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Hebron expresses everything that is truly ugly about Israel and its inhuman practices. A city in lockdown, ruled by a military junta, all for the benefit of a small bunch of appalling racist zealots who attack the local people with impunity, under the watchful eye of their dumb bodyguards in the IDF. Gideon Levy had it right - anybody who goes there, who has an ounce of decency, will be appalled at the casual violence and deeply unpleasant, phobic, pathological nature of the so-called settlers - what kind of person dedicates their and their family's lives to rancid hatred, harrassment of innocent, powerless people, a more bitter hateful bunch of racists you won't find anywhere in the world. And this is Israel's grand project - to protect and encourage them, to make the local people's lives unbearable. A noble enterprise? don't make me laugh.
The pettiness and small-minded of these people is astounding. Completely unable to think the situation through, instead coming out with wildly exaggerated hysteria, smearing and unwillingness to engage in thought or debate. Are they trying to portray Jewishness as being synonymous with closed mind bigotry? Because if not they are doing a very good job of it.
Well, the destruction of cultural archives and symbols of Palestine is in the same spirit as book-burning. As is the relentless harassment of authors and writers who happen to have an independent view of Israel's activities, the public campaigns for people to be sacked, the silencing of opposition, the undercover operations - who needs to burn books when you have all these other ways of destroying people and culture?
Yes, always worth attacking the messenger instead of the message, when you have nothing useful to say on the subject of nuclear armed Israel and its destabilising influence on the ME.
Great commentary, Annie. I couldn't agree more about the warped, perverse admission that it boils down to a desperate need to define the world as 'us and them'. That is the essence of what these people are fighting for - separatism and an explicit sense of superiority (and thus entitlement). How retrograde and damaging to want to inculcate this in your kids, to stand apart from the world, encourage suspicion and hatred of 'them', at the same time as demanding special entitlements and privileges for 'us'. If you flip this round, believing that 'them' are as entitled to such self aggrandising vanity and exceptionalism, then you justify anti-semitism. In other words, anti-semitism is no different to these Jewish attitudes to the 'other', ie non Jews. And thus anti-semitism is incubated in such medieval attitudes. It is incompatible with the modern world, a kind of fundamentalism. No wonder they are opposed to universal human rights, and equality of all under the law - their philosophy is that they have superior rights.
I find it abhorrent, oppositional, and a recipe for hatred, war and violence of the kind we see Israel justifying all of the time. No wonder they want to keep it quiet.
American Jews don't actually need Israel. Shocking, eh? They have a choice whether to support it or ignore it, but the notion that they need it, and they must obey the decrees which come out of that benighted country, is, in the contemporary world, ridiculous. I would suggest that if Israel wants loyalty, they earn it through their actions and principles, rather than demanding it, using blackmail, smearing and hysteria, in order to support a rotten, apartheid system which no American would countenance at home.
Yes, that is a fair assumption given Israel's deplorable track record. It is a shame you are apparently unable to comprehend the many articulate arguments in this piece, avoiding as you do the entire thrust of the piece. I don't think the Bedouins need patronising from you either.
A drunk mother? I think we are talking abusive father here. Repressed, obstinate, out of touch and time, sullen, manipulative and violent. To name a few.
Breaking news: Jewish library bans thinking. Great headline you guys. Where are you headed with this policy?
Israel has long used undercover agents and provocateurs to foment violence, and then blame it on the protesters, Palestinians or any other group it wishes to attack. They have the means, the motive and the method. Why should we believe a word of their account, when they have previous form of such infiltration, as well as being proven serial liars?
Anybody who criticises/hates America seeks the slaughter of Americans en masse. The stupidity of Kerstein's hyperinflated rhetoric is stunning (not to mention the implication that the world is so dumb as to go along with it). But the worst aspect of it is people like him want to believe it. They crave such fundamentalist lunacy to be the case. It justifies, in their fevered hysteria, all of the brutal violence, inhuman practices and savage injustice they heap upon innocent people who happen to be born to the 'wrong' parents.
Yes, and those who delegitimise Palestine and Iran seek the slaughter of all Muslims en masse. What a dork.
So what they performed there? Does that negate the power and humanity of this testimony to the Palestinian people, and the negative, obstructive, vindictive attempts by Israel to diminish them?
Israeli primitive, ignorant tactics and stupid provocateurs unmasked again. What a bunch of lowlife wooden headed bigots and racists they show themselves to be. Terrified of a protest and a Palestinian voice being heard to counter their lies and propaganda - such a typical display of their own weakness and their own realisation of it, the result being the only Israeli response to anything is more violence and threats.
I have nothing but admiration for the way that Haneen Zoabi conducts herself in the face of the most appalling abuse and cretinous insults which is her lot, as it is Palestinians in general, She, and her family, are the true heirs of the ancient people who lived in the region, unlike the thieving arrivistes who have concocted a web of deceit, fantasy and violence to cover their excuses for the occupation and dispossession of people like her. She retains a remarkable dignity and self-possession, whilst also being courageous in her forthright, calm and powerful eloquence. I fear for her, given the numerous examples of the boorish, thuggish behaviour of her opponents. I hope her voice is hear loud and clear not only in Israel, but far and wide, as people slowly begin to understand the depths of the horror show that Israel perpetrates.
NB, George Galloway was elected to the UK parliament yesterday. A local spokesman said that his stand against the war, and his commitment to the Palestinian people, were enormous factors in inspiring many young people to vote, who had never done so before. As usual, the establishment politicians are way behind the instincts of ordinary people.
Israel has no regard for the truth. Preservation of the national myth and the propagandising of it takes precedence over everything. A Palestinian killed or injured is nothing to Israel except a useful warning to others - in the meantime smearing anybody who acquaints the world with the truth of Israel's savagery is the way to maintain its pretence at civility. I don't see how anybody can take Israeli statements seriously, other than demonstrations of their contempt of others and the delusional idea of their own credibility. Self-deception is corrosive and unhealthy as the necessity of weaving ever larger webs of lies increases.
They already have shot and killed UN workers, one in Gaza, and the shelter on the border with Lebanon where I think 4 were killed. Followed of course by the usual litany of feeble excuses and lack of serious investigations.
Exactly. Clubs can be thrown out of competitions, fined and docked points (and are). Hilariously, in 2006, Israel joined Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE), a network set up to counter racism in football. The fact that Israeli is not in Europe and does nothing about racism is only another example of its wish to sign up to standards which it has no intention of following, in order to pose as a 'modern' state.
Beitar is well known for being racist, and prides itself on the fact. It refuses to sign Palestinian Israelis. So much for Israeli anti-discrimination laws, which appear to be there for PR, rather than any expectation that they will be used, not for non-Jews anyway:
link to nanyang.academia.edu
No-one complained? Really? Would that be because if a Palestinian files a complaint it is classed as a complaint from nobody, since Israelestine has decreed all non-Jews as non-persons? The football crowd are only expressing what Israeli education and indoctrination has taught them. They can attack Arabs with impunity - since conscription is a feature of their lives, where better to learn this fact than in the glorious IDF/KKK?
Zionism is a 19th Century racist, hostile, separatist ideology and is not fit for the 20th, let alone the 21st Century. It is only because it has been so inculcated in Jewish populations around the world that they find it hard to face up to what it is. Never mind dual loyalty, this is equivalent to subscribing to dual antithetical moral codes at the same time - one separate and racist, the other democratic based on universal human rights. It is becoming clear that it is impossible to square two opposed moral codes with utterly different values, and it is this contradiction which the lobby is determined to suppress - once it is out in the open air, it can't survive any reasonable examination. It will implode with its own internal contradictions.
I notice that you couldn’t come up with an answer for why Palestine should volunteer to commit national suicide, just because the Zionists think they have a right to take over.
So if you think others are doing it, you must do it also?
Your attempt to exploit the tragedy for your own political threadbare reasoning is pretty disgusting.
And on top of that, an EU report details the systematic terrorism of the settlers and Israel's tacit encouragement and acceptance of it:
link to guardian.co.uk
Heh, you want evidence for a doctrine that you don't like, while failing to provide any for your own preferred vacuous interpretations. Please go back to philosophy first grade if you want to invoke Popper and others in your obfuscatory rambling. Your disingenuous, and ludicrous, attempts to give yourself some credibility by hijacking Popper in defence of Israeli violence and apartheid is a diversion, since you are apparently unable to conform to the standards you invent for others. Denial and diversion, two popular pastimes of Israel, while its academics calmly propose delusional and psychotic plans. Only someone truly wrapped in a complete fantasy world can propose that by killing defenceless people who are kept under lock and key Israel's 'standing will be buttressed in the region'. They actually think that they will be respected for such gruesome, barbaric, medieval pogroms. The only comparable perverse thinking is promoted by Al Qaida. Meanwhile you demand absurd levels of 'proof' of the reality witnessed everyday, and documented here copiously, whilst exempting yourself from any such demands. Philosophy - fail. Hubris - pass.
Oh, the irony of the ignorant and narrow-minded. A free pass? Do you have the most miniscule conception of your prejudiced ham-fisted attempts at giving a free ride to the oppressors and attackers of decent people who have the temerity to protest against their incarceration, dispossession and dehumanisation?
+1, kalithea
Oh that makes it alright then what the IDF does on a daily basis. Partners in terror and crimes against children. Sick. Of course the IDF has access to infinitely more resources and ingenious ways of killing, so their score is far higher. And they suffer no punishment or reprisal - if anything they are supported by feeble excusers like you.
That photo is heart wrenching, the pathos is unbearable. It speaks more eloquently than a thousand diatribes against the monsters who do this with no shame or retribution. It should be displayed everywhere, except of course the Israeli smear machine will go into overdrive, such is the heartlessness of their ideology.
What uniquely unpleasant, fascist, narrow-minded hateful bigots these Israelis are. How disgusting to accuse Norwegian students of being 'nazis' when they are clearly helping someone plant their land. If anyone is being 'nazi' in this situation it is obvious who it is. How these fanatics can get away with their violent puritanism is disgracefully only possible with the collusion of the Israeli state and its vigilante terror doctrine practiced by the laughably called IDF. May they rot in hell.
And when Europe does build Palestinian infrastructure, solar panels, schools etc. Israel comes along and destroys them, with their usual lame excuses, because the last thing they will allow is a functioning Palestinian state. They want a cowed, brutalised, impoverished people, herded into ghettoes, relentlessly humiliated and attacked, dependent on their brutalisers for the smallest concessions which can be withdrawn at any time. The sadism is a deliberate fascistic strategy. Europe should grow some and tell them where to get off, and place punitive sanctions on them.
giladg, get lost with your trolling and smearing. Another paid idiotic student in thrall to the propaganda machine?
Giladg, you are pathetic, making feeble and stupid excuses for the murder of an innocent girl by your sadistic armed occupation forces. Shame on you, except that is an unknown emotion in Israel, judging by you and your fellow apologists.
Except you deliberately miss the point of the article. Very 'strait'.
What are you talking about. The Guardian reports what Israel and Egyptian officials say, without corroborating either. It says nothing about the fake statistics which are the subject of this article, the absurd 'ratios'. Clutching at straws. If you think The Guardian is anti-Israel, then heaven help your idea of what constitutes reporting and journalism.
So you can link to propaganda sites and reports with no credibility and post them as if your fantasy version of reality is true. Well done, now go and learn the difference between fact and fiction.
You regurgitate a load of propaganda from an Israeli hasbara site, which has the joke title of 'honest reporting' (!) and expect us to take you seriously? Are you real, or just another paid student pounding his keyboard in abject ignorance and wilful denial of what Israel is doing to defenceless Palestinians? Such chutzpah in defending war crimes only deepens the distrust and disgust of people worldwide. You should be ashamed, except such normal human reactions have been surgically removed by your deep ideological commitment to fake reporting, false accounting, invention of so-called facts and dishonesty at every level.
IF Israel stopped raining bombs on defenceless Gaza, using snipers to kill children, starving them to death and locking them away from the world then maybe there wouldn't be any violence. Simple as that. On the other hand you can keep repeating hollow statements you have learnt from the shameless propagandists and useful fools and liars who populate the Israeli and US media and governments. Israel doesn't act with strength, it acts with unparalleled cruelty and wanton violence, brutality and sadism, locked in its ideology of racial superiority.
Who's going to show it to be 'true'? Oh yeah, the Israelis and their lapdogs in the US media. That'll be irrefutable 'proof' then, the usual strategy of attacking blindly and wantonly first, then constructing absurd, unbelievable, uncorroborated excuses and justifications, whilst smearing anyone doing actual reporting of the events. The feeble propaganda is so transparent, it is worthless.
I very much doubt they thought he was a terrorist, with TV emblazoned on his flak jacket. Israel has plenty form in targetting journalists, particularly those who report the truth as they witness it. Anybody is fair game for Israeli snipers for the simple reason that they are immune to any punishment, and will always find a justification/feeble excuse for their actions. Tom Hurndall, James Miller, Rachel Corrie ,Ala Mortija, Nael Shyouki, Mohammed Omer, Imad Ghanem, UN observers...the list goes on
link to ajr.org
In your fantasy world.
Israel has form in this respect, that is why. Shadid had more than a suspicion. It's no real surprise.
Israelis act like they are exempt from human norms of behaviour, and civil forms of rights and legal obligations. Then they whine about being treated differently. If you act differently, a law unto yourselves, hardly surprising you are perceived and treated differently. There is, however, a simple remedy.
What about Yahoo's condescending, arrogant, patronising, bullying treatment of Obama, and all of America? That goes way beyond 'shabby' into outright hostile, mobster-like attempts at intimidation and protection racket huckstering. There are plenty people in Israel who find the demagogue, the little tyrant, offensive, destructive and totally lacking in leadership. His legacy will be to have alienated the US and brought into the open for once the dependent aggressiveness of Israel towards the US, their sheer effrontery in always demanding, never giving, their constant attempts to run Congress and undermine American government decisions and their hysterical fear and war mongering to achieve ends which destabilise all attempts at peaceful co-existence. Their demonisation of anyone who crosses them, their constant lying and fake versions of history and politics, with scant respect for history or truth, will have finally brought Yahoo's chickens home to roost - an unliked, hostile, friendless little troublemaking country whose greatest 'friend' wants cut loose from.
And when the youngster pointed out that the emperor had no clothes, suddenly everyone saw the truth of the charge...
All people are not created equal in Israel, and never will be, if the Zionists have their apartheid way. No Israeli, apart from an honorable minority, can even conceive of the equality of Palestinians with themselves.
Everywhere you look, Israel and their agents are terrified, screaming hysterically, every time a debate is announced. Is their position so weak, so defenceless and vulnerable, so easily toppled that they daren't risk the tiniest amount of open debate about people's opinions? Really, they are making themselves enemies everywhere with their odious brownshirt tactics, so antithetical to American principles.
Nothing secret about them.
Yeah, you love violence against Palestinians and then sneering at them. Makes you feel all smug, eh, at your vastly superior brand of apartheid and racism.
Zionism reaches a new low, as if that is possible. Vile, cruel, moronic behaviour. Nice message to send to the world about your values. Regev, what is your feeble, whining excuse this time?
Funny then that Israel's agents are so keen to close down free speech in America when it is exercised by Palestinians and their supporters.
Well it would be fine if they engaged in honest debate. But Israel's track record suggests it will be the usual obfuscatory propaganda fest, with deliberate lies and smears about Palestine and its supporters, complete with concocted fake history and myth. Pathetically, most people living in Israel who are not settlers have less idea of the reality of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza than foreign nationals. If Israel wants some truth they would bring some Palestinians. Whitewash, pinkwash and blackwash. Rinse and repeat.
Yeah, blame the compromised, unrepresentative, toothless PLO and ignore the perpetrators of war crimes, dispossession and resources theft who created the problem. The PLO isn't the ANC, even if the apartheid under which Palestinians live analogy is justified.
Excellent interview and observations. I suppose we are going to have to add to the list of zionist fabrications and propaganda - whitewashing, pinkwashing, and now blackwashing. Really, the absurd amount of money and energy that Israel pours into denial of the reality for Palestine is stupidity and self obsesssion on an epic scale. For a fraction of that investment in lies, hatred and violence against the stateless people they have deliberately created, they could have sorted the problem years ago by investing in equal human rights and a real democracy for all. To achieve it of course, they would have to rejoin the human race instead of standing apart from it, as if normal rules don't apply to them.
Interesting how all of these self-appointed thought police have decided where the boundaries are of what you are allowed to report, or who you can talk to. In the next sentence they will be talking about democracy and freedom, with no noticeable irony. The fact that they are so desperate to contain the debate and smear anyone who might be articulate and offer intelligent proposals on the subject is indicative of the sheer desperation of their effort to patrol any public debate and keep voices from Palestine being heard. No wonder they are scared - when those voices are heard they walk all over the lies and hypocrisies of these so-called 'commentators'.
Israel destroys a real, existing place and erects a monument to a person from a mythical past. How apt, how telling, how much of an allegory for the whole sorry enterprise of Zionism.
Absurd, stupid, hysterical, lying, irresponsible, muck-raking garbage. These people are lunatics who worship war and destruction and nurture ideological hatreds based on racist thinking.
Amazing that bigots and racists like Grunis can openly say that human rights equate with 'national suicide'. So democracy for all means 'national suicide'. Perhaps the propagandists could refrain from claiming that Israel has anything to be proud of in respect of human rights or democracy? A democracy also requires, of course, that a country's legal system is independent of its political system, and treats all citizens equally under the law. But not in the Alice in Wonderland world of Israeli 'democracy', where democracy means what you want it to mean. And you put the Mad Hatter in charge of the Supreme Court.
Ha ha, that is one of the worst produced, inaudible amateurish pieces of junk video I have see for a while. This is the best propaganda you can come up with? A few random jerks saying Israel 'wants peace' is an argument? Or making false claims about being a democracy, let alone the 'only' one? What was that recent article about right wingers being stupid - this video is trying to provide the evidence apparently.
They cannot answer because there is no answer. That is the uncomfortable truth the frauds like Dersh live with and are in complete denial of. When it is simply framed and asked they have no answer except patent lies, myths and smears. They are losers when people want the truth. And they know it.
Patronising, racist, arrogant, ignorant. Cowed by the lobby, clueless about the ME. How typical of the pseudo scholars and intelligentsia who queue up to mindlessly repeat what the ziolobby have inculcated in them. So much for independence of thought.
They don't care what he is, or what his dubious standards are. They are hiring a right wing propagandist, which is what they want. Or they don't bother checking and get a biased, poorly researched load of guff. Which is not unusual. Oh, and by the way, what reputable organisations have employed this bluffer?
He isn't a documentary maker, or a journalist. He is a propagandist, so why should he have access to delegates, under false pretences? He is obviously a stranger to the idea of multiple points of view.
Oh please. Myths, I said. Self-serving at that.
Maybe because it demonstrates the fraudulent basis of Zionism and exposes the mythical mumbo jumbo that it clothes itself in. Of course this guy should have more rights and privileges than the people who were actually born there and whose families go back centuries.
Come on, what a load of whitewashing, diversionary crap. Is that the best you can do, to try and avoid the realities of the occupation. Events like this are legion, documented widely and consistently and have been for years. The IDF are thugs who suffer no punishment or remorse for their vindictive cruelty. This is all you can offer? Truly pathetic. It is not us you are childishly trying to fool, it is yourself.
Words fail me. The sadism of these IDF thugs is beyond reason. They are so indoctrinated with their supremacist thinking that they cannot conceive that a Palestinian life is equal to theirs in every regard, in fact Palestinians have more justice to their claims than a bunch of ignorant, bullying cowards who hide behind a system which encourages to act with impunity. No reasonable person, in possession of the facts, could possibly support the Israelis in their campaign of sadistic and deliberate harassment of innocent people.
And what does arch-hypocrite ashamed zionist have to say about the Palestinians killed, jailed and dispossessed by the IDF militias on a continual basis? Plenty to loathe there. Or perhaps you'd like to point out where on this site anyone supported the deaths of Syrians? And where on your ever so sensitive hypocrisy meter does the death of innocent Iranians figure? What you loathe isn't anything about Syrians, or any human beings welfare, it is the exposure of your feeble myths and lies.
Of course they said the same horsecrap about Iraq, how it would be over in a week, the grateful population throwing flowers at the troops etc. these people are demented and don't care, because they themselves will be well protected. Israel will sit on the sidelines and gloat whilst Iranians are killed by airstrikes and US lives are put in danger. They haven't a clue what they are talking about, warmongering imbeciles. The repercussions from their stupidity in Iraq are by no means over, they are trying to foment war in Turkey, their is no end to their desire for chaos, war and destruction. Whilst they hide in their bunkers, screaming for more, more.
What creative people, inventing ever new ways of torturing and subjugating innocent people. Irony is not their strong suit. Love that boilerplate answer: "allievating the experience of those being checked' - obviously they have no idea what 'allievating' means, but hey it sounds like good PR. I wonder what they would say if Palestinians started gassing Israel cars of those who wish to cross into the West Bank? Torture and degradation poisons the minds and souls of those who carry it out.
If Israelis had the same patronising, contemptuous terms they would all have been expelled years ago. What do Israelis know about 'good behaviour' after what they put people like this through, people who were there long before them, and have done nothing except the outrageous crime of existing and being born to the wrong parents? I wouldn't be surprised at all if they mysteriously find examples of 'bad behaviour' (existing, selling books?) not long before the end of the two years, and once the media spotlight has moved on. I hope not, but it would be in keeping with their Kafka-esque laws.
So Israel's determination to push the US into heavy sanctions and then war with Iran may result in this kind of blowback: more economic destabilisation and loss of global influence. Meanwhile Israel demands the tap is kept open on the massive subsidies and grants it receives from the US taxpayer, at the same time its actions are doing untold damage to the US economy. Nice. Israel sits around the swimming pool sipping drinks while it sends the bill to US workers and soldiers.
Extraordinary to see that it is utterly taboo to point out the facts of the case. Tiptoeing around the issue, as if mentioning it might trigger a meltdown, when in fact all that will happen is that a bunch of self-appointed right wing professional Israeli firsters will get hysterical and get their knickers in a twist. CAP practices the worst form of censorship - self censorship, which betrays everything they claim to stand for, as well as giving succour and encouragement to loudmouth bullies. Feeble, hopeless and terrified of standing up for free speech, they represent the political establishment in a nutshell - cowed and policed by a relatively small thought police force of hysterical Zionists, whose job is to quash any discussion of the disastrous influence of extreme rightwing Israel policies on the US.
Tilda is a fiercely independent thinker and supporter of original, creative and humane causes. This can only enhance her reputation. She is the last person to crave 'recognition' from corporate America. She has plenty already. I count it as a good career move.
Encouraging stuff. What they really hate is the raising of the question, because they know they are on a hiding to nothing when the full picture is presented to the American people. They have hidden behind a raft of ignorance and propaganda for decades. Time to shine a light on it. Their hysteria is heartening, as the more they ramp up preposterous charges of AS etc etc, they more absurd and ineffective they become. The paucity of their 'arguments' is painfully obvious, as they resort to the sliming of anybody who dares to 'think different'. Hey, we aren't accepting your undemocratic efforts to shut down debate on this issue.
What hysterical, overblown fluff. This man is another deluded fool, screeching apocalypse at the thought of, well, a window of his own imagination, 'closing'. Oh, he can't wait for the bombs to fall, in order to make him feel vindicated. It is a psychotic neurosis, fearmongering codswallop. See Robert Fisk's piece in The Independent today for a balanced overview of the years of ludicrous raving mad projections of their own psychosis from Israelis over Iran. They are certifiable and should be locked up.
And that is the whole Israeli agenda - to colonise the media to the extent that they swallow the Israeli propaganda so that they echo and continue it, as if that was the reality. Are the BBC, or any of the rest of the cowardly sycophants, going to harass Israeli pompous bullying spokesmen about recognising Palestine or its citizens, or recognising human rights? No, don't think so.
Haneen Zoabi is a shining light of integrity amongst the swinish retard behaviour of Israeli Jewish MK's. She is subject to vile propanda, smears and debasement, simply for being who she is, and what she represents. This is somebody whose family has existed in the region for centuries longer than the new immigrants who presume to rule her and her fellow countrymen and women. If there any international awards going, I hope she gets one, in order to draw attention to her plight, her integrity and what she stands for, in the face of vile racism and bigotry, with never ending threats and insults. Her existence is a testament against the Israeli fiction factory, its absurd posturing and hyper inflated claims, not to mention its inbuilt bias and prejudice against non-Jews. No wonder they vilify her.
Does he really want to say that? Child torture, apartheid, racism, segretation, dispossession, espionage, political assassinations, massacres - all of that at the heart of Jewish identity? I wouldn't have thought he would be so anti-semitic to suggest such a horrific thing.
What rubbish about the UK. It's what you, and others, want to believe, mixed in with a historical narrative which is grossly self-serving and inaccurate as most of Israeli 'history', otherwise known as the foundation myth.
The crucial question is why this is occurs. Is it remotely possible that IDF members had some glimmer that the inhuman devaluation of life they witnessed was in any way similar to their indoctrinated view of Palestinians and Arabs? Now that would be worth the trip, if they could see themselves in the wider context of ethnic nationalism and its racist, elitist behaviour.
Agreed, it is very hard to take, coming from such an arrogant and cruel society which then whines and manipulates about absolutely everything, claiming they are the victims - sick. What does the US/world owe these people? Nothing.
It's disgusting and what is even worse knowing and deliberate. This is part of the overall strategy to make life hell for Palestinians, such that Israelis quietly believe that they will leave. It is about the extinguishing of any hope, any glimmering of a normal life. It is what they smugly, callously, cruelly call 'teaching them a lesson', closely followed by their other favourite, 'it's the only language they understand'.
Israel is beyond the pale for any shred of civil society. They are an ideologically constructed militarised cult not unlike the fascism they claim to detest. They are beneath contempt, beyond hypocrisy and a disgrace to their forebears.
Israel gives the finger to the US, you know the country whose taxpayers funded their munitions, their hi tech planes, their pampered lifestyles, and expects them to meekly go along with their war raising, their segregation and apartheid. What a bunch of arrogant, insufferable dependents. Time for them to give something back, instead of sucking the US taxpayer dry.
Sounds like a good book. The fictional 'two states' has been a very succesful sales policy by the Israeli propaganda machine. Despite the reality that Israel controls, and has done for a very long time, the land between the Jordan and the sea, the mythical two states has allowed Israel to promulgate the myth that 'its' bit is democratic, unlike the 'other' bit. In fact it is one entity which has been successfully gerrymandered to ensure an always Jewish majority and control. It is gerrymandered to consign nearly half of the citizens into a fictional, non-existent state which Israel allows the status of municipalities wholly and solely dependent on their benevolence (or otherwise, as they see fit). Since the state is the guarantor of human rights, the non-existent state of modern Palestine cannot guarantee or provide any human rights to its banished exile population - in fact Israel has robbed them of any rights, and thus self determination or democracy, by placing them in this limbo of a fictional state. Israel is steadily building over any geographical separation, and disallowing any division of resources to underline the point that the so-called 'two states' exist only notionally, both of them virtual states created by Israel to justify the gerrymandering of its vote and its privileges. Israel is overlaid on Palestine, adjusting and appropriating its history and culture to make Palestine look like Israel, and thus Palestine to look like the nothing which Israel has decided it is. Israel is conducting a vanishing act on Palestine, slowly erasing it from the map and its own perception, trying to convince everybody else of its manipulated fiction of history and geography. And what will be left is Gaza and mini-Gazas, stateless people, impoverished by, and held hostage by, a ruthlessly controlling dictatorship who will erase Palestinian and its people from their consciousness by building walls around them where it can't see them. Thus they pretend they are a 'democracy'.
I trust he will resign immediately.
If he was Muslim he would be arrested.
I wouldn't believe a word of it. Just about everything that comes out of Israel is spin, whitewash, divert. The exercise was no big deal for the US, so why would Israel cancel to make some sort of power play. It makes no sense. It only makes sense if Israel is desperate to control the narrative, which it always is, and has the arrogance to think that it is bigger than the US, and can slap it down whenever it suits itself. It is delusional, power politics and a desperate attempt to save face. It cannot be a coincidence that the exercise was cancelled right after the Israeli terrorist assassination in Iran, which the US admin was clearly very pissed off about. Making convoluted, nonsensical claims through 'leaks' is just the usual attempt to control the agenda and the MSM. Yahoo is a rogue dictator, time for an Arab American spring.
Ha ha, a joker turns up.
This is incoherent rubbish, eee, and if that is the best you can do in an attempt to obscure the obvious point, it is pretty feeble. Is this your new insult - ooh, he is a Palestine firster? As if it means anything, other than some stupid idea of your own? Read the article and respond to the well argued points there, if you have anything worthwhile to say. Otherwise we can only assume you are trolling once again, since your gambit is utterly AWOL.
Another classic false equivalence. Nobody here is advocating uncritical acceptance of every single Palestinian claim, nor subservience to a Palestinian ideology, if there was such a thing. Nobody advocates waging war on other states for the benefit of Palestinians, or showering them with free arms and innumerable benefits. Nobody lobbies to call Palestinian critics anti-semites, or have them sacked and vilified. Nobody demands that every institution, including candidates for public office must swear an undying loyalty to Palestine.
Absurd attempt to equate undying support for a rich, ethnic cleansing, apartheid country with support for a vilified, dispossessed, deliberately empoverished people who are denied basic human rights. But no more than you expect from Jim Crow types who whine about 'anti-white' prejudice in the form of civil rights.
Absolutely standard Israel tactics. Smear, and then ensure your echo chamber repeats it across the MSM, turn it into a talking point, fudge the original point and make it a general libel. Keep the heat on. It has worked before and sadly it still works. Unless people stand up to the bully boys. What an absurdity that political opinion and debate is stifled by the little israel thought police. And why, you might wonder, does CAP think it has to declare that it is 'staunchly pro-Israel' - is it required to be staunchly pro China, when the China lobby comes threatening, or are they anti-China? In a dispute with Belgium, are they nevertheless staunchly pro-Belgium? What does it even mean. These people are absurd, shallow, shills who have private interests at odds with their self-righteous public baiting of decent people.
A fantasy of your own making. Still, it gets you off the hook, so what do you care.
yes, and a fetish which it is a virtual taboo to actually discuss dispassionately, and look at the reality of. The official who stomped out just typifies the attitude - we, who are guests here, will refuse to listen to the arguments, will spread hysteria and hyperbole around any raising of the subject or questioning of the fetish. We will accuse anybody who does of some kind of racism, although we are not quite sure exactly what kind. Not only that, we demand that you engage in endless foreign wars for our beliefs, which must never be discussed, since merely discussing them is some kind of existential threat to us. So shut up, pay up and make war for us, even if bankrupts you.
The truth sets an agenda of anti-Israel campaign. Change the truth and change the agenda. Shooting the messenger is the last redoubt of charlatans, liars and propagandists.
I wonder what other countries it would be acceptable for a House Leader to promise that 'we are acting in your interests, and blocking anything you may disagree with'. When will such people start putting the US and their voters first?
For daring to stand up to the Israelis, and try to help the Palestinians, Turkey is now to be terrorised by Israel's friends of convenience. Terrorism is Israel's favourite MO.
Is there any country that Israel is not at war with, subverting, manipulating and fomenting trouble within? I know they love to play the 'nobody likes us' card, but they seem determined to make it come true. The bunker state is an asylum for war gaming lunatics.
Those IDF tuff guys, it must be terrifying to be threatened with some water not even directed at you. A 17 year old girl is to be criminalised for defending herself - how can any of you morons even think this is remotely acceptable? I suppose you were just acting 'under orders', like those other fascists and their wheedling excuses.