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  • Obama gave the dirty work to Abbas and now both are soiled
  • MSNBC airs Greenwald saying Israel flouts NPT and 'slaughters' neighbors
    • I know I read that article by Justin Raimando
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      But comments over at Huff Po have really opened up over there on the I/P conflict far more than at Crooks and Liars (blog clog when it comes to the I/P conflict, Goldstone report etc) This topic is also basically closed down at Firedoglake. Oh a few post at Seminal but the heavy hitting bloggers over there Jane Hamsher, Marcy Wheeler will basically not touch this issue.

      But comments over at Huff Po have been coming on strong and well informed.
      But Arianna still carrying the I lobbies water

    • Here is the transcript from El Baradei's press conference in Iran today

      he does sort of target Israel here

      Transcript of the IAEA Director Generals remarks at the Joint Press Conference with the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran 4 October 2009

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    • Glenn was great although having those misiles going off and the inflammatory words in those boxes going by while he was blowing holes in the unsubstantiated claims that are repeated about Iran was surrea.

      On the other hand Arianna Huffington repeating the debunked claim that Iran 'wants to wipe Israel off the map" Christ does she read? Professor Juan Cole debunked that false claim several years ago. Direct translation "zionism will vanish from the page of history" to "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map" did Arianna get her script from Bill Kristol or what?

      Glenn ripped it up.

      Chris Matthews was the first to ask "will Israel attack Iran' Matthews also was one of the only MSMer's to challenge Bill Kristol , Frum, Ledeen and the rest.

      But has not touched the Goldstone report, or had Flynt Leverett, Scott Ritter of Juan Cole on to discuss Iran. Come on finally had Glenn on now bring on the rest of the informed and brilliant Leverett, Ritter and Cole

      Arianna sounds like she is carrying water for the Israeli firster warmongers

  • ElBaradei's talking about Israeli nukes
  • At Yom Kippur, shame over Madoff (and for Gaza--bupkus)
    • Just who were these "Senior staff members of the United Nations nuclear agency have concluded in a confidential analysis that Iran has acquired “sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable” atom bomb."

      That Sanger allegedly accessed

      And who are these "european officials"? That Sanger claims to have talked with about this report that has not been released.
      "But the report’s conclusions, described by senior European officials, go well beyond the public positions taken by several governments, including the United States.

      More multiple sources referred to by Sanger in that artilce
      " But in August, a public report to the board of the I.A.E.A. by its staff concluded that the evidence of Iran’s alleged military activity was probably genuine.

      It said “the information contained in that documentation appears to have been derived from multiple sources over different periods of time, appears to be generally consistent, and is sufficiently comprehensive and detailed that it needs to be addressed by Iran with a view to removing the doubts” about the nature of its nuclear program.

    • Dam shazam
      Check this out
      Check this out New York Times Sanger comes out quoting anonymous sources and an alleged unreleased report...where have we heard this before

      New York Times article by Sanger
      Report Says Iran Has Data to Make a Nuclear Bomb
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      Boom Jones strikes back the next day
      Does Iran have data to build a nuclear bomb? No, says US.
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    • Security Adviser Jim Jones knocks out the New York Times story about a 'special report"

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    • That bible know that book written by a bunch of Jewish guys claiming the "chosen people" horseshit and claims to a piece of property.

      Greatest real estate and Public relations scam of all time

    • All of that contradiction. Day of Atonement and you completely avoid people that Israel is busy oppressing. The hypocrisy is just too much to take.

      These types of contradictions is why I left the Catholic Church long ago. Don't need to go into a church, synagogue or mosque to talk with God, Yahweh, Allah, the Great Spirit. Certainly do not need those places to walk the talk.

      Hey are there any synagogues in your area that Rabbi Lerner and his beliefs, honesty and teachings are part of?

      Did you feel like standing up and having a Joe "you lie" Wilson moment?

  • Among the Shministim-- excommunication and self-hatred
  • Israeli refusers bring 'a declaration of sanity' to New York City
  • Obama has reaffirmed double standard for Israel/Iran on NPT
    • Juan Cole helping to take the spin out of the Iran issue. Also a great clip of Ron Paul talking about the Iran "hype"

      Saturday, October 03, 2009
      Russia, China, Satisfied with 10/1/09 Talks

      The US plan to place further sanctions on Iran for its nuclear energy research program may founder at the United Nations Security Council because of the reluctance of Russia and China to see the sanctions ratcheted up.

      link to

    • And Israel has gotten into trouble trying to sell China

      U.S. Arms Sales to Israel End Up In China, Iraq
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      This was after Israel got caught
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    • Worth the listen folks. Scott was right in the run up to the invasion of Iraq and few listened.

      Let's hope some folks are listening now.

      Scott makes so many great points. forgot about how much money the Bush administration and the Israeli firsters had sent over to undermine the Iranian elections.

      the 24/7 coverage of the Iranian election and protest was so telling. The warmongers still in control of the MSM and still pushing for an escalation with Iran

    • Recent interview with Former Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter about the "gotcha" situation with Iran

      Former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter discusses the overblown “gotcha” revelation of the “secret” Iranian nuclear facility, how the wonkish debate over IAEA Additional Protocol minutiae turned into accusations that Iran is building nukes, the secret Saudi, U.K. and U.S. funding of opposition candidates in the Iranian election and the likely disastrous results of a war with Iran.
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    • Barbara Slavin brought up this article today on the Diane Rehm show. Had never heard about it.

      Does anyone know if you can access the agreement on line? Or how long this agreement last? Did anyone in the MSM or blogoshere write about this when the meeting happened?

  • sex, lies, and Vince Foster
    • Chris Matthews has spent so much time on Bill Clinton on his program...especially about the lies underoath about blowjobs.

      Just wish Chris Matthews would start playing hardball again on the Intelligence snowjob that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead, injured , and millions displaced.

      Matthews hammered away before the invasion and then beat on Cheney for a very long time

      Chris Matthews beat down bloggers the other night. Referring to them as people in pajamas in basements. Told him during the Libby trial that he needed to jump on Emptywheels and find out for himself what was really going on some of the blogs.

      These MSM folks know they are on their way down sliding down. And as long as they do not do their jobs we well keep flooding the blogs

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      "The big thing was this: It was Tim Russert who had that conversation with Scooter Libby where Libby complained about what he considered Chris Matthews biased coverage of the administration and the start of the war. It was that conversation, which Libby later falsely told aFBI agents and a federal grand jury that he found out about Valerie Plame's identity, from Russert."

  • Maybe tail won't wag dog this time
    • It is amazing that Ken Pollack is still walking the streets.

      Maybe he is feeling bad or vulnerable for all of the lies that he told in the run to the invasion of Iraq. Well forget that. maybe he feels he is still being watched

      Remember Ken Pollack was allegedly US GO-1 in the Aipac espionage investigation
      AIPAC Spy Nest Exposed
      The indictment outlines a series of meetings between Rosen, Weissman, and U.S. government officials (”USGO-1″ and “USGO-2″) about “classified United States strategy against a Middle Eastern country” and top-secret intelligence regarding al-Qaeda, which the AIPAC officials related to various individuals identified as “a foreign national” and “Foreign Official 2 (FO-2).” These meetings spanned a time frame from the winter of 2000 to the winter of 2002.

      Aipac indictment files
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      David Satterfield was named as US Go 2 in the Aipac Espionage investigation. Ken Pollack US GO 1
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  • Dowd breaks 'Times' seal on Safire's 'influential' religion
    • did Safire ever write about the I/P issue? Or was he part of the filtering system that has kept the truth about the I/P conflict from the pages of the New York Times ?

      Where was he on the invasion of Iraq? Was he with Judy "I was fucking right" Miller ?

  • Yom Kippur prayers can include Muslims
  • Arianna's friends
    • ARianna reaching out and opening up on this issue. Her site truly was occupied territory a couple of years ago. Good sign

  • Safire's former employer won't let on that his 'deepest affections were for Israel'
    • Buchanan called out the lobby long ago and has paid a price for telling the truth about the influence on our foreign policy

    • Sounds like Safire was one of the ways the lobby and Israel controlled space in the New York Times. Well along with the owners of the Times and many other Jewish reporters who have demonstrated the ability to be fair and balanced reporters.

      No control of the U.S. media by Israel and the I lobby . Come on that is a conspiracy theory

  • Dimona on my mind
    • The nuclear arms race started over 50 years ago in Israel. The last President to challenge Israel and demand that they open up to inspections was President Kennedy. He wrote Ben Gurion demanding that they open up to inspections.

      The last President to really challenge Israel and their unwillingness to play by the same rules that they wanted their neighbors to play by.

  • Neocons pushing regime change at point of a gun, again
    • "Funny how the neocons always project Israel’s bad behavior on others. "

      Not just the neocons. This has been a strategy of those who support Israel no matter what for very long time.

      At least we can be thankful that Chris Matthews even touches this issue. Rachel Maddow Silence... Keith Olbermann...Silence Ed beating the war drums

      Matthews asked the question that needed to be asked "Will Israel attack Iran"

      Matthews was one of the only MSMer's that went hard on the Bill Kristols , David Frum, Hadley , Wolfowitz, Cheney and the other warmongering thugs. Hell Scooter Libby even made a phone call to Tim Russert about Chris Matthews asking tough questions about the intelligence and need for the invasion of Iraq.

      I thought Micheal Rubin demonstrated the dual loyalty qualities that many who did everything they could to lie our nation into Iraq during his interview with Matthews. When Chris Matthews asked should we attack Iran now Rubin responded "not yet"

      Rubin is part of the team that wants an attack on Iran without a doubt.

      Just wish Matthews would have Flynnt Leverett, Juan Cole, Scott Ritter or someone who could really pose a real debate and question Israel's agenda and hold on our foreign policy

      Chris Matthews one of the only MSMer's willing to ask a few serious questions

  • Is Rahm Emanuel washing his hands?
    • Do what Dennis Ross did feed the MSM was all Arafat's fault ..

    • When Obama selected Rahm for that spot ..the message was clear as usual.

    • "If you don’t make progress and engage in the process of making peace," he
      continued, "you give Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran, who are enemies of the peace
      process, and vocal opponents of it, a veto."

      We can put money on it that Rahm made the call to the lobby and Israel letting them know that the U.s. will block any effort to hold Israel responsible for war crimes in the Gaza.

      Obviously Israel can do no wrong in Rahms eyes..No wrong

  • 'Washington Post' highlights statement that Leonard Cohen validates occupation
  • Today, Obama wins
    • Schumer “To make absolute statements, particularly when in the past Israel has sort of done everything the Palestinians asked and they still won’t give her peace is to me a counter productive policy,” Sen. Charles Schumer said."

      What an arrogant prick Schumer continues to be "sort of done everything" who does he think is swallowing this bull

  • White House phones Jewish leaders to promise veto on Goldstone
    • New York Times promoted the invasion of Iraq without question. With Judy "I was fucking right" Miller feeding her unconfirmed articles to the public without oversight. Lies Lies and more lies.

      Judy could give a rats ass that she is drowning in the Iraqi peoples blood. If there is a hell that woman is going

    • "Both our parties today are corrupted by support for extreme Israeli actions in that region that are destroying our brand across the Middle East. And when phone calls like this happen, you gotta wonder who’s got a stranglehold here."

      Been the case for a long time. The I/P conflict s is where all of the alleged liberal Dems generally took a hard turn right (wrong)

    • Would put money on it that Rahm made the call. Just can not figure out why Obama chose him to be Chief of Staff.

      Anyway to find out who made that call

  • Campus BDS movement looks to grow with Fall conference
  • Israeli filmmaker to Jerry Seinfeld: 'Don't cooperate with the occupation'
    • I am a big fan of Seinfeld but Did you ever watch Jerry Seinfield or Larry Davis take on any other prejudice besides anti-semitism. Definitely heard them bring up this issue up in several episodes. Never any other type of prejudice or other genocides.

      Sasha Cohen focused on 'anti semitism' in Borat but have never watched him even insinuate there are other prejudices in the world.

      Would not have expected any other response from these two guys. Unable to extend concerns about prejudices and bigotry to other issues or peoples

  • 'NYT' left out Kristol's Israel-firstism (and what about those neocon women!)
    • Where are they?

      Hell Judy "I was fucking right" Miller was front and center on lying our nation into needless and immoral war

    • It was evident to many in 1973 that the I lobby was part of the team to take McGovern out of play. Folks talked about this issue behind the scenes some like Vanessa Redgrave, Edward Said talked about it out loud.

      the myth that Dems are "liberals" is just that a myth. especially on the I/P conflict many Jews and others intimidated by the Israeli firsters always took a hard turn right (wrong) even if they did not know a thing about the history of the region

  • Brand Israel has failed in Toronto because 'the issue is the product, not the marketing'
    • "Why such an over the top counter-attack?" because this response generally works and has shut down the debate in the past.

      Really appreciate Muzzlewatch.

      Will you be focusing any post on how Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann etc completely ignored the Goldstone UN Report?

      They had to tell us for the thousandth time that Joe Wilson said "you lie" during Obama;s health care speech.

      Not a whisper out of Rachel or Keith about the UN Report not a whisper

  • Question to LA Times: 'Isn't it standard journalistic practice to ask for a response, especially when throwing around slanders like "Jew haters?"'
  • feeling more hate in Jerusalem
  • Oberlin students protest Benny Morris appearance Wednesday
    • And it continues today

    • the Palestinians did not murder Jews in Europe

    • thanks for this My oldest daughter (now32) went to Oberlin. Great institution..surprising that Benny Morris is going to speak. Sure the students will speak out..hopefully

      Wonder when Oberlin will have Former Jimmy Carter on campus to speak. If they do Daniel Pipe and his extremely biased team will go ballistic

      So wonderful to watch these groups on campus grow in support of Justice in the I/P conflict. Organizations like Campus Watch (Daniel Pipes) sure kept the anti apartheid (Israel) movement tapped down for years.

      the situation is changing

  • 'NYT' blackout of Judge Goldstone continues
    • Did you hear Amy Goodman's interview with Professor Norman Finkelstein on the Goldstone Report?

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      "NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: The report found that the Palestinians were guilty of war crimes because of its indiscriminate and intentional firing on civilians in Israel. I’m not trying to make any apologies, but I want to get the facts right. The Goldstone report, like the Amnesty report and the others, you have to look carefully at the proportions. About nine-tenths—literally, about nine-tenths of the Goldstone report, like the Dugard report, like the Amnesty report, about nine-tenths was devoted to Israeli war crimes; about one-tenth was devoted to Palestinian war crimes. And you have to understand why, because you have to look at the comparable damage. The ratio of killings was about a hundred to one: about—exactly thirteen on the Israeli side, about fourteen hundred on the Palestinian side. If you look at the damage, the damage is actually quite astonishing. Israel just systematically blasted everything in sight and reduced it to rubble, whereas on the Israeli side they say that several houses were damaged and one was almost completely destroyed. So if you look at the facts, the facts on the ground, the proportions in the reports, including the Goldstone report, are correct. It’s about ten to one.

      And that’s why yesterday’s—or today’s headline in the New York Times is so misleading. It’s like a Pravda headline. It says the Goldstone report finds both sides guilty of war crimes. Well, that’s technically true, but an accurate headline would have read, “Goldstone reports Israel guilty of massive war crimes and also faults Hamas.” That’s what a true headline would have read. "

      Norman points out how this report
      "NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: I personally don’t think that’s yet going to go very far, because the US has effective power to block it.

      What’s significant about the report, in my opinion, and what’s significant about what happened in Gaza, I think it marks a major turning point. It’s like the Sharpville massacre in South Africa. Now, Sharpville is not Soweto, but Sharpville was a turning point. Richard Goldstone is a liberal. Richard Goldstone is very supportive of Israel. And it’s now marking the breakup of liberal Jewish support for Israel. And as we both know and as all of your listeners know, Jews are overwhelmingly liberal in their sentiment. Seventy-nine percent of Jews in the last election voted for Obama. And what you’re seeing now is the breakup of Jewish support for Israel.

      You saw during the Gaza massacre you had some of the old-timers like Alan Dershowitz, Michael Walzer, characters—Martin Peretz, characters like that, you know, kind of comical figures coming out supporting Israel. But if you looked at the younger Jewish—the younger Jewish constituency—bloggers like Matt Yglesias, Glenn Greenwald and so forth—they all opposed the Gaza massacre from almost like day one or day two. And then you had significant defections, like Andrew Sullivan, who—not Jewish, but still a significant figure, who also came out against the Gaza massacre.

      So I think now what you’re seeing, especially with the Goldstone report, especially with his stature, especially because he’s Jewish, especially because he’s a liberal, what it’s signaling now, is the breakup of Jewish support and liberal support—and those are basically the same thing—the breakup of liberal Jewish support for Israel. "

    • The blackout of the Goldstone UN report continues on Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Ed Show etc. Maybe they will tell continue to tell us for the thousandth time that Joe Wilson yelled "you lie" during President Obama health care speech

  • Goldstone went to Gaza's Ground Zero: the police massacre
    • please push the 'report abuse" choice. Out of line way out of line

    • Goldstone is confirming that he is fair and focuses on the law.

      But our MSM's basic silence about this report confirms the ongoing hypocrisy and double standards in our media , congress and public in regard to other slaughters when it does not involve Americans or Israeli's.


      Thanks for all you are doing Phillip and team

  • Talk to Ambassador Rice about the future
    • Rice "Our view is that we need to be focused on the future."

      yeah ignore all of those International reports about war crimes committed, the International World Courts decision that the wall is illegal along with the illegal and immoral settlements. Oh and also ignore all of the UN resolutions that Israel is in violation of.

      Sounds like Rice is taking her directions from the Israel rebranding team.

      "look to the future" sounds like the "move on, turn the page, next chapter" do not be about "retribution, or witch hunts" that many in the Obama administration and our congress keep repeating. What happened to being about justice and accountability.

      Can you imagine the UN or any other body telling Jews just "move on, look to the future, turn the page" etc when it came to the crimes committed against so many during the Hitlers regimes killing spree?

      The double standards and hypocrisy is so alarming.

      And if we take Rice's advice and A"look forward" you would be looking at the endless expansion of illegal settlements.

      Sure seems like the MSM took Rice's advice. Not a mention about this report on Rachel Maddow's, Keith Olbermann's (you know those liberal talking heads) The Diane Rehm show got right in line and did not even whisper about this report on the round up today.

      The one report on NPR tried to equate the war crimes committed by Israel as the same as the war crimes committed by the Palestinians in the attack by Israel on the Gaza. Fair and balanced reporting...horseshit

      If it were not for Mondoweiss, Amy goodman and many international outlets. the people in the states would not have even heard about this report. Just the way the I lobby and Israel like to keep it

      the MSM stayed in line

  • Goldstone commission sees evidence of 'persecution'
    • Not a mention of this report on the Round up for the week on the Diane Rehm show this morning. I guess Diane is lining up behind the other MSMers who did not report anything at all about this critical report.

      Right behind Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann (those oh so liberal talking heads) Chris Matthews, Katie Couric, Brian Williams (even had the chance to bring it up with Carter during his interview with Carter about racism) Not a whisper about this report out of these folks. The Diane Rehm show got right in line with the silence

  • The BDS movement will continue to grow as long as Israel avoids accountability
    • barak never signed the deal this is a myth. the right wing zionist spun this as Arafats fault. From what I water deal, no right of return and no compensation for stolen lands. Not as good of deal as it was spun.

      But what else is new?

      All failings were blamed ton Arafat

      In Carter's "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid" Carter reminds us that Barak had not signed the deal either.

    • Interesting take.....makes sense...hope you are right

    • Laura Flanders doing some great interviews and work on this issue
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      International pressure is mounting on Israel to end the occupation. More than 1,000 filmmakers, actors, and writers recently called for a protest of the Toronto Film Festival’s spotlight on Tel-Aviv. You can read the Toronto Declaration here. Meanwhile an international boycott is growing. Neve Gordon, in a recent editorial, explains why it is time to boycott Israel. Since then he has received harsh criticism from within Israel but also a great deal of support. He says that The Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctionscampaign is the only way to save Israel from itself. Launched by Palestinian activists in 2005 the BDS movement has now become a global effort.

      Diana Buttu, a former spokesperson for the Palestine Liberation Organization, Gordon, a senior lecturer at Ben-Gurion Univesity and the author of Israel's Occupationir?t=lauraflanders-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0520255313, and Phyllis Bennis, Director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies on organizing to end the occupation. To find out more about what you can do visit


      Obviously off limits or is it their choice not to mention this report

    • Just keep refusing to freeze those settlements...and the anger keeps building. Has been interesting to watch the resistance to the BDS movement ove r the last 10 or 15 years on campuses. Daniel Pipes Campus Watch along with other efforts have been successful at blocking this movement on college campuses. No such concerted effort during the late 70's into the 80's against the anti apartheid movements on campuses.

      The movement is starting to grow due to folks persistent and co-ordinated efforts.

      Phillip you folks are adding to those efforts in a huge way. Thanks for your commitment to justice for the Palestinians and the Israeli's

      I think Israel continues to do themselves harm

  • Jimmy Carter, revolving-door prophet
    • chaos 1700

      while I admire Rachel's intellect she has seem to have bought out to the bad Muslims script. Bad Iran script. She even repeats the debunked lie that the Iranian President said "wipe Israel off the map" Professor Juan Cole cleared up the purposely mistranslated and endlessly repeated statement. Why Rachel continues to repeat this along with never challenging anyone who says Iran has or is developing an alleged nuclear weapons program.

      Where are the challenging questions "where is the hard evidence"

      The former and present head of the Iaea have both said there is "no hard evidence"

      For Keith and Rachel to ignore this UN report is oh so telling.

      I guess they need to keep repeating the Joe "you lie" Wilson line.

    • Terri Gross is part of the team who repeats the unsubstantiated claims about Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program. I have heard her do it so many times I have lost count. she also continually repeated and debunked 'wipe Israel off the map" statement that the Iranian President is claimed to have said. Juan Cole debunked that statement several years ago.

      So Terri not only does not challenge anyone who repeats these claims she repeats them herself.

      Jimmy Carter has taken a beating but he never goes down. His faith and his belief in a fair and just peace in the middle east keeps him a float and gains a great deal of admiration from many of us.

      wonder if Brian Williams, Rachel, Keith, Katthews. Blitzer or any of the other liberal leaning folks will ever touch the UN Report. Will not be holding my breath

      hell if it were not for your site as well as Amy Goodman the so called progressive blogosphere might be a bit void about this issue

    • Phillip I was thinking the very same thing when I saw Carter. Not a whisper during the interview about the UN report. Even those liberal talking heads like Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann have not touched it. You think their producers say no no no.

      I thought both Keith and Rachel have said they are somewhat in control on what is on their programs.

      When I challenged Chris Matthews at the Libby trial (talked with him 5 minutes or so) I asked him why he never touches the I/P conflict (all ready knew the answer) Just wanted to hear what he would say. His response "I do not control the programming at MSNBC. At the time Tim Russert did...I believe

      what is up with Keith and Rachel...too chicken shit to toucht it of forbidden.

      They have to tell us for the hundredth time about what Joe Wilson said during Obama's health care speech. ay yi yi

  • Desperation: Canadian newspaper likens Naomi Klein to.... Goebbels
    • this is just more efforts to distract from what Naomi and the rest are pointing at. The effort to rebrand Israel and celebrating Israel at a film festival that should be attempting to be neutral not promoting a certain city, country, agenda etc. The focus should be on the fellow who allowed this to happen not Naomi

    • Now Naomi is experiencing what it has been like for anyone who challenges the policies of Israel or those who support those policies. Naomi Klein will rip up their weak arguments. She is brilliant, calm and full of a commitment to justice.

      We are right behind you Naomi...

  • the Gaza international lip service
    • Not a mention about the UN report by Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann those liberal journalist. Too chicken shit or bought out to go where no other MSMer will go

  • After UN commission charges Gaza war crimes, PBS affords Michael Oren a platform
    • good idea

      Professor Juan Cole's latest interview with Scott Horton
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    • The problem is that Iranian President Ahmadenejad never said Iran wants to 'wipe Israel off the map" Professor Juan Cole debunked that unsubstantiated and endlessly repeated claim several years ago. Although folks like Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Stephanapoulous, Bob Schieffer, David Gregory and many more have allowed that debunked statement to be repeated so often it is tough to keep count. Hell I have heard NPR's Fresh Air host Terri Gross repeat "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map" numerous times herself.

      The media is doing about as good as job on the Iran situation as they did in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. They are not challenging anyone who repeats these unsubstantiated claims about Iran.

      Professor Juan Cole at Informed Comment

      "But the actual quote, which comes from an old speech of Khomeini, does not imply military action, or killing anyone at all. The second reason is that it is just an inexact translation. The phrase is almost metaphysical. He quoted Khomeini that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." It is in fact probably a reference to some phrase in a medieval Persian poem. It is not about tanks.

      Since Mr. Hitchens wants to splash my private mail all over the internet against my will, as though he were himself an agent of the Bush Administration's electronic spying on the private conversations of Americans, I'm glad to share the message that encapsulates the results of our deliberations at Gulf2000."

      link to


      so here we go again Israel flipping the script, distraction, unwilling to take any responsibility for their crimes, divert, distract and deny

  • Fonda Vanessa
    • Agree the tide turned over at Huff Po

    • Naomi Klein can really take the heat. She is so brilliant and clear. She can turn their twisted words and false claims around on the folks who play the anti-semite or self hating Jew card and knock them over with her reason and brilliance. She should be the spokesperson for the group of folks who signed the petition....

    • good idea...encourage folks to walk the talk

    • Have posted that twice. maybe Huff po is opening up a bit.

    • Vanessa by light years. Jane does not even come close. Meryl is a contender

    • I keep wondering what did the Jewish Defense League say to Vanessa Redgrave or threaten her with?

      I had no idea that the F.B.I identified the JDL as a terroist organization
      link to
      In its report, Terrorism 2000/2001, the FBI referred to the JDL as a "violent extremist Jewish organization" and stated that the FBI was responsible for thwarting at least one of its terrorist acts.[40] The National Consortium for the Study of Terror and Responses to Terrorism states that, during the JDL's first two decades of activity, it was an "active terrorist organization."[2] The JDL was specifically referenced by the FBI's Executive Assistant Director Counterterrorism/Counterintelligence, John S. Pistole, in his formal report before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the United States.[2]

      Paddy Chafensky
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    • Paddy Chayefsky..brow beat Redgrave for using the Oscars as a means to "propogate her own political propoganda"

      How absurd his statement was. Hypocrisy

      Paddy somehow forgot to mention how producers and directors in Hollywood had been "promoting their own propaganda out of Hollywood since it's inception. They just happened to have more power , pull and $$$$$ than Redgrave. promote her

    • link to

      The Huffington Post: Israeli-Occupied Territory
      by Justin Raimondo, January 03, 2009
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      Pat Buchanan was widely vilified by the neocons and the politically correct left when he famously described the Congress of the United States as “Israeli-occupied territory.” Oh, what a conniption the liberals and the Commentary crowd had! That was during the countdown to the first Gulf War, when almost no one rose to object – and those who did, like Pat, were smeared for their trouble. Today, such an observation is hardly considered controversial: it is simply a known fact.

      There is more discussion in the Knesset over the pros and cons of US intervention in the Middle East on Israel’s behalf than there is in on Capitol Hill. There’s a sense in which this sort of uniformity must be a little embarrassing for the Lobby, in that it underscores their fear that a real debate will suddenly break out. The regularity with which the American Congress endorses every fresh Israeli atrocity has a certain deadening metronomic quality about it – and, while we’re on the subject of monotony, the American media, too, plays an identical role as advocate and staunch defender of the Israeli case, as a matter of course. The “mainstream” televised and dead-tree-media has historically been a reliable “reporter” of the merits of the Israeli case. Now, the wannabe “alternative” online media is following suit, with an alacrity that is none too surprising.

    • Who is Jane afraid of?

      Too bad she is backing off her stance. Pathetic really

    • Vanessa Redgrave was one of the first people in the states that I heard talk about this issue out loud. Her speech at the Oscars was really rather mild...but she went where no one else had.

      What Vanessa said
      "During the ceremony, Vanessa Redgrave won the Best Supporting Actress award for Julia, and, aware of members of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) protesting outside,[clarification needed] made the following comments:
      “ My dear colleagues, I thank you very much for this tribute to my work. I think that Jane Fonda, and I have done the best work of our lives and I think this is in part due to our director, Fred Zinnemann. [Audience applause.]

      And I also think it's in part because we believed and we believe in what we were expressing--two out of millions who gave their lives and were prepared to sacrifice everything in the fight against fascist and racist Nazi Germany.

      And I salute you, and I pay tribute to you, and I think you should be very proud that in the last few weeks you've stood firm, and you have refused to be intimidated by the threats of a small bunch of Zionist hoodlums [gasps from the audience, followed by a smattering of boos and clapping] whose behavior is an insult to the stature of Jews all over the world and their great and heroic record of struggle against fascism and oppression. [General applause]

      And I salute that record and I salute all of you for having stood firm and dealt a final blow against that period when Nixon and McCarthy launched a worldwide witch-hunt against those who tried to express in their lives and their work the truth that they believe in [some boos and hissing]. I salute you and I thank you and I pledge to you that I will continue to fight against anti-Semitism and fascism.

      Two hours later,[2] when it came his turn to announce an award winner (for Best Writing), Paddy Chayefsky, perturbed by what he perceived as "cracks about Jews"[2] at the Academy Awards, replied:
      “ Before I get on to the writing awards, there's a little matter I'd like to tidy up--at least if I expect to live with myself tomorrow morning. I would like to say, personal opinion, of course, that I'm sick and tired of people exploiting the Academy Awards [loud applause] for the propagation of their own personal propaganda.

      I would like to suggest to Miss Redgrave that her winning an Academy Award is not a pivotal moment in history, does not require a proclamation and a simple 'thank you' would have sufficed. [Loud applause.]"

  • UN fact finding mission finds that Israeli actions in Gaza amounted to war crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity
    • Excuse me the International World Court has determined as well as the UN that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land and has been for years. That the wall built at some points on Palestinian lands is illegal. And that the settlements are illegal.

      What is Hamas supposed to do offer them an olive branch. Israel has wiped out most of the Palestinians olive trees

    • How in the hell do they get Israel out of the occupied territories and to stop expanding and building illegal settlements? UN resolutions sure have not done the job

    • Start with why Hamas has ever shot off rockets. It is in response to the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, and the expansion of illegal settlements.

    • Even if you are not a humble and honest person and mention all of the folks who have been working on this critical issue for years.

      Too often people take credit for movements that have preceded their involvement and it is rather pathetic and shallow. Give the credit where the credit is due...much bigger person for it

    • NOTHING AT ALL ABOUT THIS ON MSNBC TONIGHT (unless I missed it) Those damn liberals Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann. Too damn chicken to report about this UN report. Do their producers have their hands tied. Or do Rachel and Keith just go along.

      So far looks like they just go along. So much for their brave and courageous reporting on critical issues

    • always flipping the script

      Who has the power?

    • If you did not hear Naomi Klein on Democracy Now yersterday. Worth It
      No Celebration of Occupation: 1,500 Artists and Writers Sign Letter Protesting Toronto Film Festival Decision to Spotlight Tel Aviv

      A protest at the Toronto International Film Festival has taken center stage after a group of artists and writers signed a letter of protest against the festival’s decision to spotlight the city of Tel Aviv. Activists say the TIFF spotlight plays into Israel’s attempt to improve its global image in the wake of the assault on the Gaza Strip and the ongoing occupation of Palestinian land. Over 1,500 people have signed the letter, called “The Toronto Declaration: No Celebration of Occupation,” including Jane Fonda, Viggo Mortensen, Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte. We speak with journalist and author Naomi Klein, who helped draft the letter. [includes rush transcript]

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      naomi as well as Medea Benjaman of Code Pink have jumped on the truth bus in regard to the Israeli Palestinian conflict the last few years. they would be wise to give credit for the actions of the past and focus on this issue to Former President Jimmy Carter, Edward Said, Archbishop Tutu, Norman Finkelstein, Art and Peggy Gish and so many more who have been focused on this issue for a very long time.

      I have often noticed that when folks jump on a justice bus some individuals have the tendency to act like this is a new movement or issue that they have inspired (Naomi has not done this) but folks would be wise to honor all of those who have come before them working for justice in the middle east

    • Will there be any accountability? Or will the government of Israel spin these findings too?

      wondering how the campaign to rebrand Israel's policies will spin this one.

      Thanks for Mondoweiss

  • On blacklists
    • When you own or run most of the messaging then you have control of the direction and perception

      This is a most interesting book
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      An Empire Of Their Own: How The Jews Invented Hollywood

      * by Neal Gabler. New York: Crown Publishers, Inc., 1988. Hardcover, 502 pp., illustrated, $24.95, ISBN 0-51746808 X.

      Reviewed by Jack Wikoff

      Much of An Empire of Their Own reads like a press agent release for the stereotypical Hollywood movie producer. Having originally subtitled his book How Zukor, Laemmle, Fox, Cohn and the Warner Brothers Invented Hollywood, author Neal Gabler provides valuable information about those Jews who came to dominate the film industry during the nineteen-twenties, thirties and forties.

      Undoubtedly the subtitle was changed to How the Jews Invented Hollywood to promote more effectively the myth that Jews singlehandedly created the film industry. Reading An Empire of Their Own may cause one to be ultra-conscious of whether a film producer, director, actor or technician is Jewish or not. One reviewer has written that "if misread, the book could provide fuel for anti-Semitism." This may or may not be true. What is certain is that the history of cinema is now old enough for us to see the extraordinary power this medium has had upon the political and moral values of the masses. Many Jews have persistently sought, and gained, this power throughout the twentieth century.

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      The Huffington Post: Israeli-Occupied Territory
      by Justin Raimondo, January 03, 2009
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      Pat Buchanan was widely vilified by the neocons and the politically correct left when he famously described the Congress of the United States as “Israeli-occupied territory.” Oh, what a conniption the liberals and the Commentary crowd had! That was during the countdown to the first Gulf War, when almost no one rose to object – and those who did, like Pat, were smeared for their trouble. Today, such an observation is hardly considered controversial: it is simply a known fact.

      There is more discussion in the Knesset over the pros and cons of US intervention in the Middle East on Israel’s behalf than there is in on Capitol Hill. There’s a sense in which this sort of uniformity must be a little embarrassing for the Lobby, in that it underscores their fear that a real debate will suddenly break out. The regularity with which the American Congress endorses every fresh Israeli atrocity has a certain deadening metronomic quality about it – and, while we’re on the subject of monotony, the American media, too, plays an identical role as advocate and staunch defender of the Israeli case, as a matter of course. The “mainstream” televised and dead-tree-media has historically been a reliable “reporter” of the merits of the Israeli case. Now, the wannabe “alternative” online media is following suit, with an alacrity that is none too surprising.

  • Why do they hate us? (bin Laden says: Read Walt, Mearsheimer, and Carter)
  • Israel's Terror Inside
    • You folks are breaking a sound barriers. We are right behind you.

      When Israel starts to abide by International agreements and stops expanding settlements etc. Israel will be a much stronger and more peaceful country for all.

      This greater Israel thing....always expanding the borders is just not working

  • Why it is essential for Jews to speak out, as Jews, on Israel
    • A huge influence. Disproportionate amount of influence. Along with access to oil Israel and the push from Ledeen, Gaffney, Lieberman, Libby, Feith, Bolton, Cheney etc. Radical Jews in this country had a huge influence on the decision to go into Iraq. Huge

    • During the last five years far more Jews have come to realize that criticizing and standing up to the cruel and illegal strategies being used by the Israeli government does not mean you are a self hating Jew or anti-semitic.

      Over decades many of my so called liberal friends who are Jewish generally have taken a hard turn right (wrong) when it came to the criminal and illegal actions of the Israeli government. Times are a changin. Especially when Medea Benjaman (who would not touch this issue for a very long time) Naomi Klein and other heavy hitting and highly moral individuals are taking a stand.

      Norman Finkelstein has been a true leader in this way

      And now we have Mondoweiss breaking through the silence

      Honoring all of the folks who have stood up to these apartheid methods being use Vanessa Redgrave, Edward Said, Archbishop Tutu, Jimmy Carter, Norman Finkelstein, and so many more is so critical.

  • Hoyer Junket Upsets Palestinians, Undermines Obama
    • honored to have my thoughts reading like a "hip hop song"

      As Americans are mostly focused on their own welfare and health care. The Iraqi people are still burying their hundreds of thousands of dead as a direct result of our illegal invasion. But little to no concern expressed by Americans about the piles of their bodies, heart and minds...the Obama administration tell us "move on, turn the page, next chapter" Many of the Democrats still beat up by the radical Republicans during the last administration have accepted the distracting language having to do with some of us calling for ACCOUNTABILITY. Just when did holding those responsible for very serious crimes start being defined as "vengeance, retribution, witch hunts" instead of what it is JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

      Those who lied our nation into an unnecessary war in Iraq began manufacturing consent for a pre-emptive attack on Iran by Israel with the U.S. pulling up the rear.

      Ledeen, Gaffney, Bolton, Bill Kristol have been very busy repeating the unsubstantiated claims about an alleged Iranian nuclear weapons program. Even though the former head of the Iaea El Baradei and the present head of the Iaea have said that there is no hard evidence to back up these endlessly repeated claims.

      Hillary Clinton, Bill Kristol, McCain, Sarah Palin, etc repeat these claims on the MSM and not one not one MSM talking head (David Gregory, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews) challenges these claims.

      Next Stop Iran if Israel and those who support Israel's National Security more than they are concerned about the U.S.'s National Security have their way

      American neocons, WMD Intelligence, and Israel: the Forbidden Topic

      We are starting to see burgeoning reports that Lewis Libby’s now infamous July 10 call to Tim Russert was made in order for Libby to complain to Russert about MSNBC’s Chris Matthews’s anti-war commentaries, and specifically to complain that at least some of Matthews’ beliefs, and his mere use of the term “neocon,” were anti-Semitic. Libby apparently believed this -- or at least said he believed this -- because Matthews was openly questioning whether one of the motivations for the war was a desire on the part of the “neo-cons” to bolster the security of Israel by ridding the world of one of Israel's most threatening menaces, Saddam Hussein.

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    • Aipac Rosen espionage ...9 time delayed trial dismissed. The MSM never never touched this story. Well Maddow did a report that was basically mocking the importance of this investigation and nine time delayed trial.

      the pounding of Charles Freeman by the I lobby, the continued total blackout of what is taking place in the Gaza on the MSM and Sunday news programs. the endless repetition of unsubstantiated claims about Iran that get repeated in our MSM and go unchallenged.

      Not much has changed....and Israel continues to beat the drums of war towards Iran

      This program was a bit of breakthrough on the MSM long long overdue
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  • Learn the latest on Bil'in and what you can do to help
    • Christine Amanapours special...worth the watch

      Generation Islam
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    • those numbers seem to be way off. I thought it was 11 Israeli's dead and over 3000 Palestinians dead.

      Did anyone see Christine Amnanapours special the other night. Actually damn well done and relatively fair. Now I hope she goes into some of the settlements and some of the fancy housing sections of Israel that American taxpayers help pay for

  • Ho hum. Tom Friedman gave private chalk-talk to Israeli brass
  • In the beloved Old Country, a Jew has visions of her homeland
    • Whenever a group lays claim to being "chosen people" that is a problem. If there is a god there is no way one group would be chosen over another.

      The biggest PR scams of all times in the Bible (written by a bunch of Jewish guys) God told us we were the "chosen people" what a bunch of fiction

    • Lizzy what a beautiful post/ article. So smart to retrace your roots. My grandparents came to the U.S. from Poland around 1920..Polish Catholic. Some of their relatives perished in WWII also. One thing I can never figure out is why when the numbers of people that Hitler's killing machine wiped out why our media never and I mean never mentions the 3 million Poles who perished along with Gypsies handicapped, etc. Why we only hear about the 6 million Jews.

      You sound like you have read far more about the history and that part of the world than I know. I also wonder about just what the environment was like in Poland for so many Jews to have moved there if there was allegedly so much anti semitism. Had to be an environment that they felt somewhat welcome.

      Also wonder about what the environment was for so many Poles to have participated as (guards, etc) in the killing machine. What was the situation like between Jews and Catholic Polish before Hitler came to power?

      Odd that the Jews were fleeing due to the "Jesus Freakery" yet the Bible (written by a bunch of Jewish guys) is so often used to lay claim to the land now referred to as Israel. As if Yahweh was a real estate broker some 2000 years ago. Real problems. Have never figured out the "chosen people" spin either.

      "These Jews seem to have come, at least initially, from the wilds of Western Europe, driven by the rabid Jesus-freakery of the crusaders into the relatively tolerant arms of the emerging Polish kingdom (and the word “relative” really does need to be emphasized)."

  • Jason Jason bring the basin! No stop, bring the mop!
    • Ros Lehtinens' views on the middle east are so lopsided and unfair hard to imagine how the woman sees straight. Her push for anti Palestinian legislation is almost criminal

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