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  • International law, the United Nations and Palestine
    • How can any of this be seen as consistent with international law? Answer, it can't, but that does not matter for the United States who, along with their friends are, at any given moment in time above International Law for all time. When the architecture for the United Nations was put in place by the US/UK, Stalin accepted it with the knowledge that the USSR would also have veto power on any Resolutions, France was added to balance out China. In the event that any group or Individual state should gang up on another member[s] of the five then the veto is used and that Resolution goes down the memory hole, it might be embarrassing, but that's all it is. This was the reason the coalition of the willing US/UK was able to use aggression against Iraq without France, Russia or China being able to do anything about it. [see http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/iraq/ags-legal-advice.pdf ]. How about the International Court of Justice [ICJ] in the Hague] same thing, ignore any judgement [see Nicaragua v USA ICJ] As for the ICC the 'Hague invasion act' should take care of that...The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the "Hague invasion clause," has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands. https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law. Depressing is it not. It would appear the US [like Israel, Netanyahu did say Israel will live by the sword] want a world where might is right, that may work for a time, or until another state or group of states come along [think Russia, China and Iran] to disabuse them of that notion.

  • Before there was 'fake news' there was Judith Miller
    • Maybe there is a medical condition associated with this woman's lack of awareness. Someone should remind her that before she goes to sleep tonight, just remember the one million dead and the grieving millions her lies caused. But then her condition might mean she also does not care.

  • 'Constructed crisis for political ends': anti-Semitism claims are prime weapon for UK Israel lobby, Al Jazeera shows
    • Michael Foster doner of £400,000 to the Labour Party was eventually suspended from the Party for calling Corbyn supporters Nazi storm troopers. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-donor-michael-foster-suspended-8811755

    • There is no Anti-Semitism in Britain, Jerry Lewis .... when police were called to University College London to investigate disturbances, Lewis admits they were caused by Jewish extremists paid for by they Israeli government putting Jewish students at risk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvF9Z3gjI3g

    • According to many Israeli supporters Anti-Semitism is defined thus: "I think if it makes you feel uncomfortable, I think that's the point which you call it out and report it, and that's why Joan convinced me to report the one yesterday because I was made to feel uncomfortable, and although nothing anti-Semitic was said I'm sure there were undertones of it and it was brought up on that context." In other words criticism of Israeli Government war crimes including settlement building could be construed as Anti-Semitic, if the recipient of the criticism feels uncomfortable. Which they obviously would.
      Ilan Pappe said "They are really scratching the bottom of the barrel to make a list of two and a half cases of anti-Semitism … they themselves are not totally sure that they fall into their own strict definition of anti-Semitism."
      Pappe added: "It's in a way pathetic, but it's also worrying how such pathetic evidence can be used to intimidate Jeremy Corbyn into establishing an inquiry commission and making daily confessions that he's not anti-Semitic and so on." My only complaint with Corbyn is he did not fight the charges vigorously enough, he knows what's going on.
      During that Labour Party Conference in Liverpool Professor Jonathan Rosenhead had this to say on Antisemitism .
      “In response to a moral panic about Left anti-Semitism seemingly expanding without limit, the group Free Speech on Israel coalesced in April out of a loosely-knit band of Jewish Labour Party supporters. Some 15 of us got together at a couple of days’ notice for the inaugural gathering. We found that over our lifetimes we could muster only a handful of antisemitic experiences between us. And, crucially, although in aggregate we had hundreds of years of Labour Party membership, no single one of us had ever experienced an incident of antisemitism in the Party.
      Some time in May the ex-Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks was interviewed on Radio 4 about the antisemitism ‘crisis’ by now gripping the nation. Helpfully his interviewer invited him to share some of his own personal experiences of antisemitism. His response, from memory ran rather like this: “Well….actually I have never experienced antisemitism myself. Which is odd, because most people know that the Chief Rabbi is Jewish”. https://www.opendemocracy.net/jonathan-rosenhead/jackie-walker-suspense-mystery

  • Almost 1 million Syrian children can't go to school
    • Annie, This Aljazeera piece said over 1 and half million "Ehden, Lebanon - More than 1.5 million Syrian refugees have made Lebanon their temporary home, but now, newly elected President Michel Aoun is vowing to send them back to their country, still in the throes of a civil war with no end in sight.

      "There will be no solution in Syria without the return of the Syrian refugees to their country," Aoun said in his inaugural speech this week. "The issue of the Syrian refugees should be resolved as soon as possible." http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/11/syrian-refugees-war-crackdown-lebanon-161102173130178.html
      More information about those bastions of democracy Saudi Arabia has 100,000 empty tents with air conditioning with accommodation for 3 million refugees. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/saudi-arabia-100000-empty-tents-ac-3-million-people-refugees/ ZERO Syrians.

    • Commendable article, Those refugees in Lebanon are a direct result of the US and GCC states regime change machinations against Syria initiated before 2011 by US Ambassador Robert Ford.
      "Robert Ford was US Ambassador to Syria when the revolt against Syrian president Assad was launched. He not only was a chief architect of regime change in Syria, but actively worked with rebels to aid their overthrow of the Syrian government.
      Ford assured us that those taking up arms to overthrow the Syrian government were simply moderates and democrats seeking to change Syria’s autocratic system. Anyone pointing out the obviously Islamist extremist nature of the rebellion and the foreign funding and backing for the jihadists was written off as an Assad apologist or worse"
      http://www.globalresearch.ca/you-wont-believe-what-former-us-ambassador-robert-s-ford-said-about-al-qaedas-syrian-allies/5504906

      It should not be forgotten the number of Syrian refugees in Lebanon is over 1 and a half million, a quarter of the total population, how would the US electorate act if 80 million refugess came to the US within a short space of time? Also one of the causes of the carnage in Syria, and major funder of the Wahhabi head choppers is Saudi Arabia. Do you know how many Syrian refugees the Saudis billionaires have taken in? None.

  • To be successful the French Peace Initiative must be based on international law and human rights
    • " Palestinians cannot be expected to return to the negotiating table while Israel continues to act with impunity and the world stands idly by". The problem is that the Palestinian leadership have returned to the negotiating table time and again for the past 20 odd years. Whose fault is that? The US/Israel having fooled Abbas many times expect [with good reason] to do it again. All Israeli leaders just want time to implement their schemes. The settlement enterprise, according to the UNSC and the International Court of Justice [ICJ] are illegitimate / unlawful, but the UNSC will not take action [US veto] and the ICJ action was only an opinion. What we are left with is the action at the ICC, the only body in the International arena which has the capacity to prosecute the Israeli leadership, why is not more pressure put on the ICC in the Hague to expedite the case on this crucial question? Last I heard it could take 12 years to bring the case to trial, if it ever gets there. Ridiculous!

  • Origins of a golden shower
    • You are presuming I am not part of the 1%, I have never received a golden shower but I have unfortunately been shat on many times. My initial comment was a snark. Love your work.

    • Definite snark, must confess purloined from Craig Murray blog "Given Trump’s wealth and history, I think we can say with confidence that he has indulged whatever his sexual preferences might be all over the world and not just in Russia. It seems most improbable he would succumb to blackmail over it and not brazen it out. I suppose it could be taken as the sole example of trickledown theory actually working". https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/hitler-diaries-mark-ii-hope-changed-mattress/

    • Katie, I think you misunderstand or are very naughty, what's happened here is that Trump's idea of capitalism is that if the rich get richer then the 99% inevitably benefit Trump's economic theory is used to describe the belief that if high income earners gain an increase in salary, then everyone in the economy will benefit as their increased income and wealth filter through to all sections in society. Its called the trickle down effect.

  • Why Israel wants us to say 'terror'
    • The problem here is that many in the Israeli government do not think they are occupiers, they think the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] are sovereign Israeli territory, even when the Israeli Supreme court have on numerous occasions ruled that the West Bank is occupied territory.
      This is the crux of the matter, if it is not occupied territory then ipso facto it is an act of terrorism, or it is possible to argue that it is. If it is occupied territory [as every country in the World thinks it is] then it is not terrorism. The UN General assembly acknowledges this "among these legal forms of violence there is also the right to use force in the struggle for “liberation from colonial and foreign domination”. To quote United Nations General Assembly Resolution A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978:

      “2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;” (3)

      This justification for legitimate armed resistance has been specifically applied to the Palestinian struggle repeatedly. To quote General Assembly Resolution A/RES/3246 (XXIX) of 29 November 1974:

      3. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples’ struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle; …
      7. Strongly condemns all Governments which do not recognize the right to self-determination and independence of peoples under colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation, notably the peoples of Africa and the Palestinian people" https://electronicintifada.net/content/palestine-legitimate-armed-resistance-vs-terrorism/5084

  • US watched ISIS rise in Syria and hoped to 'manage' it -- Kerry on leaked tape
    • Of course this is not just about Syria, the real prize is Iran, who just happen to be the leaders of the 'arc of extremism'' or as I prefer the 'arc of resistance'. Syria is but the low hanging fruit, on route to taking out Hezbollah, the Jihadis hate Hezbollah [Shia] with a vengeance and they have promised to destroy them after the fall of Assad, hence Hezbollah's entry into Syria, the defeat of the head choppers is existential for them. The defeat of Assad therefore in geo-strategic terms is simple, it had to be simple because George Bush put forward the plan backed by Saudia Arabia and Israel and described by Seymore Hersh in the 'Redirection' here http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection He describes how backing the Sunni against the Shia would empower the GCC states [who are but vassals to the US] and solidify US hegenomy in the region for generations to come. Enter Russia to foil the plan, now it is easy to see why the US is going ape shit, all their regime change scheming is coming to nought, they have backed the wrong side again. In my opinion Iran, if need be, could, and would field millions of Iranian troops into Syria to ensure it is only Syrians who can decide the fate of Syria, and not the sectarian GCC states plus Turkey ganging up against Syria with the assistance of the Neocon policies of the US, the Russians and Chinese agree with that.

    • Of course the US regime change operation in Syria has been ongoing since well before 2011.
      More e mails ....
      Robert Ford was US Ambassador to Syria when the revolt against Syrian president Assad was launched. He not only was a chief architect of regime change in Syria, but actively worked with rebels to aid their overthrow of the Syrian government.
      Ford assured us that those taking up arms to overthrow the Syrian government were simply moderates and democrats seeking to change Syria’s autocratic system. Anyone pointing out the obviously Islamist extremist nature of the rebellion and the foreign funding and backing for the jihadists was written off as an Assad apologist or worse.
      Then late last year the McClatchy News Service ran an article in which Ambassador Ford admitted that his “moderates” regularly collaborated with ISIS and al-Qaeda to the point where he no longer thought the US government should be arming them.
      So those who pointed out that the rebellion in Syria was foreign-driven and jihadist from the start were no longer crazy conspiracy theorists, but were rather conspiracy factists.
      http://www.globalresearch.ca/you-wont-believe-what-former-us-ambassador-robert-s-ford-said-about-al-qaedas-syrian-allies/5504906

    • eljay, "Russia (allegedly) attempts to influence one American election outcome and the U.S. hypocritically is beside itself with moral outrage". It was the Democratic Party leadership that maliciously influenced the US elections and shot themselves in both feet as revealed in the Podesta e mails 1/ Denigrating Bernie Sanders in favour of Clinton 2/ Having the debating questions given to Clinton ahead of the debates by Donna Brazile a commentator at CNN. At the time, Brazile was vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), which should be neutral during the primary. She has since become the acting DNC chair, after Debbie Wasserman Schultz was forced to step down amid a separate leak of internal DNC emails, which appeared to show DNC staffers favouring Clinton over Sanders. 3/ Revealing some of the content of speeches to the Wall St banks where she said she had a public and a private position on these institutions. 4/ No fly zones over Syria, which could have resulted in WW3.
      This whole "Russia did it" episode is a tactic to deflect from the true wreckers of the US electoral process, the Democratic Party Leadership.

    • This is a good article, for Syria watchers the fact that the US has used Islamic state for its regime change purposes is irrefutable, this was obvious when Islamic state traversed hundreds of miles between Syria and Iraq in thousands of new pick up trucks kicking up hundreds of tons of dust on their way to take Ramadi and Mosul. Did the US see them with all their drones and satellites in space which can read a cars number plate, no, or rather yes but they needed to pressure the Iraqi government you see, so they did nothing. Similarly they watched thousands of Islamic state oil tankers take stolen oil from Syria to Turkey to fund more terrorism. It was only when Russia shamed the US with such aerial photos that the US had to take action.
      Assad has huge popular support in Syria, Russian, Iranian and Lebanese support is within International law, the US has no right to be in Syria and the arming of terrorists to effect regime change is both a war crime and contrary to the UN Charter. Once again the US is on the wrong side of history, when will they ever learn? One important note, the secular Assad government has the support of Syrians of every religious persuasion and most of the Sunni majority, because the opposition comprise mainly Jihadis who do not believe in democracy, any overthrow of Assad would mean the expulsion or death of the Syrian minorities.

  • Israel-Palestine conflict could 'explode' under Donald Trump, Israel supporter warns
    • Trump may regret wanting Netanyahu to be one of his first visitors. He will want assurances that the US Embassy will be moved to Jerusalem, thereby enraging 1 and a half billion Muslims, and he will want Trump to fulfill his promise to renegotiate the Iran Agreement, thereby enraging the rest of the world. What could go wrong? King Bibi knows he has more support in Congress than Trump, I imagine Congress would sooner inaugurate Netanyahu, his ego is so large he would probably accept.

  • Getting away with murder: the Elor Azarya 'manslaughter' case
  • In 'breathtaking' UN vote, Obama changed his policy on Israeli settlements, making them a war crime -- Finkelstein
    • Here is the present day 'Buck Turgidson' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvVrQqU1Gwc
      I think this person is a raging lunatic who should be locked up for his own and our safety.

    • This comment in the Intercept [sorry cannot remember name] is so good and I agree with It so much I must reproduce it here, hope he/she does not mind.
      "Since WW11, a large part of the American raison d'etre has been to stop Russia, fight Russia-even, 'destroy Russia'. I'm talking about the media, education system, it's political machinery, and of course, it's vast war machine, aka the Military Industrial Complex.
      America spent 5 decades focusing on this battle with the Soviet Union, and when the USSR actually collapsed; I saw dismay and confusion, not happiness.
      "We have no enemy now! No threat! No purpose in life!" The tears were real.
      They tried terrorism, as the 'threat'- but their 'enemy' was laughably weak, ineffectual, and perhaps worst of all, hardly required the construction of nuclear powered aircraft carriers, or missile subs to defeat.
      So for a time Russia was 'okay' as long as it was red misting Chetchen's, but when Putin reared his head over Palin's back yard and began to make Russia strong again? Game on!
      Cold war is back and this is on purpose. Hot war very possible, by accident, but also because there are those [See: General Buck Turgidson] who fervently wish for the final battle. These are people who genuinely believe that a nuclear exchange that destroys Russia and only kills 30% of Americans and half their industrial capacity is a "win".

    • JLewisDickerson, thanks for your excellent comment, I thought the same thing when I read the professors article.

    • brent, Professor Finkelstein in another article said South Africa was liberated with support from its surrounding states indeed almost the whole of Africa, it could be said that the Palestinian leadership are putting all their eggs into the Saudi and other GCC countries basket, when in fact the 'robed ones' dictatorial powers are dependent on US military protection [think, the mafia]. In my opinion these medieval satraps are on the wrong side of history, whatever anyone thinks of the 'arc of resistance Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon backed by Russia and to a lessor extent China, they all conduct elections, so their leadership is legitimate [unlike the US best friends Saudi Arabia where even to talk about elections can lose you your head. The Palestinians need the assistance of the 'arc of resistance' they have said they are willing to give it. Clearly the Palestinians cannot do it alone, witness the 7,000 rockets fired on Israel in the latest massacre, they caused little damage, most falling harmlessly in the desert, whereas Israel caused 8 billion dollars worth of damage including the loss of 20,000 homes. Similarly, however brave those Palestinian youths are, it is beyond foolish to throw stones at heavily armed troops sheltered behind tanks with protective uniforms on, with the instructions to 'shoot to kill stone throwers'.

    • mcohen. The Israeli squatters were not invited into the West Bank, they are, whether they or you like it or not, accessories to war crimes, with different degrees of culpability [obviously some do it to find cheap accommodation these people could be excused] but not others who do it for political reasons for instance the Yesha council leaders should be indicted along with Netanyahu for war crimes as detailed in article 49.6 of the Geneva Conventions, and the Rome statute of the ICC.
      "A lot of infrastructure was handed over to Gazans" Wrong! Gush Katif (Hebrew: גוש קטיף‎, lit. Harvest Bloc) was a bloc of 17 Israeli settlements in the southern Gaza strip. In August 2005, the Israeli army carried out the Cabinet's decision and forcibly removed the 8,600 residents of Gush Katif from their homes. Their communities were demolished as part of Israel's unilateral disengagement from the Gaza Strip. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gush_Katif

    • JWalters. I agree, the most important thing a politician has to do in life is win elections, they cannot do that in the US without money. The Jewish Chronicle reports this weekend that the “five biggest donors to Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign are all Jewish.”

      Donald Sussman, hedge fund Manager;

      Jay Robert Pritzker venture Capitalist

      Haim Saban, Israeli-American media tycoon

      George Soros, speculator

      Daniel Abraham, founder of SlimFast

      So are their GOP rivals top two. http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-donors-filling-candidates-war-chests-especially-clintons/
      I don't see how Israel can be projecting US strength into the Middle East, since in the wars the US were/are involved in, they make sure Israel is not overtly implicated. {The kiss of death].

    • Keith I agree. "Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman said “The people who have spent eight years in the White House are not an administration – they are a group of foreign policy losers, embittered and shortsighted. Today, Obama officially proved this.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/30/russia-plans-immediate-counter-measures-us-diplomats
      By the way have you checked under your bed lately, I found two reds under my bed and a third trying to get through my cat flap.

    • The Palestinian leadership must take significant blame for the increase in the settlement enterprise since the Oslo Accords, for these reasons, since the 1949 Geneva Conventions made transferring Nationals of the occupying state into occupied territory a grave war crime, and since many UNSC resolutions since 1967 concurred with that fact [see Resolution 465, 1980, in my comment above] This is fundamental to the whole issue, so crucial in fact that these arguments were put to a Quebec court several years ago.. in the Quebec court case Bil'in and Yassin v Green Park International Ltd the claimants put forward this reason for why the settlement enterprise was a war crime...
      "A war crime, to put it succinctly, is a very serious matter. Further, it is easy to see why the offence in question falls into this special category. Article 49(6) is essentially a law to prevent colonialism. One need look no further than the current condition of the indigenous peoples whose domain once spanned the entire expansive breadth of this continent to appreciate the gravity of the consequences territorial dispossession can inflict upon a population. Most war crimes deal with offences against individuals or groups of individuals, but the offence in Article 49(6) is one that threatens the integrity of an entire people. It clearly qualifies as an exceptional offence of higher order that is of grave concern to the global community as a whole".http://www.thecourt.ca/2009/10/bilin-and-yassin-v-green-park-international-ltd-quebec-court-acknowledges-war-crimes-as-potential-basis-for-civil-liability-claim-ultimately-fails-on-forum-non-conveniens/
      Who could disagree with that? When the Oslo Accords were signed it has been suggested that the issue of settlement expansion was not documented, if that is the case the status quo should have been insisted on, which could only mean a stop to building new settlements as per UNSC Resolutions. The fact is that at no time from day one of the accords till 20 plus years later did Israel stop building. Imagine this analogy, a Landlord rents out one of his properties to a tenant and 20 years later he has still not received his 1st weeks rent, who would be the fool in that situation? I know Abbas is paid very well to be Israels enforcer in the West Bank, but come on, be serious. When the Israeli Government enabled the first Israeli family to breach International law on day one of the accords and Abbas did nothing, the Israelis knew they were pushing on an open door.

    • "and the dismantlement of all settlement outposts erected since
      March 2001" This clause in Resolution 2334 is a significant walk back from Resolution 465 [1980]. In my opinion the UNSC will veto any attempt to enforce any measures to back up this latest Resolution. Although the PA has lodged a complaint with the ICC, it only backdates it to 2014?? It is the single legal hope the Palestinians can cling to, it is to be hoped the Prosecutor [now conducting a preliminary investigation]is not influenced by political considerations or threats from the usual quarters.

    • Article 49 paragraph 6 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions classifies a war crime thus.."The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its
      own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
      The International criminal court act UK 2001 (article 8 2b[viii]):-
      The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the occupying power of parts of its own civilian population in to the Territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied Territory within or outside this Territory.
      Both Legal definitions [which are plain] of war crimes do not stipulate that the crime has to be 'flagrant'.

      "The Oslo accord said you can’t alter the demographic character but it didn’t explicitly mention building new settlements".
      Because the building of new settlements is a war crime, it should go without saying that they would not mention them. The settlements would obviously alter the demographic character of the occupied territories.
      As regards the latest UNSC Resolution it differs little from UNSC 465 [1980] in one important respect it calls for dismantling the existing settlements...here..

      UNSC Res 465 (1980), recalling that the USA did not veto this, determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel’s policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the fourth Geneva Convention relative to the protection of civilian persons in time of war and also constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
      Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices and calls upon the government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem. [Cited UNSC Res 465 (1980)]
      Unlike the latest Resolution, 465 [1980] Calls for the dismantling of the existing settlements.
      Professor Finkelstein is correct to criticize the dysfunctional Arab league,
      Fortunately the balance of power is shifting away from the medieval terrorist supporting satraps of the GCC countries led by Saudi Arabia. The 'Arc of resistance' led by Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and possibly Egypt backed by Russia will acquire hegemony in the region, then Netanyahu's pledge to forever live by the sword, will be tested.

  • Love in the age of Trump
    • just, "He's certifiable" I agree, or he has not thought through, or more likely, refuses to blurt out the 'final solution' [transfer] which he has in mind. Then he said, “I do not believe in a second Palestinian state beyond what we have in Gaza,” Is he unaware Palestine is already a state [including Gaza] which has been recognized by an overwhelming number of states at the United Nations? With leaders like Bennett and Netanyahu, Israel faces a grim future.

    • One and a half million British citizens of the UK of GB and NI could of course vote for NI based sectarian parties, but were unable to vote for the parties that actually governed them at Westminster, because the Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem parties refused to contest elections or give membership to anyone resident in NI, those parties alone, or in coalitions made legislation for taxation the NHS and all the other legislative measures only the Government of the UK, state could make. The bottom line was, if you could not vote for or against the parties that govern you, you effectively had no vote.

    • How much longer can the pretence of a Jewish democracy last when the Settlements become annexed but equal rights remain forbidden? Why should Jewish citizens of Israel worry about a Jewish democracy since the US is best friends with all the "Democracies" in the GCC countries? I suspect Israel will continue to colonize area C but refuse to formally annex it, [there are not many Palestinians living there in any case] It is possible areas A and B will be offered some kind of autonomy, without sovereignty of course [sovereignty of any part of the West Bank] will not be given away by any Israeli Government. This will rightly be refused by the PA, leading to the inevitable train crash ahead. But let us assume democratic rights are given to the 2 and a half million Palestinians in the West Bank, it would still mean an approximate 60% Jewish, 40% Palestinian make up in the 'Land of Israel'. How Gaza would figure into this calculation is unknown since Israel [nor Egypt] want nearly 2 million Palestinians. It must be remembered that one of the oldest democracies in the world, the United Kingdom, actually governed one of its constituent parts, Northern Ireland without giving the one and a half people living there the vote, [please understand that because the ruling Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem parties in Westminster refused to contest any seats in the Province or allow membership in their parties, nobody in the Province had a say in who governed them, hence no vote]. The one state solution including Gaza would not be countenanced by Israel, since although it is a perfectly democratic solution, it would mean the end of the strangely named 'Jewish and Democratic ' state dream. Incidentally Professor Finkelstein thinks people who advocate a single state are 'insane'. It would appear Bantustans with no sovereignty, surrounded by settlements is all that will be offered to the Palestinians, until outside forces [the International community] find the political will to bring sanctions, failing that, the forces gathering in the region Iran, Iraq, Syria, Hezbollah, Yemen and possibly Egypt backed by Russia could threaten military pressure.

  • Alan Dershowitz has threatened to leave the Democratic Party if Keith Ellison becomes chair
    • oldgeezer, here is something else Dershowitz favours. Dershowitz published an article in The San Francisco Chronicle entitled "Want to Torture? Get a Warrant," in which he advocated the issuance of warrants permitting the torture of terrorism suspects, if there were an "absolute need to obtain immediate information in order to save lives coupled with probable cause that the suspect had such information and is unwilling to reveal it." He argued that authorities should be permitted to use non-lethal torture in a "ticking time bomb scenario,"
      Sterile needles under fingernails etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz Dersh the compassionate liberal.

  • A bi-national, democratic state is the only option Israel and Kerry has left us with
    • Sibiriak. Too true, Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister declared on 22 May 2015 just after her appointment, She wants a Greater Israel encompassing the present
      Israel plus the West Bank she delivered a speech to Israeli diplomats, justifying this on the grounds that God had promised the land of Israel to the Jews and asserting:
      “This land is ours. All of it is ours. We did not come here to apologize for that.” http://www.sadaka.ie/Articles/Briefings/BRIEFING-Two-state-solution-dead-without-sanctions-against-Israel.pdf

    • just, "What the heck is Fatou Bensouda and her ICC doing???" Good question,

      The ICC are at present conducting a preliminary investigation and recently put out a report... "Another issue where Bensouda took the Palestinians’ side is regarding Jerusalem’s status.

      She mentioned Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem, as she had in her 2015 report, but for the first time added, “The UN Security Council and International Court of Justice, among others, have regarded the annexation of east Jerusalem as a violation of the jus cogens norm prohibiting the acquisition of territory by military force.”

      While it is unclear what impact her statement about Jerusalem’s status will have on the war crimes examinations, it may show her leaning toward viewing Israel’s settlement enterprise as illegal as much of the world does, and perhaps even as war crimes.

      Whether settlements built since June 2014, the start of the period Bensouda is examining, constitute war crimes is a central issue of the ICC probe. The Palestinians say they are war crimes while Israel argues that they are disputed areas whose status can only be resolved by negotiations between the parties". http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/New-ICC-report-takes-Palestinians-side-despite-Israeli-optimism-472856

  • Israeli hysteria over UN vote is solidifying country's new status, as a rogue state
  • Netanyahu ignored US warnings and brought Israel's 'international isolation' on itself -- Ben Rhodes
    • john O, Just think of it, a nation of 8 million people laying down the law to the Ambassadors of 15 UNSC members, total populations over 2 and a quarter billion. that is chutzpah.

    • "It may be the beginning of the end for Israel". Maybe but Netanyahu is fighting back “I instructed the foreign ministry to complete within a month a re-evaluation of all our contacts with the United Nations, including the Israeli funding of UN institutions and the presence of UN representatives in Israel,” Netanyahu said on Saturday.
      Israel rejects 'shameful' UN resolution amid criticism of Netanyahu

      “I have already instructed to stop about 30m shekels (£6.3m) in funding to five UN institutions, five bodies, that are especially hostile to Israel … and there is more to come,” he said. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/24/israel-reassess-ties-united-nations-settlement-benjamin-netanyahu
      Oh! my God, he is going to bring down the United Nations, he has delusions of grandeur, does he realize non payment of dues only results in no voting rights in those Agencies.
      One can only hope the heads of all the Agencies tell Netanyahu, 'go ahead make my day'.

  • Breaking: UN Security Council passes historic resolution against settlements as two-state solution 'slips away'
    • Poor Shmuley Boteach he had so much faith in Samantha Power [Mother Teresa] remember this "And in the presence of the leaders of our community, she suddenly became deeply emotional and struggled to complete her presentation as she expressed how deeply such accusations had affected her. Tears streamed down her cheeks and I think it fair to say that there was no one in the room who wasn’t deeply moved by this incredible display of pain and emotion".
      http://mondoweiss.net/2013/06/education-samantha-power/ Now Samantha is on her way out and no longer needs 'the lobby', she slides the knife in like a good assassin or should I say scorpion. She is still a nasty piece of work, I can almost feel sorry for Shmuley. NAH.

    • Bennett said "if you raise your hand or remain silent in the vote against Israel, you're supporting the forces of terror", Therefore he accuses the US of supporting terror.
      Then he said "We are fighting for the free world, yet the free world is gathering to condemn us…” Correction, 'you' [Israel] are fighting the free world, and the unfree world, since no other Nation at the United Nations support you. Your on your own Bennett.

  • 'Guardian' newspaper fails to support colleague facing deportation threat from Israeli government
    • chet, how are they able to wield such disproportionate influence. Peter Oborne leading UK Journalist did a Dispatches programme for channel 4 'Inside Britains Israel lobby' here.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lby-BP5xVRI

    • straightline, I agree with you, no comment from me which refers to ethnic cleansing gets printed, the editor is Kath Viner "outside journalism Viner is known for My Name Is Rachel Corrie, a play she co-edited with actor Alan Rickman from the writings and emails of Rachel Corrie, an American activist who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israeli Army in Rafah, Gaza in 2003.[32][33] The play was first performed at the Royal Court Theatre in 2005".
      Freedland is a nasty piece of work. Norman Finkelstein had some choice words about him here.... We appeared on a television program together. Before the program, he approached me to shake my hand. When I refused, he reacted in stunned silence. Why wouldn’t I shake his hand? He couldn’t comprehend it. It tells you something about these dull-witted creeps. The smears, the slanders – for them, it’s all in a day’s work. Why should anyone get agitated? Later, on the program, it was pointed out that the Guardian, where he worked, had serialised The Holocaust Industry across two issues. He was asked by the presenter, if my book was the equivalent of Mein Kampf, would he resign from the paper? Of course not. Didn’t the presenter get that it’s all a game?

      Freedland had already made himself appear ridiculous by contributing easily debunked falsehoods to the ‘antisemitism’ smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn. Now he was exposed as a revolting hypocrite. http://normanfinkelstein.com/2016/05/27/jonathan-freedland-keeps-digging-how-low-will-he-go/

  • Desperate Netanyahu lectures Obama about US responsibility to veto UN resolution
    • "he has been able to do nothing to stop them" Correction, he has preferred to do nothing, for political expediency sake. Then Dershowitz said, “You’re equating Israel to apartheid South Africa.” “No I’m not,” Beinart said". Beinart was quite right not to equate Israel with South Africa, Ronnie Kasrils former South African Minister said Israel is far worse than South Africa ever was [he should know]. Trump was way out of order here. Obama may be an empty suit, but he is still the man who should call the shots.

  • With US reportedly poised to abstain on U.N. resolution slamming Israel, Egyptians withdraw it under pressure
    • Notice Al-Ansari said, "the totalitarian government of Iran.” that's rich coming from the medieval 7th century head choppers and their Wahabbi form of Sharia law as practiced by Islamic State in Syria, you just could not make this stuff up.

    • kalithea.. "and the effing Arab League has to think about this???" Unfortunately the Arab league is the joke of the century, they couldn't agree on what color curtains to hang at their HQ. Most members are either bought and paid for by the strong arm tactics of the US, combined with the financial bribery of Saudi Arabia. I would go as far as to say the Saudis are in bed with the Israelis, both on the basis of their fear of Iran and the growing 'arc of resistance' Iran, Syria, Lebanon [Hezbollah] Iraq, Yemen,and possibly Egypt and Libya, they think their collective security is enhanced with an alliance against Iran. The survival of the Saudi family dynasty is more important to them than the Palestinians. Salman Al-Ansari President of the Saudi American Public Affairs committee in Washington said.."Israel, he noted, was “one of the most sophisticated and technologically advanced countries in the field of mining,” as well as “a world leader in the water engineering industry” — both matters of significant interest to the developing Arab Kingdom.
      Al-Ansari stressed that the two nations share security concerns, with both “facing constant threats from extremist groups that are directly supported by the totalitarian government of Iran.”
      Israel and Saudi Arabia, he argued, could serve as “the new twin pillars of regional stability,”
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi-lobbyist-in-us-urges-collaberative-alliance-with-israel/ Time is running out for the Saudis as it is for US hegemony in the region. Only when it does will Israel be forced by those changing circumstances to come to a reasonable negotiated settlement. Failure to do so will mean the end of Israel.

    • Sorry, This comment should have gone into the Wikileaks James North and Phil Weiss article.

    • I think this little quip via Christine C Holmer is brilliant.. “Julian [Assange] posted Clinton Podesta truth’s and fucked Hillary in a non consensual way and politically unrecoverable way. That is nothing but good”. Those other emails revealed regime change machinations in Syria in 2011 and before..
      "Ambassador Ford talked himself blue in the face reassuring us that he was only supporting moderates in Syria. As evidence mounted that the recipients of the largesse doled out by Washington was going to jihadist groups, Ford finally admitted early last year that most of the moderates he backed were fighting alongside ISIS and al-Qaeda. Witness this incredible Twitter exchange with then-ex Ambassador Ford:"
      http://www.globalresearch.ca/you-wont-believe-what-former-us-ambassador-robert-s-ford-said-about-al-qaedas-syrian-allies/5504906

  • Hell just froze over: the New York Times runs an article saying Zionism is racist
  • Stephen Cohen calls out liberal media for demonizing Russia, slurring Tillerson and stigmatizing all dissent
    • yourstruly, detente with Russia would mean a multi polar world, something the US elites do not want. Hence the military build up in Eastern Europe and the pivot to the South China seas.
      The global order is slowly changing with Chinese economic growth and its partnership with Russia and the BRICS. Trump recognizes these facts and is [hopefully] not going to confront them militarily, rather by concluding 'deals', which he claims will be to the US advantage and which, because he is a financial wizard will 'make America great again'. Certainly he was right on one thing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have been total disasters which according to Linda Bilmes at the Kennedy Law School, Harvard University will have cost [projected costs] the US economy six trillion dollars, $6, 000,000,000,000. Enough Trump said to rebuild the infrastructure of the US twice over.

    • Craig Murray friend of Julian Assange said
      "CIA's Russia hacking claims dismissed as 'bulls***' by former UK ambassador Craig Murray
      'I know who leaked them. I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack" http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/cias-russia-hacking-claims-dismissed-as-bulls-by-former-uk-ambassador-craig-murray-35288057.html Trump said it could be some 400 lb person sitting on a bed, which when you think about it, does not totally exonerate himself as the Manchurian candidate.
      The US political class have lost their minds. "Have You Left No Sense of Decency Sir?"

  • Theresa May adopts a definition of anti-Semitism that demonizes Israel's critics
    • The Hebrew Encyclopedia defines anti- Semitism as all manifestations of hatred and racism directed against Semites. The Fact is that anti-Semitism also comprises all manifestations of hatred and racism directed against all Semites including Arabs. I would like to make three points.

      1/ Zionists have manipulated Semitic ethnicity so as to apply to Jews alone, enabling them to level the allegation of anti-Semitism against Arabs in spite of the fact that they [Arabs] constitute the majority of the Semitic peoples.

      2/ the label "anti-Semitic" has acquired enormous deterrent power and is used as a political tool by Zionists.

      3/ Now confident in having monopolized the term Semites, they can abuse that term by calling anyone an "anti-Semite" who criticize Israel, Zionist leaders are free to mouth the most racist abuse against others i.e, Eyelet Shaked.

    • On 26 May 2016, the Plenary in Bucharest decided to:
      Adopt the following non legally binding working definition of antisemitism:
      “Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred
      toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed
      toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish
      community institutions and religious facilities.” https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/sites/default/files/press_release_document_antisemitism.pdf
      So when the Israli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked said..
      "This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. . . the people who started the war, that whole people, is the enemy. . . including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.
      And the morality of war knows that it is not possible to refrain from hurting enemy civilians.
      Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there".
      What is this statement,she is threatening non Jews with death she is being Anti Semitic since Palestinians are also Semites. Should we petition Teresa May to ban the Israeli Justice Minister from the UK, as not being conducive to the Public good?

  • Israel advocates worry Trump's pick for State has anti-Israel bias
    • The sad part is many in the US believe it, [like WMD], H L Mencken once said "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people". Oh, by the way I'm from the UK.

    • iResistDe4iAm, These bantustans could never be economically viable in any case, they would at best be prisons surrounded by settlements and barbed wire. They would of course be well furnished prisons, funded by EU/US aid money, but only provided the Palestinians did not resist or incite, then they would receive the Gaza treatment, and get their lawns mowed, after all the Israelis 'have the right to defend themselves'. That is not to say some Palestinians would not acquiesce in some constitutional monstrosity such as bantustans, in this link Ramzy Baroud thinks Fatah, the Palestinian body politic is rotten to the core http://original.antiwar.com/ramzy-baroud/2016/12/08/hold-applause-fatah-palestinian-body-politic-rotten-core/ I think it was Professor Finkelstein who said a few years ago, perhaps uncharitably, that Abbas would settle for a s--t house in the desert so long as he could put a Palestinian flag on it.

    • Marnie, I like that Texas phrase, but I agree with Annie 'Bomber Bolton' will not make it, Rand Paul is dead set against him, I suspect Paul will 'dry gulch' him when the committee meet.

    • Annie, sorry I did not open your link since I thought it was purely concerned with global warming and fracking, not unimportant of course but not on my immediate radar at the moment. Interesting link, thanks.

    • Thank's gamal, I also enjoyed the video after that with Michel Kilo one of Syria's leading opposition thinkers who thought the Saudi leadership is mentally impaired. He is right there.
      I would like to see the Houthis get armed to the teeth by the resistance, then regime change that medieval bunch of scumbags and half men in Saudi Arabia.

    • McCain's hatred for Putin is legendary, this is what he said on the current hacking controversy "But Vladimir Putin is a thug, a bully and a murderer and anybody else who describes him as anything else is lying," the Washington Examiner reported him saying. Several years ago Putin had a go at McCain saying "He spent years in a pit in Vietnam, anyone would go nuts after that".
      He's right McCain is nuts, but McCain has enormous influence on the committee responsible for approving Secretary of State.

    • Surprised you didn't mention Russia Annie. "In 2013, President Vladimir Putin presented Tillerson with the Order of Friendship, one of the highest honors a foreigner may be awarded from Russia".https://www.rt.com/usa/370009-rex-tillerson-putin-connection/ He will face opposition from Russia haters Lindsey Graham and the rabid John McCain, but you are right why should a tiny state of 8 million people decide the foreign policy of the United States. Or in the words of US President Bill Clinton in 1996 after being lectured by Netenyahu on the Middle East "Who the fuck does he think he is? Who's the fucking superpower here?" Well we all know the answer to that.

    • Bolton, "I propose what I call a three-state solution, that’s wildly unpopular as well, giving Gaza to Egypt, dividing the West Bank and returning sovereignty of part of it to Jordan. I’m told that it’s not workable because the Egyptians don’t want Gaza and the Jordanians don’t want part of the West Bank". That's right, its a non starter, also dividing the West Bank and giving sovereignty to Jordan is not acceptable to Israel because, according to Israel the whole of the West Bank is part of the historic "Land of Israel" and they would not contemplate giving it away. The balance of forces in the Middle East are changing, when the Syrians defeat the combined forces of the West, Saudi Arabia/Qatar and Turkey, and that's only a matter of time, the 'Arc of resistance' Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Yemen and possibly Egypt backed by Russia and to a lesser extent China will mean a far more reduced US influence in the region and therefore a more circumspect Israel, aware of the growing military might of their adversaries. Even the smallest of the Groups mentioned above, Hezbollah, have a stockpile of over 100,000 rockets, many with GPS, targeting Israels vital infrastructure [care of Iran] When that dawns on them they may be open to a real two state solution.

  • Adelson delivered! Now it's Trump's turn
    • Strange that the US criticize the Iranian election process whereby the Guardian Council have to approve all candidates for election. In the US unless you can raise millions, usually through individual billionaires with agendas, you can forget it. America truly has the best electoral system, that money can buy.

  • I hereby chuck my right to Jewish national self-determination
    • Jewish National self determination was granted in 1948, on borders set by the United Nations and agreed to by the new Israeli Government led by Ben Gurion.
      Paragraph 13 of the Declaration provides that the State of Israel would be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex;.
      The fact that Israel has unilaterally extended its borders contrary to International Law and continues to do so with impunity, puts its long term existence in jeopardy. Because the UNSC is unwilling to put a stop to this state of affairs, and the Palestinians don't have the power to do so. One can only assume that the train crash such a blinkered approach entails, will in fact happen, to the detriment of everyone.

  • More than half of US aid 'to entire world' goes to Israel and it ignores our warnings on settlements -- Kerry
    • The Europeans seem just as unwilling to confront reality as the US regarding the settlement enterprise. "Such a bill [legislation before the Knesset] violates international law," he said, adding Israel would undermine its commitment to finding a "two-state solution" - a Palestinian state in territory Israel captured in a 1967 war - if the bill were passed.
      Asked whether Germany and the European Union should punish Israel with economic or diplomatic sanctions, the spokesman said: "We don't think that sanctions would be the right path in this case to make headway in the Middle East peace process." http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/germany-israeli-bill-violates-international-law-161207134344500.html It is difficult to imagine what other war crimes the state of Israel is allowed to commit before 'any' action is taken. Israel is the 'Wests' child, [the black sheep maybe] but no one is allowed to 'take punitive action against a member of our family.

  • New anti-Semitism legislation may stifle campus activism for Palestinian rights
    • The EU's definition of anti-semitsm has not been adopted, "the Jewish Telegraphic Agency yesterday cited remarks by FRA [EU's fundamental rights agency] spokesperson Blanca Tapia, who stated that the agency’s staff “are not aware of any official definition [of anti-Semitism],” that the document had “never” been viewed “as a valid definition” by the FRA and that “the agency does not need to develop its own definition of anti-Semitism in order to research these issues.”

      It seems the penny has dropped even for groups like Honest Reporting, which have confessed that the “disappearance and disavowal of the definition” by the FRA does somewhat undermine “the validity” of a petition they had only recently launched, calling for the media to adopt the definition.

      Yet the definition was long ago discredited, with those doing serious anti-racism work at the FRA clear it was not fit for purpose. That was what a senior FRA official told me for an article I published in The Electronic Intifada in September 2012". https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ben-white/israel-lobbyists-finally-concede-eu-has-ditched-anti-semitism-definition

  • Tulsi Gabbard's screw-the-neocons meeting with Trump sparks anger, derision, encouragement
    • Elizabeth Block, here is a list of US regime changes since the second world war..
      Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

      China 1949 to early 1960s
      Albania 1949-53
      East Germany 1950s
      Iran 1953 *
      Guatemala 1954 *
      Costa Rica mid-1950s
      Syria 1956-7
      Egypt 1957
      Indonesia 1957-8
      British Guiana 1953-64 *
      Iraq 1963 *
      North Vietnam 1945-73
      Cambodia 1955-70 *
      Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
      Ecuador 1960-63 *
      Congo 1960 *
      France 1965
      Brazil 1962-64 *
      Dominican Republic 1963 *
      Cuba 1959 to present
      Bolivia 1964 *
      Indonesia 1965 *
      Ghana 1966 *
      Chile 1964-73 *
      Greece 1967 *
      Costa Rica 1970-71
      Bolivia 1971 *
      Australia 1973-75 *
      Angola 1975, 1980s
      Zaire 1975
      Portugal 1974-76 *
      Jamaica 1976-80 *
      Seychelles 1979-81
      Chad 1981-82 *
      Grenada 1983 *
      South Yemen 1982-84
      Suriname 1982-84
      Fiji 1987 *
      Libya 1980s
      Nicaragua 1981-90 *
      Panama 1989 *
      Bulgaria 1990 *
      Albania 1991 *
      Iraq 1991
      Afghanistan 1980s *
      Somalia 1993
      Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
      Ecuador 2000 *
      Afghanistan 2001 *
      Venezuela 2002 *
      Iraq 2003 *
      Haiti 2004 *
      Somalia 2007 to present
      Honduras 2009
      Libya 2011 *
      Syria 2012
      Ukraine 2014 *

      Q: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?

      A: Because there’s no American embassy there.
      https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
      And that was only since the end of the 2nd World War.
      The US government are involved up to their necks in Syrian regime change, the only reason it will not succeed is because Russia wants International law to apply and for the Syrian people alone to decide Syria's future, not the "democrats" of Saudi Arabia or Qatar.

    • Gabbard talks sense on Syria, Trump has also spoken of helping Russia get rid of the Wahhabi and other Jihadi head choppers. Just common sense really. However if the Neocons get their way in Syria [regime change] then not only would the UN Charter 2[4] have been thrown out, it would mean confronting not only Syria but Russia, Iran and possibly China in a nuclear standoff. Of course both Israel and Saudi Arabia also want regime change in Syria, Israel because it covets the Golan Heights, Saudi Arabia because it wants to be the Hegemon [Sunni] in the region. Syria is an important member of the so called 'arc of extremism' or, as I prefer, 'arc of resistance'. [who would not want to resist Israel/Saudi Arabia]. There are only two choices in Syria 1/ Support the legitimate secular Government of Assad or 2/ Support the Jihadis who regard anyone not like them as worthy of death.

  • Sanders says fight among Democrats is to go 'beyond identity politics' and stand for all working people
    • I agree with Sanders, here in the UK the first person to challenge J Corbyn was Angela Eagle who described herself as a working class woman from the North of England, [so vote for me the first woman leader of the party]. That is simply not good enough, what are her policies? Well for a start she supported the Iraq war, then she voted twice against having an inquiry into it. She was considered to be a right wing Blair supporter. Let us suppose, in an imaginary scenario, a male candidate opposed her, and he happened to be a wealthy ex member of the landed gentry, someone like Tony Benn unfortunately now deceased [formally Lord Stansgate ] It goes without saying that in 'identity' politics the membership would choose the 'woman from the North' even though she espoused right wing views, and reject someone like Tony Benn, who had supported Corbyn for many years and was far more in tune with the Labour party membership.

  • If American universities ignore attacks on Muslim students, who will defend them?
    • Thanks for the link Annie, I think the issue here is that one of the students concerned Robert Gardner was legally threatened by Horowitz because he told the truth, as was his constitutional right [confirmed, inter alia by the University, and the Southern Poverty Law center]. Whereas Horowitz is telling bald faced lies [defamation] and has been criticized by those same organizations for doing so.

    • Surely, if the posters are clearly defamatory as the University allege, then a case for defamation could be made out against the Horowitz "Freedom Centre" after all he takes full responsibility for the posters..."When The Maroon spoke with David Horowitz, he declined to name any individuals".
      “I’m not going to tell you that,” Horowitz said, “These college administrations are coddling these terrorists. [The posters have] probably been torn down by campus administrators already. It’s a free speech issue. There is no law about campus posters. It’s a disgrace to the University. I take full responsibility for posting them.”
      Unless people start fighting back, legally, things will only get worse. A false claim of anti semitism can lead to a person losing his/her job, a further false claim of supporting terrorism could not only ostracize that person from the community, but also endanger their life.

  • We are in an era of conservative counter-revolution
    • Its "The economy, stupid", which James Carville had coined as a campaign strategist of Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against sitting president George H. W. Bush.
      Trump has promised to bring back jobs for the working class, Chomsky said this appeal should not be underestimated since their wages [and jobs] have been in stagnation since the 70's. Throw in his justified claim that the Afghan and Iraq wars combined costs [taking into account long term injury and compensation claims] are 6 Trillion dollars $6,000,000,000,000 [Linda Bilmes, Kennedy Law School, Harvard University. Enough, he quite rightly said. to rebuild the United States twice over. Oh, and add in that he was going to make the US great again [a little bit of exceptionalism which even Obama believes in] plus the worst possible Democratic candidate a war Goddess and Wall Street Shill [she said, we must confront Russia and China and make them pay a price, and she would 'obliterate' Iran] and there you have a potent brew, his win was inevitable.

  • Where do we go from here? Our thoughts & yours on the US election
    • According to a rough demographic count there are 1.5 million and 2.8 million Palestinians in Israel and the West Bank respectively, as against approx 6 million people of Jewish origin in Israel, not sure if that includes the settlers in the West Bank including East Jerusalem. A Jewish majority of approx 1.7 million. That is the most benign scenario one state solution Zionists envisage, of course Palestinians would have to be second class citizens. Another Israeli solution could be self governing Bantustans with no sovereignty [it is the "land of Israel" after all] surrounded by Israel settlements and barbed wire. A "Gaza solution" for Palestinians in the West Bank. Maybe they think they can get away with it?

    • shakur420, Excellent comment, Professor Finkelstein has the same opinion, he said in Dublin recently, people who advocate a one state solution make no sense, they are insane and live in another time warp..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS4eBHz2wEU In the one state argument's defence they are only articulating a rapidly approaching scenario whereby facts on the ground and the 'Wests' indifference to them [and to a large extent the GCC countries plus Egypt and Turkey making overtures to Israel regardless it seems of what they do] encourages Israel to press on with their crimes. Unfortunately the one state solution envisaged by Israel involves a greater Israel including the West Bank and Golan Heights with as few Palestinians as possible, hence decades more violence and oppression. Professor Finkelstein in that Dublin talk said Apartheid in South Africa was only brought to an end by the combined forces of the whole continent of Africa with significant support of world opinion. In that case black South Africans outnumbered whites 10 to 1 how much more difficult will it be when in the proposed one state scenario envisaged by a number of Israeli one state zealots, people of Jewish origin will actually outnumber Palestinians [for a time at least] not forgetting the right of return and the almost 2 million Palestinians in Gaza [which Israel does not want] throws more confusion into one state solution.

    • Many people thought Trumps foreign policy was correct, this is what he said just before the election...Donald Trump repeated his call to "drain the swamp," knocking the "failed elites in Washington" for being wrong about everything from foreign policy to health care.

      "The people opposing us are the same people — and think of this — who’ve wasted $6 trillion on wars in the Middle East — we could have rebuilt our country twice — that have produced only more terrorism, more death, and more suffering – imagine if that money had been spent at home," Trump said at a Oct. 26 rally in Charlotte, N.C.

      "We’ve spent $6 trillion, lost thousands of lives," Trump said. "You could say hundreds of thousands of lives, because look at the other side also." http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/27/donald-trump/did-us-spend-6-trillion-middle-east-wars/
      Linda Bilmes in her study of the Afghan and Iraq wars at the Kennedy Law School [Harvard University] agrees with that figure].
      He also wants Russia and the US to team up to destroy Islamic State, and to friendly relations with both Russia and China. What could be better?
      Hillary wanted to confront both whilst trying to regime change Syria by backing the head choppers, and no fly zones. Such a disastrous policy could only end with WW3.
      I for one am glad Clinton has not won, she of the status quo, more war and more corruption. Will Trump be worse, who knows?

  • New Lebanon president says: refugees not welcome
    • Annie. For another take on US involvement in Syria, Robert F Kennedy Jnr penned this excellent and wide ranging article. In it he argues that one of the reasons [maybe the real reason] for the war in Syria is the gas pipe line from Qatar to the Med,
      "In their view, our war against Bashar Assad did not begin with the peaceful civil protests of the Arab Spring in 2011. Instead it began in 2000, when Qatar proposed to construct a $10 billion, 1,500 kilometer pipeline through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Qatar shares with Iran the South Pars/North Dome gas field, the world’s richest natural gas repository".
      http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-mideast-conflict-oil-intervention/

    • This is a proxy war of regime change, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel want the overthrow of Assad the 'West' does also. To facilitate this the US supply thousands of tons of military equipment to Saudi Arabia and Qatar like Tow anti tank missiles, paid for by the Saudis and shipped through Turkey to the Jihadis, [by the way there are no "moderate" jihadis] these are all well documented facts. The only reason man pads were not delivered was the close proximity of Ben Gurion airport at severe risk. “Absolutely… Absolutely I would,” McCain said when asked whether he would support the delivery of Stinger missiles to the opposition in Syria.

      “We certainly did that in Afghanistan. After the Russians invaded Afghanistan, we provided them with surface-to-air capability. It’d be nice to give people that we train and equip and send them to fight the ability to defend themselves. That’s one of the fundamental principles of warfare as I understand it,” McCain said.

      Read more: https://sputniknews.com/us/201510201028835944-us-stingers-missiles-syrian-rebels-mccain/
      "The US government has committed regime change 3 times this century" give it time, here is what it did last century..
      Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

      China 1949 to early 1960s
      Albania 1949-53
      East Germany 1950s
      Iran 1953 *
      Guatemala 1954 *
      Costa Rica mid-1950s
      Syria 1956-7
      Egypt 1957
      Indonesia 1957-8
      British Guiana 1953-64 *
      Iraq 1963 *
      North Vietnam 1945-73
      Cambodia 1955-70 *
      Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
      Ecuador 1960-63 *
      Congo 1960 *
      France 1965
      Brazil 1962-64 *
      Dominican Republic 1963 *
      Cuba 1959 to present
      Bolivia 1964 *
      Indonesia 1965 *
      Ghana 1966 *
      Chile 1964-73 *
      Greece 1967 *
      Costa Rica 1970-71
      Bolivia 1971 *
      Australia 1973-75 *
      Angola 1975, 1980s
      Zaire 1975
      Portugal 1974-76 *
      Jamaica 1976-80 *
      Seychelles 1979-81
      Chad 1981-82 *
      Grenada 1983 *
      South Yemen 1982-84
      Suriname 1982-84
      Fiji 1987 *
      Libya 1980s
      Nicaragua 1981-90 *
      Panama 1989 *
      Bulgaria 1990 *
      Albania 1991 *
      Iraq 1991
      Afghanistan 1980s *
      Somalia 1993
      Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
      Ecuador 2000 *
      Afghanistan 2001 *
      Venezuela 2002 *
      Iraq 2003 *
      Haiti 2004 *
      Somalia 2007 to present
      Honduras 2009
      Libya 2011 *
      Syria 2012
      Ukraine 2014 *

      Q: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?

      A: Because there’s no American embassy there.
      https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
      And that was only since the end of the 2nd World War.
      The US government are involved up to their necks in Syrian regime change, the only reason it will not succeed is because Russia wants International law to apply and for the Syrian people alone to decide Syria's future, not the "democrats" of Saudi Arabia or Qatar.

    • Sorry andrew r can't agree with you, the US has been trying to regime change Syria since way before 2011. Robert Ford was US Ambassador to Syria when the revolt against Syrian president Assad was launched. He not only was a chief architect of regime change in Syria, but actively worked with rebels to aid their overthrow of the Syrian government. http://www.globalresearch.ca/you-wont-believe-what-former-us-ambassador-robert-s-ford-said-about-al-qaedas-syrian-allies/5504906?print=1

    • Saudi Arabia has 100,000 empty tents with air conditioning with accommodation for 3 million refugees. http://thefreethoughtproject.com/saudi-arabia-100000-empty-tents-ac-3-million-people-refugees/ Zero Syrians. How long will these Saudi satraps and despots be able to continue their medieval barbaric ways?

    • "Nothing is more insulting for Syrian refugees who have fled Assad and Hezbollah’s terror in Syria" No Mona, I suspect those refugees have fled from the head choppers who are equal opportunity advocates of murder, They promise to chop the heads off everyone not like themselves, including Alawites, Christians, Kurds, Shiites even moderate Sunni's who have shown considerable support for Assad. It should not be forgotten that the number of Syrian refugees in Lebanon is over 1 and a half million, a quarter of the total population, how would the US electorate act if 80 million refugess came to the US within a short space of time? Also one of the causes of the carnage in Syria, and major funder of the Wahhabi head choppers is Saudi Arabia. Do you know how many Syrian refugees the Saudis have taken in? None.

  • New York panel highlights fissures on the left over Syria
    • Kathleen. Thanks for those informative comments and links.

    • The opposition in Syria comprises Jihadis of various stripes Al Nusra front and the Islamic State [Wahhabi's] supported by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey with 'the West' backing the almost non existent 'moderate Jihadis'. Regime change is the name of the game by any means necessary. Assad has the support of the majority of Syrians of every political and religious persuasion, years ago during the Doha debates polls indicated Assad's popularity, since overwhelmingly confirmed in both the Presidential and parliamentary elections in the past couple of years [declared free and fair by observers of over 30 countries]. Who is to decide the fate of a nation, the people in Syria, or outsiders like the "democratic" entities like Saudi Arabia and Qatar who pay thousands of head choppers to go to Syria from all parts of the world to wreak havoc? Every Syrian knows what would happen to the minorities should these Jihadi perverts achieve power, they would be slaughtered, that is why the army, which is 80% Sunni [as is the population] wholly back Assad.

  • Calling someone a 'Zionist' is anti-Semitic and abusive, say British lawmakers
    • "Ken Livingstone, I presume?"

    • This is getting hysterical, there is far more Islamophobia in the UK than Antisemitism, In another thread I quoted Professor Jonathan Rosenhead on Antisemitism I think it is worth repeating.
      "In response to a moral panic about Left antisemitism seemingly expanding without limit, the group Free Speech on Israel coalesced in April out of a loosely-knit band of Jewish Labour Party supporters. Some 15 of us got together at a couple of days’ notice for the inaugural gathering. We found that over our lifetimes we could muster only a handful of antisemitic experiences between us. And, crucially, although in aggregate we had hundreds of years of Labour Party membership, no single one of us had ever experienced an incident of antisemitism in the Party.

      Some time in May the ex-Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks was interviewed on Radio 4 about the antisemitism ‘crisis’ by now gripping the nation. Helpfully his interviewer invited him to share some of his own personal experiences of antisemitism. His response, from memory ran rather like this: “Well….actually I have never experienced antisemitism myself. Which is odd, because most people know that the Chief Rabbi is Jewish”. https://www.opendemocracy.net/jonathan-rosenhead/jackie-walker-suspense-mystery
      There are ten times more Christian Zionists than Jewish ones, could I be prosecuted for calling a Christian clergyman a Zionist?

  • Israeli Defense Minister says next Gaza war will be the last 'because we will completely destroy them'
    • "As minister of defence, I would like to clarify that we have no intention of starting a new war against our neighbors in the Gaza Strip or the West Bank, Lebanon or Syria,"
      Its just as well, Hezbollah have 100,000 rockets many GPS guided [thanks to Iran] aimed at the vital infrastructure of Israel, mainly in the TelAviv metropolitan area. Many settlers [like Lieberman] are to various degrees culpable in war crimes, many settlers are induced to go to Occupied Palestinian Territory simply to get a better life for their families, such settlements have special status and financial grants to attract such people. Lieberman I would suggest is that special brand of war crimes supporter who is fully aware of the consequences of his actions and should be one of the first individuals subject to justice at the ICC when it decides to act on Palestinians complaints regarding the settlements enterprise.

  • Terrific new book by Robert Worth has vital insights into the awful war in Syria
    • The Palestinians just like the Syrians are under attack from reactionary forces, here is what a Saudi official said in Washington recently..
      Salman Al-Ansari President of the Saudi American Public Affairs committee in Washington said.."Israel, he noted, was “one of the most sophisticated and technologically advanced countries in the field of mining,” as well as “a world leader in the water engineering industry” — both matters of significant interest to the developing Arab Kingdom.
      Al-Ansari stressed that the two nations share security concerns, with both “facing constant threats from extremist groups that are directly supported by the totalitarian government of Iran.”
      Israel and Saudi Arabia, he argued, could serve as “the new twin pillars of regional stability,”
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/saudi-lobbyist-in-us-urges-collaberative-alliance-with-israel/ Where do the Palestinians resident in both Jordan and Palestine figure in all this? answer, they don't, all the Saudi and Israeli machinations are directed at the 'arc of resistance' Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and now Yemen, maybe Egypt next since the Saudis have just stopped oil shipments to Egypt because Egypt voted with a Russian Resolution on Syria at the UNSC. Surely the Saudi masses will rise up and overthrow these terrorist supporting satraps. When it comes to their survival these Saudi perverts would sell their own Grandmothers.This is what a prominent Saudi Prince told Richard Dearlove head of MI6 before 9/11 Some time before 9/11, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, once the powerful Saudi ambassador in Washington and head of Saudi intelligence until a few months ago, had a revealing and ominous conversation with the head of the British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, Sir Richard Dearlove. Prince Bandar told him: "The time is not far off in the Middle East, Richard, when it will be literally 'God help the Shia'. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them."
      Israel, the Washington the head of the Saudi American committee noted, was “one of the most sophisticated and technologically advanced countries in the field of mining,” as well as “a world leader in the water engineering industry” — both matters of significant interest to the developing Arab Kingdom". What he did not say was Israel is expert in the theft of water and minerals from the Occupied Palestinian Territories in breach of International Law, See the Quarries case https://www.adalah.org/uploads/oldfiles/newsletter/eng/feb12/docs/Quarries%20case%20English%20Final.pdf

    • Non of these developments happen by chance, Seymour Hersh wrote about them in 2007 in a piece called 'The Redirection' http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection Then the Bush administration decided
      "To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."
      Not for the first time the US backed the wrong horse. Now in order to stop the 'arc of resistance' Iran. Syria, Iraq, Hezbollah and the Yemenis all backed by Russia and to a lesser extent China they [the US] are doubling down with more support for the Jihadis, the US are going ape shit. They are losing control of the middle east. In my opinion only when those medieval satraps in the GCC group of nations [who are exporting their Wahhabi death cult all over the world] are overthrown can we have peace in the region.

    • When I read the "Assad regime" I suspect the worst. The Syrian war was made in the United States and embraced by the UK, France and Germany who armed the "moderate" jihadis paid for by Saudi Arabia and Qatar with those arms going through Turkey. How else could they accumulate thousands of tanks and armoured vehicles, John McCain wants to give them manpads “Absolutely… Absolutely I would,” McCain said when asked whether he would support the delivery of Stinger missiles to the opposition in Syria.

      “We certainly did that in Afghanistan. After the Russians invaded Afghanistan, we provided them with surface-to-air capability. It’d be nice to give people that we train and equip and send them to fight the ability to defend themselves. That’s one of the fundamental principles of warfare as I understand it,” McCain said. https://sputniknews.com/us/201510201028835944-us-stingers-missiles-syrian-rebels-mccain/

      These things are so obvious now with the West openly defending the Jihadis. Defense Minister Ehud Barak argued that "the toppling down of Assad will be a major blow to the radical axis, major blow to Iran.... It's the only kind of outpost of the Iranian influence in the Arab world...and it will weaken dramatically both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza." Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel's security, it would also ease Israel's understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly.
      This assault on Syria is made in the West, just read Hillary Clinton's e mails. Arming the Syrian rebels and using western air power to ground Syrian helicopters and airplanes is a low-cost high payoff approach. As long as Washington's political leaders stay firm that no U.S. ground troops will be deployed, as they did in both Kosovo and Libya, the costs to the United States will be limited. UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05794498 Date: 11/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL..."The best way to help Israel deal with Iran's growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad"https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328

      Assad is the legitimate President of Syria, in the Presidential election in 2014 Assad received 88% of vote on a turnout of 70%, the Ba'ath party won 80% of seats in 2016 election. He clearly commands the support of Syrians of all political and religious persuasions. Professor Tim Anderson cuts through all this propaganda in a series of articles like this one. link to http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-dirty-war-on-syria/5491859 After the United States "success" in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya leaving them in ruins, time to move on to destroying the secular state of Syria, so that Israel can consolidate its claim to the Golan Heights and at the same time split the 'ark of resistance' Iran, Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah. What could possibly go wrong?

  • Clinton to drop Israel from 'public' speeches, put it back in 'with donors' -- email
    • Clinton has a lot of worrying to do when trump brings felony charges against her...
      "Thanks to videos released by Project Veritas, we now have concrete proof that it was Hillary Clinton that paid operatives to storm Trump rallies and incite violence.

      Hillary Clinton did not just pay mercenaries to assault Trump supporters, she also violated the law on several occasions.

      Robert Creamer, a Clinton crony, was one of the organizers of the paid violence and has also visited Obama at the White House at least 230 times. He was forced to resign from his position immediately following the release of these videos." https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trump-moves-to-file-charges-against-clinton/

  • Palestinians across the political spectrum express outrage over cancelled elections
    • Israel wanted the rise of Hamas simply to split the Palestinians. How many Palestinians would or could resist the ruthless occupation forces. When France was occupied in the second WW Professor Norman Finkelstein thought only about 10% of the French population resisted, the rest just wanted to get on and make the best of a bad situation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ In the last Palestinian elections Hamas won and the result was quickly overturned by the US/Israel with the connivance of Abbas who shows every indication of wanting to be the leader until he dies of old age.

  • Clues to the end of the world shared during final 2016 presidential debate
    • Where does the US military get whack jobs like General Milley, he did omit to say the US had the nuclear capability to destroy Russia twice over whereas they could only destroy the US once.
      Someone put him in a straitjacket.

    • This Top US General is straight out of Dr Strangelove "BREAKING: US Army Chief of staff Threatens War With Russia - We will beat you harder than ever before" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvVrQqU1Gwc This has to be what Clinton has in mind in Syria or Ukraine. Scary.

    • Two horrible candidates, At least Trump has offered to team up with Russia to eliminate the Islamic State head chopping freaks, whereas Clinton has said Syria is the first thing on her agenda, promising to set up a no fly zone and immediate conflict with both Syria and Russia. "General J Dunford, Top US general warns Syrian “no-fly” zone means war with Russia" https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/24/syri-s24.html
      By Bill Van Auken
      24 September 2016
      The enforcement of a “no-fly” zone in Syria would mean a US war with both Syria and Russia, the top US uniformed commander told the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday.
      For now, for us to control all the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war with Syria and Russia,” Dunford replied to the Senator. “That’s a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make.”
      There you have it, Clinton wants immediate war with Russia with no fly zones over Syria [Russia will not back down] Trump wants friendly relations, and to do deals with Russia.

  • FIFA postpones decision on sanctioning Israeli teams in the occupied territories
    • IFA Legal advisor Efraim Barak said "The same holds true for clubs located in places whose final status is to be determined, according to valid agreements between the State of Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in negotiations between these parties, and which are currently under the authority of the State of Israel."
      Barak here is referring to the interim agreement between the Israeli Government and the PA, International law is supreme in the case of an occupation and a 'technical arrangement of a political agreement does not out way provisions in International law. According to the Geneva Conventions, the beneficiaries [the local 'protected' Palestinian population GC Article 4] are not allowed to waive the rights granted to them under those laws. The Israeli state's reliance on the provisions of the interim Agreement in order to validate the illegal and to render it legal, lacks any legal basis.
      No doubt pressure will be put on the Palestinian Football Association by all concerned, first by inducements then by threats, It will have to go to legal proceedings. This issue is fundamental to the Palestinians, they must under no circumstances back down or accept promises, which would inevitably be broken.

  • B'Tselem calls on world to 'intervene' to stop 'more perfect occupation,' and Netanyahu goes ballistic
    • "It is so, because so far the world refuses to take effective action". So true , it is the West, particularly the US which stops effective action with their veto at the UNSC. As Professor James Crawford explained in his brief to the Trade Union Congress 'Third Party obligations with respect to Israeli settlements in the OPT. https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/tucfiles/LegalOpinionIsraeliSettlements.pdf
      "As noted by the ICJ in the Namibia judgment the qualification of a situation as illegal does not by itself put a stop to it. It can only be a first necessary step in an endeavor to bring the illegal situation to an end. Regrettably, the political will does not exist at present to enforce principles of International law in respect of settlements."
      I think the points he made in this long opinion was that individual states had a duty to not recognize unlawful situations or collude with them, but that they did not have to actively pursue International law obligations against the offending state on an individual basis, and probably outside UNSC responsibility. Although he did say that states could stop trading in settlement goods and still be within World Trade Organization rules.
      For an understanding of the veto power and its effective use for the five permanent members and most importantly their friends see 'The Attorney Generals advice was sound' by Dr David Morrison http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/iraq/ags-legal-advice.pdf

  • New ad campaign in college papers calls out Israeli leaders' bigotry against Palestinians
    • By the way, if any Palestinian supporters visit Scotland, be careful what you say or you could be arrested “It is extremely sinister for anyone to be charged with expressing the idea of saying ‘long live’ to a community,” commented SPSC co-founder Mick Napier. “The charge therefore seems to have a patina of wishing harm to the Palestinian people. If so, this is certainly breaking new ground in the Scottish legal system; that by saying ‘Viva Palestina’ you are considered to be attacking someone.”

      After Coutts had said “Viva Palestina” a policeman arrived and ordered him to leave the shopping mall, a request which, his defence team will argue, was in itself illegal. As soon as he stepped outside, he was handcuffed, held for seven hours and charged.

      “He is now deemed to be a racist for saying Viva Palestina in the vicinity of a cosmetics stall,” Napier pointed out. “In the meantime, we are examining what some might regard as the overly-chummy emails.” https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160921-astonishing-as-it-may-seem-chanting-viva-palestina-could-soon-be-a-hate-crime/

    • This open Democracy piece on Jackie Walker by Professor Jonathan Rosenhead complements 'Jews sans frontieres' and mentions David Rich's book.
      "In response to a moral panic about Left antisemitism seemingly expanding without limit, the group Free Speech on Israel coalesced in April out of a loosely-knit band of Jewish Labour Party supporters. Some 15 of us got together at a couple of days’ notice for the inaugural gathering. We found that over our lifetimes we could muster only a handful of antisemitic experiences between us. And, crucially, although in aggregate we had hundreds of years of Labour Party membership, no single one of us had ever experienced an incident of antisemitism in the Party."

      "Some time in May the ex-Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks was interviewed on Radio 4 about the antisemitism ‘crisis’ by now gripping the nation. Helpfully his interviewer invited him to share some of his own personal experiences of antisemitism. His response, from memory ran rather like this: “Well….actually I have never experienced antisemitism myself. Which is odd, because most people know that the Chief Rabbi is Jewish”. https://www.opendemocracy.net/jonathan-rosenhead/jackie-walker-suspense-mystery

    • Mooser. I agree, Israelis will not easily give up on Zionism. When Professor N Finkelstein spoke in Dublin not long ago he said this.."If you can't get half a loaf, why not ask for the whole loaf, if it seems as if the two states is not within reach, well why not ask for one state? I can understand that reasoning , the logic of it, but you would have to convince me of two things, number one, that two states is not within reach, and you would have to convince me that one state is more within reach than two states. I think neither propositions is true, I think the second proposition is positively insane. If Israel will not abandon/give up the West Bank, if that's true do you think it would be easier for Israel to give up a Jewish State? Does that make any sense? If two states is remote, one state is another time warp". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS4eBHz2wEU

    • gamal. Just to add to that the plaintive's in the Quebec court case Bil'in and Yassin v Green Park International Ltd put forward this reason for why the settlement enterprise was a war crime...
      "A war crime, to put it succinctly, is a very serious matter. Further, it is easy to see why the offence in question falls into this special category. Article 49(6) is essentially a law to prevent colonialism. One need look no further than the current condition of the indigenous peoples whose domain once spanned the entire expansive breadth of this continent to appreciate the gravity of the consequences territorial dispossession can inflict upon a population. Most war crimes deal with offences against individuals or groups of individuals, but the offence in Article 49(6) is one that threatens the integrity of an entire people. It clearly qualifies as an exceptional offence of higher order that is of grave concern to the global community as a whole".http://www.thecourt.ca/2009/10/bilin-and-yassin-v-green-park-international-ltd-quebec-court-acknowledges-war-crimes-as-potential-basis-for-civil-liability-claim-ultimately-fails-on-forum-non-conveniens/

    • echinococcus. The Palestinians have decided to accept a two state solution based on the borders roughly of the green line at the end of the 1967 war. Every state at the UN bar Israel agrees with that border, with a few small exchanges of land agreed on by both sides. There is no State, political party or Agency anywhere in the world including in Israel/Palestine that advocates for a one state solution. If one exists could you tell me who they are?

    • No Mooser. I said such a sectarian state would be wrong, and in the third comment on this thread said that in the two state 'model' such discrimination that does undoubtedly occur in the Israeli state and could possibly occur in the Palestinian state, could be dealt with within the borders of either state. Nothing is perfect, but in my opinion this kind of solution would be best and is the preferred solution of the vast majority of mankind as expressed by all states at the UN bar the US/Israel and a few south sea Islands.

    • Can I add to the above, the claim made by some people that rejection of Zionism means that the self determination of people of Jewish origin [however that group is defined] is being denied. In my opinion a state based exclusively on a religious or ethnic basis is wrong, therefore my preference for the two state model is based on the Israeli state within the borders agreed on in 1947/8 and that the political and other rights of all the minorities within that state should be respected. Having said that it is a recognition that for the foreseeable future, Israel would be [rightly or wrongly] a majority 'Jewish' state, which I am sure they would be happy with, that is undeniable, although it would not satisfy the Natanyahu's of this world, it would satisfy World opinion as expressed regularly at the United Nations.

    • If supporting International law means recognizing the State of Israel within the borders proclaimed in 1947/8 by the representatives of the Israeli Government, and as agreed to by the United Nations General Assembly, then isn't anyone who accepts the Israeli State within those borders ipso facto a Zionist? At least as far as the Balfour declaration is concerned i.e. the establishment of a Jewish home in Palestine, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine. But then some 'Zionists' say the state of Israel should encompass the whole of Palestine or the 'Land of Israel'. It is this problematical definition of 'Zionism' which needs to be addressed. In this respect it could be argued that Professor N Finkelstein is a Zionist, in the sense he wants International law to be enforced, which entails the recognition of the state of Israel [within its borders and not a 'Jewish state'] as a legitimate state, whether it practices discrimination against non Jews [which it does] is another matter to be challenged within that state. So in my opinion both those who advocate for two states, or one state, could be called Zionists of one sort or another, even if the one state could result in a majority non Jewish majority some time in the future, it would still be a 'home' for the Jewish people as envisaged by Balfour.http://www.palestinechronicle.com/uk-parliament-declares-the-term-zionistanti-semitic/

    • amigo, in my opinion Corbyn does not fight back strongly enough on these issues, Islamophobia dwarfs Antisemitism in the UK, yet he accepts the charges, many unfounded as factually true. Here is part of what he said at that select committee hearing..
      “I am also concerned by some other aspects of the Committee’s report. The Committee heard evidence from too narrow a pool of opinion, and its then-chair rejected both Chakrabarti’s and the Jewish Labour Movement’s requests to appear and give evidence before it. Not a single woman was called to give oral evidence in public, and the report violates natural justice by criticising individuals without giving them a right to be heard".
      “The report’s political framing and disproportionate emphasis on Labour risks undermining the positive and welcome recommendations made in it.
      “Although the Committee heard evidence that 75 per cent of antisemitic incidents come from far right sources, and the report states there is no reliable evidence to suggest antisemitism is greater in Labour than other parties, much of the report focuses on the Labour party.
      “As the report rightly acknowledges, politicising antisemitism – or using it as a weapon in controversies between and within political parties – does the struggle against it a disservice. http://labourlist.org/2016/10/anti-semitism-report-violates-natural-justice-corbyns-response-to-mps-report/
      Thanks Annie for reporting these ads, which unfortunately are in line with what other Israeli leaders have said both political, and religious,down the decades.

  • Israeli diplomat Oren says France and Britain are 'unsure whether their nations are worth fighting for'
    • He said Israelis "have compassion for others"… Operation Cast lead, Operation Pillar of defence and Operation Protective edge all involved the massacre of women and children. Well he did admit to being weird.

  • A lot of the grief over Shimon Peres is grief over the end of the two-state solution
    • "The US Embassy sends out a Jewish new year’s gift that includes settler wine. Then it apologizes saying it didn’t know; but the fact is that the settlements are so normalized inside Israeli society that who would know?" Who would know indeed, Netanyahu just held a cabinet meeting on the Golan Heights and declared the Golan Heights would always be part of Israel, then tried to get Obama to agree with him [to no avail], maybe Obama remembered that 1981 UNSC Resolution, 497 ..“That the acquisition of territory by force was inadmissible and that Israel’s decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the Golan Heights is null and void and without legal effect”.

    • Professor Finkelstein is right , if Israel will not accept a two state solution, with the implication of a Jewish majority state [within the 67 borders] for the foreseeable future, then they are certainly not going to allow one state to come about. A series of Bantustans [a form of Home rule] with no sovereignty or ability to govern themselves in any meaningful way etc with the power to at most employ security forces [as now] to keep order under Israeli military patronage, all the while being surrounded by settlements and barbed wire. No, I think the Israelis have transfer on the agenda or some other partition arrangement, as a substantial part of the Israeli electorate want. It could be possible in the event of a large war breaking out, which could give the hawks every incentive to do 'the unthinkable'. At the present time, if the US/GCC and Turkish coalition were to achieve its aims in Syria, 'regime change', a whole new vista would open up. Hezbollah would be destroyed, then Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US could try to face down Iran. The only hope for the Palestinians is that Assad prevails [he will] and the balance of power shifts away from the bigoted sectarian regimes in the Gulf, which in turn would put tremendous pressure on Israel to come to a more reasonable compromise with its neighbors.

  • Political analyst: Upcoming Palestinian elections last chance to end internal divide
    • ritzl, "It also bears repeating that Palestine is a democracy" Only if the side the US/Israel wants to win is successful, if not the elections are illegitimate.
      Hamas won the elections in 2006,

  • Solidifying behind Clinton, foreign policy establishment gins up a cold war with Russia/Iran
    • Morell advocates arming local groups and instructing them to kill Iranian and Russian personnel in the country.

      This is the definition of terrorism. It violates the UN charter, he is advocating a grave war crime.
      Morell said the killing of Russians and Iranians should be undertaken “covertly, so you don’t tell the world about it, you don’t stand up at the Pentagon and say ‘we did this.’ But you make sure they know it in Moscow and Tehran.” No you just go on the Charlie Rose show and tell the whole world what you are going to do, and hope the Russians and Syrians are as stupid as Morell looks. What a moron.

  • 'To defend western freedom,' U.S. must preserve Egyptian tyranny
    • Egypt has been collaborating with Israel for many years notably by ensuring the Gaza blockade by land and sea is enforced, now the Israeli air force are bombing Islamist's in the Sinai http://www.timesofisrael.com/with-egypts-blessing-israel-conducting-drone-strikes-in-sinai-report/ The Palestinians are fighting a losing battle when appealing to their so called friends, the leaderships of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the other Gulfies, far better to align with the so called 'axis of evil' Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah, these are true friends who will not sell them out at the behest of Israel and the US, those despots will be history soon, that is why Israel/US are so keen to regime change Syria and confront Iran. With the backing of Russia, Israel/US machinations in the region will fail, and with it US control of the middle east.

  • Jewish entitlement, and Jewish populism
    • Keith, if you imagine the loss down the memory hole of over 9,000 comments from Hostage and others not to be a major problem, I do not agree with you, I do most of my research from those archives. I do hope this is only a glitch, If not, and because it was done without prior notice to the commentators, would represent a sad day for Mondoweiss.

  • Irish and Dutch governments join Sweden in speaking out for right to call for BDS
    • MHughes976. As I recall the Government advice to Local Councils and other Government funded bodies was just that, advice, although as regards the settlements and BDS in my opinion it would be impossible for the Government to penalize such bodies, since two years ago the Foreign Office in conjunction with the Dept of Trade offered this advice on dealing with settlements,,
      "There are therefore clear risks related to economic and financial activities in the settlements, and we do not encourage or offer support to such activity. Financial transactions, investments, purchases, procurements as well as other economic activities (including in services like tourism) in Israeli settlements or benefiting Israeli settlements, entail legal and economic risks stemming from the fact that the Israeli settlements, according to international law, are built on occupied land and are not recognized as a legitimate part of Israel’s territory. This may result in disputed titles to the land, water, mineral or other natural resources which might be the subject of purchase or investment. EU citizens and businesses should also be aware of the potential reputational implications of getting involved in economic and financial activities in settlements, as well as possible abuses of the rights of individuals. Those contemplating any economic or financial involvement in settlements should seek appropriate legal advice". https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/overseas-business-risk-palestinian-territories/overseas-business-risk-the-occupied-palestinian-territories.
      I think it would be rather difficult to separate which businesses operated in OPT and which in Israel proper, some operate in both, so legislation would be politically and legally problematic.

    • MHughes976 Under the Equality Act 2010, it is possible to discriminate on certain grounds..
      The Equality Act UK 2010 says discrimination can be justified if the person who's discriminating against you can show it’s a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim. If necessary, it's the courts which will decide if discrimination can be justified. For instance if the courts were to decide today that boycotting South African Apartheid was justifiable in the late twentieth century, they may find discrimination against Israelis justifiable on similar grounds today.

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