NO! not one more load of tens of maimed and bleeding, we still have lakes of blood on the floor in the ER, piles of dripping, blood-soaked bandages to clear out - oh - the cleaners, everywhere, swiftly shovelling the blood and discarded tissues, hair, clothes, cannulas - the leftovers from death - all taken be prepared again, to be repeated all over. More then 100 cases came to Shifa last 24 hrs. enough for a large well trained hospital with everything, but here - almost nothing: electricity, water, disposables, drugs, OR-tables, instruments, monitors - all rusted and as if taken from museums of yesterdays hospitals.But they do not complain, these heroes. They get on with it, like warriors, head on, enormous resolute. And as I write these words to you, alone, on a bed, my tears flows, the warm but useless tears of pain and grief, of anger and fear. This is not happening!
      An then, just now, the orchestra of the Israeli war-machine starts its gruesome symphony again, just now: salvos of artillery from the navy boats just down on the shores, the roaring F16, the sickening drones (Arabic 'Zennanis', the hummers), and the cluttering Apaches. So much made and paid in and by US.
      Mr. Obama - do you have a heart?
      I invite you - spend one night - just one night - with us in Shifa. Disguised as a cleaner, maybe.
      I am convinced, 100%, it would change history.
      Nobody with a heart AND power could ever walk away from a night in Shifa without being determined to end the slaughter of the Palestinian people.
      But the heartless and merciless have done their calculations and planned another "dahyia" onslaught on Gaza.
      The rivers of blood will keep running the coming night. I can hear they have tuned their instruments of death.
      Please. Do what you can. This, THIS cannot continue.

      Gaza, Occupied Palestine
      Numbers are enclosed (last page in the MOH-report in English. The pictures are mine, taken some few hours ago, in the early morning hours of Friday July 18th 2014). More to come. I'm sorry to bug you).
      Mads Gilbert MD PhD
      Professor and Clinical Head
      Clinic of Emergency Medicine
      University Hospital of North Norway
      N-9038 Tromsø, Norway

  • Israel is in a pickle
    • Six Palestinian prisoners released as part of the Shalit swap have been rearrested in the sweep in the West Bank and have been told by Israeli judges they will have to serve the rest of their life sentences, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Prisoner affairs Zayad Abu-Ein said “This represents a disregard to the world and to the international and humanitarian values,” he added, accusing Israel of not honoring any agreements or understandings concluded with any party, whether regionally or internationally.
      “This makes Israel a state above the law and a state of gangs that has no political credibility.” link to

  • Activists occupy UK govt office demanding end to arms trade with Israel
    • France the first country in the world to ban pro Palestinian rallies.
      Anyone who turns up to an illegal demonstration now faces up to a year in prison, and a 15,000 euro fine.
      If they hide their faces to avoid being identified, this sentence can be increased to three years, and a 45,000 fine.
      Even those who publish details of an illegal rally on social media face up to a year in prison, and a 15,000 euro fine.
      This can be increased to seven years and a 100,000 fine if the postings lead to violence. link to I suspect they would like to bring back the guillotine.

    • Amigo,Don't forget the torches and pitchforks, send them back home.

  • 10 Palestinian civilians killed in last 24 hours, bringing total to 158
    • Abbas has said he has made commitments to the US/Israel not to apply to the International institutions, presumably also the ICC. When was this commitment made? What are the terms of the commitment, now that the talks are over? Now that the Israelis are slaughtering the Palestinians, does his commitment still stand? These are fundamental questions Abbas needs to answer, if he does not he deserves to be in a jail cell alongside Netanyahu and the other members of his criminal cabal. link to

  • Netanyahu says there will never be a real Palestinian state
    • George Smith @ This “international consensus” is a consensus of a tiny coterie of ruling elites".
      I think you are wrong, how else can world opinion be measured except by the unanimous views outlined in my comment above.
      "It’s not a consensus that can mobilize a global campaign for justice. For that, only equal rights will do, and equal rights will mean an end to Jewish ethnocracy".
      I presume you mean equal rights in a one state solution? This would mean the end of Israel, This may be a good thing if the end result was indeed equal rights for all,unfortunately that is a recipe for civil war and massive ethnic cleansing, then you say two states would mean the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the West Bank, no, they are in the West Bank illegally, some formula would have to be found either to repatriate them back to Israel proper or negotiate with the Palestinian Government to allow them to stay [as citizens of Palestine] remember it is the Israeli Government and the Yesha council who initiated the settlement enterprise after the 67 war they have the primary responsibility to bring it to a close. I for one am not holding my breath.

    • I happen to believe in the two state solution, this also happens to be the solution backed by every nation, and every Agency and all other institutions at the United Nations, there is no political party anywhere in the world including Israel and Palestine who favor a one state solution, in fact the only reason Israelis would want one state is if they could complete the annexation of the West Bank and realize the dream inherent in Zionism for "The Land of Israel" as they see it. The little problem for them are those squatters who reside in their millions on the land God gave them 4,000 years ago, their efforts at ethnic cleansing, theft and murder has failed to thin the Palestinians out. In fact their numbers are growing and pose a demographic threat to the purity of the Israeli state. The US state Dept published a report in 2004 where they calculated the population of Palestinians living in Israel, the Occupied Gaza Strip, Occupied East Jerusalem and rest of the Occupied West Bank combined now exceeds the number of Israeli Jews,
      The Palestinian population stands at over 5.3 million while the Jewish population stands at 5.2 million.
      The figures come from the U.S. State Department’s annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices. link to The only answer to Israelis who want a majority Jewish state and a majority which will be guaranteed for the foreseeble future, is to comply with International Law, get back behind the borders they agreed to in 1948, then they will be accepted by the whole of the Islamic community [57 states], and be a valued member of the community of nations. Failure to do this means never ending death and destruction, with the inevitable demise of the racist state.

  • Out to Kill: Israel’s assault on Gaza is not to stop rocket fire 
    • Walid, theft is the least of the crimes these murderous scum commit, as well as targeting civilian houses they also target water and sewerage systems, collective punishment on a horrifying scale link to Abbas, first item on the agenda, sign on at the ICC or get out of the way.

  • Israel viciously bombs Gaza, that's the only truth
    • The US are the biggest hypocrites when committing war crimes themselves, in Afghanistan they drone strike the target then follow up with what they call a double tap, bombing the rescuers. The US political class are not the "exceptional" people as they boast, but the most contemptible.

  • Israel's message to the Palestinians: Submit, leave or die
    • Abierno@ "Rashid Khalidi reports in an AlterNet article that Netanyahu “slipped” in a pronouncement indicating that permanent occupation is the current position
      of Israel". Netanyahu insisted the latest Gaza conflict proved that Israel could never allow an independent Palestine in the occupied West Bank, insisting it would simply become “another 20 Gazas.”

      “I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan,” Netanyahu to

    • "And it was clear that the Palestinian Authority, which had several months to take an initiative that would have bolstered the Palestinians’ position, would not do so" I agree ToivoS, Abbas must take a lot of the blame, Abbas recently told [I think it was the NYT] “I don’t like to go to the courts. I don’t like courts. I want to solve my problems directly between the parties", this when a majority of the other Palestinian leadership members including Arekat and 17 NGO's wanted Abbas to formally sign on to the ICC, even the Prosecutor at the ICC say's she is waiting for the Palestinians ["the ball is in their court"] but the collaborator Abbas will not move. Then in South Africa [at Mandela's funeral]he said he was against boycott of Israeli goods [BDS Israel proper]. Then to put the top hat on it, said that security co operation with Israel is 'sacred', he has just admitted that he has given assurances to the US that he will not approach the ICC, this is lunacy. During Abbas's rule he has acted like a pharaoh, always asking for advice from the Arab League, a more futile act I cannot imagine,the truth is the only true supporters of the Palestinians are the countries under attack now from other Arab states led by Saudi Arabia, Iran,Syria and Hezbollah, Abbas has been in power 20 years in which time settlements have expanded exponentially and ethnic cleansing is a daily occurence, the Palestinians will lose, lose, lose, while that pathetic man leads them.

  • Boston transit authority pulls 'apartheid' ads-- for 'demeaning' Israel
    • Hopefully the AAA can get a twofer out of it, or a triple. Compensation for taking the adverts down early, the negative publicity over the blatant double standards and the Authority's embarrassment if they are forced to put them up again.

  • Deaths of five teenagers in the West Bank expose mainstream indifference to Palestinian life
    • According to Media Lens "The missing, ugly reality is that over the last 13 years, on average, one Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every 3 days. Since the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000, 1,523 Palestinian children have been killed by Israel’s occupation forces. Over the same time period, 129 Israeli children have been killed. Thus, the ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children killed is more than ten to one." link to
      Those two boys who were murdered in cold blood recently should not be forgotten, their deaths were recorded on film by a local shopkeeper who was threatened by the IDF who confiscated the film. The IDF are a bunch of cowardly scum who are so brave when confronted by women and children.

  • A Call from Gaza: Support our right to life!
    • It is not only in Gaza collective punishment is being used, Arab areas of Israel who protested Israeli aggression in the West Bank have been singled out for discrimination.
      Adalah, the Legal Centre for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, sent an urgent appeal on Monday after the Israeli Ministry of Health closed an important medical clinic in Umm Al-Fahm and a number of companies, including the electricity company, the telecommunication company Bezeq and Orange for mobile services, decided to close shop in the Arab areas and prevented their teams and staff from providing services to Arabs in the cities and villages more generally. link to

  • Chomsky and BDS
    • RoHa,@ "Morality always trumps law" Way back in the 1840's an anti slavery lawyer called Salmon P Chase from Ohio, took a case right through to the Supreme court, after earlier court judgements had found his arguments thus "All that is morality we are not interested in morality, the law is our only guide". He went on to lose the Supreme court judgement also 9-0. But his brief was also an appeal to a much wider audience because the final arbiter in cases of a moral or political nature is not the courts judgement, but public opinion, not the public opinion of the American people only, but of the civilized world, the rest is history. Professor Jules Lobel mentioned this case in his wonderful keynote speech at Hastings College 'Litigating Palestine'.link to Around about 20 mins.

    • Chomsky is right as regards Israels non compliance with Resolutions on right of return, since the US veto will come into play making enforcement of any Security Council Resolution impossible . This from Wikipedia .."Article 94 establishes the duty of all UN members to comply with decisions of the Court [the ICJ] involving them. If parties do not comply, the issue may be taken before the Security Council for enforcement action. There are obvious problems with such a method of enforcement. If the judgment is against one of the permanent five members of the Security Council or its allies, any resolution on enforcement would then be vetoed. This occurred, for example, after the Nicaragua case, when Nicaragua brought the issue of the U.S.'s non-compliance with the Court's decision before the Security Council.[6] Furthermore, if the Security Council refuses to enforce a judgment against any other state, there is no method of forcing the state to comply. Furthermore, the most effective form to take action for the Security Council, coercive action under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter, can be justified only if international peace and security are at stake. The Security Council has never done this so far". The ICJ found against the US in the Nicaragua case, the US promptly ignored the decision.

  • Senator Rand Paul pens over-the-top pander to pro-Israel crowd
    • This is despicable from Senator Paul, according to Media Lens "The missing, ugly reality is that over the last 13 years, on average, one Palestinian child has been killed by Israel every 3 days. Since the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000, 1,523 Palestinian children have been killed by Israel’s occupation forces. Over the same time period, 129 Israeli children have been killed. Thus, the ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children killed is more than ten to one." link to What will these political whores not say to advance their careers.

  • Real and surreal in occupied Palestine
    • Abbas has given commitments to the US/Israel that he will not approach UN institutions and presumably not to apply to formally join the ICC. link to this is incredible, I can imagine Abbas sitting in a refugee camp in Jordan with millions of other Palestinians and saying, I "may" think about going to the ICC, what the hell is up with the man, going to the ICC is not even an act of resistance, it is the least any self respecting leader would do for his people in the face of war crimes being committed against them on a daily basis.

  • In 'NYT' tale of two mothers, the occupation is a human-relations problem
    • For all the assistance Abbas gave the IDF in the search for the missing Israelis [now dead] it will not save the Palestinians, or Abbas, when Danny Danon heard of the deaths of the youths he threatened that the entire Palestinian leadership will pay a very heavy price, others called for targeted assassinations, 5 days ago economy Minister Bennett called Abbas a 'Mega Terrorist', and Foreign Minister Lieberman recently called all those protesting, even peacefully 'terrorists'. I think the Palestinian leadership should call on the UNSC to protect all Palestinians who are protected persons under International Law, from these vindictive homicidal lunatics. Or for Palestinians to try and protect themselves.

  • A settler grazes his cattle on Palestinian crops, as Israeli soldiers look on
    • The war crimes pile up day after day, Israeli Foreign Minister Lieberman now wants to prosecute [for incitement] anyone who peacefully protests, and yet Abbas will not move. Legal commentators say the Prosecutor at the ICC can and should act on Article 12[3] of the Rome Statute, that might very well be the case, the Prosecutor wants the Palestinians to formally apply for membership of the ICC, this is asking them to jump through hoops, very well, they should do so, which would make the Prosecutor look ridiculous if she still refused, or failed to ask the Judges at the ICC whose job it is to decide these things. The argument that the Palestinians would probably not be able to afford membership is surely not a good one. If Abbas is such a good friend of Saudi Arabia, who have just spent 60 Billion Dollars on F16’s and such like from the USA, to rot away in the desert, also they have just spent 12 Billion Dollars to buy a country [Egypt], so the idea the fees for membership of the ICC would be prohibitive is not realistic, one Saudi Prince probably spends more in one night at a London brothel or casino than that membership fee. If it was prohibitive then membership in all the Agencies would also be prohibitive [x57]. Maybe if they took Abbas's VIP card away and forced him to wait hours and be humiliated at a check point, he may think differently.

  • Can a neocon change his spots (and come back as a liberal interventionist for Hillary Clinton)?

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