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Kaisa of Finland

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  • 'Someone is paying Trump to do it' -- Pompeo elevation shows neoconservative lock on foreign policy
  • Rabbi Cardozo: outlawing circumcision would 'end the state of Israel'
  • In Gaza
    • Misterioso, your comment reminded me of this article:

      "Who profits from keeping Gaza on the brink of humanitarian catastrophe?"

      "..Israeli security regulations require aid organizations to use Israeli transportation companies and vehicles, since Palestinian companies are not allowed to enter Israel to pick up goods from airports or sea-ports. Even more significant is the fact that the Palestinians do not have their own currency or central bank: financial assistance must be given in New Israeli Shekels. The foreign currency remains in the Bank of Israel, and Israeli commercial banks collect numerous service charges along the way.

      What this means, in fact, is that Israel exports the occupation: as long as the international community is willing to contribute financially to prevent a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, Israeli companies continue to supply them with goods and services and receive payment in foreign currency."

  • Nine reasons Israel is not a 'progressive paradise'
    • Eljay:

      "Once you Zionists have praised the “Jewish State” as a “moral beacon”, a “light unto the nations”, a “Western-style democracy” and a “progressive paradise”.."

      Just today, I was - for a change - watching the Finnish Evangelical TV-channel and their pro-Israel programs and if you want to hear some praising of Israel as a "progressive start up-nation" which will surely save the whole world, I recommend watching this (Some adds in Finnish might appear in the beginning, but the program is in English):

    • I wrote:

      "The opinions of a one Kurdish state varies a lot.."

      And I should have written:

      "The opinions of a one Kurdish state varies a lot AMONG THE KURDS.."

    • And there are lots of strong women in the "Kurdish freedom movement".
      (Proud to say, this girl grew up in Finland :) )

    • "and i’m not really clear how syria oppresses their kurdish citizens, if at all.."

      We have lots of Kurds living in Finland and all the Nordic countries (from Irak, Iran, Syria, Turkey), cause they have been oppressed everywhere in the Middle East. In some point of time (I don't know if it is still the same) the Syrian Kurds were not allowed to speak Kurdish or even give Kurdish names to their children.

      The opinions of a one Kurdish state varies a lot and atleast at the moment, the focus is on getting freedom and autonomy (self-determination) on those different traditional Kurdish areas. The dream of a one united Kurdistan maybe in the future.

  • AIPAC panics over progressives abandoning Israel
    • Kaisa of Finland March 8, 2018 at 7:51 pm

      "And you want to change citizenship laws in Europe because of one person .."

      No I do not need to change them, they are already there.

    • Kaisa of Finland March 8, 2018 at 7:37 pm


      "So all that is OK.."

      No it is not ok, and if you knew something about the EU politics, people will be sued, if they are spreading hate speech (also in Germany). F.ex. about Poland and Hungary there have been talked about sanctions since those countries recieve a lot of money from EU, but do not wish to follow certain main values of it. So something will be coming, now when Germany finally got their goverment somehow organized. And remember, critizing immigration policies or other forms of politics, is not a crime, but simply spreading hate speech is.

      And what is really interesting here is, that you are ready to mock and "deride" and laugh at the Palestinians for their limited possibilites and freedoms in their lives and their attempts to oppose the oppressing forces, but immidiately when someone threatens to limit your freedoms, because of your behavior, look how worried you suddenly got.. (Can I almost hear you weeping??)

      I mean, the world is not about you Cat, it is about so many other people. And I really can't understand why you can't just be happy and enjoy of what you have got - you keep telling us how much you have already.. Wouldn't it be time to start sharing instead all of that mockery?? Like what did the Palestinians ever do to you anyway??

    • Kaisa of Finland March 8, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    • Kaisa of Finland March 8, 2018 at 4:16 pm

      Dear Cat, spreading hatefull speech about/towards a folk group is another thing than critizing or opposing politics. You are not just opposing BDS, you are simply enjoying the suffering of the Palestinians and that is disgusting.

      Spreading hate speech towards/about a folk group is a crime in EU, so you better stay in your safe haven in the New Mexico. As I wrote to you earlier, you should concentrate on making it even a better place to live.

    • Kaisa of Finland March 8, 2018 at 1:55 pm

      "I can live and work anywhere in the EU as long as I am alive.."

      Well, since you have lived outside EU for so long time and have a citizenship to another country you can be banned entering EU, if so decided.

    • "If I am understanding you correctly, you suggest that the EU deprive individuals from citizenship based on what? Posts on social media?.."

      Why not Cat (not deprive from citizenship, but ban entering the area..), that is exactly what Israel is doing with supporters of BDS, even suing them in the court. Why wouldn't we in EU use the same methods Israel is using??

      I wish you would use your extra energy to make New Mexico one of the best places in the world to live. Much more usefull than write "sardonic" comments about people, who already live in distressing surroundings and under opression.

    • Kaisa of Finland March 7, 2018 at 9:13 pm

      Cat, I really wish you watch that video above. The sadist in you must love it.

    • Kaisa of Finland March 7, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    • Kaisa of Finland March 7, 2018 at 9:01 pm


      "I am going to live in Ireland. Remember, I am an EU citizen too.. ..See, my options are pretty decent. I speak Italian too so that’s where I would go on vacation.."

      Well, my only wish is that till the time you retire, EU has already banned all supporters of the Zionist occupation in I/P to live/enter the area of EU (just like Israel is banning the supporters of BDS).

      With your attitude, it is better you retire in West Bank. I am sure Hebron would be best for you. Then you can see what you have been supporting all along and maybe join the other settlers throwing stones at the Palestinians.

  • Iran wants to annihilate 6 million Jews -- Netanyahu's Munich rant, interrupted
    • Gamal, you made me remember this video.. It was made more than 3 years ago, but has anything gotten better, or has it all just gone worse.. ??

  • Israelis disfigure Damascus Gate with steel watchtower
  • 'I faced my Jewish racism' -- an alumnus's call to Jewish students for Israeli Apartheid Week
    • Jon66:

      "The majority of Palestinians in Jordan have Jordanian nationality, but still define themselves as refugees with a right of return. So, having citizenship and nationality elsewhere does not seem to negate the refugee status.."

      The majority (if not all) of the Jewish (non-Israelian citizens) people living outside Israel have a citizenship/nationality of an another country, still they consider themselves living in "diaspora" and having a "right to return" to Israel. What is different?? The Palestinians living in diaspora can often show the exact place where they or their family comes from (used to live before the Nakba). So what is your point??

  • A plea for Ahed Tamimi’s protection
    • "And the evangelical Christian Zionists spend half their time defending and supporting a Jewish Israel as a sign that Christ is soon to return.."

      And specially in U.S. their "beliefs" are not to be understood: I have seen same people preaching about Jesus (grace and forgiveness) and defending their right to own guns. I mean Jesus and guns.. Not the combination I was taught about the Christianity when I was a child.. ("The one without sin among you should be the first to throw a stone at her.", "But I tell you, don't resist an evildoer. On the contrary, if anyone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.." etc.)

  • Video: Susiya calls for greater international solidarity to stop demolitions following Israeli high court decision
  • 'Preparing the hearts' - how the Temple Mount movement works towards their goal of building the Third Temple over the ruins of Al Aqsa
  • Zionism's tailspin: Stark minority of young California Jews are 'comfortable with idea of Jewish state'
    • "Did they just sort of back down to a democratic socialism.."

      Heh heh.. (I'll better stay silent on this subject..)

    • John O:

      "’s a link.."

      That is encouraging, if thinking about the future.

      I have to ask you one more thing about Britain..

      I just read about this in the news here:

      Do you think there is some potential in this??

    • Keith, just to give you an example..

      If you had read this article:

      “Martin Schulz wants ‘United States of Europe’ within eight years”

      And made an assumption, that that is the goal of the EU in the near future, it would have been a false assumption, since that is just Martin Schulz’s and might be Macron’s dream, but as I wrote before, there are 28 member states, so it might be easier wanted than done. Atleast most of the Nordics oppose the "U.S.E.", so if it is going to be United States of Europe, I would dare to “predict” it is going to be without the North.

    • Keith, that is one article in one news paper. Always try to look for several sources of information of the same subject: One journalist or an analyst can say one thing, but there are 28 member states with their own interests in EU, so things won't be changed very easily.

      " is difficult to continue to have one foot on the train and the other on the platform..”

      This was your own assumption.

      When the Germans get their new goverment working, we will see what will be the next things on the table sbout EU. Atleast the on going Brexit negotiations, the refugee issue and the enviromental issues such as pollution and the climate change.

    • Keith:

      As I see it, if the system is rotten, wouldn't it me more usefull for everyone to try to "ally" with as many other "non-elite" voters as possible and oppose the whole system together, demand a change of the whole system.

      I am only happy for our "multiparty" system, where the votes will always be shared among several different parties and the power can not "accumulate" to certain few of the privileged. I can warmly recommend it.

    • RoHa:

      "I will say that I see no wrong in controlling and restricting immigration. Special arrangements should be made for refugees, but even that does not imply an open-door policy.."

      I agree. It became a mess, 'cause all of the people were not refugees, there were people who had lost their papers on purpose and lied as much as they could, so it disturbed the process for those who really were asylum seekers.

      In last August here in Finland a Moroccan guy stabbed 10 people in the name of Islam. He had come as "an asylum seeker", but (as later found out) had actually had several identities/crimes in Germany already before he came to Finland. (And I can confirm this news is true, I was just 15 minutes away from the place, when it happened.)

      So as I think I have written here before, I think the asylum seekers should be "chosen" directly form the refugee camps, when their identity and background could be "determined" easier.

    • Thanks Annie for clarification! My thought rather was that if the system is "rotten", it isn't usefull to blame the co-voters - they just choose from the canidates they've been given - and as it looks like to me, the problem in U.S. is in the system. Anyway, thanks!

    • "And loyal Clinton Democrats like Mooser go along.."

      But Keith, are you not for democracy?? In a democracy people have their freedom to vote for whom ever they choose and not to be bullied or mocked for their choise.

      I have friends who vote for parties, I'd never vote for, but hey, that is how a democracy works. If everyone would vote as you wished, I guess that would be a dictatorship arranged by you then??

    • Keith, try this:

      UK and Euro

      "The EU has accepted that Sweden is staying outside the eurozone on its own decision. Olli Rehn, the EU commissioner for economic affairs has said that this is up to Swedish people to decide."

    • Keith:

      " force Britain to join the Eurozone .."

      But where is your evidence on that?? I have not heard about such thing. In each of those no-Euro countries there has been a referendum on if to join or not and as far as I know in Denmark, Sweden and UK the NO side to Euro won. Also the political parties in each country have had different opinions about if to join or not, so it has been part of their domestic politics.

      " is difficult to continue to have one foot on the train and the other on the platform.."

      It is a bit disturbing that you represent your own assumptions as facts here:

      I have already once explained to you that the member states are allowed to have very different solutions on different things, f.ex. look at Sweden, Denmark and Finland, all part of EU: Finland part of Eurozone, not part of NATO, Sweden not part of Eurozone, not part of NATO, Denmark part of NATO, not part of Eurozone, just to give you a simple example.

      I barely comment the politics in U.S. cause I do not know enough about it. You have very strong opinions about the politics in EU, I would be very happy to hear about your sources, where does this information of yours come from?

      No-one is claiming that EU functions perfectly, but it is a union of its member states, so it is clear that if the solutions are not made voluntarily and together, the union will not last.

    • "84% of refugees are in the “developing” world no European countries make the top 10.."

      Agreed, I think John O was refering to those reaching the shores of South Europe..

      If talking about the refugees, the past years have just been a brutal chaos: People drowning, disapearing, living as paperless immigrants on the streets.. There was no system to handle such large amount of asylum seekers at the time they started to arrive to Europe and that is why the whole thing just became a big mess. Nothing to be proud of.

    • RoHa:

      "Why is the Northern Ireland border question so hard?"

    • Keith:

      "..up until now Britain has not been required to be in the Eurozone. There would have been consequences for that.."

      What consequenses?? Could you please give some clear examples of those consequenses??
      Denmark and Sweden are not part of the Eurozone and as far as I know, have no intention to join it in the near future. There has not been any special consequenses for that, if not counted the natural consecuenses that their currency is more flexible since they are not tied with Euro.

    • Sorry, I forgot to mention a very important issue: The border between Ireland and North Ireland. What will be the solution (outcome) for that when/if Brexit really happens..?

    • Annie:

      I have to join the discussion just to say, that EU is not comparable with U.S. It is not a federation and each country has its own solutions in many cases (like their defence forces, if they are part of Euro or not etc.). Also in EU no big decisions can be made unless all the member countries agree, so that is why there are lots of issues, that "stay on the table" without any solution, f.ex. what to do with the asylum seekers arriving to south Italy and Greece. The East-European countries have "declared" that they will not take any immigrants from the Muslim countries, so even when in the EU the plan was to "share" the asylum seekers from the South Europe to all of the EU countries, it can not be done, cause EU can not force the East European countries to do such thing against their will.

      I am not happy for Brexit, simply for knowing too many couples with one parent from Britain, one parent from Finland and several under aged children. Also I know many Finns living in Britain and vice versa so the Brexit will make all their lives much more complicated as for so many Brits wanting to move/work/study/live freely on the area of EU.

      Also now when Britain is leaving, it is changing the balance inside the EU and (if I have undrstood correctly) Macron would be happy to join certain politicians in Germany and lead EU closer to a federation - which I absolutely oppose - where as (if I have understood correctly) the Brits also were not so keen on the idea of a tighter EU, so in many ways the Brexit will have long term effects we can only quess.

      (My language is not good enough for a conversation like this, but I think most of the EU members still silently hope in our minds that Brexit will not happen anyway.. Maybe on paper, but practically no.. )

  • Reminder: They got Capone on tax evasion
    • A very good cartoon, thanks :) !!

      Netanyahu with his corruption allegations were in the news in Finland and Denmark too yesterday and the comment which came with it was something like: "And he has no intention to resign.."

      "The only democracy in the Middle East" shows its true face again.

  • Israel’s Justice Minister endorses apartheid -- the Jewish state 'at the expense of equality'
    • Cat:

      " I have never shot with a gun.."

      Maybe not, but you seem to be the one who encourages others to do it and after the dirty work has been done, you'll wash your hands and say: "I had absolutely nothing to do with it, I was just expressing my opinion.."

  • Sentenced to 65 years for helping Palestinians: Read an excerpt from Miko Peled's 'Injustice: The Story of the Holy Land Foundation Five'
    • Jackdaw:

      "Kaisa. Have you ever visited the region? Lived here?.."

      Yes, in one point of time I thought I would stay there for the rest of my life. It took me some time to discover what really is going on in the area and after that there was no possibility I could have stayed there anymore. You can read more details in my previous posts.

    • Jackdaw:

      "He said.."

      If you were talking about me, it is a she..

      "..political prisoners.."

      As I see it, everything what comes to the conflict of I/P is political: The settlers throwing stones at the Palestinians, the IDF soldiers bullying the Palestinians at the check points, a Palestinian smuggling cell phones to other Palestinians in the jail..

      There is very little "unpolitical" happening in I/P.

    • End January 2018 Israel held in total 6,119 Palestinian political prisoners in its jails:

      - 450 without trial/charges (in administrative detention)

      - 330 children

      - 59 female prisoners

      - 11 lawmakers


  • Pro-Israel Democrats concede 'human rights' issue is killing the brand
    • "Why do you think repeating it interminably will advance your argument?.."

      I think repeating it will just make people yawn.

    • (I am sorry, this is how my head works..)

    • "Jews had been persecuted for centuries.."

      Jack, copy/pasting the same comment again and again, raises the question: Are you a human or a robot??

  • Israeli paper's publication of BDS ad marks beginning of society's return to sanity
    • "Like when you prevent girls from seeing a concert..."

      After I "couchsurfed" in West Bank, visting some random Palestinians who wanted to open their homes to a stranger and after experiencing the practices at the check points, thinking about going to a rock concert on the other side of the wall would never have crossed my mind.

      You have no idea what you are talking about, when you are crying about some teenage girls not going to a rock concert. Let them live for half a year in a Palestinian family as a part of their real life and maybe some change will start to happen.

      When I got back to "my home" in Israel's side, I knew immidiately, my time in Israel was over. Just thinking about a nice comfortable shabbat barbecue in a "well trimmed" park after WB made me sick. A rock concert in Tel Aviv is like you were keeping a prisoner in your bathroom while enjoying a cocktail party in your living room. Smily, happy, people laughing. Sorry, no sympathy from me.

    • Catalan,

      A Finnish friend of mine has two children with an Israelian Jewish man (very pro-Israel) and although the children now have lived several years in Finland with their mother, I guess that eternal conflict in Israel is part of their inheritance too, since half of their family/relatives live in Israel.

      I love these children and I would never talk about the politics of I/P around them, they are too sensitive and too young to know. But what will happen when they grow up, find out about the truth and if the situation still is not solved and more and more brutal things have been done, will these kids one day be treated as the Germans for so many decades with collective guilt and all that awfull stuff, just because of something people distantly related to them did to other people somewhere else?? This conflict is about so many people - so many different kind of people - and about so many people's future and destinies, that I have no abilty to understand or find any point in your comments like the one above. Simply being mean does not serve anyones cause.

    • "The best way to respond to BDS .."

      I think Cat, you just want the attention.. As we know, often the worst bulliers at school are the ones who did not recieve any love, care and attention from their parents or other members of the family and that is why they use their time throwing their own negative emotions and pressures on to other people.

      You need some love Catalan.

  • Thomas Friedman justifies slaughter of Arab civilians by 'crazy' Israel
    • (Just waiting for the response from Israel.. A lawsuit??)

    • "Whats up with Scandinavia? Trump doesn’t want Blacks and Latinos in the USA but would welcome more Norwegians.."

      I mean, is Trump really aware of what he wants??

      "The International Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions Movement that seeks to end the Israeli occupation of Palestine and Israeli human rights violations through economic pressure has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

      The nomination was made by Bjornar Moxnes, a member of the Norwegian Parliament and leader of the Red Party, on Friday.

      A release issued by Moxnes stated: “as a member of the Norwegian parliament, I proudly use my authority as an elected official to nominate the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian rights for the Nobel Peace Prize."

    • " should pay a visit to Poulsbo, Washington State.."

      I have no idea about that place, but if it is anything like this, maybe it tells something about Mr. Trump..

    • ..And why would immigrants riot about NATO in Sweden?? Sweden is not a NATO country.. Very confusing.. And I have not heard the immigrants rioting in Denmark or Norway either and those countries are NATO members.. Where do all this information come from.. ?? FOX NEWS??

    • "Whats up with Scandinavia? Trump doesn’t want Blacks and Latinos in the USA but would welcome more Norwegians.."

      This whole subject is disgusting, but all though Finland is not considered as a Scandinavian country (a Nordic, yes, a Scandinavian, no), I would say, Mr. Trump does not know what he is even talking about. A big majority of the Scandinavians (Nordics) would never vote for him: He is all against the Nordic "ideal" of the welfare state (high taxes, free and equal education and health care system for everyone etc.) So why would anyone want to move from here to the Trump's U.S.A.??

    • "where Sweden, especially, is torn by immigrant riots over unemployment and anger at the NATO countries who aided the US in sacking their native lands.."

      Never heard. I think I would have, if there was some.

      There are some problems with gang criminality and violence in certain suburb areas in Sweden, but:

      "..researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. This means factors such as parents' incomes, and the social circumstances in the area in which an individual grew up."

      Read facts about migration, integration and crime in Sweden:

      (Published 23 February 2017 · and updated 18 January 2018)

  • Trump calls Egypt, Afghanistan, Turkey and Jordan 'enemies of America' for Jerusalem vote
    • Btselem just published this video today:

      "Exploiting Palestinian Land for Treatment of Israeli Waste"

      "Israel turned the West Bank into a garbage dump: exploiting its power and the fact that the Palestinian population is completely excluded from the decision-making process, to divert a significant part of the waste and hazardous substances produced within its borders for treatment in the West Bank.

      In this way, Israel is effectively having it both ways: seemingly increasing the amount of waste it treats, it actually does so by diverting the risks and pollutants onto Palestinian land and people.

      Waste treatment in the West Bank is simply one more facet of the exploitative policy Israel has practiced consistently for fifty years now, using Palestinian space and people to further its own interests. "

    • "might throw them with stones.."

      Okay, that was a straight translation from Finnish to English, but I guess in English it should have been: "might throw stones at them".. ??

    • RoHa:

      "So the US staff will have to drive down to Tel Aviv for the bash at the Japanese Embassy, stagger to the after-party at the Australian Embassy, and then drive back to Jerusalem in the early hours.."

      And if they wanted to have a drink at the terrace (of a bar) in the friday evening, a "true believer" might throw them with stones for breaking the shabbat.. (Yes, this happened to my friend in Jerusalem).

  • A Jewish 'sickness': Israeli journalist explains young American Jews' support for Palestinians
    • "And now I’m a trophy husband.."

      I wonder if this Swedish individual is in anyway related to you.. ?

  • I'm blacklisted and banned from Israel, but for many others this is nothing new
    • You know, when Emet, in one of his previous comments, wrote:

      "If the Palestinians want to return, let them return to an Arab country. They will be more at home there.."

      I was thinking: "We can take hummus and falafel and baba ganoush, but you yourself, we don't want.." Such a fair play.

  • 'Without UNRWA we have nothing': Palestinian refugees speak out against US aid cuts
    • Emet:

      "..If the Palestinians want to return, let them return to an Arab country.."

      So after using so much time, claiming that the Palestinians have the problem (with their victimhood and hate etc), now you are telling me that you are the one who does not want to share and go "hand in hand", but simply want them out, so you could have more?? Am I understanding correctly?? Or what else would be your reason to not to let them to return??

      "They will be more at home there.." ???

      And who gave you the authority to decide, where they feel at home??

      In Israel I knew this old Iraqi Jewish man (R.I.P.) who's parents had sent him to Israel as a child (for a better future??). He grew up in a kibbuz and all his life he missed Iraq. Every shabbat (of his adult life) he used to take his car and his son and drive up to the Druze and Arab villages to feel like home.

    • Emet:

      "Even the schools that UNWRA run teach the next generations that they are victims and they encourage the next generations to hate. ."

      What is it we hear the Zionist teaching to their kids about the victimhood and hate (and revenge..) ?? And what is it you are doing here all the time??

      Our Finnish correspondent - yes, the same who was not allowed to go to that event with Mike Pence, because she refused to take off her bra for an inspection:

      - just wrote an article about a school (Hand in Hand) in Jerusalem where the Jewish and the Palestinian (both Christian and Muslim) children all go together. There the history is taught from the both sides. I think that kind of a school might do good for you too.

    • " In all of history, there is no other case when the second generation of refugees are also regarded as refugees. Only with Palestinians is this the case.."

      But Emet, aren't the Zionists claiming that Jews living in Europe/U.S.A. and where ever outside Israel are something like 100th or 1000th generation of "refugees", living in "diaspora", waiting for their time to "return to their homeland"?? Where is the difference there?? (Except that those Palestinian refugees are often able to show the exact place they or their family used to live in.)

  • There are two narratives, but one reality: Palestinian dispossession
  • Palestinian legislators are 'dragged out' of Knesset as Pence promises embassy will move in 2019
    • Talking about ethnic profiling:

      This reminded me of something that happened when I was still living in Israel:

      A group of Finnish people wanted to come for a holiday to Israel and at the Tel Aviv airport a friend of mine (born and raised in Finland, with Finnish passport, but a Syrian name - mother Finnish, father Syrian) was taken aside and after hours of hearings sent back to Finland, because "she was not able to explain clearly enough the reason for her visit". All the other people, with Finnish passports and Finnish names, were let to enter to Israel.

      (Obviously this was the time I started to realize, Israel was something more than "the Mizrahim bubble" I had been living in.)

    • A Finnish journalist in Israel (grown up and raised in Finland, doesn't even speak Arabic):


      Jerusalem Foreign Press Association says journo of Pal descent was strip searched today at Pence event -"The repugnant practice of strip searching journalists puts Israel in a category all of its own and is a mark of shame for a country that boasts of its democratic credentials"

      (Check the link for the details..)

  • What's wrong with colonialism?
    • Eljay:


      Yes, 100% correct :) The language is suomi and the country is Suomi. (In Finnish only names of the countries are written with a capital letter - the languages and the people with small.. :) )

      "I really like the sound of the Finnish language.."

      I am very happy to hear that! When I lived in Denmark, my friends (and my host family) used to say, Finnish sounds like shooting with a machine gun :)

    • Steve:

      "Anti-Zionism=Anti-Semitism no matter how much JVP tries to bullshit that away.."

      That is your own opinion and I may fully disagree.

    • Eljay:

      "The rhyming sucks (again).."

      Indeed :) !! And for some reason after reading it, the song above started to play in my head.. (Allthough in that, the ryhming is perfect..)

    • "Eljay’s dazed and confused .."

      "Ah ja voi jo kauhistu, tämä on se suuri ahdistus.."

      ("Ah and oh, get horrified already, this is the great anxiety..")

  • PLO endorses BDS, makes unprecedented call for sanctions
    • Oldgeezer:

      Yes, check it out and see what they are spreading there. I only watch that channel to get as wide perspective on what is going on and what is said around the case Israel/Palestine in Finland. (I can use that info when arguing with some politicans.)

      I must add that - at the moment - we are having our presidental elections here (eight candidates for the first round and then the two with the most votes will go to the second round - unless someone gets over 50% of the votes at the first round). Anyway, we also have a candidate who represents the "nationalists" aka the "True Finns" - as they call themselves - (anti-immigration with rasist tones). Their candidate is a young woman, creationist (VERY unusual in Finland), openly admires Trump and - quess what - has declared herself as a friend of Israel. (No worries, her support is around 4 %..) But isn't it interesting how "anti-immigration with racist tones" so often goes with being a friend of Israel?? (Same in Denmark: Some members of the Danske folkeparti also are open supporters of Israel..)

      So nationalist, anti-immigration, racist and a friend of Israel, what a combination!

    • oldgeezer:

      Most of the Zionist stuff spread in Finland is produced by the Pentecostals and other Evangelicals. I asume this program can be shown in all private* Zionist channels there are in Europe.

      This TV7 works in Swedish, Estonian and Russian, so it is available through the internet atleast for the people who speak those languages. In Finland Evangelicals are a small minority, but as you said, the program is an incredible load of garbage and falsehoods (as is their channel in everything what comes to case I/P) and should not be let go through as it is. (Without a warning of "fake news".) Obviously the Zionists are worried about their future and that is why they need to use so much time and effort in spreading all this crap - as they even mentioned in the program themselves.

      *Private here means that it is dependent on private donors, so it can not in anymeans be taken as an "objective" or critical source of information.

    • The link about Denmark is here, I accidently added an earlier link twice:

    • Did people here know Israel has its own "NGO Monitor - Making NGOs Accountable"..

      "NGO Monitor is an independent and nonpartisan research institute dedicated to promoting transparency and accountability of NGOs claiming human rights agendas, primarily in the context of the Arab-Israeli conflict."

      "NGO Monitor is the leading source of information on political NGOs active in delegitimization campaign against Israel and the role of both government and private funders-enablers."

      "It was founded following the 2001 UN World Conference Against Racism held in Durban, South Africa, where NGOs adopted a strategy of using the instruments and language of “human rights” and “international law” to isolate Israel and undermine its right to sovereign equality."

      This is how they describe BDS:

      "BDS is the immoral collective punishment of Israelis and those who associate with them, undermining liberal values, such as academic freedom and freedom of expression, by restricting openness and tolerance."

      "BDS is the antithesis of universal human rights values, rooted in double standards that condemn a single country for isolation and pariah status. Through false comparisons to apartheid South Africa, BDS activists attempt to transform a political and territorial dispute into a question of racial discrimination."

      This NGO watch also works continuously trying to get EU states to cut their support to the NGO's dealing with the human right issues in the area of Israel/Palestine. Last year they together with Netanyahu were f.ex. pushing Danish government to cut their aid to different NGO's in the area.

      (In the Danish news, it was said though, that they will investigate the claims the NGO Monitor gave them, but did not make a permanent decision on the case).

      Anyway, together with European Coalition for Israel, they are doing all they can to clean the broken image of Israel.

      Here is an example of a program of ECI, shown on a privat Zionist channel in Finland, the program is in English and should be "watchable" outside Finland:

      (It may contain some ads in the beginning, but the program itself is in English!)

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    • Catalan:

      "the bds wishes me to suffer and in some cases to even die.."

      Please could you give some evidence of that?? The aim of the BDS is not to kill anyone and since you are living in U.S., how are the equal rights for the Palestinians in I/P going to make you suffer?? I am really interested in hearing your arguments on that!!

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    • RoHa:

      "Is that a kantele playing the accompaniment?"

      You know, I had never even thought about it before, so I had to listen to it carefully, but I think no. Maybe keyboards and a quitar, but at some point (?) it sounded quite close to it. (I noticed that I have always only focused on listening to the lyrics, so I had not paid any attention to the accompaniment before. How funny..)

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