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  • #JusticeForMikeBrown: NFL star Reggie Bush connects Ferguson to Palestine
    • There is no evidence that the tragic death of Michael Brown had anything to do with race. When a white person, even a cop, shoots a black person, it does not prove they are racist. To do that, you would have to show they treat white people differently in the same circumstances.

      Whereas the Palestine question has everything to do with ethnicity. There is no doubt that the Jewish state is entirely a project of racial supremacy. It is tasteless to compare Palestine with even the worst ghetto in America.

      Isn't it boring when black celebrities comment on events, certain that racism must have been involved, when they have no evidence? And isn't it predictable how liberals follow them?

  • The Minds of Others: An interview with Max Blumenthal
    • "Zionism is proscribed as part of the hegemonic narrative that’s imposed on everyone and used to advance the culture of whiteness". Presumably, that's a misprint for "prescribed"!

      Blumenthal's robotic repetition of leftist cliches about "hegemony" and "whiteness" could be amusing. But they serve a useful purpose in amalgamating the powerful force of Jewish supremacy with the left's phantom opponent, whiteness, making it hader to understand Zionism for what it really is.

    • So Max Blumenthal doesn't like Germans. Perhaps they should repay the compliment, but you know what they'd be accused of.

      "Yes, this is a sick society that hasn’t addressed the core political and psychological and social trends that lead to the Holocaust." Not true - whereas the countries which won WW II haven't "addressed" the crimes they committed doing so, Germans are always agonizing about them. Minimizing these crimes attracts a prison sentence. Whereas in the USA, the justification for the bombing of Hiroshima is debatable. There are even Germans who demonstrate every February in Dresden, saying the Allied bombing of that city was justified.

      Yet Blumenthal also admits "because of the Holocaust, Germany gives Israel discounted Corvette boats to attack fishermen in the Gaza Strip". If Germany gave up worrying about the Holocaust, it would be less inclined to support Israel. But this is not what Blumenthal means by "addressing "the core political and psychological and social trends".

      He even says that guilt about the Holocaust is part of the thing that caused it. It's damned if you do, and damned it you don't. As with a number of left-wing Jewish authors, beneath his pseudo-academic psychobabble is dislike of gentiles.

  • A handful of Wellesley students are trying to shut down discussion of Israel/Palestine
    • "We agree with Ms. Cohen’s statement that at times, “intense anti-Israel sentiment bleeds into anti-Semitism.”... full understanding of these concerns... resist all forms of oppression – not just anti-Palestinian animus... but anti-Semitism as well."

      As long as Palestine solidarity grovels and appeases its oppressors, it will lose.

  • Muslims' beliefs are 'untrue' and 'ridiculous,' 'Salon' author says, offering support for Maher's intolerance
    • "So I guess we can now criticize Judaism with no comparisons or context?" Sure. Why not? Why do you have to compare misogynistic, genocidal creeds with others? What do you mean by 'context'? 'Oh, they couldn't help it, it was the times they lived in' - like Karen Armstrong?

    • I have to withdraw my statement that Karen Armstrong converted to Islam. It was the result of reading her apologia: 'Muhammad: A Prophet For Our Time'. However, the response 'you obviously try to smear/lie about anyone who actually has anything positive and informed to say about Islam' is a bit over the top. I genuinely believe what I say about Islam and other religions.

    • Bill Maher was right not to read a book by Karen Armstrong. I wasted my time reading one of her books once. She's a once-Catholic nun who converted to Islam. I remember her apologies for stoning people to death - it was that people had different standards in those days. She should be regarded with Dawkins/Harris/Denett/Hitchens contempt.

    • "the religious beliefs in question are untrue and even ridiculous".
      This criticism of Islam doesn't imply that the virgin birth, the parting of the Red Sea, the burning bush, etc. are any more true or less ridiculous. You can criticize the barbarity and moronity of Islam without being obliged to criticize other religions at the same time.

  • 'Take your Ebola ass and get out': L.A. confrontation highlights relationship between Zionism and anti-black racism
    • "A much larger culture of bigotry and hate in Israel and among some pro-Israel supporters internationally". Some pro-Israel supporters? It's good to hear there are supporters of ethnic cleansing who don't advocate bigotry and hate.

      This piece falls into the category of articles which try to make Israel look like a normal Western country, one which can be reformed to make it less 'bigoted'. South Africa, yes. Israel, no.

  • Sh*tstirring Jeffrey Goldberg dumps diplomatic sh*tstorm with 'chickensh*t' quote
    • Mooser - that's just an 'official' saying it's a 'good' thing Netanyahu is scared to launch wars. In any case, when the USA criticizes Israel for launching a war, it's because it thinks a war is against Zionist interests. Since this story blew up, the US secretary of defense - supposedly one of the most powerful men in the world - has had to apologize for his officials' honesty. Almost all American politicians suck. What they suck, I can't really say on a family-friendly site like this.

    • It's worth noting that by calling Netanyahu 'chickenshit', the State Department is criticizing Israel for not being aggressive enough toward Iran. In other words, it's a dispute within Zionism about how to defend Israeli supremacy.

  • Under pretext of restoring calm, Netanyahu government is escalating Israel’s war on Palestinians in Jerusalem
  • Bus ads hitting US aid for Israeli 'war crimes' roll in Portland (after ban in Seattle)
    • I just saw one of these posters on a Portland bus. It's easy for Zionists to answer this argument. See the comments on Rod Such's piece in The Oregonian:
      link to oregonlive.com
      "Israel's ongoing violations" implies that Israel merely needs to change its behavior, like South Africa did. But Israel doesn't do ethnic cleansing. Israel is ethnic cleansing.

  • Allegations of anti-Semitism used to cover up anti-Palestinian hate crime in Brooklyn
    • This story is a clear illustration of the reasons for the failure of the Palestine solidarity movement. Its members really seem to think they can use left-wing morality to liberate the Palestinians. "The New York City Palestine Solidarity network “strongly condemn[ed] anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and all forms of racism,” noting that “phony accusations of anti-Semitism undermine and take lightly the seriousness and danger of true anti-Semitism.”". Why on earth would a Palestine solidarity network care about "anti-Semitism"?

  • AIPAC rabbi calls for 'militant nonviolent resistance' to racial injustice in St. Louis
    • "I don’t think you can be for justice in Ferguson as a Jew and not confront the intolerance in our community epitomized by AIPAC."

      I'm sorry, but that's exactly what you can be "as a Jew". A strong sense of ethnic identity logically leads to support for minorities when you are in a minority, and racism when you're a majority.

  • Israel's Dead Soul: Steven Salaita's critical scholarship explains his dismissal from the University of Illinois
    • Great article. Salaita's demonstration that the Anti-Defamation League, according to its own criteria, is a hate group, is surely one of the reasons the cowardly, groveling aparatchiks at the University of Illinois fired him.

  • Salaita says UI appeased 'a few wealthy donors' and destroyed his career
    • "We want to exercise power with our brains, with our young social justice activists, with our fresh brave universalists."

      I'll say this for Philip Weiss - he doesn't give up easily. Does he really believe it's possible to convince the organizations of Jewish power in the USA to stop exercising power in the way that works, in favor of some other way? There was over-representation of Jews among "social justice activists" in American history - but that was when it was in their interests!

  • Salaita's hire set off fundraising alarm at U of Illinois, per emails to chancellor
    • "Young Jews are ever more distant from Zionism." Oh good! All we have to do is wait, and American support for Israel will gradually disappear.

  • 'Common Dreams' website traps Hasbara troll spewing anti-Semitism
    • "Indeed the vast majority of Palestinian supporters bend over backwards to ensure that there is no hint of anti-Semitism in their work or discussions." This is true. At any BDS protest, you'll see and hear people making concessions to their critics, saying that criticizing Israel is not "anti-semitic", as if they have to prove something to Zionists. The anti-apartheid movement didn't worry about "anti-whiteism", but the Palestine solidarity movement is far too concerned with "anti-semitism".

    • One wonders how many racist comments online are fake. Or even whole websites, Nazi organizations and so on. How much is produced by lone provocateurs like this "Jason Beck" guy, or by organizations like the Anti-Defamation League.

  • Anti-occupation activists in New York blast United Jewish Appeal for supporting attacks on Gaza
    • "Anti-occupation activists in New York blast United Jewish Appeal for supporting attacks on Gaza" - why? Do they expect the United Jewish Appeal do anything else?

  • 'I mourn my Jewish community, which seeks to justify these inexcusable acts'
    • "One participant talked about his family’s experiences in the Holocaust. He explained that no amount of violence, of killing of civilians, is going to bring about security."

      But suppose a certain amount of violence, of killing of civilians, would bring about security. Would Susannah Nachenberg be in favor of it? And if not, why mention it?

  • Amid fierce debate, members of German think tank take a stand on Gaza
    • "Germany – deliberately, by its actions and by its silence – turns itself into an accomplice in keeping the occupation functioning and running". WWII German guilt is a major reason for this. The Rosa Luxemburg Foundation is saturated in it.

  • Jewish Voice for Peace stomps AIPAC and J Street in latest online traffic figures
    • It's a common mistake to think that being denounced by The Anti-Defamation League is to an organization's credit. The ADL and other Zionist organizations use hysterical language to criticize moderate, or completely ineffective, anti-Zionist groups. Consciously or not, this gives these groups more credit than they would otherwise have.

  • Man who saved Jewish boy in Holocaust acts to save Israel from 'racist... quagmire'
    • Henk Zanoli "...acts to save Israel from ‘racist… quagmire’" - really? How could you save Israel from racism? It would have to change its constitution so that citizenship is defined as anyone born in Palestine or whose recent (a few generations) ancestors were born in Palestine, rather than Jews from everywhere. It would immediately cease to be a Jewish majority state, in other words, it would cease to exist.

  • Israeli soldiers carved Stars of David in homes in Gaza, report Blumenthal and Cohen
    • Sorry, Mooser, it's not that "there really are no words". Max Blumenthal and others like him have plenty of words. For example, Blumental's book "Goliath" criticizes Israeli "racism", as if it is something which can be changed, like American, British or South African racism. He writes as if Israel could stop being "racist" the same way other Western states did.

    • "Most Muslims are not terrorists, whereas most Jews are Zionists." I wrote something similar on this page: link to mondoweiss.net - a far higher percentage of Jews support Israel than Muslims support ISIS - the two entities being roughly comparable except obviously Israel has a lot more blood on its hands.

    • “Soldiers vandalized the homes they occupied with this symbol. What sort of attitude might this encourage?” This is classic Blumenthal: Israel isn't politically correct.

      "In a month of indiscriminate bombardment, Israel has killed or injured almost twelve thousand people, including thousands of children" - link to mondoweiss.net

      If only Zionists could carry out ethnic cleansing without being offensive...

  • US branch of the Jewish 'family' owes the homeland 'unconditional love' -- Rosner
    • In absolute numbers, more Jews probably support Israel than Muslims support ISIS. There are about 100 times as many Muslims as Jews.

    • JeffB's comments about Americans and the IRA prove the opposite of what he intends. When George Mitchell told the British government, on behalf of the American government, to talk to the IRA, they did. When he tried the same thing in Israel, the opposite happened. Ted Kennedy supported the IRA. The Brits could do nothing about it. Whereas American politicians are fired for the slightest hint of deviation from groveling to the Jewish state. The relationships of Britain and Israel to the USA are exactly opposite: the dog wags the tail, and the tail wags the dog.

    • JeffB's list is simply a collection of politicians with Latino names. They don't lobby the US government to fund ethnic cleansing on their behalf. The US taxpayer doesn't send $8m per day to Mexican child-murderers. The USA doesn't suck up to Hispanic, black, or white ethnic supremacists.

    • seanmcbride - "If ethnic and religious nationalism is “good for the Jews,” it’s good for every other ethnic and religious group on the planet." If you believe in universal values, it is! But if you're special - not at all.

    • "JeffB" has a point. The phrase "led the charge" is too vague to use to pin down the real movers behind the Iraq catastrophe. Among the most influential advocates of that war, Jews are massively overrepresented. But so what? They were just expressing their opinion - "we think you should send your sons to die for Israel". What matters is interests. The Iraq war was in the interests of the Jewish neocons Frum, Feith, Abrams etc.. It was not in the interests of 60% of Americans. They were suckers.

    • seanmcbride: "If the UK became aggressive about promoting an Anglo-Christian agenda as official British policy, you and other Zionists would probably finally understand the distinction." No, they wouldn't. They see the Anglo-Christian agenda as 'hate' and 'racism'.

    • Mooser says "when people know I am Jewish, they assume I am Zionist". At one time, I would have said that's a racist assumption. Today, I'd be more likely to ask "why wouldn't they think that? why would you call yourself Jewish if you're not a Zionist?". How many other kinds of Jewishness are there, and what is the point of identifying with any of them?

    • Citizen: I admit I haven't done a scientific survey. My claim is impressionistic. However, having traveled quite a bit, and encountered numerous Muslims, from average Pakistanis, to extremist nuts in Hyde Park, London, and numerous Jews, from the founders of 'Jews Against Zionism' to nice, but Zionist, Israeli rock-climbers, plus a number of Jewish friends... Also, from a general impression of the popularity of Israel, compared with ISIS, among the population at large, I think it highly likely that Jews are far more likely to support supremacist violence than Muslims. I wonder why this is.

    • I'm sorry, Jabberwocky, but your comment inevitably leads to the following questions:
      - What percentage of the world's Muslims reject ISIS?
      - What percentage of the world's Jews reject Israel?
      You can bet that the second figure is much, much lower than the first.

    • "If they believe there is a need for Jewish sovereignty, Israel is the only option available to them…". Rosner's article is a remarkably clear explanation of the connection between Jewish identity and support for Israel. It's logical that more self-identified Jews listen to the likes of Shmuel Rosner than to Philip Weiss.

  • Is the firing of Steven Salaita the beginning of a new Blacklist?
    • It's not just Steven Salaita's freedom of speech that's being curtailed, it's his livelihood. Israeli academics are not granted freedom of expression by the US constitution, whereas American academics, like Steven Salaita, are.

    • Thanks, Miriam, for the link to Spiked Online. They're an interesting bunch of contrarians. They used to be an "anti-imperialist" group in Britain, highly critical of the rest of the left, often intelligently and sarcastically. Then they turned libertarian.

      The left in Britain is mostly Islamophile. It tolerates some offensive language about Jews among a small minority of Muslims which it opposes among white extremists. The Spiked Online crew see this as another opportunity to criticize the left. However, on this occasion, they are completely wrong.

    • "The new McCarthyism"? I'm not sure. Opposing the USA's unconditional support for Israel is in America's interests. McCarthyism was an attempt -- however unconstitutional and excessive -- to defend those interests against actual subversion of those interests. The Lobby's continuous attack on academic and other kinds of freedom is more analogous to the communist party than to McCarthyism.

    • Salaita is especially worth supporting because he says more than just leftist cliches about Palestine. He has the audacity to criticize the Lobby, for example, showing how the Anti-Defamation League is a 'hate group' according to its own criteria:

      link to electronicintifada.net

  • Professor Salaita was fired for disagreeing too vehemently with Professor Nelson
    • By the way, why does it always say Your comment is awaiting moderation? How does Mondoweiss know what my comments are thinking about?

  • 'We are all Palestinian'
    • “At a protest outside the Israeli Embassy last Friday, one guy had a placard drawing comparisons between the Nazis and Israel. Palestine Solidarity Campaign stewards asked for my help in persuading him to take it down, and he did. I think the PSC is taking active steps to stop this kind of thing featuring in the marches.”

      Says it all.

      link to haaretz.com

    • Hate to be a nattering nabob of negativism, but I'm not so impressed with these protests. In my experience, they are tightly controlled and harmless. More importantly, I totally reject the argument of Barnaby Raine and numerous other "Jews against Zionism". In a nutshell, this argument says that a strong sense of Jewish identity leads logically to opposing the worst excesses of Zionism, because Zionism is racist, and Jews have suffered from racism in the past. I'm sorry, but it doesn't follow at all, and that's why it's so completely ineffective. If it were true, it would be possible to persuade Zionists not to be Zionists on the grounds that it's against Jewish interests.

  • Steven Salaita case recalls blacklisting of Pete Seeger and Paul Robeson
    • "The Guardian" has shown its true colours in the last couple of weeks. There's been almost as much coverage about the rise of "anti-semitism" as there has been about the massacre of the Palestinians. Normally, it's a bit more subtle than the American Zionist press, but now Israel has provoked an exceptional degree of hostility, the liberal Zionists are trying to help out. But the articles about "anti-semitism" are so inept, it isn't working.

  • Gaza war gives rise to new Jewish group targeting Jewish institutions that support occupation
    • "We are alarmed and horrified by the death and destruction being committed in our name." Why are they concerned about it being committed "in our name"? Is their first concern the death and destruction, or the fact that it appears to give Jews a bad press? I was never specifically horrified by the crimes of apartheid because its organizers claimed to be standing up for the interests of white Europeans. Maybe I was wrong.

    • "A new Jewish group targeting Jewish institutions that support occupation". What, another one? Aren't there enough already? Why would you organize a "Jewish group" to oppose Jewish supremacy? Were there specifically white groups to oppose apartheid in South Africa? Aryans Against the Nazis? Proud White People Opposing Segregation?

  • Steven Salaita-- unremitting in criticism of Zionism and Gaza slaughter-- loses a job at University of Illinois
    • One of Salaita's best insights was to have pointed out that, according to its own criteria, the Anti Defamation League is a hate group: link to electronicintifada.net

      However, he has never taken this to its logical conclusion.

    • Krauss - not all ethno-nationalists are equal. If there are any Serbian nationalists in the USA, they are pretty harmless. What about the power of white nationalists in comparison to Jewish ones? I leave the answer to you.

  • Jews Say: End the War on Gaza — No Aid to Apartheid Israel!
    • "Jews Say: End the War on Gaza — No Aid to Apartheid Israel!"

      "Aryans Say: End the War on Soweto — No Aid to Apartheid South Africa!"

  • Not In Our Name: The Jewish duty to stand with the people of Gaza
    • How far can you take this "not in our name" slogan? Was the attack on Iraq not American? Is the imposition of shariah law un-Sudanese? Was the KKK un-white?

    • Judaism is as contradictory as other religions - on one page God is all warm and fuzzy, the next a vengeful, brutal dictator whom one is supposed to worship. But anyway, my comment didn't mention Judaism.

    • " I feel ashamed by the persistent disregard for justice by a state supposedly founded on Jewish principles." Supposedly? Is the author really saying that Israel wasn't founded on Jewish principles?

    • Why is it "the Jewish duty to stand with the people of Gaza"? There's nothing Jewish about the interests of those people. If there is a Jewish duty, surely it's the defense of Israel. Defending the Palestinians is right, but how can anyone claim there is anything Jewish about it?

  • Chomsky supports portions of BDS agenda, but faults others, citing realism and int'l consensus
    • "Chomsky actually said the Lobby was one of the two prime factors that interact to determine US policy in the ME". Not in his major work on the subject, "Fateful Triangle". "AIPAC couldn’t get Syria or Iran bombed after it dispatched 300 Lobbyists to the Hill". The lobby isn't omnipotent.

    • Chomsky's piece in The Nation begins "The misery caused by Israel’s actions in the occupied territories has elicited serious concern among at least some Israelis."

      This sums up his approach to the Israel/Palestine question. He does say "in the occupied territories, the situation is far worse than it was in South Africa" but surely the phrase "occupied territories", which he uses several times, deliberately misses the point. Israel is occupied territory. It's not "Israel's actions in the occupied territories": Israel is an ongoing project of ethnic cleansing.

  • Jeffrey Goldberg leads the charge on latest BDS smear: Presbyterian Church divestment is anti-Semitic because David Duke supports it
    • Duke is considered to be a fascist. He used to be a member of the KKK. He has moderated since then. "To the right" I mean people like Tom Metzger, who really does preach hatred (according to Elinor Langer's book about the case in where he ended up having to pay the SPLC because he supposedly contributed to the murder of an Ethiopian). Hilary would never say she hates anyone. But surely any fascist who opposed the invasion of Iraq is morally better than her.

    • Annie - I qualified what I said by prefixing it with 'on foreign policy'. You are either in favor of murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians or you are not. Hilary is, Duke and co and you and I aren't.

    • I suspect the one mistake in the article is the reference to the guys with Nazi uniforms and confederate flags. When they quote Rachel Corrie, isn't it possible that they are aware that this harms the cause of Palestinian rights? When they show up at an anti-illegal immigration rally, surely they know that their slogans and Nazi regalia harm that cause too? They seem well-funded. Provocateurs, maybe?

    • "I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq." On foreign policy, people more right-wing than Duke have more in common with the people who write on this site than either do with Hilary Clinton! But somehow it's difficult to say "Tom Metzger is right about Iraq, but I disagree with him on his advocacy of hatred and violence against ethnic minorities".

    • "Walt and Mearsheimer and other individuals associated with publishing the study were put on the defensive and forced to fight back against this contrived connection to David Duke." They weren't really "forced" to fight back. What they should have done was to have said "OK, David Duke is right about something. So what?".

    • This article is well-researched, smart and brave.

  • Israel's unending settlements 'mortally wound idea of a Jewish state' -- Indyk
    • "What disappearance of Israel? A change of regime and abiding by the law does not disappear a country." Sorry, talknic, in this case it does. Whereas all the Republic of South Africa had to do was change its constitution, if Israel changed its constitution to bring it in line with modern Western standards, to be a state of all its inhabitants, plus the descendants of those ethnically cleansed since 1948, it would cease to be a Jewish state.

    • Indyk: "If this continues, it could mortally wound the idea of Israel as a Jewish state – and that would be a tragedy of historic proportions." Weiss says: "Do you think that would be a tragedy? I don’t. Neither do most Americans." Indyk is trying to contribute to a discussion about what tactics Jewish supremacy should adopt. He thinks settlements will harm it. They haven't done it any harm up til now.

  • Now that Israel has killed the two-state solution, will liberal Zionists support equality or ethnocracy?
    • "Now that Israel has killed the two-state solution, will liberal Zionists support equality or ethnocracy?" Supporters of racial supremacy tend to support racial supremacy. Imagine if someone had written "Now that Germany has killed the pact with Chamberlain, will the SA (the 'left' of the Nazi party) support equality or ethnocracy?"

  • Max Blumenthal's guilt by association – with Jewish ethics
    • The recent attacks on Max Blumenthal by Zionists sound ridiculous, but they have a purpose. One of the aims of these kind of attacks is to give credibility to moderate, ineffective critics of Israel, some of whom make equally intemperate attacks on real critics of Israel. Hysterical denunciations of Max Blumenthal, Omar Barghouti, Judith Butler, and so on, have the effect of making them look, within the Palestine solidarity movement, effective - if Zionists fear them, they must be doing a good job, we are tempted to conclude. Alison Weir made the same mistake, when her organization was attacked by the Anti-Defamation League. She thought it was a compliment.

  • Long ago, Bill Buckley and Woody Allen agreed on occupation
    • This discussion from nearly 50 years ago is an illustration of the irrelevance of the concepts 'progressive' and 'reactionary' when it comes to Jewish interests. It's a complete diversion. Allen agrees with Buckley on ethnic cleansing - his liberalism is irrelevant. "Giles" (above) is incredibly naive: "It is disheartening to see someone whose art you admire and who is progressive on most topics... turn into a raving racist when it comes to Israel". Surely the most economical explanation is that it's in Allen's ethnic interests to be "progressive on most topics", but "a raving racist" (that's a bit of an overstatement) "when it comes to Israel". There's no point in being "disheartened".

  • Reports of anti-Semitism in Ukraine and Hungary
    • "...privileged and at the center of power. True enough in America–but America is not the world. If I were a Hungarian Jew, I’d probably feel like the option of emigration to Israel is something I’d want in my back pocket, even if I was an Hungarian patriot fighting the good fight. And that would not be dysfunctional psychology."

      Are Hungarians inherently more racially oppressive than Americans? Is "anti-semitism" in Eastern Europe the result of backwardness? This is what we are implicitly taught, but it's contradictory to oppose racial stereotyping in this way.

  • Haaretz joins Rush Limbaugh and company in trying to link Max Blumenthal to KC shooter suspect
    • To accuse Blumenthal of having anything to do with violent white extremists is beyond ridiculous, and symptomatic of the disintegration of Zionist ideology: a welcome development. Before his mild criticisms of Israeli fanatics, he was a leading light in the 'hate industry' - the exaggeration of white extremism - for what purpose, I don't know.

      This entertaining article also raises a serious issue. What do you do when David Duke agrees with you? Mearsheimer and Walt expressed embarrassment. But why? Their critique of the Lobby DOES bear some passing resemblance to some of what the ex-KKK leader has been saying for decades in a cruder and more offensive form.

      The honorable and logical reaction to finding that SOME white extremists sometimes express SOME truthful ideas, is to simply say one agrees with SOME of what they say.

  • Passover for Palestine
    • "The results are devastating for Palestinians. In the long run, are they less disastrous for Jews?" Yes, of course they are.

      "How can Jews celebrate Passover when we are oppressing another people?" Quite easily.

  • The Jewish community must not embrace Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    • "You may have missed the parts of the religion that forbid the killing of civilians and of taking one’s own life." "Why... don’t you guys go read the darn thing yourselves?!" - I did. Like most religious texts, it's full of contradictions - "compassion" one minute, wishing violent punishments on kafirs the next: "but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them".

      "Neither she nor al-effing-quaida are the definers of islam." Maybe not, maybe so. Why should I take Walid's authority over Ayaan Hirsi Ali's?

    • "Are you really going to tell a catholic or protestant that one version or the other is more authentic?". Yes.

    • Walid asks us to resolve this vexing question by taking a vote on it. But the hardline Sunni factions say that Islam isn't a democracy, and how would we know that they are wrong, and Walid is right?

    • That's a brilliant comment, Stephen. I don't know which branch of Islam is the most authentic. Neither do most of the commenters on this and similar blogs. Yet many of us are quick to say that bin Laden's crew don't really represent Muslims (I must have said that a dozen times during w/e September 15th 2001). Maybe Ali is right, and al-Qaeda are the most Muslim Muslims. Maybe it's logical for Sunnis to regard Shi'ism as a heresy, just as it was logical for Catholics to burn Protestants. We don't want to believe that, because it's Islamophobic. I stopped listening to allegations of 'anti-semitism' years ago. It's time to stop worrying about 'Islamophobia' too.

    • "Seafoid", quoting "The Jewish Week": "despite the fact that Geller sees herself as “a pro-Israel advocate“, Geller doesn’t do us any favors." Pam Geller doesn't do Israel any favors. So what's the problem, then?

    • Rachel Roberts argues that the "Jewish community must not embrace" Ali, an ex-Muslim. But her argument rapidly moves on from telling the Jewish community what it must and must not do. She draws an analogy with a university hosting "someone who openly opines that being Jewish is incompatible with Western values", and says she thinks "Jewish organizations" should "take exception" to a university offering this speaker an award. These organizations are more powerful than the phrase "take exception" implies. The ADL and numerous other Jewish groups actively oppose freedom of speech on Jewish issues. Why wouldn't they "embrace" Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

  • On John Judis's 'Genesis,' and its critics
    • "Remarkable to read this in Mondoweiss: a defense of kinder, gentler ethnic cleansing" (Jim Holstun). But you can often read on Mondoweiss arguments for the "two state solution", "end the occupation" - these solutions keep the Jewish state, the fruit of the ethnic cleansing of 1948, in place.

      Slater does defend his argument - he says two states is the only realistic solution. That's beside the point. It's not for American people to tell people in Palestine to conform to the facts of American politics. It's for us to change those politics.

  • NYC Community Board member calls BDS 'the face of anti-Semitism'
    • I thought of the phrase "anti-gentilism". I googled it, and found that it does exist, but I'd never heard it in my whole life. I've heard the phrase "anti-semitism" thousands of times, despite the fact that it has barely existed during my lifetime.

  • Israel lobby AIPAC is down, but not out -- yet
    • "When a small group like this has disproportionate power, that hurts everyone—including Israelis and American Jews." Shouldn't that read "hurts everyone except Israelis and American Jews"?

    • "Even General David Petraeus admitted that the U.S./Palestine conflict “foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel.”" - only a sectarian leftist like Benjamin could put it like that. The words "even" and "admitted" distort the simple fact that military men often notice the elephant in the room where leftists, liberals and Democrats are too easily blackmailed by the phrase 'antisemitism'.

  • Boycotting the land you love: Israeli activist Leehee Rothschild on BDS and the struggle for Palestinian rights
    • "Rothschild is part of a small group of Israeli Jews looking to lift their country out of the ugly muck of right-wing racism and occupation."

      Into what? Left-wing racism and occupation? "Their country" is based on ethnic cleansing. The idea that it can be "lifted" out of this is an illusion. I wonder if Rothschild's "small group of Israeli Jews" are really as naive as they appear to be.

  • When you type 'apartheid' on Google search, it supplies 'Israel'
    • Phil - Google search is personalized. It could be that you've searched for 'Israel and apartheid' together in the past. If you get a brand-new browser with no cookies (e.g. Opera), and try, it might have different results.

  • Jewish community commits intellectual suicide before our eyes
    • Equality, human rights, etc. helped the Jewish community to some extent. This explains Jewish overrepresentation in the civil rights movement and leftism in general, which continues to exaggerate white racism, deflecting attention from Zionism. But this hardly compares with Zionism itself, which has put Jews in the position of being the only "ethnic group" (however defined) which has its own apartheid state, backed to the hilt by all the world's most powerful countries, of which any Jew can become a citizen, and live on recently ethnically-cleansed land. That's power.

    • "The desperate pass to which Zionism has brought the American Jewish community". Really? Surely Zionism has brought the American - and world - Jewish community to the most powerful position in its history.

    • "Einstein, Marx and Freud". 1 out of 3 ain't bad.

  • Princeton restaurant promotes night of Israeli wine-- from occupied Golan
  • The campaign against BDS is a deliberate choice to maintain the status quo
    • "The campaign against BDS is a deliberate choice to maintain the status quo"

      Yes - by giving the false impression that the BDS movement is some kind of opposition to Zionist power.

  • Transcript: Netanyahu calls on U.S. Jews to fight BDS-- 'eerie' anti-Semites 'on the soil of Europe'
    • "All too common amongst your ancestors". Suppose 'German Lefty' made a similar remark about Hophmi's ancestors! We live in a philosemitic world.

  • Hell freezes over (NYT publishes glowing profiles of anti-Zionists)
    • Another way of looking at this is "who are the 'anti-Zionists' whom the NYT has published profiles of?" Surely it is likely that they are harmless, or worse. Jewish Voice for Peace? Being profiled positively in the NYT is hardly a compliment.

      Hell hasn't frozen over.

  • EU Prez Martin Schulz wreaks havoc during speech at Knesset
  • Goldberg and Cohen stoke fears of BDS
    • Henry: "BDS is attracting liberal kids (and others) as a weapon against the occupation, but actually enlisting them in a cause that goes much farther."

      So... by pretending you're just against "the occupation", you can slyly convince people that a state based on ethnic cleansing is wrong in itself? No, not at all. The official BDS movement has committed itself to the 1967 borders. That's why Kerry can mention its existence. You have to tell the truth. The Jewish state is ethnic cleansing.

    • Well put, Henry. That's what I was trying to say. Except, as I mentioned above, the BDS organization led by Barghouti et. al. quietly changed their demands.

    • Goldberg's comment means
      "Most boycotters are not merely opposed to the occupation, but to the existence of a Jewish state". So what I meant was "most boycotters may be against the apartheid state as well as the occupation". And the official BDS movement has weakened.

    • "most boycotters are not opposed to Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, but instead to the idea of a country for the Jewish people'... that may be true, but the BDS movement itself changed its aim from demanding that Israel ends
      its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands
      to
      its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967
      That's why Kerry can mention it - it's part of Israel's 'fallback' position, withdrawing to the 1967 line, making it look like a setback, when it's the reward for ethnic cleansing.

  • 'NYT' highlights AIPAC's first failure in 30 years, as de Blasio and Hillary jump on Iran bandwagon
    • Quotes from the article above: "The lobby is splitting" - tactical maneuver. "until such time as Jewish Voice for Peace replaces J Street as the lefthand segment of the Jewish community." - ditto.

    • Annie: perhaps I miswrote - instead of "politicians who think" one way or the other, I should have written "politicians who pretend to think". On the other hand, politicians don't think the way normal people do. For all I know, Dick Cheney may actually believe Iraq had something to do with September 11th.. You ask "what purpose for the lobby?":
      1. To ensure all American politicians support Israel
      2. To give the impression that some of them oppose Israel when they don't by making shrill attacks on them

    • Defeat for AIPAC? Maybe. Defeat for the Lobby? No. The argument is between politicians who think sanctions will help keep Iranians terrorized by Israel's nuclear weapons, and those who think relaxing sanctions will do the job better. Both sides want to keep Israel hundreds of times more powerful than all its neighbors together.

  • Israelis accuse Kerry of courting rockets, anti-Semitism, and Nobel Prize
    • Classic Zionist strategy. Accuse lackeys of Israel who make mild criticisms occasionally of "anti-semitism" - it gives them credibility at the expense of actual opponents of the apartheid state.

  • Do SodaStream's workers have the right to vote? Roger Waters asks Scarlett Johansson

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