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  • Understanding the Partition plan
    • With all due respect Mr. Fincham, the problem is, that the security concerns that I elaborated upon on one hand and leaving of the territories on the other hand are in a “chicken and egg” kind of relationship -namely, in the context here, which should come first (you seem to suggest that the latter be so). And that`s exactly the core difficulty, the Gordian knot, of the process here - cannot be just bypassed by positively sounding slogans. If you had lived here throughout the second Intifada (which actually came on the heels of the Oslo accord) you would surely understand that much better.
      Note also that the heartland of Israel proper, the Green line, is less than 10 miles wide at its center (the main vulnerability in the Intifada times) and moreover the whole area could be subject to mortars, Gaza style, from anywhere across the Green line – altogether, having the potential to disrupt life completely in Israel. That`s the story in a nutshell.

    • I agree that a federation is the reasonable arrangement and, indeed, that has been a tacit policy of Israel for a long time. However, the Palestinians for a long time blocked it through demands on Israel that it could not satisfy due to mainly security concerns (which the second Intifada made iron-clad in Israeli mindset – blocking any venue for that happening again, at all costs, has become a sine qua non for any approach).
      But apparently the Palestinians cannot agree to such an arrangement formally for a host of reasons so it is likely to happen by default – a continued stalemate that evolves into a new reality. The total chaos in the region around, which not only dwarfs the Palestinian case at large, but also gives fresh perspective to the West-Bank people about possible alternatives, will surely help that process.

  • The extremism of the center in Israel
    • Such far-reaching conclusions from of two relatively minor events? I understand that the analysis here tries to take a long-term perspective but still anchoring that to these two events, as a kind of the “ultimate proofs” casts doubts on the ingenuity of it all.
      It clearly transpires that the writer is yet another subscriber to thoroughly anti-Israel attitudes in some quarters in Europe, which by that continue a historical tradition where somehow the Jews are always at fault. Be it in religious terms (brought to an extreme 5 centuries ago in the country where the writer now lives), in national loyalty terms (“dual loyalty”, Dreyfus), power ambitions (“the elders of Zion), financial greed (Shylock), morality (the blood libel), morality (the blood libel) or as an ethnic group at large (Nazism) and now, yet again, as a sovereign nation.
      This time around however, with Europe past its world dominance and influence this deep ingrained attitude seems more pathological than ever - a "last try" of the same, which only serves to expose the nihilistic hollowness of its historical whole.

  • Inside a CUFI Summit: Christian Zionists dance the hora and prepare for end times in Washington DC
    • @just “so much hate and elation”
      Are you kidding me? Isn`t it hate what YOU are doing all along? You have just been enthroned the King of One-sidedness.
      These guys do it out of LOVE, not hate, with no self-interest involved at all. No matter how Jungle-like the world has turned into there will always be somebody holding the torch in the darkness. It also goes to explain why the so much bigger anti-Israel worldwide camp, broadly speaking, has not been able to prevail for generations now – and despite all the infinite energy spent there.

  • Why is Wasserman Schultz, Obama's surrogate, holding out on Iran deal?
    • @Mooser
      Well, if history is a guide they must be friendly… I can remember so many ominous threats in Israel`s past that somehow didn`t come into being.
      And in this case - the Iranians have made too many enemies in the region with their ambitions and are embroiled in too many complicated arenas (Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and of course with the Small Satan itself); They are also not too much trusted by the signatories to the deal, which still needs to be ratified – so it appears that a lot can still go wrong. There could also be new dramatic developments in the general fluid situation in the tremendously volatile Mid-East.
      Anyway that`s what the spirits were whispering to me…

    • @Annie
      Or, also: Awakening; Meeting the devils in the details; Facing realities;….

    • I don`t know, something is brewing here. It appears that this “Iran agreement” is really just the beginning of a process rather than a new definitive turn in it, with all kinds of meaningful developments waiting down the road. It could be a trigger for things that are bigger than what meets the eyes now.

    • Is it possible that this Iran deal will turn out to be a much bigger thing than anticipated? It now involves all the political power centers in the US in a completely equivocal way – it isn`t any more possible to blame the opposition to it on the Republicans or chase the “money-trail” (Sheldon being the common and favorite target here).
      And it`s not only the US here but also other countries are involved, are part of the deal, so it`s a global affair.
      And Obama himself is in its last effective presidency year - the election season is already beginning – and that`s no doubt a factor too.
      And then you have the wrath of Saudis – still a key US ally in the Mid-East.
      And of course you have the complicating Syria war and Turkey now part of a US plan there.
      You start to add up all that and can wonder – just whereto and how far can this saga go? It does not seem now that it will resemble the piece-of-cake Cuba move (of which this one is a replicate).
      In particular, Netanyahu, who looked like the sore looser here, may actually be up to a much bigger thing than previously estimated.

  • In wake of January attacks, French Muslims have been demonized in manufactured 'clash of civilizations'
    • Max`s claim that Israel is playing the Islamophobic card is unfair and shows a biased attitude. Muslims played a big role, although admittedly not exclusive, in anti-Israel campaigns in France. What Israel may be doing – trying to point out to the French public similarities between Israel`s and France`s situations - has nothing to do with hate speech (anti-Israel propaganda style) but is the obvious PR thing to do in such circumstances (advancing Israel`s political interests) .
      In addition there is the side benefit of neutralizing Muslim`s ability to spend too much time on Israel/Jews since it keeps them busy protecting their own backs. Are not both of the above an integral part of conflicts 101?

  • It's time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped
    • @shmuel: “putting the cart before the horse”
      Well, is it not true that Jews throughout their exile time, everywhere in the world, prayed day in and day out (3 times a day) – it`s right in the pray book - for their eventual return to their ancient homeland, re-establishing national sovereignty there? Doing so even when there seemed no practical chance to have that accomplished.

    • @Cigar & Born…
      And the real bonus for the one who wins her heart: You might be entitled to an Israeli passport!!

    • Avigail, I see no reason for you to be afraid. I see that you live in Scotland, which is a pro-Palestinian stronghold, particularly the NSP there (but then, peculiarly, it may have actually, unintentionally, served an Israeli interest in scaring English voters (for other reasons) into the Tories camp – so you can never know in this world who will end up helping you… Maybe you will too…) .
      More to the point I am sure you know that the polemics about the Israel-Palestine saga is almost a century old and so much was written on that – from just about any possible angle possible from either direction – that it feels like there is nothing new you can really add to that anymore (just recycle arguments in the umpteenth time) and that is why I avoid it.
      So putting aside the “who is right” dimension and just turning to your central point in this article, I am pretty sure that you are fully aware of what pleading to the US, and its Jewry in particular, to abandon Israel to its fate would mean for the Jews living there now. A quick glance at what goes on in the Mid-East at large these days is enough here. This glance will also reveal in a comparative manner the conditions of Palestinians living in Israel`s territory versus those of many people, not just Palestinians, in neighboring countries – which should pose yet another question to you in regard to the veracity of this campaign that you pursue here.

    • What can I say, that was my first reaction too. A human being is a human being. This is a great photo – projects the “Israel reality”, which explains how this miniature entity defied all odds and not just survived but thrived.
      Thanks Avigail - I also hope that sometime you will “see the light” and resume your old perspective about Israel (after all you bear a last name that means something to this people and its pre-Zionist torturous history)

  • Greece’s Syriza makes military deal with Israel that only US has made
    • @mooser
      Well, in the conditions of Israel who knows? But at least that will be an interesting twist to the Israel-Arab saga.
      Truly, it`s already happening. There is an altogether order of priorities in regard to Israel in Arab countries – Israel and the Palestinians are now in the back-burner of many. There are also all kinds of (implicit) real close contacts. Things are certainly fluid here.

    • @Cigar: “Is the whole world….
      No, no need to despair and give up on things – what goes on in Syria, Yemen, Libya and Iraq may one day end. And who knows – the Arab world may even one day do a big re-think and come to a conclusion that it was all along pursuing all along the wrong target, while its real problems and treats lie entirely elsewhere.

    • @amigo
      The point is that Greece right now only feels bound, and rightly so, by its own interests. It cannot be threatened anymore by anybody given what`s going on now. Irrespective of Israel, which is sideline show in Greek`s saga, my own feeling is that with all of that the EU has lost a lot of political clout. Given the already strong Euro-skeptic forces (including the coming referendum in Britain), the still weak economies in Southern Europe and the growing Russian ambitions (even beyond Ukraine, e.g. in the Baltic countries)) and the continually weakening Euro - we are going to witness some real changes down the road in the EU structure. The Greeks understand that and hence their independent approach.

    • @scotch
      WOW, what got into you man? Throwing all the truth in the face of people in such a brutal manner with no consideration at all of how hurtful that might be? How merciless can a person be?

    • Syriza is not about being “left” (it took in the Golden-Dawn party) but exclusively about dealing with the economic-financial problems that Greece faces now. It was elected only for this reason and anything that furthers a solution, or rather a relief, there.
      It is in this light that deals with Israel need to be seen. From its angle Israel needs airspace for its modern and large air-force; it does not have too many friends in instinctively anti-Israeli Europe: and its erstwhile real good relationship with turkey, the traditional foe of Greece, is practically over. That`s the realistic basis of the deal (plus all kinds of advantages for both sides) and that`s what Realpolitik is about.

  • Christian Zionists expose their anti-Semitism at conservative summit in Iowa
    • @just “I read plenty about….”
      I am sure. You have undoubtedly developed an extraordinary talent for detecting always just the same one side of the coin… and avoiding like Hell that monster called Reality…

    • To me as a Jew – and one that takes seriously the Jewish heritage and its historical journey -this is not anti-Semitism at all. It is the right of these believers to expect that in the end of times Jews and Christians reunite again - as was the case in ancient times – even if how exactly that will happen has a different Jewish version to it. The Judeo-Christian heritage got horribly distorted in Europe but is now having a comeback in the US, which is also generally the great protector of both the Jewish world at large and the Jewish State in particular. This is something not less than miraculous and I am not less enthusiastic about it the rightly named Christian Zionists.
      The wish of Palestinians to spoil this real special relationship keeps failing and in particular so trying to use the Palestinian Christians in this regard (as in the article) - these people are fully aware that while Christians in the broader Mid-East are in great risk (the community in Iraq has been practically destroyed) – in Israel their rights are fully protected.

  • Leading European thinktank increases pressure on Israeli banks over occupation
    • @ritzl
      The difference between my views and yours is mainly in how we see the history of the conflict that Israel is in. Evidently, you, as many on this site, see Israel as the negative part of the equation while I see the opposite – and I don`t expand here because after 70 years and zillion words written on this subject both you and me understand exactly what this difference is about.
      Regarding Germany, there is no desire to push it into what is improper – that would indeed be immoral. What is expected of it that given how complex and ambiguous the situation truly is – clearly not unequivocal at all – that it would sympathize with Israel and not the other way round – that is, see things Israel`s way (as e.g. as many people in the US do) . After all, and it is here where History comes into the picture, Germany bears great responsibility to a country that many residents of are refugees from what it did in Europe. The Israel saga is the real chance For Germany to take a clear supporting stance – as different from just nice words of regret about what happened in the past. In view of that playing “moral purist” now and ignoring the truly tough circumstances that Israel operates in – just watch what goes on in the Mid-East at large – is not moral at all.

    • “Chickens coming home to roost”. Well, there are all kinds of chickens here. Recommendations is one thing, and the EU boycott threats is already a long saga, but in the end it will come to a moment of truth, which is no other than: will or will not German corporations and banks boycott Israeli corporations and banks?
      Germany is the clear boss of the EU - if it wants it can block or delay (forever) anything - and even if now there is a good (and “morally justified”) case to punish the Jews in Israel (there is no other way to present that since Israel defines itself as the Jewish State) - would not doing that be still quite problematic for Germany?
      Consider the parallel Greek drama – for too many what`s going on there brings up bad memories but Germany feels that it has no choice because of compelling macro finance and political reasons. Now what would be the parallel crucial reasons to do something that will surely garner similar reactions? Exacerbating an image problem that Germany cannot be happy about.
      So the saga is moving on but let`s see what happens when it comes to the true crunch?

  • Democrats are 'uncomfortable' with Iran deal because Netanyahu is so 'influential in our country' -- Rep. Ellison
    • What I wrote applied to the US mainly (that was the article`s topic) but that is also increasingly so in the other “New-world immigration” countries as Canada and Australia. There is also a transformation going on in India, Japan and other Asian countries – where they are beginning to see what goes on in the region here in new ways. Admittedly, Israel has a problem with Europe, mainly indeed W. Europe, where there are instinctive anti-Israel sentiments due all kinds of reasons – historical and present (large Muslim immigrant sector).
      The has been a long anti-Israel propaganda campaign, in regard to how the conflict with the Palestinians was presented but that kind of gradually collapsing because of general broader and new insights into what really goes on in here and in the Mid-East at large

    • I will never understand how intelligent people believe in this money-trail fairy tale. No money on the world can buy so many representatives for so long. It may lubricate here and there but not much more than that.
      People here are reluctant to admit that Israel prestige stems from its ability to withstand huge challenges of all kinds – doing so at the backdrop of huge failures by many countries (not just in the mid-east) – which for many replicates the frontier spirit that people still long to as a hilarious chapter in US history.
      It conflates with outright interests: Having just one real reliable and truly effective partner is not a small thing in this world- and then there is also the religious dimension (under the powerful Judeo-Christian heritage). For many Israel is no less than “the shining place on the hill” – notwithstanding the continual toxic defamation of it by those that themselves are seen to many as “part of the problem” of the US – an entity, or rather a model, that the support of which appears as a moral, emotional and psychological imperative.
      That` s the only way to account logically for what`s going on.

  • The Iran deal: a triumph of irrationality
    • @ Harry Law
      It doesn`t matter at all how many missiles Hezbollah has because it has a deadly vulnerability – it` stronghold is merely a neighborhood (and Israel has total air supremacy). Just hitting the infrastructure will force people there to flee. So is there something in Hezbollah`s eyes that would worth that such a scenario? Remember that it took Hezbollah many decades to lift the Shias in Lebanon from a low place on the socio-economic ladder there – what would be the point to lose that overnight? Even if the paymasters in Iran demand that.
      As for Iran`s missile look at the map and see that just a half a degree miss will send the missile to Beirut or Gaza (if it does not fall on the way in Iraq or Saudi-Arabia). That is why it was so critical for Iran to keep the Syria base. But that`s gone now and they cannot set anymore safe missiles bases there (also Israel prevents that occasionally). That`s the big missiles scare in a nutshell.
      That`s also one reason that Iran came closer to the US – it`s main deterrence over Israel practically gone. Moreover Hezbollah is now in panic over ISIS – their impact goes right to the very heart of Lebanon (and its sectarian make up plus millions of Syrian refugees). Clearly the missiles are of no use in this regard. In such conditions it is easy to understand that the last thing they would want now is a conflagration with the real advanced entity in the neighborhood.

  • Israeli settlements are a 'war crime,' but ICC dodges the case -- Buttu
    • @Annie
      Just one comment: there is a big difference between somebody`s acts helping you (indirectly) and somebody being your planned tool. Many seem to fail to make this distinction with regard to ISIS vs. Israel and also the US (claiming that ISIS is their design).
      ISIS is, fundamentally, a big problem for everybody, including Israel - only, temporarily, its acts happened to help Israel in certain ways.

    • @Annie
      Well, I was talking about the spirit of things – it`s quite clear to me that there is some kind of a dual approach here.
      More to the issues itself: I think what you write (and your visits` impression) has already become outdated by recent big change in circumstances. The whole situation is in a flux now and both Hamas and Hezbollah appear to be at crossroads, including in regard to any warring designs vis-a-vis I Israel.
      Generally, Hamas seems to be rethinking its whole strategy based on lessons from the past war and the fundamentally transformed relations with Egypt. It is possible that despite all the talk otherwise the West-Bank model could be repeated in Gaza in which case this front can get quiet for a long time.
      As for Hezbollah, it faces too dramatically changed circumstances with the emergence of ISIS and its threats for Lebanon (and the Shias there) and unlike with Israel, where a lot is just rhetoric hype, here matters truly deem existential. In such conditions the last thing they would want is a conflagration with Israel. Clearly as far as ISIS is concerned all those tunnels and missiles mean nothing and it is a sheer irony that they have invested so much in what may have become an irrelevancy in terms of their new real needs – and that applies to Hamas too.
      That`s perhaps far-fetched but I cannot even exclude a scenario where both of the two could see Israel as a help source in regard to ISIS. But isn`t that what already append with Saudi-Arabia (and other Gulf emirates) in regard to the Iran/Shias threat, which made it see Israel in a new way?

    • Ms. Butto must understand, and that must be simple for her if she is a lawyer, that the way this world is run in general is about proportions. Just repeating million times the “crime” term will not make building houses a focus of the world when it also has to tackle in the Mid-East what it sees going on in at least 5 Arab countries.
      Clearly, if you have in a city a whole bunch of neighborhoods with continual killing sprees plus endless number of displaced people and in another neighborhood some people are building houses on areas where the legality of their ownership is controversial – where would you send your police to? And which cases will attract the attention of the Law?
      Just because Ms. Buttu has a personal agenda with the latter will that convince the judicial authorities to act otherwise?

    • Annie, you must recognize that it is impossible to ride these two horses at the same time. In one narrative you have Hamas and Hezbollah as grand players that have managed to outwit Israel with some ultra-clever construct of tunnels with missiles – about which Israel is in the dark - by which they can gain an upper hand over Israel if only they decide so (without anything that Israel can do about it – and that`s where the pickled aspect comes in).
      The other narrative is about a ruthless Israel, with advanced military capabilities, which keep victimizing much weaker antagonists - causing them great harm in conflicts that the whole world should be caring about.
      You seem to have a divided mind here. On one hand you have this great wish to see that these two entities teach Israel a real harsh lesson - cause it great harm and impose through that their will on it - while on the other hand almost everything written in this site is about saving them from Israel.
      Very simply, Annie, you can`t have it both ways.

  • Press can't justify red carpet for Oren tract and blackout for Blumenthal's 'definitive account' of Gaza
    • @diaspora
      It`s only in YOUR mind. I have no intention to insult anybody, directly or indirectly – it serves no positive cause. However, the TRUTH can sometimes indeed hurt, that much I agree.
      Also, since you have raised this point – have not you noticed how Israel is insulted pretty much directly (without too much effort to nice it up).

    • John, the media is a business and what it chooses to focus on is what it thinks would “sell”, namely attracts enough interest. That transcends any other possible motive.

    • Not blocked out, simply 100 books and articles on the Gaza war cannot match an incident like the one in Chattanooga in terms of people`s attention. Likewise the Journalists murder in Paris. It may seem unrelated but that is not so in the eyes of the public. And that`s before we mentioned the ongoing news feeding from Syria, or Iraq, or Libya, or Yemen.
      So, it`s not some deliberate overlooking – simply, the attention span of people, as far as violent conflicts between Muslim groups and others goes, has already passed saturation ages ago.

  • Nine reasons Obama is going to win on Iran. The first: Netanyahu
    • @just
      This talk, by Margolis, of “standing up” to Israel`s lobby is pretty banal. Obama did that with Cuba too – that`s his philosophy. He actually has a point in trying to give chance to apparent “lost cases” since if they don`t stand up to standards things can always be revered. In his case, since he is near the end of his presidency, it will be somebody`s else task to follow up on things.
      Clinton was also pretty indeterminate in regard to the apparent rising threat of Al-Queida during his presidency term and it was left to Bush to deal with that in earnest.

    • My feeling is that some people here don`t understand that this is just the first chapter in a long saga. Please let History speak.
      Something from history: after the annexation of part of Czechoslovakia in 1938, Neville Chamberlain, the UK PM (and at those time the UK was still a sort of leader of the West), arrived in Munich justifying Hitler`s claims over that annexed region and signed an agreement that was hailed by him, upon his return to the UK, as historic and the start of a period of “lasting peace”. The resenting Czech leader was brushed aside as a war mongers and was seen widely as a loser.
      About 7 years later Germany lied in ruins.
      Many will wish in the future to have a chance to swallow their words now.

  • The Israeli Anthropological Association’s desperate attempt to derail the academic boycott
    • All this appears to me pretty much “poor man`s joy” – cherry-picking right at the bottom of the barrel.
      “Desperate attempt”…. – excuse me - I can see negligibly little here in the way of any Silver lining, Isaiah

  • Crisis for the lobby: Clinton bucks Saban, AIPAC doesn't know what to say
    • Let me offer another perspective here. AIPAC and Netanyahu may be playing the bad cop role here since in some sense the agreement is not really bad for Israel too as it may be defusing an insoluble dilemma – Israel does not (or cannot on its own) attack now and Obama clearly decided against doing so. The important thing is that everything is conditional here – on ratification(s), on post-agreement conduct of Iran if goes through - in case of violations it can be revoked - and the situation with the next administration in the US (depending what it will be).
      Also importantly, this agreement does not bind others (Israel and Saudi-Arabia) – they can do what they may think they need to do if they judge that things are not going right.
      If however all goes well and perhaps Iran get transformed in earnest (which is not unfeasible since all kinds of new forces could be unleashed now) then the gamble paid-off.
      So it`s all pretty tricky and despite the hype is still very much a project in progress.

  • Abe Foxman says goodbye to an America of secret Jew haters
    • @mooser
      In fact I agree and in my view that`s what actually happening. But those people are not forced to support Israel. They, and those they represent, do it out of conviction and why should that be surprising? You also cannot expect that they all see things in your way.
      In fact history shows that there always was a minority within Jews opposing its mainstream and not less harshly as you do – so nothing really new here.

    • @marnie
      The reason I raise that point is that I keep seeing here that Jewish voices for BDS, or anti-Israel in general, get prominence - in my view undeservedly so. “Jews are people too”, namely it cannot be expected that all Jews will support it (as the tendency to give prominence to anti-Israel Jews implicitly reveals). What Israel can (and should) expect is that the mainstream Jewish organizations will stand by it and it is here where Abe Foxman and other prominent leaders of the US Jewish community come into the picture

    • Well, citizen, it`s all about history – it, inevitably, has a bearing on the present. Israel is a consequence of the failure of Christian and Muslim countries to treat Jews living there decently – generations after generations. So they wanted to cling together in a country of their own. This force goy coupled with historically lingering-on dreams of Jews to return to their ancient homeland. That`s the story in a nutshell.
      In contrast, countries like the US, Canada and Australia, are new-world global-sourced immigration countries so are free of such considerations – and hence the difference.
      Now look also at the Kurds of today, who also suffered discrimination in their host countries. Many of them hope have a similar goal, which in their case is to combine their Iraqi, Syrian, Turkish and Iranian population and territorial segments into one country – one that then will then have primarily Kurds as citizens and a Kurdish language and culture.
      Of course, in all cases like that having different ethnic minorities within the country (with citizenship) is no contradiction to its overriding characterizing nature.

    • There is something fundamentally wrong in viewing Jews as a coherent collective of people. In reality it is each to his/her own and there is nothing like a Jewish agenda, which Jews subscribe to, or coordination and masterminding of some overall plan. It` s true that there are organizations whose members are Jews, as they are all kinds of organizations based on all kinds of commonalities (e.g. stamps collecting), but in these organizations it is once more each to his/her own in terms of what they do in their private life.
      At the same time though human collectives may indeed differ in regard to some general attributes, e.g. South Italians are considered more spontaneous that Scandinavians, and it is likely that Jewish learning traditions (after all the Jewish nation is called the people of the book) manifest themselves in a conspicuous manner in an era viewed as the age of knowledge.
      Now, there used to be one exception to all of that , which is the coherent support of Israel by Jews when Israel was established and going through big difficulties in a hostile environment (although that is partly a myth too because there were not few Jews who were indifferent to Israel). But that is now weakening and we see Jews for BDS of Israel and even the views of the so called Liberal Zionist are anathema to very many Israelis (despite the sugarcoating they use in presenting themselves as wishing to make the country more moral/democratic/enlightened/peace-loving and alike superlatives).

  • Clinton can't separate herself from foreign-policy buffoons Saban and Adelson
    • Pastor Hagee is a God-sent friend of Israel. And he emerged when some Jews began to desert Israel – doing so in the name of morality but knowingly ignoring the larger picture in the Mid-East. You win some and lose some – but Pastor Hagee in his sincere, intense and interest-free devotion to Israel is certainly in a league of his own. The undersigned (or, rather, oversigned here) is deeply grateful to this great man.

  • The case for US government sanctions on Israel
    • @Giles
      Get real. The problem of Arabia has very little to do with the Jews in the US – they largely stems from altogether other sources. Israel or the Jews is a convenient fig leaf and scapegoat but in the Arab countries themselves they stopped using it (as starkly different from the past) – they know better and got matured out of it (which is a good sign for the future). Some people here don`t seem to have reached that stage.

    • Gandhi was a man of peace. Look at these guys and decide for yourself if the analogy applies.

    • @just, citizen
      Sweet dreams guys. Two more anti-Israel Jews… It appears that the only way to grab attention in this respect is to have Jews support it. But what political clout the Jews for Peace have? If I am not wrong just about all the mainstream Jewish organizations in the US – ADL, JAC, AIPAC, ZOA, HILLEL, etc. – oppose BDS.
      Interestingly, the same phenomenon applies even in generally anti-Israel-inclined Europe - in just about ALL of them the mainstream Jewish organizations stand by Israel.
      In a peculiar way it confirms a broader historical rule, namely that the trans-historical Jewish journey somehow always manages to keep its core intact despite immense external pressures and bitter internal disputes.

  • Time for a Jewish reformation?
    • You have here the two usual flawed argumentations that simply people are not buying and not going to buy.
      Firstly, there is no chance that the S. African case will be seen as a proper analogy to this one. It is different in just about any aspect of it and just keep repeating that (because S. Africa is seems a useful model for some in terms of BDS of Israel) is not going to change that. Apples and oranges.
      Then, the description of what happened in Gaza will always be set in people`s minds against the thousands of missiles from tunnels, located in populous areas, and continuous shelling by mortars of Israeli civilians around Gaza. People have seen that too. But perhaps even more importantly is the continual violence that emanate from the Mid-East, which necessarily places the conflict here in people`s minds in a broader context – one that determines how people interpret it. There is no escape from that anymore, that is no chance to have it considered in isolation (which is indeed sensible).

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  • The BDS Movement at 10: An interview with Omar Barghouti
    • Clarification: I primarily care about Israel, but also not indifferent to the situation of the people in the West-Bank (I firmly believe that in the end there will be some confederation arrangement with it). So just pointing out that the latter is also vulnerable to BDS because even before any political accord is signed, in the economic realm the two sides are already practically integrated (the stomach, or daily life, cannot wait until the brain makes up its mind).

    • @mooser
      You are wrong: it is reality that is dead - at least in the way it is processed in some people`s minds. How else can you explain a phenomenon where supposedly rational people face an unimaginable catastrophe in Syria – in fact, the gradual collapse of Arabia at large – and all what they can see is just one thing, away from that. Unlike vaudeville, this time around it is not entertainment that we are talking about – it is the world we actually live in. What blindness.

    • Blah, there is something called causality in this world. The tougher situation in Hebron is not for no reason. There are strong radical elements there – for instance, they keep voting there for a Pro-Hamas party, which also controls the city. That`s a formula for troubles given Hamas recalcitrant general attitude – and it is not so only for Israel but also for the PA in Ramallah.

    • John, how many times can one repeat that the S. African case was entirely different? Just for a starter: over there a minority of whites lived off the hard labor of blacks, in mines or as personals servants – can you recognize anything like that in the West-Bank?

    • One angle that has been lost on many is the adverse impact of the BDS movement on the very people whose interest Barghouti is supposed to represent. In practice the West-Bank and Israeli economy is one. For instance, Ramallah, where Barghouti I believe lives, it would be news for many (those fed only by intentionally bleak descriptions but has never been in the area) that it is undergoing a period of prosperity. Now just compare that with the misery of many people in a whole range of Arab countries around.
      So those that so much want the BDS to succeed be careful with what you wish for - or else you don`t really care about people just about advancing own political agendas.

  • Saban's PR firm promotes Israel's illegal settlements-- so when will Hillary Clinton condemn it?
    • @oldgeezer
      The nuclear option was adopted when Israel was truly small and with no tech and alike capabilities and also at that time the Arabs seemed intent on undoing it as a top goal. Both are gone now so nuclear, an extreme type of tool, is not seen in Israel anymore as a real “compensator” (just perhaps a psychological deterrent or fitting an unlikely doomsday scenario). Hence, your focus on that is an irrelevancy.
      In comparison, playing the “big league” is a benign and effective “compensator”- it enables Israel to make big strides in financial, tech and security markets and others, so that despite its smallness it can still have access to the top level of global circles in the areas that are at cutting edge of modernity.

    • @ellen
      Strong words. Sounds like you need to change the present ‘world order”: money, market economy, big corporations, politics, control, the military-industrial complex, …, before you can “resolve” the “Israel issue”. It could take a bit of time…
      But there is a bit of truth here. Israel, in order to survive “against all odds” given how small it is (and all the more so was at its onset) had just one real chance – to place itself in the 1%. That compensates for smallness.

  • UK's Block the Factory activists protest Elbit System factories on 1st anniversary of Israel's 2014 Gaza massacre
    • Listen Cigar, if and when you quarrel with your girlfriend/wife and would tell her to listen only to your segment/side of the problems between you and ask her to shut up on her – what she will respond is what I skip here…

    • And what about Hamas` missiles and mortars? Or the arms supplied by the West in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen? And so and on …. Are they all directed at military targets only?

    • The big guys are not going to boycott Israel. Period. That applies to the Republicans and Hillary in the US; the arms guys and intelligence agencies in Europe; the hi-tech and Internet Giants; The military-Industrial complexes all around the world – East and West.
      The reasons: Israel –related problems are dwarfed by others – and many of them – which attract all the attention ; Israel in needed as part of the continually shrinking West for self-interest reasons of the latter; Israel has grown into the US in an inextricable manner – so in most industries separation is already impractical.

  • We are British Jews proud to support today's national demonstration against Israeli armsmaker Elbit
    • I would never understand why a group Jews condemning Israel is news? Anybody expects that all Jews will support Israel? Be Zionists? There always used be bitter splits among Jews and horrific mutual acrimony almost on any topic on earth. As matters stand now the mainstream of Jewish communities in EVERY single country on the planet, the US included, is with Israel (and I even exclude those who claim falsely that they are so). But that does not mean that there is no anti-Israel Jewish fringe - in fact right here in Israel there is one (people with exactly the same views as expressed in the article). Britain and Israel, among others, are democratic countries and that is what you should expect!
      But I am sure next week there will be a similar letter from a group of 15 Jews from Belfast o Cardiff.
      Thanks God we have the 20 million Christian Zionists in the US that stand with us wholeheartedly.

  • 'Why this bullsh-t?' Video of Israeli navy flotilla takeover
    • Zionist national pastime
      I don`t know, I actually think this is a pretty smart country, But I could be biased

    • No, no, on the contrary. These people are trying to produce a for-media scenario where Israel is designed to come out as they want it to be seen - while taking no real risks themselves because they know that they know who they deal with. Should Israel play into their hands and allow this cynical script?
      It would be utterly foolish to do so and it has devised its own way of undoing this ploy while sticking to its norms, namely making all that is possible to let them out unharmed. That should be praised not scorned and I am sure that`s how responsible people around the world (obsessive anti-Israel circles excepted) see it - just note the total silence and zero support despite the artificial hype these guys try to create. Plot failed.

    • So what did these “political voyagers” think? That Israel will allow a bunch of adventurers to make fun of it just because they describe themselves as “human rights activists”? The middle-East is too dangerous a region for such games and the fights there are for real – not “political theater” for the global media.
      The important thing, and the luck of these nut-heads, is that there are no casualties or injuries and that they will be all safe home soon, because it is Israel that they are playing with and wasting time of – and that makes all the difference.

  • New report details UK complicity in Israeli human rights abuses, calls for arms embargo
    • The military export of the UK to Israel has little to do with how it views Israel`s actions and is a matter of how it sees its general interests. The killing of the British tourists in Tunisia is the most recent manifestation of a quasi-WW3 that goes on continually even if by other name. It`s a continual low-intensity warfare, which only keeps getting worse, with all Western countries seeing themselves threatened by it – so have no choice but cling together. Indeed, it includes Western allies in the Arab world, which are also under threat – e.g. Hamas is not just a problem for Israel but also for Egypt and likewise with Jordan. So it is geo-strategic not part of the old and no-end-in-sight Israel-Palestinian conflict.

  • 'NYT' finally acknowledges that 'growing number of American Jews' support BDS
    • This is part of the “normalization” of both the “Jewish world” and Israel. In real crisis times or major historical developments there is a clear necessity to close ranks, “circle the wagons”, and the establishment of a Jewish state and its embryonic phases certainly belonged to this category.
      Are we still in that phase? Of course we are not. Almost a century after the beginning of that process Israel is now a mature state – it has its problems, but who doesn`t? So what we see now is really of little surprise – different people, Jews included, have different attitudes to what they see. Israel has a tremendously committed constituency in the US, composed of Jews and non-Jews – the so called Christian Zionists being a conspicuous part of that - and also people, again Jews and non-Jews, that don`t like it (or what it does for survival in extremely hard conditions – as what goes on in the wider region that it is in clearly demonstrates).
      This development is actually a healthy one an d it`s high time to stop being “surprised” when a Jew is critical of Israel, even denounces it sharply, and give it undeserving prominence. Jews are “normal people” too. In fact, they used to be known for having a huge variety of views and sharp internal disputes about them, as expressed by a traditional “classical”: “Two Jews, three opinions”.

  • Netanyahu issues 'welcome letter' as Gaza flotilla is seized by Israeli navy
    • Well, it`s never too late to set yet another UN Human-Rights-Council investigation committee to look in great detail and maximum scrutiny of this major, major human-right violation affair – right in the Middle-East. After all there are plenty of celebrity witnesses here: European parliamentarians, intellectuals, artists, peace-campaigners, academics, which know exactly where the source of all evil lies – they have too long a historical experience to be fooled or distracted by other quasi-important arenas and world problems

  • When will justice's 'thunderbolt' come for Palestine?
    • @Kris
      I understand the spirit of the article but can also see in the very many ways the 2 cases differ. Primarily, following MLK, black people`s struggle for rights in the US was nonviolent. Now how exactly that compares with the hyper-violence that has throughout emanated from Palestinians?

    • @BBS
      Wrong predictions and misreading of the political map. This feeling that “change is just around the corner”, which I think I prevails on this thread for many years now, is due to a self-inflated bubble that comes from all in it being cooked all the time in the same juice. The people in position and strength in the US, likely the general population too, see urgency elsewhere. Not saving Hamas in Gaza or changing the balance of power in a minuscule West-Bank - all that is yesterday`s big story. Put yourself in their shoes and look at what goes on in the Mid-East at large, nukes getting in the hands of rogues, Putin`s ambitions in Europe, the immense growth of China just to name some – and draw your conclusions.

    • So, let me understand: Is dealing with the Palestinian issue the natural sequel of the response to the killings in the Church? How exactly the 2 are linked - apart from abstract humane notions that in fact links it to a thousand of other issues in today`s world? And even if so and we just restrict our attention to the Mid-East - isn`t what goes on in Syria, Iraq, Libya, The Sudan, Yemen and other countries in this region infinitely bigger in scale and severity?

  • We must break out of the paranoid survival myth
    • @Peter Hindrup
      I don`t agree with the analysis here. Waiting for the US to get weakened so as Israel will too, perhaps undone (as tacitly suggested), is completely misguided. One can see it as a wish, which is common in Europe (where there is a never dying hope, especially in Germany, to reverse the outcome of WW2 and become again the top dog).
      The fundamental flaw in this wish is that it relies on the “all other things remaining the same” false assumption (which people often make when focusing solely on what mainly matters to them). But the weakening of the US, given other geo-strategic forces, will be not just about the US (or Israel). This is not the place to elaborate on what will happen with our world if or when that happens, but you can bet that at that moment the last thing that anyone will be concerned with is Israel. So, as they say, be careful (and this case very careful) with what you wish for.
      Another false assumption is that the US will be compelled to abandon Israel - who is that giant force that will do that or is interested in that? Europe is continually weakening – its ambition to turn the EU into a superpower is getting continually buried in front of our eyes and it is in fact likely that Europe will become even more dependent on the US. As for the eastern powers, as China, Japan or India, they could not care less about the Israel-Palestinian conflict – it`s not part of their agenda. Indeed, some of the bigger and more important Arab countries (as Egypt and the Gulf countries) are beginning to see utility in Israel (e.g. due to their rivalry with Iran and the general Sunny-Shia gulf) so that front can get transformed too.
      Finally, Israel, despite being geographically small, is a mini superpower on its own – let`s never forget that!. We live in an asymmetric-war era and being geographically and population-wise small matters far less now than in the past.

    • @citizen
      That`s clear - can a place be happy with continual warring? And also no doubt by now, after so many decades, all can see what`s goes on. But that`s not the point though. The key question is what people think should or can be done about it – and here comes the real twist. Seeing the general specter of the Mid-East region those every people understand the limited choices Israel faces if it wants to survive – and it is that which translates into the continual and unflinching political and security support for Israel. Is that likely to change? If at all it is bound to get even deeper as the Mid-East continues to slide into ever expanding chaos.

  • BDS will keep Israeli tanks from moving and F15 from flying, Oren says
    • @just
      That`s human nature - it is what decades of warring does to people. The Arab world and the Palestinians have turned Israel into a Sparta - or, rather, an Athena-Sparta mix.

    • @ lonely R, "curious to know"...:
      The star,
      Thunder
      The rain (or the shooter
      ....
      ...

    • @Grover
      Well, brother, that was my first reaction too. You look at that and you feel, as an Israeli, what a long way we have come in just 7 decades– a sense that nobody can beat us. So I second the thanks. The words that follow it are less pleasant but then we know that you can`t have it all – so let`s settle with what we have.

  • Leading NY writer likens Edward Said to monster in a horror movie
    • @JLD
      That`s the “existential threat” to the Enlightenment? What happened to your historical memory? Can`t anybody see that The Enlightenment ha has been undone in WW2 in Europe and that all in this regard is downhill since?
      There are acts that can`t be reversed by just an apology – “sorry, let`s put it all behind and continue as before”. Europe was the torchbearer of The Enlightenment and has utterly betrayed it with the Jews in its midst in the most horrific and imaginable way. Since then Everything “European” is losing ground – the formation of the EU notwithstanding - and it was History`s dictum that not only will they lose their influence on the new world-master, the US, but that also those they tried to annihilate will take their place as its “close friend” .

  • 'Obama coffee' is black and weak -- racist tweet from wife of Israel's vice premier
    • This is just what it is: a joke. Why see it as offensive? Or racist - it contains nothing defamatory about blacks? - Just used the visual fact that Obama is black. Indeed, you need to be racist not to see it that way. I bet Obama is laughing at it

  • Cycles of violence only begin when Palestinians kill Israelis
    • Trying to be as disgusting as possible in mocking somebody`s else greatest tragedy and trivializing it through mean analogies only achieves one thing: You can bet that an Israeli reading that gives up entirely on paying any attention to whatever is claimed in a media organ that allows the publication of such a cheap shot. It seems that some people`s hatred of Israel is only matched by their ill taste.

  • Journey through a fractured landscape
    • This is history in the making except that today, as different from the establishment of the US, Canada, Australia and NZ, it is covered incrementally by a continuous media of a globalized world.
      An also for those in Europe that confess broken hearts in this regard: Is the developing scene in their countries in the relations between locals and Muslim minorities nicer? Just last night an anti-Muslim party won the day in Denmark, joining a general trend. Something to consider before rushing to BDS - would you want that, in view of the above trend, for your own country?
      But even more importantly, what about the general specter in the Arab world around Israel? We live now in one global world now and everything is subject to comparisons, at least because they all usually appear within the same news-broadcast.

  • On anniversary of Gaza massacre UK activists plan to shut down Israeli drone factory
    • Correction: The sign in the picture says; “Stop arming Israel”, but this is not a British-industry factory that supplies Israel with arms. Rather it is a British factory that works for the Israeli industrial-defense complex, which as the article correctly says, has plants all over the world. In other words if the factory is moved elsewhere it will only mean lost jobs for British workers – not stoppage of British produced armament to Israel. That is why it didn`t work last year and this year will be the same.
      It must be understood that it is partly because of the BDS threats that Israel is forced to increase its focus on such industries as they are practically immune to people-level boycott (as agricultural products in stores). So the BDS may actually achieve counter results to what intended and indeed, as the article again correctly says, Israel is already at par with the superpowers of this world in these markets (as also in cyber-related ones, prominently cyber-security).

  • BDS could cost Israel $4.7 billion a year
    • As much as I can remember Israel`s relatively short history has been accompanied throughout with dire threats from its many opponents. Just few milestones (out of many):
      1948: The new country has no chance against 6 Arab armies
      !967: Nasser: The end of Israel is near
      1973: An Arab oil embargo and boycott threats to all countries and companies that trade with Israel
      2000: The rise of Hezbollah. Nasrallah: Israel is weaker than a spider web
      2001: Israel can have no answer to the Second Intifada given the easy access to it from the West-Bank and the flood of suicide-bombing volunteers.
      2009: The new US president, Obama, gives a speech in Cairo. The Islamic world: The Us is about to shift away from Israel.
      2011: Iran`s first nuclear plant is revealed. Iranian Parliament speaker: Tel-Aviv will burn
      2014: Hamas: Israel has no answer to the missiles and mortars from tunnels in Gaza

      And now 2015: The BDS will strangulate Israel`s economy. So if History is a guide…..

  • It's the borders, stupid (forget the BDS hysteria)
    • replace admit with deny

    • @just
      OK, I volunteer. He misspoke – caught in the web of the common anti-Israel propaganda lingo. What he meant to say is that the use of this slogan, in the usual robotic and mindless way that it is done by the legions of the blindly Israel-obsessed is just a mask for their real goal: the very existence of the state of Israel.
      I am sure you will be honest enough not to admit that this is in fact so.

  • Is BDS practicing a double standard with respect to Arab countries?
    • @echin
      Don`t forget to boycott also Intel, Google and all the rest of the hi-tech/Internet giants - their contribution to Israel`s economy even transcends the Pitas and the sodas. And to be on the safe side also throw away all electronic gadgets you have – they are all likely to have some Israeli-made part (almost all Internet security related ones are one way or another originate in or linked to Israel).

  • Obama's disgust for Netanyahu's 'stink' signals coming era of Jewish persecution in the U.S., says 'Tablet'
    • For a change, I agree with the general sentiment here. It is either pseudo-dramatization journalism or manipulation of the anti-Semitic charge where it doesn`t belong.
      As for the prediction that the “golden era” for Jews is over, hat reflects an already genetically-programmed fear of Jews in the diaspora given “old world” experiences – there is always the fear of the elusive stability. But then the “new world” immigration countries are fundamentally different as they are multi-ethnic, multi-religious, built with embedded inclusion of all immigrants whatever their origin country or religion, so “old world”-like bigotry is unacceptable.

  • Human rights organizations condemn Sheldon Adelson-led anti-BDS meeting
    • This is pretty strange. You run a BDS campaign, which clearly wants to hurt Israel and object that people try to counter nit. So even opposing the move is a legitimate cause of criticism? To me that`s contrary to everything democracy is about
      Simply put, today`s anti-Israel campaign has moved from the Mid-East physical arena into the global economic one. You can bet that just as in the former, with its many violent clashes, the same will happen here except that it in the warring here violence will be replaced by other means. But you can also bet since this involves a threat to Israel, a wish to have it strangulated economically, it is not going to be less nasty and this Las-Vegas meeting is the opening salvo here.
      If history is a guide then like in all previous rounds the hitherto one-way nature of this one will soon be replaced by an all-out warfare on the US turf with Israel`s many strong supporters in the US hitting back heavy-handedly. They have the political and economic means to do that.

  • Despite differences, US showers Israel’s new right-wing government with arms and favors
    • @Doubt
      I think you are mixing 2 different issues here. That the modern world is nowadays is run by multinational corporations is a serious subject for discussion – but the part of Israel in that is negligible.

    • Cook is playing naïve here. Throughout history relations between countries were defined by interests – so what else is new? It is impossible to cover the range of realms where the US and Israel are on the same page and cooperate productively. Even if clearly the US is the big brother here the smaller brother has already amply demonstrated that in is an efficient partner, e.g. the assistance it gets is used efficiently, and in the particular US culture that is appreciated and rewarded. What and who serves you best is always retained - yet the writer here is perennially “surprised” by that.

  • Turning Lebanon into Gaza -- Israel's hole card against Iran deal?
    • @oldgeezer (last sentence): Change “common enemy” "a threat”.
      But the point is that the conflict is just less than a century old, a sea drop on historical time scale, and already there have seen huge changes (as you also say) and given the fluid Mid-East that is likely to continue. So no point to rec-chew the old slogans, as many here do as a routine - and keep being “surprised” that what is hoped for never materialize.

    • @bint
      I hate to be the guy with the cold water but you must realize that despite all the talk to the contrary Israel is not “the common enemy” of Arabia – if at all it is the other way round. But some Arabs have talked themselves into that for so long that it is hard to shed.
      The good news is: it appears that unlike in this blog the Arabs on the ground are changing track and Israel is far lower on their list of priorities – some even can see common-interest potential with it.
      As for Nasrallah despite all the brave talk I think he reads the map well and see no pint at all in another round with Israel. He is paid by Iran, the common enemy of Israel and Saudi-Arabia (so it is not just a Sunny vs Shia issue but mainly political/security/inter-national) but he is not going to commit suicide for it.
      So those who wait for him to do their bidding, namely hurt Israel, can continue to wait….

    • The point is that right now all those missiles that Hezbollah accumulated don`t help it given its main present worry with IS. I don`t think it has any attention slack left for Israel now. Some people here so much want to see Israel hit that got blind to the changed circumstances in Lebanon and the region. Israel is Hezbollah yesterday` worry or main target - it is that Assad loses is Syria and Lebanon is overrun by IS, helped there by its many internal antagonists that wait years for this opportunity (some of them Sunnis).

  • Like it or not, Obama is a liberal Zionist
    • Seems more appropriate to ask: Who will save the Arab world from itself? The sheer focus here on what`s wrong with Israel kind of benignly neglects the other side of the equation – but conflicts are inherently between two parties

  • Zionism is tired
    • Well, nobody knows what lies ahead of us but you may certainly consider the past. Whatever will happen you may ask yourself: Did it really worth it? Was the “struggle” beneficial for the Arab world given all the efforts and consequent costs?
      So before you get self-excited about that you might consider that as well as possible future costs too - and perhaps reach another conclusion.

  • Understanding the 'S' in BDS: It's time to demand sanctions on Israel
    • I wonder. Entire Arabia is burning, which can partly be attributed in direct and indirect ways to how it misdealt with the Israel-Palestine conflict, and yet people are still into… sanctions on Israel. A kind of historical-scale blindness is playing-out here. Fortunately, not everybody is afflicted by that.

  • The U.S. is at last facing the neocon captivity
    • Here is a very simplistic explanation for the Iraq war. Since the dawn of History the rule was that you don`t dare attack a world superpower – it must keep its image to function. Bin-Laden did that and the usual response did come. Afghanistan first and then another target in the Arab world from which the attack on the US originated. Iraq was a “target of convenience”: Saddam was already on the hit list for a long time, nuclear proliferation fears, there was the oil potential and yes, as politically incorrect it is, assisting Israel in different ways. Saddam subsidized terror in Israel, the Iraq war removed Israel as the main instability cause in the region and if Iraq turns pro-West and democratic it would be on good terms with Israel.
      For these reasons you can bet that despite what is said here the Iraq issue will fade (rather than kept central) – overtaken by a host of far more actual and urgent ones.

  • Why Ship to Gaza is sailing again
    • @just
      Why don`t you read also the positive news?
      There are continual talks between Israel and Hamas (secretly though) on all kinds of cooperation agreements.
      Israel now also allows import of building material to Gaza and they are used for civilian purposes (not digging tunnels).
      There is a split in Hamas between the political wing and the military wing where the former advocates accommodation with Israel, realistically so given present-day general circumstances.
      Gaza may end ep going the West-Bank way in practical truce with Israel in Gaza and shift to civilian efforts – relinquishing grandiose but imaginary (and costly) struggles and instead doing what the population there really needs. That is, coming to terms, at long last, with realities.
      Now where do the political voyagers from N. Europe, which come “to save” Gaza, fit in here?

    • The point is that what is sensational and attention attracting when new may later become a non-event. You can bet that the dramatic events that followed previous attempts will not repeat themselves. I find it hard to believe that Israel will succumb to “the demands” of these political voyagers and I also believe that the whole episode will pass this time barely noticed. Surely, there will not be a violent overtaking scene, as in the past – a mini superpower must be able to find more creative and intelligent ways to deal a civilian ship. So, as an example, would I be utterly surprised if at some point in the cruise the engine of the ship will “mysteriously” fail? I don`t think so. If that happens there will be of course “dramatic” pleas for help from the voyagers – but would I be surprised if nobody would paid attention? I don`t think so. The world has no patience and attention-slack left for such childishly fabricated “dramas”.

  • The 'New York Times' is now a pro-Israel weapon. Who decided that, I don't know
    • @just
      “Just as Israel continues to delegitimize itself, so….
      That`s ridiculous just. With this logic you could also add the US congress to this list. Delegitimizing in the eyes of whom? Who are the objective arbiters? I hope you are not going to make that “the international community” – a pretty empty notion as it includes China, Russia,… Are they intrinsically legitimate?
      What I am trying to say is that people got so much used to using cliché`s that they don`t notice anymore how vacuous they are.
      Concretely, what is taking place is that the Arab/Islamic world (or, more precisely, a large part of it – Palestinians included) lost their argument merely by how they conduct their affairs – the two are intrinsically intertwined. With that they are also, gradually, losing their Western audience.

  • 'NYT' plays shameless propagandist for Israel's threats to kill Lebanese civilians
    • Relevant comments:
      Right now Hezbollah is bogged down too deeply in Syria where the party it is supporting, Assad, has entered a losing streak. So the last thing it may want to do is to start another serious front.
      Hezbollah in fact violated its promise in the aftermath of the previous war and rearmed itself.
      Better warn and avoid bloodshed. Hezbollah bases its calculations on the asymmetry that they can bomb civilian targets in Israel and Israel will not do that – deterred by the “international community” outcry. But they are extremely vulnerable to that given that they population stronghold is merely a neighborhood of Beirut. Indeed, there is no real need for Israel need to have civilians killed - just hitting the supplies infrastructure can paralyze a neighborhood (and people all will need to flee from there).
      It took the Shia a long time to get ahead socio-economically in Lebanon - they used to be at the bottom of that ladder there. Why on earth should they risk all that for a fight that they cannot win (just cause damage to Israel)? That is still so even if that is what the Iranians might expect in return for the billions they invested there but in.

  • It’s time to boycott Ben & Jerry’s
    • Yeah, boycott them all and don`t forget just about all the US high-tech and military-industrial giants. But perhaps the move here does make some sense – can help with people`s waistlines…

  • Ilan Pappe on the western awakening and what it means for Israel/Palestine
    • @mooser
      I don`t really buy that argument of Pappe (that Israel is behind it all) – it`s too far-fetched. But perhaps Israel was a catalyst in the process partly due by its perceived own survival needs and partly due to what Arab leaders did in their continual struggle with Israel, which indirectly (or as a secondary effect) caused that - and if so that was a big price to pay for Arab countries for their stubborn refusal to accept Israel as another country in the region. The good news: the latter shows signs of changing, mainly in improved ties with some pro-Western Arab countries in the region (out of common interest), which to one degree or another are out of the mayhem.

    • The first reason, Pappe claims, that this conflict should remain central is that it is at the roots of all the upheaval in the region. One can dispute that but even if true there is still a basic logical flaw in the conclusion of Pappe. Clearly what followed has taken life of its own and is already moving independently of that alleged cause and if so why should leaders whose concern is what happens in the present (or will happen in the future) place such an emphasis on the I/P conflict given that its extent and impact are already dwarfed by other troubles in the region?

  • Rudoren covers up Shaked's genocidal statements in 'NYT'
    • Some people fail to understand that over time things become symmetrical and reciprocity prevails. For a long time the field was solely about the Palestinian “victims (and Arabs/Muslims supporters) having a card-blanche for attacking Israel in all kinds of ways: terror, slander, UN resolutions, call for boycott and what not. That cannot last forever. The Jewish world is small but it has its punch-back capabilities - Pam Geller in the US, Jewish ‘new philosophers” in France and of course a much hardened position in Israel itself.

  • AIPAC-backed legislation targeting BDS movement advances in Congress
    • A key element here, even in the considerations in Europe in regard to boycott actions vis-a-vis Israel, is the generally shrinking power in the world of what is collectively known as “The West”. Until a century or so ago European countries ruled the world, later joined by an even bigger power, the US, but now gradually this global dominance is slipping form their hands. The newcomers to power are explicitly or tacitly hostile to “The West”, both as an entity and as a concept, and have many partners in that, in the many countries that harbor resentment to “The West” due to past negative experiences under it (or its influence).
      In such conditions “The West” cannot afford anymore to be too choosy and any entity that operates within the general confines of what The West” stands for must be protected. Hatchets need to be buried (as is mainly the case with Europe) in the name of the common cause - the very survival of “The West” and what it stands for. It is also clear to all that there will be little and short-lasting gratitude to “The West” for the abandonment of Israel - the US know that all too well and understands it much better since it got involved intensely in the Mid-East and came closer to realities there.

  • EU must take stronger action to sanction Israel following high court decision banning boycott
    • The EU is not in a position now to start a new front – it has too many open issues. The Greece saga is heating up and by all indications approaching explosion, with unpredictable impacts not just on the Eurozone but also the EU itself – there is no telling how far this can go. Ukraine is at boiling point too and Putin looks more menacing than ever.
      The rise of Euro-sceptic parties in many European countries will surely weaken the control of the Brussels headquarters on foreign policy issues. These new parties are also anti-immigrant and with that less inclined to support a yet another case of alleged discrimination, or likewise, of Muslims – they know “the story” only too well from their own turf.
      The now negotiated Trans-Atlantic trade pact of the EU with the US, a major economic move, includes a clause, demanded by the latter, which prohibits economic boycott of Israel. Peculiarly the Israeli hi-tech is now so advanced and omnipresent that the EU actually needs some Israeli-produced items – so reluctant to get into a boycott war with Israel.
      And finally, Germany, the EU economic bosses, invested too much in establishing normal relations with Israel to see it going down the drain – accused of participating in another boycott type versus Jews (especially so given how the Greeks are resuscitating now the Nazi era in their economic struggle with Germany).

  • Iran deal is important to 'keep really big bad things from happening,' Bill Clinton says
    • Just about the only way to understand the apparent contradicting statements from many key figures is to see this move with Iran as a huge gamble that necessarily comes with ambiguity. So, inevitably, there are a lot of good cops and bad cops whose positions represent the many aspects of the deal and this game will be with us for a long time.

  • Israeli racism takes center stage at Manhattan JCC
    • @Oldgeezer
      Such organizations were established in the New Land as a reaction to true and real bigotry in the Old World – rampant anti-Semitism for centuries – and they still monitor that. I am not claiming that all historical issues vanished altogether – relics of that still exist for sure - just highlighting the scene and main driving forces of this era of ours. Indeed, the ADL itself has been affected by that too – having become far more political than it used to be.

    • An important distinction is in place here: racism would be relevant only if it was directed against Arabs per se but that`s already not the case at all. There are increasingly strong ties between Israel and Gulf countries, even with the Jordanian elite and with Egyptian military. The dividing line is not ethnic but political so the racism charge is totally misplaced – a throwback to the past (that some just cannot let go out of mental inertia). The world now, in its advanced globalization phase, is an arena where political rivals compete for power and the confines of these new camps is what matters. That`s the only interpretational tool that really clarifies what goes on – not letting it cluttered with worn out slogans. Move on guys.

  • The Second Coming of Holocaust remembrance
    • Trivializing the Holocaust by comparing it to events that, even if painful, are in another league altogether will only act to remove an important warning sign for Humanity. The Holocaust has many aspects that are unique to it - there is no need to repeat them as all are aware of that – which, in turn, had profound consequences on many.
      The continent of Europe, which for a millennium dominated the world, has lost its center-podium status. Germany, which was a center of cultural and an academic power, has lost both. Europe now has to struggle with a vast population of immigrants that don`t accept its own core values (as different from the Jews that use to be there), it has had to accept the general lead of the US (to where the Jews from Europe fled and contributed meaningfully to its rise) and recognize that without it, it has little in the way of defense against an once again ambitious Russia. The Holocaust was a key factor in the establishment of Israel and that had a big impact on the region that it is in and indeed beyond – likely, a big part of that is still to come.
      And let`s not forget: it was the Holocaust that motivated a group of Jewish scientists, pacifists in personal inclination, to get into the development of The Bomb so as to try to stop Nazi Germany in Europe . The Bomb may still get us all.

  • When it comes to untrustworthiness, the U.S. trumps Iran
  • No Palestinians need apply to program on 'Palestinian issue' at Center for American 'Progress'
    • If I read right this conference is about US and Israel relations not US and Palestinians relations…
      Suppose a person decides to sit down and discuss his relationship with his girlfriend with the logic here he should invite also the other women in his (romantic) life since they will be clearly affected…

  • Obama's long & passionate Monday with Saban, Foxman, Hoenlein and other Jewish leaders demonstrates power of Israel lobby
    • I refuse to accept seriously the argument about a mystically great influence of the Jewish/Pro-Israel lobby on US politics. This apparent power of it, or 90% of it, stems from compatibility with goals and standpoints of others. There are deep reasons why support of Israel not only sits well with many Americans but appears to them as an essential interest of the US itself - not necessarily in the direct physicals sense of things but in more fundamental, conceptual and psychological, ways. That is why the Israel lobby and Netanyahu have such disproportionate impact – they simply serve, or are useful for, the advancement of broader interests and goals of others.
      It has been lucky for Israel to hit this concurrence of interests, or it (and US supporters) has been clever and effective enough to have it highlighted well.

  • 'United States of Israel' has compromised U.S. 'sovereignty' on Iran policy -- Gideon Levy in D.C.
    • @DeBakr
      Right, keeping a person like Levy (and others too) in a mainstream Israeli newspaper when what they actually do is, in the eyes of the majority of Israelis, fostering anti-Israeli propaganda, could indeed have pretty rational reasons behind it. One is what you point out, namely a vibrant democracy benefits from the free floating of (even far-flung) views and, indeed, it is only a self-confidant democratic society that can afford this luxury – one that is not afraid that such propaganda will have real demoralizing effects on it. There is then the added benefit, from the very acceptability of allowing such views to be aired in public, of further assuring the society in feeling that it can withstand such apparent self-harming talk - so a kind of immunization effect - as well strengthening its image abroad as free and democratic. That in turn helps with the appreciation (and support) from the US (or Canada and likewise) so the overall trade-off might in the end come out positive.

    • @citizen
      Since I don`t assume that in the super-sophisticated political environment of the US most people, especially the “political class”, are not aware of what you claim, you must be asking yourself how indeed this is happening (and for decades now)? The pint is that there must be something deep that drives it all, conceptual and emotional, which you are psychologically incapable to grasp due to an incompatible ingrained mindset. So the problem lies with you (and others in that psychological condition) not with your fellow Americans.

    • Truly, the only “interesting” thing about Levy is that it is an Israeli citizen that says all that but the content of all what he writes is standard anti-Israel propaganda of some circles outside Israel. So he is actually making a living as a journalist on being “brave” enough to repeat that – a “valiancy” that is carefully nurtured by constantly mentioning threats against him and hate letters. Truly though, the fact that he can do that, and regularly so for very long time now (in a mainstream Israeli newspaper), is just about the best counterproof to his life mission - a completely darkened portrayal of the state of Israel.
      Indeed, his present venture: travelling to the US to lecture it about not being “independent” from Israel, must be seen there as some kind of a farce - an Israeli journalist embarking on a mission to the US “to open its eyes” and “clarify” things to it.

  • Does Schumer have any idea how angry his constituents will be if he torpedoes his president on Iran?
    • Well, if you are true to yourself and to how you interpret your Senator duty you wouldn`t place loyalty to a President from your party over deeper convictions and broader concerns for your country (and a collapse of the world security order is NOT just Israel`s problem even if it is the most threatened). If one cannot face anger from voters when it comes to beliefs than that`s not a virtue (as this article seems to suggest) but a serious flaw

  • Who cares what Jeffrey Goldberg and Netanyahu don't like about the Iran deal?
    • All I was trying to point out that assuming that all the major institutions of your country are occupied by blinded fools or immoral creatures that sell values for own interests is not only very degrading but also quite implausible. I think looking at the mirror would tell those that hold such views where blindness and immorality really lie.

    • So, let me understand. Congress is horrible, the media is inept, the Republican Party beyond pale, the American high-tech industry (with industrial plants all around Israel) doesn`t care, the CIA, NSA and American defense industry are in bed with Israel, and so on and on. But then not all is lost because there is a blog site that saves the day – it tears all masks and reveals it all to everybody.

  • Iran is 'congenital cheating' 'Islamic power bent on world domination' -- Netanyahu tells US media
    • @just: why do label Iran a “rogue country”?
      Well, in today`s world terms a regime that is a combination of a military dictatorship and theocracy is called rogue

    • Mr. Law
      Don`t get carried away by manufactured appearances and media hypes (including what Netanyahu said here). The specter of an omnipotent Iran, which “dominates” Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and what not, is sheer nonsense. Just look at what goes on in these countries – anybody who is ready “to own” that mess (and an indefinite one) is more than welcomed. In a world with the US, China, Russia, the EU, just to name some, Iran can never even approach “dominance”.
      The only real worry here, which is indeed serious, is an Iran with nukes (and for that matter any other rogue country too) and it is this grave danger that troubles Israel (and others) greatly.
      As for Hezbollah it does not matter how many missiles it has because its stronghold is merely a neighborhood of Beirut - that practically means that a real war is a neighborhood fighting a country. It took the Shia forever to rise to prominence in Lebanon (they used to be the lowest socioeconomically) – would they risk all that in a hopeless war (one that they can never win)? And do that while engaged in an indefinite war with a real fierce enemy and danger – the Islamic State?
      Add one to one to one and draw the conclusions

  • Hurt by the Israel lobby, Obama kisses it goodbye
    • No, Mooser, we are already in the tech-era – no boots on the ground are needed here just adequate “advanced capabilities”

    • This is all show – a classic “good cop, bad cop” formation. The bad cop (in this case the pro-Israel lobby and even Netanyahu) always looks worse but is essential. More importantly, the REAL ties between the cops are unaffected – Obama continues to be pro-Israeli as he ever been and so are the multitude of ties between the US and Israel. In a peculiar way some apparent tension between “the cops” is even helpful for their performance, so such interviews are partly tailored - especially so here given how calculated a person Obama is. This is a tricky exercise vis-à-vis Iran, which no doubt has been thoroughly calculated for its prospects and risks, and critically it is not irreversible- the Iranians know very well that violations can mean annulment.

  • DEAL!
    • It is a complex dance here. Netanyahu is playing the (ever ungrateful) “bad cop” role (together with local Republicans) and the soap-opera of the “personal distaste” between him and Obama (the “good cop”) makes the cops-array more effective - the bigger is the apparent distance between the cops the more effective it is. Both the US and Israel want (and need) Iran to fight ISIS, which is now the regional trouble-maker, and doing that is crucial for Iran too so the fundamentals for a “deal” are indeed there. The Saudis are also on both sides of the game - they too dislike ISIS and fear Iran`s influence.
      So , indeed (as the title says), some deal is inevitable, but then this is Iran, the mother of the (carpet) Bazaars and therefore some hard-bargaining is inevitable too – coming with profuse ritualistic “walk away” threats, “critical” deadlines and alike.

  • Paris university reverses decision, allows Israeli apartheid event with Blumenthal
    • I meant over in the sense of tolerating violence in France, or even just public troubles, as an “understandable” reaction to what goes on here. They understand now that this cannot be calibrated. Once you accept violence or public disorder because presumably it only concerns “others”(which included French Jews) while and we are safe and OK, that is they will never do that to us (particularly because here in Europe we also don`t like Israel) - sooner or later it will move on to other “resentment” targets.

    • People underestimate the impact of the Charlie killings on French people and France. It is not considered there yet another terror attack but a watershed event that will gradually change very many things in the general attitude in France. Before that event, Blumental would have never been blocked – simply, nobody would have cared too much plus there was also some “understanding for the justified anger of Arabs for what Israel does to their Palestinian brethren”. That`s over now.

  • It was a bad week for the Israel lobby
    • But things have changed since the initial period of his presidency: then he had 8 years to go and majority in both houses of the Congress and Syria and Libya were still stable. . Now he is a year away from the “lame duck” period and BOTH houses have moved to the hands of an assertive Republican party that is apparently determined “to run the show” (hence the invitation of Netanyahu) and his hands are full with highly problematic and violent other Mid-East arenas. Now add it all up and draw conclusions.

  • Over one quarter of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress consisted of applause and standing ovations
    • It was all gimmicks and symbolism. Netanyahu using it for the coming election and Obama using that too for the dame purpose only in the opposite direction - trying to convince Israel not to vote for him (as well as a retribution for Netanyahu`s support for Romney 6 years ago) and the Republicans using it to assert more influence on the conduct for foreign affairs now that they have majority in the whole Congress. The US and Israel are inextricably tied in fighting common grave threats but a little political “fun”, as the continual skirmishes between parties in the US, is always part of “the show”.

  • Palestine Advocacy Project goes national
    • I am surprised Annie that you don`t read the mood-map even in your own country. The comprehensive violence in Arabia or those involving Islamists all around the world has all but annulled the interest in this “old” story called Palestinians. They had been at the center podium for quite a few decades but that`s gone – even in Arabia (Egypt just listed Hamas as a terrorist group). I am sure Americans yawn when they see these ads – resurrected from the dead. These people might just as well start a Red Indians Advocacy Project.

  • Warren's out, as list of skippers surges, and White House offers Selma for Iran
    • It is possible that the Netanyahu “drama” masks a much more fundamental phase in US politics and conduct. It has been a received wisdom that foreign policy, unlike internal one, is by and large at the discretion of the president. In truth that has no base in the constitution and was rather a practice -and that is what is now to be challenged by the Republicans. They control both houses and will in the next 2 years try to navigate foreign policy too. Netanyahu was used here as a trial balloon and it also suited his own (perceived) election needs. Brushing him aside is easy because he is a foreigner but that is not so when it comes to the Republicans in the Congress. So let`s see if the latter will try on their own to block, restructure, and control the process with Iran. They would need to convince few Democrat senators, to reach the 60 mark, and that might be the real battles ahead. The Netanyahu affair will be soon forgotten because it is of no real essence in this broader process despite all the big (but artificial) noise around it – especially so if he loses the primeministership in the coming election.

  • 700 UK artists pledging not to go to Israel include Soueif, Ali, Waters, Eno, Leigh, Churchill
    • @Annie 12.36
      Israel does not invest in cultural events to improve its image but… for the sake of culture itself. I am surprised that this simple explanation did not cross your mind and perhaps that is because you have become so “politicized” – seeing everything through that prism.
      As for countering anti-Israel “intellectuals” in Europe I actually agree that it is waste of money. In my view those people will soon be busy dealing with similar issues (with Muslim minorities) in their own country - all the signs for that are there – and let see to where that will lead them.

    • I am afraid the delusional person here is not me. For almost 70 years now there is this prediction of destroying Israel by this country or another. This contact of Iran with china is very, very loose and the P5 is itself a loose association and Iran is now inclined to give up on n those nukes, not least because of its great interest to fight with the US the Caliphate guys, and then, well, at this moment the country that got the nukes is actually Israel.
      But the main aspect of the delusion here lies even more so in the distance between Iran and Israel. Firing even a missile (even just conventional) from Iran to Israel can hit, due to just half a degree deviation, Hezbollah or Gaza (the distances here are very, very small). When they had Syria it was a different matter, but where is Syria now? And that perhaps tells you why Israel decided to bomb that Hezbollah + Iranian group, which tried to set a missile base in Syria… Capito?

    • So let me understand Annie, you think that Israel is behind all that chaos in the region? (and I am too responsible for that?) Are we here are so powerful here that we can push countries in the region into turmoil? And/or can make the US act a proxy for for us in that?
      If so then surely a threat form a group of, mostly unknown, UK artists not to visit Israel must be the last thing that such an omnipotent country should worry about

    • Also let me ask: how many of those signed had anytime a contact with Israel? Reminds me of those corporations, which began to present their products as Green, even though that aspect has nothing to do with the nature of those products.
      I have a feeling that all these Israel- boycotting exercises are getting too ridiculous to be taken seriously. Remember the big fuss about a Soda drink company and a beautiful model? And didn`t I read on this site just days ago that the Trans-Atlantic trade agreement may preclude, commerce-wise, any of that?
      And also what about the succession of major Asian countries that are in close contact with Israel in increasing trade significantly? The leader of Japan just left Israel and India is already a close friend. China shows great interest too.

    • Gone are the times when an act like this has made any impression on Israel or, indeed, anywhere else. It is probably the opposite now – many would ask themselves how obsessed with Israel these people are if in the middle of an incredible, historical scale, chaos in the Mid-East, where what happens in one day dwarfs the entire Israel-Palestine saga, they cannot let their “baby” go. And what about their “home front”- where Europe is approaching battle-field conditions given what goes on now in France, Belgium and other countries in regard to similar issues? Pathetic, indeed.
      Besides, their threat is empty – who on earth will miss these people here.

  • My fellow Muslim-Americans, in the wake of Chapel Hill we can’t stop speaking out - even if our voices shake
    • It is certainly no fun to be at the receiving end of terror. The thousands trapped in those planes aimed at the twin tower and those inside them can attest to that.

  • Speech to AIPAC could give Netanyahu his out
    • #seafoid
      Man, you became an Israel addict. And you are not alone. I sometime think it is the sworn enemies of Israel and their obsessed focus on it that makes what is essentially a very, very small country look so big. After all if they are ready to spend so much energy on it, their whole life literally, there must be something exceptional in it - otherwise how could such a miniature country, stuck in the middle of the Middle-East, be so important? So should I be angry with this chorus or thank them? I don`t know - maybe angry because of the underlying bad intentions.

  • 'The New York Times' throws another sop to lovers of Israel
    • @Elliot
      There is no contradiction in that. Today`s “progressive” person, woman or man, is often the most aggressive creature around - every second word of theirs is some kind of a wild accusation (fascists, racists and worse), accompanied by some dire threats (as boycotts)…

    • @seafoid
      Don`t forget that the “Israel project” is also about “the normalization” of the Jewish people - part of that is being able to do to your sworn enemies what beforehand only the Goyim seemed to know….

    • A good looking woman, lawyer, politically skilled organizer, aggressive, eccentric – the media loves this kind of figures, makes a living out of them.

  • Tell your congressperson: Don't attend Netanyahu's speech
    • Excuse me guys. Does anybody really believe that Netanyahu has even a shred of the influence extent it takes to make decisions for the US - as serious as going to war. Adding his view on Iran is really only just that, namely another view heard. And please don`t turn things upside down – Netanyahu is merely a pawn in the internal politics of today`s superpower`s main parties. He may see in that a self-interest advantage in view of the coming election in Israel (and be therefore grateful for the event) but do I believe that those immensely knowledgeable and powerful senators and congressmen will not see what he says as just another view-input? Hearing what he has to say in accepting an invitation to do so from a highly respectable US politician?

  • Like the Wind, We Will Be Free: How being detained at Ben Gurion airport during a family trip to Palestine reaffirmed my identity
    • I hate to be the guy with the cold water but I came to believe long time ago that the limitless Palestinian capacity for rhetoric-based self-empowerment is not a virtue but perhaps the greatest problem of all – without a minimal sense of realism you only make your situation worse. It would have been far better, since 1948, to try to come to terms with the Jews in Israel rather than keep fighting them with fantasies in the head.

  • Netanyahu speech could turn Israel lobby into a political football
    • Annie, alright, let`s wait and see how it develops in practice and then we shall be wiser – it is just a matter of weeks.
      As for your comment on “posting on a US website” – I think the times for a national characterization of a website has passed. We are one world now - all the more so when it comes to the US, which is a (or the) “world center”. I remember somebody clever once defined New-York as the capital of the 20th century (it was decades back).

    • Take it easy. What really takes place here is almost like the usual internal political fights in the US. That`s how close the US and Israel has become and Netanyahu, in particular, is viewed as a “local” politician. There is little question that Obama views all that as part of the usual political theatre in the US, which is intensive and never stops, and Netanyahu just sues the opportunity for some much needed self-aggrandizing, which is especially useful given the coming elections here.

  • Pro-Israel parliamentary group in Europe says Israelis suffered 'worst' of Gaza conflict
    • @Cliff
      You can get angry with a person, me here, but that`s only proxy for the real cause of your problems: Mr. Reality. With that guy it`s harder to mess – although you and likeminded people just never give up doing that. It is already 70 years that people try to turn facts upside down in regard to Israel but to no avail. Mr. Reality keeps proving them wrong. That must be frustrating but still don`t go too far - among other assets Mr. Reality also owns hell.

    • On second thought it is perhaps better to view those that propagate this nonsense as conspiracy-theory fans (and propagandists)

    • @Annie
      I hope you don`t really believe that nonsensical argument - advanced by some crazy propagandists because it appears that temporarily there is something helpful for Israel in what the Jihadists do. But that`s all what into it and in reality the Jihadists are a huge headache for everybody, Israel included. Get serious. As for the clash with Hezbollah it is a different matter – just got conflated. It is simply impossible to be precise in the convoluted and chaotic conditions in Syria.

    • Israel may have claimed that long time ago but people in Europe didn`t want to listen. But in this era whatever has a global dimension – and few would deny that the issues with Islam today qualify for that characterization – can have the main focus (and headlines) be confined to just one of its global flashpoints only for so long. While it`s true that each flashpoint may have a local narrative and own history, it is also true that in a global era EVERYTHING within the same category get sooner or later linked. Globalization is not a cliché – it`s a reality and a process with intrinsic mechanisms (just watch for instance how strongly what goes on in faraway Syria or Iraq affects Europe). these type of realities must have their effect on Israel`s case too, the rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding, simply because simply that`s how things work.

    • What we see here is inevitable and piling smears won`t change that. What goes on in Europe is now converging with what has been going with Israel for some time now. An instinctive anti-Israel European attitude cannot be reconciled anymore with Europe`s own worries and separating the European scene form the Israeli one (“Palestine is distinct”), a past favorite in Europe, is becoming too implausible to be sustained by serious people there. The left-of-center/liberal/human-rights-advocates, or whatever they like to call (or see) themselves will continue with the old tunes but with decreased following and influence.
      It is widely recognized now that Israel was just unlucky enough to be the first to encounter a global issue of our times, simply because of its physically proximity, and what happened there was a harbinger for things to come worldwide - a broader malaise that cannot be hidden anymore. The US understood that long time ago, followed later by Canada and Australia, and now it`s the turn of the last leg of the West - Europe.

  • French terror attacks contribute to Israeli's isolation
    • I don`t accept the thesis here. In fact there was a great desire in Europe to distance itself from Israel problems and even when Jews were assaulted there it was addressed as an internal Jewish/Israeli–Palestinian/Arab/Muslim conflict that they are not a part of. Sometime they even went further than that in “understanding the anger” among Arabs there in view of the “plight” of their Palestinian brethren (albeit the disturbing side of that in having directing that “anger” against their Jewish compatriots). It is that separation which is probably now over and paradoxically the parallel acts in this terror assault of in a French magazine and a Jewish store have accentuated the linkage – that is, Israel and Europe are really in the same boat here.

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