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HollyTree

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  • Obama aide says John Adams supported idea of Israel, and Lincoln too!
    • As an aside re above comment by upsidedownism concerning Muslims in early America

      link to saudiaramcoworld.com

      "The Life of Omar Ibn Said"

      (might I also suggest that Aramco World Magazine is a wonderful publication, the online version going back to articles from their first publication in the 60's. Subscriptions to the hard copy are free to academics, journalists and some others. A great source for learning about the Arab and Muslim world-no I am not affiliated with it:)

    • John Adams wrote a letter to Mordecai Manuel Noah, American Jewish newspaper editor, politician, diplomat and playwright, "I could find it in my heart to wish that you had been at the head of a hundred thousand Israelites . . . & marching with them into Judea & making a conquest of that country & restoring your nation to the dominion of it. For I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation."

      BUT in the next sentence one finds out why John Adams wished for 100,000 Israelites to march into Judea, "I believe [that] . . . once restored to an independent government & no longer persecuted they [the Jews] would soon wear away some of the asperities and peculiarities of their character & possibly in time become liberal Unitarian christians for your Jehovah is our Jehovah & your God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is our God."
      link to jewishvirtuallibrary.org

      I think Shapiro's speech writer might ought to have done a little bit of research before tossing in John Adams.

      Lincoln was supposedly influenced by his Jewish foot doctor who he sent as a spy to the South.
      link to haaretz.com

      The inflation calculator only goes back to 1913 at which time $45,000 would be $991,718.18 in 2010 dollars so you know it would be much more than that that he wanted to charge for his foot doctor services to soldiers during the Civil War. The good doctor also came up with a peace plan for after the war ended:

      "According to the New York Herald, Zacharie proposed that the federal government pardon the Confederates and transport them to Mexico, where they would expel the French-supported government of Emperor Maximillian and proclaim Jefferson Davis president. The Southern states would then return to the Union. Whether this account is true cannot be established, and whether such an idea would be acceptable to Unionists and Confederates alike is speculative. In any event, nothing came of Zacharie's peace initiative."

  • Solidarity with Palestinians, yes-- but why not solidarity with Jews?
    • It's a dangerous trick when people fall for it and don't think through it logically and it spreads like wildfire. KSA has NO interest in having the Arab world think they would do such a thing just to scare Iran even for a few hours or a day. Fact is you ask yourself who benefits from anything and in this case it is Israel Israel Israel, not KSA.

    • Here's another statement made by Saudi Arabia-the first one being from the Foreign Ministry in KSA, this one made by the ambassador to the UK
      link to spa.gov.sa

      London, Jun 12, SPA -- The Ambassador of The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to United Kingdom Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf has categorically denied allegations circulated in British newspapers that the Kingdom has given permission to Israeli aircraft to attack Iran by flying over its territories.

      In a press statement today, he said this would be against the policy adopted and followed by the Kingdom.

      He reiterated the Kingdom’s stand in rejecting any violation of its territories or airspace.
      He added it would be illogical to allow the Israeli occupying force, with whom Saudi Arabia has no relations whatsoever, to use its land and airspace.

      --SPA
      23:08 LOCAL TIME 20:08 GMT

    • It is not the first time Times Online has reported such "news". You tell me who is responsible because they have been reporting this repeatedly for more than a year. Cleverly saying again hmmmmm, let's see, just last Sunday the Turkish foreign minister was in Jeddah and was interviewed on CNN. Saudi Arabia walks a fine line but to think they all of a sudden have given permission to use their airspace for an Israeli strike on Iran is hogwash,

      link to veteranstoday.com

      Boil boil toil and trouble propaganda is what it is to foment trouble because ISRAEL is in a heap load of trouble with the entire world over the flotilla incident, the illegal naval siege, you name it.

    • On topic to off topic. Saudi official denial of said reports which originated with Times Online

      link to spa.gov.sa

      0053 Official source at the Foreign Ministry makes statement

      Riyadh, Jun 12, SPA -- An official source at the Foreign Ministry told Saudi Press Agency the following:

      The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia followed some British media's allegations based on slander and false accusation that it will allow Israel to launch an attack on Iran through its territory.

      The source stated that Kingdom of Saudi Arabia reiterates its position of firm opposition and rejection of the violation of its sovereignty and the use of its airspace or territory by anyone to attack any country and it is more appropriate that Saudi Arabia should apply this policy to the authority of the Israeli occupation with which it has no relationship in any way.

      --SPA
      21:22 LOCAL TIME 18:22 GMT

    • "Fear does not have to be of something real – you can fear an imagined threat. You fear the fantasy of what could be. That fantasy is very very real. You can’t dismiss that just because the Palestinians “pose little threat.” Well, you can, but you won’t get anywhere. Even the Palestinians acknowledge that Israelis have fear."

      Fear in Latin is phobia. Now, how does a therapist help their patients get over phobias which are debilitating to the sufferer (in this case I question whether this fear of Palestinians is debilitating or self-serving because Israel BENEFITS from it's "fear"-they don't have to do anything because they have a "legitimate fear"as even yourself wrote "a little threat")

      A while back I heard Dr. Laura (who I rarely agree with but in this case she was on point with therapy) speaking to a woman who called in with agoraphobia. That woman had been able to get herself out of the house, but she still just couldn't drive on freeways (a common agoraphobic symptom). Dr. Laura told her to get on the freeway and drive to the next exit and get off. Repeat several times, then go two exits on the freeway. Then more exits and to call her back after a month, When the woman called back lo and behold she was driving just fine on the freeway for miles.

      So, my sister-in-law also suffers from this malady, not driving on the freeways. I suggested this way to get over not driving on freeways which limits her mobility but is also a GREAT excuse as to not being able to drive herself places and she responded that she just couldn't do this.

      I said, "Why Heather?"

      Her response, "Because I just know I'll have a panic attack"

      Me, "How do you know that?"

      Her, "I just know"

      Me, "And when was the last time you had a panic attack driving yourself on the freeway?"

      Her: 35 years ago.

      In the meantime Heather gets to use her fear to manipulate where she will go, where she can't possibly drive herself, and who has to take her places that would take her three times as long to get to without driving the freeway.

      Israel's "fear", is SELF SERVING and manipulative. They benefit more from being fearful than not because they get to keep what they think is theirs! And the rest of the world just plays along and never tells them to get on the freeway because God forbid, they might have a panic attack never ONCE considering what Palestinians go through on a daily basis and have gone through for more than 60 years, their lands being stolen and not allowed to return home because of the Zionist's FEARS.

      I'm sick of this being used as an excuse, Enough already! Either Israel is mentally healthy or they aren't (which is obvious) but the world is not responsible NOR are the Palestinians for atoning for Zionist fears!

    • link to vesseltracker.com

      Type of ship: Passenger ship
      IMO Number: 9005869 Flag: Comoros
      MMSI Number: 616952000 Length: 93.0m
      Callsign: D6FU2 Beam: 20.0m

    • Stated by maximalist "The concept that a government naval ship coming to breach a maritime blockade that is legal under international law is a declaration of war, and that the ship may be sunk, is legitimate under international law"

      Pure nonsense. The Mavi Marmara ship was not a government naval ship first of all and furthermore the ship was flagged by Comoros at the time of the pirate assault in international waters.

      link to afterdowningstreet.org

      See that? Comoros flagged which is significant because Comoros signed the Rome Statute and the case of attack on a ship flagged to THEIR country can be taken before the ICC.

      Take a little trip there to Comoros, a beautiful little island in the Indian Ocean

      link to comores-online.com

  • Frank Gehry can't be found on controversial J'lem project's website
    • Here is just one example: link to encyclopedia.com

      The cost overruns were due to GEHRY. His designs were so faulty as well and the cost of undoing his mistakes cost MILLIONS. Again, google Gehry and "lawsuits". The contractors get caught in the middle of his shenanigans. It wasn't just the design which should have raised the red flag for those wanting Gehry as the architect, it SHOULD have been his record of problems with his projects.

    • Phil, you need to know the history of this project coming from Los Angeles to know why Gehry was chosen as the architect. First, the seed planter of this project is one Gary Winnick (of Global Crossing fame) Richard Silverstein has all the info over there that I gave him last year. Winnick and Gehry are buddies, but buddies go out the window when funding doesn't come through. This project has been a "headache" for Gehry from the get go-and the sentiment from YEARS ago was that the project didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being completed. Gehry projects are infamous for their cost overrides written into the project agreements. Outrageously expensive to begin with, they just keep getting more and more expensive as time goes on. I suggest that if Gehry has pulled out it is because the funding needed to continue the project is not there. With the economic meltdown particularly drying up the Jewish philanthropy sector, I would bet that many of those who made pledges towards the project have pulled out PLUS the cost has risen from the original cost of the project. Just google Gehry and see all the projects that he was supposed to do that fell through.

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