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  • Jerusalem Day's unforgiving mix of nationalism and Judaism
    • This makes me sick to my stomach.

      Why? Not because of the celebrations, but because of the racism thrown around during these celebrations.

      Moreso, Muslim worshippers were unable to get to Al Aqsa as the roads were blocked because of these parades.
      Israelis have their Yom HaAtzmaut, and we have our Yom al Nakba
      Israelis have their Yom Yerushalaim but we still have our Yom al Nakba, or during 1967 al Naksa.

      One day that will all change, so they better make the most of their short-lived celebrations because soon, it'll be no longer under Israeli control.

      Also "religious freedom" under Israel? Tell that to Palestinian Christians who were heckled by Israeli police during Orthodox Easter last week. Because when Palestinians from WB/Gaza are able to travel to Jerusalem at any given time, and not need permits from the Israeli authorities, then you can tell me that there's religious freedom.

  • When will the discourse of the 'two state solution' finally change?
    • I'm not saying that either. I'm not calling for a return to the ghetto. You know, there is cultural Zionism which some of its followers call for self-determination in the diaspora.

      Also the Jewish religion does not lack rights., at all. I'm also not saying that they deserve more rights over the Palestinians. That is not what I'm saying at all.

    • Where did I mention that Israel is the saviour of the Jews, or is more safer than the West? Nowhere.

      I said it is necessary because it is a place where Jews can have self-autonomy, but I never said that I favoured it. I said, I do not because it was achieved at the expense of the Palestinian Arab population.

    • I meant that I understand that they need self-determination, which they kind of do, due to anti-semitism, and the fact they've been a minority, but like RoHa said they need self-determination as citizens of the state, and not Jews.

      I'm not forgiving towards Israel, and I never will be, but I realise it's kind of necessary for the survival of Jews. Although because I'm not forgiving them ever for building Israel at the expense of Palestinians, I'm not a two-state advocate. One state for all people.

    • I didn't say anything about Israeli annexation. I said occupation, but although with a state, it's unlikely. What I meant to say was what if Israel attacks etc.

    • Brilliant piece. There are a few problematic things in here, but overall you make some very great points.

      The international community has "hope" for a 2ss.
      Palestinians, even with a 2ss, do not have hope. Palestinians have been kicked out of their home, and you're going to reduce it to a two state settlement?

      It really needs to let go of the whole 2-state discourse. Palestinians could've had their own state before '67, but Israel still atacked, and occupied. Who's to say they won't do it again?

      Jews need their self-determination however people need to get over the idea of Israel having a "Jewish majority", and it needs to adapt to a one-state reality. While the two state solution looked like it had foundation, it no longer does, no thanks to settlements. However, people also think that one state has no foundation, but it does. Even though after Oslo, there was a formation of a Palestinian Authority which gave them the right to self-rule. Pretty much everything was guarded by Israel - borders, land you name it. Israel provides water and electricity to the oPt etc.

      On the other hand, a one-state settlement is better for all. Also allowing a two-state solution to happen will allow Israel to get away with everything it's done over the generations.

      With RoR, everyone will be able to return home. This will hopefully include Mizrahim who left their homes in the Arab lands.

      Also a one man, one vote is what Palestinains should currently be looking at, like Gideon Levy mentions in his Ha'aretz article. Like South Africa, equal voting rights will lead to the elimination of the Jewish governments, and hopefully a Palestinian government installed. We're not talking Fatah or Hamas, but Balad and the like, or even new mixed Jewish-Arab Palestinians.

      That being said, Palestinians need to stop looking to Fatah and Hamas in hope of them resolving this conflict because they are a thing of the past, and new leadership being formed is what should be looked at. This includes the abolition of the Palestinian authority.

  • Diaspora Jews must speak out against the Israeli Law of Return
    • Norman, we all know that this is false. The idea that had PALESTINIAN refugees settled elsewhere that there'd be no conflict, how about Israel's agression, the occupation etc? Also yes while Palestinians are ethnically Arab, does not mean that other Arab countries will compensate for their loss of home. Yeah, they're displaced and stateless, but their homeland will be in Palestine always.
      Also Israel and the Arab countries are both equally to blame.

  • Not an empty sand dune: A Palestinian mansion in downtown Tel Aviv
    • Tel Aviv was originally a small town built in 1909 for the Jewish community. After 1948, it expanded over ethnically cleansed villages and became a big city, becoming connected Jaffa. Hence it being called Tel Aviv-Yafo.
      Yeah, it does bust the myth that Tel Avib was entirely Jewish, well only part of it was, or in fact not only Jewish but part of it was Tel Aviv in general.

  • Exile and the Prophetic: Throwing stones
    • Thank you for this wonderful piece, Marc.

      Unfortunately, it is a very Jewish world we live in when it comes to Israel-Palestine. Israel, and Jews worldwide decided what we can and can't do. Why Jewish resistance is celebrated, but Palestinian resistance is debated. Obama paying more homage to the Israelis.

      And indeed, Jews are no longer "a nation" but one of many.

      Hopefully, we'll being seeing some kind of change soon.

  • 'FEMEN' and the suppression of native voices
  • Meet Nathan Blanc, Israeli conscientious objector
    • Congratulations Natan. You are braver than most of the "IDF" soldiers (sorry, did you say IOF extremists) out there.

  • Amina Tyler's naked activism
    • No, there is no Arabic name Tyler. I think it's more of a western alias, if anything.

    • This is really important. Fuck FEMEN though. Like she couldn't have chosen a worser org to get involved with too.

  • BDS activists protest the Jewish National Fund in Philadelphia
  • Day Two of Obama in Israel/Palestine — Obama visits Ramallah and addresses the Israeli people
  • Israeli soldier on Facebook: 'There's nothing better than a dead Arab'
    • Ah you do make a good point.

    • Yes, you're right but Ha'aretz, even if Ali never revealed the photos, wouldn't want to damage its country's rep. Not much you can expect from Israel's 'left-leaning' paper. There are good things that do come out of Ha'aretz sometimes though.

  • Row breaks out in chambers as Aussie Parliamentarians criticizes 'study tour' of Israel
  • Israeli claims of West Bank 'terror cell's fly from Jerusalem to D.C. and back again
    • Israel can just as easily forge a letter and make it appear to be written from Hamas or Fatah. That being said, Israel looks for an excuse to launch military operations. Yeah, things are heating up in the West Bank, but suicide bombings? Don't think so. There haven't even been any suicide bombings since 2005, and even since then, many of the groups have denounced that tactic.

  • At protest concert, 'NYT' music critic singles out Palestinian's message as 'divisive'
    • Wowow. "Divisive" Sorry for speaking or moreso rapping / singing the truth!

      NY Times is always full of pro-Israel bullshit.

  • Israelis flock to Berlin-- some for 'multicultural vibe'
    • The chutzpah of all this is while Palestinian refugees are waiting to come home for 70 years now, young Israeli's born into Palestine/Israel end up emigrating. Guess it's not much of a 'home' to them, is it?

  • Biden says Jews can't be safe in the U.S. without a Jewish state
    • Jews not safe in the U.S.A? Oh, please. Spare the crap Biden. You are not better than your Republican Opponents.

      I would be more concerned for those Palestinians, or just Arabs and Muslims in general who face attacks, whether they're verbal or physical, because of the rising Islamophobia in the US! Why doesn't Biden talk about that?

      Also Golda Meir says they have nowhere else to go? This is quite ironic seeing as herself, she was born in USSR and raised in USA. I mean, what about Palestinian refugees who have nowhere else to go because no Arab country will give them citizenship?

      American Jews do NOT need Israel to feel 'safe'. This is one of the biggest propaganda lines of all time.

      Also yeah things are screwed up when a bunch of AIPAC Zionists applaud at the idea that they aren't safe in the US.

      But there's a lot of double standards here.

  • Netanyahu's agenda for Obama leaves out Palestinian state-- 'especially in this Middle East'
    • I don't know what Netanyahu's definition of "compromise" is.

      Oh wait, I do know now. Increased brutality, and increased settlements!!

      I look forward to the downfall of this awful dictator, Netanyahu. (metaphorically speaking)

      But yeah Netanyahu and his folks likewise do not want a two-state solution. Their idea of peace is little to no Palestinians at all.

  • Dershowitz unveils new hasbara claim: IDF has lowest rape rate
    • If Dersh's psycho claims are true, then can he please explain the amount of rape rates -- which often go unheard of -- that occured in 1948 and the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacres.

  • It's delicious to see very uncool people fall for 'Rolling Stones' anti-BDS hoax
    • Zionists will rejoice at anything that praises Israel, moreso that they need to fabricate stories about it even as Purim jokes.

  • Now it's 'Palestinians Only' buses (60 years after Montgomery)
  • Nablus rally in support of hunger strikers attacked by Israeli forces
    • "An Israeli spokeswoman said "50 Palestinians took part in a violent and illegal riot and threw rocks at security forces, who responded with riot dispersal means"

      So protests against the Zionist regime and occupation are now "violent and illegal" but shooting teargas and rubber bullets by so-called "security forces" which admittedly can kill are now "riot dispersal means".

      The amount of bullshit that comes out of these people mouths.

  • The false equivalence of liberal Zionists
    • Yay! Even more LibZio's.

      A two-state is practically on the brink of extinction, if not yet extinct. We all know that both parties are unwilling to give up their land, and the reason I say both, is even as a Palestinian, we will not give up our land to the Zionists. It is rightfully ours, and thus why we deserve the right of return. Not to mention, the 60 years worth of struggle. The other side, purely to fulfil their dreams of a greater "Jewish state" or for religious rasons. As we saw, when that religious Jew(s) assassinated Yitzhak Rabin, and as we also see in present day with the building of settlements. Zionists need to let go of this notion of maintaining a Jewish majority. It will not work, unless somehow miraculously all the Jews move to Israel, which also will not happen.

      The only way forward now is a democratic, secular Palestine with full right of return for Palestinian refugees,.
      It'll be an economic disaster but to counter that, we can only let in a few hundred thousand in at a time.
      Israeli's will either have to emigrate or accept the Arab population.

      Also why can Jews return after 2, 000 years but Palestinians cannot after nearly 70 years?

  • Denied entry by Israel, American teacher prepares to say goodbye to Palestinian students
    • This response is just stupid. Amman is in Jordan. Take a hint, Palestine and Jordan are not the same. Nice try, Zionist troll.

    • The sad part about this is the US cares more about covering up Israel's mishaps, rather than protecting its own US Citizens.

  • Video: Israeli settler lecturing Palestinian farmers -- 'You'll all be our slaves, if you're worthy, if you behave well'
  • Existence is Resistance does the Harlem Shake
    • This is awesome! I really love the idea of the use of viral videos in order to bring attention to the Palestinian cause.

      pro-Palestinians: 1 Hasbarist Media: 0

  • 'We'll take over the Likud, we'll take over the country': Far-right Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin honored in New York City
    • "And when the film intoned that the Israeli mainstream derided Feiglin as someone who wants to “expel” Palestinians, one audience member yelled out a “woo!” while another clapped. "

      Ugh.

      But surprise, surprise another far-right racist settler leader. He wants to destroy the Aqsa mosque (or was that Bennett? Wait, what's the difference?). He wants Palestinians to leave, and he even referred to them in the most derogatory manner.

      But oh wait, he repeated the same words as ex-Israeli PM Golda Meir. But I guess he is right, who are the Palestinians? Where did they come from? Didn't they arrive here on a boat during 1948? Arabs from Arabia? They just did that to destroy Israel, anti-semites!/sarcasm

      Ironically with Israeli's though, they deny that there ever was a Palestinian people when their descendants who lived in Palestine prior to the creation of Israel referred to themselves as "Palestinian Jews". To them, they're just Arabs. I like to question though (excluding Pal. population of Israel) if Israeli's are just Jews, then why do they have a national identity? Why aren't Palestinians allowed a national identity? Ironically, Palestinians don't exist and are just Arabs, however they do not question the national identity of surrounding Arab countries.

      This is all to deligitimise Palestinian ties to the land.

      I actually hope he does take over as leader of Likud. It will lead to the fastest fall of the country.

      Also if that Muhammad movie caused such an uproar from Muslims, then imagine the destruction of Al Aqsa. That would cause the biggest uproar ever, but nevermind, I suppose the American MSM would ignore it and say "Those savages! It's just a mosque"

      Yet that same media would probably turn a blind eye if Israeli destroyed Christian structural buildings in Jerusalem. Actually, that's probably the only reason Israel hasn't yet, so it doesn't lose its following of Christian Zio's.

  • The ethnic cleansing of the Jordan Valley
    • The Nakba did not end in 1948, it is currently ONGOING. This is ridiculous, and i'm sure the whole priviledges case thing is currently visible in the rest of the West Bank too. Settlers enjoy full privileges, which also includes travel into '48 areas of Palestine as well as Jerusalem. Palestinians? They have none of this... while they also have restriced movement, not enough water, constant settler terror etc.

      As to the ethnic cleansing of the Jordan Valley, the Jordan Valley rightfully belongs to Palestinians, and I don't see why Israel would need to protect "its borders" when those are the borders of a viable Palestinian state anywyay... I often feel that the excuse of taking land to set up military zones is just an excuse to annex more land.

      I mean, if Israel is successful in annexing the whole of Palestine, then I bet you there would be no need for occupation, thus no need for military zones, and that annexed land? Even more cities will be built for Jews to live in.

  • Why is Birthright organizing skateboarding and hip hopping-themed trips to Israel?
    • You're right. They have absolutely zero to do with being Jewish. It is more of a hasbara trip, if anything.

      Israel needs to feed propaganda to the youth so they will uphold its "honour" and join the IOF. Israel will do anything to survive.

  • First they stole our books, then they took our story
    • Nothing worse than Lib Zio's telling Palestinians how to act. Yeah sure he's a "good-doer" by helping get the Palestinian narrative across however it is not up to THEM whether it be Israelis, Americans, whatever to shape that narrative into whatever way it suits them.

      Good point Susan about the homes and the reclamation of homes. Also the comment at the end of the film about there being no attempt to reclaim these books. Well of course... Palestinians remaining in Israel probably have no idea what happened to their property if they did flee to another city, they probably thought their belongings got destroyed. Palestinians in Arab Countries and the Palestinian territories are not allowed to return to their homes, so of course there was no attempt at reclamation! and another good point about why transfer them to Birzeit, Ramallah or Nablus when they can be returned to their rightful places?

  • Meet the Knesset's newest settler members
  • Dan Rather says Israeli missile defense saved Palestinian lives in Gaza
    • Did the Iron dome really prevent Palestinian deaths though?
      Maybe it could have, maybe not.

      The only reason there was such a stark difference this time round is because of time length. Israel shot missiles into the Gaza strip for 8 days, as opposed to 22 days. In '08-'09 offensive, they even conducted an incursion into Gaza which increased casualties.

  • Rights of return-- first class and no-class
    • I left a similar comment as Norbert's on Yousef Munnayer's The Jerusalem Fund blog. Indeed the hypocrisy shines.

      Roger Cohen also tweeted last night that a two state solution would entail no right of return for either side. However I called him out on his incorrect statement saying that the losers here are the Palestinians, as Jews would still be able to make aliyah to Israel as they have done in the past years.

  • Video: Israeli kids in the army museum ('I picture a dead Arab and that makes me happy')
  • 'Savage' NY subway ads get a make-over-- revealing their true character
    • If Israel is the "civilised man" then hell, I am fine with being a savage.

      If stealing land, bombing innocent people, practising apartheid walls and so on is "civilised", then so be it.

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