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  • This website is 5 years old
    • justicewillprevail March 28, 2011 at 5:16 am

      Congratulations. This site is the future - enlightened, rational, compassionate and most importantly, not beholden to vested interests, manufactured myths or nationalist bullies.

  • Israeli Minister joins call for removal of pro-Palestinian Facebook page
    • justicewillprevail March 28, 2011 at 5:13 am

      Uh oh, a hasbara bot, dutifully trotting out the script. You will have to try a bit harder on this site.

    • justicewillprevail March 27, 2011 at 5:14 pm

      Get this one removed and the next step is anyone opposing Zionism's ideology and its relentless anti-Palestinian violence and terrorism. Curbing the open criticism of Israel's ruthless war against Palestine is the aim, and also suppressing the increasing revelation of its dirty secretive brutality. It's simple - call it 'anti-semitism' and try and force gatekeepers everywhere to silence it. The arrogance of Israel's propaganda department is horrifying to democracy and free speech.

  • Israelis who support the boycott from within
  • Can you really be a leftist and support Avigdor Lieberman? (Only in Israel)
    • justicewillprevail March 27, 2011 at 12:46 pm

      So you are 'left wing ' in Israelestine if you are not an out and out fascist? Of course, makes perfect sense in the Israel-in-Wonderland fantasy world.

  • What is your question for Benjamin Netanyahu?
    • justicewillprevail March 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      Ha ha, your irony is finely honed. Niniyahoo is of course the world expert in offering 'uncondtional' negotiations and then refusing to negotiate, not even read the documents offered. And as for achieving you goals through war and terrorism Yahoo knows only too well how to do this. 60 years of it have paid off handsomely.

  • The muzzling of Israel critics in European universities
    • justicewillprevail March 25, 2011 at 8:00 pm

      There is obviously a concerted push to identify criticism of Israel and the occupation, or even support for Palestinians, as 'anti-semitic'. Using the European definition of antisemitism, one designed to combat prejudice and racism, in order to protect the racist and illegal practices of Israel sums up the cynicism of modern Israel and its determination to use antisemitism as a barrier behind which they are free to commit any amount of crimes against Palestinians as well as the slow and determined ethnic cleansing of a once beautiful country. How sick that legislation designed to protect people from prejudice and hate is being used to by those people to protect their prejudice and hate.

  • Tipping point? Dan Rather crew angered by stripsearch before interview with Deputy P.M.
    • justicewillprevail March 25, 2011 at 12:08 pm

      The arrogance of Israel's little gatekeepers is astounding. Smirking and certain of their immunity to criticism or ability to be held to any ethical norms, they exude everything they have absorbed from their teachers, their parents and their ideology. Humiliation is essential to their wielding of power - it is designed to reinforce their assumption of superiority and tells everyone who suffers it that they are second class, however small the humiliation.

  • Israeli Foreign Ministry sent 'spy' to report on Gideon Levy speech in Dublin
    • justicewillprevail March 25, 2011 at 8:50 am

      Gideon Levy has the strength of his own convictions, a long track record and the backing of Haaretz. (Not to mention the ultimate backing of the truth on his side). I doubt there was an intention to intimidate him - the intention is, as reported, to smear him in other publications and in Israeli minds, by quoting him selectively and distortedly. The secondary aim is to send a clear and unequivocal message to other writers and journalists who don't enjoy the status Levy has. That is where the intimidation lies.

    • Israel is warping into East Germany, with its very own Stasi, its massive bureaucracy which exists to classify and report on every citizen. But worse, it now patrols the world, looking for the slightest criticism so that it can vilify and smear the independent thinkers, threaten them with punitive action and howl lies at. Is there any norm of civilised behaviour that Israel doesn't consider itself above? There is no law or convention of civil society which Israel subscribes to. They are a 'special case', exempt from any ethical or basic human values.

  • Conference of Presidents says settlers are 'royalty of Israel'
    • justicewillprevail March 23, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      "It's because they were Jews living in Israel"

      Really? Maybe it's not because of their religion at all. Maybe it's because they were citizens of a state who use these people as an advance army, in order to claim land over which they have no rights (other than myths and fantasies) and in the process deprive the indigenous people of land, water and freedom. People who act with impunity as gangsters and mobsters, terrorising innocent people, injuring and killing them. And how can they be living in Israel? If they are, then there is no argument over the fact that Israel is an apartheid, non-democratic state which rules the lives of millions of people who have no representation or civil or human rights.

  • 'Jewish and democratic' state intent on proving it is a democracy for Jews only
    • justicewillprevail March 21, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      That will be the 'international law' which you just made up. It's like the Bible - you know, made-up stories.

    • justicewillprevail March 21, 2011 at 5:33 pm

      So can Palestinians use this law to reject settler fascists from encroaching on their communities, or Israeli Palestinians to reject new housing schemes which encircle them and take their land and water?

      Oh don't bother answering, apartheid means the law doesn't apply equally, but is designed to reinforce the rights of one group over another.

    • Well they surely can't whine about being called (correctly) an apartheid state when they are about to write another statute into law which will reinforce it. Excluding 'undesirables' from communities is of course just a way of keeping the indigenous population out of 'nice' Jewish towns and communities. If that isn't apartheid tell me what you call it.
      And as for the hysterical paranoia about 'delegitimisation' it only reveals the terrible insecurity at the heart of the Zionist monocultural exclusive project - Israel can't stand on its record and take criticism, but has to attempt to outlaw that too. George Orwell would recognise the symptoms.

  • Barghouti: The West must condemn Israeli plans to spy on Palestine-solidarity activists
    • justicewillprevail March 21, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      Sending out secret police to spy on people, smearing, illegal gathering of information in foreign countries, assassination squads, kidnappings, murder of foreign activists, war crimes, illegal wars - what an arrogant little apartheid state. Absolutely nothing matters to them, international law, human and civil rights etc. The only thing that matters to them is themselves and their deluded sense of entitlement to everything they want, and the dismissal of every other point of view and every other person.

  • Settlers break Ayman's horse's neck before his eyes
    • justicewillprevail March 20, 2011 at 7:55 am

      The story about Ayman is heartbreaking and makes my blood run cold. How anyone can defend this kind of routine gangster intimidation (as many Zionists do) is utterly beyond me. Sick, sick bastards.

  • Arabs in Libya, Yemen, Bahrain and Syria are literally dying for democracy (and in the U.S. we pat ourselves on the back for going out to vote for Obama)
  • Israelis invoke violent threats to peace process
    • The Yahoo never misses an opportunity to exploit a tragedy. How repulsive to see him stamp his foot and, get this, 'demand' that Europe falls in line with him, because of a murder in the occupied West Bank (not Israel). What a crackpot. He loves to get on his soapbox and lecture the world on what they should do, whilst completely ignoring the criminal murders which are routinely carried out by the settlers and the IDF.
      Also how typical that Zionist apologists like Witty try a threadjack and immediately attempt to make the debate about the Palestinians. Yes, it is always their fault that have no human rights, are stateless and are attacked on a daily basis. I wonder if Witty and co take their hypocrisy from the likes of Yahoo.

  • Palestinian unity movement’s goal strikes at heart of Israeli occupation strategy of divide and conquer
    • justicewillprevail March 18, 2011 at 8:27 am

      "Whatever the history, and attributions of conspiracy, a unified Hamas/Fatah will have to either reconcile with Israel or war with Israel, very very much hopefully reconcile."

      The ongoing stupidity of these comments is tedious. What makes you think it is their choice to 'reconcile' or war? Haven't you read anything? Whatever the Palestinians do, in whatever guise, Israel repeatedly and consistently refuses to negotiate seriously or 'reconcile'. Israel holds all the cards, and is more than happy to exist in a state of permanent war with the Palestinians. That's right, war exists now. Typically Zionist, you think that it is all up to the Palestinians and they 'choose' war, when the opposite is true. You choose to believe the Zionist myths, yet come to this site, and apparently understand none of the mountains of evidence and eye-witness accounts of the lying aggressiveness of Israel which refuses peace and a two state solution. When will you ever understand, instead of mouthing platitudes. (Don't answer that)

  • Schnabel finally opens up on Israel: 'You shouldn’t have to be Jewish to be free in Israel . . . It is apartheid, that’s what it’s like over there. It is shocking.'
    • The 'right to exist' is a mythical right parroted by Zionists at every opportunity. Of course they think it only applies to them. Every thing, every animal, every person, every atom in the universe has a 'right to exist' if there is such a thing. What is entirely typical is that Zionists use it as an excuse to savagely oppress other people who get in their way of expansion and control, and thus denying this apparently selective 'right' to the local population. Palestinians don't 'deny' rights to Israelis - how could they? All they want is the universal human rights which are deemed to apply to every human being on the planet. It is an empty phase deployed for solely political purposes, and designed to remind everyone of the victimhood status exclusively reserved for the pampered, subsidised middle classes in their garrison state defended by US tax dollars.

    • Well done Julian for speaking out. I think it is folly for people here to berate him and others for 'not knowing', for ignoring it, turning a blind eye etc. It is easy to forget that many, if not most, people have no idea of the horrific reality of Israeli subjugation of Palestinians. That is the product of a tightly controlled and monitored MSM, as well as a natural human instinct to disbelieve that anyone could be so viciously cruel, vindictive and calculatedly sadistic as Israel is. Unless of course the MSM labels them terrorists, and then people can believe 'they' are not like 'us'. Israel hasn't received that accolade yet, although they are working as hard as they can to achieve it.
      Like Julian, I was vaguely aware of the politics of the conflict, but it was only when I went there that the reality overwhelmed and shocked me to the core. It is only when you see the naked aggression, contempt and brutality that is considered 'normal' there that you wake up to the fascist nature of the Zionist agenda. The paradox of it all is that it is in your face as outright discrimination would have been in the South before the 1960's, and yet hardly any Israelis 'see' it. They have become so accustomed to it, so comfortable with it, that they can 'welcome' you there without realising that they are about to turn you into a lifelong supporter of the Palestinian cause with a deep repulsion of the Zionist project. Which is why when I see Israeli tourist posters I just laugh, thinking that they have no idea how many of the tourists will be appalled at what they witness.
      Anyway, my point is that Julian's epiphany is all the more powerful for being an honest reaction to what he witnessed, and the fact that any person, Jewish or not, would react that way. The only way Israel has kept the lid on it is by the massive propaganda effort it has mounted for forty years or more. Now that is being shattered we should applaud each small step forward to the recognition of the reality that is Israel and the hope that, ahem, justice will prevail.

  • Palestine calling
    • justicewillprevail March 15, 2011 at 9:18 am

      I am sure we all wish the Palestinian protests well, although I fear the violent nature of Israeli reaction to it. We have already seen how they treat peaceful protests against the Wall and settler terrorism.

      Slightly off topic, but to see which side the US backs in the Arab drive for democracy and freedom, see how Hilary Clinton prefers autocratic Saudi rule:
      link to

  • JVP's meeting in Philadelphia-- a movement finds its moment
  • As if we needed more
    • Do you ever read or understand the debates on this site? If you did, you would understand the naive meaningless of your constantly repeated refrain.

  • Siege mentality: Knesset member calls for hearings about J Street for not loving Israel
    • Extraordinary confession of Israel's psychological neediness, its incredible emotional immaturity. This is a superweight toddler who goes into a hysterical tantrum unless it gets what it demands: unconditional love and devotion WHATEVER the actions of that spoilt, overindulged, violent, unfeeling and inhumane little brat. Anyone who deviates a millimetre from its all-consuming utterly selfish demands is immediately an 'enemy', an object of hatred and to be reviled.
      The question is what will it take, and when, will Israel, the superbrat, grow up and recognise the world, imperfect and flawed as it is, and learn how to live with that. That's why Phil is right: tough love is the only option - and prepare yourself for the howls and tantrums of the deluded infantile sycophantic fanbase.

  • Here we come to save the day
  • Jewish newspaper admits that Israel has become an 'embarrassment' for liberal Jews
    • justicewillprevail March 11, 2011 at 2:20 pm

      Excellent suggestion re a Common Myths link. It is one of the hallmarks of the hasbarists that they ignore well-argued and documented rebuttals and merely repeat ad nauseam their preferred myths and lies. I suppose it is better than having to confront the spurious basis of their beliefs, or engage in debate based around evidence, as opposed to manufactured PR.

  • NYU group cancels event set to feature Israeli Navy Seal who attacked the Mavi Marmara
    • It does demonstrate the unreal fantasy world they live in. They think nothing has changed since Cast Lead. They think everyone will bow before them and be impressed by this goon, as if he was some kind of soldier hero. They think the US public will believe anything they are told by the lobby and fake video footage.
      They are so out of touch it is laughable.

  • Abdeen Jabara to lead Goldstone discussion in NY tom'w night
  • NYU students feature Israeli soldier who attacked Mavi Marmara during 'Israel Peace Week'
    • Surely to be consistent they must have a Palestinian or MM aid worker there to 'balance' the discussion. Otherwise it should be cancelled, no?

  • Amanpour says P.A. has 'not missed the opportunity to miss an opportunity'
    • justicewillprevail March 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      LOL, 'not helpful' to what ? Continued occupation, robbery and subjugation, bombing and shooting unarmed civilians. Well we must use our special Israeli/Rest of the World dictionary and find that translates as 'very helpful'. You just have to remember everything the Israelis say is from the point of view of through the looking glass, their very own wonderland, and must be reversed to make any sense in the normal, sane world.

    • What an extraordinary insult to the courageous and dignified Dr Izzeldin Abuelaish, that apparently Americans mustn't listen to him without his being accompanied by an Israeli PR minder. How pathetic, as you rightly say, that the Israel lobby is terrified of stories from the heart, of human dignity amidst suffering and injustice. Not only does the good doctor speak volumes about the barbarous treatment of Palestinians, but he also speaks with great forbearance - whilst Israel can only speak propaganda about history, in order to blame the Palestinians for the war being unilaterally waged against them. That tells you all you need to know about Israel and its utter indifference to human suffering. No wonder they are desperate to hide the face they present to the world.

  • Israel looks to cash in on upheaval in the Middle East; may request $20 billion more in military aid from the US
    • justicewillprevail March 8, 2011 at 11:57 am

      A stabiliser for peace???? Has anyone heard such a bald faced outright lie as this? The most aggressive, violent and warmongering state in the region demands US taxpayers bail them out again, in order to keep DEstabilising the region, to the disadvantage of the US and most other countries. While Americans queue for welfare, struggle to pay health bills, your Israeli counterparts are enjoying a free national health service, subsidised housing and anything they like to help themselves from the Palestinians. Yes, they really need your tax dollars, it helps them start and prolong wars in which your sons and daughters will suffer, but they will not have to.

  • BBC spots sharp climb in negative view of Israel in the U.S.
    • All those millions spent on hasbara whilst lining the pockets of media and politicians, smearing the independent thinkers and trying to block open debate - and all they can achieve is tepid approval of Israel. As the reality becomes more apparent it will only get worse for them. No wonder they sound desperate with their pathetic attempts to call opposition to apartheid 'delegitimisation'.

  • My journey to BDS
    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 10:56 am

      I am sure he will feel chastened being lectured by you on what a boycott is (clue: it is not a wall - how disingenuous to compare the effects of a boycott on well-off Israelis with the Wall's stark, brutal and criminal division of Palestine). You clearly have no idea what a boycott is, apart from an opportunity for you to spout crackpot accusations.

    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 10:16 am

      Well said, Roger. Nothing can match the power of seeing the situation for yourself, a simple requirement which eludes an astonishing amount of Israelis (who nevertheless never stop lecturing us all on the subject). It is also, of course, why the ceaseless Israel PR machine is so very keen that it is kept from sight from as much of the mainstream media as possible.

  • Two indications from Egypt that Gaza blockade will collapse
    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 2:58 pm

      Oh right, its always THEIR fault. Israel never wages punitive warfare or imprisons thousands without trial, or destroys towns, villages and economies. Israel is the threat and the serial abuser of human rights.

    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 11:17 am

      Yes, without arms supplied by the US taxpayer, Israel might have to talk to people, relate to others in the area, make treaties which mean something and ask for some trust which it would give to others. You know, basic civil behaviour which respects human rights. In other words behave equitably, instead of hiding behind a military juggernaut.
      But you are right, it is laughable even to think it might happen, when it can just bomb, shoot and imprison people instead.

    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 10:22 am

      Well if you're so keen on the good outcomes of opening the border, perhaps you might address why Israel has kept the border shut like a noose around Gaza, and not opened it up for the free trade of goods and commerce, not to mention basic humanitarian supplies.

  • There is no practical solution, and that is why I talk about rights
    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 11:41 am

      "And, therefore it FAILS to persuade, if it intended to."

      Like your perverse murder of the English language fails to persuade, let alone make coherent arguments. It is apparent you haven't been able to understand the myriad of arguments put forward here, as you fail to discuss the implications of failed solutions and human rights.

    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 10:38 am

      Just remind us, will you, what work you do to practically assist the Palestinians struggle for human rights.

    • justicewillprevail March 7, 2011 at 9:48 am

      What's difficult to understand is your convoluted syntax. However, you appear to have argued that Israel is by definition incapable of granting universal human rights without acceding to its own elimination. As pithy a summation as any and one in which the leaders of Israel seem to agree, which is why they apply such aggressive violence to making sure it can't happen.
      In other words, Israel can only exist by recognising rights for Jews alone (regardless of their origin), and denying them to others, specifically the indigenous people. How right you are.

    • You illustrate my point perfectly. All talk and vague waffle, no substance. But it no doubt makes you feel righteous talking about a good path. So what, when the path has been there for decades and not a single Israeli official has ventured anywhere near it. In twenty years time you will be saying exactly the same generalised hot air. Did you read the article or this thread? Because if you have, you haven't understood a thing.

    • Lots of good points here. If I may add one point: this discussion revolves around the notion of a solution, and whether we can realistically envisage one. Shmuel is right, I think, to challenge the superficial commitment of many Israeli supporters to a 'two-state' solution, as if it somehow excuses them from the endemic violent prejudice of their state. Approving a two state solution, whilst they think it burnishes their liberal credentials, is almost never accompanied by a serious analysis of what that would mean and how it would be achieved. The beauty of it, for them, is that they can sound reasonable, without ever having to change anything about their current lifestyles. For the 'however-many-states' solutions are all aspirations - dreams, ideals whose chief characteristic is that they all exist in the indeterminate future, far enough away to safely ignore for the time being, that fulsome lip service can paid to them.
      In that sense, Shmuel and Bhargouti are correct - what can we do now, right now, to move things forward, and alleviate the suffering of a stateless people with no rights? The assumption of the 'solutions' camp has always been that a state, however stunted, will grant the Palestinians rights and freedom. However, one of Zionism's (many) Kafaesque strategies is to continually make vague overtures to 'peace' and a 'solution', whilst doing everything in its power to ensure that the day on which these events may occur never comes to pass. There is always an obstacle, the time is not right, there is no-one to talk to, the pre-conditions aren't acceptable, etc etc etc. for ever more. This IS the solution for Zionism - never having final status talks, while everyday another family is evicted, another home destroyed, another orchard razed. The solution is never giving in, never meeting the Palestinians on equal terms, never defining borders or agreements which have to be kept. And all the time making vague references to future scenarios, all safely residing in a fantasy fit for media and Congress dupes.
      Therefore arguing what version of the 'state' solution is the right one is as pointless and diverting as its opponents would like. As long as the talking and arguing go on land is taken, roads are built, evictions go on.
      So to my mind Schmuel and Barghouti are right not to waste time on it. Sure, you can make cogent arguments, as people here have done, that the two state solution is easier to envisage, but that doesn't make it any more likely to happen - certainly not a proper independent Palestinian state, as opposed to a series of enclave and ghettos ruled by Israel. For me S and B are simply saying the never-to-be state will not finally grant Palestinians human rights if it never materialises. Better to reverse the argument - Palestinians should be granted full human rights now, and then in the fullness of time a state, or two states will emerge from the exercise of their free and democratic rights. It is about process and not solutions. There is absolutely no reason why Palestinians should not have the same civil, democratic and human rights as Jewish people whichever part of Greater Israel they inhabit. That should be the focus of any negotiations or demands, and should be implemented BEFORE the endless prevarications and excuses that Israel hides behind. Waiting for a benighted, stunted state to somehow grant rights which should be there now is exactly what Zionist are happy with, because it will always be put off, deflected and ultimately rejected.

  • Netanyahu breaks the seal on the discussion of a 'binational state'
    • What a crock. If a binational state would be 'disastrous', then the deluded Yahoo and his friends ought to ask why the violent aggressive expansionism they have been pursuing as policy for the last forty years has made the so-called two state solution impossible. The only alternative to a binational state that these fools are creating is the apartheid state of the West Bank. The reality seems to be glacially slowly getting through to their tiny minds. Of course all they will do is grandstand and utter pious generalities (like Witty) in the hope that the world falls for the same old bogus declarations, and they can buy ever more time to claim more land and squeeze out Palestinians. As has become tediously clear, what they mean by a 'two state' solution is nothing remotely like that. What they mean is one state and an isolated series of ghettos, cut off and controlled by the noble IDF goon squads, with no civil or human rights or economic or political freedom. They have made the binational state the only alternative to the apartheid future they have created.

  • Weiner-Baird debate lived up to its billing
    • justicewillprevail March 5, 2011 at 6:06 am

      Thanks for that astonishing quote, Annie. Even if you get used to the colossal indifference to human life that the IDF and their cheerleaders epitomise, there is something beyond belief and reason in the callous disregard for people who offer no threat whatsoever to the crushing force of a military juggernaut. It is twisted beyond words to make the pretence of 'warning' people in order to claim that it is therefore 'legal' to destroy them. One of the traits of fascism was its use of bureaucracy to create categories and distinctions where non existed, in order to discriminate and deny basic rights, to separate and punish groups who were defined as 'other', outsiders, threats to the state etc. By virtue of the definitions foisted upon them, with no recourse for them, they were subject to punitive sanctions simply for being who they were defined as by the state. This officer is so proud of his Kafaesque reasoning, so eager to show how they can square humanitarian demands with the destruction of families in their houses, as if the two acts were mutual. It betrays the effects of an ideology so internalised, a militarised outlook that has evacuated any sense of common humanity, which is quite chilling. Thank god for the brave people of Breaking the Silence who prove that some Israelis can't stomach the fascism either.

    • Of course we know that most Zionists think the borders are the River Jordan, and the facts support that. However, the next question they have to answer is where do the West Bank Palestinians live? And why don't they have equal rights to new arrivals, why don't they have the vote and why aren't they represented in Israel. It seems the Zionists are making the one state solution the only option, and their next logical choice is then apartheid or democracy. Apparently they think both are compatible. The fiction that Israel is a democracy for all, and that the West Bank is in Israel, and isn't in Israel, depending on the identity of the occupant is absurd, ridiculous and vindictive.

  • Brian Baird said that U.S. officials didn't want him to seek an investigation of Corrie killing, then Israel flat out lied to him about the bulldozer driver
    • justicewillprevail March 3, 2011 at 3:54 pm

      I wonder in what other country a US citizen can be murdered by the state forces and the US government obligingly turns a blind eye? Wouldn't that be considered a fundamental dereliction of the basic duties of the US government to look after the interests of its citizens at home and abroad? From the USS Liberty to the Marmara, the US apparently colludes in the murder of its own citizens. Just whose interest is the US State looking after? (Don't bother answering)

  • ‘Light a Candle for Gaza’ –the rabbis’ piece the Washington Post refused to publish without major changes
    • How interesting and revealing those 'corrections' are. No attempt at objectivity, no interest in sources or facts, no effort to do anything remotely resembling journalism as we used to know it. Just a mind-numbing slavish piece of propaganda insertion, substantially altering the tone of the piece and making its original deeply felt and humble appeal to conscience an absurd jumble of contradictory and superficial sanctimony. In fact, just the sort of routine, superficial and callous attitude that the neocons display on a daily basis. Well done to the rabbis for exposing the corruption of the press.

  • Livni prescribes international law for Arabs-- but refused her own medicine
    • Trippy makes it absolutely clear what democracy means to her and her cronies: electing people like us, excluding people we don't like, and preserving the status quo at all costs. And, oh gerrymandering the state to make sure the result is what we want. Otherwise she might have to answer how come Palestinians are regulated, controlled and subjugated by Israel, but apparently live somewhere other than Israel and don't get to vote for those who run every micro aspect of their lives.

  • NY's LGBT center cancels pro-Palestinian event after donor/porn-merchant says it's 'anti-Semitic'
    • Israel and its supporters are relentless in their drive to censor inconvenient truths. Pro-censorship is not compatible with democracy or freedom of speech. Go back to your autocratic despots in the Middle East who would agree with you. Waving a gay rights banner whilst attacking Palestinians and imprisoning children is not progressive, I think you'll find.

  • Israel destroys hundreds of West Bank olive trees to lay settlement water line
    • Yep, nice try jon s to derail the thread and talk about your preferred victim narrative, in the vague and useless hope that it might obscure the daily tyranny and ethnic cleansing that Israel practices. Hardly an equivalence is it? Perhaps you would like to consider the genuine fear and terror that Palestinians daily live with, as practised by the IDF and the setter-terrorists.

    • As ever, Israel is doing an excellent job at making the most reasonable people loathe everything about it. How they can blatantly do this, and thousands of similar actions, and then whine about being singled out and other ridiculous fabrications is beyond reason. The fiction that the West Bank is both part of Israel and not part of Israel (depending on what suits them) is particularly grotesque. Fascism in action, of the blood and soil variety.

  • Heated Israeli Suez rhetoric burden on U.S.?
    • If a mouse came along waving an Iranian flag, Lieberman and Netty would jump up on their chairs and start shouting 'help' very loudly, demanding US assistance - more bombs and planes - while threatening to wipe Iran off the map. And of course they would call in the IDF goon squad to take reprisals against Palestinians for sympathising with the mouse, whilst issuing decrees that all mice must be immediately rounded up and put in camps.

  • Omar Barghouti kept from entering the U.S. for BDS speaking tour
    • Omar is one of the best hopes for a new independent and intelligent Palestinian leadership. That is why Israel and its lackey the US (as we have seen at the UN) will do anything to keep him from appearing on the media and in public. He, and others like him, can transform the debate and the perception of ISraelistine - everything Israel fears, as its pathetic propaganda will collapse under any sustained and informed debate.

  • '92d St Y' cancels appearance by Palestinian doctor whose 3 daughters were killed after Jewish co-panelist drops out
    • Amazing how easy it is to censor events which might show Israel in a less than shining light. The truth must be buried, and the situation never discussed without ensuring some representative for Jewish apartheid is there.

  • Israeli army targets and arrests children in order to repress Palestinian dissent in the West Bank
    • The barbaric heart of israel is beyond comprehension for most people - in fact israel relies on the natural tendency of most people to disbelieve that such calculated cruelty takes place on a daily basis. Much easier to believe in the mythical hype of terrorism so assiduously cultivated by israel and the neocons to justify their version of the Spanish Inquisition. Israel proves the psychological experiment which demonstrated how easy it is to persuade others to apply torture when collectively encouraged to do so and convince them it is ok. How anyone can excuse them after reading the torrent of articles like this is hard to credit. These people should be arrested and charged for flagrant abuse of human rights, not to mention criminal violence, murder and kidnapping. Why should we abhor Mugabe, the Burmese junta and not hold Israel in the same regard, when it is often even worse than these despotic regimes? Oh yes, it is apparently a 'democracy' - so that's alright then.

  • Neo-Cons: Egypt shows Bush as prophet and the demise of 'Arab Exceptionalism'
    • Amazing these people's contempt for their readers. They clearly think the poor saps who digest their daily hate have the memory of a goldfish and remember nothing. Trying to hijack the decency of the Egyptians to their cause is about as dishonest as it gets. Had it not been for Bush and his little mafia gang of neocons Mubarak would not have been propped up to the extent he was, encouraged to rob Egypt and ignore the demands of the people. Nor would people have been kidnapped and rendered into the prisons of Egypt to be tortured on behalf of the US administration. Neocons have never shown any interest in democracy unless it returns the result they demand.

  • Orange County DA files charges against 11 Muslim-American students who interrupted Michael Oren; JVP says 'charge us too'
    • justicewillprevail February 8, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      Well if that is the principle being operated the ranting brownshirts of Ziofanatics ought to be very worried since they spend an inordinate amount of time trying to intimidate and silence reasonable voices who happen not to agree to apartheid colonialism. Dershowitz et al: you're next. Not to mention AIPAC and the hordes of hysterical Israeli megaphones in the MSM.

  • JVP leader is targeted 'for Treason and Incitement against Jews'
    • justicewillprevail February 7, 2011 at 3:51 pm

      Well I suppose you could say groups like JVP, perfectly decent and honourable people, are smoking out the Jewish fascists. The level of intimidation and unapologetic harassment surely unmasks the 'presumed Jewishness' (sick phrase!) of these goons. What it does make abundantly clear is that they are entirely unable to defend Israel's apartheid and warmongering practices through rational or democratic means, and are willing to resort to threats of violence and campaigns of vilification in order to silence opposition to Zionism. It speaks volumes that their desperation is not to promote Israel but to close down discussion by any means necessary. It is a measure of their desperation, as people everywhere realise the horror of the occupation and its corruption not only of Israel, but also of the US government. You can only conclude that the more desperate they get, the more they damage their cause, and the more Israel will become isolated from the rest of the world.

  • Ahmed Moor: There is a sense in Tahrir now that democracy is coming– and medics and journalists are granted respect
    • justicewillprevail February 4, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      As usual, some window dressing from Tony. Oh, sounds reasonable to most people not familiar with the details of the occupation. And Netty thinks it will make him sound conciliatory and able to say 'look we are taking steps for peace, but the Palestinians won't negotiate'. In other words the same old PR moves designed to make Israel sound ever so generous. However, those familiar with Israel's iniquitous, biased and racist laws will know how, like fascism, bureaucracy at every level down to the most trivial entraps and discriminates against non-Jews at every turn. The giveaway is 'according to municipal laws' - as if it is merely a planning matter. But the Palestinians know only too well how housing laws are ignored when settlers build, whilst Palestinians who have lived in houses for generations are suddenly found to be in breach of some vague local law and thrown out with no notice. Mysteriously a Jewish family can then take up residence in the same house which has suddenly become legal again. There is virtually nothing a Palestinian can do which is not liable to be interpreted as illegal should the authorities feel the need to do so - they have no rights, never mind equal rights. So Tony and Netty's latest ruse is just another in the long line of propaganda moves designed to make Israel sound civil, when of course it is the exact opposite.

  • Tunisia’s spark and Egypt’s flame: The Middle East is rising
    • justicewillprevail February 2, 2011 at 6:40 am

      Jim - excellent summary of the short-sightedness and stupidity of the zionist folly of supremacist thinking. Israel can't exist as a virtual state hostile to everybody else in the region - the only rational way forward is to accomodate the reality of its geographical and cultural position. Israel could and should have been a motor for the region in terms of promoting development and democracy, and could have been seen as part of a wider realignment of social and historical forces.That it chose isolation and aggression, in pursuit of a non-Palestinian greater Israel, entailing a colossal amount of brutal repression and retribution, is one of the greatest mistakes ever. Thinking it could tough it out, assuming it could manipulate the despots of the region and sow dissent and infighting amongst its challengers, is futile. Egypt represents the rejection of that way of thinking, and demonstrates how what were thought of as ideological certainties can crumble overnight, as we saw in the Eastern European revolutions (which needless to say we cheered). Zionism is the other side of the coin of Arab despotism, they function together. Getting rid of one of them entails the same for the other. Time for Israel to emerge from its delusional bubble of separatism, see itself as part of the greater whole of humanity in the region, and understand that is the only way forward.

  • Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood vs. Al-Qaeda
    • True, but it is central to the Israeli/US neocon warmongers' project that Muslims are constructed as the terrifying 'other'. Like the old Soviet Russia it then functions as a means of enforcing domestic surveillance, political interference and alliances with dictators, not to mention unsustainable military expenditure and conflict. It is therefore irrelevant to these people, who will be dragooned by the hawks in the Pentagon and various thinktanks to infect the media with their scary propaganda and keep the populace in ignorance. Thus even though you are correct, there is no interest in the truth but, as Rumsfeld used to say, 'our constructed reality'.

  • Jewish settlers in occupation shoot two Palestinian youths, leaving one brain dead
    • justicewillprevail January 28, 2011 at 3:16 pm

      Fascist goon squads, must make the US taxpayer proud to be subsidising them. Not to mention their 'god' who apparently promotes this kind of terrorism. I guess they must hate the Palestinians way of life and their freedom, if the US MSM reasoning is anything to go by.

  • Biden: see no good, hear no good, speak no good
    • justicewillprevail January 28, 2011 at 6:02 am

      Interesting how the prospect of democracy terrifies the self-ordained masters of the universe. What, they might not do what we have decided? What makes them really uneasy is that having made themselves beholden to to yet another Middle East bully, Israel, the Palestinians might get the same idea and demand a real democracy. And where would all the Israeli apartheid supporters be then?

  • The Egyptian intifada and what it may mean for Israel/Palestine
    • justicewillprevail January 27, 2011 at 7:18 pm

      If democracy is a good thing for Egypt, which it obviously is, then it is also a good idea in Israelestine. Why, it might give those pesky upstarts in the West Bank some ideas.

  • More vindication for Goldstone: British news reports Israeli soldiers were ordered to 'cleanse' Gaza neighborhoods during Cast Lead
    • The utterly delusional nature of the Israeli 'response' to the honesty of the soldier's disgust at what they were doing is very revealing. It is so far off the scale that it qualifies as fantasy. "A judicial system renowned across the world" - yes, but certainly not for independence, rather the opposite - the routine application of apartheid policies and dismissal of civil rights for non Jews. "thriving amongst a desert of tyranny" - wow, now they are boasting about the privileges they grant themselves whilst tyrannising the Palestinians. This is why some decent Israelis are cracking under the pressure - no-one can hold up such a flagrantly dishonest fantasy whilst confronting the reality of what they are doing, the wanton cruelty and sadism they are asked to inflict on a poor and defenceless people. It seems the worse Israel behaves the more fantastical the lies - principally to protect the self delusions of those who instigate and support the polices of apartheid and discrimination. The dissonance between the fantasy and the reality erupts in those soldiers who haven't been totally brainwashed by the Israeli ideology - the likely result of which is that phenomenon invented by Zionist apologist doctrine - the self-hating Jew. In other words Zionism is creating a generation of people who have absorbed the flagrant fantasies of their moral superiority whilst having to acknowledge the realities of their savage treatment of indigenous, poor families. Zionism contains the seeds of self-hatred. I am not surprised that these interviews are attempts to acknowledge this burden and remove it by being honest and admitting the reality. It is also not surprising that those addicted to the myths can only respond by increasing the exaggeration of their fantasy, gilding it to the most ludicrous extent that it is transparently ridiculous to outside observers. They are caught in the absurdities and contradictions of their hermetically sealed ideology, the imminent collapse of which only spurs them on to reinforce it with ever more fantastical claims like the propaganda bulletin above.

  • 'The days of ‘48 have come again': 15 minutes from Tel Aviv, Israel creates a new refugee camp
    • Want to see what a modern version of fascism looks like? Here it is. Hardly surprising the embedded racism of Israeli laws sanctions it. Don't forget - these people are ISRAELI citizens - thus entitled (I know it is grotesque to even think of it) to equal rights. Just remind us how many Israeli Jews, including new arrivals who have no connection whatsoever to the land, are barbarically treated and thrown out of their homes. And where are the Israeli housing laws applied equally to Jews? They can build wherever they like. Israel is like the Chinese in Tibet, except worse, a loathsome little junta intent on the destruction of people who were there centuries before them. Vile tinpot fascists.

  • 'Palestine Papers' reveal PA collaboration with Israel, under US tutelage
    • So let's see: you undermine democracy in Arab states, install pliant regimes who collaborate in carrying our your policies and arrest any opponents. You then piously complain that there is no democracy in Arab states (and only democracy in the Middle East) and imply that Arabs cannot be trusted, do not want democracy, and will never compromise in negotiations, despite them offering you, their lord and master, just about anything you ask for while also pleading pathetically for the smallest crumb to bring back to their people. Which you, the tough guy, refuse whilst complaining that there is no negotiation partner so you don't have to do anything. Kafka couldn't have designed a more exquisite form of control and humiliation, a merciless system of exploitation of people who have no power, a crushing and cruelly dishonest stance which pretends to be 'reasonable'.

      See Robert Grenier, a former CIA negotiator here, for a sympathetic account of the (deliberately) impossible position the US put the Palestinians in:
      link to

  • Al Jazeera publishes bombshell leak concerning the peace process; ex-CIA official 'The overwhelming conclusion one draws from this record is that the process for a two-state solution is essentially over'
    • justicewillprevail January 24, 2011 at 6:36 am

      Juan Cole highlights the admission of Zippy Livni:

      “Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible . . . the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we’ll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state”. She conceded that it had been “the policy of the government for a really long time”.

      In other words, what we have known all along - there is no peace process, Israel is engaged in making a two state solution impossible. The only thing Palestinians can do now is sue for equal rights and full citizenship of Israel since they have been absorbed into Israel, like it or not. The only alternative to this is the Israeli objective of an apartheid state - one state in which nearly 50% of the population have no rights or freedom.

  • 'Israeli occupation as brutal as Nazis'' -- Elkana, Holocaust survivor
    • justicewillprevail January 21, 2011 at 6:58 am

      eee, please go back to hasbara school. You haven't even passed first grade yet. Repeating the most feeble of hasbara 'defences' is not much good when they fall apart at the most cursory examination. Not knowing about the history of your country or its current policies is also a bit of a handicap. Must try harder.

  • Debating BDS at Princeton
    • Every time the lobby is forced to bring its arguments out into the daylight we see how threadbare and dependent on mythology they are. I can only assume AIPAC and the like know this only too well, and thus are loathe to confront articulate speakers in the public arena. Their prejudices and racism are too easily exposed and their appeals to propaganda and recycled hasbara are poor substitutes for detailed eye witness arguments. Typical how the defenders can only come up with biblical mythology, the Holocaust and 'look, they're worse than us' lines of defence, while trying to bury the factual accounts of the Israeli daily crimes against Palestinian civilians.
      The more they are exposed the better, and the public will start to hear the facts behind the myth, and in that sense progress is made every time an event like this happens. Which is why BDS is a good thing - if it sparks debate like this then that alone is worth it.

  • What does Israel’s non-defense of poor Sderot say about security and policy?
    • The cynicism of the Israeli government knows no bounds, as we have witnessed many times. Sderot is a very useful tool in the propaganda wars into which Israel pours a great deal of time and money. Viewers of the network news would have been easily persuaded, with the transformation of Sderot into a TV studio, that the whole of Israel was about to vanish under bombs at any moment, while of course the assault on captive civilians in Gaza was banished from those networks. So it is hardly surprising that there is no rush to give Sderot real protection - its value as a symbol far exceeds any real danger to its citizens - and still we have the useful idiots braying the press that Israel is under attack from Gaza.
      Talking of useful idiots, 3e and the rest do a good job of trotting out the standard cliches and myths in order to justify Jewish supremacism and their imagined entitlement to the land and property of others. They can never admit that they are sharing a country, and the other 50%, most of whom have no vote or rights, are equally entitled to decide on the future of the joint territory. There is no separate Palestine, despite their mythology, principally because Israel has ensured it - the two peoples are entwined in one land. That Jewish people only should decide on their future is usually, and correctly, called apartheid.

  • 11 more families in Occupied West Bank are ordered to leave their homes inside 24 hours. Where is the U.S.?
  • Brooklyn-Jenin: Why didn’t the judges prevent the demolition in Lod?
    • You have to laugh at clowns like 3e. Ignoring the substance of this horrendous article, they scour the globe to find something they can point to and claim 'look, they do it too'. Except, invariably, they don't do it like the Israelis - the Swedish article refers to the consequences of rent arrears in the private sector; the homeless statistics in other countries may well be a matter of shame, but they are not the result of deliberate government policies to demolish houses. Really, the old tactic of finding some (invariable wrong) parallel to Israeli state racism as if it justifies it, must be either the last action of desperate men, or simply a blatant attempt at derailing the discussion. If you want to claim parallels, about the only available ones would be the old South African apartheid regime, the Chinese action in Tibet, or the Burmese treatment of monks and dissidents. Now, if that is your benchmark, and you think because they do it, we can do it too, I pity you.

  • Obama's failure has served to expose Israeli intransigence here and abroad
    • Yes, it is always the Palestinians fault that their productive land is taken from them, their water supplies diverted, their houses taken over, their institutions attacked, their free movement shackled, their lives made a misery - all because they don't elect the patsies the Israelis/US want so that they continue stealing their country from them. How convenient for the smug Israelis who have no real connection to the land, but have nevertheless decreed that it is theirs, have decided whoever speaks for the Palestinians is nor good enough for them. Blame the victims for not being compliant enough in their own ethnic cleansing.

  • Mondo Awards: Call for entries
  • Jeffrey Goldberg likens BDS movement to Nazi Germany policies
    • Ha ha, a classic hasbara ploy: whataboutery, deflection, false impugnment and a classic non sequitur. Well done for nailing so many puerile moves in one post.

  • BBC badgers Barak as no American outlet would: What is the US getting for its billions in aid?
    • Interesting that Barak flounders so badly, sounding like an ill-prepared student who hasn't done his homework. The best he can manage is to splutter some inane and banal generalities, none of which would stand up to a moment's examination. Clearly he, and his partners in crime, never expect to be asked some simple questions like this, since he is unable to answer them coherently or convincingly. So the arrogance displayed daily by Israel is laid bare here - the assumption is that Israel can do what it likes, and still boss Congress around through its financial purchase of most senators, allied to its bullying of the media and presumption to silence dissent.
      What really stands out though is the plainly and demonstrably untrue, pathetic excuse: "We are part of the Western way of life..." What hogwash, as anybody who has been there knows. News for Israel - you are a Middle Eastern state, your principles of ethno-nationalism and segregation coupled with your racist state apparatus have nothing in common with Western countries at all, and it is an insult to most Westerners to even think you are. You are also not that infantile phrase "the only democracy in the Middle East" since you are not a Western style democracy, whose crucial characteristic is one vote for all citizens within its borders and equal civil and human rights for all.
      Your presumption and arrogance that your warmongering paranoid pathology which is hellbent on defining half the globe as an enemy has anything in common with other countries in the West or elsewhere only emphasises your isolation, The only countries you have anything in common with are Burma, China and other despotic states who wage warfare on indigenous populations.

  • Secret House resolution says No to Palestinian statehood
    • What are they so afraid of? They regularly pay lip service to the two state solution, so creating the outlines for a Palestinian state must be a step forward. Or is it the formalisation of the 67 boundaries that so freaks them out, thus giving the game away that they never intended to adhere to them?
      Bunch of odious hypocrites who squirm at being found out for their continual lies.

  • Why I was willing to risk arrest at the AIPAC annual dinner
    • Well done Noura. Public demonstrations against the pampered, unrepresentative warmongers of AIPAC and Congress is very important, about time they are exposed as the parasites on American taxpayers that they are.

  • Palestinians in Israel would prefer one secular democratic state (but who's asking them?)
    • eee, what a deviant idiot you are. You deliberately misunderstand the piece, make a ton of completely false allegations, put words in Audrey's mouth that she clearly never said, and seriously misrepresent her article. I can only conclude from your propaganda effort that you have no interest in understanding the Palestinian point of view. Typically you portray every reasonable comment, and the mildest of requests for equal civil rights for all in Israel, as hysterically dangerous and seek refuge in the same old victimhood status, making surreal claims about the danger to Jewish Israelis of equal status for all citizens. Israel's treatment of Palestinians, in Israel and Greater Israel, has created this problem, but how predictable that you want to blame them for threatening you with democracy and human rights. Pathetic.

      Great piece, Audrey. This should be emblazoned at the start of all the torrent of disinformation that comes out of the Israel lobby:

      At the end of the day, it's not about one state or two. It's about equality and democracy, and it's about not having to leave your home. It's about national identity, but more about humanity.

  • 'Washington Post''s new blogger promptly calls for supporting human rights in Iran-- and killing Iranian scientists
    • I laughed out loud at the last extract. First she approves of assassinating Iranian scientists (on the basis of what evidence?) and immediately follows up with a call to make human rights 'a central theme'. And she can't see the gloriously stupid outright utter contradiction of those two statements. The only logical, Socratic conclusion is that therefore Iranians are not human, and therefore are exempt from claiming 'human rights'. I suppose they are like Palestinians - so evil and subhuman that 'we' are allowed to do anything we like to them. But then to claim that 'we' (like the good ole Israelis) value human rights....
      This woman is ill, take her away for treatment

  • Hamas aims to kill 'all Jews worldwide,' Oren says (after laying wreath on King's grave)
    • justicewillprevail December 8, 2010 at 5:18 am

      Oren is a creep. Exploiting the memory of a great American civil rights leader in order to propagate the removal and dismissal of civil rights from an indigenous population treated worse, if that were possible, than Black Americans, is odious. Any responsible US media would have pointed it out straight away, and taken grave offence at the insult to American history and suffering. Imagine the synthetic outcry if a Palestinian visits King's grave and makes the obvious parallel between their apartheid and America's earlier version. Except he would be right.

  • What are Israel’s priorities in time of natural disaster?
    • justicewillprevail December 5, 2010 at 5:22 pm

      Just remind me which part of being 'the only democracy in the region' applies to the use of violence against peaceful protestors, their imprisonment, the callous disregard for human rights and the use of force against children (by the most moral army in the world)?

  • Odious NGO Monitor smears Electronic Intifada, tries to cut funding
    • Isn't it abhorrent that these people assume the right to smear and silence organisations who are meticulous in their research and arguments. It is hugely revealing that they have no interest in argument or debate but merely fascist tools of propaganda and threats of violence and intimidation. It is clear that they have no arguments worth the name, but think they have some right to stop people hearing about the plight of Palestinians. They clearly can't see the deficit in their tactics, when on one hand they will whine about being the 'only democracy in the ME' before they assume the right to silence free speech and debate, denying the rights of many individuals living under a so-called democracy. Hiding behind false names like NGO Monitor, as if they are some sort of status as a watchdog is typical of their dishonesty. But what do you expect from a bunch of hate-merchants who have adopted the thug tactics of the settler vigilantes?

  • The American Jewish belief in the endurance of anti-Semitism is at the core of the problem
    • justicewillprevail December 4, 2010 at 2:55 pm

      The irony of it all is that Zionism has become so embedded with anti-Semitism as its core rationale, that it must continually find it everywhere it looks in order to sustain itself. It was only when in Israel I realised how the most minor (and questionable) instances of anti-Semitism are reported and talked up in an almost triumphant way - see, we told you so etc. Admitting that the world is far more dangerous for other groups of people - whether ethnic groups in China, Africa or the Middle East - is absolute anathema to Israelis, who never seem to view themselves as humans equivalent to everyone else, but as elevated by their 'suffering' (in their condos in Tel Aviv and Washington) into a special, uniquely deserving category. Losing this badge of exceptionalism (which the Vietnamese or the Rwandans or the descendants of slaves must never be granted, whatever privations they have suffered) is tantamount to extinguishing their identity, since they have built their identity on a cultivation of victimhood which, in the main, doesn't actually exist in the modern world.
      It is a recipe for psychological disorder as well as a never-ending sense of entitlement, not to mention the complete dismissal of the people whose homes they have occupied. The biggest problem is the continual US indulgence of Israel and the connivance in perpetuating the habit of calling everything except absolute capitulation and appeasement 'anti-Semitism'. Like spoilt children they need the shock of finding out their needs are no different or better than the rest of the population, and in particular the indigenous people who have suffered so grievously from their psychosis.

  • 'Wikileaks' cable drop is a giant power move for the left
    • justicewillprevail December 3, 2010 at 6:20 pm

      And see here for the dubious past of one of his accusers:

      link to

    • It appears that the most Assange can be accused of is consensual sex without a condom, which is considered a crime in Sweden. Certainly nothing as heinous as rape:

      link to

    • justicewillprevail December 3, 2010 at 3:56 pm

      You have to tip your hat to Assange. He has put his life on the line in order to expose the gap between what politicians, diplomats and lobbyists say in public and what they do in private. It is a historic blow for the public versus the slimers who think they alone should be allowed to control decisions on peace, war and politics. It is not surprising that they are having an apoplexy and I hope there will be more to come. It demonstrates very clearly how arrogant are the power mongers who think the public should be fed a mixture of minimal information and outright deceit. And of course the MSM collaboration in the whole charade.
      Interesting how a blast of true democracy, which is absolutely dependent on truth and transparency, is sending them into a panic. It hasn't put anyone's life in danger, just the reputations of all the charlatans and bloodsuckers who live lavishly off the taxpayer and do nothing except act in the interests of corporate power and undemocratic ideologies.

  • Mt Carmel fire is huge news-- what about the arson all over Palestine??
    • justicewillprevail December 4, 2010 at 1:42 pm

      Another take on the fire from Gilad Atzmon:

      link to

      This time regarding the identity of the artists village which burned down. Seems this is the second time it suffered a disaster - the first of course when the Palestinians, whose village it was, were ethnically cleansed from there. Not that the Israelis will be mourning that tragedy, or even acknowledging it happened.

  • Watching The Pianist in Gaza
    • Difficult when Israel and its occupying force is doing everything to defeat you and make your staying alive as difficult as possible. When you are driven out of your home, dispossessed and stripped of your civil and human rights, treated worse than animals, subject to arbitrary arrest, imprisonment and abuse all you can say is 'stay positive' - how pathetic is that. That worked for the Tibetans, the Burmese monks and the Zimbabwean population didn't it? Don't rock the boat - is that the best you can offer? You do a good job of representing an utterly callous disregard for the most basic human values which typifies the Israeli mindset.

    • justicewillprevail December 2, 2010 at 3:34 pm

      You are right: the story of the Warsaw Ghetto is a universal tale of discrimination, humiliation and human suffering. It is not surprising that Palestinians can identify with it so closely. That Zionists try to adopt it as their story and theirs alone only emphasises even further their failure to learn from it. And to turn the tables so that they are the persecuters, inhumane and indifferent to the suffering of others, besmirches the memory of the victims and mocks their pain. Never again should mean never again.

  • What would you do if . . .
    • I think you will find that what is weird around here is your inexhaustible repetition of garbled statements which as far as a literate reader can tell boil down to telling the Palestinians to be respectful serfs. How inspiring your message must be to similar movements - anti-apartheid, the Burmese, Zimbabweans and Tibetans - don't do anything to upset your masters, and always be passive, never resist your enslavement and always smile. Yes, they will surely win their freedom from fascism with your exemplary encouragement to never rock the boat, and take all the blows with pride and humility. Jerk.

    • Well, I would join the resistance, as many honourable people have done in similar situations. And i would crusade against the fascism directed at me.

  • When hope is lawful
    • 'Negotiation' is going nowhere. Israel has no intention of negotiating anything. It simply demands that Palestinians accept the pathetic few crumbs it offers: a life of captivity, humiliation and no hope. This is deliberate, in the hope that somehow they wither away. They are not being offered any 'choice'. Sarah is absolutely correct that a one state 'solution' has already been implemented - Palestinians are supposed to accept that and live in a few circumscribed ghettos with no civil or human rights. And she is also right that no human being should accept this, as the UN clearly agree.
      It is entirely typical that smug Zionists like you put the blame on Palestinians for not lying down and surrendering everything in the face of Israeli fascism.

  • For killing 9 on the flotilla, Israel should apologize to.... Israel!
    • Museum of Tolerance??? Where they urge young Americans into a war where Israelis won't die, but Americans will? These people inhabit not the Museum of Intolerance, but the Universe of Intolerance, formerly known as Israel. And they're proud of it.

  • A 91-year-old shepherd, killed alongside 29 of his 30 sheep in Gaza, was called a militant by IDF
    • And they wonder how the world feels nothing but revulsion at Israeli tactics followed up by cover-ups and blatant lies? Next they'll be bleating about their victim status. Sick.

  • Wait-- we are giving who?? 20 F-35 stealth attack jets?? for what??
    • Thankyou for reminding us every cliche in the book. I don't suppose you have any of those alien concepts, facts, to back up this boilerplate list of Israeli denialism: it's all their fault - we keep attacking them and taking their land, but they just won't agree to it. Israel has indeed 'done its part' - it has deliberately made a peace settlement impossible.

    • Where is the US demand that Israel puts in writing its precise intentions regarding the settlements, Palestinian territorial sovereignty, the extension of civil and human rights to all Palestinians, the lifting of the Gaza seige?
      Only, and only then, is the little bully state entitled to ask for, not demand, US intentions regarding any deals.

      The only silver lining to the abject humiliation of the US by the tinpot emperors of Israel is that the American public will for once and for all see the little mafia state in its true light, and will conclude that no more draining of US taxpayer's coffers for a war-obsessed racist state should ever be contemplated again.

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