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Amazing how many of the MSM talking heads (lots of liberals) one woman on MSNBC's The Cycle was a real dope going on and on about how Snowden was a traitor. And now Pelosi saying he should be prosecuted while she did not have the integrity to go after the Bush administration for outing Plame in a real way, or for lying to the American people about Iraq etc. Got in a question yesterday (thursday) on Cspan's Washington Journal with National Journal writer Brian Fung who was discussing the espionage act (Kathleen from Athens Ohio) I asked him to try explain why the espionage act could be applied to Snowden or Manning when it was not applied to Cheney, Ari Fleisher, Rove and the rest of the twisted Bush administration crew who had purposely outed Plame and the consequences were huge (even though the public will never know the damage to U.s. National Security by this outing). Also asked him if he could explain why the Aipac/Rosen/Weissman espionage trial had been dismissed.
Brian Fung responded with something like "Obama wanted to move forward" Which is pathetically accurate and shameful
Years ago over at Empywheel's (lots of lawyers) I said something like "I don't care if they are snooping on me" I felt my political activism was all about our responsibility to be vigilant and attempt to be aware of what my country was doing to fellow U.S. citizens and to those around the world. Always figured that because of communications with a friend in Afghanistan I might have made some list. All of the lawyer folk over there said "that is not the point"
Dr. Marcy Wheeler (Emptywheel) has writen about the suspicious underwater cable breaks in international waters. "scope of the snooping" Have you heard any discussions about who (other countries) who have access to this meta data/ data mining going on? Often go back to that four part reports that Fox News Carl Cameron did just after 9/11 about private Israeli communication companies having access to 95% of American's phone calls. "scope of the snooping"
Where is the oversight if the few Reps (Feinstein) allegedly privy to what the NSA is doing are legally unable to talk with other Reps, media the American people about the specifics of the "snooping"
Great post Phil. This morning on Scarborough they said Snowden made 120,ooo a year. I agree with MSNBC Joe on application of scrutiny applied to the surveillance program under Bush (Dr. Marcy Wheel and Greenwald have been the best) and then applying that same scrutiny to the Obama administration. Chris Matthews who is a bit weaker on the fair application of scrutiny and "healthy scepticism"than I think you have tried to imply. Matthews and Scaborough were in a healthy debate just this morning. I am with Joe and Dr. Jeffrey Sachs, Greenwald and Marcy Wheeler apply these the scepticism fairly and deeply.
The question of oversight on this and many other issues is fascinating. In Jeremy Scahill's new book "Dirty Wars" he talks about how Cheney and his twisted legal team made sure that the "Gang of 8" oversight access was reduced to four Reps and then they are sworn to secrecy and not able to reveal what is really going on (in that case special ops, intelligence etc) to other Reps, the media, the public.
So where is the oversight?
On Manning and Snowden being held accountable for what some seem to think is "treason" This one does not get any more absurd and hypocritical since we have never seen the Bush administration in any way shape of form held accountable for the horrific invasion of Iraq or for outing an undercover CIA agent..."treason" in many people's books.
Damn right. Have always admired and respected Finkelstein not only for his bravery but his intellect and his focus on facts. We should all do everything we can to promote his work, books and bravery. Contact outlets for speaking engagements. Sad to hear that the BDS movement has tried to smear him. Total bullshit. I did not like his "cult" comments about BDS but no reason to attempt to destroy his views, opinions and speaking engagement outlets.
This is such a depressing but real interview. Finkelstein is so brilliant, fact based and realistic. Total bullshit he has been so completely black listed. We should all do our best to get him speaking engagements. Had no idea that the BDS movement has tried to keep him out. Where is the room for debate.
Thanks for this Mondoweiss
The Boulder city council fumbled and bumbled around so much while they were trying to take a vote on the application that Suzanne Jones who seemed to be trying to cover her and the council's hind end for voting against an application that so clearly met the criteria that other city sister proposals that have passed that she clearly switched her vote. So it ended up being 6 to 3. She could flip her vote like this knowing it was still not going to pass. Kind of creepy. Lisa Morzel and Mason Cowles were the best informed about the application, the history of sister cities and the other sister cities passed by previous Boulder city councils.
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Yep and on other issues. When I lived here 40 years ago not so many huge trucks, SUV's on the road with many empty buses headed down the road. More myths about Boulder than just the PEP issue which has been the case for decades
Anna Baltzer was there. Other very powerful speakers. Was so apparent that those opposing were focused on Holocaust, 9/11, terrorism. The Nablus Boulder sister city group was so well organized, so many impressive speakers addressing relevant issues about Nablus. 45 speakers for 21 against 2 not sure what they were talking about. And those against were against because of I know painful issues but nothing to do with Nablus. The Council ended up acting like a bunch of buffoons at the end. Really worth it to get the 5 hour tape and watch the end discussion. So pathetic that it as painful to watch and listen. A real circus
Essria (sp) the main speaker for the Boulder/Nablus sister city group was incredibly impressive. So articulate, fact based, compassionate, on topic. So well organized...but facts just did not matter
Some of the comments..
Boulder Mayor Matt Applebaum."This is not a numbers game."
Retired attorney Bill Cohen "who is this group aligned with..C.U. Divest BDS." Cohen was focused on cultivating racism and misunderstanding
"why Nablus why not Sydney Australia?"
Gordon Pedrow "this application meets all of the requirements of Resolution 631, support this application."
Many Holocaust stories, references to 9/11, causing divisiveness in Boulder, references to the people in Nablus being terrorist.
Dan Winters "those in opposition are making this political"
Alice Trimbaur asked Boulder city council to have "political courage"
Miriam Schiff talked about the human rights of "Palestinian children"
Mimi Ito claimed that the people of Nablus had "sexually assaulted peace activist."
Jane Rubenstein said that her reason for opposing the application of the Boulder Nablus sister city proposal was because of feminist issues. That Arab women had been "beheaded, strangled, doused in gasoline and pushed off buildings in Nablus."
Will Weathersby a U.S. military man talked about how important the "power of engagement could be."
An alleged professional film critic Kathryn Bernheimer said that because the sister city group had shown films on CU.s' campus like "5 Broken Cameras" that this demonstrated this was a radical group with a political agenda.
Finally by the 27th speaker Sergio Atallah the fact that Nablus was under "illegal Israeli occupation" came up. The next 45 speakers were almost all in support of the Nablus/Boulder sister city project
There were several young women who had taught in Nablus including Sheila Winters who asked the Boulder City Council to actually be "progressive" on this critical issue, Kathryn Griffin said a yes vote would be "relationship building.
Tom Mayer a retired sociology Prof whose parents were Holocaust survivors was especially articulate and talked about his father teaching him "follow justice wherever it leads." Talked about opening doors to new directions not turning back and allowing fear to rule. Prof Mayer also lambasted some for "demonizing" one of the activist Guy Benitelli and how "McCarthyite tactics were being used by the opposition.
Wisam Alshabl a Palestinian asked the Boulder council to "step forward" not backward.
Ida Autch a Palestinian brought up how the group had met the criteria to become a Boulder sister city
Kristine Walcher "Arab people the most misunderstood people by Americans at this time"
Cameron Power asked council to be directed by "Love and the future not fear and the past"
Stephen Ruby "what is the difference between a conservative nay sayer and a liberal nay sayer?" Conservative nay sayer says "never." A liberal nay sayer says "can't do anything new right now."
Mary Axe who had been involved with the 1983 Dushabe sister city application process in the early 80's talked a bit about this same criteria that was applied in that situation was not being applied in this effort.
Anna Baltzer asked Boulder city council to demonstrate that "they care."
Neal Feldman talked about how appalled he was by the anti Arab hate speech out of those who call this issue political and have made it so political
Lisa Suehn a Palestinian student asked the council "if not now when"
Saib Jarrar asked the council to "build bridges" not make a decision "rooted in fear" and not based on facts.
Axman Alawnah asked council to send Nablus a "sign of hope" To "fight for peace" and to "promote goodwill."
That is not what happened. Council voted 7 against the application and 2 for.
Great post Adam. So far Hagel not making much of a difference but as Phil pointed out the other day could the difference mean not going to war for Israel against Iran.
Just spent five and a half hours at Boulder City Council special meeting on the proposal for at Boulder/Nablus Sister City. Tired. The first 20 or so speakers were against the proposal claiming the effort was too political and then went on and on about 9/11 (mentioned 12 times) the Holocaust mentioned 22 times, the divisiveness that this Nablus/Boulder sister city has brought to Boulder over and over again could not keep up. Those who were against seldom brought up the actual town of Nablus. Those for were a mixture of Jews, Palestinians, Christians, non Religious, students, professors etc. Those who were for brought up specifics about Nablus many having traveled to Nablus interacted with Palestinians, teaching, living with etc. Talked about the humanitarian efforts that the Boulder/Nablus sister city project had all ready been involved with. One thing that was so apparent was that the standard and criteria that had been applied to Boulders other controversial sister cities was not applied the same way in this case. In the end even though quite a few of the city council members made actual fools of themselves by trying to cover their asses by making it seem that the very organized folks proposing the sister city scenario should come back when the concerns expressed about the Sister city project (basically they would have to solve the middle east conflict before they could come back) be resolved. After the Boulder City Council rolled over and voted 7 against the proposal to 2 for it was quite a visual and verbal circus as they exposed that the Boulder City Council has no clothes. And that there are many myths about Boulder being such a progressive community.
Danny telling it like it is...Israel's motto "do as we say not as we do" They do not care what the international community thinks even though the UN created Israel.
Dear Danny
One state, one vote...Israel is destroying itself...that is the reality on the ground
Thanks Alex..great post and reminder about how the U.S. continues to protect Israel from any serious repercussions for their criminal actions. Well and visa versa.
Manning facing life in prison for exposing war crimes.... so absurd
And if Obama and Kerry make no solid and realistic moves to save the what many believe to be a non existent two state solution based on the internationally recognized 67 border the push for a one state solution grows by leaps and bounds. One state one vote is growing.
Best place to keep up to date with what is really going on with the situation with Iran is at the Leverett's website GOING TO TEHRAN
Former Congresswoman Jane "waddling on over to interfere in the Aipac espionage investigation" Harman should be deeply investigated for her crimes.
Thanks for this Phil. Manning is a hero. A man of conscience that many Americans are terrified of dealing with. Thank you Bradley Manning.
Reading Jeremy Scahill's "Dirty Wars" Many of us here are very aware of many of the details that are in this amazing book. But Scahill piles on more. So depressing. What I have not read so far is Scahill getting into the reasons why so many want to do damage to the U.S. U.S. foreign policy in the middle east
I only remember two times that Chris Hayes tackled the issue and they were formidable programs. Real breakthroughs. Not sure if he attempted to focus on it again just before leaving and quite honestly have not been following his new program since. Figured he had had his mouth shut with a bigger paycheck. Going to go through his programming when I have more time. We should be politely reminding him that he went where only a few others on MSNBC had gone (Dylan Ratigan a tiny bit by Cenk Uygar) now both of those fellows are long gone. Ratigan quit I believe and Cenk was sent packing because we would not follow orders is the way I understand the situation.. Remind Hayes that we are hoping he will be brave enough to cover the issue again
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Watching and listening to Up with Steve Kornacki while reading here at Mondoweiss. Piece on Apple avoiding paying taxes, off shore holdings etc Have to admit that have not watched the show much since Chris Hayes left. Great program Steve is great. Going to start pushing at the program again to see if we can crack his producers and Steve to take on the I/P issue again the way Chris Hayes and his producers did on several occasions. Not absolutely sure but think Hayes move over to prime time on MSNBC closed his mouth about the issue. Stuffed his mouth with more money. Hope folks will join me in politely hammering both Hayes new program and Steve Kornacki and team to once again cover this issue fairly the way Hayes had...a real breakthrough that seems to have closed the door on the issue again
Great post Phil. Had a friend who was a U.S. pilot in Vietnam who has become a very serious activist apprehended when he arrived in Israel and said when asked about why he was there "I am going to visit my Palestinian friends" Threw him in an Israeli prison for 24 hours and then sent him back to Paris.
Phil how do you still get in? I would think your name would be on the trouble maker list in pulsating bright lights. How is this that you seem to not have problems getting into Israel or West Bank etc?
Bingo! Facts just do not matter to Obsidian
That picture above with Kerry and Netanyahu says it all.
Bibi "don't f with us Kerry we've got your number and any thing else you might be thinking you are hiding"
Sam this is one of the clearest, fact based articulate pieces I have read on the history of the I/P issue and U.S. support for Israel no matter what they do. Thank you. Will be linking this one everywhere I can.
This sentence really jumped out at me "Long before the Holocaust, the political ideology of Zionism charted a path towards ethnically cleansing Palestine from its native Muslim and Christian Palestinian population, aiming to create what was dubbed a "Jewish State."
Sam have read here at Mondoweiss and elsewhere that it is important for Palestinians to take a lead on this critical issue here in the states and elsewhere. What do you think about this? I just heard Gilad Atzmon speak and while I did not agree with by any means everything he had to say. He did mention how he believes so called progressive Jews who were knowingly silent for years about this critical issue and have become involved with this issue the last decade are framing the issue in the media in a way that Palestinians would not. That part of the reasons many of these progressive Jews in domestic issues have become involved with this issue is solely focused on Jewish interest not Palestinian interest. That many want to control the message. What do you think about these allegations? And again do you think it is important that Palestinians frame the message and take the lead back from newly involved Jewish individuals? Does it matter?
16,000 illegal settlement units.....depressing. Israel has closed the door to a two state solution. One state one vote
Thanks. I do admire Medea's abilities. The woman is amazing when she takes an issue on. But have always felt it important for all activist to reflect upon their motivations, their personal awakenings and what may have kept them from stepping up to the plate earlier.
Medea a community organizer taking on Obama a community organizer.
Come on many so called "liberal" Jews in congress and allegedly committed to the human rights of all have willingly ignored this critical issues for decades. This silence has not only been complicity but has built up the infrastructure here in the states to not question, not address, not shine the light on the issue. Clearly this is changing but not copping to the silence and how that has helped sustain the injustices is cowardly
Great points
Great points.
Investigative reporter Jeremy Scahill is who I would like to see invited to have a beer with Obama. Guess I should start a petition on line
Last time I was at Daily Kos most participants were such Obamabots anyone else generally finds it hard to breathe over there.
I was struck by the fact that Obama said that folks should listen to that woman (Medea) but he also said to Medea you should listen to what I am saying about the choice to use drones vs other methods to go after alleged threats to the U.S. etc. While I think it is critical to confront the Obama administration about their choices allegedly going after specific targets who pose a direct threat to the U.S. and yet avoiding talking about the thousands of innocent people killed in the process. The U.S. press does avoid this critical issue. Medea also shouted out a question about compensation for the families of the innocent people the Obama administration has killed. I have read a few articles about how a couple of thousand dollars are given to innocents killed family members along with a few goats etc. So absolutely disgusting that this is the way the U.S. measures an innocents life.
The other night Carol King was on Chris Matthews Hardball and she brought up how she encourages the left to imagine what is like to be in Obama's position, his job is supposed to be protecting the American people. I have always tried to imagine what it must be like to be in that position where you know that Obama (and other administrations) and his administration have information and threats that we will never see or find out about. Now do we have administration after administration protecting corporate interest over seas interpreted as "U.S. National Security interest" with our military etc. Yes we do. So the issue of protecting American lives vs U.S. corporate interest with the U.S . military is an ongoing struggle for administrations and protecting corporate interest has won out for decades. I do not think that the Obama administration would deal with these drone killings honestly if not forced to. The UN announced an investigation into these drone killings months ago. I think the UN investigation into U.S. drone killings along with activist and investigative reporters like Jeremy Scahill who has so bravely and repeatedly brought attention to this issue has forced the Obama administration to respond. Ultimately a great effort
I admire people who acknowledge their silence has been complicit. Much bigger people. Silence from those in the know ( and Medea has known) have very much helped maintain the apartheid system in Israel for decades. All I am saying is it much better to acknowledge that silence and that compliciity
Of course it is the issue and specific comments that Medea made that are the real issues. So why not mix up the activist who go into those Presidential speeches, congressional meetings and speak out. There is some personal need there, some self promotion , some other intention. Gilad talked about this the other night and something other activist have noticed....
I am amazed by her ability to keep getting in. Chris Matthews mentioned the heckler several times the other night but not by name. I actually wish Code Pink would mix up their hecklers (Colonel Ann Wright would be great) but she may not be willing to do this.
It is not unfair at all. Medea has been well informed about this issue for a long time I have heard her speak many times. And yes her "better late than never" and very effective actions should be celebrated. Along with the acknowledgement really should be by her that she ignored this issue for decades. If she can call Obama out in a public way I can certainly call her silence as complicity out publicly. Or are there different rules for her than the ones she applies to Obama?
Absolutely welcomed but they should step up to the plate and be honest as Phil has been about being complicit for decades. Medea is a very bright person, well informed she knows what has been going on in the I/P issue for decades and only until recently has she taken it on and good that she is but she should be honest about her silence for decades.
A question for the "better late than never crowd" is what is it that motivates you a real sense of responsibility, compassion, empathy or that it is far safer to jump on this issue now and is there a personal agenda. But as is almost always the case "better late than never."
No this is not about "chest ribbons" but this should not be about making those who have been complicit for decades new heroes either. Which at times it seems that some are trying to create out of Beinart, Medea etc And Phil I have generally admired that you admit you were complicit. I think this is important
I ask this because the gathering here in Boulder with Gilad Atzmon this issue came up. Really knew little about the guy until I read more recently. Disagreed with things that he said but he sure does not mind a solid argument coming back at him. He said a great deal about the progressive Jewish Left now trying to spin their complicity as if they were just unaware of the crimes against humanity being committed by Israel, for decades and brought up the point that some Palestinians make that it is important for them to take the lead on these issues and that the newly involved Jewish left are co-opting what is being said. What do you think about that opinion Phil?
And where was I? Have not been complicit and proudly not complicit as soon as Vanessa Redgrave spoke about this issue in 76 or so. Also owe awareness to those who were really out on the edge early on. For 30 years following Art Gish's footsteps, creating petitions in support for the Palestinians Lobbying representatives many many times in D.C. on the issue, calling into national radio programs about the issue, attending Palestinian solidarity marches, passing out accurate information on college campuses etc....for decades at this point. Will absolutely sing the praises of the so called Jewish left that have taken this issue up a notch the last ten years and as Phil has pointed out so often taken this discussion loud and clear into the American Jewish community. But really think we need to be careful about turning people into heroes for finally doing the right thing.
Phil what do you think about the need for Palestinians to be taking the lead on this issue?
Medea became more vocal in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. Although she and her ex were both co founders of Global Exchange and have been working on human rights issues for a long time. It has just been in the last 10 years that she has become vocal or involved with the I/P issue. Her silence as well as others who are as bright and as much in the know as she is has been complicit in the oppression of Palestinians for decades. But when Medea gets involved clearly she goes deep and wide.
Why is this comment taking so long to get up? Is it true that at Mondoweiss as Gilad is saying that there is no willingness to tell the truth about how many Jewish individuals are totally new to this movement and want to spin it as if they have been. Unwilling to admit that their silence has been complicity. Medea is wonderful but her silence for decades has been complicity. What is wrong with bringing that up? Or are you folks trying to make heroes out of Medea, Phil, etc
"Whatever you think about Benjamin’s tactics, they nevertheless spurred a riveting exchange." The first Code Pink march in D.C. that took place over a decade ago I asked Medea what is with all of the bangles, jangles, pink this and that. Her response "we want their attention." And over and over her efforts and other activist with powerful, factual voices have interrupted congressional hearings etc with their messages and facts that would more than likely not get out if there was not a scene. Kudo's to Medea a powerful and brilliant activist. So glad that she decided to get on the Palestinian solidarity band wagon in the last 10 years. This lady knows how to step up to the plate and be effective. Go Medea!
Both Queen Noor and Queen Rania of Jordan as well as their husbands have been interviewed on U.S. prime time media outlets and have been out spoken about the brutal situation that Israel has kept the Palestinians in as well as putting the spotlight on Israel's unwillingness to sign the IAEA NPT agreement and the horrendous message of double standards that this sends the world
Yep
There has been little to no coverage on the Palestinian Israeli issue on CBS or 60 minutes over decades. This is new behavior. Camera losing ground facts and truth gaining some
Been wrapped up in work and family issues. Am honored to be missed over at Going to Tehran one of the very best sites having to do with middle east issues as well as Mondoweiss. Boxer has been part of the so called liberals suppressing the truth about Israeli apartheid policies for a very long time. Suppression from the so called left on this issue has been common place for decades. Boxer continues that destructive tradition
Israel taking another step to cut off their apartheid policies being seen by the world, keep witnesses to their horrific actions out of play. And Boxer wants to increase Israel's special and dangerous status in the states. Height of hypocrisy
For about ten years I was able to get relevant and factual questions on the Rehm show about the Israeli Palestinian conflict whenever they were focused on the middle east. The former screener Dorie Anisman was very interested in getting hard driving polite questions through link to aesalazar.tumblr.com My sense is that Dorie Anisman may have been booted from her position at the Rehm show. Not sure just a sense. Not many hard driving questions getting through. Think the new screener may be from the American Enterprise Institute. Kidding but seems like there are new roadblocks up at that radio program
Ok just tried to contact Dorie Anisman on FB only two of them. Have always wanted to find out what happened to Dorie. Whether she was canned or quit
that clip of breaking through the illegal wall getting through to the other side and Israeli soldiers appearing in minutes shooting whoa
I know there are so many theories about who was behind Kennedy's assassination but after finding out quite awhile back that Kennedy had demanded that Ben Gurion open up Dimona to international inspections etc. Sure had me wondering just who Lee Harvey Oswald made contact with in Russia and thinking about Jack Ruby ( Jacob Rubenstein) killing Oswald and why. And why the investigation into the who, what, why Kennedy was assassinated was shut down rather quickly according to some experts.
Woody that line jumped out at me too!
Thanks Alex
Islamophobia is far more accepted than anti semitism. Especially with the Pam Geller's of the world being able to go on national T.V. and radio programs and spread the hate so freely.
Yep
I know folks who have been calling NPR National Jewish Radio for decades. KNow folks who quit giving money and support to their local NPR outlets because of the bias. So endless feel good about Israel stories.
And this
link to fair.org
A few reports
link to fair.org
And the feel good about Israel stories just keep coming on NPR.
Berkeley is not the place it used to be when it comes to social justice and human rights issues especially when it comes to protecting the apartheid state of Israel
"The calmness in the face of tragedy, the reasonableness of all the participants as they say it is time for democracy between the river and the sea, "
At one of the largest Palestinian solidarity marches (of course did not make the MSM) in D.C. that I went to a good 12 or so years ago I audio taped one older Palestinian person after the next. Focused on the older people, Ran into many who were there during the late 40's. The often horrific stories of being driven out of their homes, villages, relatives being killed were all described in calm clear not hateful ways.
Sandra thank you so much. So much in your piece. Encouraging folks to reexamine, reflect, step back, allow the space and encouragement for those most effected by the destructive policies of the Israeli government to step forward. Although so many Palestinians have for decades have not always had access to the means to get the facts out.
Sandra a dear friend Art Gish link to mideastchristians.virtualactivism.net went and lived with Palestinians in Hebron etc for over a decades used to talk about non violent Palestinian activist who had been pushing for this approach for long periods of time who had been imprisoned over the years. He mentioned names but wondering if you or someone else would do a post about this history of Israeli imprisonment of early non violent Palestinian activist going back decades.
"MJ Rosenberg always said: things won't change till reporters put politicians on the hot seat over their slavish support for Israel. AP is doing that. "
Significant change
Engel seems like the perfect candidate to be an agent promoting what the U.S. and Israel's agendas are in the middle east streaming it through MSNBC
Spot on US Citizen...not once. This is what people define as a good reporter? Total bull
"That has surely washed out any Zionist indoctrination" Obviously not at all.
Engel has had thousands of opportunities to dip his toes into the truth about the Israeli Palestinian issue. Thousands of opportunities. He does not have to go out on a limb just dip his toes into the truth for heavens sake. He has not. Not ever. In fact when I used to watch Maddow regularly as I stated earlier they would skip right over the I/P issue when they would be describing the Arab spring. As if nothing was going on with the Palestinians often peaceful effort to bring attention to the apartheid situation they are in. Come on....Engel and Maddow could have just just for a few seconds mentioned what has been going on for the Palestinians a few fucking seconds...but they do not. In fact in the past they have both repeated unsubstantiated claims about Iran. Doing the work for the I lobby and Israel.
Engels "And just because you carry a camera and a notebook doesn't make you a journalist. A journalist has the responsibility to seek the truth, no matter what it is, even if the story hurts your cause. Journalists shouldn't have causes. They should have principles and beliefs."
Shallow words coming out of Engels. I have seen and heard him on Rachel Maddows etc covering the Arab Spring from Tunisia, to Egypt, Libya and then jump right over to Iran skipping over peaceful Palestinian protest over and over again. This so called journalist have never been after the truth in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. In fact he and Maddow make a special effort to skip right over it. Have watched Engel do this over and over again on MSNBC.
"You do realize that we are talking about war crimes that aren’t subject to any statutory limitations?"
Would that apply to the 'war crimes" or "crimes against humanity" apply to the Bush administrations Iraq invasion and consequences?
This is great news. Thanks Hostage and Annie
great idea. Glenn Greenwald would mop up the floor with him and his lies
thanks
Dershowitz is so full of bs. And he knows it. Diversion is his strategy..look over there look over there. Just makes you want to say "shut up Dershowitz just stop lying ...enough"
Archbishop Tutu has absolutely criticized Israel as he should. He has also criticized and worked on many human rights and social justice issues. Just a few of them at one of my favorite website
link to theelders.org
We are all shamed by Syria’s suffering
link to theelders.org
Sri Lanka needs to know the world is watching
link to theelders.org
African campaigners come together to tackle child marriage
link to theelders.org
The Elders call for immediate halt to Gaza violence
link to theelders.org
End the suffering in the Sudans
link to theelders.org
Grant Smith has done amazing work on digging deep into these issues for years now. His website is a treasure trove of accurate information and deep research. Grant Smith has written some great pieces based on the research he has done on this Kennedy/Dimona issue as well as his research on Greenspun
link to original.antiwar.com
link to irmep.org
link to youtube.com
link to irmep.org
link to prnewswire.com
Joe such great points. Will you do a petition where we can sign and stand behind your reasonable request for a "public, credible and thorough" investigation. It seems like the investigators should clearly be neutral experts. If "neutral" investigators exist
good one
So Kennedy pardoned Greenspun. Going to read all later. Thanks for all of your incredible work Grant. Just let some other folks in D.C. know about Newseum folding.
Was linking this to one of the debates going on about the Nablus sister city proposal in Boulder for someone who said Carter had said that Israel does not practice apartheid
Jimmy Carter: Israel's Apartheid
Great clip with David Shuster (where did he go?)
link to youtube.com
thanks Henry. Pathetic and telling decision by the Newseum.
No response from Mike Konrad because there is no logical response.
Guatemala and Israel have historically shared a warm, if sometimes dark, relationship—and it is one that is bearing new fruit today
link to tabletmag.com
But there’s a darker side to the friendship, particularly during the bloody chapter of Guatemala’s civil war. When human-rights abuses led the Carter Administration to cease military aid to Guatemala in 1977, Israel filled the vacuum. By 1983, the New York Times was reporting that Israel was not only acting as a surrogate for the United States (in a similar fashion to its actions in Nicaragua) but also working to oppose the Soviet Union and grow the market for Israeli arms. The cooperation didn’t just involve UZIs and hand grenades; it also included providing intelligence and operational training, both in Israel and in Guatemala, to the right-wing government."
Israel/Montt
link to books.google.com
ISRAEL SAID TO AID LATIN AIMS OF U.S.
By PHILIP TAUBMAN, Special to the New York Times (The New York Times); Foreign Desk
July 21, 1983, Thursday
link to nytimes.com
Had read years ago that Israel was the main supplier of weapons and trainer of Montt's forces.
great that people brought this up
Quite the read
"http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/CAmer_Experience_ILAMC.html
"With the exception of Nicaragua, which has purchased n1 weapons from Israel since the overthrow of the Somoza government, all the countries of the region are important clients and have signed military agreements with Israel. At the end of 1982, the New York Times quoted U. S. officials as saying that Israel was the largest supplier of infantry equipment to El Salvador and Guatemala, and had a "comparable role" in Honduras and Costa Rica.' Israel's role in the region goes beyond the provision of weapons and military communications and electronics equipment to include a broad range of military assistance, such as training, counterinsurgency and intelligence advice, and military-agricultural development projects based on the Nahal-type projects of the 1960s. Moreover, Israeli-Central American military ties are fraught with a political significance which by and large has been lacking elsewhere in Latin America.
Perhaps as a result of Israel's importance as a supplier, the governments of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and Costa Rica have been more forthcoming in their support of Israel than those of any other region. Guatemala, like Nicaragua under Somoza, has not supported a single UN resolution critical of Israel; Honduras has supported only four, and El Salvador and Costa Rica seven (Venezuela and Peru each supported eighteen anti-Israeli votes; Argentina 14; Mexico 13; Brazil and Bolivia 11 each; and Ecuador, 10). All the Central American states except Guatemala voted for the 1980 UN resolution condemning Israel's "Basic Law of Jerusalem" and subsequently moved their embassies from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv. Honduras, Costa Rica, and El Salvador, however, returned their embassies to Jerusalem several years later. The only countries to have done so, they incurred the anger of the Arab states. "
" But Greenwald has a knack for quickly and directly applying his universal principles across a range of issues and in conversations like this, on camera, that seems unique. I wish there were many more like him. God I hope he’s inspiring some journalism school students to emulate him."
Greenwald really listens to the other person. And if they make no sense and are clearly racist, nationalist etc he takes them down quickly limb by limb. It is an absolute joy to listen to someone who is so fair, so consistent and knows constitutional and international law so well just makes me feel high and that there is hope.
Ever watch Greenwald and Dylan Ratigan take Cliff May's lame arguments apart and wipe up the floor with them. Wish the MSM would have him on more often. Think he scares them with his brilliance and matter of fact statements
link to videocafe.crooksandliars.com
The other point Glenn made about Benghazi is that clearly there should be an investigation as to whether mistakes were made and how involved Clinton was in those mistakes. All of us who have been shouting for over 10 years now about Bush and team and the lack of accountability in regard to their "pack of lies" that have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not over a million. While the Bush administration crimes are far more serious ...crimes against humanity the same rules that we want applied to the Bush criminals should apply to Benghazi. Even though the Republicans will never apply those standards.
And he has suffered serious consequences for his truth telling
link to non-intervention.com
With the few times Chris Hayes cultivated real discussions about the I/P issue, Maddow (her first breakthrough) having Carter on awhile back to talk about I/P talks (Rachel tip toed) but Carter took the opportunity and ran with it, Greenwald making it on several MSNBC programs (Dylan Ratigan, Up), Greenwald on Maher's program...more cracks in the wall. Keep hammering on campuses, with your Reps, contacting MSM outlets, letters to your local newspapers, calls into national radio and T.V. programs, conversations, fact based information at churches, synagogues, mosques. Keep politely hammering