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Word to the wise: don't mention the common sense approach of imposing a no-fly zone on the Israelis to protect the Palestinians from predation.
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This editorial totally misses the point.
There was no disagreement between Goldstone and the Israelis that large numbers of Palestinian civilians were shot, bombed, and burnt to death.
The fundamental BASIS of the disagreement and the reason Israel went ballistic and the world community responded with shock and revulsion was the (well substantiated) claim in the report that Israel killed civilians intentionally. This goes to the very heart of Israel's incessant mantra: "unlike the 'terrorists' WE only kill innocent people through regrettable accident. "
Goldstone's recantation turns a well orchestrated massacre of civilians and destruction of civilian infrastructure into an unfortunate but necessary byproduct of Israel's justified use of force.
The disgusting fact is that the Israelis are RIGHT to say that Goldstone's recantation renders the Goldstone report, as a condemnation of Israel's actions, null and void.
Huh?????
..sounds to me like a defense of Goldstone's abominable lies. The hundreds of Palestinian police cadets targeted for murder in the opening minutes of Cast Lead ALONE leave no doubt that the Israelis engaged in a premeditated massacre.
What's the difference? What is their meaningless sovereignty going to buy them? We're currently raining bombs on yet another sovereign state--Libya, having massacred a million people and permanently destroyed the sovereign state of Iraq. Obama didn't even consult Congress about the matter.
As to the UN General Assembly, 50 years of votes all-but-unanimously condemning Israeli terrorism and demanding basic rights for Palestinians have amounted to zero. I'd be curious to know why anyone thinks this will be any different.
"My first guest for this series, the Israeli historian, Professor Ilan Pappe, told us that he had taken his leave of Israel because the lives of his two young sons as well as his own life were being threatened.
My guest tonight is another man who receives death threats from supporters of Israel right or wrong for daring to tell the truth they want suppressed. He is one of the world’s best, most courageous and distinguished journalists. Our paths crossed for the first time more years ago than either of us care to remember when we were covering the war in Vietnam. He is John Pilger."
link to vimeo.com
Jews and Nazis were also both seeking what you call "operational success." By your warped reasoning , that means their aspirations ought to be weighted equally.
That is because you are a fanatic and a pro-Israel psychotic.
Unverified by whom?
Pappe talks about it in an interview. He says that he is willing to risk his own life for the sake of his convictions, but not the lives of his two sons, who were threatened with murder if he stayed in Israel.
He now teaches at Exeter in the UK.
From here on out, it's more or less a waste of time to report on Israeli atrocities in the Occupied Territories. The standard response is certain to be: "sure--that's what Justice Goldstone claimed in the most authoritative report ever to expose Israeli wrongdoing, before Goldstone recanted the whole thing."
We ought to be clear: Goldstone has single-handedly demolished DECADES of public awareness-raising concerning Israel's stomach-turning violence against innocent people. The move gives such an astounding boost to Israel's ongoing, consequence-free assault on life and limb, one could be excused for wondering if the whole thing was cooked up from the beginning by the Mossad (or one of the other innumerable, Nazi-inspired organizations so common to that hideous state).
The Israelis told Ilan Pappe they would butcher his two children. That is the reason he fled Israel, though he most certainly has NOT recanted a word of his findings, outlined in his book "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine."
I have no sympathy for Goldstone. He has actually managed the impossible—to outdo the Israelis in terms of utter depravity. After all, Israel denied that Cast Lead was a massacre. Goldstone showed that it WAS a massacre and then said Israel was entirely justified in committing it!
Whoops!
I said some stuff about Al Capone that was totally untrue! He's actually a wonderful, upstanding citizen...one of the most honest and law abiding people you'll ever meet!
I've learned my lesson and will never again seek to "de-legitimize" him.
I think we have finally reached the point where it is legitimate to use the terms "illegal settlers" and "Israelis" interchangeably.
They have to go. The idea of them living in peace and harmony alongside anyone has become absurd. They are not capable of it.
They don't have the right to defend themselves from the reprisals of their victims--the people whose land they are stealing, whose orchards they are bulldozing, whose citizenry they are terrorizing and torturing. I reject any such right.
The rights of Israelis at this point can be summarized in two words. The first word is "pack" and the second word is "leave."
Pack and leave. Get out and don't come back.
Those are the only "Israeli rights" we should uphold.
Shame on Norman Finkelstein for preaching the absurdity that a self-professed Zionist hoodlum like Goldstone should be a spokesman for justice and the rule of law.
Shame on ALL of us for being hoodwinked by this Zionist and career criminal who belongs behind bars.
The damage done by Goldstone's sickening about-face is simply incalculable. It is ALREADY being used as justification for future (imminent?) massacres of Palestinians:
“The one point of light regards future actions,” Gavriella Shalev, a law professor and most recently Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, said on Israel Radio. “If we have to defend ourselves against terror organizations again, we will be able to say there is no way to deal with this terror other than the same way we did in Cast Lead.”
Let us at LEAST learn something from the the repulsive Goldstone episode.
ANYONE who professes love for Israel. who declares themselves a "friend of Israel," who claims Israel "has the right to defend itself" and so on and so forth while simultaneously pretending to stand for justice and human rights is either a liar or a schizophrenic.
Goldstone had to either renounce Zionism and condemn Israel without equivocation, as all decent people must, or he had to abandon any pretense of being a moral human being, devoted to justice. He chose the latter.
Let us in the future guard against similar betrayals.
It's not as though anyone really NEEDED another reason not to read a talentless lout like Atwood, but thanks for the info all the same.