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I believe in universal principles. Things are either just or unjust regardless of what race, ethnicity or culture is involved

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  • Charlottesville is moment of truth for empowered U.S. Zionists (who name their children after Israeli generals)
    • Hi jack.
      There is already 'something better'. Jews live equally in the US UK and other European states. I will fight for their right to continue to do so. They will continue to fight against my right to live in Israel because I'm not Jewish. What's wrong with this picture?
      The idea of a Jewish state is racial hierarchy and ethnic purity. Simply racism.

    • I agree with the article, but I think more important than putting pressure on the Wolf Blitzers of the world is to pressure the new media (or at least equally important). Shows like Secular talk, the young Turks and the David Pakman show.
      Of those three, Kyle Kulinsky of Secular Talk has become a lot better on Palestinian rights. His heart's in the right place, I think he was just ignorant of the real situation previously. He's now in favour of BDS but still calling for a twi state solution and unclear on the formation of Israel and the very racist nature of Zionism.
      The young Turks are the same. Cenk is pretty good, but again not clear on the intrinsic racism of Israel, I believe he still thinks being a Jewish state can still somehow be a liberal idea.
      David Pakman is terrible on this. He's great in every other issue but blind to Israel. It must be pointed out to him again and again that what Richard Spencer and the alt-right want for the US is what Israel 'is' and has already done. He even had Spencer on his show who said he wanted a 'white zionism', Pakman changed the subject so fast!!
      This is where the young millennials are getting their news and opinions not Wolf Blitzer

  • How to love Israel: 'Sometimes it'll hurt-- bad, but I will not walk away! I will not let you go!'
    • Utterly loony.
      Do these people actually listen to the stuff they come out with!?!
      So bored with arguments about saving the soul of Israel. It's like worrying that a rapist will get their character damaged by committing the rape.
      I don't care about israels soul. I care about the Palestinians being denied human rights. That's what matters. Everything is upside down with this lot

  • 'Constructed crisis for political ends': anti-Semitism claims are prime weapon for UK Israel lobby, Al Jazeera shows
    • Hi Hophmi.
      It's not that there's no antisemitism in Britain, it's that there's very, very little on the left which is traditionally against all racism.
      There's anti-semitism on the right, but this has left us brits scratching our heads wondering why it's the left being attacked. Then we realise that the left supports human rights and follow the dots.
      Best.
      Hungry dave
      London

  • Jared Kushner fired me over Israel ten years ago
    • Brilliant. I will remember this. I've had the same thoughts but never realised how to enuncia it so clearly.

  • Alan Dershowitz has threatened to leave the Democratic Party if Keith Ellison becomes chair
  • Resolution for 2017: Stop substituting 'the occupation' for 'Zionism'
    • May is awful, but unfortunately as much as I'd like him to, Corbyn seems unlikely to unseat her. Sadly this country is full of Tory voters. our best hope is now some sort of progressive alliance or that the brexit fallout does for the Tories.

  • Trump 'has no business being president' because he would be 'neutral' to Israel -- Clinton tells AIPAC
    • The reason Trump said he's neutral is because he's stupid and doesn't know the political landscape of foreign policy. Of course it's common sense to be neutral right...? Wrong.
      Now he's been filled in about the crazy world of US relations with Israel.
      It's like asking a child. They'd say be neutral, be fair. Poor thing hasn't grown up yet and learned the backwards rules

  • Divestment opponents attack University of Minnesota SJP with swastika graphic
  • Can we take 'Avi does the Holy Land’ seriously?
    • Steve Grover February 29, 2016, 4:13 pm
      Annie,
      She is a lot smarter than you.

      that is extremely rude, irrelevant, unsubstantiated and pathetic. I don't understand why you would post something like that. You didn't come out of it looking good.

    • Echinoccus

      I don't know Silverman or schumer so can't comment, but this is nothing like Borat.

      To understand, look at the comparative strength of who's doing the mocking and who's being mocked.
      Baron-Cohen is a wealthy western Jew mocking Muslims (already under attack) and a very poor Eastern European nation (Kazakhstan).
      By contrast, Avi is mocking wealthy western Jewish society that sends their children off to experience their 'birthright' built on the backs and bones of Palestinians so their kiddies can explore their 'roots' and feel a part of the tribe - that's the bit that makes me want to gag and she targets it and destroys. Also there's an aspect of bravery because it's her tribe too. She seems pretty clued up on the attitudes of these types which makes me think Avi has lived this to a degree and recognised it for what it is and is now calling it out as bullshit. Who knows what repercussions she might get from her family and community for mocking birthright like this. I think she is brave and funny

    • Are you kidding? It's so obviously taking the piss out of shallow birthright types and the plastic idea of selling Israel as a gay friendly, young persons clubbing heaven.
      Am I the only person that sees this as a very clever critique of the western Jewish fantasyland idea of Israel?

    • Echinococus
      The remember the holocaust thing is completely taking the piss out of the holocaust obsession that zionists like the avi character have. That is playing the role perfectly and very clearly mocking it.
      What the American guy says about African refugees is completely true and so is what the Palestinian guy says in the pink washing episode. How do you assume to know their background? Didn't an American Jew called Max Blumenthal spend time in Israel campaigning about African refugees and researching for his book. Do you hate Max Blumenthal?
      Try watching some other episodes

    • I honestly think this is one of the best things i've seen in ages. Americans (and other westerners) don't listen when you tell them about Palestinian rights, it triggers an off switch. Maybe they will listen when their ideology is lampooned in such a clever and funny way. It;s bulletproof, directly attacking back will be seen for what it is - lacking a sense of humour; trying to be funny in return won't work because right-wingers are never funny without being aggressively political.
      This slips through the gaps and brings some points to the general consciousness that I don't think could get through the apathy or barriers of zionism in any other way.

      She needs to stay in character and not discuss her politics, just carry on :-)

      Well done Avi

    • How is it making fun of the weak? It's making fun of the western privileged birthright crew in specific and zionism in general. How are they 'the weak'??

    • I think it's brilliant, she completely nails the whole privileged american jews treating Palestinian land like their own disneyland birthright thing.

      For any zionists getting upset that it's offensive to jews, ask them if they found Borat offensive to Kazakstanis

  • Update: UK petition calling for Netanyahu to be arrested for war crimes reaches 100,000 signatures
    • I signed this a bit ago. I agree that it's unlikely to ever get debated.. At least until Jeremy Corbyn takes power :-) He's been completely consistent on Palestinian rights for 25 years or so.

      #jezwecan

  • In latest thrust at Obama, Netanyahu names UN ambassador who trashed him and said Palestinians can have 'Facebook state'
  • Israel gives out 'security Oscars' at the UN to Iran, Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia and PA
    • No, it's propaganda and childish propaganda at that. What was substantive were the recent leaks about Mossad disagreeing with Netanyahu (and apparently Prosor) about Iranian nuclear capability.
      I'd have thought you'd choose your fights more wisely than rushing in to defend this.

  • The left needs to stop hounding Elizabeth Warren on Palestine, says Warren supporter
  • Zero (0) Palestinians quoted in 'NYT' piece on rift between US and Israel
    • Thanks Hophmi, i'm gonna take that as a compliment. Perhaps we're too dumb to know that we're just 'supposed' to look at these two countries with an automatic predilection for Israel and are now actually looking at the evidence with a fresh perspective. Both Israel and Iran seem guilty of serious human-rights issues, so you're even on that score, but we see the vast harm Israel does on the world stage through it's ever-tightening control and manipulation of the world super-power. We don't want to be dragged into another mid-east conflict, and we don't see Iran initiating one nor dragging us into one on its side.
      Mostly though you have Netanyahu to thank for this. Be honest with yourself, no right thinking person is going to look at Netanyahu and not see a vile demagogue who is literally prepared to say or do anything to get his way. A proven liar who has never presented a case honestly but prefers to manipulate and create fear to win his support, hoping that fear of the other and ingrained stereotypes will always win out over any critical thinking. He appeals to the basest parts of human nature, his victories will always be in sloganeering and ignorance as demonstrated by his UN 'cartoon' because he has no concept of how to present an idea and debate it honestly. He is a sick caricature doing immeasurable harm.
      American leaders and media pretend to find Netanyahu acceptable because of their lobby pressures, and you've gotten so used to the kowtowing you've forgotten that it's just pretend, it shocks you that other countries are less scared to point out that your emperor has no clothes.

  • Video: Racist Israel supporter films himself attacking Toronto students, urinating on BDS poster
    • (Why would an angry protester record a video of himself? And how did the video get published?)

      Because if he's Israeli, society has taught him that the chances of getting in any trouble by doing something like this are close to zero. Most likely any authorities would turn up to support him and the people he bullies would find themselves in a cell that evening

    • If he really did serve in the IDF, i feel sorry for any Palestinians who encountered this racist bully. Calling the police on him in Palestine would probably result in getting arrested yourself, after they team up with the bully.

  • Netanyahu speech scandal blows up, and 'soiled' Dermer looks like the fall guy
    • Sorry, did my example not make sense? I'll be extremely clear.

      I'm proposing a MW website page called "Mondoweiss users information exchange".

      'Pinned', which means it wouldn't drop down the list with older articles so it would be easily accessible from the main MW page.

      Mondoweiss users - You, I, Phil, Annie, Staff, commenters, any user of MW - could post up requests for information relating to the conflict, or comment with answers:

      "does anyone know where i can find a link to that Chomsky speech where he discusses..."

      "Does anyone have a link or numbers for the Palestinian population figures taken by the British in 1920?"

      "How many civilians were killed in operation cast lead?"

      "what percentage of congresssional funding comes from AIPAC?"

      etc. etc. etc.

      The point is, the hasbara crew have their talking points and email lists and support groups to help them debate (or obfuscate). I am suggesting we have a similar thing, but not talking points and rank propaganda, but a genuine factual information exchange. Truth and exchange of knowledge from this community to counter arguments. If you get into a debate and know you read something that relates to the debate you're having and strengthens your point, but you can't find the source to link, or the specific numbers that demonstrate your point, it can be very frustrating. Why not as a community arm ourselves with our shared knowledge to get truth out there more effectively?

      We can't just start peppering questions all over MW articles because it would be off-topic. That's why it needs to be a separate article or pinned page where any questions and answers about anything relating to the the I/P conflict are welcome

      Hopefully i have explained this properly this time? Seems to me like a really effective idea that would be easy to implement.

    • Hophmi: What's your position on whether Israel and KSA are afraid of Iran throwing a nuke at them, or whether they're afraid of a power shift in the region?
      I'd be interested to know...

    • Hi Phil and Mondoweiss team. I would like to make a suggestion for the website if i may.

      I think it would be great to have a pinned post, open thread for information exchange. This information could be provided by Mondo Staff and/or Mondo Commentators.

      For example, just now i was trying to find some information regarding the percentage split between congress funding from Jewish Zionists and Christian Zionists. Unfortunately, i've been unable to find this info yet. If there was a pinned post for information exchange on the website, I would simply ask my question and check back later to see if anyone had commented or had supplied a link.

      In short, there's so much knowledge here, it would be great to be able to access it without being 'off-topic'.

      I'm no web-techie, but it seems to me that it would be very easy to facilitate this - although possibly a thread with so many comments would be a problem? I don't know.

      What do you all think?

      Cheers

  • In 'NYT' tale of two mothers, the occupation is a human-relations problem
    • i actually didn't think it was too bad by Rudoren standards, however this bit:

      Asked what she would say to the mothers of the abducted Israelis, Ms. Dudeen started with, “If there was a kidnapping,” reflecting the rampant Palestinian suspicion that Israel staged the whole thing as a pretext for routing Hamas from the West Bank.

      Has there been any evidence that there was a kidnapping yet? Maybe i've missed it, but if there still hasn't been any evidence, then what Ms. Dudeen says is actually accurate rather than Rudoren's implication that Palestinians are 'rampantly' engaging in fictional conspiracies. That's how i read it anyway.

  • What's your politically-correct World Cup bracket?
    • "England was no surprise."

      Ouch. It's nice that you lot across the pond are finally getting into footy, but there's no need to be mean, at least we train up your best players in the premiership for you.

    • no, they lost to brazil on penalties

  • Hillary Clinton's flipflop: We were wrong to take hard line against settlements
    • Of course Netanyahu hates Obama. Netanyahu is a very racist man and Obama is black. There's no particular reason to believe that Netanyahu's racism starts and ends with the Palestinians, they're just more commonly on his radar.
      Netanyahu didn't like being dictated to by a black man, which is why he went to all that effort to humiliate Obama and show him who's the boss, standing ovations in congress etc.

    • The problem for Hilary is that the Israelis are so spoiled now that nothing short of declaring all of "Judea and Samaria" for the jews and sponsoring a UN resolution that declares palestinians to be a non-human, non-existant people will please them. Hilary won't be able to go that far because she also has to consider diplomacy with other countries that would be outraged by such an announcement, not to mention a democratic base that is shifting left on this issue.
      Remember that there are a sizeable number of people in Israel that consider Netanyahu a traitor for even talking empty words about a two state solution and consider Derschowitz an anti-semite for acknowledging that there is an occupation.
      As Obama found out, it's not enough to just hand the Israelis a stack of cash anymore, nothing short of complete devotion to them and their narrative will soothe their anxious souls.

  • Journalistic malpractice: Washington Post suggests Abbas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist
  • Thousands denied water in Jerusalem as California Gov signs energy pact with Netanyahu
    • Haha yeah, and a few of our British pols need the same treatment.

      Also i don't post often so i'll just quickly take the opportunity to say thanks for all the great articles Annie and keep up the good work :)

    • I have this kind of daydream, that after apartheid is all over, and the chokehold on american politicians is cut, there's going to be a lot of newly informed members of the public wanting to know what the hell these guys were doing declaring love for Israel all the time at the expense of the USA. All these pathetic sell-outs will be falling over themselves to explain how they were just following orders, and everyone else did it, and others were worse and begging forgiveness as the lobby had them gripped so tight. Old TV interviews will be played while the politicians cringe watching themselves do the donkey then face questioning over what the hell they thought they were doing

  • A model factory for a colonialism in trouble: the SodaStream saga revisited
    • "the whole point of RoR in Israel proper rather than in the West Bank is to force Israeli Jews to live under a government they despise."

      How can they know they would despise it when they have no idea who the individuals would be? Israelis quite like right-wing stuff, you could have a really right wing neo-conservative Palestinian majority government... who knows?!

      Of course, right or left, a Palestinian majority government would almost definitely mean the end of jewish privilege. They might not like it, but sometimes you have to deal with democracy - racists in america don't like having a black president, but they don't really have a lot of choice because he was democratically elected. However, all rulers want to be loved rather than feared, so I think it's a good idea for Israel to start a truth and reconciliation process as soon as possible. Also maybe start on a constitution which recognises both the suffering of jews and palestinians and their shared connection to the land and guarantees both groups protection in the new liberal state of Israel/Palestine including equal rights regardless of majority/minority. A constitution that enfranchises the Palestinians without being forced into it at the last minute

    • "Johansson was the biggest loss for BDS. She didn’t cave nor did she skunk away. Instead she turns out to be a solid Zionist."

      Zionism = settlements??

  • Netanyahu mentions 'BDS' 18 times in denouncing movement and its 'gullible fellow travelers'
  • The Israeli Occupation Presents: IDF Diversity Week
    • Hi Hophmi.
      Of course there are exceptions, but presumably you can see why Palestinians don't want to join the IDF. With more than 50 Israeli laws that discriminate against Palestinian citizens of Israel, constant reference to them as a demographic threat and Netanyahu pushing hard to make everyone accept that Israel is the 'jewish state', he's hardly signalling to them that they're included as Israelis. When Netanyahu refers to defending Israelis, he's not talking about protecting PCOI from price tag attacks or discriminatory policy.
      I don't think i'm saying anything particularly controversial here, i wonder if you can agree with this or do you feel that PCOI's are included as Israelis and when Netanyahu speaks about defending Israelis, he's also talking about defending PCOI as well?

  • Kerry's framework according to Friedman and Indyk (Updated: Abbas Weighs In)
  • Stephen Harper's Criticizing-Israel-Is-Anti-Semitic screed is exploded on CBC
    • Harper tells the same old lie

      "Abbas: no jews in a future palestinian state"

      What Abbas actually said was "no Israelis", specifically referring to soldiers and settlers.

      If they want to live in palestine, they will be palestinian-jews and their nationality will be Palestinian not Israeli

  • Rabbi raises 'dual loyalty' question-- and all hell breaks loose in DC Jewish community
    • She's brilliant, very calm and dignified

    • I find your argument utterly baffling.

      You have spent zero time actually considering the accusation of dual loyalty on a person by person case.

      Your entire argument is that because jews were wrongly accused of dual-loyalty in the past, it is now literally impossible for them to have dual loyalty. An equivalent argument could be: because black people have been wrongly accused of murder in the past, it is now literally impossible for a black person to have committed a murder. And you go further, not only is it impossible for a black person to have committed murder, it is racist to simply hear evidence against that person however fair the trial.

      Let's take jews out of the equation for the moment. Do you believe that there is such a phenomenon as dual-loyalty for non-jews? I would imagine that at some point, a non-jew has been wrongly accused of having dual-loyalty, therefore it ought to be impossible for any non-jew to have dual loyalty.

      Your argument is without merit

  • Mohammed Assaf: 'I have a goal and it's not fame, I want to influence people'
    • This is great if only our (UK) manufactured pop stars had one tenth of his thoughtfulness and insight. My only regret is that this article is not in the New York Times or another mainstream publication - no offence to mondoweiss, which is excellent, but this is what america needs - to see the real face of Palestinians. It's harder to demonise a people when you're confronted with them and see that they're also humans

  • Hadassah author claims American Jews are turning against Israeli military
    • "It bewilders me that.... that diaspora Jews do not offer unequivocal support."

      In 2003 i marched with 1million others in london to protest the Iraq war II. This is because i have a personal sense of morality that is a developed part of my personality. This morality cannot be over-ridden by my government's actions or decisions. If i allowed them to, then my morals would have to change with every changing government. If i allow my morals to change, in what sense can i be said to have morals at all. I never thought of myself as anti-british. Britain is my home, but i don't allow my morals to be dictated to me by David Cameron or Tony Blair. This weird amoral thinking seems to be at the crux of the Israel issue. Goldreich appears to have no morals, At current they are a mirror for Netanyahu, before that Sharon. That is the depth of her soul. Why does she not feel shame to be such a puppet to other's opinions and thoughts.
      Weird

  • Israeli diplomat is 'sick of... self-righteous commemorations for Hiroshima and Nagasaki'
    • It's an interesting situation. I read a piece the other day about the republicans and the tea party. It was making the case that the republicans built up the tea party and allowed it to flourish so they could use it as a tool to create pressure, but now the dog's off the leash and won't be reined in.
      I think there's a similar thing going on in Israel. That opportunist, liar and demagogue Netanyahu has tried to play the nationalists. He's encouraged a situation where racism, hate, incitement and violence are encouraged, but didn't manage to get over the message that you have to pretend otherwise in polite society. They're not all as wiley as Netanyahu and don't get the need to appease the rest of the world. These lunatics just want to scream "Israel is all ours and the arabs must die", they don't want to play coy with the two state solution sham or embrace even hollow paper-machete idols of justice or equality. The poor babies are all confused, they've been encouraged to embrace ethno-superiority by every aspect of the state and Likud, then they see Netanyahu doing his oscar winning I-support-the-two-state-solution nonsense and suddenly their boy Bibi's not right wing enough for them anymore. I actually prefer these rabid drooling racists like Simon Gapso, Seaman and Bennet to slimy manipulators like Netanyahu. They're just spoilt children who don't know how to play the game and soon they'll be running the show which is very bad news for the liberal zionists in the US, which in turn is good news for justice, democracy and anyone wanting people to have informed choices.

    • That's not true. The guardian doesn't have a comments section for its news stories, only for opinion pieces. I think Harriet's pieces qualify as opinion sometimes and news others so it depends.

      I grant you that it is highly moderated, and comments are closed overnight, largely because hasbara agents (from cifwatch - lol - what a bunch of losers) report any comment that's not utterly pro israel so the guardian probably needs more staff to cover I/P pieces.

      The UK is largely either not bothered or pro-palestinian these days. There was a sea change around the time of cast lead. I'm old enough to remember when public opinion here shifted over Sinn Fein and the IRA, and it feels a bit like that. There's still some zionist pressure on politicians, but it's minimal compared to the US. Obviously there's still a lot of pro Israel power in the more right wing establishment, the atlantic bridge, multinationals and weapons companies linked to the US etc, but it's obvious that Cameron has to walk a fine line between that and public opinion. I think the tory position at the moment is trying not to seem too pro-israel while manoeuvring where possible to stop any of Israel's consequences coming back to bite it which curries favour with their military and corporation links. It's nothing like America where politicians often seem more pro israel than pro america. I even heard the phrase 'america-firster' being bandied about by John McCain as if americans should put Israel first over the US! Mental! And he says it openly as a point of pride. That wouldn't wash in the UK. I think the excessive hasbara postings on the guardian are because it has a large american readership. In short, all the hasbara eggs are now in the american basket.

  • Smarting at Israeli's reception, Florida school says students must not interrupt a 'lawfully invited' speaker
    • RE: hypothetical whereby a palestinian freedom fighter's speech is interrupted by pro Israel demonstrators.

      Hophmi says they would respond in "exactly the same way".

      So Hophmi, let me get this straight. In all honesty, you believe that the hypothetical pro-israel demonstrators would be sent by the university to a hamas or islamic jihad re-education centre in the US to learn about their perspective on the conflict and Islamaphobia.

      You can't seriously believe that! Can you....?

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