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Jerry Hirsch

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  • Dispatch from 'the most ****ed up place on Earth,' Hebron's H2 quarter
    • Mooser, Emma's comment is factual. The authenticity of the Cave of the Patriarchs is one of few issues both Arabs and Jews agree.

      The fact that it's located in Hebron in the West Bank is part of a mountain of evidence that proves the Jewish claim to what is erroneously called Palestine, is in reality the birthplace of their civilization and that their right of return is just.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

  • Westchester legislature prepares bill saying BDS 'maligns the Jewish people,' and opponents organize
    • https://youtu.be/ASIBGSSw4lI

      I don't know if the entire transcript is available.

    • Do you agree with the point Finkelstein is making? That many within the BDS movement are not upfront about their motives and are using it to destroy the State of Israel?

    • Are the anti Zionsts here aware that Norman Finkelstein, a supporter of BDS in general, does not support the organization that promotes it? That their goal is dishonest, the elimination of Israel, which even Finkelstein does not agree.

      If such a strident critic of Israel doesn't support this goal, is it any wonder that other government entities do not as well?

      "I've earned my right to speak my mind, and I’m not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.

      .....

      I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They don’t want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result?

      You know and I know what the result is. There’s no Israel!

      . . .

      It’s not an accident, an unwitting omission, that BDS does not mention Israel. You know that and I know that. It’s not like they’re “oh we forgot to mention it.” They won’t mention it because they know it will split the movement, 'cause there’s a large segment of the movement which wants to eliminate Israel.

      . . .

      Are you going to reach a broad public which is going to hear the Israeli side ‘they want to destroy us?’ No you’re not. And frankly you know what you shouldn’t. You shouldn’t reach a broad public because you’re dishonest. And I wouldn’t trust those people if I had to live in this state. I wouldn’t. It’s dishonesty.“

  • Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    • James, Finklestein makes a rather feeble argument by his ommission of the fact that Israel's oil supply was completely blocked off by the closure of the Strait of Tiran. It's foolish for him to say 95% of Israel's imports were still available when the lack of oil would soon make them 100% undeliverable.

      Any nation that had such a critical energy source cut off would have no choice but to remedy the situation by any means necessary. Nasser had no intention of negotiating with a country it refused to acknowledge so the only choice Israel had was war.

  • Map map on the wall, who's most existing of them all?
    • Misterioso, to establish for the record that today's Palestinian Arabs are descended from the ancient Canaanites requires evidence.

      There are currently four competing claims to their true ancestry.

      1. Canaanite
      2. Philistine
      3. Arab
      4. Jewish

      Apparently the Palestinian Arabs themselves are confused as to their ancestry. Can you clear up this confusion and provide the evidence that will settle this issue?

    • Yonifalic,

      Elhaik's Khazar theory you allude to has been debunked, and by a surprising source.

      David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan refutes Elhaiks Khazar theory. Here is a short excerpt from his well documented rebuttal.

      "The most important error in Elhaik’s paper, however, is actually openly admitted: namely that there is actually no “Khazar DNA” in existence, against which any sort of measurement can be taken.

      Elhaik himself admits this in his paper: the “Khazars have been vanquished and their remains have yet to be sequenced. . .”—in other words there is no record of what exactly Khazar DNA might have been.

      As there is no record of what Khazar DNA is—it is, ipso facto, physically impossible to determine who is descended from it and who is not.

      Elhaik attempts to circumvent this major problem by selecting what he calls “surrogate populations”—in this case, “contemporary Middle Eastern and Caucasus populations.”

      Anyone with a basic understanding of historical events in the Caucasus in particular will immediately see that Elhaik’s assertion that current populations in that region can be taken to reflect those of 1,500 years ago, is highly problematic and quite simply, unsustainable.

      The Caucasus, a region at the border of Europe and Asia, situated between the Black and the Caspian seas, has been crisscrossed by numerous peoples and races over the last 2000 years, ranging from Indo-Europeans, Semites, Mongols and others—and is today highly genetically diverse. A claim that DNA samples from this region can be taken as any sort of DNA yardstick, is dubious to say the very least.

      Finally, Elhaik’s methodology in comparing the DNA samples is, to make an understatement, unique to him. As Marcus Feldman, director of Stanford University’s Morrison Institute for Population and Resource Studies, said, “He [Elhaik] appears to be applying the statistics in a way that gives him different results from what everybody else has obtained from essentially similar data.”

      https://www.justice4poland.com/2016/08/16/rethinking-the-khazar-theory/amp/

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