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An Israeli history teacher,long-time activist on the Israeli Left.

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  • Israel would use nuclear weapons to keep refugees from returning -- Noam Chomsky
    • I'll leave it to the intelligent readers of Mondoweiss to determine whether the segment posted by Yonifalic contains the content he claims it to.

    • Here's an English translation of the segment that Yonifalic copied. Does it contain what he says it does?

      Rav Judah stated in the name of Shmuel: Just as it is forbidden to leave the Land of Israel for Babylon so it is forbidden to leave Babylon for other countries. Rabbah and R. Joseph both said: Even from Pumbeditha to Be Kubi.
      A man once moved from Pumbedita to Be Kubi and R. Joseph placed him under the ban.
      A man once moved from Pumbedita to Astunia and he died. Abaye said: “If this young scholar wanted, he would still be alive.”

      Rav Judah said: Whoever lives in Babylonia it is as if he lived in the Land of Israel; for it is said, “Ho, Zion, escape, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon” (Zechariah 2:11).
      Abaye stated: We have a tradition that Babylonia will not witness the birth pangs of the Messiah. He [also] explained it to refer to Huzal in Benjamin and they called it the Horn of Salvation.
      http://learn.conservativeyeshiva.org/ketubot-daf-kuf-yod-alef-part-2/

    • amigo,
      Don't worry, I'm still firmly on the Left. I haven't changed my fundamental positions, though I may now realize better -thanks in part to MW- what those of committed to Israeli-Palestinian peace are up against.
      Once again, I don't live in an "illegal squat". I live in a perfectly legal, normal, apartment, still paying the mortgage. You're invited to visit, see the "squat".
      If you're also motivated by hatred -well,what can I say, that's unfortunate.
      As to why I keep returning to Yonifalic, you may have a point. Maybe I shouldn't bother.

    • Hate is a recurring theme in Yonifalic's comments.
      One example: "There are not words for me to describe how much I hate Rabbinic Judaism as a religion even if I find it interesting as an historical phenomenon." Does anyone really think that he hates Judaism but doesn't hate the Jews?
      And blaming the Jews themselves for being persecuted and expelled and for the Holocaust, like any good Anti-Semite...
      Accusing me of libel, after writing that I'm "like Hitler".

      I must say that by now I find this whole topic , discussing Yonifalic, what he means and why he's tolerated on Mondoweiss, extremely distasteful.

    • Keith,
      I don't have to "claim" that Yonifalic is a Jew-hater, he's said so himself numerous times. Search his archive for "hate".
      And while you're at it, see how he'll always blame the Jews . Not only for the expulsion and for the Farhud. He blames them for the Holocaust, calls it "blowback". Enough said.

    • Leave it to the Jew-hater and self-confessed war criminal Yonifalic to once again blame the victims: The Jews are to blame for their expulsion from England , for the Farhud in Iraq...you name it...

  • Bill making it a federal crime to support BDS sends shockwaves through progressive community
    • Yonifalic is now citing the comments policy because I called him a meshumad. I thought he was proud to be one.

      Imagine a commenter writing that Islam is "silly and repugnant". Or Christianity, or any other faith. Imagine a commenter explaining why he hates Islam, or any other faith. But Yonifalic is free to do so regarding Judaism.

    • russgreen,
      Yonifalic has repeatedly stated his hatred of Judaism, of Israel and of his own family. Check his archive and search for "hate".
      In his comment on this thread he wrote that " the “antisemitic” stereotype is true" . If he's not an Anti-Semite , I don't know who is.

    • Mondoweiss comments policy specifically prohibits Anti-Semitism, and other forms of racism.
      Yet Yonifalic, the Anti-Semitic meshumad and self-confessed war criminal, is tolerated by the moderators.
      What's the point of having a "comments policy"?

  • After mob attacks alternative Memorial Day ceremonies, Israeli education minister criticizes ceremonies not mob
    • The Anti-Semitic meshumad and self-confessed war criminal Yonifalic is allowed to explain why he hates Judaism, in violation of Mondoweiss comments policy. I wonder if a commenter would be allowed to explain hatred for Islam or Christianity.

      And the passage from the Haggadah is not only recited, it's sung:

  • I am not a jew
    • As to Yonifalic's alleged "eidetic memory":

      From the Brittanica:
      "Eidetic image, an unusually vivid subjective visual phenomenon. An eidetic person claims to continue to “see” an object that is no longer objectively present. Eidetic persons behave as if they are actually seeing an item, either with their eyes closed or while looking at some surface that serves as a convenient background for the image. Furthermore, eidetic persons describe the image as if it is still present and not as if they are recalling a past event. The incidence of eidetic imagery is very low in children (2–10 percent) and almost nonexistent in adults."

      Also see:
      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-such-a-thing-as/

    • Absolutely, Yonifalic, I suggest that you surrender yourself to Palestinian authorities. Preferably Hamas.

    • Yonifalic , the Anti-Semitic meshumad, is also a self-confessed murderer. Why not encourage him to surrender himself to the appropriate authorities to stand trial for his crimes?

  • Hell just froze over: the New York Times runs an article saying Zionism is racist
    • amigo,
      If you think yonifalic is not an Anti-semite, and is trying to "save " Israel, you probably haven't been reading his comments.
      And your comment about my not "donning olive-greens' is a bit unfair, since I'm now past the age of military service. When I was of the right age, I did my service in the IDF.
      No, I'm not an illegal settler. I've been against the settlements from their inception. I've probably participated in more activities and campaigns against the settlements than any other MW commenter. Don't forget that I support the two state solution. the settlement issue is most significant for people with positions like mine.

    • talkback, amigo,

      Not a word of condemnation for Yonifalic,a despicable murderer of innocent Palestinians. Does he get a pass because he's at present a despicable Anti-Semite?

      I response to your deflections: Naftali Bennet is certainly no hero of mine. Way on the other end of the political spectrum. Incidentally, I heard him speak once, and came to the conclusion that the guy is an idiot.
      As to myself, I don't live or "squat" on someone elses property and have never commited a war crime.

    • talkback,
      Yonifalic:" I participated by murdering unarmed Pali men, women, and children during Cast Lead ".
      Yonifalic is therefore a self-confessed war criminal and should be prosecuted.
      Any court of law can take into account his confession and expression of remorse, when it comes to sentencing, but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be put on trial.

    • catalan,
      I also often wonder why I come in for so much verbal abuse and ad hominem attacks here.
      When I respond to Yonifalic's hatefilled and outrageous comments- other commenters jump to his defense and attack me.
      Maybe it's easier for some people to believe all Israelis =evil; all Palestinians= righteous, and they can't deal with the concept of an Israeli Left, an Israeli peace movement. Actually, it seems to me that the term , "peace", is rarely discussed here.

    • YoniFalic wants to expel millions of people , based on ethnic identity and skin color. That's pure racism.
      I recall that he has also confessed to being a murderer of Palestinian civilians. He should turn himself in and stand trial for his crimes.
      As to his issues with his own family - where catalan tries to use empathy - that's for the shrinks. I, personally, don't care.

  • 'Love thy neighbor as thyself' -- Really?
    • Some gems from YoniFalic, the Anti-Semitic meshumad:

      For anyone interested,the quote from Ezekiel chapter 23 , (verse 20, not 30) which is part of an elaborate parable constructed by Ezekiel is:
      " And she lusted for their concubinage, those whose flesh is the flesh of donkeys, and whose issue is the issue of horses."

      According to Yonifalic thhe Vilna Gaon, and Rabbis Moshe Feinstein and J. B. Soloveitchik have "little understanding " or are "clueless". I call that hutzpah.

      "Christianity is a religion far superior to Judaism" -It's weird that YoniFalic uses the image associated with the Rambam, who regarded Christianity as a form of idolatry, and was a fierce defender of Rabbinic Judaism.

      "To use the terms "Jew" or "Jewish" before the 10th century is completely anachronistic and misleading. "
      I wonder what the correct term was, then . The titles of two books by Josephus, writing in the 1st century are: "The Jewish War" and "Antiquities of the Jews".

  • Another Israeli leader says Netanyahu misuses the Holocaust for political gain, but no one in the U.S. can say so
    • yonah, The sewer has overflowed with with YoniFalic's latest Anti-Semitic comment , blaming the Jews for the Holocaust (and in violation of MW comments policy...)

  • 'Anti-Zionism = anti-semitism' is a formal logical fallacy
  • 'We wasted 40 years talking about nothing, doing nothing' -- Pappe demolishes peace process
    • In response to what yonifalic thinks the Palestinian leadership may have been "willing to accept", see here:

      http://www.pij.org/details.php?id=104

    • YoniFalic:
      "Such participation and planning of murder and atrocities is the root cause of the blow back that was directed against Jews and whose most well known example is the Holocaust.

      While the innocent Jewish victims of the Holocaust deserve sympathy, denying Jewish agency in the creation of the circumstances that brought about the Holocaust is a combination of bigotry, denial, and propaganda."

      So, ultimately, the Jews were to blame for the Holocaust. The Holocaust was nothing but "blow back". YoniFalic's bizarre crackpot theories, genocidal intentions and Anti-Semitic propaganda reach a new low. His post is an insult to the survivors and to the memory of the victims.

  • Executed: Dania Ersheid, 17, from Hebron
    • Are the moderators on Mondoweiss asleep?
      YoniFalic calls Judaism "silly and repugnant". Would any such description of any other faith be tolerated here? Not Zionism, not Israel, it's the Jewish thing, after all.

      And then he goes on to "both jon s and Hitler..."

      Really? jon s and Hitler?

      How about "both YoniFalic and Hitler saw Judaism as repugnant..."

  • Jerusalem at a breaking point
    • eljay,
      Starting from the bottom, it would be nice if there was a reply button beneath every comment.
      No, I'm not sure that Yonifalic wants to "remove" all of us, or most of us or some of us. That's why I repeatedly asked him to clarify. It looks like , in any case, we're talking about millions.

    • eljay,
      I never claimed that Yonifalic said "all". I did repeatedly ask him to clarify who are the "invaders " to be "removed", and how.

    • RoHa,
      You asked what I do for peace. I'm not a politician, thank God, and I don't claim to be a leader.
      I've been active on the Israeli Left for many years, and have been active in various organizations. I also do what I can in my professional field of education.
      Allow me a question for you: what do you think about Yonifalic's idea of "removing" the Israeli "invaders"?

    • eljay,
      I think that you should direct your question to Yonifalic, so he could clarify who are the "invaders" who should be removed? All Israeli Jews? Almost all? Some?

    • I also asked yonifalic who are the invaders who should be removed and how he imagines doing it. He hasn't answered, so I'll give it a try:
      First, you'll need to sort out your definitions , who qualifies as "invaders" ? For example: what about a person who can prove that two of his grandparents lived in Palestine before Zionism? In other words: what do you do about "half-invaders" ? And where are the "invaders" supposed to go to? Back to where the "invaders" came from? But what if one grandparent came from Yemen, one from Tunisia, one from Romania and one from a death camp in Poland?
      So you'll need some kind of selection procedure.
      This is how it can be done: the Jews (aka "invaders") can be assembled on the platforms near the railroad tracks. They'll stand in line and approach an officer - a gentleman like YoniFalic or eechinococcus - who will ask a few brief questions and then render a decision, indicating "right" (you can stay) or " left" (you have to go) with a flick of his finger. It may be tedious, but it should work, based on previous experience.

    • Annie,
      YoniFalic has called repeatedly for the "invader population " (=the Jews of Israel ) to be "removed". I wrote that his comments constitute Hate Speech, so he obliged me, and in his very next comment expressed his hatred, even comparing Israel to Nazi Germany.

      Don't misunderstand me: I'm not urging the moderators and editors to censor or ban anyone.
      Comments like that simply illustrate the fact that for the extremists the issue is not the occupation or the settlements, it's israel's very existence, in any borders. It's part of what those of us working for Israeli-Palestinian peace are up against.

    • In my opinion the comments of YoniFalic and echinococcus fall under the definition of Hate Speech.
      Imagine a commenter here advocating the "removal" of the Palestinians.

    • YoniFalic,
      There are over 8 million Israelis, many of them 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation born in Israel.
      Who are the "racist genocidal invaders" that should be "removed""
      Precisely how do you imagine removing them?

      It looks like you're the one with the genocidal agenda.

  • Celebrating Eid al-Adha in Gaza
    • YoniFalic,
      I'll try to respond to both of your obnoxious comments.

      By seeking a peaceful resolution of the conflict, I'm justifying genocide. Really makes sense…

      If you feel that your homeland is Ukraine, fine. Why not go back there? Have a feeling that you may not be too welcome?

      Your assertion that there's no Jewish people reminds me of people like Golda Meir and other extremists who denied that there's a Palestinian people. Millions of Jews consider themselves as part of the Jewish people; millions of Palestinians consider themselves as part of the Palestinian people. That's good enough for me.

      Your comparison to the Nazis is not worthy of a response. They carried out genocide, murdering 6 million of our people (a people who don't exist according to you…). The Palestinian population is growing nicely.

      All nations and religions are based on legends, myths, and historical memories which may or may not be factually true. Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism , too. The British have King Arthur and Robin Hood. Jews are not unique in developing myths.

      Whether or not we are biologically descended from the Jews of ancient times is a fascinating topic, if you're interested in notions of "racial purity" and "bloodlines". In other words: if you're a racist. For the rest of us: who cares? Throughout history people migrated, intermarried, converted and so on. The essential point is a people's memory and identity.

      I used the term "Mizrahi " which is widely used and considered PC. If I had written "Sefardi" you wouldn't be able to claim that it's an artifact of Zionism.

      I’m acquainted with Uri Ram, but I haven't read that book so I won't comment on it.

      The Zionist literature of the 1880's: I would like to know where the literature expresses the desire to steal and murder. (The Zionist movement was founded in 1897, but there were precursors).

      The Jewish religion didn't collapse after the Bar Kokhva revolt. After that revolt the Jews in the land of Israel produced the Mishnah, the Jerusalem Talmud, and more. The Jewish people adapted to the reality of not having a temple and other Jewish centers developed. Pretty admirable and remarkable, considering that "there's no such thing as the Jewish people".

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