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Former TV reporter for a small California NBC affiliate. Also worked at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. Passions include justice, camping, the unknown, wine, humor, motorcycling, reading and saying a lot in as few words as possible. At this last one, I often fail . . .

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  • Are pro-Israel groups afraid of the US public?
  • Saban confronts Bennett: 'Are you willing to cut commercial ties with Europe?'
    • . . . conservative political operative David Lane’s American Renewal Project, a conservative non-profit focused on getting Christians more involved in American politics.

      Sorry, Kay, but doesn't seem to conflict with a religious organization's tax-free status to specifically be entering into politics like this? If it's not, it should be.

      I thought the idea of non-tax status was to ensure that there would be no conflict between church and state, and that religious entities could use their resources in their communities for feeding the poor, education, helping the sick, those sorts of things.

      You want to recruit the next mouth-breather to the senate? Fine. But We The People shouldn't have to pay for it.

    • “The United States will not involve itself in any way “in the choice of the Israeli people” during the forthcoming election, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said on Sunday night during an address to the Brookings Institution’s Saban Forum, currently being held in Washington.

      That's got to be one of the big all-time bedtime stories that the US constantly tells its citizens; that we don't routinely interfere in other nations' internal affairs. And of course, did any reporter dare ask Kerry about Israel's interference in ours?

    • Here I'll repeat my story about the several Israeli employees who were caught spying at the big telecom I worked for years ago. It was said that they had installed back doors to all the telephony software that they had designed and that the big telecom used. I've got zero proof, but having such a capability would explain the somewhat mysterious J. Edgar Hoover-like power over so many politicians that might not just be all about the money.

      What Bennett mentioned were the things belonging in the white world that we all know about. I'm thinking with Israel's many defense-related relationships, there must be similar black world items that went unmentioned. The back door I described above could be one such capability.

  • A point by point response to Alan Dershowitz’s 'Ten Reasons Why The BDS Movement Is Immoral'
  • Mamdani's 'holistic' challenge: Anti-Zionists must persuade Jews they can only be safe by dismantling the Jewish state
    • I dunno. Raging entitlement?

    • I imagine the whites of South Africa expressed similar fears, yonah.

      When a state lacks any kind of moral or legal legitimacy beyond what it deems solely for itself, then that state is in deep denial. Israel is incapable of fixing itself, based from its establishment on lies, dispossession, inequality and violence. Not a kind of place for fostering good, long-term stability, or democracy, for that matter.

      When you live in a bunker, all you can develop is a bunker mentality. We see the fruits of such a venture,

    • I think you're ignoring the big picture here. On purpose.

    • You really don't get it, do you?

    • You are right, eljay.

      After looking over congress, I'd say that's a tall order. Those three words you mentioned aren't the usual ones that emanate from their actions.

    • DS ~

      You meant "How would dismantling Zionist Israel make Jews safe?" Big difference.

      Have you gotten a load of Israel lately?

  • Rep. Israel endorses speech saying Europe failed Jewish people in 40s and is 'failing us again today'
    • I'm right with you, unverified, but where to go to from here presents a real problem for a voter.

      In a two party system, you've got to have options, but both parties are so gaga over Israel that there is no alternative to the craven insanity on the democratic side. You've heard Hilliary on Israel, I take it? Whichever loony bird the republicans hitch their star to will only function to make the democratic one seem reasonable in comparison.

      I don't think this is likely to change until enough grassroots support for the Palestinians wells up from the populace, forcing some political space for elected representatives to throw off their Zionist shackles. Of course, I believe that most of our elites are as genuinely clueless as Congressman Israel appears to be and will simply need to be replaced over the next ten or so election cycles.

      It is frustrating, though, listening to progressive Senators like Elizabeth Warren or Al Franken speak with passion and intelligence on some domestic matter and then start uttering complete nonsense — worthy of a Tea Party hack — in support of Israel.

    • Well if their memories are so great, why did they have to write so much stuff down?

      When the zionist project fails and it will , they will pull out the A/S card and blame everyone but themselves for their loss.

      I believe that process is already happening as we speak. Hope it speeds up.

    • "Unilaterally," like when you kick your mugger in the crotch without asking his permission first (You would have called the police, but they're holding his coat.)

    • Hey, it worked great for Abu Ghraib, didn't it?

      So Israel is just now getting around to "investigating" Gaza? Kinda late, isn't it?

      Wonder what got this ball finally rolling?

    • I guess human nature hasn't changed much since that old boy was hanging around the olive groves.

    • And I accuse you of demanding concessions from Israel, but asking nothing of the Palestinians

      Knowing how much and how long the Palestinians have needlessly suffered under Israel's bloody rule, if this can't be characterized as one long, unending nightmare of a concession, I don't know what is. If Israel has a case for saying, "You failed us," how many more thousands of times could the Palestinians rightfully scream those exact same words?

      Yes, the international community should be chastised, but for repeatedly letting the Palestinians down, not for their toothless acquiescence of Israel's numerous violations of international law and UN resolutions.

      And where exactly does this seemingly endless supply of morally stunted American politicians come from? What a collection of unctuous dunderheads. Such a combination of self righteous & wrong-headedness, with just a dash of arrogant racism thrown in for good measure, all on public display.

      And what's this "Jewish people have long memories" business? First I've heard of that one.

      This whole article was just one big fart in a diving bell from start to finish. So much wrong.

  • Israel has no answer to BDS, Barghouti tells packed hall at Columbia
    • Sorry, but reading your post, the first thing that popped intro my mind was, they had computers in 1969?

    • uncompromising

      DS, take that word and apply it to Israel for the last 65 years. After you've done that, get back to us.

      So Mr. Barghouti, and not Israel's colonialism, is responsible for the "despondency and plight of the Palestinian people."

      Do you even know what you are saying?

    • Yonah's funny. Walks into a house of mirrors and leaves thinking he's had a conversation.

      I'm curious: What was the role model for Israel? Shows how good intentions can so easily go off course.

    • What I find interesting is that for a movement that is deemed ineffectual. can't work, and only appeals to idealists, it has still managed to draw all three of the naysayers here at MW to try and convince us of those questionable facts.

      Methinks their numerous postings reveal that it is indeed a movement worthy of countering, and unlike the vapid mutterings of our State Department, taking money out of Israeli pockets is a specter that is as truly frightening as it is effective.

      More of the same, please.

    • There is no empirical evidence that Israel’s economy has suffered BDS at all. In fact, GDP growth in the West Bank is quite high . . .

      (I promised myself, every time one of these guys (?) posts some version of this on MW, I'm going to ask for my $3 billion dollars back. So here goes . . . )

      Hey, hophmi, can I have my $3 billion back? Sounds like won't be needing it.

    • Nothing in your post absolves Israel from its obligations under international law. Your assumptions as to who BDS appeals to may exist in your head, but that's about it. And who knows, maybe left to their own devices, the Palestinians will come up with something entirely new on their own. You don't seem to want to grant them the possibility.

      And I'd call cutting off the economic tentacles of the Zionist State the work of realists; not idealists.

    • Most people, even those who are intelligent and committed to keeping up with foreign policy, don’t even fully understand what it means.

      Reference, please.

    • Jewish people aren't doing anything, DS.

      Now the college Zionists, on the other hand, can't even defend Israel openly anymore because it's such a ruined product. So they have to stoop to things like "civility" and "uniting the student body" and "too complex" to understand (when in actuality, war crimes, stealing land and Apartheid are easily grasped).

      So tell me, DS, if Israel is so wonderful, and BDS is such a waste of time, why the change in strategy? Why not argue for Israel on it's merits? Someone's very much worried, despite your whistling past the graveyard post.

    • Had no idea that happened, Walid. Serves him right. He should get the bum's rush wherever he sets foot instead of standing Os from those tools in congress. As an American, it's about the most cringe-inducing spectacle I can think of.

    • Thanks for the props, everybody. I'll pass your compliments along, Annie . . .

      I was amused with the quote I bolded, about the no side wanting to "unite students," and not hurt their little heads with such a "complex issue." Apparently this is all part of the new strategy for defending Israel by not actively defending Israel, since it seems like a harder and harder thing to do, especially with this age bracket.

      Yes, whether it's fast or slow, we do indeed seem to be moving in the right direction.

      I've lived to see people walk on the moon; I was interning at a TV station and saw the Berlin Wall fall; and I'd like to live long enough to see Israel reach a similar Berlin Wall Moment. It may be happening sooner than I think.

    • Just today I got an email from my gf's daughter. She's enrolled in Concordia University in Montreal. She sent this link simply because she designed the cover art for the school paper and wanted to let us know. Imagine my surprise when I read the contents:

      montrealgazette.com

      Concordia undergrad students vote in favour of Israel boycott

      Concordia’s undergraduate students have voted in favour of a boycott of Israel, although it remains unclear how such action might actually affect daily life on campus.
      The ballots for question No. 8, the most controversial referendum question asked to students in a series of votes held during the past week, were finally counted on Friday evening. They had initially been sealed as a result of the explosive nature of the issue and dozens of complaints to the Concordia Student Union (CSU).

      The question read: “Do you approve of the CSU endorsing the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel?”

      The “yes” side garnered 1,276 votes, while 1,067 ballots were marked “no.” A total of 237 voters abstained from the question. The overall turnout, at 2,580, was extremely low. There are 35,000 registered undergraduates at Concordia who were eligible to vote.

      “We knew from the get-go that any result would be very, very tight,” said Lauren Luz, a member of the “no” committee. “This is the outcome, and this is what the students chose.”

      Luz added that the “no” side ran on a campaign that had very little to do with Israel itself.

      “Our whole campaign was based on being here to unite the students and to stay away from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, because it is such a complex foreign issue,” she explained. “We really did get our message across.”

      The BDS movement stems from a declaration issued in July 2005, signed by about 100 Palestinian organizations, calling for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel that mirror those levied against South Africa during the 1980s. A special committee (not affiliated with the university administration) is expected to be formed — open to the public and with representatives from both sides — to discuss the next steps, said Luz.

      Another maybe not-so-small victory.

  • Efforts by Israel's supporters to silence nonviolent Palestinian advocacy does not promote peace
    • Because it would be more honest than pretending to see anti-Semitism under every mattress while at the same time trying to prevent any opposing views from being heard. But then again, honesty and Zionism have never really gotten along well, have they?

  • In major shift, one third of Americans want US to push for one-state outcome in Israel/Palestine
    • I'd say that is where BDS comes in, as some way of breaking the cycle of nothing changing except loss of more territory & lives.

    • Annie, I perhaps should have been clearer; I was limiting my impression about the one state solution to mainstream America. Sure, if you're covering any kind of protest, then those are just the folks who would be in the know about the 1SS, as well as an entire range of other issues like climate change, Wall Street dalliance, fracking, etc.

      Depending who was answering this poll, prior knowledge about I/P in general and the 1SS in particular would surprise me. Then again, I don't go to church so maybe I'm out of the loop on just what most average Americans know.

      OTOH, I've heard and read the whole dismissive "Oh, they're crazy. They've been fighting over there forever," which displays a lot of ignorance regarding the history as well as the current history of the conflict. If that kind of person is imagining a 1SS, I'm willing to bet it's more along the lines of just having Israel nuke all the Arabs and have Israel live in peace, crazy as that sounds to us.

      Gotta disagree with this: i think a lot of people probably have not internalized the jewish victimhood meme. In my generation, growing up in a mildly Methodist household with the Exodus soundtrack record right in there with those of Burl Ives and The Micky Mouse Club, I internalized the entire Israel as brave little victim fighting off the bad guys meme without even thinking about it, just the way a meme is supposed to work, right? In school, we got films about the Holocaust and during the 67 war, I don't remember any teacher explaining any other version of events except what a committed Zionist might have made. Same with the media.

      I think the entire identity for Israel is the one they've carefully constructed over the years — the same one that's thankfully falling apart now. I've got to imagine that these lingering ideas still hold sway in many quarters, especially so in places where the I/P issue is only background noise.

    • The only solution which is both morally sound and politically possible (just barely…) is two states. It’s the only path towards peace.

      I'd say the entire history of Zionism argues just the opposite.

    • I guess that's the problem — no daylight exposing our foul relationship with Israel. It could really use some, along with a good dose of fresh air.

    • I'd like to see those numbers as well. Last poll I remember was that those thinking we spent too much on Israel were increasing fastest among the younger generations, as you might expect.

      But to your point, I completely agree — if Israel's going to continue to do all this killing, land stealing and foot-dragging, they should at least do it on their own dime. On top of that, we could really use the money right here.

      Unfortunately, when you have public officials still making idiotic statements like, "Defending America means defending Israel," the day of cutting funds is still a ways off.

    • I'd be curious to know if among those taking the survey, that the option of a one state solution was their first time ever hearing of this possibility? Because it doesn't seem to me to be out there floating around very much, at least not in the MSM.

      And with a one state solution, what happens to the right of return?

  • Chris Hughes brings down the curtain on neoconservative New Republic
    • Didn't read TNR, but this sounds like a very good thing.

      Now could somebody please buy NPR? There a lot of permissible lefties over there who should get their walking papers.

  • AIPAC seeks to blow up negotiations between Iran and US
    • That flag is flying! Maybe it's a sort of magic carpet thing.

    • At least she CAN be human once in a while. This is small but reassuring. At least she can recognize when this tripe is tripe. So, there is hope, however small.

      Now if can just get the same level of honesty to statements like, "Israel has a right to defend themselves . . ."

    • Because the have good imaginary nukes, not bad imaginary nukes. See the difference?

      Me either.

    • Kay, whoever wrote that Huffpo piece didn't know what they were talking about.

    • He gone. Be back tomorrow.

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    • I doubt Obama's got the sand, but I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised. I can't imagine any man would enjoy being Israel's punching bag for the last six years,

    • True, Kay. True.

      A weird, inbred society. Maybe we could transport the lot to Kentucky and be done with it. Sorry, Kentucky. Nothing personal.

    • They can't even figure where their own borders are. As Yakoff would say, "What a country!"

    • You don't understand. They've got friggin' turbans, man!

    • He gone. Be back tomorrow.

    • He gone. Will be back tomorrow.

    • “Why does Israel have this much influence over US foreign policy?

      OK, Socrates, I'll bite. My answer is: money.

    • Marc ~

      It is indeed possible to wake up from the Matrix, but I guess I'm looking at a long history of the good ol' USA and where we currently are compared to where we could/should be and I can only come to the conclusion that too many Americans are too easily manipulated. Now, I didn't say that it was cheap or didn't take effort; only that it happens and continues to happen, especially with regards to Israel. Look how many swallowed Bush's war on Iraq after 9/11 when the truth was out there for the grabbing, but few took advantage of it. Instead, everyone started waving flags and cursing the French.

      Sure, even with Israel, there are small signs that are promising, but congress and the media at least seem immune and I don't see many in the streets screaming for change. How long's it been now? Sixty some years?

      I lived in the Bay Area for a number of years and it was easy to imagine that most Americans "got it," but you go 30 miles inland and you might as well be in the middle of the Bible Belt. I guess the older I get, the more impatient I am with the way things are, so to me, the glass often seems half empty instead of half full.

      I'm glad Noam got you going. I had a similar experience with his The Fateful Triangle.

    • If Beebs is so out of touch how come his latest war was so dang popular?

    • After reading the poll again, I'm inclined to agree with you.

      It reminds me of when Bush & Co. were ginning up the Iraq invasion and Cheney would plant a fake story in the NYT, then he'd go around the Sunday talk shows pointing to the NYT story, saying, "See? Here you go . . ." Worked like a charm for those not paying attention, and by that I mean, most of America.

    • I meant Shah of course, not George Bernard . . .

    • The foreign policy of the country is dictated by the supreme (unelected mullah) leader.

      At least he isn't costing me $3 billion a year, yonah, like some other PR-challenged country I could name.

      Let's not forget, lysias, that the Iranians believed that some members of the diplomatic corp at the American Embassy were CIA. They were right about that.

      Yet, when American television viewers saw a bunch of happy students dancing around burning American flags, how many were informed of the true reason, and our decades-long support for the bloody & corrupt Shaw? Our media certainly didn't do the job, as I recall. Same with our politicians.

      No, the students were presented as just more crazed Arabs filled with irrational hate for the good old USA.

      As I said up-thread, Americans are an easily-manipulated bunch.

    • Boy, those Zionists sure love blowing up things.

      Those poll results are just sad, and meaningless in the sense that Americans, as a whole, are an easily manipulated bunch. It would be interesting if the poll also asked respondents since they don't seem to trust Iran that much, where do they get their information regarding Iran? Movies? Comic books? TV commercials? Fox News? Church sermons? Ouija boards? I believe the results would be telling.

      I also find it funny in an unfunny-ironic way how Israel is hot and bothered to get our congress to influence a foreign government by using every means at its disposal; yet, whenever we put on our honest broker hat to try and get another round of peace talks going, we act like we have absolutely zero tools available to help us get our "great ally" Israel to the table.

      It's strange how little Israel is mentioned regarding our foreign policy goals; yet behind the scenes, its influence is huge. Too bad Americans can't seem to conduct foreign policy without catering to this retched silent partner.

  • Elbit Systems loses key Brazil deal over Palestine protests
    • Remember the always classy Israel, unable to take the least amount of criticism from abroad?

      In a statement on Wednesday, Brazil condemned what it said was a "disproportionate use of force" by Israel in its Gaza Strip offensive by pulling out its ambassador from Tel Aviv for "consultation." The country is the second country to recall its ambassador from Israel; Ecuador did so earlier in the week.

      At first, the official reaction from Israel appeared sanguine. "Brazil is a friend, but we think its position is not balanced," Israel's general consul in São Paulo, Yoel Barnea, said according to the Wall Street Journal, adding that Israel should have a right to defend itself from the thousands of missiles being fired at it by Hamas and other Palestinian groups.

      Things soon took a turn for the worse. “This is an unfortunate demonstration of why Brazil, an economic and cultural giant, remains a diplomatic dwarf,” Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said on Thursday, the Jerusalem Post reports. “The moral relativism behind this move makes Brazil an irrelevant diplomatic partner, one who creates problems rather than contributes to solutions.”

      That insult wasn't the worst that Israel had reserved for Brazil, however. In an interview with the Brazilian media, Palmor brought up the most humiliating moment in recent Brazilian history – this summer's stunning World Cup semifinal loss to Germany.

      "Israel's response is perfectly proportioned in accordance with international law," Palmor said in an interview with the Jornal Nacional TV show late Thursday. "This is not football. In football, when a game ends in a draw, you think it is proportional, but when it finishes 7-1 it's disproportionate. Sorry to say, but not so in real life and under international law."

      Brazil's foreign minister, Luiz Alberto Figueiredo, hit back at the "dwarf" insult. "We are one of 11 countries worldwide that have diplomatic relations with all UN members, and have a history of cooperation for peace and international actions for peace," Figueiredo said in an interview with CBN radio. "If there are any diplomatic dwarfs, Brazil is not one of them."

      washingtonpost.com

      Seems like Latin American countries can recognize a strutting colonial power when they see one. One more win for the good guys.

  • Whew! Likely DefSec nominee said U.S.-Israel relationship has never been stronger
    • "“Protecting America means protecting Israel … ”

      This crap has gotten entirely out of hand.

      Statements like these should be opportunities to examine the root causes that animate them, which, one would think, would lead to an examination of Zionist-based thought in influencing our government. If such a hearing could be made, I believe most Americans would be repelled.

      I guess that's why it's not happening, but the silence is deafening.

    • We could use Turkey for that now. And why don't we deal with Israel's nukes instead?

    • RoHa ~

      I hear these power elites making statements like this all the time: "Israel is our friend, Israel is our closest ally, There is no space between the United States and Israel," and so on . . .

      But they always just seem to be these unquestionable phrases that never get any push-back or further examination.

      Like the statement that you quoted; how the hell does he justify that, I'd like to know? Israel could cease to exist as a nation and I'm sure the United States would survive very well without it. These statements all sound like those making them are either crazy, or have a metaphorical gun pointed at their heads. I don't know which one is more disturbing.

    • Marnie ~

      Agree completely with your entire post. When I lived in California, I continually voted against Pelosi, Boxer & Feinstein, to no avail. The Republicans were just as crazy as those three when it came to Israel and in the state, the Democratic Machine runs the show. The other 12 or so candidates never got more than statistical support.

      I know we're supposed to be able to vote for those representing us, and those representing us are supposed to enact policies that a majority of the voters approve of. This all breaks down when it comes to American support for Israel because we're not supposed to acknowledge the power of Zionist money in gaming the system due to charges of anti-Semitism. A neat set-up for them, but a bad nightmare for the rest of the country, especially when I think of all the better uses my tax money could be put to use for right here at home.

      I don't know how to change this situation.

  • Israel has always been crazy
    • His reluctance to make waves puzzles me as well. He's either playing a very long game or has been co-opted in some way with a very large carrot.

      Good news about France; looks like Belgium may be next:

      rt.com news

      You'd think between this happening and how Israel is behaving that Abbas could capitalize on events in a more dynamic fashion, wouldn't you?

    • Interesting post, Avigail.

      As an American, I'm naturally concerned by my country's tragic embrace for this failed experiment, but I wonder why so many politicians here seem to exhibit the exact same symptoms that are plaguing Israel, yet there is no Holocaust-induced trauma to explain it?

      As openly racist & crazy as Israel now appears, I have yet to see any step-back from American pols, unless Senator Warren returns from her recent trip with some dramatic, new announcement. But otherwise, it's still as if all this isn't happening at all.

      Any ideas?

  • Pssst! Is Israel going crazy?
    • Sometimes it pays tactically not to appear too normal/sane – the others tend to exploit a too well-behaving and predictable opponent . . .

      Wouldn't there have to have been a situation where the Israelis got exploited by the Palestinians in order for your thesis to make sense? Can't think of a time.

      Somehow, I'm not seeing Israeli actions as a carefully constructed ruse aimed at duping a foreign audience. Maybe Occam's Razor is useful here: Israel is simply getting more and more radical.

    • Kathleen ~

      My antenna are always up for things that go bump in the night regarding how popular entertainment picks up on various political memes. From the past, we know that the CIA has used its contacts in the media to include story-lines deemed helpful to whatever cause needed goosing at any particular time. I don't know if this is the case with Madam Secretary. The producers, Lori McCreary and Morgan Freeman. don't seem to be cranking out right-wing products, so maybe they just needed a popular bad guy, like Back to the Future had Libyans. I'd be interested to know if some thought went into it or not, or if there's an agenda in the works.

      As for Stewart, I know he'd left his show to work on a film, but didn't know what it was about. I remember his bit on the Daily Show, "We Need to Talk About Israel, But Can't," which got so criticism from the pro-Israeli side, naturally, so maybe he didn't want to stir the pot too much with going after them again. Who knows?

      Great point with your list.

    • Since when did "heartbreaking" become the answer to everything Israel does?

    • Israel is a democracy with a highly developed civil society and a first world economy.

      Great. Can I have my $3 Billion back now?

    • Put me down for ten cents.

    • . . . and its shipments of arms to Israel to assist in the slaughter of children, the U.S. has veered off into a parallel path with Israel., a fact that is no accident in part given the Zionist pressures on our weak politicians.

      Hophmi ~ Guess you missed the "in part" party.

      That these actions are happening in parallel can be blamed on both countries drifting away from their higher, stated norms of behavior. Sure, we've had racism in the US for decades; cozying up to crazier and crazier Israel does nothing to help this situation and the disastrous effects of Zionist money on our political discourse — or lack of a political discourse when it comes to Israel — is a relatively recent development that is bad news for moderates and our country as well.

      Face it; uncritical support for Israel is not in the best interests of the United States.

    • Buckets of irony in this . . .

      Instead of a bucket, my preferred metaphorical container in this situation would be a crock.

    • What is happening in Israel now reminds me of what would happen if the extreme right wing of the republican party gained control of all three branches of the American Government. Yet, in such a scenario, there would still be political voices of moderation speaking up against these actions; but when it comes to Israel, these same voices remain silent, or hold Israel outside of their normal progressive/liberal standards of behavior.

      This reminds me of what Max was saying about Germany in the other thread here on MW.

      I can only hope that the crazier that Israel becomes, the harder it will be to support it with a straight face. That's about the only good that I can get out of these latest developments.

  • Palestinian flag is an 'enemy' flag-- Netanyahu's latest crackdown
  • Lieberman unveils racist peace plan: Pay Palestinians to leave Israel
    • Yeah, but where would they go? I don't think the Palestinians would appreciate us sending our troubled souls over there; they've got enough to worry about already.

    • I had the same reaction to the non-choice of political candidates oft-times, where the republicans would be in-your-face conservatives, and in order to compete, the democrats, for some strange reason, would adopt more or less the same policies, but throw in a bit of moderation here or there to make it seem nicer.

      Got to the point where I felt it was better to have a genuine republican in office so everyone could at least then see how destructive their policies actually were.

      Regarding Israel, having real Zionists parading around their true selves is much better than all these Liberal Zionists continually trying to square the circle and keeping the mask in place. Of course, for the Palestinians, this means it's going to get worse before it gets better.

    • It would be REALLY interesting to see that appropriations bill floated in the US Congress. Cynical me thinks that if it were to be, it might actually come to the floor (both houses) for some sort of debate

      Wouldn't they do what they always do with these odious things? Slap some totally meaningless, opposite-reality name on the measure, like the Peace in the Middle East Anti Terrorism Arab Transportation Enhancement Act of 2014 and ram it through on unanimous consent.

      No one but us here will ever know about it and what coverage it might get in the MSM, will be breathlessly reported by the likes of Wolf Blitzer.

      I'd love to have a real debate on anything involving Israel like Britain recently had. Cover it wall to wall on C-SPAN. We need that to happen. Don't see this doing that, unfortunately.

    • Democracy not in the Bible? How come I keep hearing our nation was founded on Christian Principles?

    • No, Mooser, it doesn't.

      Since when did Israelis care what the world thinks of them? They'll just chalk it up to A/S and go their merry way. In fact, world reaction would perversely confirm their own deepest fears.

      When the snake starts eating its tail, there's no place for recognition.

    • I think they also threw in a smallpox blanket to sweeten the deal.

    • It’s frightening to see a society that removes the masks from itself and exposes its ugliness.

      That, for me, is the money shot. It rarely gets as clear as this, at least here in the US of A.

    • “Ninety percent of the Arabs don’t know a thing about the Koran. I tell you with full authority. We know better than many of them . . . ”

      Those are mighty specific numbers. I wonder if it was a push-poll?

    • Tree, you got it right, although let's agree that you can't really ask too much of snark.

    • Forgot to tell you this part — I stole his wallet; now he's refusing to discuss with me how much of his money I'm willing to give back to him.

      Personally, I think that people who refuse to discuss things reveals a closed, fascist mindset.

    • Jewish guy moved in next door to me. Offered him $20 bucks to leave. Got pissed at me for some reason.

  • Thanksgiving: The perfect holiday to ruin with politics
    • Great point.

      Remember, Black Friday isn't Columbus Day as one might expect, but the biggest retail day in America. As a nation, we've got a lot of growing up to do.

    • seafoid ~

      Guess God controls the economy, too.

    • Krauss ~

      I've seen calculation & craftiness out of Cruz. Still waiting on evidence of the intelligence part.

      Point taken, but at the end of the day, still two peas in pretty much the same lousy pod, IMO.

    • I've said this elsewhere: Simpletons like Inhofe and Cruz don't just wander in off the street; they are elected by hundreds of thousands of American voters who apparently share their particular brand of cranial numbness. And you can be sure that they also for the most part buy into a large amount of Zionist BS, loaded as it is with Islamophobia, fear of the other, and "Let's Build a Landing Strip for Jesus" messaging. That's too tempting a package of goodies to pass up.

      Add in a little greed and a hatred of science, and you've got one of our major parties pretty much nailed.

      But today is Thanksgiving, and instead of focusing on the turkeys, let's remember what we're thankful for: among other things, Mondoweiss, and its messages of hope hidden among the outrages and calamities. It's a fun, sane and enlightening place to be, with so many contributors who not only make me think, but feel. So thank you every one.

      And Katie, thank you posting your historical awakening. You remind me that change is always possible at any step along the way and that life itself is a journey to be enjoyed. The links are great.

  • #JusticeForMikeBrown: NFL star Reggie Bush connects Ferguson to Palestine
    • I have to laugh when Obama is put up as some sort of scary radical leftist by those on the right, being the corporate - Wall Street - military industrial complex - national security state - droning - Israel arming - friendly guy that he is. Some leftist.

      If any of those conservatives actually got to enjoy an actual socialist president, their heads would probably go boom. That's how far this sorry nation of ours has drifted to the right.

    • Finally, a Bush I actually enjoy hearing from.

      Anything that makes the Palestinians real and human terrorizes the Zionist establishment. We know it and they know it. When more people get how vile they truly are, the jig will indeed be up, and all the money in the world won't be able to stop it.

      Foxman has a very Jurassic Park feel about him these days.

    • With so many American cops being trained by the Israelis, what else can you expect?

  • Israel sent Palestinian Authority letter to 'stop incitement' over bus driver’s death
    • Thanks, Allison.

      My impression is we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg here ,and with Israel's long history of deception it's hard to take their word as truth in this matter.

      Maybe something will break a bit later on.

    • Allison ~

      The pathologist confirmed that he worded his report without being "under pressure."

      Is there any proof that Dr. al-Aloul actually did agree with the findings of the autopsy done in Israel?

      According to the linked story,. . . Israeli medical professionals at Abu Kabir hospital in Jerusalem where the exam took place, Palestinian pathologist Dr. Saber al-Aloul agreed with their analysis that the death was self-inflicted." So is this just their word against his?

      It would seem to be easily resolved by showing the facts of the case to a team of neutral professionals and seeing if anyone else can see what Dr. al-Aloul saw. But then again, we're dealing with Israel trying to keep a lid on things, so that's not likely to happen.

      The tragedy here is multiple: a murderer or murderers are walking around free and unpunished, and the case is used as an excuse to clamp down further on Palestinians' right to decent treatment under the law. In some strange way, this strikes me as a monster version of what Ms. Hannink is attempting to do with the Zionist poster on the campus of Wellesley.

      I hope this story makes its way to Sen. Warren, no doubt basking in the Jordan by now, enjoying everything that her famous "liberal democracy" has to offer. But I guess that's not likely to happen, either.

    • If ‘incitement is a crime punishable with a prison sentence in Israel’, then many in the GoI, starting with Netanyahu, should be in prison.

      Great minds think alike. I had the exact same reaction as I read that line. You beat me to it.

  • When Hagee vilifies Obama as 'anti-Semitic,' Cruz and Dershowitz don't walk out
    • Put another way, JeffB apparently sees no difference between feeding children and bombing them.

    • JeffB ~

      The problem here is that there is only one message coming out of these shindigs, and since we have a two party system in this country, if both parties have the exact same take on "Israel being a pretty cool country," which it is very far from being, then that, in a representative democracy, is obviously a grave concern.

      I'm not sure where you're coming from to not see this.

    • They're both at the cushy table of American Elitism, so things like common decency and doing what's right were disposable commodities, jettisoned long ago.

      Really, these people are way past even being able to be shamed by their behavior. You or I couldn't do it, but these can, and sleep like babies each and every night.

      T'was ever thus.

    • Doesn't a true friend step in and let you know when you've gone off the rails, even if it hurts to hear the truth? What Hagee & Foxman are describing isn't friendship, it's co-dependent enabling.

    • At least it wasn't Tom Cruz.

    • Too much money to be had to cram into just one event, apparently.

    • Yeah, I've seen the trailer. Doesn't interest me. Wish they'd all buy and island somewhere and leave the rest of us in peace.

    • Yeah, I remember that one.

      People like Cruz just make me shake my head. That people actually voted this clown into office is the really scary part.

    • Considering who's going, getting left behind would be a blessing.

    • From the list of people at that shindig, it seems that our nation has turned upside down and all of its worst elements have oozed straight to the top. Have we already worn-out the term "disgusting" to accurately describe it?

      Americans better wake up. I still ascribe the current situation more to ignorance than to compliance. Ignorance can be taught; you can't do anything with plain old evil.

  • Elizabeth Warren visits Netanyahu, even as he undermines US negotiations with Iran
    • Your depression is well-informed and valid.

      Congress Passes $225 Million in Extra Military Aid to Israel. Which 8 Had the Courage to Vote No?

      Anyway, the bill, of course, passed the Senate by unanimous consent.

      The House, however, took a vote on it. It passed easily but not unanimously: 395 to 8. Only 4 Democrats and 4 Republicans voted against it.

      The four Democrats were Keith Ellison (MN-05), Zoe Lofgren (CA-19), Jim Moran (VA-08, and Beto O'Rourke (TX-16).

      The four Republicans are Justin Amash (MI-03), Walter Jones (NC-03), Tom Massie (KY-04), and Mark Sanford (SC-01).

      The four Republicans are all hardliners when it comes to spending, especially on foreign aid.

      DailyKos.com

    • That Jew = Money taboo is a really strong one, especially for those times when it's true.

    • In a shooting war between Israel and the United States — the mind reels at even the idea of that happening considering how the parasite can't benefit from the host dying — I couldn't imagine there even being any sidelines, could you?

      BTW, I have dual American/Irish citizenship, I'm left-handed and my favorite color is a rusty brown.

    • . . . providing ample fodder, if any is needed, to those who believe that Israel controls Congress in the first place.

      The wording here is just too precious. "To those who believe . . ."

      "To those who believe that lobbies exert influence on politicians."

      "To those who believe that American Zionists donate massively to political campaigns."

      "To those who believe that to criticize Israel is to commit political suicide."

      To those who believe that a campaign visit to AIPAC is required in order to be taken seriously as a presidential contender.

      These aren't beliefs; they're realities. Pretending they don't exist is one more reality we're not supposed to acknowledge.

    • I'm thinking that if she could actually stand up and say what needs to be said about Israel, that lots of Americans, feed up with the usual BS, would be able to fund her campaign directly, the way that Dean was able to do when he largely circumvented the democratic machine back in 2004. He was torpedoed by the media, that fed into his "he's crazy" meme with one tape and crowd noise-cancelling microphone. That got us the safe Kerry, who couldn't even win, at that.

      If we take the need for Zionist money off the table, that still leaves the Zionist media that would do anything possible to portray Warren in the worst possible light. Could this, too, be overcome?

      With all the changes happening on campuses combined with the larger numbers of Americans who seem finally fed up with Israel's non-stop wars and kvetching, I have to feel that the time is right for that one special person to step forward. That person may not be Warren, and maybe 2016 is a cycle too soon, but I could at least see this happening eventually, especially if the amount of money thrown away down the Zionist black whole could be highlighted in the campaign. That, most Americans could understand and sympathize with.

    • I think that's been revised to the art of getting elected.

    • At least that serves a purpose. I can't say that Warren's actions do.

    • Textbook definition of an elite. They all are, unfortunately.

    • Some progressive.

      I will not vote for any candidate who places the welfare of a foreign country above our own. When that foreign country is a rouge state like Israel, that goes double.

      (I'm sure Warren will stay up nights agonizing at not getting my one vote.)

      At the very least, I hope that she continues to be routinely shamed for her moral dwarfism.

    • It is indeed disgusting. You'd think an expose would be in the offing. Americans might like to know where their tax money is going as their infrastructure crumbles and their kids' schools have to do without textbooks.

      Israel is a very dirty secret inside Washington.

    • Warren is a huge disappointment.

      She's just trying to follow Obama's footsteps.

  • Efforts to suppress Palestinian activism on US campuses won't work
    • Nothing you've said justifies Zionism.

    • The final act of a tired play.

    • Wow. Great news!

    • Finally, a way forward . . .

      I read this article with a big, goofy smile on my face. Really.

      Seeing the desperation that Zionism exhibits in this article, crumbling in 20 directions because the usual BS isn't working, all because of a bunch of young, brash, swashbuckling activists armed with nothing more than a couple of signs and a notion of the truth, is a tonic to the soul that can only be enjoyed and marveled at.

      Sooner than we think, that old Churchill quote may be relevant again:

      "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

    • Isn't this guy's timing just glorious?

      +1 on the popcorn.

    • Wonderful.

      Fake checkpoint = Couldn't sleep for weeks.

      Real checkpoint = Can sleep like a baby.

      Something's wrong here.

    • Please define terrorism and anti-Semitism for us, please. It should provide hours of merriment.

  • The Minds of Others: An interview with Max Blumenthal
    • I wonder if MRW knows how much his 1950's comic book is worth?

    • Without reading the actual text of the resolution, I think it's the second word, racism, and not Nazism, that the US would find objectionable. I'm not defending the decision, but in the minds of the American Elite, who still haven't quite gotten to that post-race place that we keep hearing about, holding a standard of race would naturally give these same people pause.

      Remember, we haven't signed on to the Rights of the Child or whatever it was called, either. Or the one banning the use of landmines, since so much of our defense of South Korea depends on them. We're falling down in a lot of places, especially where international standards are involved.

  • A handful of Wellesley students are trying to shut down discussion of Israel/Palestine
    • Just ~

      Exactly! We don't really want "peace," we want "peace talks" while Israel gobbles up more land and kills more Palestinian civilians.

      Another one is "balance." Any attempt to chain the Israeli King Kong in the UN is rejected on the grounds that the initiative "lacks balance."

      Israel bombs the crap out of Gaza with full battlefield weaponry and Gaza fires a few missiles which don't do anything and the US calls for both sides to "show restraint."

      My God, I just realized that the United States is just one big Jordan Hannink.

    • Annie ~

      Jon's comment is so ridiculous on its face that I can't imagine that even he really believes it. I haven't been around here for that long, but it seems most of these counter-commenters here on MW fall into the same category, which makes me wonder what their real intent is in posting here?

    • Whoops — there go the endowments . . .

    • I don't think they're frightened children as much as they think they're exceptional and can't believe that the rest of us can't see it, too.

    • Hey, jon, since you're so great with signs, what's it a sign of when you engage in dialogue over a period of decades and your opponent's settlements just keep expanding all the while?

      That's a sign that dialogue with close-minded fanaticism is a waste of time.

    • False claims? Of what do you speak?

      (Hophmi's bonus hidden thesis = The American Jews are the underdogs in this. Hilarious.)

    • I bitch about this every February, and there's really no alternative to vote for to change it, since most every congress-critter is in on the con.

      Talk about taxation without representation . . .

    • As a non-Jew, I had no idea what the Seder was about. Thanks for posting your comment.

      Seems like Zionism in Israel is really giving Jews a black eye.

      Kind of sadly ironic, I guess you'd say.

    • You're probably right.

      If I could get in a room with them and talk to them for maybe five minutes, I'd have a pretty good idea which it is.

      If you aren't exposed to any push-back on long-held assumptions, and all of a sudden you're surrounded by people from all different backgrounds and beliefs, I believe that could scare the crap out of you to be suddenly so challenged. But if your beliefs are defensible ones, it shouldn't really be much of a problem.

      If, on the other hand, you're defending Zionism, well . . .

    • the tactic to shut up the conversation is older than you students are. keep on doing what you do!

      Great point. It really seems like this is where the future of Zionism in America will be either won or lost.

      The logic here is self-defeating:

      Zionism is ugly.
      It makes people angry.
      It makes those embracing it unpopular.
      Rather than examine & repudiate Zionism, close down the discussion about Zionism.

      Oh, the times, they are a-changin' . . .

    • Great point.

      I had the same reactions when I read the other story here on MW dealing with this. We never really got any concrete instances of unsafe behavior. No attacks. No assaults. No incidences. It was all very cotton candy. I would have thought that if something untoward had really happened, it would have been documented and reported.

      Instead, we just got a bunch of squishy "claims . . ."

    • Bingo, ABC.

    • This story beautifully details what we all suspected, that there was quite a bit on demonizing going on in an attempt to prevent a pro-Palestinian message from being aired at Wellesley. You're fighting for your cause in the best possible way.

      In a maybe not-off topic aside, I can't help but thinking where alum Hilliary would come down on all of this.

  • Poster questioning Zionism makes her feel 'unsafe', Wellesley student says
    • I agree — great comment, although in fairness to Yonah, I'll remind you that we should all be discussing abortion right now.

    • Careful, Marnie. Your description of symptoms just might make someone feel uncomfortable.

      Keep it civil, would ya?

    • "I've never been in a crowd like this. They're nuts."

    • Yonah ~

      Where you see one dimension, there is instead a limitless expanse.

      Your desire to control the dialogue here mirrors nicely the desire of Ms. Hannick to control what happens at Wellesley.

      Jewish students want to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict, she said. “But it is an issue we want to discuss respectfully and without polarizing” the community. SJP leaders “said they were uninterested in these kinds of dialogic conversations.”

      Communication is fine, but we're talking about communication only within certain, prescribed constrictions, which understandably didn't interest the SJP, or — and here's the part that's sure to get your attention — hardly serves the interests of the larger community.

      Maybe you're aiming your communication obligation paeans to the wrong group.

    • Yup. They sit on a pretty lofty perch, and now the natives are restless, and they won't even dialogue about it!!!!

      Call the Mothership! I'm losing control!!!"

    • I think you got it.

    • That was a Jewish-Arab group, not a Zionist-Arab group. SJP divides campuses and works to make them unsafe for Jewish student organizations.

      From the same Haaretz story:

      “We’re trying to figure out how to respond to what’s going on” at Wellesley, said Berger. “Things that are central to our identity are being attacked, including the existence of Israel as a Jewish state."

      Note: Rebecca Berger is a senior biology major, and the new Jewish representative on the college’s multi-faith council, which brings together students from each religious community on campus for weekly discussion.

      haaretz.com

      So here's the Jewish member of the campus multi-faith council, sounding a whole lot like a Zionist, wouldn't you agree? Yet I bet you anything she presents herself as a Jewish representative, not a Zionist one. Actions speak louder than labels.

      You have to remember, that the pro-Israel crowd still represents the establishment view, and to be challenged is always going to be disconcerting. I say, tough. As the group trying to break through that establishment, Palestinian supporters naturally have to use different methods, and not just talk themselves to death in a process that's only designed to maintain Israel's establishment position.

      Same thing happened on campus with the Vietnam War, as you'll recall. Got quite messy sometimes, but it was something that had to happen.

      So does this.

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