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Kathleen

57 year old mother of three, activist, concerned citizen

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  • Breaking: 'Irvine 11' found guilty on two charges for protesting Michael Oren
    • At least pretend that you are fair for heavens sake. Have Noura Erakat, Barghouti someone who can share another perspective and the facts

    • You are wrong about the Bush boot licking. I have been watching CM for years. In the run up to the invasion CM was harder on the WMD thugs than other MSMers. Not saying much but actually asked a few challenging questions. Did not have Seymour Hersh, El Baradei, Scott Ritter etc on. Did not go nearly far enough.

      And he has been pounding on Cheney for years...even before the invasion

    • You have to watch to know just how bad it is. Hope you stiffen up your lip and watch the whole thing

    • Contact Democracy Now...they might interview you. You never know

    • I had a tiny bit of hope in CM. Not now. Until he has Noura Erakat, or someone else on to voice the Palestinian view and a few facts..Chris can rot in his own waste for all I care. Will not stand up for that ass kissing pledge of allegiance to Israel devotee again until he does his f---ing job.

    • zing a ding ding

    • Did you hear Bibi today? The Bible says the land is ours, I have a signet ring for crying out loud...this is insane

    • Defending Israel
      here is the clip of Chris teabagging Micheal Oren
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

      Look at the picture they have up in that clip. Abbas with words below "defending Israel"

      Who is charge of his graphics? Creepy

    • Ok and tonight Chris Matthews had Micheal Oren on to not discuss but to use Hardball as an outlet for more Israeli propaganda.

      When the clip of the interview comes up there will be no questions as to whose ass Chris Matthews nose is up.

      I just put this up at his blog
      "How bad was Chris Matthews morally disastrous interview with Israeli Ambassador Micheal Oren?

      Chris I have not ever witnessed such a quickie. During that interview you bent over to illegal Israeli policies said your pledge of allegiance to Israel rolled over and literally teabagged Israeli ambassador Micheal Oren. All in ten minutes.

      Tonight you were a discredit to your alleged career, your country (this is a national security issue for the US) and to your alleged faith. Clearly you have completely sold out to the All mighty dollar.

      You not only did not ask any hardball questions you demonstrated that you have no balls. Not one challenging question. Even a softball. You could have asked about settlements. You did not need to honor international findings or the UN that the settlements are ILLEGAL chris ILLEGAL. Then you kissed Netanyahu's signet ring and said it could be done in "10 years" "the right way"

  • Abbas brings Tahrir to New York, and some of our media seem to be on board
    • During Rep Chabots jig for Israel on CSpans Washington Journal there were quite a few calls with clear understandings of what is really going on in that conflict and how it has been and still is a national security issue for the US.

      this is worth listening to
      http://www.c-span.org/Events/Washington-Journal-for-Thursday-September-22/10737424305/

      Wonder when Washington Journal will have someone on to share the Palestinian perspective and some facts. Rep Chabot repeated the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map" hooey. Then went on to say that Iran has a nuclear weapons plan. The host did not question or ask him to validate any of these unsubstantiated claims

    • thanks for your perspective

    • ". In months to come, we can expect probing coverage of the occupation at last from the American press, reports on the children seized in the middle of the night, the demonstrators shot, the cisterns destroyed, the olive trees uprooted."

      I will not be holding my breath..not even for a second. With Dylan Ratigan showing a split screen of Abbas at the UN with some Palestinians throwing stuff at I believe IDF...not showing peaceful protesters. Then Dylan flipped and went into the bad bad bad Iran dance and a focus on Saudi Arabia that needs to happen but not linked to what is going on right now. He went way out in left field.

      Then Chris Matthews bending over and quickly saying the pledge of allegiance rolled over and teabagged Micheal Oren all in ten minutes. I might need to start watching CNN more.

      I think what we are going to hear the next year out of these sold out folks is BAD BAD IRAN. No challenges coming out of their mouths. they seem to have not learned anything from their fuck ups in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. In fact most of them are helping set the stage for Israel dropping some bunker busters that Israel bought from the US.... on Iran

    • Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Dylan Ratigan was pounding on the bad bad bad Iran drum again tonight. MSNBC is hopeless.

      Chris Matthews can have Gaffney, Kristol, David Frum on. But Flynt Leverett, Juan Cole, Micheal Scheuer hell Seymour Hersh for heavens sake they could play it safe

    • Nothing at Huff Po, Firedoglake, Salon. You know those liberal sites

      Counterpunch had a bunch of articles up

    • and on another MSM outlet

      Dylan Ratigan showed a split screen with Abbas at the UN and in the other screen Palestinian protest were people were throwing things at I believe the IDF. Ratigan then went into a song and dance about how much money Saudi Arabia was giving the Palestinians. As if this is the reason behind Palestinians anger with Israel

      THEN Chris Matthews had Micheal Oren on. It was a pathetic quickie

      I just put this up over at Chris's blog

      How bad was Chris Matthews morally disastrous interview with Israeli Ambassador Micheal Oren?

      Chris I have not ever witnessed such a quickie. During that interview you bent over to illegal Israeli policies said your pledge of allegiance to Israel rolled over and literally teabagged Israeli ambassador Micheal Oren. All in ten minutes.

      Tonight you were a discredit to your alleged career, your country (this is a national security issue for the US) and to your alleged faith. Clearly you have completely sold out to the All mighty dollar.

      You not only did not ask any hardball questions you demonstrated that you have no balls. Not one challenging question. Even a softball. You could have asked about settlements. You did not need to honor international findings or the UN that the settlements are ILLEGAL chris ILLEGAL. Then you kissed Netanyahu's signet ring and said it could be done in "10 years" "the right way"

  • Mondoweiss liveblogs the UN General Assembly speeches
    • He has used that line and the signet ring many many times during speeches

    • That was good

    • Spread it all around

    • And Chris Matthews said to Israeli Ambassador Micheal Oren tonight during a pathetic kiss ass interview that well maybe "10 years"

    • "The good news is he will tell that to you loudly and clearly."

      Good news it is not.

    • Counterpunch loaded up with articles about the speech, the bid etc
      http://www.counterpunch.org/

    • Holocaust, signet ring, Bible tells us so,Islamophobia...get the draino out all of the same shit is clogging up the pipes

    • And here is what we are getting out of the LIBERAL blogs front pages
      LIGHT SPEED +
      Researchers Believe Particle Traveled Faster Than Light, Rocking Major Theories
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
      Obama Campaign Urging Supporters to Tell Congress to Support American Jobs Act
      http://firedoglake.com/

      Salon
      http://www.salon.com/

    • signet ring, Bible told us so, ENOUGH

    • Turn up your hearing aides for heavens sake.

    • How many new illegal Israeli settlement expansions will be announced today or very soon

    • more empty seats.

      Bibi did not move an inch. Pulled out all of the aces, Holocaust, 9/11, Bible says it is ours, Islamophobia, Iran Iran Iran

    • Haas tries to pretend he can look at the other side. As biased as Friedman.

      Hope folks keep track of how this is spun tonight. The bias the focus on Iran. Will they say illegal settlements one of the biggest problems. Will they ever get close to saying how many experts have finally come out and said this conflict is a National Security issue for the US

    • "Recognize a Jewish state" What the hell did he just say...he eats all of his words within seconds

    • He is pulling out every racist and over used card in the book.

      The Bible says it is so
      Iran Iran Iran
      Islamophobia
      9/11

    • The majority were clapping and standing. The rest of the world does not care what Susan Rice thinks, votes. The US has delegitimized itself

    • Remember that Israel has turned down international observers many times through the US's veto power in the National Security council

    • Israel has never frozen the settlements. Partial moratorium. Partial.

    • 9/11..Iran....Islamophobia....and he has the balls to bring up being armed with nuclear weapons.

      THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.

      This will be the line on the MSM tonight. Nothing about illegal settlements, nothing about Israel being in violation of more Un resolutions,

      he is disgusting...such a liar. As if illegal settlements help Israel's securities

      They have never stopped building illegal settlements

    • He is going to use his time to stir up Islamophobia..this is pathetic. It is going to move into bad bad Iran. How many unsubstantiated claims will he repeat

    • Bibi "you could not make this thing up"

      You bet your ass. The very body that CREATED Israel is the very body Israel refuses to abide by those resolutions.

      "house of many lies" Israels house
      "the light of truth shines even if only for a few minutes"

      "the truth is " not many people applauding

      AND THE SETTLEMENTS KEEP GROWING, CONFISCATION OF MORE PALESTINIAN LAND IS HAPPENING AS HE SPEAKS.

      Few believe you Bibi. Very few

    • there he goes our ancient biblical homeland. This is going to be repeated over and over again.

      Unjustly singled out for condemnation. Well if Israel would stop violating more violations than any other nation. He is going to start banging on Iran Iran

    • Bibi "I extend my hand to the Palestinian people"

      You know he is going to bring up how the Bible told him so. Ethnic centric our people add so much to the world.

    • And as he spoke as we comment illegal Israeli settlements and illegal housing in E Jerusalem keeps growing with the Jewish only roads in between connecting them.

    • no tears but lots of chills

    • Which what we will hear on the MSM tonight. All about Israel

      How many times will Bibi repeat the myth that Palestinians have walked away from the table. He will say what Dore Gold said on Talk of the Nation the other day..we never agreed to stop the settlements...it is such a small piece of land that we are talking about. What are they so upset with?

      He will repeat what a good friend the US is.

      He will not address the illegal settlement issue at all

    • Far more people standing and clapping. Camera person doing a fair job

    • So tonight on the MSM we will hear this speech spun like crazy.

      Few empty seats, some sitting no clapping, some sitting clapping, many standing and clapping, some standing clapping and shouting. Go Abbas

    • Standing Here, Being here, Staying here...We have one Rule
      TO BE....chills

    • Abbas saying the time is up for conducting "business as usual"

      Occupation on the ground entrenches the occupation changing the demography of the Palestinian people "this is totally unacceptable" clapping lots of clapping

      A MOMENT OF TRUTH. Last people to remain under occupation. Will it allow Israel to continue to ignore UN resolutions the International Criminal court?

      63 YEARS OF AN OCCUPATION...Nakba

      ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH

    • Abbas is being clear crisp on target

    • Commitment to non violence...demanding non violence from the illegal Israeli settlers and from the Israeli Defense forces

      "We extend our hand to the Israeli government and to the Israeli people"

    • abbas reminding the crowded room what Arafat said in 1974 "Do not let the olive branch fall from my hand"

      1948 Palestinians uprooted from their homes.

      Absence of absolute justice....we went for relative justice 22% of historic Palestine in 1967 a "historic step" historic compromise. In the years that followed Madrid conference, the Oslo agreement.. MUTUAL recognition..we persevered. All of this shattered on the illegal Israeli settlement expansion.

    • Abbas

      Racing against borders...criminal actions of armed settlers who enjoy special protection of the occupying army..these settlers attack and kill Palestinians, their fields , crops, trees, These are just a few examples of the abuses.

      This policy will destroy the possibility of a two state solution

      I call this aloud these illegal settlements are undermining the Palestinian Authority"

      Is the Israeli Rep in the room?

    • Peace talks in early Sept in 2009..the quartet

      We entered those talks with open hearts and ears. After this we did not give up. Over this last year we kept knocking on doors...we positively considered all proposals from many parties and countries...repeatedly smashed across the rocks by the Israeli government....Israel refuses to ignore UN resolutions and frantically continues to build illegal settlements.....settlements are the core of the colonialism...racism...settlements expansion primary reasons for the breakdowns for movement towards a just peace....horrific picture of the expansion of settlements in various units in the West Bank and the Arab part of Jerusalem and the annexation wall swallowing up Palestinian lands

      THE PLACE IS PACKED

      Ethnic cleansing pushing people out of ancestral lands, no permits for building...occupying power still excavating Palestinian properties

    • abbas can say the Nakba at the UN. In Israel and I believe in the West Bank this is now illegal to whisper Nakba

    • The place is packed. No empty seats. Standing ovation. The world is behind the Palestinian bid

    • "But Abbas vowed to press ahead during a meeting with Obama, the White House said later."

      How could he do anything else. His lined in the sand was stop the illegal settlements now.

    • Cool. Kind of tried to live blog the other day on Mondoweiss. So interesting to each nation and their concerns. Have spent a great deal of time at the UN's site over the years reading documents, letters sent from other nations regarding Israel's nuclear , biological and chemical weapons stockpiles and their threat to peace in the middle east etc. Going to be important to spend more time at the IAEA's website as the push to go get bad bad Iran and frequency of our MSM talking heads willingness to not only allow guest to repeat the unsubstantiated claims about Iran but the host themselves repeating these unsubstantiated claims.

      Erdogans speech was especially relevant. If folks have not listened to it I recommend listening. As well as the King of Jordans speech.

  • So much for secular Jewish identity
    • Bibi...no movement out of him same old same old.

    • "This lie denies the historical fact of Jewish ties to the land of Israel going back more than 3,000 years"

      OK folks start packing it up the native Americans want their land back.

      Clearly the Dem Jews in this district put Israel above US National security again.

  • Clemons: Imagine Cuba trumping the Soviet Union in the 60s, that's what Netanyahu did to Obama
    • Hell Obama repeated the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map" in his UN speech. Part of Israel and the I lobbies "mission accomplished" plan

    • Will the Israeli lobby who owns our congress on middle east issues push Obama off of that tightrope and hang his re-election aspirations based on their blind allegiance to Israel no matter what they do? That is the question

      With Schumer, Wasserman Schultz and Steve Israel etc shaking the tightrope that Obama is trying to walk across it does not look like he will be able to get close to taking a chance on this issue any time soon. Except by supporting the Arab Spring everywhere else but with the Palestinians, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia.

      We are going to hear the alarms going off loud about Iran. We are going to hear the Rachel Maddows, Richard Engels, Andrea Mitchells banging hard on the bad bad bad Iran drum. Repeating one unsubstantiated claim after the next.

      Last night on Dylan Ratigans they were focused on bad bad Iran. One of Dylan Ratigans regular pundits was like a mad mad man about the I/P issue and Iran

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37560195/

      On the Diane Rehm Friday International round up that I am listening to right now both guest and the host repeated the unsubstantiated claims about Iran producing nuclear weapons or having a nuclear weapons program. This lie is being repeated all over the place. On Rachel Maddows, Dylan Ratigans, Diane Rehm show. This has been happening for the last eight years and is escalating. No need to have the perpetrators of these unsubstantiated claims on like Reuel Marc Gerecht, Ledeen, Feith, Cheney, Bolton, Terry Gross etc now the echo chamber has taken over repeating these unsubstantiated claims about Iran.

    • I meant Bush 41 oops

    • having watched Obama in the Senate for the two years that he was there he has proved that he does not have "the courage of his convictions"

      "courage of his convictions" That would be a Franklin Roosevelt and this is not who he is. But I do think his "convictions" are for a Palestinian state based on the 67 border and Israel halting all expansion of illegal settlements

      Carter and Bush 43 took a beating from the I lobby for their 'convictions" They lost their re election campaigns. You have to have your head up where the sun does not shine to not admit that the I lobby played a part in both of them not being re-elected

    • "he side skirts the reason why our political leaders do these craven oblations to a foreign power."

      Really?

      In Clemons article
      "It is 2011 of course. 2012 will be an expensive year of political campaigning and this makes riling up some donors in the Jewish American community politically complicated. It should be noted that some enlightened Jewish Americans support a two state solution, peace, and even Mahmoud Abbas' play at the United Nations."

    • Stop putting words in my mouth "earth shattering" Who the hell said that? Not me. That would be you.

      There is a huge distance between the words out of your mouth "dribble" and "earth shattering" Clemons piece is clearly between those two extremes for heavens sake.

    • "What Obama doesn't get is that a substantial portion of Israel's population loves not having a deal and never wants one. They are OK with a peace process to nowhere -- but that is not acceptable for the less-endowed, less-powerful Palestinian side. Hamas is in the rejectionist corner as well, seeing its fortunes rise as earnest efforts at peace go nowhere."

      the tightrope

    • Obama and much of what the US has and is doing in Iraq, Pakistan, etc " racist murderous bastards"

      Levels of hypocrisy when you get into those spots. Clearly.

      The last two Presidents to piss Israel and the I lobby off this much were Carter and Bush 43. They are walking a tightrope. Reality

      But what is it in you that can not give a drop of credit where some credit is due when Clemons more than "dribbles"

    • "Clemons needs to learn that dribbling the less than occassional carefully worded criticism of our policies towards Isr/Pal IS NOT responsible journalism . You DO NOT teach your readers the truth by presenting the facts in pauses, snippets, and politically mindful rhetorical caution"

      This is not a "dribble" Poa. Clemons is now using his position to get far closer to the truth. Do you ever give some credit where some credit is due? I don't think that there is one of us here who knows what it is like to get where Clemons is. That piece is far more than "dribbling"

    • Clemons: " The fact is that the status quo of frozen negotiations is benefiting the dominant, settlement-expanding Israel -- and the US, in promising to veto at the UN Security Council Palestine's bid for official state recognition, is playing guarantor to one side, undermining the aspirations of others on the other side of the equation."

      I keep wondering is Obama playing the 11th dimensional chess game that others believe he is playing with Israel. Supporting the Arab Spring where he can, knowing that there will be far more pressure on Israel by supporting getting rid of the dictators that the US has for decades supported so that the voice of the Egyptian people etc can come through. He clearly can not apply pressure directly because he will more than likely lose the upcoming election and when he applied pressure directly Israel kicked him and Biden in the cajones...hard. Israel and Dennis Ross have kept the Obama's administrations cajones in a vice grip so how else to approach this but through moving along side streets (Egypt etc)

      Turkey etc taking front row seats

    • "Obama's UN General Assembly speech has done nothing to reverse the impression that Netanyahu is the alpha dog in the relationship with President Obama -- and this is truly tragic and geostrategically consequential."

      What are you going to do with the reality on the ground cccchhhing when you want to get re-elected?

      Obama's numbers in Florida are in danger territory

    • I have communicated with Clemons privately. He is far more open to what the real facts on the ground are than others think. He clearly walks a fine line about how far he can go while climbing that inside the beltway ladder.

      Some of us have been pushing him. He is willing to communicate with the peasants the way Chris Matthews is. This says a great deal to me

  • Mr. President, we don't want a shortcut, we want our freedom
    • King of Jordans comments at the UN were crisp and clear

    • Too bad about Wilder. But not surprised facts do not matter to him when it comes to Israel

    • Oh yeah get on the bad bad bad Iran bus just the way the Iraq war thugs , Israel and the I lobby want you too. Rachel Maddow sure follows orders. She acts like a child when it comes to Iran. She does not have guest on who can talk about Iran based on facts like Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett. Micheal Scheuer, Professor Juan Cole.

      Rachel Maddow acts like a spoiled child when it comes to Iran. They are bad bad bad Israel and Jane 'waddling on over to interfere in the Aipac investigation" Harman, Micheal "niger documents" Ledeen tell us so.

    • Cspan has cut away from playing Erdogans full speech at the UN. They cut away to some really boring congressional meeting where they were talking about some issue in the 1950's.

      I lobby seems to have taken over the programming at CSpan. All week they have not taken this opportunity (the Palestinian bid) to have guest on from different perspectives. Folks who could direct people towards facts on the ground, the UN site and information there.

    • "regime in Libya comprised of former terrorists was accepted at the UN 5 days ago and hasn’t even yet constituted a governement."

      Links? Proof?

    • bingo

      And Rachel Maddow, Al Sharpton, Dylan Ratigan, Chris Matthews, Ed etc will spend hours on the Troy Davis issue but never ever touch the deaths of innocents in the I/P conflict. And all of this week not one of them took this opportunity to help educate the American public about the facts on the ground.

      They could have Dershowitz on. They could have Finkelstein on if they want to go for the facts or push the envelope. Or they could go soft and have Flynt Leverett, Phyllis Bennis on.

      Not one of them have really tried to really inform the public. Last night Rachel Maddow went into her screaming adolescent and attacked the Iranian President like an insane hormonally imbalanced nut. She never actually addresses what the man said. And some of it nutty just like Obama or Bush but some of it actually makes sense

    • "Jewish American elite fears goy voters may inquire into actual facts re Israel due 2 who-loves-israel-more contest forward.com/articles/14331"

      And the myth that Phillip at times cultivates is that many Jews just did not know. Almost total bull. I like when he points out the pressures that many Jews are to shut up or not look deeper. But excusing this silence for decades or canonizing those who are now willing to stand up now that it has become more acceptable is more ethnic centric behavior. Acknowledge apologize for keeping your mouth shut for so long and push forward.

    • So how did Dylan Ratigan get Glenn Greenwald on his program (although has not been back since) or Rachel Maddow having Professor Juan Cole on or Carter on the other night who said what Maddow will not go near about the I/P issue.

    • Oh yeah that Al Queda asset head of the Libyan rebels that Escobar reported about and a few weeks later NPR whispered about it.
      http://rt.com/usa/news/al-qaeda-libya-commander-escobar-269/

      Those Libyan rebels fighting for their freedoms and justice carrying guns, blowing up things, killing people that MSNBC's Richard Engel and Rachel Maddow kept their focus and cameras on for weeks. While always ignoring peaceful Palestinian protest and Palestinians push for freedom and justice. No hypocrisy there. Shameful

    • NYT: Obama rebuffed as American influence wanes
      France's Sarkozy steps into the void as US effort to head off a Palestinian bid fo
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44624040/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/#.Tntuil1vyuI

    • "The United States I was taught about in school is dead."

      Never existed. Yes we have done some humanitarian things around the world. Yes we have some honorable goals in our constitution. But a nation born via genocide, slavery and Manifest destiny is a nation doomed ultimately to fail if we do not change our ways.
      Can we reduce the damage? Can we slow it down? Can we stay focused on justice in the mean time? Can we keep trying to improve? Yes yes yes

    • Whoa Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett rip Obama a new Israeli Palestinian "ineptitude" hole
      "But it is the Palestinian issue that highlights the extent of Obama’s craven ineptitude."
      http://www.raceforiran.com/

      Can anyone explain why in the hell Chris Matthews etc have swung so far wrong by having people like Frank Gaffney, Bill Kristol, David Frum who have told so many lies and are partially responsible in so many Iraqi deaths and will not have former Bush administration official Flynt Leverett or Hillary Mann Leverett on his program?

    • He is assuring he will fill his campaign coffers with this speech

    • A 6o year shortcut. What a sham

  • Obama speech was shattering to liberal Zionists
    • "As Ilene Cohen writes in an email: "There's a still-small Israeli and pro-Israel 'community' of pundits and politicians that recognizes that Israel will never shed its growing pariah/outcast status so long as it insists on sticking with its colonial Greater Israel project. To be clear, these people are motivated by concern for Israel; justice for Palestine and Palestinians is not really on their radar."

      Whether the motivation comes from selfish reasons or true humanitarian reasons. Let's hope these liberal Zionist start to push hard for the halting of all building of illegal settlements and illegal housing in E Jerusalem----------------

      "That dream may now turn into a nightmare as the international community increasingly sees Israel as a rogue state and treats it accordingly."

      The international community has recognized and defined Israel as a rogue state for a very long time.

      Thanks for all of the reports about the much needed and long overdue movement in the Jewish community

  • Well ain't that America: Obama ignores Palestine in UN speech on freedom, and the world watches the US execute an innocent man
    • While I was moved and learned a great deal about this individual last night on MSNBC. From 7 pm to 11 they focused on this execution. The questions around this execution were serious and substantive and hopefully the Board of parole who did not stop this execution will be investigated.

      But it stood out that MSNBC etc did not spend any time educating the public by having guest who could address the I/P facts. Complicit in keeping the American public uninformed about this critical issue that undermines US national security

  • Bill Keller still doesn’t know now what we all knew then…
    • Keller "But when the troops went in, they went with my blessing" You bet they did and your papers false reporting that supported the Bush administrations agenda in Iraq.

      Clearly Keller does not give a rats ass about the enormous amount of death and destruction that has taken place in large part as a direct consequence of the lies sold to the American people in that grey and very very bloody New York Times

    • Great post Lizzy

      this is the repeated line and lie that drives me insane

      "The question is really two questions: Knowing what we know now, with the glorious advantage of hindsight, was it a mistake to invade and occupy Iraq? And knowing what we knew then, were we wrong to support the war?"

      Jesus Mary and Joseph help us. At the time of 9/11 I was a 49 year old soccer mom living here in southeastern Ohio. I could simply turn on NPR's Talk of the Nation, the Diane Rehm show, go listen to Democracy Now, or Washington Journal and hear opposing views about the endlessly repeated lies being told by the Bush administration about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I heard former IAEA weapons inspector Scott Ritter, Brzyzinski, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, Blix, former President Jimmy Carter, General Zinni and many more question the validity of the false intelligence coming out of the Pentagons Office of Special Plans. I read Jonathon Landays articles questioning the validity of the intelligence. I read investigative reporter Jason Vest article in the Nation, about just who was busy creating, cherry picking and dessminating the falwe WMD intelligence http://www.thenation.com/article/men-jinsa-and-csp Seymour Hersh questioned. When IAEA head El Baradei came out in early March of 2003 and said the Niger Documents were forgeries I thought surely the race to invade Iraq would stop.

      When Senator Durbin (who was on the intelligence committee) and 20 some other honorable Senators voted against the Iraq war resolution in the fall of 2002. I thought ok some light bulbs are being turned on

      Christ all mighty I was a soccer mom in south eastern Ohio at the time and I could access this information seriously questioning the validity of the intelligence from solid and verifiable sources.

      Now granted when you would turn on the evening news CNN, MSNBC, etc would allow Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Kristol and other selling the linking of 9/11 to the invasion of Iraq with little to no challenges from host of these shows....the majority of American people bought it. They expect the news to get close to the truth. But our MSM was generally complicit in selling that war.

      Millions of us marched, petitioned our Reps, were arrested for civil disobedience before the invasion based on the serious questions around the WMD "pack of lies" Did Keller and his newspaper interview my friends who lost their daughter who was an airline stewardess on the United Flight and who led the anti invasion march in New York in early Feb of 2003? The 9/11 families against the invasion of Iraq? Did Keller and his bloody paper come out on the streets to see and really cover who were at those marches right in his back yard? The WWII, Korean, Vietnam and Desert Storm Vets who were marching against the invasion? Very little. Keller and Judy Miller knew exactly what they were doing. They were instrumental

      Keller is a flimsy liar. He was an integral part of the war criminals who sold the American people that immoral and illegal invasion. He allowed Judy "I was fucking right" Miller to spew her WMD lies over and over again in that bloody paper. The New York Times has the blood of the Iraqi people and American soldiers dripping down its cover forever. When I think of Cheney, Wolfowitz Feith, Condi "mushroom cloud" Rice and all of the others like Keller, Miller, Kenneth Pollack (US gov 1 in the Aipac investigation) who were instrumental in selling that unnecessary war I pray that there is a hell and that the devil is building a new wing for these war criminals souls.

  • Neoconservative wax museum set to open in D.C. next month
    • Was wondering where Wolfowitz was when I saw the line up for this panel. One war criminal looking for another war criminal.

      Gadhafi Must Still Be Captured
      As long as he's at large he can cause trouble for the new government.

      BY PAUL WOLFOWITZ

      The liberation of Tripoli was a great victory for the Libyan freedom fighters and their leadership—as well as their NATO and Arab allies—but it has not ended the fight for the country. Even when pro-Gadhafi forces are driven out of Sirte and Bani Walid the conflict might continue, as it did in Afghanistan and Iraq after the liberation of Kabul and Baghdad. Forces allied to the former regime could still threaten a new government by using guerilla and terrorist tactics.

      Gadhafi has long since rejected the idea of a comfortable retirement in Venezuela or Belarus. It would be a mistake ...

    • Amazing...what positions war criminals and felons like Libby can find for themselves to do. Shameful. More like criminal.

      Where is Wolfowitz, Bolton, Perle and Pappa and Baby Doc Cheney on that list. Mev Wurmser?

      You can bet their the focus will be how are we going to convince the American people that Iran is a huge threat based on our false intelligence and propaganda war against Iran.

      Many of these individuals have undermined and continue to undermine US National Security. Says a great deal about our Justice system that Libby is not in prison for outing Plame. I believe John Hannah

      Maybe Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson will attend.

      John Hannah
      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/02/politics/02aide.html?pagewanted=print
      "One of the titles held by Mr. Libby, that of Mr. Cheney's national security adviser, will not fall to Mr. Addington but to John P. Hannah, a foreign policy aide whose ties to the vice president are less deeply rooted.

      Mr. Hannah has worked for Mr. Cheney since 2001, but he began his career in Washington as a protégé of Dennis B. Ross, the former Middle East peace negotiator. Mr. Ross taught Mr. Hannah at Stanford University, and later took him to the State Department, under the first President Bush, when Mr. Ross was director of policy planning.

      Mr. Hannah later served at the State Department under Warren M. Christopher, where he worked with Thomas E. Donilon, who was Mr. Christopher's chief of staff. Under Mr. Bush, Mr. Hannah worked closely with Mr. Libby in preparing a draft of a speech for Secretary of State Colin L. Powell that laid out the Bush administration's rationale for war against Iraq."
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Vice Squad
      From our May issue: They terrorize other government officials, and they’re so secretive that their names aren’t even revealed to a harmless federal employee directory. And they’ve helped ruin the country. Meet Dick Cheney’s staff.

      http://prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11423

      "Then John Hannah intervened. A former official at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a pro-Zionist think tank founded by the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, Hannah is a neoconservative ideologue who, after the resignation of Irving Lewis “Scooter” Libby, moved up to become Vice President Dick Cheney’s top adviser on national security.

      Hannah moved instantly to undermine Abdullah’s influence. Not only should the United States not deal with Hamas, but Abbas, Fatah, and the entire Palestinian Authority were no longer relevant, he argued, according to intelligence insiders. Speaking for the vice president’s office, Hannah instead sought to align U.S. policy with the go-it-alone strategy of Israel’s hard-liners, including Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his stricken patron and predecessor, Ariel Sharon. Olmert soon stunned observers by declaring that Israel would unilaterally set final borders in the West Bank, annexing large swaths of occupied land, by the year 2010. His declaration precisely mirrored Hannah’s argument that Israel should act alone.

      Whether that viewpoint will prevail in the United States is unclear, but early indications are that the Bush administration is swinging in that direction. Hannah’s intervention is typical of how the OVP staff has engaged at all levels of the U.S. policy-making process to overcome opposition from professionals in the State Department, the intelligence community, and even the National Security Council (NSC) itself.

  • Perry embraces violent Jewish extremists, Politico's Ben Smith calls him 'moderate'
    • I certainly will not deny that Israel is far far more hostile towards Iran that Iran is towards Israel. Far more hostile and threatening

    • "And more importantly, it’s a sentiment that has been expressed by Iranian leaders before."

      Where when link?

      The neo theo oil cons bank on their purposeful mistranslations

    • Bill Kristol, Gaffney, Bolton, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Terry Gross (repeats this false statement endlessly), Robert Siegel, Cheney, Ledeen, McCain, Clinton, Andrea Mitchell, Rachel Maddow etc etc have all repeated this. This is the echo chamber of false claims. The neo con thugs know exactly how this works. That is exactly how Dennis Ross, Bill Clinton pinned the failure of those talks on Arafat. This is exactly how all of the false WMD claims traveled over the air waves.

    • Phil, Annie, Adam etc really think you are going to want to listen to what Rep Chabot had to say about the UN vote etc. Anyone think Washington Journal will have a guest on with an opposing or fact based views?

      "Then this morning on Cspan’s Washington Journal the host of the program allowed Ohio Republican Rep Chabot to repeat more inflammatory and false statements about Iran. Repeating the debunked “Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map” and then repeating unsubstantiated and very dangerous claims that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The host did not interrupt or challenge.

      The 45 minute segment that Rep Chabot was on focused on the I/P conflict, the UN bid. Anyone think Washington Journal will have a guest on with an opposing view about this issue?

      The clip of Chabot is not up. Rep Chabot has legislation up cutting Palestinian aide
      “Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH), Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East & South Asia – Chairman, discusses his non-binding resolution calling for the withholding of the United States’ U.N. funding if the General Assembly recognizes a Palestinian state.”
      link to c-span.org "

      Rep Chabot repeated all of Israel and the I lobbies talking points

      http://www.c-span.org/Events/Washington-Journal-for-Thursday-September-22/10737424305/

      "Israel is our strongest ally"
      "Arafat walked away from middle east talks" Dennis Ross's work in our media
      go get Iran bad bad Iran

    • you got it.
      Does not matter how many people might be killed pushing that agenda

    • Hophmi I know this is beyond your capabilities but I really do not want to my country to use military action against Iran or for them to support Israel doing so. Enough innocent people dead, injured, displaced..don't you think

    • Max
      "None of the reporters I talked to afterwards seemed to know who any of Perry's "pro-Israel" supporters were, and very few even cared. And nothing I have read so far about the event in the mainstream American media noted that it was planned by a key orchestrator of Palestinian home seizures in occupied territory, or that Perry embraced the former leader of a group listed by the FBI as a terrorist organization. To get a sense of the kind of coverage Perry earned from the mainstream press, read Politico's Ben Smith, who described Perry's speech as "moderate" and "centrist." Meanwhile, the liberal groups that howled in protest when Perry hosted a prayer rally in Houston with Christian right leaders have virtually ignored Perry's embrace of the Jewish extreme right."

      As is always the case Max digs down. Thanks
      Perry did take a beating last night on MSNBC for attempting to trump and undermine President Obama's speech at the UN.

      Were Douglas Feith and William Luti there collecting checks? Over at Race for Iran awhile back Flynt Leverett stated that Perry's foreign policy team is being led by Feith and Luti.

      Flynt Levertt references Foreign Policy.com
      "ForeignPolicy.com reports, see here, say that Perry’s foreign policy and national security briefings are being organized by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and feature such Iraq war masterminds as Doug Feith and Bill Luti. "
      http://www.raceforiran.com/can-rep-ron-paul-influence-america%E2%80%99s-iran-debate

      One of President Obama's lines during his UN speech was a very dangerous and false statement about Iran.
      Obama at the UN "Israel is a small country of less than 8 million people look at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe them off the map"

      This is the clip that Chris Matthews or his producers chose to play during his segment with Howard Fineman and Joan Walsh from Salon. Not one of these well informed savvy individuals chose to bring any attention to this debunked and false statement. Again allowing this inflammatory and false statement about Iran"s President to be repeated once again. This is dangerous dangerous.

      The segment on Hardball "Perry attacks Obama on Middle East Peace"

      Obama's false statement about the Iranian President's statements about Israel
      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#44601030

      Professor Juan Cole at Informed Comment debunked this false statement that has endlessly been repeated in our MSM by Reps, Obama, Clinton etc long ago.
      http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/hitchens-hacker-and-hitchens.html
      "Whatever this quotation from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did not say that “Israel must be wiped off the map” with the implication that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people. He said that the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time. "
      -------------------------------------------------------

      Then this morning on Cspan's Washington Journal the host of the program allowed Ohio Republican Rep Chabot to repeat more inflammatory and false statements about Iran. Repeating the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map" and then repeating unsubstantiated and very dangerous claims that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The host did not interrupt or challenge.

      The 45 minute segment that Rep Chabot was on focused on the I/P conflict, the UN bid. Anyone think Washington Journal will have a guest on with an opposing view about this issue?

      The clip of Chabot is not up. Rep Chabot has legislation up cutting Palestinian aide
      "Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH), Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East & South Asia – Chairman, discusses his non-binding resolution calling for the withholding of the United States’ U.N. funding if the General Assembly recognizes a Palestinian state."
      http://www.c-span.org/Events/Washington-Journal-for-Thursday-September-22/10737424305/

      Camera has a watch CSpan effort going on at their site where they document every comment about Israel, Iran that they do not like. Many people call in with facts. Camera defines almost every caller as anti semitic.

      Camera has had to hammer Washington Journal so much that almost every host interrupts anyone stating any comment about Israel with "where do you get your information" Now if the host of Washington Journal would just apply those same questions to those who repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran.
      Camera's CSpan watch site
      http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35&x_article=1778

  • Obama consulted no Palestinians for his rendition of history
    • One of President Obama’s lines during his UN speech was a very dangerous often repeated for 8 years and false statement about Iran.
      Obama at the UN “Israel is a small country of less than 8 million people look at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe them off the map”

      This is the clip that Chris Matthews or his producers chose to play during his segment with Howard Fineman and Joan Walsh from Salon. Not one of these well informed savvy individuals chose to bring any attention to this debunked and false statement. Again allowing this inflammatory and false statement about Iran”s President to be repeated once again. This is dangerous dangerous.

      The segment on Hardball “Perry attacks Obama on Middle East Peace”

      Obama’s false statement about the Iranian President’s statements about Israel
      link to msnbc.msn.com

      Professor Juan Cole at Informed Comment debunked this false statement that has endlessly been repeated in our MSM by Reps, Obama, Clinton etc long ago.
      link to juancole.com
      “Whatever this quotation from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did not say that “Israel must be wiped off the map” with the implication that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people. He said that the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time. ”
      ——————————————————-

      Then this morning on Cspan’s Washington Journal the host of the program allowed Ohio Republican Rep Chabot to repeat more inflammatory and false statements about Iran. Repeating the debunked “Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map” and then repeating unsubstantiated and very dangerous claims that Iran is working on nuclear weapons. The host did not interrupt or challenge.

      The 45 minute segment that Rep Chabot was on focused on the I/P conflict, the UN bid. Anyone think Washington Journal will have a guest on with an opposing view about this issue?

      The clip of Chabot is not up. Rep Chabot has legislation up cutting Palestinian aide
      “Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH), Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East & South Asia – Chairman, discusses his non-binding resolution calling for the withholding of the United States’ U.N. funding if the General Assembly recognizes a Palestinian state.”
      link to c-span.org

      Camera has a watch CSpan effort going on at their site where they document every comment about Israel, Iran that they do not like. Many people call in with facts. Camera defines almost every caller as anti semitic.

      Camera has had to hammer Washington Journal so much that almost every host interrupts anyone stating any comment about Israel with “where do you get your information” Now if the host of Washington Journal would just apply those same questions to those who repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran.
      Camera’s CSpan watch site
      link to camera.org

  • Deal in works to save Obama casting a veto, and continue 'peace process' --Guardian
  • If there had been a draft, would we be in Iraq?
    • "End the draft, so that the elites no longer have skin in the game."

      And during Vietnam..Those that I knew going to Harvard joined the Peace Corp knowing that this was another way out.

      But clearly the only thing that our military learned from Vietnam was eliminate the draft, do not show the public the pictures of what was really going on (embed) reporters and do not count their dead and injured and do not report these facts on the ground. The MSM went along

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