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  • British Parliament sends a message to Obama: the people see Israel as a 'bully'
    • Over the decades Israel has had no problem accessing any arms etc that they want from the US.

    • The best debates on Harris, Maher bigotry being examined are at Cenk Uygars Young Turks. Available on you tube What is the Root of Violence - Religion or Other Factors ...

      Video for Cenk Uygur on Maher and Harris bigotry exposed► 19:42► 19:42

      link to Also at Professor Juan Cole's website Informed Comment Islamophobia: Is Sam Harris As Dangerous As Sarah Palin ...
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      Juan Cole
      4 days ago - “”Whether you think him a truth-teller or a bigot, Bill Maher deserves

      Is Sam Harris As Dangerous As Sarah Palin?

      "Whether you think him a truth-teller or a bigot, Bill Maher deserves credit for launching one of the most robust...

    • Thanks for this Phil. Was unable to watch. Over the years have watched and listened to the British Parliament discuss this critical issue and many more. Can you imagine this kind of honest and fact based debate going on in the US congress? Not going to happen. As Netanyahu has so often pointed out they own the US congress.

    • I like it. Israel is a bully... so is the US..

  • How 'Open Hillel' created a new community by challenging the Jewish establishment
    • "Open Hillel has also become a space for deeply engaged Jews to work out evolving feelings on Israel. Many of the attendees are in the beginning phase of activism on Israel/Palestine. But they told me they have found a space of belonging in Open Hillel. Some have transformed from committed Zionists to critics of Israel. Others still consider themselves Zionists, albeit of the liberal sort. -"

      The growth and awareness that has grown over the last decade in the Jewish community on this critical issue has been outstanding. Everyone benefits...even Israel...ultimately. But on the ground the situation for Palestinians seems to have gotten even worse.

      Bet no one from the Athens Ohio Hillel attended this conference.

  • In the last days of 'Operation Protective Edge' Israel focused on its final goal -- the destruction of Gaza's professional class
    • You can go over to Rachel Maddow's Chris Matthews etc fb pages bring this up. Pile on

    • So much information. Reading again

    • No coverage at all about the aftermath of Israel's latest deadly and destructive massacre in Gaza in the US Main stream. No one even whispering about aftermath on MSNBC, CNN, Fox, Cspan, etc etc. Finally heard a spot on BBC radio about the situation as it stands. But on the BBC fb page no post up about the report for folks to comment.

  • British Parliament to vote on recognition of Palestinian state on Monday
    • Page: 108
    • Who wants to place some bets that this news will not make it on the so called "liberal" outlet of MSNBC? Silence. Hell that so called liberal outlet has not even whispered about the aftermath in Gaza.

    • Galloway rightfully pointing out the facts on the ground. That Israel has and continues to confiscate (steal) more internationally recognized Palestinian territory. That this persistent theft by Israel has demonstrated that they have no intention of supporting a two state solution. And of course they have absolutely no intention of allowing one state.

  • Wiesel lauds settlers for 'strengthening the Jewish presence in Jerusalem' -- and expelling Palestinians
    • Yikes....I believed him and yet was always saddened that he seemed completely unable to apply accountability across the board to any group of people.

    • Sad really. While I can only imagine how deeply disturbing it is to dig down into the depths of hell on earth the way he has and then to hold some accountable for committing such horrific crimes against Jews, Poles, Gypsies etc in mass.

      For Wiesel clear refusal to apply what he knows about hatred, racism, murder to the Palestinians situation sure looks like racism.

    • The Cenk Uygar analysis of the Maher, Harris, Affleck confrontation is amazing...You tube. Listening again

    • Always amazing when someone like Wiesel who devoted his life to holding racist murderers who committed genocide accountable... continues to expose his own racism. Sad

  • Israel and the g-word
    • When Israeli lawmakers like Ayelet Sheked publicly call out for the destruction of Palestinians homes, infrastructure "“the entire Palestinian people is the enemy” and justifies its destruction, “including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.”

      When the majority of Israeli's supported the latest massacre in the Gaza.. situation not looking promising

      "A poll this week for Israel’s Channel 10 news, conducted by the Sarid Institute, found that 87 percent of Jewish Israelis support continuing the Gaza operation. A survey by the Israel Democracy Institute found that 95 percent of Israeli Jews think the operation in Gaza is just, and 4 of 5 oppose a unilateral withdrawal. Just 4 percent said the Israeli military has used excessive force.

      And in another survey this week, by the University of Haifa, 85 percent of Jewish Israelis said they are “very satisfied” or “satisfied” with Netanyahu’s leadership."

    • Irgun...morphs into IDF.....Latest massacre in Gaza. Racist agenda continues to move forward with no interference from the US.

      Convention on the
      Prevention and Punishment
      of the Crime of Genocide

      Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948.

      Article 1
      The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

      Article 2
      In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      •(a) Killing members of the group;
      •(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
      •(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
      •(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
      •(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

  • Fineman and Robinson blast Sam Harris and HBO for promoting ignorance about Islam
    • Fineman nailed it. However still wish Chris Matthews (who smirked at the beginning of his three panel's comments knowing how absurd it was not to have one Muslim on his panel) would have Ayman Moyheldin (easy to access because he reports for MSNBC and is a recognized contributor to MSNBC), Professor Noura Erakat and Prof Saliata on his program to discuss this issue more deeply. Racism and bigotry on display by Maher and Harris. When will Chris Matthews actually have a panel on who can discuss this more deeply?

      Anyone else noticing over the last three or so years fewer guest outside of the MSNBC pool of clearly approved contributors on MSNBC shows. Chris has his favorite Joan Walsh on but he used to periodically pull TPMuckraker reporters, and other in depth reporters outside MSNBC's comfort zone on his program? Rachel had Prof Cole on years ago. Chris Matthews had Amy Goodman on once. Chris Hayes had Noura Erakat, Barghouti and others on some years ago to discuss the middle east. Melissa Harris Perry still going outside MSNBC's clearly demonstrated comfort zone with experts on outside of MSNBC's box. Years ago Dylan Ratigan had Glenn Greenwald on to discuss Afghanistan and other middle east issues (a segment to behold) I think Rachel used to have Greenwald on. However it now seems like some of those leaks in those walls of silence constructed over decades are being plugged up once again on some outlets. The other day on Morning Joe the round table group did not challenge a guest who referred to Iran having nuclear weapons as a fact. No one challenged this flimsy assertion. Now Andrea Mitchell has done this so has Rachel Maddow. But the unsubstantiated claims about Iran being made in our MSM slowed down for awhile. Are we going to watch these unproven claims increase once again as we get closer to the talks with Iran deadline?

    • Again Affleck did not say like saying "you shifty Jew" that was Maher's effort to undermine Affleck's valid points

    • I believe that was Bill Maher who threw out that red meat comment. Affleck did not take Mahers bait which was clearly an effort to undermine Afflecks points.

  • The Titanic of the occupation -- SodaStream (Update)
  • New site catalogs documentary films about Palestine
    • Thanks Henry..sharing. 15 or so years ago I went to hear a film maker from Columbus Ohio speak about his efforts to document and then make a film about human rights abuses by Israel in the occupied territories. He reported that the relentless abuse and threats that he and his family experienced terrified and intimidated him. The times have changed. More and more people becoming aware of the facts on the ground. Although it seems some news outlets and the effort to rebrand Israel are plugging up media holes even more so.

      Lots of reporting about Israel's recent massacre of Palestinians in the Gaza on many MSM outlets during the massacre...not a whisper about the death and destruction of homes etc since then. Not on Chris Hayes, Ronan Farrow's, CNN, never on Al Sharptons seldom on Rachel Maddows Sad when human rights abuses are only important in a selective way. On MSNBC Mellisa Harris Perry has made a remarkable effort to widen people's scopes

  • Pogroms rage in Europe? Kidnaped Israeli teens were Freedom Riders? Liberal Zionists' desperate slogans
    • Lawrence O'Donnell had Sam Harris on last night to talk about the encounter between Affleck, Maher and Harris. I have yet to hear Harris apply the same standard of criticism that he is applying to Islam but never to Judaism. He brings up Buddhism during his appearance on Lawrence O'Donnells MSNBC program.

      Young Turks Cenk Uygar has a great analysis up.

      Over at the Atlantic Peter Beinart has a piece about the confrontation. "Bill Maher's Dangerous Critique of Islam"

      Peter Beinart

      Oct 9 2014

      "When Affleck told Maher that America has “killed more Muslims than they’ve killed us by an awful lot … and somehow we’re exempt from these things because they’re not really a reflection of what we believe in. We did it by accident,” he was making a crucial point"

  • Where is the antiwar movement?
    • Great piece Alex have lots of thoughts about this issue. Worked hard like so many others to stop the invasion of Iraq But right now even though I do not believe there seems to be a great deal of space between the bulk of Dems and Republicans on this ongoing war in the middle east I am spending spare time working for campaign of Lundragen Grimes in Kentucky.

      Hope others are working for Dem candidates based on some important differences between the two parties and candidates.

      In a summary I basically think the mainstream media outlets have almost become worse at informing the public with alternative and fact based views on the middle east. While Chris Matthews did give the war pushers like Kristol, Gaffney, Frum etc that he had in the run up to the invasion he did not and is still not having experts on who oppose ongoing actions in the middle east. Rachel has had Colonel Andrew Bacevich on once. Al Sharpton has not had one expert on who opposes what is going on in the middle east. In regard to both Al and Rachel they are great at having guest on for their very selective human rights and social justice targets. And while I have and continue to support civil rights, gay rights etc I apply those social justice and human rights standards to middle east concerns. As I pointed out Chris Matthews has and continues to challenge the ongoing war decisions in the middle east he will not go as far as having Leveretts (who are not Going To Tehran) on who have shared very educated and highly experienced alternative views to how Assad should have been dealt with three years ago to save Syrian lives etc. They were trying to push the Obama administration into negotiating (indirectly) with Assad based on his willingness to power share. We know Israel and the I lobby pushed back hard against this. But Matthews and his ilk did not use and are still not using their powerful positions to inform the public. Ok Rachel had Colonel Andrew Bacevich on once, Ed has had Colonel Wilkerson on several times, Al Sharpton no one who shares an educated and opposing view to a continuing war in the middle east. Melissa Harris Perry has actually done a remarkable job. Joy Reid steps her toes in a bit. Ari Melber but the rest of the Cycle crew rolls right over fueling outrage over the horrific beheadings but not one of these talking heads even get close to reporting about deaths caused by US drones, the latest US led air strikes in Syria and Iraq. These same outlets can not even come up with cumulative reports about deaths and injuries in Iraq as a direct consequence of our invasion

      Millions of us marched lobbied our Reps against the invasion of Iraq to what outcome? Some of our Reps listened.

      I think there is a sense of defeat among those who marched against the invasion. The media has almost gotten worse than they were before that invasion. Matthews, Maddow etc have the power to inform the public, widen their scopes but instead they will spend hours on the ebola issue and little time on expanding our scopes about what is going on in the middle east. Little coverage of core reasons for the anger and hatred towards U.S. policies in that part of the world.

  • Maher lumps Islam with ISIS, and CNN's Cuomo says Aslan's 'primitive' tone proves Maher's point
    • I love Maher on so many other issues for his willingness to call hypocrisy out but on this issue he demonstrates racist attitudes and an inability to look at Israel and its actions and the I lobby and their influence. He will not touch this issue honestly.

      Prof Juan Cole nails this hypocrisy in a piece about this latest exposure of the racism embedded in comments made by Maher and Cohen. Over at Informed Comment

    • Great to link again Kay. Linked to that exchange on many websites as soon as it happened. Maher goes blind when it comes to Israel and their actions. You could see it in his lopsided coverage of violence in religions in his movie. He raked the violence in Christianity, Islam over the coals but did not do the same for Judaism on an equal scale. The exchange between Affleck , Sam Harris and Maher defines the line between so called liberals ability to look at the cultivation of Islamophobia more fairly. Also helps more clearly point out how many comedians, MSM host, journalist congress members have protected Israel's social justice and human rights violations often linked with Judaism through what ever means possible while criticizing other countries and religious extremism etc for similar human rights violations.

      Scheuer gets down to core reasons for the anger towards the U.S. Also focused on by other former CIA analyst and in many of those reasons somewhat discussed in the 9/11 Commission report

    • "Americans have a responsibility to consider our violence, and Jews have a responsibility to meditate on Zionism. "

      A conversation about some of these issues went on between Joe Scarborough and middle east reporter Ayman Moyheldin the other morning on Morning Joe "Did Affleck get it right on Islam discussion" Joe ask which religion is more of a threat to civilization....Worth the watch. Got into a tiny bit who is responsible for more deaths, injuries etc

      Bill Maher was silent for longer than I have ever witnessed. He had to know that his racism was showing even more clearly than in his lop sided movie about religions. Maher even threw some racist red meat out to Affleck stayed on point. Maher and Sam Harris displayed real racism once again. Sam Harris "Islam the mother lode of bad ideas" Affleck called their racist comments out "gross and racist"

  • Netanyahu's 'poison' -- latest settlement will distance Israel's closest allies, State Dep't warns
    • As Andrea Mitchell said on one of the MSNBC outlets yesterday "Netanyahu knows he has the US congress" she added "they have his back" Andrea has slowed down her willingness to repeat the unsubstantiated claims about Iran but still she plays softball

    • Little to no coverage on MSNBC last night about Netanyahu's visit. All of the same ebola info and secret service issue. A bit on Morning Joe this morning. Joe Scarborough even said these announcements of expansion of illegal housing in E Jerusalem are "cheap shots" and provocations. There was a go around that round table about Netanyahu's interview with Andrea Mitchell many comments "better Andrea than me" said Mika B.

      Al Jazeera America did a great segment this morning. During an interview with Daniel Levy he said there will be "no cost, no accountability" for Israel's announcement. He said another interesting thing that 1 in 10 Israeli's live beyond the green line now. During this segment they said that Mahmoud Abbas has allegedly set a deadline for Israel to get out of occupied territories which of course we know is not ever going to happen. I think the deadline they mentioned was Nov of 2015. We can hear Netanyahu and his ilk laughing as they expand illegal settlements in West Bank and housing in E Jerusalem.

      Obama has another Netanyahu footprint on his cajones... Although if Obama does the right thing for US national security he will make a reasonable deal with Iran.

      There was a mention on Morning Joe about Netanyahu's not so subtle threat that if the US makes a deal with Iran (against Israel's demands)"all options are on the table" Basically threatening the use of nukes is what I believe. The only people we have heard mention this underlying threat has been Former President Jimmy Carter (who turned 90 today), Dr. Zbigniew Brezinski and Prof Norman Finkelstein.

  • Netanyahu at the United Nations: Hamas, Iran, ISIS and 100 cheering Israelis
    • The majority of Israeli's want Palestinians to disappear. A large majority of Israeli's support the expansion of illegal settlements in the West Bank, illegal housing in E Jerusalem. A large majority of Israeli's supported the recent massacre in the Gaza. Ruthless

    • There is absolutely no hard evidence that Iran is trying to make a nuclear weapon. As signatories of the NPT (we know Israel continues to refuse to sign) they have the right to enrich for peaceful purposes. While wanting to have break out capabilities makes sense...Iran offered long ago to have Brazil and I believe Turkey do their enriching but the U.S. under the bad influence of Israel with their nuclear weapons said no.

    • Still no one covers the make up of ISIS. Did hear one news piece that reported two of Saddams former Baathist Generals in the Iraq army disbanded by Paul Bremmer soon after the US invasion lead ISIS. Few mention Al Qeada not in Iraq before the invasion. Or that Assad was willing to make a power sharing deal three years ago. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians would be alive today if the U.S. etc had been willing to consider. But Israel would not hear of it

    • Netanyahu In 2001: 'America Is A Thing You Can Move Very Easily'

    • He has come right out and said he knows how to lead (threaten) the US congress...etc how they and our Presidents will not get in their way. Israeli leaders and the I lobby been doing this in the U.S. for a very long time.

    • Information about Code Pink's protest in front of White House at Noon today Oct 1 over at their website.

    • Today Code Pink will be protesting in front of White House during Netanyahu's meeting with Obama. Have suggested to Medea and othrs that some of them take Ohio University Megan Marzec's BBC (Blood Bucket Challenge) in front of White House or the Israeli Embassy. Would so be in DC today (have protested with that remarkable human rights and social justice group many times) but taking care of 86 year old mother after a stroke so no go for me. But sure great example by Megan that others across the nation could take today while Netanyahu meets with Obama. The latest massacre of Palestinians in the Gaza has fallen off the main stream media's charts (their coverage of the latest slaughter of Palestinians was more than in the history of the conflict) but now silence about the state of the Gaza and Palestinians living there now. Code Pink is damn effective in getting this issue back in the eye of the public. You can participate where ever you are by doing the BBC (Blood Bucket Challenge) today

  • ISIS wants us to come in and bomb Arabs (Rouhani and Matthews agree)
    • AlJazeera America my new favorite almost as good as Democracy Now...almost

    • Rouhani also said “Certain states have helped to create it, and are now failing to withstand it. Currently our peoples are paying the price," he said. "Certain intelligence agencies have put blades in the hand of the madmen, who now spare no one.”

      Our main stream outlets refuse to encourage Americans to connect the dots between the actions of our own military in those parts of the world and reactions to those brutal actions. Abu Gharib, Gitmo, black sites, dead, injured, displaced in Iraq.

      Still no coverage about how many in ISIS, Khorazon etc are former members of Saddams Baathist army that Paul Bremmer disbanded soon after the invasion. No Al Qeada in Iraq before the invasion.

    • We can push Chris Matthews etc at their fb pages etc encouraging them to widen the American publics scope on these critical issues on their news outlets . Have been doing this for years now. Links etc, encouraging them to have a guest on with much more serious expertise and views.

      Phil you are so right about Chris screaming about the beheadings but then refuses to even consider or show the American people the crimes that US forces have committed in Iraq, black sites etc. He has brought up the dead, injured and displaced in Iraq but does not question the lack of solid numbers for these deaths etc. Lancet reported 650,000 dead in Iraq in 2006, then that was swept under rug by Bush administration and the news. Iraq body count comes up with other numbers, Pentagon even less. So how is it when US drones, satellites etc can report about how much destruction has been done by US lead air strikes in Syria, Iraq or if they want to see a fly on the back of a camels ass they are unable to report accurately about how many Iraqi people have been killed as a result of our invasion or how many innocent Syrians have now been killed because of our 240 air strikes. Chris and other MSNBC host do not dig down into this issue at all

      Before the invasion of Iraq Chris had Bill Kristol, Frum, Gaffney, and other neocons and put them on the hot seats about their WMD calculations and push for an invasion but never ever had Ritter, Dr. Zbig, former CIA analyst Jason Vest at the nation who were questioning the validity of the Bush administrations false intelligence coming out of the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans. He did not cover the hundreds of thousands (millions nation wide and world wide) of us out on the streets protesting and lobbying in the halls of congress against the invasion. He would not go that far.

      Now he still refuses to have guest on like experts Hillary and Flynt Leverett (both middle east analyst) who advised three years ago that the Obama administration and the world should make a deal with Assad of power sharing. Lives would be saved, the vortex for ISIS and other off shoots of Al Qeada would not have flourished in Syria etc. When will these host of shows really assist the American public in widening their understandings?

      When will Chris have legitimate guest on like Phil, Max and others in the Jewish community who have really taken serious stands and risk about the I/P conflict. The wind has shifted in the US about this issue and Chris continues to hold up the wall of silence about those changes. Chris Hayes and Melissa Harris Perry have stepped out of the safe zone on these issues. Too bad Matthews does not really have the balls to do so

    • Yes he has taken junket trips. He kisses the I lobbies ass a great deal

    • Glad you caught this was going to bring up. Matthews and Chris Hayes the only ones bringing this question up on MSNBC. Ed having Colonel Wilkerson on questioning the wisdom of these air strikes, Rachel has had Colonel Andrew Bacevich on who also shares different views being pushed by many. MSNBC reporter Ayman Mohyeldin of course helping the public open up their scopes of understanding Other than that MSNBC seems to be constantly putting up their safe and sound "MSNBC contributors" who almost always provide the public with a narrow scope. Matthews etc continue to refuse to have the Leveretts, others on who really have the expertise to widen American's etc understanding of the issues. CNN, Fox recycling Iraq warmongers

      Watched a Cspan Air force half hour report on air strikes in Syria so far. Only one reporter asked about the deaths of innocent Syrians. Air Force commander said 0 have been killed. We know this has to be bullshit. Yep our media will show American images of the journalist beheaded or about to beheaded (so tragic) but not the images of those the US tortured, killed in Abu Gharib, Gitmo, black sites, murdered with drones, or those killed in Syria via US led air strikes. Talk about manipulation of the public. Leveretts recommended three years ago making the power sharing deal that Assad was pushing...hundreds of thousands of Syrians would more than likely be alive if Obama and team had gone that way. 50% of Syrians support Assad...a reality.

      Phil etc did anyone watch part of the Global Citizen concert? Is the Caterpillar Foundation that was sponsoring part of that concert and initiative the same Caterpillar being used to bulldoze Palestinans homes, buildings and land? The three legs of that movement are education for girls, sanitation and access to clean water. Wonder if Dylan Farrow of MSNBC will be focusing on Israel's decades long systematic abuse of water rights to Palestinians. Illegal control over Syria's Golan Heights and water rights

  • 'Jews Against Genocide' take the blood bucket challenge at Yad Vashem
  • Netanyahu heads to New York to ‘refute all the lies’ and praise ‘the most moral army in the world’
    • Obama sure seems to be following the Bush administrations example of following the neocons agenda in the middle east all explained in the Project for a New American Century and the Securing the Realm blueprints for the middle east. Destabilize. Iraq, Syria on the hit list all headed towards a military confrontation with Iran.

      Obama keeps saying "no boots on the ground" in Iraq but has not said the same about Syria. No mention of innocent Syrians being killed by these 240 air strikes. Although Chris Matthews did bring up how this intervention will stir up even more hatred. Watched a Cspan report on the 240 air strikes and the Air Force commander said no report of civilian deaths....Right

    • Carter and Finkelstein have both talked and written about Israel's potential to use a nuke. Something few want to address

    • The UN is only useful when they create your state

  • Netanyahu erases the boundary between world Jewry and Israel in celebration of 'our country'
    • From what I am reading and hearing anti Jewish and anti Muslim hate crimes have gone up equally as people like Geller and others have stoked the fires of racism.

    • Yikes always surprised when I agree with radical right winger Netanyahu about anything. "Jews everywhere must be able to live proudly and without fear" So why does he keep making it more and more impossible for those living in Israel within the internationally recognized borders. Why does he continue to support the confiscation of internationally recognized Palestinian land?

      "this conflation of Israel is anti semitic" Anti all non Jews.
      Netanyahu "our teenagers, our country" we we we. Always separating Jews from others instead of attempting to unite all of us upon inclusive, universal humanitarian standards.

    • He has the ring...surprised he did not show it again

  • What Max Blumenthal saw in Gaza
    • Saw and interesting symbol on a commercial the other day. Was a wounded warrior fund ad put up by Wells Fargo. They had injured Vets skiing with prosthetic limbs etc. One of the Vets talking had a Palestinian Keffiyeh (ski jacket on) around his neck as they asked him about his injuries and recovery. Was taken back by this.

      During Obama's speech at the UN the other day he said that the Israel Palestine conflict has been used as an excuse to distract from problems in other middle east countries. He lectured and tried to undermine looking at this issue as a reason for the anger that many people in that part of the world feel towards the U.S. That somehow the double standards that the U.S. and Israel continually practice by calling out other nations in regard to "territorial integrity" or "international law" while Israel and the U.S. have continually ignored these standards do not matter. Obama continues to be a bit of a weak kneed puke when it comes to standing up to Israel's continual expansion of illegal settlements etc

      Later during the UN Security Council meeting chaired by Obama King Abdullah of Jordan brought up the Israel Palestinian conflict and strongly inferred that the double standards that are constantly applied by other nations to the middle east do indeed make people angry and need to be resolved asap. That the killing of Palestinians by Israel are as critical when talking about human rights as the U.S. now conveniently seems to be about Syrians etc

    • PW "Max was filled with despair" And Phil you have also described being filled with despair when you have witnessed what has been going on for decades for the Palestinians. I have always wondered why some need to see horrific crimes committed against others up close. As a young person reading endless books about WWII I did not need to go to holocaust museums or to the towns where millions of Jews and millions of others were murdered in mass by the Nazi regime to feel deep anguish and outrage about what had taken place. Reading about the Nuremberg trials and how some were held accountable for those horrific crimes... we all celebrate that there was some accountability. Having read UN and other human rights accounts, having heard eyewitness accounts about the decades long crimes that have taken place and been given cover by U.S. officials often under pressure from the I lobby...I have never felt the need to see the crimes in person to feel outrage and actively respond. Can also imagine that some individuals have been encouraged within their cultural, ethnic and religious environments to willfully ignore what has been going on for decades. So important for some to see these crimes up close.

      The humanity that Palestinians exhibit given their deadly and oppressive circumstances is amazing. Have heard these kinds of stories from others who have witnessed their situations up close. One large Palestinian march I attended in D.C. over 12 or so years ago (could be longer) I focused on talking to older Palestinians (70's, 80's) and heard one Nakba story after the next. Was simply amazed by the matter of fact way that they told their stories about being forced from their homes and villages, relatives brutally murdered killed by Haganah/Irgun. They wanted others to hear their stories. These individuals did not exhibit vicious anger, just deep sadness and pain in their eyes Was as mesmerized by their stories as I have been talking with Holocaust survivors. How people can still walk, talk after such unbelievably terrible things have happened to them and their families is a mystery for me. Just hearing their stories makes me go into a kind of numb shock.

      Many Palestinians are strong and resolute as many Holocaust survivors are. They want the world to hear what has gone on. For the Palestinians these crimes against humanity continue. So wonderful and important that over the last 10 or so years both you and Max have started to speak out and witness Israel's crimes that have been committed over the last six decades (although illegal confiscation of Palestinian lands had been going on since the late 1800's). A huge and important addition.... helping people wake up!

      Netanyahu meeting with Obama in D.C. next week. Will you guys be protesting?

  • Israeli refuseniks expose Occupation’s dark underbelly
    • Interesting. Have always wondered why Phil and Max can move around in that neck of the woods so easily...when Norman Finkelstein, Medea and I think Colonel Ann Wright are blocked from coming into Israel.

      Had the great honor of talking with Seymour Hersh in a line at Starbucks at Union Station in D.C. He had been refused access into Gaza during Cast Lead. Remember how journalist were blocked from reporting during that massacre

    • Brave soldiers. Re discovered their humanity. Sounds like they will be in big trouble. Many in the intelligence communities have believed that Israel has been doing this for decades..collecting this kind of information on Palestinians others that they wanted to intimidate. Sure seems like the case when it came to the Fox News Carl Camerons exposure soon after 9/11 of Israeli owned communication companies having access to 95% of Americans phone calls. That four part report on Israeli data mining via Amdocs, Comverse Insofys etc was shut down on the Fox New page quickly

  • Homegrown jihadis and the limits of the Israel lobby
    • Read Phase I and Phase II of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Lots there about many of those meetings. Also the 9/11 Commission Report filled with insights.

      Kansas Republican Senator Pat Roberts stalled the release of Phase I of the SSCI (much in there about the Bush administrations manipulation of pre war intelligence) just before the Kerry Bush election in 2004

    • In regard to the military industrial complex interest. Lots of warmongers both Zionist and others who have been within administrations and now sit in upper level positions at Rand, Raytheon etc pushing form more military interventions. Revolving door keeps revolving.

      Lots of F.B.I. files on how some Israeli's with passports have come under deep questioning and investigation for data mining U.S. phone calls etc (Fox News Carl Cameron's four part report on data mining and Israeli citizens spying just after the 9/11 attack). Lots of articles written about U.S. officials accessing highly classified intelligence and passing them onto other Israeli agents etc. Most recently Jeff Stein at Newsweek "Israel spies on the U.S. more than any other ally" (many former CIA analyst etc have also stated and written about this including former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit Micheal Scheuer, Ray McGovern, Kathleen and Bill Christison), Jason Vest article in the Nation in 2002 "The Men from Jinsa and CSP" and Stephen Green's article "The Bush Neo Cons and Israel" Sept 3, 2004.

      Lt Col Karen Kwiatowski wrote about questionable Israeli agents making way into Pentagon meetings with Douglas Feith , Luti etc in the Office of Special Plans (that created, cherry picked and dessiminated the false WMD intelligence) in her article "The New Pentagon Papers"

      Lets not forget that Obama shut down the Federal governments investigation and delayed Aipac espionage trial soon after he came into office. Let's not forget then Congressperson Jane (waddling on over to interfere in the espionage investigation) Harman's role in this undermining U.S. national security.

      Serious and questionable behavior from possible enemies within and without of the U.S.

    • Going to read several times so much there.

      "So why do these Western governments condone service in the IDF but not ISIS" Clearly recognized states that commit crimes against humanity (Israel, U.S. U.K.) do not come under the same scrutiny that non recognized terrorist groups that call themselves states like IS or Khorazan, Al Qeada fall under.

      Not much talk in the main stream about how Al Qeada was not in Iraq before the invasion. That Bremmer's disbanding of the Iraq army fueled the growth of Al Qeada morphing into IS, Khorazan, Al Nusra etc. Have read that two Generals in Saddams former Baathist Iraq army have been leading the ISIS group. Little to no talk about these ever evolving splinter groups are more than partially a result of the horrific invasion of Iraq.

      So much coverage of Syria's dead, injured, displaced. No mention of what the Leveretts recommended years ago that the U.S. negotiate with Assad based on his power and hold (50% of Syrians support him). Assad was willing to do a power sharing deal. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians are dead etc because the U.S. has been more than willing to support unknown Syrian rebels.

      Wonder if we will hear anything about the innocent Syrians that are killed by U.S. and coalition forces strikes. Wonder if the Syrian children killed by these strikes names and faces will be put up on MSNBC, CNN, Fox News as much as those who have been brutally beheaded by IS? Still waiting for these outlets to really cover the Iraqi dead, injured, displaced over decades of U.S. military interventions and sanctions. Who is responsible for creating an environment for all of this terrible infighting? The U.S. etc. How many Muslims have died as a result of our meddling? What happened to "containment" Just looks like a case of killers killing killers to me

  • The rabbi at the shitshow
    • So was the man in the "blue shirt" at the O.U. Senate meeting Leshaw's husband?

    • Eric Fingerhut's role in trying to clamp down the debate has back fired.

    • Phil and Mondo team always willing to go wide and deep not only when it comes to the reality on the ground but at own home grown prejudices that can blind individuals from facts and reality. Leshaw bound in by her own tribal allegiances. Hopefully she breaks free and turns her "pity" for Palestinians into empathy and compassion. As well as protecting her beloved Israel based on internationally recognized borders before the two state solution is completely entombed by the illegal and immoral actions of Israel

    • The doors are open now. No way to close them. Hopefully the students will take the reins of the debate and start reading and discussion groups (UN resolutions, international law, other human rights reports, Goldstone report, UN Mavi Marmara report) Ilan Pappe's "the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians" Edward Said's books etc etc.

    • Megan "hurt" people. Clearly not her intention. Alert, awaken! Leshaw, Fingerhut's intention is to shut down the now opened debate on O.U's campus as numerous Professors and administrators on that campus have done for decades. No going back now. Gates to the facts are wide open.

      Hopefully Megan and others will begin to discuss the issue in a more democratic way with professional mediators with no agenda.

      Leshaw is clearly not the individual to lead on this because she has so clearly missed that opportunity. Leshaw an administrator for "Bobcats for Israel"

    • Phil your honorable willingness to examine the infrastructure of racism without concern for your own comfort zone is to be admired and celebrated. As always thank you thank you....

    • great points

    • Leshaw feeling "pity" for Palestinians is very different than feeling empathy or compassion. But feeling even feeling "pity" and not turning that feeling into sympathetic actions is empty.

      Leshaw or anyone else believing that the this critical issue has not been activated in Athens for literally decades has their head in the sand. Art and Peggy Gish and many others have been deeply involved for four decades. Hope Leshaw opens up her heart , mind and Hillel to the facts on the ground. All will benefit

    • Too bad this Rabbi can not deal with facts on the ground

  • Senator Warren's progressive supporters demand accountability for her rightwing pro-Israel positioning
    • Great piece Jeff. Warren lined up behind the I lobby and Israel immediately when she entered into the national spotlight. Clearly she supports justice in the U.S. but not for Palestinians.....This is racism. She continually repeats the unsubstantiated claims about Iran .

      I love Bernie Sanders on domestic issues but the spotlight needs to be turned on Bernie and his votes for the 2006 (Senate 2370 Palestinian anti terror legislation) that I believe passed unanimously in the Senate. He did vote no on the 2002 Iraq war resolution (so this differed from Clinton) but his voting record on foreign policy needs to be examined carefully.

  • 'This is our land!': West Bank village Wadi Fukin fights largest Israeli land grab in decades
  • Five lessons from the struggle to reinstate Steven Salaita at the University of Illinois
    • Our MEC (middle east collective) hosted Salaita on the Univ of Colorado's campus. Invite him to your community, university etc. Full of facts and wisdom

  • 'NYT' finds a model relationship for Palestinians and Israelis: collaborator and his handler
    • harder to find with the way articles are categorized..

    • Was on Morning Joe on Thursday or Friday morning. He was asked a question about possibly suffering from Stockholm syndrome.....Rebranding effort going way to put the facts and truth back in the bag. Can muffle it but not going away. Where is Susie Kneedler's piece that was up this morning about Wednesday at O.U's student senate meeting. Was up now down

  • Ohio University filibuster: harangue or free speech?
    • Great report Susis. Hopefully all who have threatened violence are reported to Athens Police and Dept of Justice in D.C. Document any threats of violence.

    • Hopefully you go to the Athens police about what you witnessed the man in the "blue shirt" do. They need his name and what you saw to go into the record.

  • Photo-cartoon making Tutu into Hitler is published then taken down by South African Jewish paper
    • "taken down" but footprints still there. Phil I know you have written about how there were Jews very involved in the anti apartheid movement in South Africa decades ago there were also those who supported and benefitted economically from apartheid in S Africa.

      Apartheid is apartheid as Tutu has pointed out for quite some time now.... making racist terribly uncomfortable.

      Where did Susie Kneedler's report go. Read it just an hour ago. Now a 404 too.

  • Israel surveils and blackmails gay Palestinians to make them informants
    • On Monday evening Rachel Maddow had retired Colonel Andrew Bacevich on her program to discuss IS in Iraq. Bacevich pointed out that the environment in the region would not change with military attacks. He brought up the Israel Palestine conflict (which has been out of view in the MSM again). Worth the watch and listen

  • Ohio student leader's dramatic act for Gaza
    • Great that Mondoweiss focused on her actions. While former CPT member and deceased Art Gish kept the I/P issue a hotbed issue in Athens Ohio and elsewhere for decades his and others persistent efforts to break down the wall of silence on O.U's campus was a challenge. Finally Megan's actions put the facts on the table on that campus.

      You can be sure Megan is up against a great deal of pressure. There are local music power houses in the Athens region (the wife of Jorma Kaukonen/ Vanessa) and their groupies (mostly uninformed) in the area who have been and are pushing back against the facts that Megan has been willing to expose with her visual actions The more support we can direct her way the better.

      Phil Weiss, Adam, Max, Anna Baltzer etc would be great guest speakers on that campus

  • The proportion of Gaza's children who were killed should shock conscience of weapons-suppliers
    • Susie out of town. Back in Athens in October. Student Senate President going to need all of the support she can get for her vivid actions...movement growing and growing. Thanks for all of your important work

    • Read, tears falling, heart breaking, soul ripped apart. And yes same feeling when I have read accounts of Israeli children being killed. However it is the violent, purposeful and extremely disproportionate amount of innocent Palestinians who have and continue to be so willfully massacred by the IDF.

      All of us who have followed, protested, lobbied our Reps etc etc about this issue for decades are well aware that the MSM's coverage of this issue shifted during the latest massacre in the Gaza. Every time I heard a report etc I so wanted the Joy Reid's. Chris Hayes, Melissa Harris Perry to show charts that would starkly point out the reality of the proportions and compare what it would look like if Israeli's, U.S. citizens etc faced the same kind of aggressor and suffer the same kind of massacre given the size of the population. Thank you. Will share far and wide.

      MSNBC's Joy Reid only one I hear bringing up the state of Gaza now. The slaughtered, the injured, the displaced, the trauma (8 year old Palestinian children having been through 3 wars in their short life times). Not much out of any other media outlet. You know the Al Sharpton's, Ed, Wolf Blitzer, Andrea Mitchell, Rachel Maddow's, Chris Matthew's of the MSM. Stone cold cowardly silence

  • Tzipi Livni's vacation nightmare
    • While Jon and team's effort to put out some facts on this issue. Stewart is part of the better late than never crowd. Let a decade go by where he went along. Came out when it was much safer. Again better late than never. He has a great deal of power...finally using if fairly on this critical issue

    • Tripni can continue to tear signs with the facts on them, however the cat is out of the bag. No way to shut down the fact that Israel is the aggressor, has committed horrendous crimes against humanity for decades, and continues to be in violation of UN resolutions and international law. Still expanding illegal settlements in the West Bank.

      This week on MSNBC's Morning Joe General Zinni was prompted to discuss illegal settlements by journalist Ayman Moyhedin and said that the continued illegal settlement expansion in the West Bank is "the beginning of the end of the two state solution."

      Yesterday MSNBC's Joy Reid did another segment on the Gaza. The death and destruction. The Palestinians killed, injured, displaced. The Palestinian children traumatized. 8 year old Palestinian children who have been through three Israeli massacres of Palestinian people.

      The cat is out of the bag..Tripni. Face the facts. The Apartheid government of Israel has been exposed as well as how many Israeli citizens supported the latest massacre and the others. How many Israeli citizens support the continued expansion of illegal settlements.

  • Israel's right wing Zionists, Palestine's militant resistance are political winners after Gaza slaughter
    • Redongdiculous. However while the U.S. MSM is loaded up with coverage about these horrific beheadings. Still little to no coverage or accounting for U.S. torture and killings at Abu Gharib, black sites and Gitmo. Horrendous crimes against humanity have been committed by many. A true accounting is important.

      I totally support ransoms for journalist who have put their own lives on the line to report accurately. Understand that those ransoms cannot be from the government.

    • This morning (Wednesday) on MSNBC's Morning Joe they actually had an expert about the middle east on who stood against the invasion of Iraq. General Zinni instead of their regular's like Iraq warmongers Bill Kristol, Thomas Friedman, Danille Pletka etc. Zinni was very clear about U.S. options in regard to IS. Zinni stated that the U.S. did not have "much choice" but could not deal with IS "unilaterally"

      Ayman Mohyelden actually brought up potential root causes of the violence towards U.S. He asked Zinni about the ongoing illegal expansion of Israel's west bank settlements. Zinni avoided the root causes issue but did say that Israel's continued illegal actions were the "beginning of the end" for a two state solution.

      Few talking about these innocent journalist who have been so brutally killed being in orange suits and the connection to U.S. killings and torture in Abu Gharib, black sites and Gitmo.

  • British pol is beaten by man in Israeli army t-shirt, and the chattering classes are silent
    • Eva are so right.

    • Thanks for this report Phil. Galloway one of my heroes. His commitment to justice is impenetrable. His decades long awareness and witness to the crimes committed against Palestinians and brave actions to put a halt to Israel's crimes has been steadfast.

      If a pro Israel individual had been beaten this way in the U.K. it would be all over the media. Thanks for the heads up.

      Yesterday (Monday) watched C-Span's coverage of the Canadian parliament discussing recent events etc. One member after the next brought up Israel's recent slaughter in the Gaza. Cameron, Gerald Kaufman, Jeremy Corbyn. Cameron was surprisingly outspoken. More members (did not get all of their names) demanding that Canadian weapons sales etc to Israel be halted. Israel's "land grab" "land theft" in the West Bank brought up over and over again. How terribly counter productive Israel's actions continue to be.

      Too bad U.S. Rep's continue to refuse to apply such independent and factual thinking to U.S. policies towards Israel.

  • I see five bears
    • Great story but the "step towards" bears not so wise. Lots of hiking in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming etc. Yes bear encounters but not up too close. Have read to many stories about the up too close. One very uncomfortable scene was when I turned back from a hike in Montana near Glacier (on Blackfeet Indian reservation) with six adults five kids (11-13). Kids were tired and wanted to go back to cabin so I volunteered to hike back with them. Looking down at creek bed a Griz came out of underbrush looked our direction and then headed the other way. Terrifying. Last time I hiked alone with bunch of kids in that neck of the woods.

      This past year two black bear break in'd in our old 1940's trailer up on family land in Colorado at 9500 ft. First times in 37 years of owning land. Open Peppermint tea pack in cupboard. Read they love the smell of mint. Ripped through a door that was two sheet metal layers with hardwood in between. Now nothing left in cupboards and they hate the smell of ammonia. Watched a herd of elk every night this summer. Largest coyote group up close to sleeping quarters than ever before. Wild donkeys, mountain lion, read tailed hawks, eagles, pronghorn antelope, fox, buffalo...all up near south park. Beauty and destruction all taking place on this amazing planet

  • Coming to a campus near you: ADL recruits student politicians for Israel trips
    • BDS etc will certainly "collide" with ADL's new efforts to influence by offering free trips etc to college campus leaders who are politically involved. But for any student who is thinking fairly the racism inherent in ADL's stance will become apparent. Increase on college campuses in the Palestinian justice movement is growing by leaps and bounds...pressure on Israel is and will continue to grow no matter how many U.S. students ADL, Birthright etc send into the conflict.

  • Our new look
    • I agree about the closing down a thread to comments. Oh and the great links that folks provide often to information that has not been tapped into by the great Mondoweiss team. The research of others so worthwhile.

      Phil and team while driving my 86 year old mother from Ohio to Colorado this summer subjected myself and others in car to Rush Limbaugh (driver gets to pick the radio station) for some hours. Have done this to myself for years. Every hour there is a short segment about how Israel is under attack by the media. How the MSM is now portraying Hamas and Israel as "moral equivalents" They play a clip of Allen Dershowitz ranting. Yep while travelling across Missouri heard this segment six times.

  • My life during the war
    • Rana thank you for this important first hand account. Although you, your family no one should be experiencing these kinds of human rights injustices. No one. The death and destruction is horrific and war crimes have clearly been committed by Israel again. Having Israeli bombs drop near you killing , witnessing the bloody crimes against innocent people will be in your bones forever. I have talked with many Nakba victims and for them it was like yesterday.

      You are right to say that people in the U.S. etc should be more outraged doing more. You are right. However far more people are becoming aware and are taking action. Far more Jews have become involved in this very serious issue over the last decade. A real change in the movement in the U.S. A very good shift.

      You are right to call all of us to act more. Contact our Reps and say no no no to aid to Israel. Folks can contact If Americans Knew to send for information packets, brochures etc to hand out on college campuses, churches, synagogues, mosque etc.

      Thank you again for this first hand account. More and more are taking action

  • Hillary Clinton's 11th-hour diplomacy
    • Clinton more than likely has the election sown up...but she will not have all of the progressives like myself knocking on doors, running GOTV campaigns, pulling in hundreds of voluntteers etc etc as I have done since I was 16 (now 62) for Dems. No no no Hillary is far too much of a right wing warmonger for me. Will not do it

    • And Warren has repeated Israel and the I lobbies must repeats about Iran. Repeated unsubstantiated claims about Iran.

  • 'Bombing the Dead' -- Max Blumenthal in Gaza
    • Israel "bombing the dead" and the living into oblivion. And the Star of David carved into Palestinian homes on belongings sure does stir up thoughts about swastikas on Jewish homes during WWII. I don't usually like to draw a parallel but this effort to rub salt in the Palestinians wounds is so cold and calculated on top of such brutality

  • Israeli soldiers carved Stars of David in homes in Gaza, report Blumenthal and Cohen
    • There is no doubt that this is anti semitic. Now as you report there is no direct evidence of just who carved these symbols into Palestinians homes etc. But there is no doubt anti semitic. Destroy homes, shatter lives and then leave a mark. We have seen this type of horrific and criminal behavior in the past. Call it what it is

  • Cuomo and Zuckerman take a suckers' tour of tunnels (a few miles from massacres they can't make time for)
  • 15 airplanes to fly over NY and NJ beaches with Israeli flags and We Love Israel banner
  • We must target our politicians' 'cowardice' in the face of war crimes --Trevor Hogan's impassioned speech in Dublin
    • Powerful...Trevor has seen Israel's war crimes up close. His message is clear contact your Reps...demand that aid to Israel be stopped, demand that they stop supporting Israel no matter what they do. Keep pushing. Go Trevor

  • Washington D.C.’s 'Day of Rage' directs ire at U.S. complicity in Gaza assault
    • Great report Adam. Sorry to miss these protest. I too have attended pro Palestinians marches in D.C. over several decades. One in particular about 12 or so years ago was filled with older Palestinians. Spent the day talking with many folks in their 80's who had been forced from their homes and villages during the creation of Israel. Many extremely sad stories. Of course CNN, MSNBC etc never there to cover these protest.

      The counter protesters look like a small and angry group. Facts just get in their way.

  • Watch: Young Israeli Jew at Western Wall calls for 'another war and another war and another war and another war'
    • Brutal and ugly racism spewed out of these young people's mouths. Racist...and then they gloat about it. The one young man said "not in front of the camera" so one knows that this racism is even more ugly off camera.

  • Video: Israeli sniper kills Palestinian protester in Hebron
    • Over at Informed Comment Prof Cole has some truth zingers up. Prof Cole " Humanitarian Mission may sound good to American ears, but there is not way a few food drops can make up for what the U.S. did to Iraq." For several decades. Hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, more than likely a million Iraqi people injured. You never hear Chris Matthews etc use the term "genocide" for those U.S. actions.

    • Annie/all been reading a bit about the Palestinian children being sent to Caracas Venezuela. Orphans? Is this a new way to get rid of future generations of Palestinian children. Kill their parents send them away.

      On Saturday NPR's Jackie Northam reported about an Israeli border town to the Gaza Nativ Haasara and Gaza tunnels. So lop sided. She had the sound of Israeli kibbutz kids splashing in swimming pools and said nothing about Israeli control of water. Israeli swimming pools not far from Gaza. Never hear anything about whether the land that this kibbutz is on was stolen land, the site of a Palestinian village. Not finding much on the web about that particular kibbutz. Annie, Phil think you might be interested in that NPR story. Never anything about how Palestinian people in Gaza get much needed supplies through these tunnels.

      Interested in where these tunnels led to.

    • On and on and on this Israeli unbridled killing of innocent people. No U.S. humanitarian aid lifts to Palestinian people in Gaza. No talk of arming them so they could protect themselves.

      Kerry "hell of a pinpoint operation"
      Netanyahu "proportionate, just"

  • Six arrested in civil disobedience at Federation offices in Philly
    • The willingness in Jewish communities across the U.S. to stand up against the horrific injustices that Palestinians have been suffering at the hands of the Israeli government and supported by a majority of Israeli citizens for six decades is so refreshing. A real and new change over the last 5- 10 years. Such an important change

  • 'An extreme rightwing regime behaving in the most criminal fashion and defying the world and unscrupulously using the Holocaust to justify what they're doing'
    • The killing of Palestinians along with destruction of their homes, illegal confiscation of their lands, destruction of olive trees etc took place under so called left wing Israeli governments too. David Norris finally stepping up to the plate is a good thing. But don't pretend this violence has not been taking place for decades. Myth.

      Phil you have to be notcing how often the word genocide is being used in reference to the potential mass killing of Yazidis how that same powerful word was never used in reference to Palestinians. Obama, Kerry, Chris Matthews, etc all using genocide, genocide....never for Palestinians.

  • Gaza 2014 has clarified the international struggle
    • Chris Matthews said the G word over and over last evening in reference to the Yazidi's. Genocide is being mentioned all over the MSM, Fox, CNN,MSNBC. Not ever in reference to the Palestinians and what just took place in the Gaza

    • Chris Matthews said the G word over and over last evening in reference to the Yazidi's. Genocide is being mentioned all over the MSM, Fox, CNN,MSNBC. Not eve in reference to the Palestinians

  • Even Wieseltier is upset by 'indifference in Jewish world' to Gaza slaughter and wholehearted Israeli support for it
    • We all know the truth to this question the reaction would be very different. Racist issue at the core.

  • On being accused of anti-semitism by well meaning liberals
  • What will tomorrow bring for Gaza -- a lasting truce or continuous war?
    • thanks going to watch that Charlie Rose. No mincing of words with those two. Clear and concrete

    • Tamara represents apartheid lite angle. She went on and on about how both sides have their "narratives" She seems to slide by historical facts both past and present

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