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  • Nobody cares that Bernie Sanders is Jewish
  • In yet another effort to revive dream of Jewish sovereignty, 'NYT' cites Thai restaurants in Tel Aviv
    • "as a real answer to real conditions"

      I just can't agree. If it were actually that, it might be a bit more credible. But it's not. It's just a leftist cause du jour, and most of the Jews involved are either completely secular and have little interest in the religion or in its perpetuation, or they're openly hostile toward their faith. There are a few who don't fit that mold, but most do. Additionally, anti- isn't a movement. It's simply opposition to another idea. I can find no coherent set of ideas that characterizes anti-Zionism.

      Also, what real conditions are you talking about? Zionism came about in a world where Jews were discriminated against, and often harshly persecuted. And it came after more than a century of Jews attempting to live as equals in European society, failing, and then being murdered en masse. And it was a Jewish movement, one of a number meant to deal with . Anti-Zionism isn't a Jewish movement. It's a movement where the vast majority are not Jewish, and in many cases, openly hostile to Jews. It arose in the aftermath of World War II (and not recently), the ultimate argument against placing faith in European Christians to protect their Jewish populations. It's a thoroughly discredited idea, historically, politically, and morally.

  • Maya Angelou stood with Palestinians, but Israeli military uses her for Black History Month hasbara
    • So, so sorry that Israel doesn't accede to your cynical, disingenuous, and dishonest attempts to paint it as a white country.

    • Boo-hoo! We want an exclusive on using Maya Angelou for advancing our agenda. Clearly, in order to use Maya Angelou quotes, you must first ask yourself whether you agree with her politics. Otherwise, you're not permitted to be inspired by her.

  • 'New York Times' picks up Bernie Sanders's 'socialist' kibbutz but leaves out the ethnic cleansing
    • Just nonsense. This is land that was legally purchased. There's nothing "Palestinian" about it. I wonder, Phil, whether it's necessary to include in all profiles about you, that you live on Native American land in Westchester.

  • Sanders should declare a foreign policy of working with Iran in a 'post-hegemonic' world -- Pampinella
    • "share power with rising hegemons in a system that treats all states as equals"

      I would call this naive, but that's not strong enough. It's silly and dumb. And of course, Iran would never view itself as equal to, say, Yemen, or Lebanon or Syria, states in its sphere of influence.

  • Bernie Sanders' spirituality is resonating with young religious 'None's
    • "in the meantime he is a rebuke to the Jewish community’s effort to stop intermarriage and assimilation by raising the walls on their community"

      What walls are you talking about? Intermarried couples are welcomed in most shuls these days. There are quite a number of Jewish organizations dedicated to bringing intermarried couples closer to the faith.

      Can you just for one second acknowledge that assimilation is a completely different issue for a faith community of a few million people than it is for a faith community of a billion people? I don't understand why you have so much trouble simply acknowledging that point.

  • Generational sea change within the Democratic party will also include policy towards Israel
    • The US-Israel relationship was never reliant on general polling data, and won't be in the future. Support for Israel in United States is strong, and will remain that way, because Israel is a country that largely reflect our values of openness and tolerance, and even you argue otherwise, it's indisputable that no other country in the region reflects our values as much as Israel does. Israeli and Americans work closely together at the highest level every day, and that will continue, because it's ultimately important to the national security of the United States. The Palestinians have nothing remotely similar to offer us.

  • Israeli designer eroticizes the Palestinian keffiyeh
    • I accuse people of antisemitism when it's warranted, and I do it a lot less than I could. As usual, people here complain about being accused much more often than they're actually accused. A lot of people here have very guilty consciences.

    • I've yet to score? LOL. Just because people here don't operate according to basic rules of logic doesn't make them more right.

      "one awaits the yarmulke bikini and tefillin g-string with trepidation"

      Did you see the Meah Shearim scene in "Bruno?" And what Mikhael said.

      There's quite a lot of fashion in the yarmulke world, actually. And if Palestinian women want to walk around in leather string bikinis, who am I to stop them? I rather think it would be a serious problem given the conservative mores in Palestinian society.

      But, again, your analogy is ridiculous because the keffiyeh is not a religious symbol, and yarmulkes and tefillin are.

      "Appropriation by definition means appropriating something that is not part of your history or 'culture'"

      I know what the word means. Last I checked, there's no rule against appropriating something from one culture into another. It's part of history. The Palestinians appropriated the keffiyeh from the middle eastern culture that surrounds them. It is in no way exclusive to them.

    • Well, again, the keffiyeh isn't a religious item, so I'm not sure what your analogy is about. You guys seem really, really ignorant.

    • "If by “erotic” you mean tacky and cheap, then yep, it’s “erotic”, like most Jewish israeli women"

      Sorry, but that comment is both misogynistic and antisemitic.

    • "There are different designs to the Keffiyeh and the one worn by Palestinians is the traditional one worn by Palestinian farmers."

      OK, so what?

      "You can’t appropriate an item that is already your historical heritage."

      Au contraire. You can certainly take an apolitical item and politically appropriate it.

      "You can scream all you want but the Keffyeh will remain Palestinian, and it will remain a symbol of Palestinian struggles."

      And Jordanian and Iraqi.

      "So what , your zionist forefathers/mothers appropiated the Star of David"

      Yeah, and your point is what? I'm the one making the argument that complaining about the use of the keffiyeh in fashion cultural appropriation is silly.

      "I never knew that Palestinians are from China!"

      Most keffiyehs happen to be made in China these days. What can you do? Globalization.

      "You are just jealous of our lovely and famous scarf which became symbol of resistance world wide."

      How am I jealous, exactly? First of all, I own one myself, which I purchased in the Old City, though I've never worn it. Second of all, Jews have plenty of interesting headcoverings of their own besides the keffiyeh. Third of all, I would think that using the keffiyeh in fashion would be seen as a form of flattery, rather than cultural appropriation. Fourth, the hipsters who wear the scarves around their necks in NYC aren't doing it because it's a symbol of resistance.

    • LOL. I'd have more sympathy if the keffiyeh hadn't been a fashion symbol in the United States and, apparently, Tokyo, for the last 25 years or so. They're commonly seen in NYC, where people where them as scarves, and the ones in NYC are doubtless made in the same place most of the rest of them are - China.

      For the record, the keffiyeh is not "Palestinian." It's a Middle Eastern headscarf, and there are Jews that have worn it. The only people who have appropriated it are the Palestinians, who have attempted to politicize it and make it into a symbol of their national movement. So the notion that someone who designs a dress using the same fabric as an item that has been part of fashion for three decades is engaging in cultural appropriation is total nonsense.

  • Parody New York Times 'supplement' criticizing paper's coverage of Israel/Palestine distributed on streets of NYC
  • Park Slope Food Coop puts up firewall against boycott of Israeli goods
    • I imagine the Co-op board is tired of being hijacked over this issue. As they do on the world stage, where Andi-Israel bigots waste the time of international fora with their obsessive hate, so to, the same forces, allied with oppressive Arab dictatorships, are attempting to do the same here.

  • American Jewish Committee agent tries to dig up anti-Semitic dirt in a German refugee housing block
    • Just one problem: The Gatestone Institute isn't a Jewish organization. It's a conservative thinktank, and the chairperson is John Bolton, who isn't Jewish. Even if it was a Jewish organization, I'm not getting how your pointing out one very right-wing organization that is critical of Europe's refugee policy undermines my point that the Jewish community has taken a pro-refugee position across the spectrum.

      When I said across the political spectrum, I had in mind the Orthodox Union, which is usually on the right, and which strongly endorsed bring in more refugees.

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    • Yeah, Annie, guess what? There are a lot of organizations out there, and they have a lot of different perspectives. This article is about AJC. And although I know you're completely incapable of acknowledging the antisemitism that Jews in Europe face, AJC has been supportive of Germany's decision to take in refugees and migrants and has indeed called for the United States to take more.

    • This is really complete nonsense. American Jewish organizations across the political spectrum have been supportive of Western countries taking in refugees and migrants from Syria, and they've all supported upping the number that the United States takes. link to jta.org

      That includes AJC. link to ajc.org

      The only concern they've raised is that the process be orderly in order to ensure that Europe knows who is coming in and that the countries do a better job of integrating the migrants, given Europe's poor track record in this regard over the years. The Jewish community in the United States and internationally has strongly supported Chancellor Merkel, President Obama, and others who have called for taking in the refugees.

  • Obama kisses up to foreign leaders who lobbied against his signature achievement
    • "So you can lobby against the President’s signature foreign policy initiative, thumb your nose at his policy on two states, and he will still kiss your behind"

      Oh no. Did President Obama just undermine your sky-is-falling negativity? Did he suggest that maybe the vast majority of Democrats aren't supportive of BDS? Boo-hoo.

  • How many more orgasms will be had for Zionism?
    • These essays, which are as misleading as they are badly-written, always make for amusing reads. Leftish prudishness is always really funny.

      I know people who went to Habonim. They are far from brainwashed.

      It's just always funny in the internet age for people to complain about being brainwashed. Is Liz a really weak-minded person? Is she really claiming that a camp where she was taught about Kibbutz life made it impossible for her to read any books on any other subject related to Israel or to learn anything else other than what others told her? Maybe she's a little mixed up.

      And this nonsense about sex and Birthright, people! These are trips for people between the ages of 18 and 26. Young adults are known to have hormones and to have sex with one another. Nobody is forcing them to do anything, least of all have sex. And I went on Oranim, the most popular of the earlier Birthright trips. Momo Lifshitz told us how he hoped we would meet our significant others. Apparently, that speech is the same thing as forced sex. And like many others, my Birthright trip included a night in the Bedouin tent, with literally a hundred other people. No one was having sex there. Do you think that when teenagers and college students go on group trips to Europe or India, they don't hook up with one another? Why is it that when young adults have sex on a trip to France, they're young adults, but when they have sex on Birthright, it requires a novella of analysis about how they're forced or brainwashed to do it?

      I look forward to additional amusing self-indulgent narratives about Jews and socialist summer camps, a la Woody Allen.

    • This entire badly written piece is basically a pile of nonsense. No one is forcing anyone on Birthright to have sex any more than any other trip with lot of hormonal young adults. And the olim today from the Orthodox community who make up Zionism's core today? Not into the promiscuous sex either.

  • Did Obama blunder in Haiti because he has to pay so much attention to Israel?
    • No, really. I mean, the US has been playing imperialistic games in Haiti for 200 years. But whatever happens there, it's Israel's fault. Remember people, it's anti-Zionism, not antisemitism.

    • So the great work of Israeli doctors is the reason Haiti is in bad shape. This logic gets stranger and stranger.

      "Namely, that the US government spends an inordinate amount of time dealing with Israel’s constant demands and placating them, time which could be spent more productively seeking solutions to problems in other parts of the world"

      Obama has repeatedly said that the foreign policy issue that occupies the bulk of his time is ISIS. Most of the time the Administration spends with Israelis is with Israeli intelligence officials, with whom they work on common security matters, not with Israeli political officials.

      So it's you, Qualtrough, who is missing the point; people like you are simply misinformed and trying to create a false narrative out of whole cloth.

    • Yes, Haiti's in bad shape because Israel. ROTFLMFAO.

  • Netanyahu taps Internet freedom activist known for pranking Iranian officials as new spokesperson
    • "who?"

      Is that a serious question? Are you incapable of using the internet? This isn't some fly-by-night organization. It's a major NGO.

      link to blog.movements.org

      "Exactly which “repressive states” has movement.org targeted?"

      Why don't you get on the website and check it out? I assume you have an internet connection. Take some time off from the conspiracy theory websites you clearly frequent and look it up.

    • Alex could point out that Movements.org has helped many dissidents in repressive states escape persecution.

      He could also point out that punking Iranian diplomats about political prisoners is, you know, an honorable thing for anyone who actually cares about human rights in that country or anywhere else, and that this site, which promotes the punking Max Blumenthal does of drunk college students, should appreciate Keyes' work.

  • What's the big difference between Israel's 1967 occupation and its 1948 occupation?
    • Jews waged this war? I guess Jews and Israelis are the same here. Remember, folks, it's anti-Zionism and not antisemitism, even though every comment this Rabb character makes refers to Jews, and not Israelis. He's also got a history of saying completely ridiculous things, like claiming that most synagogues raise money for Israel every Sabbath, which he might learn wasn't remotely true if he stepped foot in a synagogue, rather than picketing synagogues, as he's done in the past.

      Jeez, BDS really does have an antisemitism problem.

  • Are Palestinian citizens of Israel banned from New York Times headlines?
    • So interesting to watch the ceramics artist from San Francisco sit in high judgment of Lucy Aharish and to call her a traitor. So, so interesting. What an utterly disgusting display of white American privilege. What a colonialist mindset; Arabs are only entitled to hold certain political opinions for Annie. I would call you a "traitor to humanity," but such language is offensive to me, even to describe someone like you.

      I find inappropriate the notion that Jews pf Middle Eastern origin are "Arabs." With a few exceptions, all of recent vintage, most Jews from Arab societies do not so identify, and Jews living in Arab countries were usually treated as both an ethnic and as a religious minority, were not seen as Arabs, and did not generally think of themselves as Arab.

  • African asylum seekers fear for safety with racism on the rise in Israeli society
    • "What label (if any) would you apply to Jewish belief in eternal and irrational Gentile anti-Semitism?"

      The Jewish belief? It's not a Jewish belief. It's a belief among people who have been persecuted a whole lot. They tend to believe that if it happened all those other times, it's likely a long-term problem.

      I mean, what label do you apply to the African-American belief in eternal and irrational white racism? Do you characterize it that way? I'd say it's firmly based in historical experience.

    • "Is this because of the general shared values with the USA in particular and the West in general, or does it come from that deep well of Jewish ethics we hear about?"

      I mean, clearly, when some deranged guy stabs an Eritrean in the head, it comes from Jewish ethics, just as when a white guy walks into Bible study in a black church in South Carolina and guns down nine people, it comes from Christian ethics.

  • Methodist divestment highlights Israel's place in the world
    • It's not like Methodists voted for or support this policy.

      "Palestinian advocates, both in and outside the church, described the step as an important advance in the Boycott, Divest and Sanction campaign, or B.D.S., an international effort to pressure Israel economically over the Palestinian issue. Others within the church, however, called those claims misleading, noting that the church remains invested in other Israeli companies and that members had overwhelmingly opposed divestment resolutions.
      link to mobile.nytimes.com

    • Yes, against the will of most of their members, the Methodist Church was pushed into doing this by their anti-Israel faction.

      Marc Ellis asks why they didn't just sanction the entire American Jewish community.

      Remember folks, it's anti-Zionism, not antisemitism.

  • Facebook censors cartoon critical of Israel
    • LOL. As if it were hard to find antisemitic and anti-Israel material on Facebook.

    • Biased you are, definitely. Biased also because you can't understand that Latuff would never have depicted Mark Zuckerberg that way if he weren't Jewish, and biased because you love a cartoonist that even the Guardian accuses of trafficking in "Judaeophobic stereotypes."

  • Sick of Zionism’s stranglehold on Jewish culture? There is an alternative.
  • Why are American pro-Palestinian voices silent about the brutal war on Yemen?
  • My one word interrogation at Ben Gurion airport
    • "But to me these stories become even more disturbing when compared to the experience of many others, mostly Jews and white Americans and Europeans, who travel through Ben Gurion without a care, or an interrogation."

      Yes. It's disturbing when your presumptions about Israel are undermined because the border agents don't play to your stereotype by deporting you, eh, Adam? It must be really annoying.

  • New Jersey teenager threatened with legal action by high school over pro-Palestine activism (Update)
    • No Annie, treason has a specific definition, and it's not what Pollard did. You seem not to understand much about Pollard's case or the law. Pollard would likely have spent less than a decade in jail if he had behaved between his plea and the sentencing. He's obviously an unbalanced guy. He also stayed in prison much longer than he had to because he repeatedly refused to apply for parole.

      Look Annie, you can on and on all you want about people like Jonathan Pollard; the fact of the matter is that the US works closely with Israel on defense and security matters, and will continue to do so, and anyone involved in that work can explain to you why the relationship is close and will remain close. I understand that cases like Pollard provide you with great propaganda.

      But if you actually think that our allies don't spy on us, or that we don't spy on them, you're unbelievably naive.

    • The question is when there are dozens and dozens of books by actual historians about Jewish history, why everyone here relies on Shahak's polemic. It's very curious. Actually, it's not so curious. I think the reasons are obvious.

    • Nah, I'm calling you an antisemite because you think everything is the result of Jewish power, which is what antisemites tend to think. Months ago, I had to explode the nonsense you posted about Holocaust movies, which you're also obsessed with.

      Our discussion was about the German law. In any event, as I pointed out, Europe does not have a First Amendment tradition, so it's much more common to see speech laws there. So it isn't about Jewish power. It's about European custom.

      Look, when you engage in Holocaust revisionism, or you (Roha) routinely blame Jews for the hatred they experienced during the last millenium in Europe, I'm going to call you what you are. I couldn't give a rat's ass whether you accept it or not; most people are in denial about their own bigotry and privilege. What is interesting is that on a moderated site with rules against antisemitism, antisemitic comments and links to Holocaust denial sites like rense.com routinely appear here.

    • Right, so because one guy is a spy, he's your representative of all US Jews. Remember folks, it's anti-Zionism, not antisemitism.

    • This is kind of nonsense that passes for comment here: Jews are highly assimilated, but they have a "ghetto" mentality. Remember folks, it's anti-Zionism, not antisemitism.

    • Israel Shahak isn't an historian, and the only people who take his reading of history seriously are antisemites. Use a real historical source if you want to be taken seriously outside of the cult.

      " Ghettos were a Jewish creation."

      Bullshit; that's an antisemitic canard.

      The Venice Ghetto was established by the Republic, and the Jews were forced to live there. Jews were seen a threat to Christianity.

      The Rome Ghetto was created by Pope Paul IV. Jews were forced into an undesirable part of Rome that often flooded.

      The Prague Ghetto dates from around the 11th century and was walled; 1500 Jews were massacred there in 1389.

      Most of these ghettos were poverty-stricken and overcrowded.

      And of course, from the 11th to the 17th centuries, Jews were constantly facing expulsion orders and bans of one kind or another.

      When the Nazis set up ghettos in 1939, they were merely repeating past history.

    • "My point being that so far the US has not been intimidated into including Holocaust “education” into its curriculum. "

      Intimidated by who? Oh, THOSE people.

      "More British and American school children would correctly know about the “six million” than would even have a clue about Soviet WWII war deaths."

      Why is "six million" in quotes? HOLOCAUST DENIAL IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN HERE.

      "And what is the pressing need for Holocaust education beginning in 2008, over 60 years after the end of WWII?"

      Why indeed? I mean, the survivors are almost all dead. It's time we forgot about European antisemitism for good.

    • "Why was it considered necessary 40/50 years after the Holocaust? Was Holocaust denial some sort of problem? Mind you, these laws were passed AFTER the Jews had acquired considerable power and were in no danger. "

      Yep. I'm not a fan of these speech laws, but of course, you ignore the details, because, as usual, you're an antisemite obsessed with the Jewish angle. The law does not mention Jews, or the Holocaust. It is a general law criminalizing incitement against minority groups, and it includes general provisions against glorifying Nazi rule or downplaying Nazi atrocities.

      There's also a context. Europe does not have a First Amendment, and there are a number of laws on the books that regulate speech.

      You also might ask why many Muslim states advocate bans on depictions of the Prophet Muhammed (the same states where antisemitism is rampant), which seems to me a potentially much more serious problem in our times than Nazi atrocity-denial laws.

    • I'm not sure how Canary Mission undermines my argument. It puts pictures of kids engaged in anti-Israel activism on the internet, where you can already find pictures of kids engaged in anti-Israel activism. So far, I'm not aware of any chilling effect.

      What does have a chilling effect is when kids on campus have their events blockaded, which is a regular tactic of the BDS movement, or when anti-Israel kids scream "Long live the Intifada," which is tantamount to supporting terrorist violence against innocent Jewish Israeli civilians.

    • You guys continue to deny reality. It's OK. Outside the cult, no one takes you seriously.

    • Yeah, Froggy, she's Sophie Scholl. Seems like the kind of comparison that someone who denies the existence of antisemitism in Europe would make.

      "Bendy has chosen to stand up against organised zionism, and that looks pretty brave to me."

      Why is it brave? What's she risking? A little ribbing by a few of her classmates? Support from classmates who agree with her political views? OMG, she risked a mean girl saying something not nice. That's totally putting her life on the line like Sophie Scholl.

      I thought, according to Mondoweiss, Israel hate was progressive orthodoxy now. Elite campuses are no-go zones for proud Zionists. Jews in France can't cover their heads because it's unsafe. But this girl is the brave one.

    • "The school district may have to bite the bullet and ban all white racists and all supporters of the State of Israel"

      Yes. Here is what BDS supports in its pure form: the banning of most Jews from public spaces.

    • How many homes in Fair Lawn have been vandalized by other Jews? Exactly zero. Shut up already with this nonsense.

    • "He’s savvy, and knows that even if his arguments convince no-one, his every ‘bad hit’ and NUPV will tell on the Mondo web-stats, and sink the site rather sooner than later. He’s got ya’ coming and goin!"

      Yes, alas, Mooser, I'm quite savvy about issues like this, and unlike virtually everyone here, I see the story for what it is, rather than for its propaganda value.

    • "You can’t be serious. "

      I'm perfectly serious.

      " Do you have any examples of pro-Israel Jewish High School students who tweet that Palestinians and other Arabs are terrorists who live to murder Jews ever being threatened with “bullying?”

      If that were the reason she was called the principal's office, it would be one thing. But it isn't. The girl got in trouble for offering to DM her classmate's name to another tweeter who indicated that s/he was "ready to fight." I have no doubt that that's the reason she got in trouble. It's the personal attack, not the political views.

      "This is yet another case of Zionist power being applied to control the narrative."

      Actually, the way people react is a good litmus test. The anti-Israel crazies will say it's about Zionist power. Anyone who is actually unbiased and regularly reads stories of schools overreacting to bullying events will understand that it has nothing to do with her political views.

      "If she had been a pro-Israel activist no action whatsoever would have been taken against her."

      Can you provide any evidence to support the view that she would not have gotten in trouble had she offered to DM the name of a pro-Palestinian kid to someone who "wanted to fight"

      You can't.

      "Anyone who knows the political situation in this country knows that."

      The political situation in this country is that pro-Israel kids on college campuses are the ones most likely to face bullying and harassment from pro-Palestinian students, and not the other way around.

      "It’s very clear who the bully is here — it’s the principal."

      I think the principal is overreacting a bit, but it has nothing to do with her political views.

    • They can't. They can punish students for bullying one another in school, regardless of their political views, and do. The United States is in the midst of an anti-bullying fetish, and this is a byproduct of that. The girl answered someone on twitter who indicated that they wanted to fight by offering to name the student she didn't like. That kind of thing gets school administrators frightened in a country where school violence is too routine.

    • Has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. Has to do with anti-bullying legislation, and no, Benny isn't subject to any lawsuit, or subject to being charged with a crime.

    • "you have just echoed the Zionist’s paranoia"

      There's no damage control here because there's no evidence that Zionism has anything to do with this. What it looks like is that the anti-Israel community is standing up for a girl who offered to DM the name of a fellow student to an unknown person on twitter who wanted to "fight".

      But really, RobertB, I'm not naive. I know that you guys will make propagandistic hay out of stories like these, regardless of what the actual facts are. It's part of your training.

    • Yeah, I can. These stories of overzealous administrators are spread all the time. But no one outside of the anti-Israel community is going to see it as Zionist paranoia. They're going to see it as administrative overzealousness.

    • For the record, teenagers have no right to counsel in school discipline cases. IMHO, they actually should have that right in certain circumstances (such as formal school disciplinary hearing or situations like these where they're asked to give signed statements), but they don't. And I'm sure you can figure out why; it would be impossible to run a school if every kid who got called down to the principal's office invoked a right to counsel.

      Koval also has a right to record her meeting with the principal; New Jersey is a one party-consent state.

      Students do not have an absolute right to free speech. The Tinker standard is that they can express political opinions so long as they don't disrupt substantially disrupt school activities. My guess is that Koval is within her First Amendment rights here, but of course, that doesn't mean that the principal doesn't have the right to talk to her.

      While I'm sure you're all tempted to put this in the harassment-of-pro-Palestine-activist category, it's more in the stupid-school-administrator category; if Koval had posted that she was a pro-Israel activist and had messed with a pro-Palestinian student who had unfollowed her, she'd be in the exact same position. Schools have cracked down on bullying in recent years, particularly in post-Tyler Clementi New Jersey,

  • The candidates debate the U.S./Israeli relationship
    • I thank Mooser for reminding us of how frequently Mondoweiss and its peanut gallery trade in Judaeophobic stereotypes.

    • "But Arabs are not alone: some European and American cartoonists use similar images, with the Brazilian Carlos Latuff drawing, without inhibition, on judeophobic stereotypes in the service of the anti-globalisation movement."

      link to theguardian.com

      You're into Judaeophobic stereotypes. Just own up to it.

    • Jews aren't white, Annie. They're a multiracial group. Jeez. You really are ignorant.

    • Of course you do. You agree with his perspective. I wonder if you agree with him when he says that Israel oppressing Palestinians is like the Jews killing Jesus and the Nazis putting the Jews in Auschwitz. Perhaps you're not offended by those. That's your white privilege, mam.

    • Another dog-whistle cartoon from the antisemitic cartoonist, Carlos Latuff.

  • Sophisticated Orientalism in the New York Times
    • So we're not permitted to study the differences between Sunni and Shia Islam? They're completely irrelevant to understanding the differences between Sunni and Shia?

      Very interesting perspective on a site that frequently (and inaccurately) suggests that ancient Jewish history and texts are a key to understanding modern Jews.

  • Israel charges two Jewish extremist youths in Duma killings
  • 'Had I only known less, perhaps I would have lived here'
    • All the more so in the United States, where virtually the entire population live in places stolen from Native Americans, and in Europe, where many live in houses stolen and expropriated from Jews.

  • Goodbye to all that (my Jewish-WASP shtik)
    • "The matter was born the year I got married, 1991, by the National Jewish Population Survey that said that more than half of Jews were marrying out. This was a giant crisis for the Jewish community in the 90s, and Jewish organizations in the battle against assimilation and to preserve “continuity” tried to build up social walls with Jewish schools and camps and began using Israel as a bonding agent, with birthright trips aimed at fostering Jewish marriages. I found much of this effort obnoxious as it was based on the idea that my wife was an alien. In the previous generation, my uncles had married non-Jews and been somewhat ostracized; I could not cherish a community based on such barriers. So this became a cause for me: to defend my own choices as a Jew. "

      I don't think that it's quite accurate to say that the response of the Jewish community to the NJPS of the 1990's was to use Israel as a bonding agent. Birthright grew out of a desire to introduce Jewish kids to Israel who hadn't been so introduced previously. The notion that the community is based on these barriers today is anachronistic in the non-orthodox community. Jewish camps far predate the NJPS; we have Christian camps, Muslim camps, Buddhist camps - what exactly is wrong with a camp for kids who are Jewish?

      The Jewish community both overreacted and underreacted to intermarriage. They overreacted by focusing on Jewish in-marriage, which didn't work and alienated a lot of people, and underreacted by not focusing on the main problem, which was a generational failure to educate children in the Jewish faith and to foster an appreciation of their heritage in a country where, unlike most other countries, does not subsidize religious education in any meaningful way. It's always easier to conform, particularly when you have no real appreciation for your heritage in the first place, and the new Pew study generally confirms that intermarried Jews are far less affiliated or active as Jews, if they identify as Jews at all. Intermarried Jews didn't win anything. They're barely Jewish and they barely have any kids. The winners in the Jewish community today are Orthodox Jews, including the Modern Orthodox Jews who live and work in the real world, and tend to be the most rabidly pro-Israel.

      The problem with you is that you seem to celebrate that conformity insofar as it gels with your personal choices, and that you want to speak "as a Jew" when you seem to reject your Jewishness. While I understand your need to defend your personal choices, I'm at a loss to understand why you feel the need to do so as a Jew. I'm also at a loss to understand why you celebrate assimilation for Jews, but seemingly for no other ethnic or racial groups. I suspect you'd react in horror if someone argued that Black people should conform by acting more white, or that Muslims should conform by giving up the hijab and marrying Jews and Christians, or that Hispanic immigrants should be forced to speak to English. This is really a disturbing trope among the far-left Jews who support BDS; I remember years ago when Lenni Brenner told a packed crowd that assimilation was reducing the number of Jews in the United States and everyone applauded. It seems that there's always been that strain of anti-Judaism among lefty Jews.

      Privileged Jews are by and large still liberal Democrats, and not Rockefeller Republicans; Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans, as the saying goes. But they aren't the Establishment in the way that Christians are. We don't have a national holiday on Rosh Hashanah. We have it on Christmas. We're under 2% of the population, a tiny minority. Christians are still about 70% of the population. The Christian community is the one that attempts to legislate morality in this country. And there is no collective blaming of Jews for American policymaking either, except by the antisemites. Sure, Christians want to marry Jews. Plenty of Christians were married to Jews in pre-war Europe too. Jews want to marry Asians. Does that mean that Asians are part of the Establishment and free from racism?

  • The Rabin distraction
    • There isn't one serious person who believes that Oslo means expelling half a million settlers from their homes. It means land swaps and maybe about 80,000 evictions, not 500,000.

  • Suddenly, comparing Jewish state to ISIS is OK
    • Not at all the same thing, but go ahead and tell yourself that. Israelis are doing what no one else in the region does - being self-critical.

      And let me know when Palestinians start referring to Hamas as ISIS, because their ideology is the same.

  • Who Do You Honor?
    • Mondoweiss continues to be a shrill, angry, and thoroughly dishonest voice that defames American Jews on a regular basis, [..] stays silent on violence against Jews in Europe, one of the important human rights issues of our time. It has spawned a community of like-minded bigots, who continue to discredit the cause of human rights by taking up the cause of a people and region who don't begin to practice them in any meaningful sense, while dumping on the one place in the region that does practice human rights. Today, ten years after the beginning of Mondoweiss, every premise on which the site is based has been thoroughly disproven. Of course, its central antisemitic conceit that Jews bore special responsibility for the Iraq War was never more than dog whistling in the first place. But its other conceit, that the Middle East's pathology had something to do with the region's only Jewish state is but a sad joke in an inflamed region where Sunni and Shia fight in a regional war that has nothing to do with Israel, the one stable state in the region, and everything to do with tribal strife that is hundreds of years old.

  • US university defeated BDS by hiring three Israeli soldiers to talk up 'love' for Israel
    • Lol. All it proves is that when people actually learn about Israel from something other than a BDS extremist, they tend to reject BDS for the extreme, bigoted approach that it is. BDS depends on ignorance. Most students who subscribe to BDS know next to nothing about Israel except the propaganda that BDSers feed them.

  • Israel and its lobby lose the Iran Deal all over again, in news of damning wiretaps
    • Ask Phil what a patriotic American is. He's the one who shamefully implied that American Jews who support Israel are unpatriotic.

      Yes, like every other nation on earth, Israel has supported some bad regimes. Name a country that hasn't.

    • Only here is this story big news. What did we learn?

      1. Israel and America spy on one another. Nothing new.

      2. Israel, like every other country, has a national interest, and, like every other country, they lobby US legislators when necessary. You think that the Saudis, the funders of extreme Islam and terrorism around the world, but somehow an American ally, don't lobby people on the Hill? Nothing new there.

      3. American Jewish groups who believed that the Iran deal was bad for the United States worked with groups that shared their goals, just as groups like Saudi-funded, unindicted terrorism co-conspirator CAIR work with groups that share their goals. Nothing new.

      4. Patriotic Americans support Israel, because it is a reliable ally and the only non-whackjob state in the Middle East. Those that do not support Israel also support Bashar al-Assad in Syria, and Ayatollah Khomenei in Iran, and generally have a poor record of opposing the widespread human rights violations throughout the Middle East.

  • Marco Rubio should thank Lindsey Graham (for eating enough lox to 'sink a battleship')
    • So sick and tired of you claiming that the "Establishment" is "Jewish" because there are prominent Jews. This is exactly the type of antisemitic nonsense that Germans used to say in the 1930's. You can't stop judging people based on their religion.

  • Palestinians took over in the afternoon, at the Haaretz NIF conference
  • Roger Cohen and Jeremy Ben-Ami go on the road for the two-state solution
    • There aren't any. Multiethnic countries are things European colonialists from countries that are 9/10ths Christian like to prattle on about, even as they lapse into civil wars where millions of people die.

    • Spoken like a person from a country where more than 9 out every 10 Jews died between 1939 and 1945.

    • Kris: what state do you live in?

    • Better than the BDS movement, which leaves the Holocaust out of its historical timeline completely.

    • "The Jewish community needs to divest themselves of their predatory financiers and they will be fine."

      More garden variety antisemitism here at Mondoweiss.

    • Please give me the examples of successful multiethnic States in the Middle East, besides Israel, of course. Here's a complete list:

      1.

    • Nonsense. History shows us that Jews as a minority eventually end up persecuted.

      What of the Muslim argument that Muslim need not one, but 57 backup countries? It doesn't appear here because Muslims and Christians are accorded dozens of times what Jews aren't given once. That's called ignorant bigotry.

    • Not at all what he said. You're projecting. It's the Palestinians who are uninterested in living with the Jews, not the other way around. No matter what state of affairs occurs, Israel will continue to be at least 20% Palestinian, and Palestine will continue to be virtually 0% Jewish.

  • Top Israel advocate uses San Bernardino killings to attack Islam
  • Israel's 'security' wall has provided little security
    • " It was Palestinian officials and armed groups that chose to stop attacks against Israelis in the wake of the Sharm El Sheikh Summit Conference in 2005 that closed the Second Intifada."

      This kind of reasoning is silly. First of all, it was the killing of their senior military leaders that led Palestinian armed groups to "choose" to stop attacking Israeli civilians. Second, the Wall made the prospect of continuing to carry out mass terror attacks a much more difficult proposition. Palestinian armed groups certain did not give up "armed resistance" between 2005 and 2015. That's nonsense. They continued to fire rockets into Israeli population centers. They have just been less successful at killing Israeli civilians during that time.

  • On #GivingTuesday, meet our new Development Director
    • I guess none of you, least of all, Tova, can answer a simple question.

    • "Their [sic] is no such thing as Jewish culture. . ." Exactly why Tova doesn't belong here if she actually believes that what should result in Israel is a society where the peoples respect each other's cultures.

      Even within the BDS movement, there are people who operate from a position of respect for the culture of the Israelis who live in the Holy Land, and the Jewish culture that many of them subscribe to. That is not happening at Mondoweiss. At Mondoweiss, all one hears for Jews and Israelis both is unbridled hatred.

      Tova, you're raising money for the wrong cause. Mondoweiss isn't fostering peace or respect. It's fostering enmity and hatred.

    • Don't censor my comments. I want an answer to my question: Tova said that she hopes "people in the territory called Palestine will soon have equal rights, claims upon their ancestral lands, and honor one another’s cultures."

      I want to know why she thinks Mondoweiss, where Jewish culture is repeatedly criticized and sometimes desecrated, is a place to promote that value.

  • 'New York Times' uncorks laughable Israeli propaganda
    • LOL. James North can't seem to process any human interest story about Israelis. Of course, the article makes clear that the winemaking grew out of a project in the occupied West Bank. So you have your occupation reference.

      And why, exactly, is it orientalist to say that winemaking was outlawed after the Islamic conquest of the Holy Land in the seventh century? Truth is orientalist now? Oh right, because it doesn't fit the subtext that you made up out of whole cloth to create a problem where none exists.

      And of course, your blatant cherry-picking; you ignore this quote: "The vintner, Ido Lewinsohn, said his product is “clean and pure of any political influence,” adding of the grapes: “These are not Israeli; they are not Palestinian. They belong to the region — this is something beautiful.”

      Guess what, James: Other things happen in Israel and Palestine besides the conflict. Maybe if you took your head out of your behind, you might notice that and come up with a better way of making peace.

  • David Grossman's love letter to Israel, warts and all
    • So Bumblebee, what's your record of calling out antisemitism in the BDS community? Anti-Jewish racism among Palestinians?

    • "Yes, “Hophmi” is “willing to be challenged”. Very, very challenged."

      I note Mooser's use of ableist slurs. I wasn't aware that Mondoweiss was now a home for ableist bigotry. I'd ask, again, that the moderators do their jobs.

    • I love that Mooser has enough time in his retirement to search through the Mondoweiss archives so that he can list quotes that have nothing to do with the topic.

      So apparently, Mooser did a search through my comments for the word "Arabs," because for Mooser, use of the word "Arabs" is the equivalent of racism. And of course, he takes my statements out of context, because Mooser is not an honest guy.

      Statement 1 is from a discussion on whether the United States should have allied itself with the Arab League instead of Israel during Gulf War I. I made the argument that the Arabs had little to offer the United States in an alliance except cheap oil.

      Statement 2 is from a discussion about the 1948 war, and whether the invasion of Israel by Arab states contributed to the exodus/expulsion of Palestinian Arabs from pre-state Israel. The entire context: "Yes, the expulsion of the Palestinians, to the extent that it was an expulsion, had something to do with those armies. Back then, they were Arabs, not Palestinians, and there was no willingness on their part to negotiate a two state solution or anything else."

      So Mooser, you're a dishonest guy, and maybe you should get a life.

    • "Hophmi’s been around for a long time here, but no he’s never challenged himself to read anything that disagrees with him."

      Of course, you're projecting. I'm the dissident here, not you. You're just another Mondoweisser who repeats the same stuff everyone else but me and a couple others do. So your statement has zero credibility.

      " You might want to check out this old discussion from 2011, under an article about Rabbi Elmer Berger which devolved into a discussion of Shlomo Sands’ Invention of the Jewish People."

      The book you all love because it repeats discredited nonsense about Khazars and because it's by a guy who has opted out of the Jewish people? Why would I waste time reading a book on genetics by an author who has no expertise in the field? I know why you would waste time with it - because you waste time with anything as long as it supports your predetermined opinion, regardless of the credibility or provenance.

      "And then there is the discussion of Max’s response to Alterman’s hit job on Goliath, where Hophmi defended Alterman’s criticism despite Alterman’s own acknowledgement that Max’s book was “technically accurate” with his usual racist crap about Palestinians and “context”, while never explaining what context excused Jewish Israeli racism (and of course, only Jewish Israeli racism)."

      Actually, I've read many things that Blumenthal has written, and I've written about racism in Israeli society on Facebook repeatedly. Of course, since Blumenthal has said that Israelis should "indigenize" or leave, I reject his genocidalist views.

      What's your record of calling out antisemitism in the BDS community? Anti-Jewish racism among Palestinians?

    • Sorry, diasp0ra, but my presence here suggests that I'm the person willing to be challenged, not you.

      Reviews like these are amusing to read; they say more about the reviewer than they do about the book. Short summary: Grossman didn't adopt an everything-about-Israel-is-horrible viewpoint like mine, so his book is offensive.

    • People here would never read a book that challenged them in any way.

  • Trump's claim of 9/11 celebration in New Jersey is based on arrest of 5 'laughing' Israelis
  • Leading anthropologists group overwhelmingly passes BDS resolution at Denver conference
    • "It should come as no surprise that those whose profession is the study of human development throughout history vote overwhelmingly to support the evolutionary side of this dispute."

      It should come as no surprise that people who study primates should act like them when it comes to this issue.

    • Like the vast majority of academics in history, most will of these losers will go right where they deserve - complete oblivion.

    • "That’s not how academia works."

      That's exactly what's happening with Israeli scholars, as the AAA's own Task Force report says. It's against the law, both in the United States and in Great Britain. They're being targeted by other academics, who are refusing to collaborate with them, permit them to publish in journals, and so on.

      There will be lawsuits over this stuff, believe me. And rightfully so. It's against American discrimination law. And yes, even BDS supporters admit that it would be against the law to discriminate against Israelis on the basis of national origin, which is why they say they target institutions, rather than individuals.

      "Once again you reveal your contempt for the liberal arts."

      I don't have contempt for liberal arts. These scholars do.

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