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  • Obama's failure, and achievement, in Palestine
    • Lincoln routinely went over the list of Union soldiers who were to be executed for desertion, to see who among them he could reasonably take off the list. Obama was not creating the kill list, he was reviewing it. Did he do this to add people to it? It seems to me more likely that he was reviewing the list like Lincoln. That would fit better with his pardon of Chelsea Manning.

    • It seems to me Obama's true priorities and goals were shown in his Cairo speech and the Iran nuclear deal. Both involved standing up to the war profiteers. The Iran deal removed the main excuse for the MIC's next war, and was done in the face of extreme political pressures on all fronts. While working hard to assure Jews of security, he advanced the discussion toward justice and away from the abject, subversive subservience to Israel, the Israel lobby, and the vicious war profiteering banksters behind them.

      It also seems to me most liberal critics of Obama underestimate the extreme power of the forces he was up against. They seem to think this is just about speaking up in a political debate. In reality, an international gang of ruthless criminals (e.g. LIBOR) controls the money system and most of the wealth, and thereby the media with its capacity to character assassinate and drive people from public life, and thereby the Congress with its capacity to write the rules. And it's not just their vast financial muscle they use. They also routinely use blackmail and murder. It is my studied opinion that they were behind the JFK assassination and 9/11, AND have had the media, political, and social power to cover up these monumental crimes, DESPITE the OVERWHELMING evidence available.

      Obama was riding a powerful, evil tiger which even the office of the presidency could not rein in unilaterally. Even Cory Booker would have betrayed him had he tried to do so. He would have been savaged (even more) by even the (cowed and quivering) "liberal" press, and possibly impeached. He made significant progress in turning this giant ship away from war while avoiding getting himself (or his family) murdered. The extreme evil and power of this cabal cannot be overstated.

  • It turns out Jews are as stupid as everyone else
    • It seems to me calling David Makovsky, Peter Rubenstein, et.al. "stupid" is too kind. They appear somewhat more intelligent and informed than that. More likely, their "lies, mischaracterizations and insults of students who support Palestinians" stems from their being lying, thieving, dregs of humanity. And well-paid.

  • Jared Kushner fired me over Israel ten years ago
    • They could be brothers.

    • Successful business people must, to a good degree, pay attention to the numbers, the ultimate facts, the amounts in the recipe, in the mix. The relations between these numbers make or break the deal.

      That should be the way to a deal with a numbers-oriented person. But a strong emotion can overpower reason, it's well-known. It can steer the attention away from certain facts, key facts. Ignoring key information is a certain path to a poor decision. Strong emotion can also inflate certain priorities, to make the decision fit the feelings. Only by consciously guarding oneself against these mistakes can a person avoid them.

      Justice for All is a guideline the human race as a whole has attained, even though pockets of people cling to a variety of ethnic-supremacy theories. It's pretty obvious that America, of all nations, should stand strongly for Justice for All, disregarding racial, religious, gender and other needless discriminations.

      In his election night speech Donald Trump said he would be "fair". I deeply hope he puts Fairness as his top priority in all his presidency's deals.

  • Booker slams UN resolution as 'anti-Israel,' while Saban says it's anti-American
    • Haim Saban has no idea what's in America's interest, and he doesn't care about America's values. He's an Israeli Tokyo Rose.

    • I agree the Zionists are desperate, flogging all their horses like madmen.

      One day Booker will be saying, "I'm shocked! shocked! to find ethnic cleansing going on here!"

      Time for American Revolution 2.0. King George was overthrown, and King Israel will be too.

  • In 'breathtaking' UN vote, Obama changed his policy on Israeli settlements, making them a war crime -- Finkelstein
    • I agree this is a very worthwhile analysis by Finkelstein. I also agree it contains gaps. In explaining the Zionist domination of this issue he says,

      "Because the Zionist movement understood ... that if you want to win this cause you have to have public opinion on your side."

      It seems to me this should lead to an analysis of the Zionist financial control over mechanisms of forming public opinion. This would include the press and publishing companies, the very control that has kept Finkelstein in the media wilderness, along with the most basic facts of the case. Zionist control over the NYT, America's flagship news organization has been well-documented in Mondoweiss. And the same Zionist censorship is evident all across America's mainstream media.

      It would also include analysis of the Zionist financial control over American politicians, who also play a major role in determining what the public knows and thinks, as well as voting to support Israel's crimes. Zionist control over America's politicians has been well-documented in Mondoweiss.

      It seems to me the enormous power that must be involved to control America's media and politicians is a factor that has to be considered in understanding why Obama and his lieutenants acted so cautiously in working against that power. Why does Finkelstein not discuss this obvious elephant in the room?

      Finally, Finkelstein emphasizes the significance of public opinion in the Zionist success and the Palestinian failure. But he doesn't consider the potential effects of this latest round of actions by the Obama administration on the world's on-going discussion and consequent public opinion.

  • Democratic politicians want no part of Obama's courage at the U.N.
    • "This pattern is important because it demonstrates how politically brave President Obama was in abstaining from a resolution the world is behind him on."

      Ironically, rightwinger Lawrence Solomon gives a very accurate assessment (in article quote above) of why Obama had to act with so much caution. In that vein, a prescient article from 2010 "What Obama Is Up Against" also discussed the massive, corrupt power Obama would face.
      http://whowhatwhy.org/2010/03/10/what-obama-is-up-against/

    • Pretty hard to call Diane Feinstein anti-Semitic. Maybe she found out the CIA group that hacked her Senate Intelligence Committee computers was an Israeli cell? These other Democrats are probably under intense financial pressure from their "donors".

      More ominously, we now know the Israelis have a history of false flag operations and planting agents in various organizations to sabotage their goals.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2017/01/terrorism-israeli-state/

      So now I'm wondering if Sherrod Brown is an Israeli agent pretending he wants to "get money out of politics" so he can sabotage that effort from inside. EXTREMELY disappointed in Brown.

      (And how do we know the alleged Russian hacking, currently the main topic in America's Israeli-controlled media, was not an Israeli false flag operation?)

    • EXCELLENT point. The hypocrisy and dishonesty meters are maxed out. This absurd insanity would be impossible without Israel's stranglehold on the mainstream media.

  • Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
    • Annie,

      What would it take to get this book on the New York Times best seller list? What stores to they monitor? How many sales are needed?

      Elizabeth,

      Fully agree. I hope everyone posts links to this article all over the web (in appropriate comments to appropriate articles of course).

    • Thank you for this spectacularly informative article. Surely Tom Suarez will soon be interviewed on the PBS Newshour, Morning Joe, etc.

      "Whereas the Palestinians were self-sufficient, the Zionist settlements exist on massive external financing"

      More on the massive external financing is online in "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror", for readers who haven't seen it.

  • Resolution for 2017: Stop substituting 'the occupation' for 'Zionism'
  • Netanyahu's holy war, and the coming Jewish schism
    • Thanks for this excellent analysis. Netanyahu's and Israel's reaction - IGNORING the overwhelming facts and logic of Kerry's case and PRESUMING Israel's moral superiority - is clearly based on a fantasy reality.

      "It displays the same mixture of fundamentalism, politics and money, a mixture that nowhere in the history of mankind has elicited respect or elevated the spirit."

      And it's usually the money that manipulates the fundamentalists and the politicians. This appears true in the case of Israel. Netanyahu is an especially useful tool, being a fundamentalist, a financier, and a politician. For readers who haven't seen it yet, this nexus is reviewed online in "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror".

  • Why Obama waited 8 years to take on Netanyahu
    • In MSNBC's main evening lineup Chris Hayes seems to the be point man, testing for land mines. News land mines blow up your job. I like to think O'Donnell, Rachel, etc are ready to help their colleague if he goes down. Perhaps they could set up an insurance fund for such reporters, Killed In News Duty (KIND).

      Chris struggled mightily (and perhaps dutifully) with Noura Erakat, but what mattered in the end was that she got a chance to tell a story untold in America. And did a good job. Andrea Mitchell also stood out, for focusing on the points in Kerry's speech, even letting Kerry speak for himself in a forthright but fair interview. Good maps of the Israeli settlements were done for one MSNBC program (Road Map?); should be useful in Lawrence and Rachel's eventual discussions.

      (Great photo of Hanan Ashrawi. She has shown immense character in reponse to the Catastrophe inflicted by the Israelis.)

    • The huge difficulty America has in discussing the simple facts of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict shows the tyrannical grip Israel has on the U.S. When a country cannot discuss certain facts in an open and practical way, that county is by definition living under tyranny. I second your thanks to the Mondoweiss team for their very important role in documenting and analyzing this tragic situation.

    • Bill Maher suddenly lost his "Politically Incorrect" show when he started having Palestinian students on, who started telling Americans the true historical facts about Israel in Palestine. After years in the broadcasting wilderness Maher was allowed back in, now as loyal defender of Israel. (Not a conspiracy.)

    • Lots of talk on Morning Joe about the Kerry speech. Very well controlled by Israel. Almost no discussion of the facts of the settlements; virtually no education of the American public - crucial for Israel. Lots of focus on a "personal" conflict between Obama and Netanyahu, a complete distraction. Lots of Israeli spokespeople and a stream of blatant lies from them, essentially unchallenged by the "free press". Probably as good a cover-up as the Israelis could manage, given they have to maintain a facade of a free press. Some "objective" analysts also weighed in. They also tiptoed carefully around the key facts of the case, focusing on horse-race mechanics.

      Kerry's problem - Imagine Elliot Ness trying to warn people about Al Capone, but being politically required to praise Capone in every third sentence. That is the power of the Israel Lobby.

      We need another speech informing the American people about the CRIMES of Israel, against both Palestinians and Americans. But who will bell the cat?

  • The formal end of the two-state solution
    • "Prime Minister Netanyahu warned New Zealand that its support of the resolution was 'a declaration of war'"

      This is Israel's logical red line on going to war. There is a newly open international awareness that Israel is speaking and acting completely in bad faith. This leaves blunt defiance as Israel's only way to continue its current course.

      Illogically, since Israel was financed by war profiteers (e.g. War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror), the money men behind the scenes may be fine with another big war, regardless of who gets hurt. To them, the perpetually provocative character of Israel may be one of its intended features.

  • Hear O Israel these parting truths -- John Kerry
    • I agree, Kerry's speech was excellent. He shredded the Israeli lies, while showing the utmost sympathy for the duped and paranoid American Jewish community. The moguls of the Israeli-controlled media undoubtedly intend to sideline Kerry and Obama as soon as they are out of office, as was done with Carter. Can such a historic speech from an American Secretary of State significantly change the conversation, or can the oligarchy bury it? Will all the MSM reporters and pundits continue their compliant role in spreading Israel's blanket of lies? Are there no MSM editors and reporters with the guts to tell the truth about this story? (It probably won't be Dan Rather, who learned his lesson the hard way, banished to the media wilderness.) Could a group of editors and reporters revolt as a group? Israel's control over America's MSM needs to be shattered. New safeguards need to be put in place to prevent such a takeover from happening again. This is a time for patriots and lovers of liberty to take action, large and small.

    • "Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world will not make a secure and lasting peace with us until we give up the irredentist dream of 'all Israel-Palestine for Jews'"

      That is the point of pitting the unrelenting force against the immovable object - conflict. Let's face it, the clearly extremist, nuts, vicious so-called "settler" bloc could not afford to drag the world's only superpower around by the nose. That takes BIG money, the kind that can buy media, and politicians, and have many front groups. For instance, war can be extremely profitable for a select few, e.g. "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror".

  • John Kerry gives the 'separate but not equal' speech to Israel
    • The MSM has been slow reacting to the Security Council vote. The heavy hitters are being cautious, while more peripheral reports are going forward. MSNBC had a very good segment on the historical growth of the settlements complete with maps. Will Lawrence O'Donnell et. al. use those maps in any upcoming discussions?

      An Israeli defender on (I believe) NPR's "To the Point" told lie after lie, an imaginary tale about an imaginary Israel. It will be interesting to see if the Israeli-controlled MSM can shut down the process of informing the American people about the Nakba. Because that is the story thread that is being pulled. And those facts shred the Zionist fantasy mask.

      I suspect a lot of MSM people are trying to wait and see if Israel will maintain its rule of the U.S. They don't want to join the rebellion too soon. On the other hand, a lot of them are undoubtedly ready.

      The Israelis should be very worried about an organized rebellion among the TV news organizations. Let's suppose a few principle reporters and technicians at several networks took over their network broadcasts at the same time. They could each have their own trusted anchor deliver the same report to all Americans, explaining how they have been captive all this time. It would be impossible to put the secrets back in the basement.

  • Historical evidence does not support Zionist claims re the Western Wall
  • Friedman pick will force good liberal Zionists to admit the peace process has failed
    • What makes Israel such a dangerous enemy is that it has managed to disguise itself as a friend.

    • For clarity, I'd characterize your point not as a "quibble", but as an "additional destructive aspect" of Apartheid. Which it most definitely is. And in that respect, Zionism is bad for the Jewish community. It seems to me you make a very important point.

    • Or, how about returning all the art stolen from Jews by the Nazis to its rightful owners, and returning all the land stolen from Palestinians by the Zionists to its rightful owners? The land theft is MORE RECENT than the art theft.

    • There have always been subgroups within the Jewish community. But WHY has the "establishment" group (i.e. the "donor class") always supported, and continued to support the most radical, Jewish supremacist, archaic, blind to plain justice, "settler" group? For clearly this pipsqueek bunch of religious fanatics on their own would not have been able to control America's media and political "establishments".

      Is it possible the "donor class" of the Jewish establishment has some ulterior motive, either directly or indirectly related to their financial fortunes? e.g.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/because-global-supplier/

      As evidence of this possibility, recall that a member of that group, Bernie Madoff, swindled a Holocaust memorial fund. (!)

      The emotional attachment of liberals to Zionism has depended on deception. e.g.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/a-history-of-silencing-israeli-army-whistleblowers-from-1948-until-today/

      The liberal Zionists are akin to retired widows who are swindled by professional-level fake romances.

  • Stephen Cohen calls out liberal media for demonizing Russia, slurring Tillerson and stigmatizing all dissent
    • "How does he compare with President wannabe Hillary’s likely choice of Victoria Nuland for Secretary of State?"

      Well stated. The "problem" with Tillerson is that he is not clearly in Israel's pocket. THAT is what is driving this whole MSM windstorm.

    • And as Robert Parry has pointed out, the leaked emails in question were telling Americans the TRUTH about how the Democratic nomination was stolen from Bernie Sanders.
      https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/13/hypocrisy-behind-the-russian-election-frenzy/

      Why is the MSM not in a frenzy about THAT? The obvious implication is that the MSM are owned by the same people who sandbagged Sanders. This implication is strongly supported by the extremely shabby, biased treatment that same MSM gave Sanders during the campaign.

  • Jewish brawl on CNN signals breakup of the pro-Israel monolith in the Trump era
    • "If you take a Nobel Peace laureat, and the face of the six million, and you say that he's covering over Jewish occupation and atrocities, you're ... " [interrupted by moderator] Boteach to Beinart at 5:30 in the article's video.

      Since Boteach brings up the subject of alleged Israeli occupation and atrocities, and clearly holds a different view than Beinart, it would be logical for CNN to host a debate between the two on this point. And since this is such a FUNDAMENTAL difference, such a debate would be a GREAT public service.

  • Adelson delivered! Now it's Trump's turn
  • Strangled Education: Reporting on higher education in Palestine and Israel
    • " No matter how many times this is pointed out, opponents of the boycott repeat the charge, as if by tedious dint of repetition they could make it stick."

      Such irrational repetition is a standard last line of defense for those who are trying to SHUT DOWN true academic inquiry, inquiry based on facts and reason.

      They are like slaveholders arguing that ending slavery would deprive them of their rights. They are desperately looking at a wide world through a pinhole.

      Thank you for this lucid account of the facts in this case. It is fitting that an association of language scholars would be leaders in seeing through language trickery. I sincerely hope the Modern Language Association proceeds with the institutional boycott.

  • 'NYT' bias amazes: long article about online incitement in Israel/Palestine only blames Palestinians
  • Defending Ellison, Jewish writers publish 'apartheid' description of Israel in 'Slate' and 'Washington Post'
    • Reading this article I'm extremely optimistic that the balance has tipped, the trajectory has turned. Numerous incisive descriptions of reality by these writers. This is all great news!

      "that’s the physics of our policy"

      The physical reality is indeed what matters. A related part of the physical machinery that needs correcting with respect to donors is discussed here:
      http://mondoweiss.net/2014/09/rabbis-criticize-donors/

      The Mondoweiss archives, documenting and analyzing, will be an invaluable resource for historians of the future.

  • I hereby chuck my right to Jewish national self-determination
    • "The Palestine Annexation Law which passed 1st reading today in the Knesset is a windfall opportunity for snapping the trance about Israel"

      On the one hand it's hard to see how such a major event would not get serious coverage in the mainstream media. On the other hand ...

    • Thanks for this excellent article, systematically cutting through the barrage of "apocalyptic language aimed at narrowing acceptable debate and stifling an honest conversation." So much stifling, so much hidden history, so much secret stuff.

  • Washington Post promotes shady website attempting to smear independent journalism as Russian propaganda
  • Groundswell for Ellison signals end of the era of political assassination by Israel lobby
  • It’s junket season again in Massachusetts
  • Arab Bedouins expelled for second time to make way for new Jewish community
    • Israel's action is a blatant thumb in the eye of the international community, and all modern standards of justice and decency.

      But it fits the view that the purpose of Israel's religion-based, bigoted policies is to incite violence and war. Israel was financed by experienced war profiteers, e.g. "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror", and Israel has been a war zone since its inception.

  • More than half of US aid 'to entire world' goes to Israel and it ignores our warnings on settlements -- Kerry
    • echinococcus,

      Sounds like you might have an interesting time-travel story there.

    • Sibiriak,

      "What do you think that X will be?"

      Based on Kerry's warning, it would include a cessation and reversal of land thefts, AKA "settlements".

      echinococcus,

      You may be right. You certainly have the trend of history behind your conclusion. But changes do happen. Lincoln tried in every way to avoid the Civil War. But once it began he went in full bore.

    • Kerry took the trouble to inject the "biased and unfair" qualification in his answer. It seemed to me he was thus avoiding a blanket promise to oppose any and all resolutions critical of Israel. This could be especially true for the criticisms he himself laid out in this interview.

    • That's also how I saw it, watching last night on C-SPAN:
      https://www.c-span.org/video/?419451-1/secretary-state-john-kerry-discusses-challenges-middle-east

      It reminded me of the conversation an employer has with an employee, giving them one last chance before firing them. The offenses are laid out specifically and clearly. If the employee does not then make a course correction, that's the end. The employer can truthfully say they gave the employee every chance.

      Kerry delivered this message firmly, but also in the most sympathetic way humanly possible. I would call it "groveling" in a way no American Secretary of State should ever have to do.

      And all the weapons money this administration has given Israel solidifies their claim of having given Israel every chance. There will be no basis for Israeli complaints or further chances when the hammer comes down. The administration's case will be ironclad.

      And all that weapons money will be utterly useless against international sanctions.

  • Obama would have overwhelming support from US public to allow UN establishment of Palestinian state
    • I think what Josh meant was that increasing numbers of Americans are upset at being kept in the dark, dragged around by the nose, and plundered by a criminal, pipsqueek state with a vast mountain of accumulated money at its disposal.

  • A missing piece of the puzzle of Trump's victory: the 2003 invasion of Iraq
    • Thanks for the interesting links Annie.

      It seems to me the Syria issue was a major immediate concern, but a major part of the reason for that was the preceding disaster in Iraq. And as time goes on more people are realizing the disaster in Iraq was due to it's being a manufactured war for the benefit of a few at the expense of the many. In this respect it was like that other recent disaster, the Great Recession, also benefiting the few at the expense of the many. The increasing awareness of this larger pattern, it seems to me, underlies the political tectonic plate shifts we are seeing.

    • A great many Americans do not believe the official reasons given for the Iraq war. The oligarchy media keeps hammering the view that doubting the official story is a crazy conspiracy theory. Oligarchy media pundits (e.g. Willie Geiss at Morning Joe) dutifully parrot this presumption. But the internet has made available an overwhelming amount of evidence that has been kept out of the oligarchy media. Their hold is slipping. Now they are making a major effort to discredit websites that reveal and discuss the truth. One such site is Consortium News, which has an excellent article on this latest McCarthyist, Orwellian move.
      https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/01/the-orwellian-war-against-skepticism/

  • US Senate quickly passed the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
  • 'Make this my dream as well' -- in historic appearance, Palestinian offers one-state vision to a NY temple
    • Your skepticism is well-founded. The powerful financial forces behind conflict will fight claw and fang, simply to stay out of jail. On the other hand, a pebble can start an avalanche. First a bunch more pebbles, then bigger rocks, then boulders.

    • Excellent point. Controlling people's knowledge of history has ALWAYS been a key tactic in controlling people's thinking, from ancient times. Making a break with this practice will probably require a great face-saving operation, possibly along the lines of Nelson Mandela's Truth & Reconciliation program. It seems to me people will have to stop thinking they are their ancestors, and realize they are just themselves.

    • Completely agree! Merely reading this article brought tears to my eyes.

  • FL State Sen. Dwight Bullard opposed an anti-BDS measure -- and lost his job
    • Completely agree. Money versus morality. The Israelis are gangsters influencing American elections. This story is multiplied across the country. America's democracy is truly in peril.

  • Deborah Lipstadt's double standard on white nationalism and Jewish nationalism
    • I suspect the MW editors feel that would be a bridge too far for the Jewish audience they are trying to reach. At least at this time.

      I agree with you that is what the country needs to learn.

    • The recent LIBOR scandal is conclusive PROOF that international bankers DO conspire against the public.

  • David Brooks's drumbeat: an 'expansive foreign policy'
    • Candidate Trump said bluntly that President Bush "LIED" America into the Iraq war. And while the oligarchy servants flipped out, the Republican voter base largely agreed. Brooks should look into the evidence on the internet that the oligarchy's media voices have tried to dismiss. More and more people are doing an end-run around Brooks and his cohorts. For readers who haven't seen it, a fairly short, well-substantiated entryway is online in "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror".

    • Brooks' "Reasonable Man persona" is spot on. The "Reasonable Man persona" is a stock tool in the Republican cover-up strategy. It helps avoid any actual analysis of the facts and logic. It's a way to tell viewers, "Here's a reasonable person approximately on your wavelength, so you can trust his conclusions". Unsubstantiated conclusions are wrapped in phrases like "I'm not so sure that ..." and "I'm concerned that ...", implying modesty, open-mindedness, and compassion. On the PBS Newshour Brooks might engage a discussion of BDS thus:

      Brooks: Full disclosure, I get gooey when I think of Israel, and my son is in the Israeli army. That being said, I'm not sure BDS really helps the Palestinians. I'm concerned it may actually work against their interests ...

  • Tulsi Gabbard's screw-the-neocons meeting with Trump sparks anger, derision, encouragement
  • Sanders says fight among Democrats is to go 'beyond identity politics' and stand for all working people
    • Even though the oligarchy knocked him down, Bernie established himself as a voice that cannot be ignored. A very valuable voice.

  • Trump aide blows off Zionist gala, and Dershowitz warns that politicizing Israel means 'we could lose'
    • RoHa, Thanks for the link to the Issac Issacs material. It's very much like Montagu's memorandum.

      yonah, Herzl could have been baptized, and written a book promoting that, but he did not. You agree that the physical energy for a Jewish state came from Eastern European Jews, not Western European Jews. Why? Because as per the links above to writings by Edwin Montagu and Issac Issacs, Western European Jews were successfully assimilating. Hungarian Jews were granted full equality in 1895. French Jews already had been under Napoleon. A main concern of Napoleon was usery, predatory financing, which he recognized was not practiced by all Jews.

      On the other hand, Eastern European Jewish communities were much more traditional religious communities. They torpedoed the idea of a Jewish state in Uganda or South America or anywhere but Palestine. Their political decendents today are the "settlers" in Israel and Palestine. The "settlers" today exhibit rampant Jewish supremacism and its accompanying anti-goyism.

      jon s, Herzl expresses contradictory positions in his effort to wrap predatory behavior in noble ideals. Many people have done this through history. Herzl is vague about how the Jews will actually create a Jewish state in Palestine, and claimed it would be no problem. Other people, including Zionist Ahad Ha'am, saw the use of force and war as inevitable to create a Jewish state. Because Palestine was NOT "a land without a people", and the so-called "settlers" were not actually settling an uninhabited land.

      I suspect Herzl had a mix of emotions, attitudes, and views, possibly like "liberal Zionists" today. Some of these are simply incompatible. Equal justice for all is incompatible with one ethnic group being "special".

    • rosross, I agree completely. Thanks for your examples from other cultures. "Ethnicism" in general is the problem. (The universe and its problems do not revolve around Judaism.)

    • yonah,

      Herzl did say,

      "Wherever we remain politically secure for any length of time, we assimilate. I think this is not praiseworthy ..."

      "We are a people — one people."

      "Israel is our unforgettable historic homeland ..."

      Herzl's thinking is a mixed bag. On the one hand he envisions a "Palace of Peace" in Jerusalem that mediates international disputes. On the other he proposes getting rid of Palestinians to create Israel. "We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our country." He doesn't say how the Palace of Peace would mediate the conflict between the dispossessed Palestinians and the incoming Jews because he doesn't think there will be a problem. Other observers correctly foresaw war.

      He doesn't consider the possibility that his arrogant attitude toward Palestinians might be a factor in problems between Jewish and goyim communities, and blames such conflicts entirely on groundless hostility toward immaculate victims. This is the same attitude as that of Ayelet Shaked, Netanyahu, and numerous other Israeli officials.

      Your conclusion that I am motivated by hatred of Jews is incorrect. It looks to me like a hair-trigger reaction to an aspect of the situation you don't want to look at. This is a very human reaction. But progress toward peace will not be made by denying reality in favor of ethnic myths.

      rhkroell,

      Regarding Herzl's "rage" at Edwin Montagu, Montagu wrote a memorandum explaining why he, and most Western European and American Jews at that time (Herzl was Eastern European), opposed the idea of a Jewish state. Whatever one may think of his conclusions, his arguments are AT LEAST as grounded in reality as Herzl's (I think more so), and expressed in a coherent and civilized way. His memorandum is equally relevant today, and is here:
      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15584.htm

    • Another exceptionally insightful article by prize-winning investigative reporter Robert Parry at Consortium News, this one on Trump's meeting with anti-neocon Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, in Trump’s Tulsi Gabbard Factor
      https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/21/trumps-tulsi-gabbard-factor/

    • "anti-Semitism is the generator and ally of Zionism"

      Actually, anti-goyism was the main generator of Zionism. Herzl pushed for a Jewish state to stop the assimilation of Jews, who were being successfully accepted in Western Europe. Herzl was a Jewish supremacist and segregationist. Assimilation was his catastrophe.

      "When 'Jewish contributors' influence the outcome of a media campaign, we should declare a victory of truth over falsity."

      That declaration would be one more brazen Zionist lie. The level of brazenness is breathtaking.

    • Interesting segment on Morning Joe today on Steve Bannon. It opens with a clip of Israeli ambassador Ron Dermer saying, "Israel has no doubt that president-elect Trump is a true friend of Israel, ... and we look forward to working ... with all the members of the Trump administration, including Steve Bannon".

      Then has a clip of Jonathan Greenblatt, ADL CEO, saying, "This guy created Breitbart, essentially as a haven for the alt-right, a band of white supremacists who hate immigrants, Jews, Muslims, African-Americans, anyone who doesn't comport to their notion of white supremacy".

      The panelists disagree on whether the Trump trajectory is out of control or carefully planned. Another clip has Bannon likening Trump to Andrew Jackson, a populist president with rude supporters who took on the big banks for their pillaging of the public.

  • General under consideration by Trump for Defense has slammed Israel for impending 'apartheid'
    • Thanks for the link to that Mattis interview. He sounds like a pretty thoughtful guy.

      In another interview he says of the Taliban, "Their views of tolerance for people who think differently are fundamentally different than ours." About 14:58 in

      His comment is also true of the Zionists. Israel is a state dedicated to the proposition that all men are NOT created equal. It has managed a cover-up of that reality for decades.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/a-history-of-silencing-israeli-army-whistleblowers-from-1948-until-today/

      U.S. support for radical Jewish terrorism is the plain cause of the blowback at the U.S. from the Muslim world. It is the plain cause of the "radicalization" of Muslims, which so "baffles" American pundits. In reality, they only appear to be baffled. Actually they are simply not allowed to investigate or report on the plain roots, on pain of economic ruin and character assassination.

    • Thank you for bringing that up. Tragically, this realization is not new. Back in the 1940's the U.S. Secretaries of Defense and State (along with MANY knowledgeable people) warned that if the U.S. supported the severe injustices required to establish Israel, there would be serious blowback from the Muslim world at the U.S. That is exactly what has happened. They were overruled by the financial power of Zionists in U.S. politics. For readers who haven't seen it yet, more information on how it happened is online in "War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror".

    • "Blind" is indeed the operative term.

  • I'm not worried about anti-Semitism

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