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  • I want my country back
    • Early on P Obama mentioned he was noticing a shift in the U.S. attitude about the I/P issue. You can bet he or his people follow many websites including this one. Listen to Cspan's Washington Journal callers....repeating facts about the conflict. Accurate reporting in the Msm about the massacre in Gaza. Along with him having the foreign policy credits that both Biden and Kerry have under their belts. Bet his people are listening and documenting shift

      Jewish journalist and other journalist changing their reporting tunes slowly but surely. Reporting more honestly about the decades of failed negotiations, Israel's persistent building of illegal settlements etc

      Carter has said that Obama has never called him to consult about this issue. Too bad. Thought I have heard Obama or someone mention Dr. Zbig's input with the administration.

      Add to all of the signs that the wind has shifted to the fact that Obama seems to really get how Israel's unwillingness to stop building settlements, massacres are horrific but also seriously undermine not only Israel's security based on internationally recognized borders but the U.S.;s national security. He gets it.

    • Persistent comments by Richard Engel, others about the rift being about "personality differences" instead of substantive foreign policy differences. Never thought I would hear Engel selling such bunk. Expected out of Richard Haas but not Engel

    • Obama, Kerry, Biden dealing with decades of facts on the ground finally taking a solid and realistic stand. We are hearing Richard Engel, Richard Haas, now Chris Matthews, Bob Woodward, John McCain, and all of the expected folks asking why Obama seems to be playing hardball. He should stop "throwing tantrums" "accept Netanyau's apologies" etc etc.

      So respect that Obama is feeding the people the reality and not the spin. Finally!

    • Just on the BBC's World Service this morning they did a piece on how Saudi Arabia's decision to bomb could have partially been decided based on SA's wishes to undermine P5+1 negotiations with Iran too. The timing of all of this is suspicious.

      Allegedly Houthis are being supported by Iran. But how do they know this? Of course much more in the report.

    • Ritter has a piece up at Huff Po about Israel and espionage.

      Espionage, by Any Other Name | Scott Ritter - Huffington Post

      "The information reportedly collected by Israel was classified by the U.S. Government, making any effort to gain unauthorized access to it illegal under U.S. law, as would be any subsequent receipt and use of this information by anyone who does not possess both the appropriate security clearance and authorization. Any Israeli involved in the collection of such information would be a spy, and any American who knowingly gained unauthorized access to this information and used it on behalf of a foreign government to disadvantage the United States a criminal. This includes members of Congress not specifically cleared for this information but who received it as a result of briefings provided to them by representatives of the Government of Israel."

      Phil "I’ve never seen anything like this before: the top space of the newspaper turned over to a war- and fear-mongering foreign leader to undermine the US president."

      However we have seen the "top space" and front pages of the New York Bloody Times turned over to a war and fear mongering" administration motivated by oil, neo, theo cons. Judy "I was fucking right" Miller was able to sell that horrific invasion based on lies almost daily on the front pages. We have seen the NYBTimes promote the Israeli view and agenda for decades.

      Phil you have been spotlighting Jodi's foreign agent status for a long time.

  • On Netanyahu's apology to Palestinian citizens of Israel
  • Washington 'sits shiva' for the 2-state solution
    • Why Chris Matthews has Iraq warmongers like Bob Woodward on to talk about middle east policy is beyond anyone who followed the run up to the invasion. On top of that Woodward referred to the Plame outing as "much ado about nothing." He has made every effort to distract Americans on both of these issues. Why not have accurate middle east analyst on the program?

      Jodi Ruderon very much part of the come on Obama get back on the drag your feet while Israel builds more illegal settlements bandwagon that has flourished for decades. Obama, Kerry, Biden etc are making a much needed realistic stand. Not going to play Israel and the I lobbies game any longer.

      Phil Chris Matthews has been stepping out a bit on this issue but really think if you go and listen to some of Mika Brzezinski's challenging comments and questions this week you will find she is sticking her neck out much more than Matthews on this issue.

  • American Jews are taking back their power from Israel
    • Thanks lysia

    • JFK demanded Ben Gurion open up to international inspections which did not happen. How else would you say that Kennedy stood up to Israel?


      I think Obama is going the distance standing up to Israel and the I lobbies push for a military intervention with Iran

      And now making clear that Netanyahu's lack of real action (stop building illegal settlements and housing in E Jerusalem) on a 2ss speaks much louder than his words. For a two state solution before he was against before he was for web of deception

    • I think her brilliant father's well informed insights have had an influence. However Mika is sharp enough to come to her own conclusions. Watch her hold her tongue so often with Scarborough on these issues. She may feel the same safe opening that Chris Matthews is operating from. Also Scaborough gone this week. She has been ripping.

      Over and over hearing host and guest try to pass this rift between Obama and Netanyahu has "personal" Such hooey. There are extreme policy differences. Obama is the first President to take a firm and I believe constructive stand against Israel's undermining of U.S. National Security and ultimately their own. I really think Obama and Kerry are being sober and constructive friends to Israel. Like drawing the boundary with an addicted friend who is about to destroy themselves

    • Most American Jews and many others have kept the wall of silence intact for decades. Celebrating that this shift is happening is important. However inflating one groups more recent efforts over another groups efforts is not a good idea. Divisive and false

    • Baker did not tip toe several decades ago and demonstrated that once again in his most recent speech

    • Prof Cole has a zinger up at Informed Comment looking to 2030 in the region

    • Read once. Going to read again later.

      Phil: "But I believe that Jews drove the political shift.' This seems like an effort to inflate the efforts of one group over another for the "political shift." More recently Dem congressional black caucus members led the stance against attending BB's speech focused on undermining P5+1 negotiations. Some Jewish congressional members seemed to follow their lead.

      Why not say that the "political shift" is a confluence of many groups efforts to open up the debate based on facts to BDS, Christian groups, Jewish groups, congress people waking up, MSM outlets more willing to report the facts etc. Why elevate one particular group?

      Chris Matthews has become more outspoken. However as you have pointed out he waited until he felt totally safe that he would not be reprimanded or suffer some sore of consequences. He still repeats that in Israel everyone is free to say whatever they want about the circumstances. We know that is not the truth. Mentioning the Nakba now against the law etc. What would happen if a Palestinian went into a coffee house in Tel Aviv and started shouting about illegal settlements etc. What a myth he is pushing.

      First MSNBC host to step out on this issue was Chris Hayes when he was host of UP, Melissa Harris Perry has had numerous panels on this issue, Dylan Ratigan (his guest Glenn Greenwald took Cliff May down some years ago about the conflict etc) Chris Matthews has come out when he knows it is safe. His willingness now to play a bit of real hardball on this issue has been a long time coming. We don't need to make him some kind of hero or saint because he finally has done so. He has played it safe for a long time. Better late than never Chris. One thing he did do almost immediately after BB 's congressional speech was to say that no one has ever believed that BB "was never for the two state solution" That BB "kept upping the ante"

      Chris has been testing the waters a bit over the last year or so. But Chris Hayes, MHP, Dylan Ratigan led the way by having panels etc on these issues on their programs. Chris still refuses to have Hillary Mann Leverett on his program to help educate the public based on facts about Iran. Melissa Harris Perry has had her on at least four times on this issue since last summer. Matthews still has the same old same old safe MSNBC contributors on like Fineman, Corn etc. Have some real experts on. People who have been in administrations , are middle east experts and have actually negotiated directly with Iran. Chris is a follower on speaking out about this issue not a leader. Rachel, Al Sharpton, Ed etc are still following

      Mika Brzenski has really been playing hardball on this issue the last couple of mornings on Morning Joe (Scarborough not there) This morning she went off on guest asking why everyone is blaming Obama for the rift "what are you afraid of" ..."who will cut through the bs" She was really digging in.

  • Why did Herzog run scared? He fears the Israeli people
    • Most MSM guest blaming Obama for the rift. Have only heard Mika Brzezinski make a solid stand against this effort to spin the rift as a "personality" issue instead of what it is really serious foreign policy differences

    • Weiss "I believe he was afraid of his own people" Possibly facing that racism, support for the massacre in Gaza etc are far too alive and well in Israel.

      Phil, Annie, all MSNBC Mika Brzezenski is really playing hardball on Morning Joe in regard to the Netanyahu trying to walk his pre election rejection of a two state solution, racist words towards Arabs (which clearly reflect his actions) back. This morning she asked guest who were blaming Obama for the friction "who will help her cut through the bs" She asked "what are you afraid of."

      Richard Engel and Haas were also part of the team on Morning Joe the last couple of programs saying that the issue was a "personality" issue between Obama and BB. They seem to have a problem with admitting that there are serious policy differences. Serious differences.

      On Monday evening Chris Matthews was also playing closer to the facts about the friction.

  • Bill Maher justifies Netanyahu's racism by saying U.S. has done much worse
    • On foreign policy Maher is generally right wing. On domestic issues a true liberal/progressive. The basic tactic or stand of so many of our Dem Reps for decades.

      One of the best interviews ever with Maher is when he interviewed former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit Micheal Scheuer. Classic

      Although as of late Maher did an interview with Mercedes Schlapp and Jack Kingston (Just linked to ringoffire link that Max B had up) where Maher seemed to be promoting "let them (Muslims) kill each other" "commit suicide" because of religious rifts strategy. Which I have always believed is sort of a Sabra and Shatilla (divide and conquer) military strategy (which of course the U.S. has used many times too. Take down the containment walls, invade, do not provide safety valves, disband Iraq army and watch the place explode with death and destruction. That link that Just provided via Max B was a worthwhile watch

  • Netanyahu's victory ‐ what is the cost?
    • Maher seems to be pushing the classist, racist attitude promoted by the Iraq invasion. Take down the containment boundaries propped up for years by the U.S. in the region and foment the hatred by disbanding Iraq army creating more chaos, allowing rebel groups to take hold and spread. Back off a bit, let them kill each other. A Sabra and Shatilla military method. Extremely creepy. As if the U.S. has nothing to do with the death and destruction going on.

    • One of the reasons that I have always had a problem with the term "liberal Zionist' No way you can be both. Incompatible because of the core definitions of what Zionism is and has been acted upon. Racist at the core of the belief

    • Netanyahu finally said out loud what many have known for a very long time. Israel does not support a two state solution. His actions have always been much louder than the words.

      During his interview with Andrea Mitchell she allowed him to repeat the unsubstantiated claims that Iranian leaders have said they want to "wipe Israel off the map" Andrea did not challenge at all. She did not ask the Israeli leader why Israel has not signed the NPT and yet screams about Iran's legal right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes while Israel sits on massive stockpiles of nuclear biological and chemical weapons. Not a peep of real challenges out of Andrea.

      Last night on Hardball Howard Fineman went lower than I have ever heard he repeated the false claim that Iran 'wants to destroy Israel" Pathetic on Fineman's part. Was shocked.

      Hillary Mann Leverett has an incredible debate up about Iran on the Levertt's website Going To Tehran. A must listen

  • Who can save Israel now?
    • Last night (Friday) on Hardball (Jonathan Capehart in for Matthews) it was so disappointing to hear Howard Fineman claim that Iran has made "threats to destroy Israel." Fineman fell in line by repeating those lies. Sad

      Capehart keeps singing the praises of Starbuck's Howard Schultz efforts on the race issue here in the states. Seems to be completely aware or incapable of connecting the dots between Schultz full on economic support for whatever Israel does...and how racist it is

    • So sad to watch MSM host and guest always repeat the pledge of allegiance to Israel on programs. We know our Reps constantly back up a bit of criticism of Israel with "Israel is our bff" "our strongest ally" "unbreakable bond" yada yada.

      This morning Jonathan Capehart sitting in for Kornacki on MSNBC's Up said he is "hesitant to say" that the bond between the U.S. and Israel could be broken. Then one of the women on the panel (which had been talking about race issues) came out and said the pledge that the bond between the U.S. and Israel is "unbreakable." The Republican woman on the panel actually came out and said there are real policy "differences" between the Obama administration and Netanyahu. That the policy differences come first then the possibly personality rift between Obama and Netanayahu.

      I think Obama is the first President to really stand up to Israel based on their actions. I know 41 and Baker threatened to withhold aid etc. But Obama's stance is really standing out.

      Wondering if anyone has heard or read anything about how absurd and inconsistent Starbuck's Howard Shultz staunch support for Israeltotally contradict's his effort to focus on race issues here in the states

    • Prof Mearsheimer put the two state solution is dead into the clearest explanation I have ever heard years ago. Former President Jimmy Carter definitely inferred that the 2ss was over years ago but Mearsheimer said it out loud.

    • Mearsheimer explains better than anyone else.

      Prof. John Mearsheimer Analyzes Future of Israel/Palestine: Apartheid to Binational Democracy 1/6

      "Israel is not going to allow the Palestinians to have a viable state of their own in Gaza and the West Bank. Regrettably the two state solution is now a fantasy. Instead those territories will be incorporated into a greater Israel which will be an apartheid state bearing marked resemblance to white ruled South Africa."

    • Many of the better late than never crowd came out the last 10 years ultimately to save Israel based on the internationally recognized borders. They could see the way it was heading. Not necessarily committed to real human rights stances they could see the way the wind was shifting. The exposure of the apartheid state of Israel

    • Axelrod was busy on MSM outlets making excuses for Netanyau's racism and clear support of an apartheid Israel by saying BB was an incredible politician. Basically doing what he had to do to keep his spot.

      Scarborough made excuses for BB on his program this (Thursday) morning. He totally flipped the script...again. Scarborough "will the Palestinians be a willing partner" As if BB publicly saying what most of us all ready knew he does not support a "two state solution."

    • "A couple of years ago Beinart said that Zionism was in crisis. But that crisis for American Jews is over now. Zionism is what Netanyahu has shown us it is, in his frank calls on Jews to hold the land and deny the vote to non-Jews. This is what Palestinian intellectuals from Ghada Karmi to Edward Said to Raja Shehadeh to Lila Abu-Lughod to Saree Makdisi to Ali Abunimah, really the list is endless, have been telling us Zionism is for many years, and they have been marginalized and smeared for saying so."

      And some who have clung to the myths that the majority of Israeli's really and truly wanted two states are faced with hard cold facts. Those like Beinart who finally admitted their silence and complicity over the years are now faced with apartheid Israel staring them in the eyes daring them to admit this fact or roll over as they have in the past.

    • All of BB's actions have demonstrated that he has never supported a "two state solution." Now he has said it publicly. Many have known the two state solution was dead for quite some time. BB has said it publicly.

      Mearsheimer predicted this trajectory quite some time ago. The embedded apartheid system that is alive in Israel can no longer be hidden in the shadows.

  • Israelis go to the polls today--and nobody knows who will win (Updated)
  • Surging support for Palestine fuels JVP's biggest meeting yet
  • The farewell party of the mezuzah-kissers
  • Herzog and Netanyahu are likely to share power -- because Herzog won't share it with Arab List
    • A great deal being written about Israeli's being dissatisfied with economy etc. Does anyone think there is a possibility that they are concerned about the strong possibility that Israel will become even more isolated, that the BDS movement will continue to grow and that the embedded apartheid system will become more exposed?

      We know that polls showed that the majority of Israeli's approved of what went on in the Gaza this past summer. However the fact that the US MSM did not tip toe around the killing of several thousand Palestinians last summer and there was more outrage than ever before in the U.S. Does anyone think that this is getting to the average Israeli?

    • ok going to listen

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    • Thanks Just.

    • Phil/all..if you have not all ready read the WaPo opinion piece "War with Iran is probably our best option" an insane doozy. Comments section flying.

    • 13 Arab Israeli's Knesset Members right now? I think that is right.

  • Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support Iraq war
    • Barney voted yea on this anti Palestinian legislation
      link to

      How the Anti-Iran Lobby Machine Dominates Capitol Hill

      Neocon think tanks get millions from wealthy donors, which they use to game the system, buy influence—and push for regime change.
      Eli Clifton and Ali Gharib
      link to

      "Within Washington’s corridors of power, the institution that has done the most to focus attention on the alleged Iranian nuclear threat—Congress—has also been among the most skeptical when it comes to using diplomacy to do anything about it. But the members of Congress don’t come up with these ideas on their own. A handful of organizations—especially the FDD, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the American Enterprise Institute (AEI)—do most of the legwork in shaping policy. An even smaller network of right-wing donors funds these groups (see the sidebar below).

      * * *

      Over the past decade, this small network of advocates has become incredibly effective at getting its way. A 2010 bill slapping sanctions on foreign banks and companies doing business—especially oil business—with Iran passed the Senate 99–0, and a 2011 amendment sanctioning international companies dealing with Iran’s Central Bank passed 100–0. In 2012, another sanctions amendment passed the Senate 94–0, and a 2013 resolution backing Israel should it attack Iran was passed 99–0. “By far and away the most powerful voices are what you can term the hawkish groups on Iran policy,” says a former congressional aide."

    • Major shift. However needs to shift far more. Still know plenty of alleged human rights types who are terrified of taking a humanitarian stance. People who were involved with civil rights anti Vietnam etc etc. Incapable or unwilling to apply those same human rights standards to the I/P conflict.

    • Yes then Rep Frank did vote against the 2002 Iraq war resolution. And huge thanks for that. However on many other anti Palestinian anti Iran pieces of legislation pushed through the pipes Frank has voted in support of.

  • Neocon meteor Sen. Cotton is funded by Abrams, Adelson and Kristol and loves war a little too much
    • Yep. We need to keep sharing, linking. Have been doing so with the Leverett's sane foreign policy voices for years now. Share everywhere I can

    • As is always the case another incredible interview with middle east expert Hillary Mann Leverett about negotiations with Iran She was on Democracy Now on Friday

      GOP Senators’ Letter to Ayatollah Khamenei and the Strategic Imperative of U.S.-Iranian Realignment: Hillary Mann Leverett on Democracy Now!
      link to

    • He would have to get in line behind many of our U.S. Reps McCain, Schumer, Wasserman Schultz, Ros Lehtinen, Graham etc etc. Long line of for agents for a foreign nation in the U.S. congress.

    • Ripping it up Pixel. Thanks for the colorful images. Some great chuckles.

    • Just read the New Yorker piece. Going to read again at a later time. Kellner is a brave man. What a depraved community in regard to holding pedophiles responsible. Round and round you go and where Kellner found himself the Libovits family knew. Hideous.

      When you read the break down of how the Catholic church hierarchy protected pedophile priest (one of the most serious abusers in Ohio was at the parish I grew up in) it is incredibly shameful, criminal and absolutely shocking. Finally people who had been molested came together and stood firm with the support of family members, the justice system etc.

      Where did those 100 people who called into the radio station telling their stories about being molested by Lebovits and others go? Watched what Kellner was going through and decided to protect their own asses. Pathetic.

      Dershowitz a pedophile protector...adding to his list of shameful stances.

      So terribly tragic for those young men to be sexually abused many times and then abused again by the so called justice system.

    • This out of "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" McCain. Was that too many bomb's?

    • That petition focused on repercussions for the 47 Senators who sent the letter to Iranian officials at 242,050. Still rising. Hope people keep sharing, linking to other sites etc.

    • University of Chicago. Yes yes yes

      I read somewhere that Jeb Bush has hired Wolfowitz on his foreign policy team

    • Great point. Aipac, Jinsa other I lobby groups could do this but would not have the punch without the Christian Zionist which has been carefully cultivated by the I lobby

    • Paul Wolfowitz studied with Leo Strauss at Univ or Illinois. Chalabi too. Straussian thought is embedded in the manipulation and deception. "noble lies" "creative destruction"

      Arrogant and elitist. My basic take on their way of thinking and doing in the middle east is rearranging the middle east in their image. Do not give a rat's ass about the millions killed, injured, displaced in the horrific process.

      Appears that those in the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans that created, cherry picked and disseminated the lies about WMD's in Iraq were heavily under the influence of the "noble lies" strategy.

    • Great points about Hillary Clinton's turnabout on Iran. Before her campaign in 2007 and after she lost to Obama she repeated the I lobbies unsubstantiated claims about Iran. She sure is singing a different tune now. A great shift.

    • Norm Coleman Aye yi yi.

    • That petition against the 47 Senators letter looks like it is going to hit 200,000 in the next few hours. All ready double the amount they wanted to reach by April 8th. The Petition is two days old. Chris Matthews whispered about the Logan Act on his program tonight. Did not mention the petition.

    • Watched it. Corker and Paul were so disrespectful with kerry. Those 47 really want a war with Iran. Wonder why Rand Paul went along for the ride..$$$?

      I believe Kristol was on the big band wagon for Sarah Palin. One of the Republican cruises they met Sarah. That did not work out so well. This letter is not working out so well either. Looks like a lose lose situation for Cotton and Kristol

  • On first campaign stop in West Bank, Netanyahu warns that 'radical elements' want to take over Israel
    • Netanyahu and Israel's illegal actions help cultivate extremism.

      Netanyahu "a better agreement must be sought" That would mean no agreement. Israel should sign the Non Proliferation Treaty and the Chemical Weapons Convention Treaty. Start being part of the nations who have signed these international treaties instead of threatening constantly

  • Israel shot at Gaza fishermen 5 times in first 7 days of March, killing 1, injuring 2
    • Squeezing Palestinians. Equivalent to Europeans wiping the buffalo out so that native Americans were beaten down while Euro Americans committed genocide. More human rights crimes. Sure will not hear Rachel Maddow reporting about this.

  • Netanyahu's accomplishment: Consolidating support for negotiations with Iran
    • Sure are letting them know. The sign up is increasing quickly. I think the speed indicates how sick and tired Americans are of this incessant warmongering by Netanyahu and team based on false claims. Negotiations can work

    • Comments down below for you. That petition grew by 7000 signatures in one hour. Goal was 100,000 by April 8th. All ready at 118,201 by 9;00 pm

    • The goal of that petition was to have 100,000 names by April 8th. All ready at 114,000. Linked it over at Huffington Post, Informed Comment, Going to Tehran, FB pages of Hardball, Rachel Maddows, Chris Hayes, Al Sharpton, Lawrence O'Donnell's I'm placing a bet that there will be a millions sign ups within the week. People are sick and tired of this warmongering bullshit.

      At 7:50 petition stood at 111,354. At 8:25 there were 114,227. Keep sharing this petition please. Thank you Pixel. Symbolic and important

    • Just inked at Huffington Post, Informed Comment, Going To Tehran, Facebook pages of Hardball, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Al Sharpton, The Cycle, Lawrence O'Donnells and on my own fb page.

      The signature goal was 100,000 by April 8th. All ready at 111,000. Bets that it will reach a million in a week. Keep sharing. People are sick and tired of this warmongering bullshit

    • That petition sign up is speeding up. Keep sharing

      Thanks Pixel

    • Chris Matthews opened up his show with this issue tonight (Monday) Hillary mann Leverett has a great interview up over at Going To Tehran. She thinks BB (big bullshitter) shot himself in the foot.

  • Paris university reverses decision, allows Israeli apartheid event with Blumenthal
    • Thanks for the update about the talk..taking place.

      Hoping there will be access to talk. There are few who could argue with Max and the facts. Would love to witness Max go up against Dershowitz. Has this ever happened?

    • Max is committed to the facts. Also sense a deep commitment to human rights

    • Post "complicit silence" of the administration of the university. Sure they will follow the pressure $$ to shut this talk down.

      Max is a very aware, powerful and fact based journalist and speaker about the conflict, occupation, apartheid Stuns and terrifies people with the facts. Watched the faces of people here in Boulder attending Max's talk at the Quaker center when Max came to speak about his latest book. Those objecting could not argue with his documented facts. .Lots of difficult swallowing going on while he speaks the truth.

      "as a collective of academics we are outraged" Let's hope they continue to show their outrage....possibly through the courts.

      So University Paris 8 committed to Charlie Hebdo's freedom of expression but not Max Blumenthal's and Bifal Afandi. PEP university..

      Coming soon "We Are Max and Bifal" posters around campus

  • Palestinian leaders vote to end security coordination with Israel, a cornerstone of Oslo and the occupation
  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
    • Accountability is important

    • "No statistics, no research" Well this would not be the first time that the New York Bloody Times would have allowed exaggerated and dangerous claims to be printed at the top of a page. They have their yes "bloody" fingerprints all over the horrific invasion of Iraq. And the owners, editors etc do not care. Who can ever forget Judy "I was fucking right" Miller and how the NYBT's allowed her horrific WMD claims to be printed without real "research." from multiple sources.

      Sounds like this young lady was unduly questioned. However as Phil and James have pointed out there is no "evidence" of such a "surge" provided.

    • 84 too many for sure. Criminal and should be prosecuted.

    • Indeed. Don't like the facts, don't like people stating the facts on the them "anti-semitic" The awareness on college campuses will continue to surge.

  • Do not let this opportunity for peace with Iran pass
    • Brooks is next to BB trying to use his position to undermine the negotiations. We should all be thinking President Obama and his administration for working with Iran

  • Over one quarter of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress consisted of applause and standing ovations
    • When BB (big bullshitter) repeatedly said to Congress members "you stand with Israel"..."I know that you stand with Israel" He means that literally. Wonder if any of the political cartoonist will show BB in front of the curtain with a remote control switching it to on every time he wanted congressional members to hop to their feet?

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • The U.S. has "run roughshod over International Law and Humanitarian Law" plenty. Plenty. Although I do believe that Israel has and is in violation of more UN resolutions than any other nation. Could easily be that other countries have not called out the U.S. more because of foreign aid etc.

    • annie from the pictures I have seen of Dermer..that does not look like him to me.

    • "Media are stunned by loyalty to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)"

      If they tried to explain the unbridled loyalty for Israel and whatever leader happens to be in place they would have to point back to themselves and identify and examine the (their) shameful complicity that they have been very much a part of. Still we have Chris Matthews, other host, the majority of the Reps (not Leahy) who did not attend making sure that their undying love for Israel no matter what they do is embedded into stone. Did folks read the comments made by those that did not attend? Covered their asses.

      Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow etc "Israel our best ally" BFF etc. Nauseating.

  • Factchecking Netanyahu: An annotated guide to the Israeli P.M.'s speech to Congress
    • Former IAEA weapons inspector Scott Ritter has a great one up over at Huff Po.

      Bibi's Blustery Blunder:

      "The concept of being lectured on the threat of nuclear proliferation in the Middle East by the larges proliferator of nuclear weapons in the Middle East is a bit disconcerting" Classic.

      However far more than "disconcerting." The definition of pure arrogance and hypocrisy.

      Going to ask Scott to come over to Mondoweiss page of Netanyahu's transcript maybe he will join in on the grey fact checking opportunities. Never know.. Never hurts to ask

    • Have never heard him go this far.

    • Phil, Annie Chris Matthews really went out on a limb tonight ripping Netanyahu up.


      Chris "No one seriously believes he (Netanyahu) supports a two state solution. He keeps raising the bar. He says well I want the Arab states to recognize Israel now they have to sign on and say it should be a Jewish state. He keeps raising the bar. No one believes he wants a two state solution" Chris grew some tonight.

    • going to read tomorrow night. Can't wait to read the grey highlights and who said what about the speech

    • Thanks

  • Pelosi blasts Netanyahu speech as 'insult to intelligence of U.S.', Amanpour calls it 'dark, Strangelovian'
    • Clearly Hop has never followed Amanpour and what she has to say about U.S. foreign policy. She has been in line with the I lobby and Israel for years. On Iran she has repeated the unsubstantiated claims about Iran having a nuclear weapons program for years. Changing her tune. Someone is getting to her

    • Spot on Max

    • Strong statement out of Matthews

    • The gate keepers who controlled who got into the speech and who did not must have had their Code Pink radar on extra high. They have usually slipped a few protestors in. Not this year with Sheldon and crew up in the cheering section.

    • Amanpour has regularly repeated the false claims about Iran. This is a big shift for her. Amanpour is married to former Clinton U.S. state dept spokesman James Rubin. She generally tows the line for the I lobby and Israel. James must not approve of what Netanyahu has been and is doing. Undermining the negotiations

    • Have not seen anything so organized or biased on cspan since Ron Paul was a candidate. The Libertarians used to flood the outlet with phone calls in support of Paul

    • One thing is for sure if the U.S. ends up being the military attack dog for Israel, all Americans who care will know where to lay the blame for the disastrous outcome. Of course working hard so this does not happen....

    • This is actually amazing. Have heard Amanpour repeat the Iran warmongering claims...often

    • Miracles will never cease

    • Really different for Amanpour. She has repeated the I lobbies unsubstantiated claims about Iran for years.....often.

    • That would be a great visual for one of those so called liberal political cartoon outlets. Lip prints all over BB's ass...with their signatures. Not enough room but the cartoonist could do it.

    • After BB's speech Cspan had lines open for comments. Have never heard anything like this. The calls were at least 20 to 1 in support of Netanyahu. Either the I lobby has gotten to Cspan and the screeners have been told to only let supporters through or Pro Israel groups planned a surge of calls on Cspan.

    • When BB was trying to appease by thanking Obama Dems stood up..GOP stayed seated. Once again we see who the GOP and really many Dem Reps pledge allegiance too

  • Bipartisanship is dead, as Netanyahu, AIPAC, and GOP square off against Obama over Iran
    • Camera , Israel and rest of I lobby must have gotten through to Cspan. Calls into Cspan after Netanyahu speech 20 to 1 all about Netanyahu, all about going to war with Iran. Had to get to host and screener. Or the Christian Fundamentalist. right wing I lobby planned a surge on Cspan

      A woman caller saying she wishes Netanyahu was our President.

    • Over at Going To Tehran they have a piece up about CNN having Hillary Mann Leverett and Allan Dershowitz going a few rounds on Iran/Israel/ Netanyahu issue. Cnn did it too bad Chris Matthews is incapable of not having a few independent guest on his program to discuss this ssue. Leverett: Netanyahu/Dershowitz present a "fact free" case. Classic

    • Phil bet you watched Chris Matthews panel on Netanyahu's speech. Pulitzer Prize Winners Eugene Robinson, Kathleen Parker and Connie Schultz. They could not kiss Israel's ass enough in those 10 or so minutes. Parker "we have to support what they do" We should all be bi partisan when it comes to Israel. Why? No one ask why? Connie rolled over big time. All nodded and kept kissing.

    • Whoa Al sounds like he may finally be showing some grit on this issue. He never touches the issue.

    • Thanks. Anyone know anymore about any US ambassadors to the UN standing up to Israel and the illegal actions they were committing over the decades?

    • Did you see the flags?

    • "The relationship is as strong and deep as the deceptions Israel can continue to foist on the American public"-

      Was only able to listen to Powers complete ass kissing speech. Part of Netanyahu's Will listen to whole thing when I have the time. Bet someone is keeping track of how many times Netanyahu and other speakers repeated the lie that "Iran has said they want to wipe Israel off the map" As long as they keep that lie alive they will keep many believing.

    • For anyone who knows a great deal about US Ambassadors to the UN. Has there ever been a US Ambassador to the UN who has actually stood up in anyway to what Israel was in the process of doing in regard to crimes being committed against Palestinians, theft of land, destruction of agricultural lands etc. Have all US Ambassadors to the UN left their lip prints all over Israel and Israeli leaders asses?

      What other devotees of another country hold a conference like this in the U.S.? Where all (other years) of our Reps, U.S. Ambassador to the Un and generally our Pres or VP etc are required to genuflect and kiss the ring of Israel and the I lobby?

    • We are not going back. Obama is committed to U.S. national security. His commitment to the P5+1 has proven that. Too bad Israeli's and the I lobby are incapable of seeing how these negotiations are ultimately good for Israel too.

    • "Bipartisanship is injured (needlessly, in my view), but it is very far from dead: if it were, Elizabeth Warren would not be intrested in stating her pro Israel bonafides, and every Democrat who is choosing not to attend the speech would not be making clear that their protest is not a reflection of how they feel about Israel, but how the feel about John Boehner"

      Hop in your own words you confirm once again the disproportionate amount of influence that Israel and the I lobby have on U.S. policy etc. Out of the mouths of a persistent hypocrite and anti semite (Palestinians).

      Israel has proven once again that they have absolutely no concern for U.S. national security. And they have no interest in real peace with the Palestinians.

    • Samantha " The UN is the venue where various countries biases are aired. We will never accept this ever. " Powers says this almost immediately after she goes on an on about U.S. and Israel shared interest. Maybe the most hypocritical statement in her whole .

      Powers who represents the U.S. and Israel at the UN is there only to enforce those biases at the UN. Would so like to listen to how international groups respond to Powers extremely biased speeches at the UN.

      She brings up President Kennedy who had a huge run in with Ben Gurion. Kennedy the last President to demand that Israel open up Dimona to international inspections

    • Max...great points. She made a weak effort to appear fair

    • Samantha Powers stated that the Palestinians seeking justice at the ICC against Israel for war crimes will not help two state negotiations move forward. Talk about the most racist statement that I have heard so far at the conference. Would she tell Jews seeking some tiny bit of justice at the Hague for the millions of Jews who were exterminated that they should not seek some kind of justice? What a horrible thing to say to Palestinians. You should not seek justice.

    • that smirk about the "speeches" was odd. She brings up solid points but then goes off the cliff with her ass kissing. She actually brought up the illegal settlements.

    • As Phil has accurately pointed out Netanyahu's speech "it brings the classic era of the lobby to an end." Double Standard there is no going back to fact based information getting out to the public about the disproportionate amount of influence that Israel has had and is trying to continue to have on U.S. foreign policy.

      It is not just Netanyahu's incredibly disrespectful, divisive and arrogant move to speak in front of congress without the knowledge and consent of the President of the U.S. that has brought us to this point. The decades of actions by people who have pushed tirelessly for justice in the I/P conflict...including Vanessa Redgrave, Barghouti, Erakat, Said, Carter, Finkelstein, Walt, Christian Peace Maker Team, BDS and many others. Phil and Mondoweiss's team joined those ranks over the last 8 years. Those cumulative efforts have brought us to these days.

    • Great points

  • West Bank settlers build Star of David out of rocks to prevent Palestinian farmers from using land
  • Rightwing rabbi seeks to pit Power against Rice on Iran ahead of AIPAC speeches
    • Phil, Annie ...MSNBC Steve Kornacki had David "axis of evil" Frum on as a counter guest to Rep Yarmuth from Kentucky who will not attend the Netanyahu speech. Interesting discussion "Will Netanyahu speech sabotage Iran talks?'

      Not sure why Korancki keeps giving the Iraq warmongers a platform to push for the next war that they want with Iran. A couple of weeks ago he had Iraq warmonger and U.S. Gov 1 in the Aipac espionage investigation Kenneth Pollack on. Why would you give warmongers who knowingly pushed an unnecessary war based on what they knew to be lies? These are accomplices to the Iraq war. They too belong to be on trial at the Hague for their parts in that invasion.

    • GOP did not "import" Bibi. GOP demonstrating who still owns them.

    • Throwing both Rice and Powers under bus. Powers Israel and I lobby ass kissing has been shameful. Would love to be a fly on the wall when other International leaders talk about her presentations at the UN.

      Both Powers and Rice will tell all Aipac conference goers how there is no light between Israel and U.S. relationship. Our best ally, bff etc. The salivating will be disgusting.

    • Despicable ad about Rice. As if Netanyahu etc have not pissed the administration off enough Hope the administration gives her permission to address that this ad went way too far. Wrong, disgusting and absolutely not accurate.

      We all know that both Rice and Power's will tow the Israel, I lobby line at the Aipac conference. Although it would be incredible if they actually were factual that the P5+1 negotiations serve the National Security of Israel, the U.S. Iran and all nations. That diplomacy will benefit movements toward peace and security.

      "That's not a surprise: "Power seems to need Botech more than he needs her" Pathetic Powers had to cower to the I lobby to get her position. Although when you hear her speak she does not seem manipulated seems sincere. Her racism towards Palestinians is evident. I think she believes that Israel's theft of Palestinians lands is aok

      All about Israel and their persistent, alarmist and unsubstantiated claims about Iran. Not a bit of concern about the strong possibility that the P5+1 negotiations will benefit the world including Israel

  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
    • "no member of the power elite that opposes empire" good point.

    • Oh yeah and Charles Freeman had a few things to say about the power of the I lobby

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      "The libels on me and their easily traceable email trails show conclusively that there is a powerful lobby determined to prevent any view other than its own from being aired, still less to factor in American understanding of trends and events in the Middle East," he wrote.

      "The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation, the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth."

    • Hop: " It is the only one where people can speak freely, and do"

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      1948 no catastrophe says Israel, as term nakba banned from Arab children's textbooks

      Israel's education ministry has ordered the removal of the word nakba – Arabic for the "catastrophe" of the 1948 war – from a school textbook for young Arab children, it has been announced.

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      Israel bans use of Palestinian term 'nakba' in textbooks
      Term describing 'catastrophe' of 1948 was introduced in Arab schools in 2007, under Labor education min.
      By Reuters | Jul. 22, 2009

      Freedom of speech in Israel. Freedom to protest
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      Video: Senior IDF officer smashes peaceful activist in the face with his M-16
      Henry Norr on April 16, 2012

      Hop: " It is astounding that anyone could look at the Middle East today and conclude that any meaningful share of the problems there are traceable to Israel." -

      A few experts disagree with you.

      1. The Petraeus briefing: Biden’s embarrassment is not the whole story

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      " The team had been dispatched by CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus to underline his growing worries at the lack of progress in resolving the issue. The 33-slide, 45-minute PowerPoint briefing stunned Mullen. The briefers reported that there was a growing perception among Arab leaders that the U.S. was incapable of standing up to Israel, that CENTCOM’s mostly Arab constituency was losing faith in American promises, that Israeli intransigence on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was jeopardizing U.S. standing in the region, and that Mitchell himself was (as a senior Pentagon officer later bluntly described it) "too old, too slow … and too late."

      Same article: The Mullen briefing and Petraeus’s request hit the White House like a bombshell. While Petraeus’s request that CENTCOM be expanded to include the Palestinians was denied ("it was dead on arrival," a Pentagon officer confirms), the Obama administration decided it would redouble its efforts — pressing Israel once again on the settlements issue, sending Mitchell on a visit to a number of Arab capitals and dispatching Mullen for a carefully arranged meeting with the chief of the Israeli General Staff, Lt. General Gabi Ashkenazi. While the American press speculated that Mullen’s trip focused on Iran, the JCS Chairman actually carried a blunt, and tough, message on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: that Israel had to see its conflict with the Palestinians "in a larger, regional, context" — as having a direct impact on America’s status in the region. Certainly, it was thought, Israel would get the message.

      Israel didn’t. When Vice President Joe Biden was embarrassed by an Israeli announcement that the Netanyahu government was building 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem, the administration reacted. But no one was more outraged than Biden who, according to the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, engaged in a private, and angry, exchange with the Israeli Prime Minister. Not surprisingly, what Biden told Netanyahu reflected the importance the administration attached to Petraeus’s Mullen briefing: "This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden reportedly told Netanyahu. "What you’re doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace." Yedioth Ahronoth went on to report: "The vice president told his Israeli hosts that since many people in the Muslim world perceived a connection between Israel’s actions and US policy, any decision about construction that undermines Palestinian rights in East Jerusalem could have an impact on the personal safety of American troops fighting against Islamic terrorism." The message couldn’t be plainer: Israel’s intransigence could cost American lives. "

      2. Former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit Michael Scheuer has been on Cspan and any other outlet brave enough to have him on and has repeatedly said that Israel's actions endanger Americans, undermine U.S. National security by pissing off a lot of people in the region. Been going on for decades

      ‘Our relationship to Israel causes dead Americans and enormous expense in fighting Muslims’ — Scheuer to Congress -

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      Michael Scheuer on Cspan talking about U.S. foreign policy and how Israel's actions undermine both the U.S. and Israel

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      3. Middle east experts Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett have often brought up how Israel's illegal actions influence middle east problems.

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      4. Former IAEA weapons inspector in Iraq Scott Ritter has written and spoken extensively about how Israel's illegal actions and UN resolution violations are a serious problem in the middle east.

      December 17, 2007
      US Must Reevaluate Its Relationship With Israel

      Ritter has discussed this issue on Cspan many times
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    • "As you note, a profound fear is a central factor in this tragic situation. And as another excellent article at Mondoweiss has so humanely described, that fear has been cultivated through emotional manipulation using disinformation and myths"

      Norman Finkelstein's book "The Holocaust Industry" is a must read. He covers the "emotional manipulation" issue like no other.

    • Mooser can not find that statement about "hatred" that Hop allegedly said. Where is that?

      Hop misquotes people constantly. Puts words in people's mouths.

    • Tree most of us wish the kind of racism and bigotry that Hop persistently exhibits were from the past. Present time very present time. Palestinians are less than to Hop.

    • Hop ""Phil has internalized anti Jewish hatred"

      I truly believe Phil is actually trying to save Israel based on the internationally recognized borders. Phil is facing the facts on the ground. Phil is being a great friend to Israel via his actions.

      And Hop if there is so much freedom of speech in Israel why is it that the Nakba is illegal to even mention?

    • Phil "The great news about the Netanyahu speech is that it brings the classic era of the lobby to an end" Only time will tell

      Phil "Israel supporters like to say that the American people love Israel but they don't really believe that"

      That is why it has been so important to have gatekeepers for Israel in most MSM outlets to block the facts on the ground in that conflict from getting through.

    • Hop you are out of your mind with wild over reactions. "Generally only operating for the welfare for one group of people"

      That is exactly the case with the Israel lobby. The only group of people that they are concerned with in this particular circumstance the Israeli Palestinian conflict, negotiations with Iran are Jews in Israel. They are "generally" not concerned with Palestinians, the national security of the U.S. or the Iranian people. That is a fact.

      And if anyone is an "antisemite" here at MW it is you. I hope that both semitic groups Palestinians and Jews come to a just resolution. You do not.

    • Phil "A post traumatic community operates out of fear" "Jews have long been embarrassed by our high status because it fosters resentment"

      Phil this is where I believe you expose your what I believe could be deep seated elitism.... again. I understand why many in the Jewish community suffer from post traumatic conditions. However I believe what most people resent is the abuse of power. Serious and destructive abuse of power. Generally only operating for the welfare of one group of people. There have been wealthy and privileged people who operate out of sense of equanimity. And then there are those that do not. Whether that abuse of power is taking place in Saudi Arabia or in the halls of the U.S. congress people will feel resentment It is the abuse of power and status that most people object to. Control of legislation, real estate (as you pointed out), pay scales, checkpoints, busting into homes, intimidating children, businesses, governments etc.

      Don't agree with you at all on the Mearsheimer comment Believe the horrific occupation and slaughter of Palestinians gets to Mearsheimer's core. Have talked with him in person

    • Phil "A post traumatic community operates out of fear" "Jews have long been embarrassed by our high status because it fosters resentment"

      Phil this is where I believe you expose your what I believe could be deep seated elitism.... . I understand why many in the Jewish community suffer from post traumatic conditions. However I believe what most people resent is the abuse of power. Serious and destructive abuse of power. Generally only operating for the welfare of one group of people. There have been wealthy and privileged people who operate out of sense of equanimity. It is the abuse of power and status that most people object to. Control of legislation, real estate (as you pointed out), businesses, governments etc.

      Don't agree with you at all on the Mearsheimer comment Believe the horrific occupation and slaughter of Palestinians gets to Mearsheimer's core. Have talked with him in person

  • Thanks to Netanyahu, Israel support turns into a political football
    • Joe partially disagree. If the P5+1 gets a substantive agreement with Iran Obama will be in an incredible position of having stood up to Netanyahu who clearly wants to and all ready has to some degree undermined the negotiations. I think Obama has demonstrated he has the cajones to stand up to Israel with his push for negotiations with Iran. I think what most of us hope to be successful negotiations along with his Affordable Care Act were not easy accomplishments.

      Ok on the actual I/P conflict. Nothing.

    • Good question Atlanta. That statement jumped out at me too.

      Have now heard warmonger and U.S. Gov I in the Aipac espionage investigation Kenneth Pollack making MSM rounds again. Heard him on Diane Rehm this summer and on I think it was Steve Kornacki's program. Why the f do these outlets insist on recycling these warmongering fk's? They were knowingly deadly wrong on the WMD hype and they ask them on their programs why?

      Kagan a "reformed neocon" ...where is this evidence?

    • Still waiting for Charlie Hebdo or other so called liberal political cartoon outlets to draw BB and Boehner giving each other bj's. Somehow that one not acceptable

    • That Emergency Committee for Israel is a clear warning to are either with us or against us. Do you want the money for your campaign or not?

      Will Hillary walk in to Aipac etc holding Bill Kristol's hand or not?

    • solid point

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