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B.S. Ga. Tech ~ J.D. (law) Mercer U. [Also see -] • One of the reasons I began following developments in the Middle East has to do with the happenstance that I was away from Atlanta visiting my grandfather (with little to do but read) in June, 1967. In that part of Georgia, the television reception with a rotating antenna was much better for the Augusta and Macon stations than it was for the Atlanta stations, but since the programming of the Augusta and Macon stations was not up to Atlanta standards, the television was seldom used. This time though, as luck (or not) would have it, one of the two Augusta stations preempted its daytime programming with the deliberations by the UN General Assembly of proposals that might lessen the likelihood of war. I very much enjoyed watching several days of this, and I was very disappointed when I got up on June 5 and the station had reverted to its customary daytime programming because Israel had bombed the Egyptian air force on the tarmac in Egypt. Needless to say, I did not at all see Israel's action(s) as defensive. All told, this made quite a lasting impression (unfavorable as to Israel) on me! • I recall one particular Six Day War joke that was told by a classmate of mine (not one of my Jewish friends, who were much less chauvinistic) during my senior year of high school here in Atlanta (the year following the Six Day War). Actually, to be more accurate, I only remember the gist of the joke at this point. As I recall the joke (told by a Jewish female), there was a busload of Egyptian children somewhere in the Sinai. The punchline was that the mighty Israeli military virtually vaporized the entire bus full of Egyptian children. [Riotous laughter here, excepting me.] There wasn't a single survivor! ["Ha, ha, ha" (excepting me) ! ! ! ] •Another reason I began paying close attention the Israel/Palestine issue was because Israel's actions/behavior seemed so very much unlike the actions/behavior of my Jewish friends. Consequently, I have spent decades trying to understand the incongruity. • Lastly, since the U.S. unfortunately seems to emulate Israel in many ways (preemptive wars, Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, for instance), I have come to be especially concerned about Israel's behavior (which might unfortunately be adopted by our own government). I tend not to worry quite so much (though perhaps I should) that the U.S will emulate Rwanda, Uzbekistan, Belarus or Myanmar/Burma. This "monkey see, monkey do" phenomenon that seems to occur between the U.S. and Israel illustrates my fear that Likudnik Israel (specifically by virtue of its inordinate sway over the U.S.) with its Revisionist Zionism might very well be an “existential threat” to the values of The Enlightenment ! ! !


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  • Welcome the doubting liberals
    • "God created war so that Americans would learn geography." ~ Mark Twain in Innocents Abroad [No longer very innocently abroad! ~ J.L.D.]

      ALL I CAN SAY is that judging from Americans' knowledge of geography, God is a pi## poor teacher! We've been at war in Afghanistan for about 17 years now, yet the MSM thinks Afghanistan is in the Middle East!

    • RE: “Afghanistan,” she said brightly. “That’s in Africa, right?”


      Afghanistan - Wikipedia
      Afghanistan officially the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, is a landlocked country located within South Asia and Central Asia. Afghanistan is bordered by Pakistan in the south and east; Iran in the west; Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north; and in the far northeast, China. Its territory covers 652,000 square ...

      Afghanistan | history - geography |
      Mar 18, 2018 - Afghanistan: Afghanistan, landlocked multiethnic country located in the heart of south-central Asia. Lying along important trade routes connecting southern and eastern Asia to Europe and the Middle East, Afghanistan has long been a prize sought by empire builders, and for millennia great armies have ...

    • RE: When Israel’s Defence Minister says, “There are no innocent people in Gaza,” I feel absolutely frantic. What does that man feel entitled to do next? ~ Marilyn Garson


      FACTBOX: Israel's Lieberman and controversial comments - Reuters

      Apr 1, 2009 - (Reuters) - Israel's incoming foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, has stirred controversy over the years with comments about Arabs, notably Arab Israeli citizens and also Egypt. He once suggested Egypt's Aswan Dam might be bombed and last year he said the president of Israel's Arab peace partner could “go to hell.”

      Following is a selection of quotes from Lieberman, head of the Yisrael Beitenu party . . .


    • P.S. ALSO SEE:
      The kids of Jesus Camp, 10 years later: 'Was it child abuse? Yes and no'
      ▪ The controversial 2006 documentary about an evangelical church camp outraged secular audiences, but its subjects have mixed memories
      By Josiah Hesse | 6 July 2016
      EXCERPT: . . . Ten years later, Sommerkamp (yes, that’s his real name) has abandoned evangelical Christianity, living with a group of spiritual seekers in Mount Shasta, California. His split from the evangelical world happening when his father came out as gay. He says he spent several years angry at the church, but has since discovered peace in eastern mysticism, quantum mechanics, and psychotropic drugs. . .

    • Jesus Camp (2006) Official Trailer #1 - Documentary Movie HD

      ENTIRE DOCUMENTARY [1:24:45]

    • RE: "As Israel radicalizes, some liberal (on matters other than Palestine) Jews are shuddering and hesitating in their reflexive Zionism. " ~ Marilyn Garson

      IF THE SHOE FITS . . .
      One of Us (2017)
      1h 35min | Documentary | 20 October 2017 (USA)
      Penetrating the insular world of New York's Hasidic community, focusing on three individuals driven to break away despite threats of retaliation.
      ▪ IMDb -
      ▪ Netflix Streaming -

  • Palestinian Christians and Muslims call on faith communities to help end the occupation
  • Portman's move puts pressure on liberal Zionists to take a stand
    • RE:"If the Israeli govt thinks this will just go away, or it can just be waited out, and that there will be no longterm consequences for its relationship with American Jewry or for American support for Israel, then they are ostriches with their heads in the sand." ~ Michael Koplow of the Israel Policy Forum

      MY COMMENT: I might say they are ostriches with their heads surrounded by an impenetrable iron wall topped off by a penetration-resistant iron dome (courtesy of their ever-indulgent Uncle Sam)!

    • RE: "then you qualify as a illiberal liberal Zionist." ~ Haber (who is a very good writer)

      MY QUESTION: Why would you not qualify as an (as opposed to 'a') illiberal liberal Zionist?

      Illiberal democracy
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ~
      An illiberal democracy, also called a partial democracy, low intensity democracy, empty democracy, or hybrid regime,[1] is a governing system in which, although elections take place, citizens are cut off from knowledge about the activities of those who exercise real power because of the lack of civil liberties. . .

      The Rule is Not “A” Before Consonants and “An” Before Vowels
      By: Brian A. Klems | July 27, 2012

      Many people adhere to a belief that you use the article “a” before words that begin with consonants and “an” before words that begin with vowels. But that isn’t the rule, and it’s important to avoid this rookie mistake before turning over your manuscript to agents and editors.

      The real rule is this: You use the article “a” before words that start with a consonant sound and “an” before words that start with a vowel sound. For example, He has a unique point of view on the subject and talked about it for an hour. The “u” in “unique” makes the “Y” sound—a consonant sound—therefore you use “a” as your article, while the “h” in “hour” sounds like it starts with “ow”—a vowel sound.

      SOURCE -

  • Revealed: Israeli Justice Ministry directly involved in international 'lawfare' activities against BDS movement
    • RE: "There are many sensitivities, and I can’t even explain in an open forum why there are such sensitivities, a major part of what we do stays under the radar”, Vaknin-Gil said, and added that the ministry aims to “build a community of warriors."

      SEE: ◙ "Israeli Foreign Ministry director slams government’s clandestine anti-BDS arm" | By Noa Landau | | Feb 26, 2018 | 6:05 PM
      • The clash at the Knesset Transparency Committee highlighted infighting between the foreign and strategic affairs ministries

      [EXCERT] The director general of the Foreign Ministry, Yuval Rotem, escalated its spat with the Strategic Affairs Ministry on Monday, accusing it of operating in the dark.

      Rotem charged that the staff of the Strategic Affairs Ministry, which is headed at the cabinet level by Likud Knesset member Gilad Erdan, insist on joining overseas delegations and then hide what they’re doing. The spat began with the Strategic Affairs Ministry complaining to the Knesset’s Transparency Committee that in fact the Foreign Ministry was uncooperative.

      “The people at the Strategic Affairs Ministry join Foreign Ministry delegations, then when they get there, they disappear. They don’t report on their actions, they hide the content of their actions and it’s impossible to know what they did and where they went,” Rotem told the Transparency Committee.

      Incensed at the allegations, the Strategic Affairs Ministry called the allegations strange: “We know nothing about ministry people joining Foreign Ministry delegations and certainly about them disappearing. We thank the director general of the Foreign Ministry for his concern and can report that the ministry people are present and working zealously against the boycott and legitimization movements [BDS], according to the mandate given them by government.” . . .

      SOURCE -

      P.S. PHOTO: Strategic Affairs Minister Erdan, left, at the Knesset with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

  • Reclaiming Judaism from mystical nationalism
    • A nice summary of Nazi ideology. Thanks for the link.

    • RE: “The nation has a soul awakening. The shekhina [God’s spirit] is returning to Zion. The spirit of the Jewish people [knesset Yisrael] has appeared! From the deep wellsprings of life, the nation comes back to life.” ~ Rabbi Sadan

      MY COMMENT: That certainly reeks of fascism. It's very similar to things said in Germany and Italy in the 1930s. And, it's not completely unlike "make America great again"!

  • Come in, Natalie, the water's fine
    • The enemies list
      by Philip Weiss on August 11, 2015

      • Jimmy Carter

      • Rashid Khalidi

      • James A. Baker

      • Debbie Almontaser

      • Chas Freeman

      • Joseph Massad

      • George C. Marshall

      • Steven Salaita

      • Max Blumenthal

      • Chris Hedges

      • Zbig Brzezinski

      • Vanessa Redgrave

      • Charles W. Percy

      • Cynthia McKinney

      • Rick Sanchez

      Richard Goldstone

      • Jim Clancy

      • Chuck Hagel

      • Earl Hilliard

      • Paul Findley

      • Norman Finkelstein

      • Edward Said

      • Stephen Walt

      • Rula Jebreal

      • John Mearsheimer

      • Bruce Shipman

      • Dorothy Thompson

      • Helen Thomas

      • Barack Obama


      SOURCE -

    • RE: ‘Liberal Zionist’ leaders like ‘leftist’ Prime Minister Levi Eshkol wanted to send Palestinians “to the moon”. “I want them all to go, even if they go to the moon”, he said.

      Fly them to the moon.
      Let them play among the stars.
      Let them see what spring is like
      on Jupiter and Mars!

  • Natalie Portman's criticism of 'atrocities' leaves Israel's advocates silent
    • ■ One of Us (2017)
      1h 35min | Documentary | 20 October 2017 (USA)
      Penetrating the insular world of New York's Hasidic community, focusing on three individuals driven to break away despite threats of retaliation.
      ▪ IMDb -
      ▪ Netflix Streaming -

      "Nobody leaves the Hasidic community, unless they're willing to pay the price."

    • RE: NATALIE PORTMAN- “Israel was created exactly 70 years ago as a haven for refugees from the Holocaust.”

      MY REPLY: Obama was skewered by the right-wing Zionists for saying (approximately) in his Cairo speech that Israel was created as a haven for refugees from the Holocaust. They were truly enraged because it does not necessarily justify Israel's colonization of "Judea and Samaria" (i.e., the occupied West Bank).
      Rather, according to them (including Netanyahu, and possibly Schumer), Israel was created thousands of years ago by God's Exclusive Land Grant to the Jews. Just ask John Hagee!

    • Don't assume that she didn't discover some disconcerting aspects (or aspects that have since that time become disconcerting to her in the context of ongoing events) of Israel's history whilst doing research for Dershowitz's book defending Israel!
      Not to say that you should necessarily assume that she did.

    • P.S. Under such circumstances [where people have not felt free in the past to voice their reservations (i.e., “waver”)], when the dominoes really start falling, they will most likely fall very quickly, and quite hard (i.e., decisively, with a resounding 'thud'). And, there's probably nothing the Adelsons and their ilk can do about it.

    • RE: "One can always count on Caroline Glick to be thoroughly obnoxious." ~ me, above

      QUALIFICATION: Which is not to say she is quite as reliably obnoxious as "Manhattan socialite" Pamela Geller!

    • RE: "she is extremely jealous " ~ me, above

      ELUCIDATION: This use of "jealousy" is an old hasbara trick, in case you didn't recognize it. Another hasbara trick is to smear the person being critical of Israel by saying "she/he's cashing in" [i.e., making a fortune (or advancing their career) by criticizing Israel]. Watch for this and many other hasbara tricks to be used in smearing Portman in the coming weeks/months/years!

    • RE: "The thing that makes Portman’s refusal to appear at an event in Israel so curious is that the actress, who was born in Jerusalem in 1981, has never wavered in her public support of Israel before."

      MY COMMENT: That's the way it works when you have such aggressive enforcement of the 'party line' (e.g., Goldstone), and people are not free to voice their reservations (i.e., "waver").

    • RE: "One can always count on Caroline Glick to be thoroughly obnoxious." ~ me above

      ELABORATION: Of course, Glick "grew up" (i.e., she supposedly 'grew up', but never quite learned to act like an adult) in Chicago, so that might be a big part of the "problem". In addition, it is quite possible that she is extremely jealous of Natalie Portman's success/popularity in the Americas, Europe and Asia. Who can blame Glick for that?!?!

    • RE: "Not all the guard dogs are choking. Caroline Glick writes: Natalie Portman is vile. Shame on her."

      MY COMMENT: One can always count on Caroline Glick to be thoroughly obnoxious.
      She never, ever disappoints!

  • Four are killed, as Gaza protesters move tents closer to border
    • RE: "Four are killed, as Gaza protesters move tents closer to border"

      "Israel to investigate killing of 15-year-old in Gaza border, says Trump envoy Greenblatt
      • The statement follows harsh condemnation from UN coordinator in Mideast peace plan calling the shooting of teenager Mohammed Ayoub 'outrageous'
      Amir Tibon | Apr. 21, 2018 | 2:46 AM | 2

      [EXCERPT] WASHINGTON - Jason Greenblatt, President Trump's special envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, said on Friday that Israel is investigating the death of a Palestinian teenager in Gaza, who was killed during the protests near the border fence between Israel and Gaza on Friday.

      "A full investigation by Israel of Mohammed Ayoub’s death is underway so that we will be able to understand what happened," Greenblatt stated. He added that "as we mourn the tragic loss of a young life, we must all resolve to avoid causing more suffering by responses to his death."

      On Thursday, Greenblatt wrote that "Palestinians in Gaza have the right to protest their dire humanitarian circumstances," but at the same time, added that "organizers and leaders should focus on that message, not stoke the potential for more violence with firebombs and flaming kites." He also stated that Palestinian protesters in the coastal enclave"must keep a safe distance from the border." . . .

      SOURCE -

  • Israeli gunshots are causing 'unusually severe damage' to legs, exit wounds as big as a fist -- human rights group
    • RE: "MSF medical teams note the injuries include an extreme level of destruction to bones and soft tissue, and large exit wounds that can be the size of a fist."

      THE HASBARIST SEZ: "Everyone knows" you can't believe a thing those Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) stooges say. For Christ's sake, they're a bunch of French commies!

  • While marchers can't breathe, people like you are making sure their stories spread around the world
  • Natalie Portman says, Enough!
  • Israel and its Democratic Party friends complain -- Trump gave Syria to Russia 'on a silver platter'
  • The 'Jewish nation' is the central myth of Zionism. It needs to be dismantled.
    • P.S. ALSO SEE:
      Israel at Seventy: Is the Right Winning the Culture War?
      By Bernard Avishai | | April 18, 2018

      (EXCERPT) Nitzan Waisberg, a lecturer on design thinking at the Tel Aviv University business school, was born in Israel forty-four years ago, the daughter of a psychologist and a yoga instructor. She attended Jerusalem’s Bezalel School of Arts and Design and the Royal College of Art, in London; lived in Los Angeles, London, and Sydney; and consulted for companies like Procter & Gamble and Gallup. In 2012, she returned to Israel, leaving a teaching appointment at Stanford University. She was determined to bring “Bay Area optimism and Silicon Valley problem-solving,” she told me, to what she knew was a changing public life in Israel. (Her uncle is Ehud Barak, the former Prime Minister.) She has four children—three of whom attend mamlachti, or secular, public schools in Tel Aviv—and she was naturally preoccupied with helping them adjust to their new life. “But I found I was living in an emotional bunker,” she said. “I came back to a country my grandparents founded, to raise my children. I didn’t recognize the place.”

      Two years ago, Waisberg’s preschooler came home just before Rosh Hashanah, talking about a “big man” who had visited her class and talked about “dead animals.” A few days later, the teacher sent home a picture of an Orthodox rabbi blowing the shofar in class. “This was right at the beginning of the school year, just as my daughter was learning to trust her space, with no sense of who was in authority,” Waisberg said. “God knows what this guy said about Temple sacrifices.” Her second grader’s classes, meanwhile, were regularly interrupted to prepare for an extracurricular ceremony in which each child received a text of the Torah, girls got chocolate coins, and boys got yarmulkes. “They gave the children a paper with the word ‘Torah’ smeared with honey and invited them to lick it,” to indicate Torah study as sweet. She said that she doesn’t mind teaching children about traditions, but this was a custom from cheder—the Eastern European rabbinic schoolhouse from the Middle Ages—and, she said, “It was not presented as a history lesson.”

      Waisberg’s older children had subtler experiences. “A fourth-grade class had an online lesson, ostensibly about biological categorization, but also dividing animals into shratzim and non-shratzim, kosher and non-kosher creepy-crawly things,” she said. “Introductory chemistry classes taught that molecules will bond, or not, the way grooms bond with brides, but not with other men.” Math classes taught Gematria, in which numerical values are assigned to the letters in Hebrew words and calculated to imply mystical coincidences with significant dates, such as Jewish holidays. “This is kind of cute if you do it once, like astrology,” Waisberg said. “But when you repeat Gematria every year, you have to wonder why.” Historical timelines advanced “identity with the land,” starting with the creation, then the flood, then exodus—eventually getting to the Holocaust. But “no kibbutzim, no Haskalah”—the Jewish enlightenment of the nineteenth century, out of which Zionism emerged—were mentioned. The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin was taught not as the act of a national-Orthodox fanatic but as just another sad example of “Jews fighting with each other over disagreements about God’s will.” . . .


    • RE: "For Judaism to actually survive this horror and become a mere religion or societal tradition within modern constructs of ‘nations’, the myth of the ‘Jewish nation’ must be deconstructed." ~ Ofir

      SEE: Another Theocracy in the Heart of the Muslim World | by Uri Avnery | | June 20, 2011

      (EXCERPTS) I am fed up with all this nonsense about recognizing Israel as the “Jewish state.” . . .

      . . . The most widely used is just “Jewish state.” But that is not enough for Netanyahu and Co., who speak about “the nation-state of the Jewish people,” which has a nice 19th-century ring. The “state of the Jewish people” is also quite popular.

      The one thing that all these brand -names have in common is that they are perfectly imprecise. What does “Jewish” mean? A nationality, a religion, a tribe? Who are the “Jewish people”? Or, even more vague, the “Jewish nation”? Does this include the congressmen who enact the laws of the United States? Or the cohorts of Jews who are in charge of U.S. Middle East policy? Which country does the Jewish ambassador of the UK in Tel Aviv represent? . . .

      . . . Herzl himself did not dream of a state that belongs to all the Jews in the world. Quite the contrary—his vision was that all real Jews would go to the Judenstaat (whether in Argentina or Palestine, he had not yet decided). They—and only they—would thenceforth remain “Jews.” All the others would become assimilated in their host nations and cease altogether to be Jews.

      Far, far indeed from the notion of a “nation-state of the Jewish people” as envisioned by many of today’s Zionists, including those millions who do not dream of immigrating to Israel. . .

      . . . We have an ongoing battle about this in Israel. Some of us want Israel to be an Israeli state, belonging to the Israeli people, indeed a “state of all its citizens.” Some want to impose on us the religious law supposedly fixed by God for all times on Mount Sinai some 3,200 years ago and abolish all contrary laws of the democratically elected Knesset. Many don’t want any change at all. . .


  • George Washington University divestment vote cancelled due to safety concerns following threatening anti-BDS posters
  • Influential rabbi teaches would-be Israeli soldiers: Genocide is a mitzvah
    • RE: "the Palestinians are 'Amaleks' that God commanded the Jews to exterminate." ~ me ( from above)

      PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN: the Palestinians are 'Amalekites' (the undying enemy of the Jews) that God commanded the Jews to exterminate.

      THUS: In essence, through the use of the Mitzvah/Holy War “dog whistle”, Netanyahu is signaling both the IDF and his racist, far-right (partially settler) base that the Palestinians are 'Amalekites' (the undying enemy of the Jews) that God commanded them to exterminate.

    • P.P.S. ALSO SEE: The Wrong Side of History | by Uri Avnery | | March 8, 2011

      (EXCERPTS) . . . Israel is dominated by the settlers, who resemble in spirit the Crusaders of the 12th century.
      Fundamentalist religious parties, not much different from their Iranian counterparts, play a major role in our state.
      The political and economic elite is steeped in corruption. Our democracy, in which we took so much pride, is in mortal danger.

      Some people argue that all this is happening because “Netanyahu has no policy”. Nonsense. He has a clear policy: to maintain Israel as a garrison state, to enlarge the settlements, to prevent the foundation of a real Palestinian state, and to go on without peace, in a state of eternal conflict.

      Just now it was been leaked that Netanyahu is going to give a historic speech - another one – very soon. Not in the Knesset, whose importance is approaching nil, but in the really important forum: AIPAC, the Jewish lobby in Washington. . .


    • P.S. In essence, through the use of the Mitzvah/Holy War "dog whistle", Netanyahu is signaling both the IDF and his racist, far-right (partially settler) base that the Palestinians are "Amaleks" that God commanded the Jews to exterminate.

    • RE: Kings are permitted to go on reshut wars if they so please, but such wars are handled under relatively humane laws. Mitzvah laws are a different concept entirely: they are holy wars, the enemy is considered to be the enemy of God, and, as Wallas says, “I am beholden to nothing.” The model is the extermination wars of the biblical Joshua. Most Halacha scholars are divided about what constitutes a mitzvah war, but they agree that wars to reconquer the Holy Land fit the bill – after all, they are modeled on Joshua’s. ~ Gurvitz


      [EXCERPT] Days after an Israeli human rights group urged soldiers to refuse orders to shoot at Palestinian protesters in the Gaza Strip along the fence that divides the occupied territory from Israel, a group of left-wing Israeli activists approached soldiers stationed along the border and called them “terrorist.”

      Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday responded by defending the military for their “holy work,” and accused the activists of “outrageous absurdity.” . . .

      . . . Netanyahu added that Israeli soldiers “need to do their holy work,” and referred to the Palestinian protesters as “terrorist.”

      Hours later Netanyahu’s spokes person Ofir Gendelman commented on social media that Israeli soldiers are carrying out a “holy mission of defending Israel.” . . .

      SOURCE -

    • RE: "The main targets of the mechina rabbis have been gays and women; the utterances were so inflammatory, as the rabbis exposed their misogyny and homophobia . . ." ~ Gurvitz

      MY COMMENT: But . . . but . . . but, I thought that since Israel was a "liberal democracy", it was supposed to be a real haven for gays and women!

  • 'Mondoweiss Mondays' has really taken off — and check out the new match to multiply your impact
  • Netanyahu hat-tips settler who called for extermination camps
    • RE: "@JLewisDickerson, I clicked on the link you posted here under the title ‘The Punishment for reading a Bible in Saudi Arabia’, & discovered you sent me to a hate site. Phony photos, phony reports, & vile comments. When I checked out the ‘About us’ section, I read that the site’s stated mission includes the following —" ~ Leahj

      MY REPLY: Thanks for pointing that out. I used a google image search , so I did not get a good feel for the actual site. I 'll try to be more careful in the future.

    • P.P.P.S.


      MY COMMENT: If Jeffrey Goldberg is a journalist (as opposed to a PR agent) then I am the idiomatic/proverbial "monkey's uncle" (not intending at all any disrespect for monkeys).

      I'm beginning to think that in addition to believing in the need to exterminate the Amaleks, Jeffrey Goldberg might also believe in animal sacrifice* and crucifixion**!

      * Temple Mount activists 'practice' sacrifice in East Jerusalem -

      ** The Punishment for reading a Bible in Saudi Arabia -

      ** Saudi Arabia: Execution of five Yemeni men & public display of their bodies -


      World War II casualties
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ~

      [EXCERPT] World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history in absolute terms of total casualties. Over 60 million people were killed, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion).[1] Statistics of military wounded are available for the major combatants. The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total deaths ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.[2] The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine. Military deaths from all causes totalled 21 to 25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war. Statistics on the number of military wounded are included whenever available.

      Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet WW2 fatalities.[3] According to Russian government figures, USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million[4][5] including 8.5 million due to war related famine and disease.[6] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[7] Historian Rüdiger Overmans of the Military History Research Office (Germany) published a study in 2000 that estimated the German military dead and missing at 5.3 million, including 900,000 men conscripted from outside of Germany's 1937 borders, in Austria, and in east-central Europe.[8][9][10] The People's Republic of China puts its war dead at 20 million,[11] while the Japanese government puts its casualties due to the war at 3.1 million.[12] . . .

      Saudi Crown Prince: Iran's Supreme Leader 'Makes Hitler Look Good'
      In a wide-ranging conversation, Prince Mohammed bin Salman also recognized the Jewish people’s right to “their own land.”
      BY JEFFREY GOLDBERG | The Atlantic | April 2, 2018

      [EXCERPTS] . . . Prince Mohammed (who is known widely by his initials, MbS) seemed eager to download his heterodoxical, contentious views on a number of subjects—on women’s rights (he appears doubtful about the laws that force Saudi women to travel with male relatives); on Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, who is, in the prince’s mind, worse than Hitler; and on Israel. He told me he recognizes the right of the Jewish people to have a nation-state of their own next to a Palestinian state; no Arab leader has ever acknowledged such a right. . .

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      . . . The prince, in my conversation with him, divided the Middle East into two warring camps: what he called the “triangle of evil,” consisting of Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Sunni terror groups; and an alliance of self-described moderate states that includes Jordan, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Oman. About his bête noir, the Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Prince Mohammed said, “I believe the Iranian supreme leader makes Hitler look good. Hitler didn’t do what the supreme leader is trying to do. Hitler tried to conquer Europe. … The supreme leader is trying to conquer the world.”

      Another key—though sub rosa—member of Prince Mohammed’s alliance is Israel, a country about which Prince Mohammed did not have a bad word to say. In fact, when I asked him whether he believed the Jewish people have a right to a nation-state in at least part of their ancestral homeland, he said: “I believe that each people, anywhere, has a right to live in their peaceful nation. I believe the Palestinians and the Israelis have the right to have their own land.” . . .

      ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂ ✂

      ♦ Goldberg: You think you’ll ever be friendly again with Qatar?

      ● MbS: It has to happen, one day. We hope they learn fast. It depends on them.

      Goldberg: You speak extraordinarily bluntly about Iran and its ideology. You’ve even equated the supreme leader to Hitler. What makes him a Hitler? Hitler is the worst thing you can be.

      MbS: I believe that the Iranian supreme leader makes Hitler look good.


      ● MbS: Hitler didn’t do what the supreme leader is trying to do. Hitler tried to conquer Europe. This is bad.

      ♦ Goldberg: Yes, very bad.

      ● MbS: But the supreme leader is trying to conquer the world. He believes he owns the world. They are both evil guys. He is the Hitler of the Middle East. In the 1920s and 1930s, no one saw Hitler as a danger. Only a few people. Until it happened. We don’t want to see what happened in Europe happen in the Middle East. We want to stop this through political moves, economic moves, intelligence moves. We want to avoid war.

      ♦ Goldberg: Is the problem in your mind religious?

      ● MbS: As I told you, the Shiites are living normally in Saudi Arabia. We have no problem with the Shiites. We have a problem with the ideology of the Iranian regime. Our problem is, we don’t think they have the right to interfere with our affairs.


      ♦ Goldberg: I’m curious about Donald Trump and Barack Obama on this issue. It seems you think Donald Trump has a better understanding of this issue than Barack Obama.

      ● MbS: Both of them understand it. I believe that President Obama had different tactics. President Obama believed that if he gave Iran opportunities to open up, it would change. But with a regime based on this ideology, it will not open up soon. . .


    • RE: One wonders whether they will leave the concentrating of ‘Amalekites in death camps to others, or will they rule that the wiping out of ‘Amalek is no longer relevant. Time will tell.” ~ nutty, far-right settler Avihai Boaron

      "When Netanyahu described Iran as Amalek — read, Hitler– NYT passed this along as rational thinking" | By Philip Weiss on May 1, 2012

      {EXCERPT] Yesterday I pointed out that Israel advocacy is so embedded in American public life, and the concern for Israel’s survival is taken as such a solemn charge by the media, that it requires Israeli establishment critics speaking out for our media to cotton to the idea that Netanyahu is feverish and irresponsible. Specifically, it has required former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert saying that he doesn’t trust Netanyahu on the Iran issue, and former Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin describing Netanyahu and Defense Minister Barak as “messianic” to give American media permission to openly question Netanyahu’s judgment.

      Well, American critics have been telling us this about Netanyahu for years; and they have been ignored, while the hysterics have been privileged, c.f. this cover story in the Times in January. Even President Obama’s warning about “loose talk” of war has had less effect than the Israelis speaking out.

      Here is another landmark in the American media’s passive acceptance of Israeli messianism: a huge 2009 op-ed in the New York Times, written by Jeffrey Goldberg, rationalizing Netanyahu’s extremism as a reasonable response to the next Hitler arising in Iran.

      At the time, Dan Luban at Lobelog called Goldberg out as a zealot– but who paid attention? Luban spoke out at a small news service, while Goldberg had the pages of the New York Times to promote hysteria about the next holocaust.

      First, Goldberg excerpts (Hitler boldface is mine):

      I recently asked one of his advisers to gauge for me the depth of Mr. Netanyahu’s anxiety about Iran. His answer: “Think Amalek.”

      “Amalek,” in essence, is Hebrew for “existential threat.” Tradition holds that the Amalekites are the undying enemy of the Jews. They appear in Deuteronomy, attacking the rear columns of the Israelites on their escape from Egypt. The rabbis teach that successive generations of Jews have been forced to confront the Amalekites: Nebuchadnezzar, the Crusaders, Torquemada, Hitler and Stalin are all manifestations of Amalek’s malevolent spirit.

      If Iran’s nuclear program is, metaphorically, Amalek’s arsenal, then an Israeli prime minister is bound by Jewish history to seek its destruction, regardless of what his allies think…

      there should be little doubt that, by the end of this year [2009], if no progress is made, Mr. Netanyahu will seriously consider attacking Iran. His military advisers tell me they believe an attack, even an attack conducted without American help or permission, would have a reasonably high chance of setting back the Iranian program for two to five years.

      …When I visited recently with [Israeli President Shimon] Peres, who is now Israel’s president, I asked him if there is a chance that his country has over-learned the lessons of Jewish history. He answered, “If we have to make a mistake of overreaction or underreaction, I think I prefer the overreaction.”

      Goldberg brags a lot about his access there. But Netanyahu didn’t attack in 2009. So much for that alarmism. And Netanyahu doesn’t even represent the Israeli establishment. Diskin, and Olmert, and now Livni prove that.

      Here is Dan Luban deconstructing Goldberg in 2009 as someone trying to make nuclear war acceptable . . .


  • Thousands demonstrate at Gaza border in 'Burn Israeli Flags' Friday
    • RE: "Moving to the southern city of Rafah, 35 kilometer south of Gaza, some demonstrators set alight posters of US President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who they believe is cooperating with Israel". ~ Ahmad Kabariti

      MY COMMENT: MbS ("Defender of the Faith") cooperating with Israel?!?!
      Those Palestinians and their "conspiracy theories"!
      Their "conspiracy theories"!
      Their "conspiracy theories"!
      Their "conspiracy theories"!
      Shame on them!

      P.S. MBS's cooperation with Israel is pretty much established fact!

  • Israel's genocidal explanations for killing unarmed protesters are only isolating it further
    • RE: Israeli leaders have been making downright genocidal claims against Palestinians, and the rhetoric finally seems to be backfiring. The government’s line on “defending itself from terrorists” is not being swallowed by the world as easily as it used to be. ~ Ofir

      MY COMMENT: Netanyahu, Lieberman, et al. only care about currying favor with their racist, right-wing supporters in Israel and the West Bank settlements. They don't give a measly whit what the "libtards" in Europe and America think about their claims, because they have the likes of Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, John "The 'Stache" Bolton, Jason Greenblatt, David "The Settlers' Advocate" Friedman, "Pastor" John Hagee, Sheldon Adelson, MbS, etc. in their very large cargo pockets!

      Wit vs. whit -

  • Sen. Warren and 5 congresspeople finally criticize Israel's killings; pressure mounts on Feinstein
    • RE: Media reports suggest that on Friday, Israeli soldiers will once again be ordered by high command – in contravention of international law – to engage in sniper fire on Gaza residents who come within 300 meters of the border fence or engage in other non-life-threatening actions. ~ Weiss

      A SLIGHTLY TIPSY MARTHA MITCHELL SEZ: Y'all know what? This Gaza thing reminds me of the fair back in Arkansas when I was a little girl and my daddy would go to these booths on the midway where he shot at plates and things to win me beaucoup humongous stuffed animals.
      I loved my daddy!
      I did, y'all.
      Don't y’all ask me about my husband, John.

  • Dershowitz's game
  • Global outrage mounts over Israeli killing of Yaser Murtaja, from 'NYT' to Federation of Arab Journalists
    • RE: "The real problem for Israel is the open arrogance. They are barely even trying to deny their brutality. They give the NYT no cover. If they had some halfway sane liberal Zionist who made the right noises about peace and wasn’t so blatantly pro settlement they wouldn’t have any problems with the NYT." ~ Weiss

      MY COMMENT: Why should the Likudnik Government of Israel care what the editors of the liberal, elite, anti-Semitic, 'fake news'- purveying New York Times think when it has the likes of Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, John "The 'Stache" Bolton, Jason Greenblatt, David "The Settlers' Advocate" Friedman, Sheldon Adelson, MbS, etc. in its very large cargo pocket(s)!

      * VIOLENT FEMMES - Kiss Off ~~

  • Netanyahu says Israeli snipers are doing ‘holy work’
    • RE: Netanyahu added that Israeli soldiers “need to do their holy work,” ~ Deger

      ELABORATION: Yes, boys and girls of the IDF, do your "holy work"! Bring on the Red Rain! Bring it on like a monsoon . . . Let it wash all over you. like the mark of Cain!

      ■ Curse and mark of Cain -

    • P.S. And, do it for "Christian" Zionists John Hagee, Pat "Blood Diamonds" Robertson, "Dr." Mike Evans and their ilk!

    • RE Netanyahu added that Israeli soldiers “need to do their holy work,” ~ Deger

      MY COMMENT: Yes, boys and girls of the IDF, do your "holy work"! Bring on the Red Rain! Bring it on like a monsoon!
      International law be damned!
      Bring on the Red Rain in a torrent!
      Literally, bathe in it.
      Let it wash all over you!
      Do it for Sheldon and Miriam (Netanyahu's foremost American benefactors)!

    • RE: Netanyahu added that Israeli soldiers “need to do their holy work,” ~ Deger

      MY COMMENT: Yes, boys and girls of the IDF, shock the monkeys (i.e., "sons of whores", "little snakes", etc.).
      Shock 'em good!
      Shock 'em real, real good!
      Do it for Sheldon Adelson (Netanyahu's American benefactor)!

      Fox the fox
      Rat on the rat
      You can ape the ape
      I know about that
      There is one thing you must be sure of
      I can't take any more
      Darling, don't you monkey with the monkey
      Monkey, monkey, monkey
      Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey
      Shock the monkey

      Monkey, Wheels keep turning
      Monkey, Something's burning
      Monkey, Don't like it but I guess I'm learning
      Shock! Shock! Shock! - watch the monkey get hurt, monkey
      Shock! Shock! Shock! - watch the monkey get hurt, monkey

  • Neocons and liberal interventionists are back in the saddle again -- though 'nobody wants a big war'!
    • RE: "Another part of the runup to war with Iran is the mainstream whitewash and celebration of Iranian foe Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia, now touring France after his successful tour of US media." ~ Weiss


      P.S. Oh drat! Now I'll never have my very own French chateau, über-yacht and fake da Vinci! What a pi**er!
      Well, I guess there's always the Queen Miri!


      Commonwealth Games
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ~

      The Commonwealth Games is an international multi-sport event involving athletes from the Commonwealth of Nations. The event was first held in 1930, and has taken place every four years since then (with the exception of 1942 and 1946, which were cancelled due to World War II).[1] The most recent Commonwealth Games are being held on the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia from 4 - 15 April 2018. The Commonwealth Games were known as the British Empire Games from 1930–1950, the British Empire and Commonwealth Games from 1954–1966, and British Commonwealth Games from 1970–1974. . .

      📷 The 'lily-white' British Empire and Commonwealth Games

    • P.P.S.
      Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers, War Without Tears

    • P.S.
      RE: The US's use of biological warfare in North Korea (Hypocrisy, thy name is America!)
      "Wormwood" ~ In 1953, Army scientist Frank Olson takes a fatal plunge from a hotel window. In 1975, a bombshell report ties his death to a top-secret experiment.
      Stars: Peter Sarsgaard, Molly Parker, Christian Camargo . . .

    • "So much larger than life!", e.g., "The Image, A Guide to Psuedo-Events in America", by Daniel J. Boorstin -

      Peter Gabriel - Big Time

      . . . My parties have all the big names and I greet them with the widest smile
      Tell them how my life is one big adventure
      and always they're amazed when I show them 'round my house to my bed
      I had it made like a mountain range with a snow white pillow for my big fat head
      And my heaven will be a big heaven, and I will walk through the front door

      Big Time, I'm on my way I'm making it, big time, Huh!
      Big time, I've got to make it show yeah, big time
      Big time, so much larger than life
      Big time, I'm gonna watch it growing, big time
      Big time, my car is getting bigger Big time, my house is getting bigger
      Big time, my eyes are getting bigger
      and my mouth
      Big time, my belly's getting bigger
      Big time, and my bank account . . .

    • RE: President Trump warned Russia and Syria that missiles would be coming “nice and new and smart.”

      PRESIDENT TRUMP: Show those Ruskies that you and Bolton are not girly men!
      Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em big time!
      After all, like you famously said, what's the point in having nukes if they aren't used?!?!

    • P.S. ENHANCED VERSION: What an unmitigated FAT ASS our president is!

  • The Gaza protests are challenging every facet of Israel's dispossession of the Palestinian people
    • RE: The Israeli army admission that the video is authentic, and that the soldiers acted “appropriately”, shows beyond doubt that this policy of shooting unarmed protesters has existed long before the current wave of protests under the Great March of Return. But how long? ~ Ofir

      MY GUESS: Since Time Immemorial?

      SEE: "The Dogs of War: The Next Intifada", By Uri Avnery, Counterpunch, 9/03/11

      (EXCERPT) . . . The second (“al-Aqsa”) intifada started after the breakdown of the 2000 Camp David conference and Ariel Sharon’s deliberately provocative “visit” to the Temple Mount. The Palestinians held non-violent mass demonstrations. The army responded with selective killings. A sharpshooter accompanied by an officer would take position in the path of the protest, and the officer would point out selected targets – protesters who looked like “ringleaders”. They were killed.

      This was highly effective. Soon the non-violent demonstrations ceased and were replaced by very violent (“terrorist”) actions. With those the army was back on familiar ground.

      All in all, during the second intifada 4546 Palestinians were killed, of whom 882 were children, as against 1044 Israelis, 716 of them civilians, including 124 children...


    • RE: "Palestinian lives are basically confirmed to be worth absolutely zero for Israel, and that apparently needs to be celebrated. And it will be celebrated on a grand scale this year, as Israel celebrates its 70th year, having brought Palestine to near total erasure, and exposed itself as the monster that it was destined to be." ~ Ofir

      PUT ANOTHER WAY: Palestinian lives are basically fodder for Israel's narcissistic rage, and that apparently needs to be celebrated (since the alternative would be Israel's opting for its Samson Option). And it will be celebrated on a grand scale this year, as Israel celebrates its 70th year, having brought Palestine to near total erasure, and exposed itself as the raging narcissistic monster* that it was destined to be.

      * SEE:

  • The search for 'balance' in the Gaza shootings
  • Israeli sniper films shooting of unarmed Palestinian -- and celebrates
    • RE: The sniper continues: “Son of a whore!”
      Sniper: “Take that, you sons of whores!”

      MY COMMENT: One of the Israelis favorite expressions for referring to Palestinians (Palestinian males, at least)!

      ■ The Hasbara Buster (August 1, 2017): Israeli Jews massively chant “the Jews are lovely, the Arabs are the sons of whores,” [Narcissistic, much? ~ J.L.D.] or, more crudely, “death to Arabs,” and everyone understands they mean the Palestinian Arabs . . . ~

      P.S. ALSO SEE (note Netanyahu urging "balance"):
      Hebron soldier in hot water over 2014 Facebook post against PM
      • Likud fumes after offensive social media statuses surface; Netanyahu's FB page manager calls on Azaria to apologize
      By Times of Israel staff
      30 July 2016, 9:27 pm

      The Israeli soldier currently facing manslaughter charges for the March killing of an incapacitated Palestinian attacker in Hebron has landed in even more hot water after a series of social media posts he and his family published two years ago against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu surfaced on Saturday.

      According to Channel 2, the offensive Facebook posts started circulating on internal Likud forums Saturday afternoon, raising the ire of party members and backers within the party of Netanyahu.

      A July 15, 2014 Facebook post by Sgt. Elor Azaria criticized Netanyahu for considering a ceasefire with Hamas and urged him to hit the terror group even harder. “Kill them all,” Azaria wrote, later adding “[Rabbi Meir] Kahane was right,” a slogan often used by those in the extreme right in reference to the virulently anti-Arab rabbi whose Kach party was banned from the Knesset over incitement to racial hatred. His ideology still inspires many Jewish extremists.

      In response to the post, Azaria’s father Charlie wrote “Kahane the sage was right; the next generation should rise,” while his mother added “Death to those who harm Jews. Enough with the humanism; if needed, kill women and children.”

      The post and responses were published a week after Operation Protective Edge began on July 8 that year.

      In April this year, almost a month after the March 24 incident in which Arazia was filmed shooting Abdel Fattah al-Sharif in the head — nearly 15 minutes after Sharif was shot and wounded by soldiers he had tried to stab — Netanyahu called Azaria’s father, later urging “balance” in the contentious legal proceedings against him. . . .


  • Israeli Defense Minister justifies killing of Palestinian journalists
  • 1948 and the Anglo–Saxim: on Western involvement in expulsion of the Palestinians
    • RE: "Members of two right-wing Zionist militias, the Irgun and the Stern Gang, entered the village around dawn. They proceeded to carry out a massacre which they themselves then helped to publicize. Panic, they apparently judged, would be a useful force in clearing Palestine of its population." ~ Dan Freeman-Maloy

      MY COMMENT: Much like Sharon may have thought a good massacre like Sabra and Shatila would cause the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon to panic and flee to Syria (later to be forced into Jordan).

      ■ "The War of Lies", by Uri Avnery | | September 06, 2012 |

      [EXCERPTS] Thirty Years ago this week, the Israeli army crossed into Lebanon and started the most stupid war in Israel’s history. It lasted for 18 years. About 1500 Israeli soldiers and untold numbers of Lebanese and Palestinians were killed.
      Almost all wars are based on lies. Lies are considered legitimate instruments of war. Lebanon War I (as it was later called) was a glorious example.
      From beginning to end (if it has ended yet) it was a war of deceit and deception, falsehoods and fabrications.
      THE LIES started with the official name: “Operation Peace in Galilee”.
      If one asks Israelis now, 99.99% of them will say with all sincerity: “We had no choice. They launched katyushas at the Galilee from Lebanon every day. We had to stop them.” TV anchormen and anchorwomen, as well as former cabinet ministers have been repeating this throughout the week. Quite sincerely. Even people who were already adults at the time.
      The simple fact is that for 11 months before the war, not a single shot was fired across the Israeli-Lebanese border. A cease-fire was in force and the Palestinians on the other side of the border kept it scrupulously. To everybody’s surprise, Yasser Arafat succeeded in imposing it on all the radical Palestinian factions, too.
      At the end of May, Defense Minister Ariel Sharon met with Secretary of State Alexander Haig in Washington DC. He asked for American agreement to invade Lebanon. Haig said that the US could not allow it, unless there were a clear and internationally recognized provocation.
      And lo and behold, the provocation was provided at once. Abu Nidal, the anti-Arafat and anti-PLO master terrorist, sent his own cousin to assassinate the Israeli ambassador in London, who was grievously wounded.
      In retaliation, Israel bombed Beirut and the Palestinians fired back, as expected. The Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, allowed Sharon to invade Lebanese territory up to 40 km, “to put the Galilee settlements out of reach of the katyushas.”
      When one of the intelligence chiefs told Begin at the cabinet meeting that Abu Nidal’s organization was not a member of the PLO, Begin famously answered: “They are all PLO”.
      General Matti Peled, my political associate at the time, firmly believed that Abu Nidal had acted as an agent of Sharon. So do all the Palestinians I know.
      The lie “they shot at us every day” has taken such a hold on the public mind that it is nowadays useless to dispute it. It is an illuminating example of how a myth can take possession of the public mind, including even of people who had seen with their own eyes that the opposite was true.
      NINE MONTHS before the war, Sharon told me about his plan for a New Middle East. . .
      . . . His design for the region, as told me then (and which I published nine months before the war), was:

      • To attack Lebanon and install a Christian dictator who would serve Israel,
      • Drive the Syrians out of Lebanon,
      Drive the Palestinians out of Lebanon into Syria, from where they would then be pushed by the Syrians into Jordan.
      • Get the Palestinians to carry out a revolution in Jordan, kick out King Hussein and turn Jordan into a Palestinian state,
      • Set up a functional arrangement under which the Palestinian state (in Jordan) would share power in the West Bank with Israel. Being a single-minded operator, Sharon convinced Begin to start the war, telling him that the sole aim was to push the PLO 40 km back. . .


  • Jews must ditch Zionism, now
    • RE: As for Zionism let’s ditch it and move on. It’s time to place it in a glass cabinet and put it in a museum in a room marked ‘Dead Ends & False Messiahs’. ~ Robert Cohen

      MY COMMENT: Yes indeed, put that glass curio cabinet right next to the Confederate Stars and Bars !

      Nikki Haley talks about the Confederate flag at a South Carolina debate

    • RE: "If successive Israeli leaders are to believed, Israel is permanently under genocidal threat." ~ Robert Cohen

      Netanyahu (11/13/2006): "It's 1938 and Iran is Germany; Ahmadinejad is preparing another Holocaust"

  • Jews and trauma
  • Israeli snipers shoot 6 Palestinian journalists, killing one--making international headlines
  • Seven things you need to know about Israel's latest attack on Gaza
  • Israel just lost American Jews
    • RE: 'The American Jewish love affair with Israel is over. We are going to see more and more outright signs of the breakup" ~ Weissglossian optimism

      COMMENT: I will only believe it when there is no longer any possibility of "makeup-sex"!

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