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  • Rescuing atheism from Harris and Hitchens
    • Obviously, "Christianity has no influence on our incredibly violent and interventionist foreign policy", because it prescribes non-violence. Judaism is a different matter. However, I don't think it's the influence of Judaism which leads Western countries to follow Israeli violence in the Middle East. The pro-Israel attitude isn't religious - some religious Jews argue that Zionism is incompatible with Judaism.

      Atheists don't 'overlook' the stupidity of any religion, but they do sometimes think one is worse than others. At one time, they generally thought that Catholicism was the worst. Then they discovered Islam.

    • As I predicted, 'Cigargod' has difficulty with logic. "Attempted" is about intentions. That's what it means. Results are a different issue.

    • Zaid - I am not obliged to defend any of the things Sam Harris has said in the past. I just recommended “Islam and the Future of Tolerance”.

      I meant "although I recommend this book, I don't agree with much of what Harris has said in the past". I'm against all Western intervention in the Middle East, including support for, or even recognition of, Israel.

      Harris may have said all kinds of outrageous things in the past, some of which which confirm al Qaeda's view, but this book does not.

      The phrase "do not need to be lectured by" is a modern leftist tactic, switching attention from the content of the argument to the persons involved, in particular, how oppressed they are. It doesn't matter who's doing the "lecturing", or to whom it's directed: is it true?

      The fact that the Americans invaded Iraq DOES NOT IN ANY WAY contradict the statement that they "did, at considerable cost to themselves, ATTEMPT to improve life for Iraqis". That statement is about their INTENTIONS. And the costs are obvious - billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and a less stable Iraq.

      This response also applies to "Cigargod", but I doubt if she/he can understand it.

    • 'zaid' - first, I think you misunderstood my phrase "ex-Muslim extremist". Nawaz is not an ex-Muslim who is an extremist, he is a Muslim who used to be an extremist!

      Second, neither Nawaz nor Harris are telling Muslims to reform their religion. They are politely suggesting it might be a good idea.

      Third, I don't recommend this book because I agree with every single thing Harris has ever written.

      Finally, civilized human beings did, at considerable cost to themselves, attempt to improve life for Iraqis. Of course, they failed, because, though civilized, they are idiots.

    • This article amalgamates Harris and Hitchens. Harris opposed the Iraq war. Hitchens supported it. As for Islam, I've just finished reading Harris and Nawaz's "Islam and the Future of Tolerance", a discussion between an atheist and an ex-Muslim extremist. It is discussions like this which will lead to peace, not the denunciations of p.c. apologists like the author of this article and the author of the book it reviews.

  • Pro-Israel Jews have 'inexcusable prejudice' against Obama -- Sandy Berger
  • Roundtable on the Palestinian solidarity movement and Alison Weir
    • "One cannot support the Palestinians while opposing the struggle of black Americans"

      Even on the face of it, this statement is clearly false. One could support the struggle of the Palestinians without giving a tinker's cuss about black Americans. But the statement means more than it says. It is part of the attempt, led by Jewish Voice for Peace, to ensure the Palestinian solidarity movement stays within the confines of the politically-correct left, which they know how to keep under control, and completely ineffective.

    • "Why I think JVP and the US Campaign are making a mistake regarding Alison Weir"

      Attacking Weir is not a mistake! She's for the Palestinians. They're not.

  • Obama ushers in the crisis of the Israel lobby
    • 'Obama ushers in the crisis of the Israel lobby'

      No he doesn't. He continues to play the role of fake opposition to it. By hysterically attacking the Iran deal, Israel and the Republicans give the impression that it's some kind of concession. In fact, it's the USA serving Israeli interests by making sure that only Israel has the ability to wipe out all its neighbors. Nowhere else in the world does the US take such an unbalanced position. It didn't say it was 'unthinkable' that Pakistan should get nukes in response to India acquiring them. But both US parties are completely subservient to Israeli interests.

  • Oren's criticism of US Jews earns his book five thumbs down: 'slinky,' 'self-aggrandizing,' 'twists reality'
    • That Oren is "out of touch with reality" doesn't matter.

      "within the bubble of the Beltway" is more important than "the US public" and "the rest of the world", because the Beltway controls the USA.

      "entered the realm of pandering to the right wing constituents of the Likud Coalition" - the only pandering going on is US pandering to Israel and its supporters.

    • “The presence of so many Jews in print and onscreen rarely translates into support for Israel” says Oren. This statement is obviously false, but it is useful to Zionism. It makes it look as if the critical support for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, which is fairly common among American Jews, and universal among US politicians, isn't support for ethnic cleansing at all. It makes liberal Zionists and crypto-Zionists like like opponents of Zionism.

  • Leading NY writer likens Edward Said to monster in a horror movie
    • "the risk that Jewish political life faces today: the alliance with Israel has made establishment organizations extremely conservative"

      That's because, over the last fifty years or so, Jewish interests have logically led to supporting more conservative politicians. That's why a significant collection of Jewish intellectuals switched from Trotskyism to neo-conservatism. It's not a "risk to Jewish political life" at all. It's just a different strategy for a different time.

    • "How many of us white privileged folks have been called upon to reflect on our privilege in the last 10 and 20 years in part because of Said’s intervention"

      Exactly. Said's "Orientalism" is firmly within the traditions of American left-wing academia. It is useless for Palestine solidarity, because it amalgamates Israel with US imperialism, and the supremacy of Israel with the dying racial supremacy of the Western countries. Palestine solidarity in the West has been dominated by this leftist narrative for decades, and has been a failure. It falsely tells the majority of Americans they have an interest in supporting Israel.

  • Mourning hate crimes from South Carolina to the Sea of Galilee
    • A hate crime in South Carolina is the last gasp of a dying racial supremacy, excoriated throughout the Western world. A hate crime in Galilee is the expression of a living, expanding, supremely successful racial supremacy, supported to the hilt by all Western countries.

  • Front-page attack in New York Times says BDS movement is driven by minorities' 'hostility toward Jews'
    • "the Mail is a hate-filled rag"

      Yeah, but at least it has a sense of humour. So does the Graun, but not the NYT.

    • "how anti-racist can you be if you support racism in Israel?"

      Quite a lot. You can be against white gentile racism in the USA, and in favor of Jewish racism in Israel. It's quite a common position.

    • "A great many Jewish students too are deeply troubled by the right wing government and behavior of Israel" - Mark Thomason

      Well, they're mistaken. The problem isn't the right wing government and Israel's behavior. Israel doesn't do ethnic cleansing, Israel IS ethnic cleansing. These Jewish students are just defending the fallback position, whereby Israel would behave differently, but still be the Jewish state.

  • Baltimore is confronting police brutality, but the systemic racism of its Israeli sister city remains unchallenged
    • "Baltimore is confronting police brutality, but the systemic racism of its Israeli sister city remains unchallenged"

      What a confused title. "Brutality" isn't the same as "racism". The US left mostly complains about the fact that the police brutality is racist, rather than that it's brutality. And they might even succeed in making the brutality more even-handed. Israel is a completely different story. Their racism is indeed "systemic" - it's the basis of the country's existence, and cannot be reformed.

  • MSM's platform for Pamela Geller is equivalent to normalizing David Duke and Nazis
  • 'Baltimore Is Here': Ethiopian Israelis protest police brutality in Jerusalem
    • Thanks for your replies. I'm simply talking about logic. Sentimental gushing about "integrity" doesn't move me. If the primary problem in Palestine is Jewish racial supremacy over the ethnically-cleansed inhabitants of that land, then intra-Jewish conflict is not a problem at all. In fact, it's a good thing. Complaining about "racism" among Israeli Jews like "racism" in America makes it sound like Israel is like any other Western society, one which can be gradually reformed out of its "racism".

    • Surely division among Jewish Israelis is a good thing. It undermines the solidarity which enables the oppression of the Palestinians. I've always been puzzled why anyone who claims to be opposed to Zionism complains about the oppression of one group of Israeli Jews by another.

  • Obama's long & passionate Monday with Saban, Foxman, Hoenlein and other Jewish leaders demonstrates power of Israel lobby
    • It doesn't matter whether Hoenlein’s characterization of Iranians is 'racist'. What matters is if it is true. Are Iranians better manipulators than Jews? However you answer that question is equally 'racist'. But one answer is true, and the other one false.

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  • From AIPAC to JVP: The political evolution of Seth Morrison
    • "hold Israel accountable"

      Hold ethnic cleansing accountable for ethnic cleansing?

    • The guy thinks that a more liberal approach defends the interest he still identifies with. It still defends the legitimacy of ethnic cleansing. It's just a difference about tactics.

  • 'United States of Israel' has compromised U.S. 'sovereignty' on Iran policy -- Gideon Levy in D.C.
    • "Israel doesn’t even have oil, and it has no strategic value in comparison to say, Iran or Egypt". Obviously, the USA doesn't grovel to Israel out of rational self-interest, the way she supports Saudi Arabia. It's something to do with the ability of the Jewish community to manipulate weaknesses in Western populations. Not all Jews, obviously, but no other ethno/religious group comes close to the major organizations of the Jewish community in persuading the world's leading power to act against its interests.

  • Who cares what Jeffrey Goldberg and Netanyahu don't like about the Iran deal?
    • "Who cares what Jeffrey Goldberg and Netanyahu don’t like about the Iran deal?" Their pseudo-opponents, the Democrats and the liberal Zionists. The more the right attack them, the more it looks like they've pushed Israel back. In fact, Israel wins either way, remaining the only nuclear power in the Middle East. The opposition between the two factions is a complete illusion.

  • When occupation becomes apartheid
  • Calling out Pamela Geller's hate speech in Philadelphia
    • "Incitement" is a crime in UK, but not in US, law. Hatred is allowed. You either defend freedom, or you don't

    • Given the murderous attack on Pam Geller and her organization by Muslim extremists in Texas yesterday, I wonder if this would lead to a different tone in this article if it were written today. Defending freedom means defending the right to produce what the author calls "hate speech".

  • How Obama won on Iran
    • Obama might have won, but the Iran deal is a victory for Israel, leaving her the only nuclear armed power in the Middle East. The fight between Democrats and Republicans is a game. When the Democrats succeed, it makes it look like a setback for Israel.

  • Video: Max Blumenthal on the ways Zionism exploits anti-Semitism
    • "there is no mega million African-American industry here in america demonizing opposers of affirmative action. no well oiled media market pushing that ptv as bigotry. simply NO comparison to the islamophobic hate machine uplifting and supporting demonization of muslims. false equivalence to the max"

      I disagree. The multi-million dollar industry demonizing opposers of affirmative action, and conservative views in general, consists of the government, large sections of academia, and much of the media, including NBC, CNN and the New York Times. On September 17, 2001, president Bush said Islam is "a religion of peace". President Obama has continued this nonsense. The White House didn't even mention the religion of the Muslim terrorists who just murdered 147 people in Kenya.

      BTW I'm no conservative. But let's get our facts straight...

    • "i thought everyone (informed) already knew she was a fraud and a liar" - Annie

      Is everything Ali says a lie? About the oppression of women and girls in Islamic fundamentalist societies? About FGM? About the fact that she lives under armed guard because of the real risk of being murdered because she expresses her opinions about Islam?

    • "Most Jews support a Jewish state. That much is true." Thanks, "hophmi", for an honest calculation of the correlation between Jews and Israel. Max Blumenthal et al try to obscure this correlation by claiming that anyone who points it out is an anti-semite, who thinks that ALL Jews support Israel, which is obviously false. The fact that most Jews in the Western world support ethnic cleansing, and somehow, almost all politicians in the Western world follow, is a real problem, and one Blumenthal & co. seek to stop us thinking about.

    • Giles: "there are still vestiges of his Zionist upbringing cluttering his thinking". Isn't that a bit of an understatement?

  • Hate in the aftermath of Chapel Hill
  • Wide array of groups congratulate UC Santa Cruz for hosting Angela Davis on 'Ferguson to Palestine'
    • Not quite. The only "violence" she ever appeared to be involved in had something to do with opposing police persecution of black activists like George Jackson. She did, however, support the Soviet Union.

      Linking Palestine to Ferguson is a tactical error. Think about the baseball fans who held up signs supporting the cop who killed Michael Brown. They have every interest in opposing US support for Israel. Angela Davis is not the person to convince them.

    • It often happens that Zionists attack moderate and ineffective critics of Israel using excessive language. The effect is to make them look like better critics than they are.

      Davis's equation of Ferguson and Palestine is ridiculous. As long as the US Palestine solidarity movement is dominated by the discredited politics of Stalinist cliché-mongers, it will fail.

  • Settlers' video accuses B'Tselem, Breaking the Silence, Peace Now and New Israel Fund of collaborating with Nazi anti-Semites
    • "The leftwing Jew is not a Jew." Pam Geller doesn't get it. She should talk to people like Norman Podhoretz about the phenomenon whereby left-wing Jews became neo-conservatives, because they thought it was in Jewish interests. Before 1967 or thereabouts, the Jewish community in the USA and Western Europe was overwhelmingly left-wing.

  • Netanyahu's disaster: speech cost 'omnipotent' lobby a veto proof majority for Iran sanctions
  • Finkelstein on Joan Peters's legacy (and Dershowitz's legal troubles)
    • Brilliant, Annie. You should be a lawyer - and I mean that as a compliment, because legal reasoning is one of the few examples of the use of logic in the way this country is run.

    • Finkelstein makes one big mistake. "It is breath-taking to read the Harvard statement in the context of a sexual slavery case pitting vulnerable minors against billionaires, celebrities and royalty". He's allowing his understandable dislike of Dershowitz to get the better of him. There is no connection between Dershowitz's support for torture and ethnic cleansing, and the allegations against him of sex with a minor. Dershowitz uses p.c. language to defend Israel. Finkelstein is using p.c. language ('vulnerable', 'billionaires') to attack Dershowitz in an unrelated context. It doesn't matter how vulnerable his accuser is. It doesn't matter how rich he is. The allegations are either true, or false. The default presumption is they are false.

  • John Mearsheimer: What Mondoweiss Means To Me
    • A thoughtful and encouraging tribute from Mearsheimer, but "This well-orchestrated silencing effort was not only antithetical to liberal values; it also did great harm to US foreign policy and did Israel no favors either."

      Surely the power of the Lobby in the USA did Israel at least one favor - it allowed it to exist.

  • #JusticeForMikeBrown: NFL star Reggie Bush connects Ferguson to Palestine
    • Reply to Annie - you say that Israel is a colony of "a political power" within various "territories". OK - in that case, Israel is a colony of Jewish supremacy within Western countries.

      "now, i look forward to you asserting there is no outside political power propping up their colony called israel"

      I don't say if this political power is 'outside'. As long as you call it what it is - Jewish ethnic power - and don't hide this by confusing it with Western "imperialism, racism, and colonialism", like the left-wing-dominated Palestine solidarity movement currently does, I have no problem calling it a 'colony'.

    • To Annie: that's a well-argued reply, but sorry, Israel is not colonialism. Wikipedia uses the vague term 'territory', and Chomsky and co. have replaced the concept "bourgeoisie" with the vaguer and more politically acceptable term "elites":

      "the territory of the colonizers came from was primarily europe and russia but currently it’s primarily a US project and colony of US elites"

      Then Israel is not a colony of a "territory", let alone a nation.

      "zionist/elites of the “nation” of jewish people in the diaspora"

      Are Jewish people being oppressed by their 'elites' too?

      "support our colonialist project and to a lessor extent pay fealty to “a political power” (represented by lobby)"

      No, it's the other way round. Israel is not a colonialist project of the vague "elites". It's the imposition of racial supremacy by some Jews (some rich, some poor), supported by many Jews. Many gentiles also support them. They are making a mistake - most Americans, rich and poor, have no interest in the Jewish state. The 'lobby' is not 'to a lessor extent'!

      Do look up my "Faithful Circle" on Dissident Voice. And Jeff Blankfort, and Michael Neumann. And of course, Gilad Atzmon.

    • In Britain, someone like Michael Brown would be dealt with by unarmed police. If it is true that he had violently robbed a store, and was a big guy, but was unarmed, they'd sent four coppers after him, without guns. No-one would get killed.

      Whatever I say about 'racism' ( that there is NO evidence that Brown was a victim of it, and America is one of the least racist societies in history), I definitely think its justice system is barbaric.

    • oldgeezer - 'Something is either racism free or it’s racist.' No, that's unrealistic. South Africa today isn't racism free, but it's a helluva lot less racist than it was under apartheid. Same with all the other Western countries, bar one.

    • Annie - 'clearly we have different views of zionist if you do not believe it is a colonialist movement'. 'Colonialism' refers to nations occupying areas of the world by force, such as the British Empire. Which nation is Israel a colony of?

    • "the worst and longest running occupation in existence today, and at the same time be part of a broader imperialist-colonialist struggle". Nope. The current problem in Palestine started when it was abandoned by imperialism and colonialism - British imperialism and colonalism - and occupied by Jews. However, the term 'the occupation' is always used to mean just the West Bank and the Gaza Strip - as if occupying Ramallah is less legitimate than occupying Haifa, which is in Israel 'proper'.

      'dominated by the anti white gentile left? what are you talking about?': see my numerous online articles about the myth of contemporary white racism. For example, my response to 'Dissident Voice', 'Yes, the West is Comparatively Racism Free'.

    • The Guardian agrees with Annie in describing the events in Missouri as a symptom of 'racism': 'These days, we have “racism without racists”, as the sociologist Eduardo Bonilla-Silva puts it':

      It fails to mention that Bonilla-Silva is one of the eighty-eight professors at Duke University who signed a statement that three white students were guilty of rape, solely on the basis that they were accused by a black woman. Though her allegation was clearly false, the university, the local police, the DA, and most of the national media, repeated her lies. The case of the Duke three is far more clearly a case of racial discrimination than the shooting of Michael Brown. Their ethnicity (plus their gender and supposed economic advantages) worked against them, in the hysterical liberal atmosphere of modern America.

    • “exchange information between Palestinians and US social movements fighting related issues of racism, colonialism, and attacks on education.”?

      This kind of thing is hopelessly ineffective for the Palestinian cause. In the first place, it's simply not true that Palestinians and Americans face anything like the same issues. In the second place, the only way Palestinians can win is by convincing ordinary Western people that the vast majority of them have no interest in supporting the Jewish state at all. This is not achieved by resurrecting Mao Zedong and haranguing Joe Sixpack for having 'white privilege', and I suspect some of the loud leftists who dominate Palestine solidarity know this.

    • "The Palestinian struggle is not a unique one and is part of the broader imperialist-colonialist struggle that many people worldwide are victims of."

      Thanks for this. One couldn't hope for a more succint explanation of why the Palestinian struggle has been so unsuccessful. It's because it's dominated by the anti-imperialist, anti-white-gentile left. The Palestinian struggle IS a unique one. It's the only struggle against overt, legalized, official racial oppression by a Western country today. Attempting to deny this by amalgamating it with much less serious and more complex issues like minority poverty and police violence in the USA is guaranteed to continue this failure.

      I hope Reggie Bush gets over his injuries and gets back to doing what he's good at.

    • Here's the reason the grand jury refused to charge Darren Wilson - the witness statements against him wouldn't stand up in court:

    • This is a reply to "Marnie" above. Small correction - Leo Frank wasn't murdered by the Klan, and he wasn't murdered for being Jewish. He had been convicted of raping a minor, and his death sentence had been commuted. In The Georgia public was pro-death, so it abducted him from prison and hanged him from a tree. The Anti-Defamation League has been trying to paint this as the one anti-semitic lynching in American history ever since.

    • There is no evidence that the tragic death of Michael Brown had anything to do with race. When a white person, even a cop, shoots a black person, it does not prove they are racist. To do that, you would have to show they treat white people differently in the same circumstances.

      Whereas the Palestine question has everything to do with ethnicity. There is no doubt that the Jewish state is entirely a project of racial supremacy. It is tasteless to compare Palestine with even the worst ghetto in America.

      Isn't it boring when black celebrities comment on events, certain that racism must have been involved, when they have no evidence? And isn't it predictable how liberals follow them?

  • The Minds of Others: An interview with Max Blumenthal
    • "Zionism is proscribed as part of the hegemonic narrative that’s imposed on everyone and used to advance the culture of whiteness". Presumably, that's a misprint for "prescribed"!

      Blumenthal's robotic repetition of leftist cliches about "hegemony" and "whiteness" could be amusing. But they serve a useful purpose in amalgamating the powerful force of Jewish supremacy with the left's phantom opponent, whiteness, making it hader to understand Zionism for what it really is.

    • So Max Blumenthal doesn't like Germans. Perhaps they should repay the compliment, but you know what they'd be accused of.

      "Yes, this is a sick society that hasn’t addressed the core political and psychological and social trends that lead to the Holocaust." Not true - whereas the countries which won WW II haven't "addressed" the crimes they committed doing so, Germans are always agonizing about them. Minimizing these crimes attracts a prison sentence. Whereas in the USA, the justification for the bombing of Hiroshima is debatable. There are even Germans who demonstrate every February in Dresden, saying the Allied bombing of that city was justified.

      Yet Blumenthal also admits "because of the Holocaust, Germany gives Israel discounted Corvette boats to attack fishermen in the Gaza Strip". If Germany gave up worrying about the Holocaust, it would be less inclined to support Israel. But this is not what Blumenthal means by "addressing "the core political and psychological and social trends".

      He even says that guilt about the Holocaust is part of the thing that caused it. It's damned if you do, and damned it you don't. As with a number of left-wing Jewish authors, beneath his pseudo-academic psychobabble is dislike of gentiles.

  • A handful of Wellesley students are trying to shut down discussion of Israel/Palestine
    • "We agree with Ms. Cohen’s statement that at times, “intense anti-Israel sentiment bleeds into anti-Semitism.”... full understanding of these concerns... resist all forms of oppression – not just anti-Palestinian animus... but anti-Semitism as well."

      As long as Palestine solidarity grovels and appeases its oppressors, it will lose.

  • Muslims' beliefs are 'untrue' and 'ridiculous,' 'Salon' author says, offering support for Maher's intolerance
    • "So I guess we can now criticize Judaism with no comparisons or context?" Sure. Why not? Why do you have to compare misogynistic, genocidal creeds with others? What do you mean by 'context'? 'Oh, they couldn't help it, it was the times they lived in' - like Karen Armstrong?

    • I have to withdraw my statement that Karen Armstrong converted to Islam. It was the result of reading her apologia: 'Muhammad: A Prophet For Our Time'. However, the response 'you obviously try to smear/lie about anyone who actually has anything positive and informed to say about Islam' is a bit over the top. I genuinely believe what I say about Islam and other religions.

    • Bill Maher was right not to read a book by Karen Armstrong. I wasted my time reading one of her books once. She's a once-Catholic nun who converted to Islam. I remember her apologies for stoning people to death - it was that people had different standards in those days. She should be regarded with Dawkins/Harris/Denett/Hitchens contempt.

    • "the religious beliefs in question are untrue and even ridiculous".
      This criticism of Islam doesn't imply that the virgin birth, the parting of the Red Sea, the burning bush, etc. are any more true or less ridiculous. You can criticize the barbarity and moronity of Islam without being obliged to criticize other religions at the same time.

  • 'Take your Ebola ass and get out': L.A. confrontation highlights relationship between Zionism and anti-black racism
    • "A much larger culture of bigotry and hate in Israel and among some pro-Israel supporters internationally". Some pro-Israel supporters? It's good to hear there are supporters of ethnic cleansing who don't advocate bigotry and hate.

      This piece falls into the category of articles which try to make Israel look like a normal Western country, one which can be reformed to make it less 'bigoted'. South Africa, yes. Israel, no.

  • Sh*tstirring Jeffrey Goldberg dumps diplomatic sh*tstorm with 'chickensh*t' quote
    • Mooser - that's just an 'official' saying it's a 'good' thing Netanyahu is scared to launch wars. In any case, when the USA criticizes Israel for launching a war, it's because it thinks a war is against Zionist interests. Since this story blew up, the US secretary of defense - supposedly one of the most powerful men in the world - has had to apologize for his officials' honesty. Almost all American politicians suck. What they suck, I can't really say on a family-friendly site like this.

    • It's worth noting that by calling Netanyahu 'chickenshit', the State Department is criticizing Israel for not being aggressive enough toward Iran. In other words, it's a dispute within Zionism about how to defend Israeli supremacy.

  • Under pretext of restoring calm, Netanyahu government is escalating Israel’s war on Palestinians in Jerusalem
  • Bus ads hitting US aid for Israeli 'war crimes' roll in Portland (after ban in Seattle)
  • Allegations of anti-Semitism used to cover up anti-Palestinian hate crime in Brooklyn
    • This story is a clear illustration of the reasons for the failure of the Palestine solidarity movement. Its members really seem to think they can use left-wing morality to liberate the Palestinians. "The New York City Palestine Solidarity network “strongly condemn[ed] anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and all forms of racism,” noting that “phony accusations of anti-Semitism undermine and take lightly the seriousness and danger of true anti-Semitism.”". Why on earth would a Palestine solidarity network care about "anti-Semitism"?

  • AIPAC rabbi calls for 'militant nonviolent resistance' to racial injustice in St. Louis
    • "I don’t think you can be for justice in Ferguson as a Jew and not confront the intolerance in our community epitomized by AIPAC."

      I'm sorry, but that's exactly what you can be "as a Jew". A strong sense of ethnic identity logically leads to support for minorities when you are in a minority, and racism when you're a majority.

  • Israel's Dead Soul: Steven Salaita's critical scholarship explains his dismissal from the University of Illinois
    • Great article. Salaita's demonstration that the Anti-Defamation League, according to its own criteria, is a hate group, is surely one of the reasons the cowardly, groveling aparatchiks at the University of Illinois fired him.

  • Salaita says UI appeased 'a few wealthy donors' and destroyed his career
    • "We want to exercise power with our brains, with our young social justice activists, with our fresh brave universalists."

      I'll say this for Philip Weiss - he doesn't give up easily. Does he really believe it's possible to convince the organizations of Jewish power in the USA to stop exercising power in the way that works, in favor of some other way? There was over-representation of Jews among "social justice activists" in American history - but that was when it was in their interests!

  • Salaita's hire set off fundraising alarm at U of Illinois, per emails to chancellor
    • "Young Jews are ever more distant from Zionism." Oh good! All we have to do is wait, and American support for Israel will gradually disappear.

  • 'Common Dreams' website traps Hasbara troll spewing anti-Semitism
    • "Indeed the vast majority of Palestinian supporters bend over backwards to ensure that there is no hint of anti-Semitism in their work or discussions." This is true. At any BDS protest, you'll see and hear people making concessions to their critics, saying that criticizing Israel is not "anti-semitic", as if they have to prove something to Zionists. The anti-apartheid movement didn't worry about "anti-whiteism", but the Palestine solidarity movement is far too concerned with "anti-semitism".

    • One wonders how many racist comments online are fake. Or even whole websites, Nazi organizations and so on. How much is produced by lone provocateurs like this "Jason Beck" guy, or by organizations like the Anti-Defamation League.

  • Anti-occupation activists in New York blast United Jewish Appeal for supporting attacks on Gaza
    • "Anti-occupation activists in New York blast United Jewish Appeal for supporting attacks on Gaza" - why? Do they expect the United Jewish Appeal do anything else?

  • 'I mourn my Jewish community, which seeks to justify these inexcusable acts'
    • "One participant talked about his family’s experiences in the Holocaust. He explained that no amount of violence, of killing of civilians, is going to bring about security."

      But suppose a certain amount of violence, of killing of civilians, would bring about security. Would Susannah Nachenberg be in favor of it? And if not, why mention it?

  • Amid fierce debate, members of German think tank take a stand on Gaza
    • "Germany – deliberately, by its actions and by its silence – turns itself into an accomplice in keeping the occupation functioning and running". WWII German guilt is a major reason for this. The Rosa Luxemburg Foundation is saturated in it.

  • Jewish Voice for Peace stomps AIPAC and J Street in latest online traffic figures
    • It's a common mistake to think that being denounced by The Anti-Defamation League is to an organization's credit. The ADL and other Zionist organizations use hysterical language to criticize moderate, or completely ineffective, anti-Zionist groups. Consciously or not, this gives these groups more credit than they would otherwise have.

  • Man who saved Jewish boy in Holocaust acts to save Israel from 'racist... quagmire'
    • Henk Zanoli "...acts to save Israel from ‘racist… quagmire’" - really? How could you save Israel from racism? It would have to change its constitution so that citizenship is defined as anyone born in Palestine or whose recent (a few generations) ancestors were born in Palestine, rather than Jews from everywhere. It would immediately cease to be a Jewish majority state, in other words, it would cease to exist.

  • Israeli soldiers carved Stars of David in homes in Gaza, report Blumenthal and Cohen
    • Sorry, Mooser, it's not that "there really are no words". Max Blumenthal and others like him have plenty of words. For example, Blumental's book "Goliath" criticizes Israeli "racism", as if it is something which can be changed, like American, British or South African racism. He writes as if Israel could stop being "racist" the same way other Western states did.

    • "Most Muslims are not terrorists, whereas most Jews are Zionists." I wrote something similar on this page: - a far higher percentage of Jews support Israel than Muslims support ISIS - the two entities being roughly comparable except obviously Israel has a lot more blood on its hands.

    • “Soldiers vandalized the homes they occupied with this symbol. What sort of attitude might this encourage?” This is classic Blumenthal: Israel isn't politically correct.

      "In a month of indiscriminate bombardment, Israel has killed or injured almost twelve thousand people, including thousands of children" -

      If only Zionists could carry out ethnic cleansing without being offensive...

  • US branch of the Jewish 'family' owes the homeland 'unconditional love' -- Rosner
    • In absolute numbers, more Jews probably support Israel than Muslims support ISIS. There are about 100 times as many Muslims as Jews.

    • JeffB's comments about Americans and the IRA prove the opposite of what he intends. When George Mitchell told the British government, on behalf of the American government, to talk to the IRA, they did. When he tried the same thing in Israel, the opposite happened. Ted Kennedy supported the IRA. The Brits could do nothing about it. Whereas American politicians are fired for the slightest hint of deviation from groveling to the Jewish state. The relationships of Britain and Israel to the USA are exactly opposite: the dog wags the tail, and the tail wags the dog.

    • JeffB's list is simply a collection of politicians with Latino names. They don't lobby the US government to fund ethnic cleansing on their behalf. The US taxpayer doesn't send $8m per day to Mexican child-murderers. The USA doesn't suck up to Hispanic, black, or white ethnic supremacists.

    • seanmcbride - "If ethnic and religious nationalism is “good for the Jews,” it’s good for every other ethnic and religious group on the planet." If you believe in universal values, it is! But if you're special - not at all.

    • "JeffB" has a point. The phrase "led the charge" is too vague to use to pin down the real movers behind the Iraq catastrophe. Among the most influential advocates of that war, Jews are massively overrepresented. But so what? They were just expressing their opinion - "we think you should send your sons to die for Israel". What matters is interests. The Iraq war was in the interests of the Jewish neocons Frum, Feith, Abrams etc.. It was not in the interests of 60% of Americans. They were suckers.

    • seanmcbride: "If the UK became aggressive about promoting an Anglo-Christian agenda as official British policy, you and other Zionists would probably finally understand the distinction." No, they wouldn't. They see the Anglo-Christian agenda as 'hate' and 'racism'.

    • Mooser says "when people know I am Jewish, they assume I am Zionist". At one time, I would have said that's a racist assumption. Today, I'd be more likely to ask "why wouldn't they think that? why would you call yourself Jewish if you're not a Zionist?". How many other kinds of Jewishness are there, and what is the point of identifying with any of them?

    • Citizen: I admit I haven't done a scientific survey. My claim is impressionistic. However, having traveled quite a bit, and encountered numerous Muslims, from average Pakistanis, to extremist nuts in Hyde Park, London, and numerous Jews, from the founders of 'Jews Against Zionism' to nice, but Zionist, Israeli rock-climbers, plus a number of Jewish friends... Also, from a general impression of the popularity of Israel, compared with ISIS, among the population at large, I think it highly likely that Jews are far more likely to support supremacist violence than Muslims. I wonder why this is.

    • I'm sorry, Jabberwocky, but your comment inevitably leads to the following questions:
      - What percentage of the world's Muslims reject ISIS?
      - What percentage of the world's Jews reject Israel?
      You can bet that the second figure is much, much lower than the first.

    • "If they believe there is a need for Jewish sovereignty, Israel is the only option available to them…". Rosner's article is a remarkably clear explanation of the connection between Jewish identity and support for Israel. It's logical that more self-identified Jews listen to the likes of Shmuel Rosner than to Philip Weiss.

  • Is the firing of Steven Salaita the beginning of a new Blacklist?
    • It's not just Steven Salaita's freedom of speech that's being curtailed, it's his livelihood. Israeli academics are not granted freedom of expression by the US constitution, whereas American academics, like Steven Salaita, are.

    • Thanks, Miriam, for the link to Spiked Online. They're an interesting bunch of contrarians. They used to be an "anti-imperialist" group in Britain, highly critical of the rest of the left, often intelligently and sarcastically. Then they turned libertarian.

      The left in Britain is mostly Islamophile. It tolerates some offensive language about Jews among a small minority of Muslims which it opposes among white extremists. The Spiked Online crew see this as another opportunity to criticize the left. However, on this occasion, they are completely wrong.

    • "The new McCarthyism"? I'm not sure. Opposing the USA's unconditional support for Israel is in America's interests. McCarthyism was an attempt -- however unconstitutional and excessive -- to defend those interests against actual subversion of those interests. The Lobby's continuous attack on academic and other kinds of freedom is more analogous to the communist party than to McCarthyism.

    • Salaita is especially worth supporting because he says more than just leftist cliches about Palestine. He has the audacity to criticize the Lobby, for example, showing how the Anti-Defamation League is a 'hate group' according to its own criteria:

  • Professor Salaita was fired for disagreeing too vehemently with Professor Nelson
    • By the way, why does it always say Your comment is awaiting moderation? How does Mondoweiss know what my comments are thinking about?

  • 'We are all Palestinian'
    • “At a protest outside the Israeli Embassy last Friday, one guy had a placard drawing comparisons between the Nazis and Israel. Palestine Solidarity Campaign stewards asked for my help in persuading him to take it down, and he did. I think the PSC is taking active steps to stop this kind of thing featuring in the marches.”

      Says it all.

    • Hate to be a nattering nabob of negativism, but I'm not so impressed with these protests. In my experience, they are tightly controlled and harmless. More importantly, I totally reject the argument of Barnaby Raine and numerous other "Jews against Zionism". In a nutshell, this argument says that a strong sense of Jewish identity leads logically to opposing the worst excesses of Zionism, because Zionism is racist, and Jews have suffered from racism in the past. I'm sorry, but it doesn't follow at all, and that's why it's so completely ineffective. If it were true, it would be possible to persuade Zionists not to be Zionists on the grounds that it's against Jewish interests.

  • Steven Salaita case recalls blacklisting of Pete Seeger and Paul Robeson
    • "The Guardian" has shown its true colours in the last couple of weeks. There's been almost as much coverage about the rise of "anti-semitism" as there has been about the massacre of the Palestinians. Normally, it's a bit more subtle than the American Zionist press, but now Israel has provoked an exceptional degree of hostility, the liberal Zionists are trying to help out. But the articles about "anti-semitism" are so inept, it isn't working.

  • Gaza war gives rise to new Jewish group targeting Jewish institutions that support occupation
    • "We are alarmed and horrified by the death and destruction being committed in our name." Why are they concerned about it being committed "in our name"? Is their first concern the death and destruction, or the fact that it appears to give Jews a bad press? I was never specifically horrified by the crimes of apartheid because its organizers claimed to be standing up for the interests of white Europeans. Maybe I was wrong.

    • "A new Jewish group targeting Jewish institutions that support occupation". What, another one? Aren't there enough already? Why would you organize a "Jewish group" to oppose Jewish supremacy? Were there specifically white groups to oppose apartheid in South Africa? Aryans Against the Nazis? Proud White People Opposing Segregation?

  • Steven Salaita-- unremitting in criticism of Zionism and Gaza slaughter-- loses a job at University of Illinois
  • Jews Say: End the War on Gaza — No Aid to Apartheid Israel!
    • "Jews Say: End the War on Gaza — No Aid to Apartheid Israel!"

      "Aryans Say: End the War on Soweto — No Aid to Apartheid South Africa!"

  • Not In Our Name: The Jewish duty to stand with the people of Gaza
    • How far can you take this "not in our name" slogan? Was the attack on Iraq not American? Is the imposition of shariah law un-Sudanese? Was the KKK un-white?

    • Judaism is as contradictory as other religions - on one page God is all warm and fuzzy, the next a vengeful, brutal dictator whom one is supposed to worship. But anyway, my comment didn't mention Judaism.

    • " I feel ashamed by the persistent disregard for justice by a state supposedly founded on Jewish principles." Supposedly? Is the author really saying that Israel wasn't founded on Jewish principles?

    • Why is it "the Jewish duty to stand with the people of Gaza"? There's nothing Jewish about the interests of those people. If there is a Jewish duty, surely it's the defense of Israel. Defending the Palestinians is right, but how can anyone claim there is anything Jewish about it?

  • Chomsky supports portions of BDS agenda, but faults others, citing realism and int'l consensus
    • "Chomsky actually said the Lobby was one of the two prime factors that interact to determine US policy in the ME". Not in his major work on the subject, "Fateful Triangle". "AIPAC couldn’t get Syria or Iran bombed after it dispatched 300 Lobbyists to the Hill". The lobby isn't omnipotent.

    • Chomsky's piece in The Nation begins "The misery caused by Israel’s actions in the occupied territories has elicited serious concern among at least some Israelis."

      This sums up his approach to the Israel/Palestine question. He does say "in the occupied territories, the situation is far worse than it was in South Africa" but surely the phrase "occupied territories", which he uses several times, deliberately misses the point. Israel is occupied territory. It's not "Israel's actions in the occupied territories": Israel is an ongoing project of ethnic cleansing.

  • Jeffrey Goldberg leads the charge on latest BDS smear: Presbyterian Church divestment is anti-Semitic because David Duke supports it
    • Duke is considered to be a fascist. He used to be a member of the KKK. He has moderated since then. "To the right" I mean people like Tom Metzger, who really does preach hatred (according to Elinor Langer's book about the case in where he ended up having to pay the SPLC because he supposedly contributed to the murder of an Ethiopian). Hilary would never say she hates anyone. But surely any fascist who opposed the invasion of Iraq is morally better than her.

    • Annie - I qualified what I said by prefixing it with 'on foreign policy'. You are either in favor of murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians or you are not. Hilary is, Duke and co and you and I aren't.

    • I suspect the one mistake in the article is the reference to the guys with Nazi uniforms and confederate flags. When they quote Rachel Corrie, isn't it possible that they are aware that this harms the cause of Palestinian rights? When they show up at an anti-illegal immigration rally, surely they know that their slogans and Nazi regalia harm that cause too? They seem well-funded. Provocateurs, maybe?

    • "I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq." On foreign policy, people more right-wing than Duke have more in common with the people who write on this site than either do with Hilary Clinton! But somehow it's difficult to say "Tom Metzger is right about Iraq, but I disagree with him on his advocacy of hatred and violence against ethnic minorities".

    • "Walt and Mearsheimer and other individuals associated with publishing the study were put on the defensive and forced to fight back against this contrived connection to David Duke." They weren't really "forced" to fight back. What they should have done was to have said "OK, David Duke is right about something. So what?".

    • This article is well-researched, smart and brave.

  • Israel's unending settlements 'mortally wound idea of a Jewish state' -- Indyk
    • "What disappearance of Israel? A change of regime and abiding by the law does not disappear a country." Sorry, talknic, in this case it does. Whereas all the Republic of South Africa had to do was change its constitution, if Israel changed its constitution to bring it in line with modern Western standards, to be a state of all its inhabitants, plus the descendants of those ethnically cleansed since 1948, it would cease to be a Jewish state.

    • Indyk: "If this continues, it could mortally wound the idea of Israel as a Jewish state – and that would be a tragedy of historic proportions." Weiss says: "Do you think that would be a tragedy? I don’t. Neither do most Americans." Indyk is trying to contribute to a discussion about what tactics Jewish supremacy should adopt. He thinks settlements will harm it. They haven't done it any harm up til now.

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