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  • Day before deadline, Iran negotiations coming 'down to the wire' and Netanyahu still hopes to play spoiler
    • Dear Mr RoHa. Please do not refer to your ex School teacher as 7 feet tall and 3 feet broad. To do so could be an offence in the European Community [EC]. It should be she was 2.1336 metres tall and .91 metres broad. Since I suspect you live outside the EC, I will not report you, this once.
      “Queen obeys Europe and adopts metric rule” (The Daily Telegraph, 20 August 2001, page 5)
      The Queen has been told that the Sandringham Estate must stop selling wood in imperial measures within two weeks or trading standards officers will prosecute. The Sandringham sawmill, on the Queen’s Norfolk estate, has been selling oak and teak timber in feet and inches rather than metres, which is a criminal offence under EC metrication laws.
      Metrication in the UK is not the result of British membership of the EU. In 1965, …

    • John McCain suggests Israel "Go Rogue" Blow up Iran negotiations by starting war. link to The Logan Act (18 U.S.C.A. § 953 [1948]) is a single federal statute making it a crime for a citizen to confer with foreign governments against the interests of the United States. Specifically, it prohibits citizens from negotiating with other nations on behalf of the United States without authorization. McCains talk is far worse than the Logan Act sets out. McCain actually wants to start a war. Not only has the 'Songbird' got a huge yellow stripe up his back, he is a psychopath. He should be locked up for everybody's safety.

    • I would like to know how the US could ratchet up sanctions. Are there any US companies still doing business with Iran? What I think McConnell means, is threatening other counties not to trade with Iran. That will be a tall order, Russia, China and the other BRICS, with Europe waiting in the wings, will not tolerate US intransigence, and are eager to open up the lucrative trade with Iran. Of course, no deal, would mean that only the military option would be left. With that scenario, enter stage left the US electorate, who would rise up in far greater numbers than they did when bombing Syria was proposed by the usual suspects.

  • Thousands in Ramallah mourn Ali Mahmoud Safi, 20, killed by Israeli soldiers while protesting
    • Just when you thought the Palestinian Leadership could not stoop any lower a PA Official calls on other Arab states to bomb Gaza. "Arab states have a duty to “strike those who have violated legitimacy with an iron fist, regardless of the place, time or circumstances, beginning with Palestine,” said Mahmoud al-Habbash, religious affairs advisor to PA leader Mahmoud Abbas".
      link to

    • With all this resistance going on, we have the disgusting spectacle of Abbas supporting the Saudi bombing of Yemen. Nasrallah said of Abbas, when the Israelis decide to invade the West Bank and Gaza Strip you have no case, just go home you have no case to argue. Professor Norman Finkelstein on his blog rightly called Abbas, a brainless Traitor. link to

  • US Court of Appeals upholds discriminatory ruling against transit ads critical of Israel
  • Netanyahu's victory marks the end of the two-state solution
    • The White House said Wednesday the US may not use its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to shield Israel from unfavorable resolutions, a dramatic shift in a decades-old US policy.
      The US would reevaluate its approach based on Netanyahu's “change in his position,” White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.
      “The United States and this administration are deeply concerned by divisive rhetoric that seeks to marginalize Arab-Israeli citizens,” Earnest said. link to Well we can dream can't we?

    • Interesting article, one wonders what ideas the Israeli leadership have to solve this question? 'Prisons', like Jeff say's would be the preferred option, then periodic attacks, like on Gaza, to put down any resistance, possibly followed by expulsion. Maybe they think they can get away with it, past experience could suggest they would. Even Jabotinsky envisaged a different scenario, when talking about the Palestinian people he said "And the leadership will pass to the moderate groups, who will approach us with a proposal that we should both agree to mutual concessions. Then we may expect them to discuss honestly practical questions, such as a guarantee against Arab displacement, or equal rights for Arab citizen, or Arab national integrity.
      And when that happens, I am convinced that we Jews will be found ready to give them satisfactory guarantees, so that both peoples can live together in peace, like good neighbors.
      But the only way to obtain such an agreement, is the iron wall, which is to say a strong power in Palestine that is not amenable to any Arab pressure. In other words, the only way to reach an agreement in the future is to abandon all idea of seeking an agreement at present". link to
      Get that, even Jabotinsky thought equal rights for Arab citizens could be possible. I am not optimistic,and think the prison scenario will play out, followed by a great war. Many problems in the world are not resolvable, and war is the great decider, at present the military balance favors Israel, it will not in the near future, that's the choice the Israelis seemed to have made.

  • The implications of a U.S. court's indictment of the Palestinian Authority
    • " The verdict is an egregious step towards to an approach which deals with political conflicts through a legal framework". I don't agree with you, that has been the problem with the PA all along, Abbas simply refusing to approach the courts, even after the political process has broken down. The Israelis have used the courts to their advantage often. I remember the Israelis getting the Cypriot authorities to stop a vessel bound for Gaza, for some pathetic reason to do with safety, dirty windscreen or such like. The Palestinians have all the law on their side, they need to take a leaf out of Israel's book and give them both barrels in every court venue they can find, starting with the ICC.

  • Palestinian leaders vote to end security coordination with Israel, a cornerstone of Oslo and the occupation
    • Hostage, Sorry no reply facility on your earlier comment on the ICC, According to this article only three people in the Palestinian leadership are eligible to initiate the complaint link to The only remaining hurdle was to have an application signed by one of three members who the ICC consider as lawful representatives of a State, which are the head of state, the head of government and the minister of foreign affairs. All Maliki needed to do was to confirm the application made by fellow ministers in the Palestinian Unity Government. This he was unable to do.

  • In praise of Mr. Netanyahu’s political theater
    • Philip Munger.-a low ball figure, I agree, Linda Bilmes at the Kennedy School of Government estimated the combined costs of the Iraq/Afghanistan conflicts would be up to 6 trillion dollars. This figure includes the long term costs of the wounded. link to I agree pabelmont's comment was good as usual, by the way here is what 1 trillion dollars looks to

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • Right on cue Obama calls for a freeze on all nuclear work for 10 years, "Obama said on Monday that Iran must commit itself to a verifiable freeze on nuclear activities for at least 10 years in order for a comprehensive nuclear deal to be reached". link to No matter how demeaning and insulting Netanyahu is to the US, the US always folds or compensates with cash or 100 of the latest warplanes. The US does not have it in its DNA to do a deal with Iran, the sanctions have been in place since 1979, I suspect the US will insist on this freeze, and try to keep its sanctions in place, that's what delusional superpowers do. Will the rest of the world follow? I don't think so.

  • Warren's out, as list of skippers surges, and White House offers Selma for Iran
    • Any Palestinians who reads this puke inducing diatribe, must now be aware that the US is not in anyway a neutral or a friend to them in any sense, all the old cliches are there, one wonders whether she can believe what she is saying herself. But for one who admitted to spending more time defending Israel at the UN than anything else, surely it must dawn on her the futility of the Zionist project. But money talks, and her slobbering over Israel has certainly progressed her career.

  • Bipartisanship is dead, as Netanyahu, AIPAC, and GOP square off against Obama over Iran
    • “The U.S.-Israel relationship transcends politics and it always will,” Power said. How is it possible for a so called representative of the United States of America to say such a stupid thing? Unless it was an established fact that the State of Israel is indeed the 51st state of the USA.

  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
    • That caption reminds me of what Bill Clinton remarked privately after his first meeting with Bibi, "Who the fuck does he think he is? Who's the fucking superpower here?" Obama's fawning makes it obvious. link to

  • It's not about nukes, it's about the US shifting the power balance -- Parsi
    • Thanks Walid, I didn't say they wore them. It may be show business, but if I was the enemy, It would sure spook me, look what happened when a couple of thousand Islamic state head choppers invaded Iraq, 30,000 heavily armed Iraqi troops dropped their weapons and ran for their lives, I think they are still running. Strange how losing your head concentrates the mind.

    • There have been three game simulations of war with Iran, the US has been defeated in all three. In one such encounter the US blue forces took on the Iranian red forces led by tough US marine Lt General Van Ripen [the millennium challenge 2002]. The US fleet was sunk by Van Ripen who used unconventional warfare, hundreds of small craft attacked the US fleet which succumbed to the sheer weight of numbers link to As Jack Straw former UK Foreign Secretary said not so long ago, an attack on Iran "would be nuts".

    • Iran will be the dominant state in the region, that is why the arc of resistance Iran, Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah are being attacked by the mercenaries of Islamic State and Al Nusra paid for by rich Saudi and other Gulf state individuals and on a sectarian basis, facilitated by Turkey and the US training so called moderates to fight the low hanging fruit of the arc in Syria and Lebanon. This strategy is not going well, even in Lebanon Harari's March 14 group of Sunni muslims who are formally opposed to Hezbollah are now in talks with them in order to thwart attacks on Lebanon from the organ eating monsters. An attack on Iran is not going to happen, because Iran is too strong, and in military terms, Israel and US bases in the Gulf could be targeted with at least 150,000 rockets from both Iran and Hezbollah. The US fleet would be extremely vulnerable since Iran has so many of the latest anti-ship missiles [bought from the Chinese]. A land invasion like the Iraq debacle, would need an army of one and a half million men to try to secure the nuclear sites, in other words US conscription. With a population of nearly 80 million most of whom would fight to the death to kill any invader, [remember the Shia take their shrouds into battle]. Any aggression against such a proud and independent state would be far too costly, and Obama and his chiefs of staff know it.

  • Israel turns off power to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the dead of winter
    • PLO/PA found responsible for terrorist acts in Israel, will the US try and extradite Palestinian leaders including Abbas, put them on trial and execute them? I would not put it past the Israelis to try. On the other hand the Israelis use the courts very effectively, the Palestinians even though they have all the law on their side are very reluctant to pursue legal options. With Israels de facto annexation of area C [62% of West Bank] that fried 'chicken solution' as advocated by David Bar-illan Director of Communication and policy planning in Netanyahu's office, is coming along fine, then when the Palestinians are in bantustans surrounded by settlements, cut off the electricity, flood their homes and kill them whenever they get the chance.

  • Netanyahu claims to know 'details' of Iran deal -- and State Dep't mocks him
    • Too true Ramzi, David Hearst said that the Saudis and Egypt colluded with Israel to attack Hamas in 'operation protective edge' the Saudis would sell their own Grandmothers to keep their crowns, half men all of them. link to
      With friends like the Saudis the Palestinians don't need enemies. I hope the monsters the Saudis created [IS] turn on them, and hang them all on lamp posts.

    • It is entirely possible Israel is aware of the state of the negotiation with Iran. "In yet another representative example, Wright writes that Wendy Sherman, head of the American delegation to the Baghdad negotiations of May 2012, chose first to go to Israel to debrief the country’s leadership before she returned to Washington".

      “As an anonymous American official explained to the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, ‘We updated the Israelis in detail before we updated our own government.’ link to In my opinion this is not about a nuclear Iran, rather Israel wants sanctions to stay in place fearing not only Iran's growing conventional weaponry, but also its influence in the region. Iran joining the community of nations trading with the west in a normal way is anathema to the Israelis.

  • White House suggests Israel is lying about Iran talks-- as Obama officials shun Netanyahu
    • There is one thing the US [Masters of the Universe] fear more than anything, and that is to be laughed at. Ms Psaki your doing a great job, you have missed your vocation, stand up comedian.

  • Netanyahu's disaster: speech cost 'omnipotent' lobby a veto proof majority for Iran sanctions
    • First comment on that link from E Burke...Let all the Demcrats skip the event. It will demonstrate conclusively to the people of Israel and Jews in the U.S. that Democrats favor Hezbollah and Hamas over the U.S. ally Israel. Would not go that far, but would be a nice thought if they did.

    • Natanyahu's ploy to stymie the 5 plus one talks are not so much about nuclear weapons because all US Intellegence Agencies say Iran does not have the capabilities nor the will to acquire them. Rather Israel sees Irans conventional missile capabilities as the main threat, some analysts reckon there are 100.000 missiles aimed at Israeli cities and vital infrastructure from both Iran and Hezbollah. That is why the US are trying to include these missiles in the nuclear deal. It won't happen of course, I suspect the US will be so reluctant to do a final deal with Iran that the negotiations will fail and go the same way the North Korean ones did, then "In 1994, faced with North Korea’s announced intent to withdraw from the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires non-nuclear weapon states to forswear the development and acquisition of nuclear weapons, the United States and North Korea signed the Agreed Framework. Under this agreement, Pyongyang committed to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program in exchange for aid.
      Following the collapse of this agreement in 2002, North Korea claimed that it had withdrawn from the NPT in January 2003 and once again began operating its nuclear facilities".
      Back then the Bush administration only had to supply 500,000 tons of oil and some light water reactors in order to do the deal. Unfortunately under pressure from hardliners he scuppered it. The difference today is that the US were probably aware North Korea might go for the bomb, but still took the gamble, how much harder is it going to be today to do a deal, when they know Iran does not aspire to nuclear weapons? There probably will not be a deal, and I suspect the sanctions will just fall away, the rest of the World finally exasperated by US incompetence.

  • Do we really want Benjamin Netanyahu guiding U.S. foreign policy?
    • CloakAndDagger@ "in an interview with American Lawyer insisting that he has always been a faithful husband of 28 years to his wife who he claimed always traveled with him. Yet the flightlog records show while flying with Epstein and company he never was accompanied by his wife".
      I can't quite get my head round this, are you suggesting that the world renowned and former Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard University and famous Anti Semite hunter, is a liar? Hej

    • Krauss is this the quote? ...Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has never worried much about what foreign dignitaries think of him. Barack Obama is certainly not the first American president to find him a tough customer. In 1996, Bill Clinton remarked privately after his first meeting with Bibi, "Who the fuck does he think he is? Who's the fucking superpower here? link to

  • Find the Israel lobby in the 'NYT' story about Obama versus Menendez
    • What do more sanctions against Iran mean? Surely there are no US companies doing business with Iran, the only way the US can impose more sanctions, is if they threaten other countries more than they are doing now, China and Russia for instance, in which case they will rightly tell the US to 'take a hike'. Senator Menendez [Likud] is only singing for his supper. How the American electorate put up him and that other crazy fool McCain, they have to explain.

  • Biden will skip Netanyahu's speech
    • Only give him 28 standing ovations, that will teach him a lesson.

    • "Matthews asked wisely. If we struck Iran we’d have to do so again every two years." That's wishful thinking, The US will not bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, the middle east would erupt in flames and Israel would be blamed. An Iranian General said if just one nuclear facility was hit then Dimona would be destroyed link to In my opinion all Israeli cities and infrastructure could be hit with a barrage of hundreds of Iranian missiles, so that the US would need to neutralize any possible retaliatory strike, which would entail a massive air campaign spread over many weeks, and over the whole of Iran and possibly Lebanon too. It ain't going to happen, the US electorate, along with Russia and China will see to that.

  • Lawrence Summers says BDS movement is 'persecuting' Israel
    • A German Judge thinks anti-Zionism equals, or is code for, Antisemitism when sentencing an activist recently
      During the hearing, Can claimed he was not an anti-Semite and had nothing against the Jewish people but only against the Zionist state. In response, Judge Sastry is quoted by Die Welt saying, “‘Zionist’ is the language of anti-Semites, the code for ‘Jew.'”

      Sastry’s judgment, which does not form a binding precedent in German law, essentially semantically equates antisemitism and anti-Zionism.
      Can was sentenced to three months’ probation and a fine of 200 euros. He has until Friday to appeal.
      On his Facebook page this week, Can reiterated he that he is not against Jews and stated his intention of appealing to both the district and federal courts. link to

  • Netanyahu is a paper tiger
    • One problem with that analysis is that if Natanyahu is replaced by Labor/Livni then the International community will laud that as an opportunity to return to the peace talks for the next 5 years?, when not only were Labor instrumental in starting the settlement enterprise, but have said they will keep it going.

  • Palestinians to take Israeli settlements to the ICC following announcement of 450 new units
    • Two comments stand out for me in Ocampos piece in the Israeli paper, 1. "and can also argue that the Oslo agreements exclude Israelis from Palestinian jurisdiction and as a consequence from the ICC’s authority". Does he not know Palestine is officially occupied territory? Israel can go anywhere and do anything [within the parameters of International law] in that territory, and it does so.
      2. On the settlements "This will be a difficult debate for Israel, but it should be ready to participate in order to do damage control. Israel could present its arguments connected with the jurisdiction but also allege that settlements are not in Palestine but rather in disputed territories, and additionally that the alleged crimes were eventually committed in the past by those who decided the settlements. The possibility to discuss the legal limits could contribute to a peaceful negotiation of the problem".
      Ocampo should apply to be Israels lawyer, "Disputed territories" please consult the opinion of the ICJ in 2004 all 15 Judges agreed the settlements are illegal.
      Good work Hostage

    • Professor William Schabas has resigned from the UN Commission, if he did that under pressure from Israel, [they said he was biased] by resigning wouldn't he be admitting there might be some truth in the allegation? He must have known the Israelis would attack him, far better to stand your ground and fight on principles. Why hasn't he done that?

  • 'Two Blue Lines,' Tom Hayes's third film on Palestine, premieres tonight in Columbus
    • "Zionist “settlers” claim all of historic Palestine", I'm afraid its worse than that, all the major movers and shakers in Israel from Livni to the extreme right including Likud claim all of historic Palestine and will not relinquish sovereignty of one inch without being forced to. That does not necessarily mean Palestinians will be expelled, only provided they keep their heads down and accept living as second class citizens in some kind of constitutional monstrosity called Bantustans. All paid for of course by handouts from the EU/US and rich Arab states. Any complaints and they will receive the Gaza treatment. The world will not put up with this, I suspect the axis of resistance Iran Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah will stockpile 100's of thousands of rockets that would have the capacity to destroy Israels infrastructure, together with BDS. A fatal combination for Israel coming down the pike, unless it changes its ways. All power to Tom Heyes and the success of his film.

  • Phila Inquirer publishes a lie: 'Anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are one and the same'
  • Occupier’s justice: heads and tails you lose
    • This case is just a symptom of a much bigger malaise, one that can only be solved by a court applying International law, first by declaring all the settlements illegal and then indicting the individuals responsible. Although Abbas has signed up to membership of the ICC, I suspect Abbas will hold off any actual complaints. So, perverse as these Israeli decisions are, ultimately the Palestinian leadership are also partly responsible.

  • Netanyahu speech could turn Israel lobby into a political football
    • More US sanctions, just what might those be? The US has done all it can to threaten other countries from trading with Iran, we will see those sanctions fall away when others see US/Israeli intransigence. Short of a catastrophic war [which will not happen] the US has shot its bolt, the US public has not even spoken yet, when they do it will be Congress critters who will be fearful [remember the Syria fiasco]. One question which should be asked by the press when the professional bullshit artist Netanyahu addresses Congress is...Are you, the US electorate, willing to see your children go to war and die for Israel? I wonder what the answer would be?

  • In Iraq and Syria the US sanctions its allies while its friends back its enemies (got that?)
    • Whizdom. "Iran stays out of KSA and Gulf states, but gets Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Russia is guarantor for Iran", that's basically the position now but Israel does not like it, fearing the so called "Arc of extremism" Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah will threaten its hegemonic aspirations in the region. The GCC worry for similar reasons, all their crowns are at stake. In my opinion the Sunnis now under the rule of IS will soon tire of living in the medieval middle ages and under threat of having your head cut off for the slightest misdemeanor, they call watching a football match worthy of death link to In my opinion IS is anti human and should be wiped out.

    • Ted Snider makes a good explanation here on who the good and bad guys are. For those who are still confused here is a summary from a comment in Moon of Alabama last September. "ARE you confused about what's going on in the Middle East? Allow me to explain.
      We support the Iraqi government in the fight against the Islamic State. We don't like IS, but IS is supported by Saudi Arabia, whom we do like.
      We don't like President Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but not IS, which is also fighting against him.
      We don't like Iran, but Iran supports the Iraqi government against IS. So, some of our friends support our enemies and some of our enemies are our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, whom we want to lose, but we don't want our enemies who are fighting our other enemies to win.
      If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who surely actually they're to begin with until we went in to drive them out". Do you understand now?

  • 'No to martyrdom by hunger in Yarmouk camp': Palestinian refugees protest Assad’s siege
    • Some of those opposition groups support this link to

    • "During the rally, a representative spoke on behalf of the local armed opposition groups insisted that “our military factions in this camp all agree for an immediate ceasefire to open the camp and let in aid workers" Oh, so the armed groups are partly responsible for the conditions, most Palestinians reject those Islamist groups like Al Nusra and IS, but some [a distinct minority] and from a sectarian basis do. That's unfortunate since the Hamas leadership and other Palestinian resistance factions support Hezbollah and Iran and are thankful for their military and financial support.

  • Congress invites Netanyahu to rebut Obama on Iran, and White House slams 'breach of protocol'
    • Congress should be aware, cameras will be watching their every move, who is the first to stand up, but more importantly who is the first to stop clapping, money and careers are at stake, my advice start training now link to bibi and the yoyos.

    • This is a stunning breach of protocol, but it could backfire big time on Israel, Congress critters had to face the wrath of their constituents over bombing Syria, Syria would be a walk in the park compared to this. More sanctions would see the 5+1 group split Russia and China would back Iran, the others would get cold feet and the US imposed sanctions would fall away. Iran has promised that more sanctions would mean they will resume enrichment to 20% once again. Israels gambit has never been about the bomb, but to hamstring Iran's growing economic and conventional military capabilities. Like Russia, Iran cannot and will not capitulate and become a vassal state. I agree with Maximus Decimus Meridus that this could be a fatal move for Israel if Netanyahu accepts the invitation [how could he refuse]. As George would say "bring it on".

  • French terror attacks contribute to Israeli's isolation
    • Strangely enough the Arab peace plan of 2002 based on the 67 borders and an agreed formula for a limited right of return would have been the basis for a majority of people of Jewish origin to govern Israel for the foreseeable future, probably on something like approx 75%-25%. This together with the prospect of peace with all its Arab neighbors and the entire Islamic world was summarily rejected by the Israeli government. They want all the 'Land of Israel' and they are prepared to fight and kill in order to get it, their prospects are not good, 1/The demographics are against them, many people think there is already a majority of Palestinians between the Jordan and Mediterranean, 2/The world will not put up with an Apartheid regime, 3/ The technological and military developments of their enemies grow by the day, Hezbollah have 150,000 rockets aimed at Israels vitals, Iran has an even more destructive capacity, link to

  • Obama cites donor pressure re Iran, but 'NYT' won't tell you what he means
    • The call to bomb Syria over chemical weapons was decisively rejected by the American people in spite of the Israeli lobby who wanted to bomb. In the Iran case, the lobby are even more in favor of the talks breaking down and the application of more sanctions and eventually war. Obama is right, the other members of the 5 plus1 group will see the malign influence of the lobby and cause the unilateral sanctions regime to fall apart. If Obama, even with the support of the lobby could not gin up a war against a weakened Syria, it would be impossible to do so against a regional giant like Iran, Iran has the ability to close the Strait of Hormuz and with it the economic prospects of many western countries. In the event of war, Iran with its partners Syria and Hezbollah has the rocket power to reach every city in Israel link to Is that what the lobby wants? Sheldon Adelson thinks Israel will use nuclear weapons as a demonstration, he is a fool, Israels destruction would be assured if that happened. The Iranian parliament very narrowly averted a vote on the negotiating tactics of the government team and threatened that in the event that more sanctions were imposed the government should commit to no limits to uranium enrichment. Will the US make the same mistake they made with North Korea, then US intransigence and bad faith led directly to the North Korean bomb?

  • It's not the cartoons-- a contrarian perspective from a Muslim cartoonist
    • David Cameron defended the magazine's right to offend.

      'When your freedom of expression is attacked in this way, I don't think it's surprising that people want to stand up and fight for that freedom of expression they believe in,' he told Heart radio.

      Would Cameron defend the right of any magazine to be anti semitic, "posh boy" is the most nauseating hypocrite in British politics. I hate the gobshite.

    • This is from Professor Norman Finkelsteins blog, very thought provoking.
      The Nazi publication Der Sturmer, edited by Julius Streicher, was notorious for its obscene anti-Semitic caricatures.

      Imagine if a pair of Jewish brothers, distraught at the death and destruction that had befallen the Jewish people, barged into the newspaper’s offices and murdered members of its staff.

      Would we hold up as martyrs and heroes those who chose to mock the deeply held beliefs of a suffering and despised people; to degrade, demean, insult and humiliate Jews in their hour of trial, when the world they had known was disintegrating around them?

      Imagine if a million Berliners turned out to mourn the political pornographers.

      Would we applaud this display of solidarity?

      Streicher was sentenced to death in the Nuremberg Trial.

      It is not reported that many in the enlightened West shed tears.
      link to

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  • Congress says possible Palestinian unity gov't must recognize Israel as a Jewish state in order to receive aid
    • The neocons have over extended themselves in sanctioning Russia, Russia knows their game and is not going to be a vassal state, they will suffer as the Europeans will suffer in tit for tat sanctions, but the Russians will not give in, I suspect they would eat grass before doing so.
      Also Israels attempt to gin up a war with the axis of resistance Iran,Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah [fought by the US of course] will fail. That would be fortunate for Israel since the Israeli intelligence community [its very small] estimate that Hezbollah has more rockets than all the countries in the EU link to

    • Why should the Palestinians recognize Israel as the "Jewish state" when the US government do not do so themselves, nor has Israel officially changed its name at the UN into the "Jewish state of Israel". Such recognition would open a can of worms for the Palestinians enabling Israel to entrench its discriminatory laws and eventually to transfer out of the state those citizens who don't qualify. The Palestinians won't do it of course, This episode should see it as yet another reason why the US is no friend of the Palestinians.

  • Why I am not Charlie
    • Is this racist? A cover from Charlie Hebdo. link to

    • Daniel Rich, "France Bans Pro-Palestinian Demonstrations" Slightly misleading, the Daily Mail article your piece links to is dated 19th July 2014. But no doubt that ban is still in place, and will be enforced by Madam Guillotine.

    • According to the US, France and the UK the murders in France were carried out by bad terrorists [which I agree they undoubtedly were] whereas the ones we are training in Jordan and Turkey [who they admit partner and share arms with Al Qaeda to attack Assad] are the good terrorists. What hypocrisy.

  • Is Abbas’ war crimes bid against Israel a big bluff?
    • OyVey00, I have watched those intifadas and fully agree with you, the sight of dozens of youths with catapults firing on tanks and heavily armed IDF troops is brave but pathetic. But Israel is very vulnerable to a well thought out fourth generation war, most of its economic assets are located in and around the Tel Aviv area, with the advent of Qassam rockets, Israel’s defensive lines have to incorporate most of the West Bank, these Qassams are so simple to make [even a schoolboy could make one] and impossible to defend against see link to "If Israel's eastern border becomes the 1967 line, this will enable terrorists to fire on the suburbs of Tel Aviv even without Katyusha rockets. And should Katyusha rockets arrive in the West Bank, no Israeli city will be immune from them. Since it is impossible for Israel to stop curved-trajectory fire from a territory that is no longer under its military control, sufficient distance is the only limiting factor preventing harm to Israeli population centres" Then if sufficient distance is required to stop these simple rockets what is to stop the resistance from smuggling them to within range or building them within that economic zone. It must be remembered the first Qassams where fabricated out of Israeli road signs. With growing missile technology Ben Gurion airport is extremely vulnerable and with it Israels economic future. Israeli economists were speculating about how long the last assault on Gaza could last if several rockets landed on Ben Gurion, whose closure even for a short time could devastate its economy.

    • This is an excellent article, setting out the logical options for the Palestinians, either resist or be over run with settlements. Resistance means suffering, Abbas wants to avoid that and seems reluctant to use the ICC option even now Palestine is a member state. How can asking an International court to prosecute individuals who you consider to have perpetrated war crimes against you be regarded as an act of resistance? But then how can co operating with those same individuals in the very war crimes you are complaining about be logical? At the moment Israel has the best of both worlds 1/ It is achieving its goal of a Greater Israel without much opposition from the West, or the Arabs 2/ The West is paying for it, EU and US handouts keep the whole shabang from collapsing and forcing the Israelis to shoulder the full costs of occupation, as they are required to do under International law. Why should Israel stop its crimes, it has no incentive to do so? It might appear that the Israelis want what they want more than the Palestinians want what they want, [Abbas at least] in that case there can only be one winner. Until the cost benefit analysis is reversed, and that can only be done by resistance with all options on the table, painful as that my be, things will only get worse for the Palestinians.

  • Dershowitz story is also an Israel story
    • Everybody lies.
      Cops lie. Lawyers lie. Witnesses lie. The victims lie.
      A trial is a contest of lies. And everybody in the courtroom knows this. The judge knows this. Even the jury knows this. They come into the building knowing they will be lied to. They take their seats in the box and agree to be lied to.
      The trick if you are sitting at the defense table is to be patient. To wait. Not for any lie. But for the one you can grab onto and forge like hot iron into a sharpened blade. You then use that blade to rip the case open and spill its guts out on the floor. A lawyer who had a large fish on the wall over his desk, the plaque said.. "If I’d Kept My Mouth Shut I Wouldn’t Be Here"
      Words to live by. Most criminal defendants talk their way into prison. Few talk their way out. The best single piece of advice I have ever given a client is to just keep your mouth shut. Talk to no one about your case, not even your own wife. You keep close counsel with yourself. You take the nickel and you live to fight another day. Sound advice Dershowitz has forgotten in his attempt to smear two respected lawyers, he's toast.

    • Epstein to commentators at Mondoweiss..."I don't think its nice you laughing, see my lawyer don't like people laughing, gets the crazy idea your laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know your going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it" Thanks to Clint Eastwood.

    • The Times reported that a letter released by the court last year showed Brad Edwards, Ms Roberts’s lawyer, telling the US attorney’s office that Epstein "may be the most dangerous sexual predator that the country has ever seen".

      Dated July 2008, the letter continued: "The evidence suggests that for at least four years he was sexually abusing as many as three to four girls a day.
      And for that the billionaire gets a sweetheart deal, serving just 13 months in a vacant wing of the Palm Beach stockade, and was out on work release six days a week for up to 16 hours a day. Sounds like a holiday.
      Meanwhile in California under the three strikes rule you can receive 2-25 to life sentences for various shoplifting charges. This is the American dream. You have to be asleep to believe it.

  • Dershowitz named in lawsuit alleging abuse of underage sex slave
    • 40 women have been paid off, the question is what have this group around Epstein been up to in the 5 years he has been out of jail? Leopards do not change their spots, hope more women come forward. By the way I have nothing against the Royal Family, but £22,000 for a chalet for 1 week in Switzerland. Blimey

    • The Dersh is a proven liar who also approves of judicially approved torture [sterile needles under fingernails etc] In this case I go along with what Karl Malden said to Marlon Brando in 'One eyed Jacks' "We are going to give you a fair trial, then we are going to hang you".

    • 40 women are alleged to have complained about Epstein all the complaints settled out of court, he then accepted a plea bargain. Bill Clinton was also named dozens of times in lawsuits against Epstein and was alleged to have flown on his private jet more than 10 times.

      Flight logs in lawsuits detailed that between 2002 and 2005 the former US President traveled around the world courtesy of his friend and stopped at Epstein’s Caribbean island Little St James where young girls were supposedly kept as sex slaves. link to

  • 'Spiral,' 'threat,' 'polarization,' or 'full-scale popular campaign for Palestinian freedom' -- reactions to the ICC move
    • In my opinion, as far as the UK goes, the only change to the law was to stop a private individual from seeking an arrest warrant, now the Attorney General in consultation with the Director of Public Prosecutions have to give their consent. Of course there will be no political considerations involved, you know separation of law cough cough, from the political process.

    • One problem I have with the Palestinian resistance is how ineffective it has been, I do not mean lack of bravery, of the 3/4,000 rockets fired from Gaza, hardly any hit an economic target of any value, non hit the hub of the Israeli economy Ben Gurion airport which if closed for even a short length of time would destroy confidence and cause billions of dollars loss to the economy [trade, tourism etc] The greatest boxer the world has produced Rocky Marciano also had the shortest reach of any heavyweight at the time [just like the short range home made Qassam rockets] in order for Marciano to deliver his famous Susie Q he had to get up close to his opponent, he certainly did not launch it from his stool. These home made rockets are so easy to produce and can be devastating if launched from the right range, I wonder why the resistance do not either make them in, or transport them to a more effective range?

  • Fireworks in Ramallah, as Abbas signs treaty to join International Criminal Court
    • Boomer, Sorry no reply facility on your comment above I am pretty sure there can be no veto by the UNSC on an investigation by the ICC, certainly not on an individual basis otherwise the US/Israel would not now be going ape shit about it. I appeal to the Palestinians to give both the exceptional nation, and the chosen nation, both barrels.

    • Netanyahu..."We will take steps in response and will defend the soldiers of the IDF, the most moral army in the world" Utter garbage. The indictments will be against the planners of the settlement enterprise, you know people who initiated it like Netanyahu and the other war criminals who went before him, and on an individual basis.

  • Palestinian resolution fails at the Security Council, U.S. votes against 'staged confrontation' at the UN
    • Israeli General Mandelblit said in a Wikileaks cable describing the Palestinians actions "as war to take us to the ICC" link to

    • CigarGod. How do the Palestinians "get their act together"? First by applying for membership in ALL the UN Agencies, just like their successful
      membership in UNESCO, second, apply to join the ICC as a full member then ask the Prosecutor to initiate an investigation into the situation in the OPT, including breaches of the Geneva convention Art 49 para 6 now also included in the Rome Statute Art 8 [2][b][8] " The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory". Thirdly the PA should act more like a resistance movement [non violent] and stop acting as an arm of the IDF, Obviously if the first two propositions were acted upon, the third one may not be necessary, but at least it would be a start.

    • The US/Israel are telling the world Palestinians cannot have a state without the permission of Israel and since Israel will not accept a proper Palestinian state, only a collection of bantustans surrounded by settlements, [if they are lucky.] Followed by a solution favoured by many Israeli politicians, transfer. Or maybe the one favoured by the US, and implemented by them not so long ago to solve "the Indian problem". Both solutions are not so far fetched because they are being carried out now in slow motion, unless the Palestinians get their act together the pace will quicken.

    • Stabbed in the back by Goodluck Johnathan, the Nigerian leader was on board the Palestinian resolution until half an hour before the vote, then after calls from Kerry and Netanyahu, changed his mind. I wonder why?

      link to

  • Report from Bethlehem: An American moment
    • Yes Henry I agree with you, under the law Obama cannot "look forward not backward" he has a duty to prosecute 'folks who tortured', failure to do so is a criminal offence in its own right.

    • Thanks for that link Mooser, Uri Avnery spells it out correctly...
      These, then, are the battle lines:

      A Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital, an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty, the end of the occupation, peace between Israel and the entire Arab and Muslim world, or a Greater Israel, continuous occupation or annexation, more settlements and ethnic cleansing, permanent war.

      Israel has to choose.

      So has the world.

  • Ads Against Apartheid hits LA with Mandela campaign
  • Jordanian-Palestinian resolution to the UN Security Council gives US and Israel wiggle room
    • They sure are a lunatic state. The Israeli intelligence minister describes as an “act of war” a Palestinian draft submitted to the UN Security Council to end Israeli occupation by the end of 2017. link to

  • U.S. seeks to counter Palestinian UN resolution with alternative offer, says French diplomat
    • Section 10 of the draft resolution calls for no illegal settlement activity, therein lies the problem, the Israelis do not consider the settlements illegal, therefore they will carry on building. This resolution will give them at least 2 more years, it was only recently the GOI said they aim for 1 million settlers in the West Bank in future years. Unless they are stopped, whether by BDS or through legal remedies via the ICC, or other means of resistance, nothing will change, correction, things will get worse for the Palestinians.

    • The Palestinians should only take the French resolution seriously when it is submitted by the "Catholic state of France". The only way a negotiating process will work is if there is a complete freeze on settlement expansion in all occupied territories, with action from the Security Council for breaching it. It will not happen of course, we will get the usual blather from the West, the Palestinians need to apply for full membership of the ICC and give Israel and the US both barrels, of course that probably won't happen either.

  • Palestinian UN effort seeks to set 'terms of reference' for negotiations and promote shift away from US leadership
    • Dr Shtayyeh said he welcomed the French proposals and that they were only minor. I disagree the French proposal is for a deadline of 2 years for an end to negotiations, remember the last one, 9 months. This will be another climb down by the PA leadership, the US have made it clear, no unilateral moves by either side will be tolerated, except of course continued settlement building. In my opinion the PA will fold, as usual.

  • We're all anti-American now
    • President Putin said it best in that op-ed in the New York Times . "And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

  • Saban confronts Bennett: 'Are you willing to cut commercial ties with Europe?'
  • In major shift, one third of Americans want US to push for one-state outcome in Israel/Palestine
    • "Omar Barghouti said at Columbia University the other night that an “absolute majority” of Palestinians, inside and outside the occupied territories, including the diaspora, would support a one state outcome". Where does he get those figures from? The only difference between Barghouti and Netanyahu and the one state solution is unequal rights for Palestinians. Short of the 'transfer' solution advocated by many in his party, Netanyahu would favor some convoluted constitutional arrangement whereby Israel would not relinquish its claim to sovereignty over the "Land of Israel" as he see's it, which would necessarily mean some kind of Bantustan model. One state with equal rights for all would be ideal, unfortunately we live in the real world, Israel will not agree to any solution whereby Palestinians will be able to outvote them [if not now, certainly within 10 years]. The Israelis are in a bind, the only policy they have at the moment is more violence and repression, they should have thought where this policy would lead after the 67 war, unless they can reverse policy now, which I don't think they are capable of, or have a mind to, the state of Israel is living on borrowed time.

  • AIPAC seeks to blow up negotiations between Iran and US
    • Congress has pushed through the US-Israeli Strategic Partnership Act this week, a bill which creates a new class of special ally within the law called a “major strategic partner,” which only Israel will occupy, link to It would be a good policy move for the US to have a league table of special partners, so that they would all be competing to knock Israel of the top spot. Remember France, [French fries to freedom fries] quite high up the league until the Iraq war then next minute on the bottom, then with plenty of grovelling are near the top again.

  • British MPs call for concrete action to sanction Israel
    • Some good contributions in that debate particularly from the Rt Hon Sir Alan Duncan and the Rt Hon George Galloway as usual, one excellent observation was by the Rt Hon Sir Gerald Kaufman: “My hon. Friend is absolutely right. You cannot appeal to the Israelis’ better nature, because they do not have one. You can, however, threaten”.
      The Rt Hon Hywel Williams said I was glad of the opportunity to restate Plaid Cymru’s position on the matter. I have also welcomed the decision by my local authority, Gwynedd county council, not to invest in or trade with Israel. He must be reading Mondoweiss and our own RoHa.

  • In mind-boggling contradiction, UNICEF Ambassador Robbie Williams books gig in Tel Aviv
    • Is Williams aware of the situation, if no, his public relations team/Agents surely are, and don't care, so should be fired. But we must wait for an explanation/ excuse. In view of the facts set out by Horizontal above, such an excuse would be wholly untenable.

  • Dempsey bucks Obama line by praising Israelis for Gaza tactics
    • The only problem with the Dahiya docrine is that the enemy will adopt the same tactics, only aimed at the vital infrastructure of the TelAviv area, including Ben Gurion Airport, and sea ports.
      The closure of which, for even relatively short periods would mean no more Israel. Hezbollah's leader Nazrallah , [not known for exaggeration] promised this in his latest speech. link to

    • Sorry wrong link above, here is the one I wanted to link link to

    • 500 dead children and what NGO's including Amnesty International call war crimes is what Dempsey is supporting, it is not surprising, the political elite and military leaders of Israel have war crimes as official policy. Known as the Dahiya doctrine after a suburb in Beirut was reduced to rubble Gabriel Siboni, a colonel in the reserves, set out the new “security concept” in an article published by Tel Aviv University’s Institute of National Security Studies two months before the assault on Gaza. Conventional military strategies for waging war against states and armies, he wrote, could not defeat sub-national resistance movements, such as Hizballah and Hamas, that have deep roots in the local population.
      The goal instead was to use “disproportionate force,” thereby “inflicting damage and meting out punishment to an extent that will demand long and expensive reconstruction processes.”
      Siboni identified the chief target of Israel’s rampages as “decision makers and the power elite,” including “economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the [enemy] organization.” link to

  • ICC believes Israel may have committed war crimes in flotilla attack, but not of 'sufficient gravity' to justify formal investigation
    • The ICC investigate 'situations', in the case of the Mavi Marmara the nine fatalities did not occur out of the blue, an investigation would have had to examine why and whether it was legal for the ship to be on its way to supply one and a half million people in the largest prison on earth and also whether the crew was entitled to put up resistance [the Israelis accused them of wielding iron bars etc]. The 'situation' did not involve just this incident, which did not occur in a vacuum, but involves a whole catalog of ongoing war crimes which the Prosecutor would need to look at as a whole, including this specific crime. In my opinion the Prosecutor has failed in her duty.

    • I believe this is the first time any country has been refused an investigation by the ICC, how many victims are necessary ? In the Rafic Harari case a tribunal was set up which in its remit spans continents, with a bottomless pit for expenditure, and is still running. Which bring to mind the quote...Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god.
      Jean Rostand, Thoughts of a Biologist (1939)

  • Root cause of current crisis is Israeli government effort since 1967 to transform East Jerusalem into a Jewish city
    • During the latest war crimes against Gaza, the Israelis wanted to deport Hamas officials from the West Bank to Gaza, they called in Professor Yoram Dinstein an acknowledged expert in International law it was reported that recent discussions held at the Israeli Ministry of Justice, with the participation of top experts in international law, concluded with the decision that "deportation is not possible", because such a step would put Israel in the dock at the International Criminal Court in the Hague. Not when you have a partner like Abbas who will do your bidding and has not, and probably will not approach the to

    • ICC Prosecutor said Abbas must sign on to membership of ICC before she can open an investigation, link to What is Abbas waiting for?

    • Abbas must share part of the responsibility for Israels actions, they act with impunity because they know the Palestinian leadership are politically bankrupt, last September when the ICC Prosecutor asked the Palestinian Foreign Minister if he was prepared to sign the necessary papers [which only he or Abbas had the authority to sign] to enable a possible investigation into Israeli war crimes , he refused, to the astonishment of the Prosecutor and her staff. link to

  • Chickenshitgate: A dissenting view
  • Ambassador Power to kick off 3-hour event on 'never-ending' genocide of Jews
    • There is also speculation in Jerusalem that the administration, unwilling to use its veto (which would be needed if nine Security Council members vote in favor), will propose to the Palestinians an alternative version of the draft resolution — one that would condemn Israeli settlement activity as illegal under international law. In the past, the US blocked such resolutions, but in the current climate it might well support one. Rumor has it that Washington and Ramallah are already in close contact regarding the wording of such a draft resolution. Hope the Palestinians don't fall for this bunkum there is already a UNSC resolution in force for this....
      UNSC-465: the two key provisions:
      5. Determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel’s policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;
      6. Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices and calls upon the Government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem; More on this at Peter Belmont’s blog here. link to

    • Its a pity the organizers could not find a place on the panel for poor Bernard Henry Levy, just expelled from Tunisia 24 hours after his arrival, after a storm of protests. link to Best news I've had in years.

    • Max Blumenthal tells us all we need to know about Samantha Power here..Inside a conference hall in June 2013, Power stood before 40 of the most influential members of America’s Jewish establishment and openly cried. Having just been nominated by Obama to serve as the US Ambassador to the UN, the far-right Zionist Organization of America had attacked her for her supposed compassion for Palestinians living under Israeli occupation. With her ambitions on the line, Power was determined to mollify the fanatics.

      Power “suddenly became deeply emotional and struggled to complete her presentation as she expressed how deeply such accusations had affected her,” recalled Shmuley Boteach, the right-wing celebrity rabbi she had courted as her consigliere. “Tears streamed down her cheeks and I think it fair to say that there was no one in the room who wasn’t deeply moved by this incredible display of pain and emotion.” link to

  • Ritualized Solidarity
    • What the Colonists did to the indigenous population in America, the Israelis hope to do in Palestine, the Colonists did not have to worry about International law, it did not exist, the same could be said today since the US almost, but not quite, has a veto on International law at the Security Council and will cover Israels annexation policy with that veto. The not quite part involves the ICC. the only venue the Palestinians have at this time to stop the settlement enterprise in its tracks, Incredibly the Palestinian leadership have not even joined the ICC, much to the bewilderment of the Prosecutor and her staff.

  • Loyola SJP investigation reflects double standard towards Palestinian voices on campus
    • Lieberman also said "Sweden 'needs to understand that relations in the Middle East are more complicated than a piece of furniture from IKEA that you assemble at home."
      To which Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallstrom tweeted "I'll happily send an IKEA flat pack for Avigdor Lieberman to assemble. He'll discover you need a partner, cooperation and a good manual. link to

    • The Israeli Foreign Ministry announced on Thursday that it has recalled the regime’s ambassador to Stockholm for consultations with regard to the Scandinavian country’s decision to recognize the state of Palestine.
      Meanwhile, the Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman lashed out at Sweden for what he called the “miserable decision that strengthens the extremist elements and Palestinian rejectionism.''

    • Suspending SJP will not only slice the stem of a just cause Suspending SJP will not only slice the stem of a just cause, the liberation of Palestine. I don't think so, it should do quite the opposite, this high handed attitude by the administration should galvanize SJP supporters to redouble their efforts, and ensure fairness. First thing to do hire a lawyer, or get one pro bono.
      Sweden has just officially recognized a Palestinian state link to

  • University of Exeter students vote to boycott Israeli settlement products in a landslide
    • Dr Ghada Karmi Honorary research fellow in the Institute of Arab and Islamic studies at Exeter University, must also have a huge influence, pity they did not vote to Boycott the whole of Israel, since it is the GoI which is responsible for the settlements.

  • Recognizing Palestine—and political reality
    • If its really a majority Jewish state the Israelis want, then one is on offer now, a state based on the green line would ensure a Jewish majority within the legal borders of Israel, and for the foreseeable future. unfortunately they want it all, in which case they will probably lose it all.

    • "By frustrating the two-state solution, they increase the likelihood of palpably worse alternatives. With their gazes riveted on a one-state utopia, they help create a bantustan". A bantustan is not the worst outcome, in my opinion expulsion is far more likely in the inevitable event that when Palestinians outnumber Israelis of Jewish origin the "Jewish state" will cease to exist, in theory this would be a good thing, but we live in the real world where a two state solution must precede [if one state is ever to come about] a one state alternative, and only on the basis of consent from both states. The International consensus is clear, there is no state or agency at the UN, nor any political party anywhere in the world, including in Palestine that favors a one state solution.

  • 'Settlement endorsement should be put on a par with racism, sexism, homophobia and anti-Semitism' --British pol
    • Introducing the Rt Hon Sir Alan Duncan MP KCMG. and the Rt Hon Sir Gerald Kaufman MP. Heh

    • walktallhangloose, It does not matter that Israel is not a member of the ICC, if a warrant was put out by the ICC for any Israeli Government Minister or anyone else involved with the well documented war crime of population transfers as detailed in article 49.6 of the Geneva conventions also incorporated as a war crime in the ICC statute, that person could be arrested in any of the other states who are also members of the ICC, under the rules of universal jurisdiction. As you say the political effect would be enormous, hence the panic [and threats] coming from Israel/US.

    • Sir Alan Duncan must be commended for this brave speech, the issue of the settlements go to the heart of the conflict, they are well documented war crimes. When the Bil'in village took up the case of settlement activity against Green Park International in the Canadian Superior Court of Quebec in 2009, the prosecution argued .."A war crime, to put it succinctly, is a very serious matter. Further, it is easy to see why the offence in question falls into this special category. Article 49(6) is essentially a law to prevent colonialism. One need look no further than the current condition of the indigenous peoples whose domain once spanned the entire expansive breadth of this continent to appreciate the gravity of the consequences territorial dispossession can inflict upon a population. Most war crimes deal with offences against individuals or groups of individuals, but the offence in Article 49(6) is one that threatens the integrity of an entire people. It clearly qualifies as an exceptional offence of higher order that is of grave concern to the global community as a whole". If Abbas was to join the ICC and the Prosecutor did investigate, one would think the ICC could only come to the considered opinion of all the Judges at the World Court [ICJ] and find the settlements breached paragraph 6 of article 49 Geneva Conventions, or in the US vernacular, slam dunk really.

  • Does 'the thief of Jerusalem' deserve US aid? (Update)
    • Annie, There is a panel at George Mason University on the ICC and Palestine on 20th October 2014, on operation protective edge: Legal and Political implications of ICC prosecution.
      With George Basharat, Noura Erakat, Kevin Jon Heller, David Lubin and Margaret DeGuzman. It will be live screened. Details to

  • Europe wearies of Netanyahu's diversions
  • As Kerry scrambles to prevent Palestinian action at UN, Israeli govt makes clear it will never accept Palestinian state
    • I agree with you Kay24, unfortunately winning a US election trumps Palestinian rights, only when big corporate interests and especially big AIPAC are separated in a fundamental way from the funding of both the Democratic and Republican parties will things change, I'm not holding my breath.

    • Netanyahu said the West Bank must always have IDF in it, [never ending occupation] This was because of Israels "narrow waist" and because most of Israels population and economic infrastructure was concentrated in such a small area and vulnerable to short range home made missiles etc.
      In a paper "Defensible borders for a lasting peace" here.. link to Maj-General Yaakov Amridror said.. just one mortar shell per week in the vicinity of Ben-Gurion International Airport will be enough to stop air transport completely. Without Israeli control of the relevant territory east of the 1967 line, there is no way the Israel Defense Forces can prevent such firing. Moreover, the introduction of shoulder-fired, anti-aircraft missiles in the hills dominating Ben-Gurion Airport would change the strategic equation completely. So strategic depth is required by Israel which can only be obtained according to these Generals, by Israels border being the Jordan river and the midway point of the Dead Sea. The Palestinians now know what they must do, I agree with Dan Crowther, apply to join the ICC and the UN Agencies together.

  • British Parliament sends a message to Obama: the people see Israel as a 'bully'
    • oldgeezer @ "Luckily Rifkind is wrong, out to lunch, on the wrong side of history" He is also completely out of touch with the realities of the situation, given that he can misinform the House thus. "We do not have a Palestinian Government; there are actually two Governments". Now its true he probably does not have an army of researchers, as he had when he was a high flying member of the cabinet. But surely he should know the Palestinians have had a unity Government since last June. One Government.

    • The UK Government would have accepted the Palestinians as a non member observer state in 2012, had Palestine given a commitment not to pursue "ICC jurisdiction over the occupied territories at this stage". The Palestinians rightly refused.

  • British Parliament to vote on recognition of Palestinian state on Monday
    • One of the arguments for the no side put by of all people Sir Malcolm Rifkind was that one of the reasons Palestine should not be recognized was because it had two governments, how can a senior Conservative with so much Government experience not know that the Palestinians formed a unity Government last June. Nobody pulled him up about it.

    • Former Foreign Office Minister Lady Warsi who resigned recently said in a withering critique of British foreign policy "the government had abdicated responsibility for driving the peace process and its diplomatic channels with Israel counted “for nothing”.
      “There is a lack of political will and our moral compass is missing,” the former Foreign Office minister told the Observer. “There are no negotiations, there is no show in town. Somehow we have to breathe new life into these negotiations, and one of the ways we can do that is by recognising the state of Palestine.” link to Don't know about breathing new life into further negotiations [flogging a dead horse would be more profitable]. But recognition of Palestine would be most helpful.

    • In my opinion and quite extraordinarily George Galloway intends to abstain in Monday’s vote on recognizing Palestinian statehood. “I continue to support the only realistic solution, one democratic and secular state, called Israel-Palestine or Palestine-Israel.”
      “The proposed two-state solution is to all intents and purposes dead and is only used in order to provide Israel further breathing space to consolidate the illegal settlements and expand its land grab further.”
      “For these reasons, I am afraid I cannot support this motion and will abstain on Monday.”
      George Galloway, MP for Bradford West,
      I think George Galloway is wrong here, can he name one state or other institution at the UN who supports “a one state solution?” Can he name one political party in the world including in Palestine which supports a one state solution? I certainly cannot. As an idealistic solution it is attractive, but as a practical and legal first step it is very problematical. All those resolutions at the UN called for self determination of the Palestinian people or for Israel to end the occupation of Palestinian land, they did not call for a one state solution, far from it, they envisage two states living side by side, Israel and Palestine, with equal rights for minorities in both states. This outcome [far off as it seems to be] is the preferred choice of the majority in the world including the Palestinians. I think George Galloway’s abstention is completely wrong and self indulgent. He must remember he was never a revolutionary and I think quite rightly believes in reform or one step at a time. In other words the Palestinians need statehood first, then they can approach the ICC and ICJ and apply to join all the other 60 odd? UN Agencies, their membership of UNESCO and other recent agencies and conventions point the way forward, the recognition of that fact is what prompted the Swedish government to recognize the state of Palestine, just as I hope the UK parliament does on Monday. All this is not to say a one state solution is out of the question, only that the Israelis fear a one state scenario more than a two state one and it is because of that possibility, expulsion would top Israels future agenda. In my opinion if the Palestinians could get a result at the ICC, [on population transfers] forcing the Israelis to stop settlement activity. Then without expansion the settlement would die a natural death. Galloway should think again, it may be a long time before the Palestinians achieve a victory on this scale.

    • In my opinion and quite extraordinarily George Galloway intends to abstain in Monday’s vote on recognizing Palestinian statehood. “I continue to support the only realistic solution, one democratic and secular state, called Israel-Palestine or Palestine-Israel.”
      “The proposed two-state solution is to all intents and purposes dead and is only used in order to provide Israel further breathing space to consolidate the illegal settlements and expand its land grab further.”
      “For these reasons, I am afraid I cannot support this motion and will abstain on Monday.”
      George Galloway, MP for Bradford West,
      I think George Galloway is wrong here, can he name one state or other institution at the UN who supports “a one state solution?” Can he name one political party in the world including in Palestine which supports a one state solution? I certainly cannot. As an idealistic solution it is attractive, but as a practical and legal first step it is very problematical. All those resolutions at the UN called for self determination of the Palestinian people or for Israel to end the occupation of Palestinian land, they did not call for a one state solution, far from it, they envisage two states living side by side, Israel and Palestine, with equal rights for minorities in both states. This outcome [far off as it seems to be] is the preferred choice of the majority in the world including the Palestinians. I think George Galloway’s abstention is completely wrong and self indulgent. He must remember he was never a revolutionary and I think quite rightly believes in reform or one step at a time. In other words the Palestinians need statehood first, then they can approach the ICC and ICJ and apply to join all the other 60 odd? UN Agencies, their membership of UNESCO and other recent agencies and conventions point the way forward, the recognition of that fact is what prompted the Swedish government to recognize the state of Palestine, just as I hope the UK parliament does on Monday. All this is not to say a one state solution is out of the question, only that the Israelis fear a one state scenario more than a two state one and it is because of that possibility, expulsion would top of Israels future agenda. In my opinion if the Palestinians could get a result at the ICC, [on population transfers] forcing the Israelis to stop settlement activity. Then without expansion the settlement would die a natural death. Galloway should think again, it may be a long time before the Palestinians achieve a victory on this scale.

  • It looks like Obama is checking out on Israel
    • Sorry about the double post, I had to fix the link which did not work in first comment.

    • "The European Union is inconspicuously but determinedly threatening to reevaluate bilateral ties with Israel if the Netanyahu government fails to make progress toward a two-state solution and continues its current policy of allowing construction beyond the pre-1967 lines". The labeling of products is mentioned in this times of Israel article here link to the EU argue that labeling legislation is in place, but it has not been enforced to date, lets hope they take action instead of just talking about it.

  • U.S. life insurance company underwrites Israeli colonel's talk on his army's 'moral high ground' in Gaza
    • Israels consistent policy in both Lebanon and Gaza has been the 'Dahiya doctrine' simply put..The strategy itself calls for the deliberate targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure in order to induce suffering and severe distress throughout the targeted population. By targeting indiscriminately, the IDF hopes to deter further military attacks against Israel, destroy its enemies, as well as influence the population to oust the militants seen as the primary target. This strategy has been confirmed by many Israel commanders and was ruthlessly used by this war criminal Bentzi Gruber the so called ethical expert, used by the insurance company in this article. link to

  • The Titanic of the occupation -- SodaStream (Update)
  • Sweden's recognition of Palestine will license activists
    • I understand your pessimism Kay but the issue of self determination is fundamental, it is not dependent on another state's approval, still less that approval being dependent on the outcome of a negotiating process, which by the way is not happening in any case. I suspect the UK vote will be in favor.

    • It ain't over till the fat lady sings, In a telephone conversation with Israel’s opposition leader Isaac Herzog, Lofven stressed that a Swedish recognition of Palestine would only be approved after rigorous talks on the matter with Israeli, Palestinian, and US officials, Haaretz reported.
      “We will not recognize Palestine as a state tomorrow morning,” he assured Herzog. “We want to speak beforehand with all relevant parties, including Israel, the Palestinians, the United States and other EU countries.” link to
      Just as interesting will be the UK Parliaments debate on recognition of the state of Palestine coming up later this month, the Labour opposition are on record as supporters of recognition, such recognition would go a long way in changing the Governments position.

  • TX congressman who expressed concern about Gaza deaths undergoes 'healing process' and will fly El Al to Israel
    • I wonder if they will give the Swedish Ambassador the treatment they gave the Turkish one, or Richard Falk who in his UN role as special Rapporteur on the Palestinian Territories was detained at Ben Gurion airport.."I was separated from my two UN companions who were allowed to enter Israel and taken to the airport detention facility a mile or so away. I was required to put all my bags and cell phone in a room and taken to a locked tiny room that smelled of urine and filth. It contained five other detainees and was an unwelcome invitation to claustrophobia. I spent the next 15 hours so confined, which amounted to a cram course on the miseries of prison life, including dirty sheets, inedible food and lights that were too bright or darkness controlled from the guard office." link to

  • Why must Gaza wait in the dark?
    • Israel as usual is trying to put a spoke in the wheel, insisting that all building material which has a dual use i.e, bricks and concrete should be monitored.. "That envisages “constant presence of the UN and daily inspections by a UN international staff member in the concrete mixing factory” as well as video monitoring of premises.
      Equally controversial for Palestinians is likely to be the requirement for homeowners needing building materials to register their ID number, address/locality [and] family status for a database that will be available to Israeli officials, including its intelligence agencies. link to
      No doubt Abbas will agree to it all. Some UN officials are saying it is putting the onus of the occupation and siege on the International community. Very clever of Israel.

  • Netanyahu's 'poison' -- latest settlement will distance Israel's closest allies, State Dep't warns
    • Horizontal @ "I don't think that closing the airport damaged the economy that much" I disagree, here is what Haaretz thought at the time.."Around 90 percent of all entrances and exits to Israel from abroad are through Ben-Gurion. This is one of the national infrastructure's most crucial links; Israel's oxygen tube reaching out of a hostile neighborhood. There have been a number of plans over the years to build a second international airport, but while there are a number of military and civil airfields with long enough runways, there is no airport today with the necessary facilities and transport links to replace Ben-Gurion for more than a few hours.
      This may prove to be a game-changer in a conflict which is now entering its third week. It could provide further impetus for the government in seeking a speedy ceasefire with Hamas, but that seems doubtful." link to And that was just one wayward rocket, it is operationally possible for the resistance with the right logistics to target Ben Gurion with several rockets per day and keep it closed for months, in my opinion a definite game changer.

    • The Israelis have no intention of ever withdrawing from the West Bank,defense Minister Ya'alon said that because 80% of Israel commerce and millions of Israelis live in the metropolitan Tel-Aviv area, including the vital economic hub of Ben Gurion airport, it would be suicidal for the occupation to end, exposing the vitals of Israel to not just rockets but mortars, particularly directed at Ben Gurion airport, well within range [approx 5 miles from West Bank border] of the least sophisticated and shortest range home made rockets, his fear was that military air bases of Ramat David in the Galillee and Nevatim in the Northern Negev could come under threat from anti aircraft to Of course he is quite right, the military advantages Israel has accumulated cannot outweigh the disadvantages of having all your assets including economic ones within such a strategically small area and vulnerable to a determined resistance group. In the last confrontation Hamas fired 4,000 rockets at Israel [most of them wasted blowing up the desert] with just one wayward one landing 1 mile from the airport, this was enough to close the airport down for a short period and with it the Israeli economy. The Palestinian resistance ability to destroy Israels vital economic interests will only grow, time sensible Israelis try to cut a deal.

  • Netanyahu at the United Nations: Hamas, Iran, ISIS and 100 cheering Israelis
    • One phrase in Natanyahu's speech captures what this dispute is all about.. "The people of Israel are not occupiers in the Land of Israel". Sorry, the rest of the world thinks you are, even the US will admit the settlements are illegitimate.

  • 'Tip of the BDS iceberg': Kuwait excludes Veolia from $750m contract
    • Danaa "Veolia is a good step, however,what about intel planning to spend $6Bin Israel?" The difference, as you imply is that Veolia are operating in occupied territory, whereas Intel would be operating in Israel proper. I agree that all of Israel should be Boycotted, and there should be no investments in any part of Israel or occupied territory, but that is an uphill battle. For instance Abbas said in South Africa recently we do not want any company to Boycott Israel, only those companies operating in occupied territory, in my opinion Abbas is the worst leader any occupied country could have, but if Abbas and Co cannot be convinced, why should big multinationals?

  • Palestinian problem is central to region but Israelis control U.S. policy -- Brahimi
    • Brahimi speaking truth to power, at his age there is nothing they can do to him, I thought he lost credibility when he wanted Assad to step down, virtually supporting the Syrian opposition, still, I fully agree with his assessment of the US/Israel relationship.
      For those who find the latest middle east war confusing here is a summary from a comment in Moon of Alabama.."ARE you confused about what's going on in the Middle East? Allow me to explain.
      We support the Iraqi government in the fight against the Islamic State. We don't like IS, but IS is supported by Saudi Arabia, whom we do like.
      We don't like President Assad in Syria. We support the fight against him, but not IS, which is also fighting against him.
      We don't like Iran, but Iran supports the Iraqi government against IS. So, some of our friends support our enemies and some of our enemies are our friends, and some of our enemies are fighting against our other enemies, whom we want to lose, but we don't want our enemies who are fighting our other enemies to win.
      If the people we want to defeat are defeated, they might be replaced by people we like even less. And all this was started by us invading a country to drive out terrorists who surely actually they're to begin with until we went in to drive them out". Do you understand now?

  • Abbas calls on UN Security Council to end the occupation
    • More on President Abbas stopping the complaint at the ICC, to the astonishment of the ICC Prosecutor here. link to

    • The notion that Israel is going to talk about final status positions is absurd, they have failed to talk about them for the past 20 years, far better for them to continue the talks i.e, the annexation process, it is obvious the Palestinian leadership do not have a coherent plan of action, they seem to be waiting for something to turn up, it will, in the form of thousands of new settlements. If I were a Zionist I would be laughing at the antics of Abbas and Co. In his speech Abbas said Israel wants to see the Palestinians in isolated ghettos, in my opinion the Palestinians will be lucky to get that so long as Abbas keeps deferring to his masters in US/Israel. Because Abbas continues looking to start further futile negotiations while refusing to join all the UN Agencies and the ICC, the Palestinians suffering will continue link to

  • Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders get off Israel bandwagon, for once
    • Abbas is no different than all the other Sunni despots in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, there was no mention of applying to join the ICC in his speech to the UN, indeed his Foreign Minister Riad Maliki was sent to the ICC in the Hague recently specifically to stop a complaint initiated by the Palestinian Justice Minister Saleem Al-Saqqa, apparently only the Palestinian President or Foreign Minister have the authority under the ICC rules to initiate a complaint, when the ICC Prosecutor asked Maliki [as the competent official] to legitimize the complaint, to the astonishment of the ICC officials, he refused to do so. When all factions of the Palestinians including Hamas want to join the ICC, when all those NGO's [including a recent call from the Russell Tribunal] to join the ICC with the utmost urgency, his refusal to do so proves that Abbas is all talk and no action, how can the Palestinians put up with such a collaborator? link to

    • All the things Abbas has said he would do if the UNSC do not agree to the ending of the occupation within a time frame of 3 years, are legally, morally and above all politically necessary, indeed a duty which the Palestinian leadership must not be blackmailed into abandoning. Applying for membership of the UN Agencies and the ICC are political actions which should have been taken as soon as Palestine was recognized [officially by the UNGA and UNESCO] as a state. Netanyahu has declared that there cannot be a separate Palestinian state between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean, that being the case Abbas trying to negotiate one is futile. As the Prosecutor at the ICC said "the ball is in Abbas' court" he needs to take action, otherwise the Palestinians have no hope.

  • West Bank settlers exporting dates labelled as 'Made in Palestine'
    • The Middle East Monitors view attached to the first piece by Kate is misleading "In the beginning of 2014, the European Union announced its decision to boycott economic, scientific and academic relations with institutions, factories and farms that have any investments or presence in the Israeli settlements established in the occupied Palestinian territories". When they say Boycott, they do not mean the banning of products, they simply mean no European money should be invested in illegal settlement projects, which is not quite the same thing, wish that it were. The simple repackaging cleaning and sorting does not of course qualify for inclusion in the tax exempt status of the dates. Under protocol 4 of the EU-Israel Association Agreement article 2 [b] states, .. products obtained in land which contain materials not wholly obtained there, provided that the said materials have undergone sufficient working or processing in Israel . And in article 6 The following operations shall be considered insufficient working or processing to confer the status of originating products. 6[a] [b] [c] [d] [e][f] operations to ensure preservation of products , simple operations like sorting or classifying , changes of packaging, simple mixing of products or assembly of parts to make a complete product etc ect.

  • Jodi Rudoren effectively annexes Golan Heights to Israel
    • Below is part of a letter I received from The Department of Environment Food and Rural Affairs UK [DEFRA] in reply to my complaint that Golan Heights Winery label their wines [which are wholly produced and harvested in the Golan Heights] as "Wine of Israel" and "Produced by Golan Heights Winery Katzrin, Israel" in breach of Article 55 of European Union Regulation 607/2009. [County of origin must always be shown on the label]. " I note your concerns centre on the fact that this wine, imported by Hatov Ltd, is misleading to the consumer as it indicates on the label that it is ‘produce of Israel’, yet comes from grapes grown in the Golan Heights. In addition the wine labels show that they are produced at the Golan Heights Winery, Katzrin, which as you say is in the Golan Heights.

      The Food Standards Agency have informed me that although they recognise some inconsistencies in the labelling of the wine, they consider that the numerous references to the Golan Heights on the label would be sufficient to ensure that consumers would probably not be misled about the wine’s provenance".
      There you have it from a UK Government Department, a false country of origin is only an inconsistency.

  • Yale official barred discussion of Israeli settlements and apartheid at monthly meeting
    • Chaplain Shipman is right to invoke the scourge McCarthyism, Let us not assassinate this chaplain further. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

  • US guilty of war crimes in Palestine
    • "as long as global enforcement mechanisms of accountability are denied Palestinians due to the political whims of a superpower" Sam I think you need to look a little closer to home, when Saleem Al-Saqqa Palestinian Justice Minister put in a complaint to the ICC on 30th July 2014, Abbas sent his Minister of Foreign Affairs Riad Maliki to the ICC, the representatives of the ICC's jaws dropped when the Minister was asked whether this complaint had the endorsement of Abbas or himself a necessary precondition for a states complaint to go forward, he refused to give the consent. WHY. link to

  • Israeli Supreme Court upholds law allowing housing discrimination against Palestinians
  • Senator Warren's progressive supporters demand accountability for her rightwing pro-Israel positioning
    • Warren should say, hey you guys, being progressive on Israel/Palestine i.e, follow International law is all very well, but it ain't going to get me elected, I need lots of campaign cash. Unfortunately those are the rules of the game, until those rules are changed Politicians like Warren will toe line.

  • Yale president's office was involved from the gitgo in blowup over Yale chaplain's letter
    • Lysias - If he was not invited surely this would breach the rules of natural justice?.....

      The Rules of natural justice are derived from Roman law.

      The Romans believed certain basic fundamental legal principles to be self evident truths.
      Simply put the rules of natural justice relate to fairness: they exist to protect the fair dealing with individuals who find themselves before a court, tribunal or any hearing to whose judgement an individual is subject. In any instance of anyone being before a hearing the individual has a right to be heard. This is often called audi alteram partem. Thus, if a student is being subjected to a plagiarism hearing for example then the student has a right to make representations. Linked To this Right is the right to be informed beforehand of the allegations against him or her. The Other key rule from which the others are derived is nemo judex in parte sua (no ‐ One can judge their own case).

    • To assert that the Israeli Government's policies in occupied Palestine over the past 47 years, particularly its recent aggression, has contributed to a rise in antisemitism in Europe is surely just stating a fact, although most people would say it has nothing to do with antisemitism but anti Zionism, conflating the two are used by dishonest people to tar people like the good Chaplain Shipman.

  • Ohio student leader's dramatic act for Gaza
    • An excellent action by Megan Maizec, hope it goes viral, Tom Heyes letter to the Athens Ohio Messenger was superb especially his put down of Rabbi Leshaw asking her to resign and find a more suitable place for her views "A segregated Jews-only university in an illegal Israeli settlement might be a good fit".

  • Three ways Palestinians can hold Israel accountable for Gaza war crimes
    • Hamas has already said they support an application to join the ICC, they do not fear prosecutions. In fact all Palestinian factions have voted to join the court, only Abbas acting like a dictator he is refuses to join.

    • Alex mentioned Doron Almog, his case is instructive, Almog arrived at Heath row airport, earlier Daniel Machova [Solicitor] had taken out a private summons to have the General arrested on war crimes charges, Almog was tipped off and refused to leave the Israeli plane. The UK police could have boarded the plane or stopped it taking off, instead the police commander fearing an armed confrontation with air marshals or Almog's security team allowed the plane to return to Israel. Later the UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw apologized to the Israeli government link to Now of course the UK has changed its rules on Universal Jurisdiction

  • Israel and the law -- the views of three international jurists
    • Abbas said recently "I don't like to go to the courts". "I don't like courts". and "I want to solve my problems directly between the parties". That's alright for him to say on a purely personal basis, but he is supposed to represent millions of Palestinians who have been subject to a long list of war crimes, including murder and crimes against humanity, it is his duty to bring those responsible to justice, he will not of course, so he must step aside. Why Palestinians put up with the fool only they can say.

  • 'Provocative political symbol' -- UEFA fines clubs when fans fly Palestinian flags
    • Unbeflippinbelievable, How can this rule be upheld, if England [Union Jack or St George's Cross] played Scotland [the Saltire] at this time with the independence vote coming up, all these flags "could" be making a political statement. The key to this is if that Dutch club or any club are fined for waving the Israeli flag, somehow I don't think they will be.

  • 'It's 120 years that the world has opposed our construction, and we'll continue to do it': Naftali Bennett defends Israeli settlement expansion
    • The question Bennett needs to answer is what he plans to do with the Palestinian populations in both Gaza and the West Bank who together with those resident in Israel are numerically equal to Israelis of Jewish origin now, and are projected to be a majority in 10 years time?

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