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I think "Hatikva" is the Israeli national anthem, but it probably has one or more older meaning beyond that.
Gee, poor mister Luce must be turning over in his grave. Once a proponent of The American Century, his prize journalistic child has joined the mainstream media pack and become a shameless,unselfconscious shill for the most disastrous "ally" and self-destructive policies ever embraced by US foreign policy mavens.
Well, the guy who wrote, back in 1977 "Begin - rhymes with Fagan" must have retired quite some time ago.
Think this will make any difference to the unspeakable Reverand Hagee and his deluded flock? Think again. Alas.
A bad day for Bibi is a GREAT DAY for America.
Given the direction of the NY Daily News under Morty's insipid and Likudist-centric ownership, i would suspect they were really disgruntled subscribers.
Never though I would miss the red-baiting, commie-bashing NY Daily News of my youth, but...
I readily conceed the adjective "awful" but I have my doubts about the "human being" construction.
Hey, what happened here? This is a major disappointment.
Is Finkelstein channelling Noam Chomsky?
First Goldstone, now Finkelstein?
I fear that you are right. It's more than justified tthis moment.
I have personally given up challa bread, bagels, the use of yiddish-derived words like "goniff" and "chutpzah," and erotic fanatsies of Israeli model Bar-Rafaeli [that was indeed a real sacrifice].
This is not going to liberate one grain of Palestinain soil, but at least it's a show of solidarity. For what it's worth. Little, I fear.
Be careful what you wish for - congress will no doubt find a scad of needy Israeli kids to bestow breakfast and lunch upon.
"Lands of her fathers" is an old trope, used ironically [or so i thought] to indicate Glick's religious roots in the Holy Land.
Still, i'd love to know if she has ever renounced her USA citizenship, as she is a de facto Israeli [and, under the Law of Return, de jure as well]. Hey, there's lots of Koreans, Chinese, East Indians, etc... clamoring to get into this great country. No sense wasting a spot on glick, as she cares so little for us.
Kudos to the comments of marc b. and Charon.
I've got a more pressing concern - has Glick ever renounced her USA citizenship? I suspect she holds on to it the way an NRA member holds on to his 30.06. Just in case thing get too hot for Caroline in the land of her fathers and she has to hightail it back to the safety of the USA. If not, is there any way to discredit her by publicizing that inconvenient truth?
I keep getting emails about a nascent "Occupy AIPAC" movement [I think it's from Americans to End The Occupation.]
Your comment could be it's tagline - "We Are The 97%."
It never ceases to amaze or to digust me, the automatic equation of any criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. Will this trope ever die it's long-overdue and well-deserved death?
" When the BDS proposal made its way to UVM’s Socially Responsible Investing Working Group, Fogel began to field calls from Jewish alumni and donors who were concerned, he said, that the university was going to take an anti-Semitic position that “would have ended their relationship with the community and their support for it.” "
Well, echoing Marx my advice to you is to read it twice - the first time as tragedy, the second time time as farce.
Let me know your best distance for the projectile vomit very likely to occur while you read that creature's brilliant musings and observations.
"Brand Israel" tanking?
Is it too mean/too snarky to opine that here's one extremely dissatisfied customer who fervantly wishes for total product recall?
Well, he's gone and his suffering is over. No matter what, let's hope he's in a better place than the one he left. IFthere is any other place after death, which CH did not believe.
BUT, WTF? He was unbearable and insufferable as a trendy leftist, and became more unbearable and insufferable as a lackey of the Israelis, and add "breathtakingly destructive" to his manifest political faults.
In any case, his pain is over. The rest of us live with the pain of the consequences of the brain-addled policies he promoted with such monotonous regularity and metrononic predictability.
Absolutely amazing. Gingrich denies the reality of the Palstinians, denies their Right of Return to pander to his Likudist would-be supporters, yet supports an ill-disguised mass amnesty for millions of illegal aliens with no claim in either fact or right on the USA, all the while slobbering out some crocodile tears about how he doesn't want to break up the families of those illegals.
As the kids say, WTH? and WTF?
Can anyone check to see if Newt's "degeees" are legit or from the back of some matchbook cover institution of hiigher learning?
Let's hope so, but face facts, Paul is just too marginal and too outside the mainstream to be a viable long-tern contender. He'll fade quickly enough, but let's hope that his Israel-skepticism finds some traction with the other candidates [HA!] and the public at large HA! HA!!].
Interestingly, KSM admitted, while being waterboarded 183 times [and we know how effective torture is when it comes to elicting the truth], that US support of Israel was his overwhelming personal motivation for his participation in the 911 attack. [And there's no reason to belive that KSM is unique in that POV]. A pity Scheiffer doesn't want to dreg that inconvenient fact out of the memory hole, and a pity that Paul didn'tthink to do it himself.
Has no one inventoried Brooklyn College's supply of bathroom tissue? Perhaps they were facing a shortage and thought ot put AD's "papers" to its most productive use?
Any chance that DR will give up the ghost, make himself a honest man, renounce his america citizenship and make aliyah to Israel?
[I awake with a start] wow, that was some dream I just had! Yo see, Dennis Ross...
Given the inevitable? and obvious hatefulness of Rachel' emotions and thoughts [if they can so charitably be described as such], it's clear that the world would be better better served not by her stream-of-consciousness but by a stream-of-unconsciousness.
Sweet Jesus, what it's going to take with this?
Can't say the reasons why? As in don't know? Or as in afraid to say publicly? I expect better from Pillar.
Really, when representatives of Big Oil weasel into, er, excuse me, are appointed to gov't positions which allow them to "regulate" the very industry which has enriched them to no end, no one has a problem seeing that there is a conflict. Likewise, reps from Big Pharma, Agribiz, the Big 3 Automakers, etc...regulating the various industries from which they hail [and no doubt plabn to return] you name it. conflicts are spotted with more frequency than Elvis, UFOs, bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster.
But when loyal and dedicated servants of Israel and Likudism and Zionist expansionism, who have tireslessly advocated all manner of pillage and plunder and rapinge [yes, it's archaic] on behalf of The Light Unto The Nations are appointed to positions of authority formulating and executing US foreign policy, and suddenly the US finds itself engaged in a war with Iraq, a war which the Solomon-like authors of "A Clean Break" tirelessly advocated with every Jabotinskyite breath, suddenly we don't see a conflict? Or are afraid to see a conflict?
Come on, what are we, children?
If we can't see this conflict, we may as well slash our wrists nad our throats with Occam's Razor
From another context, we can't help but wonder [paraphase] : at long last, have they no shame?
Still, some among the most hardline Zionists do not hesitate to shoot children, often under the flimsiest of pretexts, so why would we expect them to treat the artwork of kids any more leniently?
Umm, if this is linked to the Israeli Consul General, would that not constitute interference in US domestic affairs? And if so, could not the US Dept of State declare the Israeli CG persona non granta and demand his/her expulsion?
Yawn. Just awoke from my nap, had the craziest dream about the US protesting outrageous acts of interference by Israel in purely domestic US affairs...
Can the rest of us be pardoned if we suspect that not solving the I/P conflict, or worse still, resolving it on terms totally favorable to Israel, is the keyt o POTUS Obama's second term.? The good rabbis surely realize this, when will the rest of us sheeple be allowed to tumble to that thought?
Well, that's the kind of news that makes me want to "hit" the bottle.
It's 10 o'clock, do you know where your congreesman is? What what interests he's serving?
Hey, as US Ambassador to the UN, "a lot" is a total understatement.
does anyone dare to ask Ms. rice if sahe ever personally disagrees with the drivel she's forced to espouse by virtue of her position? and does she wear sensible shoes when, as US Ambassador to the UN, she's expected to walk-out of various int'l fora critical of Israel?
No mystery to these jaded eyes.
The merest mention of former Gotham Chief Executive Ed "Crazy Eddie" koch is all you need to know that the interests and the proper care and feeding of Zionism and Israel First and Lidukism and The Gush are foremost in word and deed, though not openly or honestly mentioned.
Additional news flash from former Sec Def Gates : the sun rose in the east this morning, and is expected to set in the west this evening.
Better late than never, of course, but why not give voice to these ideas when in office? The worst that will happen is he's dismissed from his Cabinet post and winds up on the wrong end of typical likukist, Israel-first libels and slanders and prevarications. At least we'd know Gates had a pair, and was willing to go down, guns blazing.
Id like to add, "and without shame."
Paraphrasing erich Segal: "Being Zionist/Israeli/Likudist means never having to say you're sorry. Because you're never wrong."
Elsewhere,Ii have suggestedthat the Israeli national motto is along the lines of "What have you done for me lately?" "Lately "being defined as no more than the last five seconds.
I'd rather boil out my urine and drink that.
Good for Romney. I knew a tiny something of his dad had to have rubbed off on him.
But let's see if he can continue to uphold that belief under the inevitable barrage of criticism he's going to be forced to endure.
I do recall that tiresome little novelty item from circa 1995, but I need more proof than Adam Sandler. A Sports Illustrated profile of Carew from around 1982-83 stated that [as of then] he had not officially converted. But that's almost 30 years ago.
Here's the test: let Carew apply for entry into Israel under the Law of Return, and then let him express interest in moving into an illegal West Bank settlement. But i'm afraid that even if RC is still as goyish as Cotton Mather, he might be allowed in as a propaganda-PR stunt.
Doesn't count, a convert [but just try telling THAT to the late Dick Young].
BTW, it's not clear that Carew ever officially converted, his interest in Judaism stemmed from the fact that his wife was Jewish. [ He may have done so after I stopped following baseball many years ago.]
And no doubt Bobby Thomson was an anti-Semite for hitting "The Shot Heard 'Round The World"?
By Allah, talk about a world-class level of insecurity? BrancaJewish under mosaic law is interesting, but hardly a world-changing event. Sigh.
As for the comments of The Dersh, well, want else can you expect from that creature?
I really don't know why we would expect anything different or anything better from Morris.
He's clearly so drunk with power over the privledged position of "his" narrative of the I/P conflict versus the I/P conflict as narrated by the victims, that any questioning, any doubts, any disagreement could only be the result of anti-Semitism, Arab Islamofascist violence, and jihadi murderousness.
Morris and his ilk clearly live in a world all their own - we're lucky indeed that they deign to allow the rest of us to visit from time to time. While we do so, we should neither be seen nor heard. Especially not seen.
It's going to be tough for Morris et. al. when reality finally catches up to them and falls on them like a ton of bricks.
Americans, not so much?
I wonder if S&P has downgraded Israel gov't bonds credit worthiness/credit rating, as they essentially are guaranteed by the saps beter now as the american taxpayer?
Dan Crowther above says it well.
Does Gov Perry's so-called faith require him to stand with his coreligionists in Israel who suffer discrimination and harassment at the hands of the ethno-religious chauvanists who make up the Zionist majority? Or is there not enough votes in that for it to matter to him?
Xtians like gov Perry always make me feel much more warmly about the lions.
Hey, we can't be worried about any stupid death toll of American or non-Americans.
Gilead Shalit is still a POW!
Those are the priorities we need to worry over.
No surprise that the Likudist creature Eric Cantor is one of our peripatetic parliamantarians.
I wonder how many of that 20% voted against the extension of unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless? Or the Obama health care legislation, flawed as it was? Or to raise temporarily the US debt ceiling? Or any number of proposals one might care to mention which do not involve the care and feeding of Israeli aggression, war crimes and ethnic cleasing, but might be of some incidental material benefit to the US masses?
But of course, were one to mention any of that, Guess What one would be accused of?
Following up Dan Crowther's comment above, when our reps return to our fair shores, what can we expect them to say? And to vote for? I shudder.
Alas, both of these accursed daughters of darkness are more mainstream than PW or any of the regular contributors to this forum.
It's by no means an aberration - under another handle I used to post frequently on a very obscure political message board where I was the only Israel-skeptical voice. The amount of abuse I've taken has been phemomenal, with accusations of anti-Semite, Jew-hater, etc.. coming fast and furious and ever-so predictably.
Those two are in no way atypical, they represent a bigger slice of opinion than any of us imagine, or feared, and the loudness and shrillness of their voices is beyond measure.
No, let's not meet this little gorgon-like prevaricating Likudist harridan.
This thing is the flip side of the Pamaela Geller coin. A bad penny indeed.
When the conservatives talk about society-wide declines in standards, are they referring to the intellectual acuity of that creature?
And I have to laugh at a has-been like Gingrich and a will-was and never-will-be like Robertson claiming to oppose Islam because of that faith's perceived regressive practices toward the fairer sex: really, I didn't know either one was a member of NOW or suppoted the ERA.
Rubin is incompetent, a liar, or never learned how to tell time properly. The first and the third possible explanations can be corrected in some fashion, but as for the second, we'll let her own clumsy, painful verbal flailings-about and expository excretions speak for itself.
I cannot wait to see how quickly the GOP/Tea Party/Likudists insane-asylum escapees cool toward this most recent of their heroes.
So, does exhibiting Islamophobia-skepticism trump union-busting? We'll see, and I'm eager to stay tuned.
I heartily second Woody Tanaka's comment above.
I have no love for this repulsive and regugnant Israel Firster, but did it occur to anyone that perhaps this is parody? Something that ought to have been sent in to The Onion?
The part about sewing back the foreskin can't possibly be serious,even with AD's well-known divorce from reality and total avoidance of the truth.
The sound of it sure rings true though, which is the sign of s first-rate parody.
Can't agree. There's no reason to link "americanism" or any run-of-the-mill feelingsor sentiments or expresion of patriotism or love of country or simple pride in America to the Islamophobia which has been inflicted upon and infected the body politic.
The American public has been fed a steady drumbeat of Likudist/Israel First propaganda for decades. To imagine that the great masses of the sheeple could think for themselves and realize the simple truth that while the Arab/Moslem world may be a threat to Israel and Israelis and their expansion designs, there's little reason to think that the Arab/Moslem world is more of a threat to the USA and to Americans than any other region or country or people or organized superstition you might care to mention.
The computer folk like to say "garbage in, garbage out." When we hear a steady drumbeat of political garbage over the span of decades, with little little or no effective countervailing or corrective narrative, it's no wonder so many of us are so politically stupid. And sadly, happy to revel in that stupidity.
To paraphrase K. Marx, "Americans, wake up! You have nothing to lose but your Likudist-made blinders."
In fact, within the last two weeks it survived a legal challenge from a NYFD member who argued that, as 0911 first responder survivor, the Cordoba 51 is particularly hateful and upsetting to him. It'samazing that a court entertained such barratry and pettifoggering nonsense in the first place.
One hopes that this gorgon-like haridan, exposed as the brain-addled fraud she is, returns to the obscurity she so richly deserves. Or at least to the pursuit of much badly-needed cosmetic surgery. Remember how quickly Steven Emerson's star dimmed when he incorrectly, but oh so unsurprisingly, called the Oklahoma City bombing the work of Islamic militants? If Allah or any other imaginary playmate is just, that will be Geller's much-deserved fate.
She can go back to demoralizing US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan by sending them pictures of herself voguing and frolicking and generally turning heads [in the opposite direction, and stomachs] in a bikini. Talk about "material support for" and "rendering aid and comfort" to the enemy.
She's a living, breathing, walking, talking WMD - weapon of massive disgust.
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Oh, like the little likudist ignoramus couldn't wait a day and do so simple-fact checking? What an excuse. Halakic law ate my homework.
Yer right. It's an aesthetic choice of course, but apart from "House of Games, " "Glengary Glen Ross," and "American Buffalo" the guy has shown himself to be a tendentious blowhard repeating a bunch of tired themes and tropes and memes which even he has probably gotten totally disgusted with.
"Spanish Prisoner"? "The Winslow Boy"? C'mon, purely vehicles for his then spouse Rebecca Pigeon.
"Spartan" ? Cryptic would have told the tale better. One had to be a true spartan indeed to sit through the damn thing to completion.
"Race"? don't make me vomit.
Now he's just a ridiculous charactericature of the Angry White Man, spouting inanities at the drop of a hat and for no reason whatsoever except perhaps to hear himself bray. I'd like to drop him in the middle of Watts or Compton at 6PM, without money, a cell phone, credit cards, or access to an auto but with a street map of greater LA, a few bottles of water and a couple of protein bars, and let the would-be tough guy hoof it back on foot to Hollywood or Bel-Air or Westwood or wherever the creature calls home. Now, that's going to be an interesting play.
I dunno, I think way too much is being made of David's suppossed groundbreaking satire of the dominant narratives re the Israel-Palestine conflict. The guy's a comedian, and that breed is probably even more disreptuable than musicians. Comedians will do anything for a laugh, and having that conversation in that episode, however it was intended, and however it'sbeing interpreted, made a lot of comedic sense. I doubt any more can be made of it beyond it's essential logic [if there even is such a thing] in terms of comedic value.
I won't say David's been cribbing from me, but for years I've told friends, half in jest and half-seriously, that i would never sleep with the Israeli beauty Bar-Rafeli because of my Pally sympathies and my desire to disengage the US from any and all aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Besides, she's been busy with Leonardo da Caprio.
Tell me, which do you think will have more cultural/political traction - Larry David's schtichk [spelling?] or David Mamet's converion to Israel First Likudism? [Perhaps we should more correctly describe it as David Mamet's belated admission of Israel First Likudism. But I quibble].
"Jews go higher" may be meant in some spiritual or figurative sense.
Though you never know; I'm sure some of these boys love reading into that idea the notions of ubermenschen and untermenschen [spelling?].
REAL BIG SIGH in any case.
No massacres? Dier Yassin down the old memory hole?
Or do they just mean no massacres absent of a state of war and devoid of political purposes in the perpetrated by crazed, lone gunpersons
No massacres? Dier Yassin down the old memory hole?
Or do they just mean no massacres absent of a state of war and devoid of political purposes in the perpetrated by crazed, lone gunpersons
Crazy Eddie Koch and the Israeli flag are long-standing friends. and,sad to say, there'sprobably a lot more to that relationship than there was to the Koch-Bess Meyerson act way back when.
Just another day at the office at Kibbutz Manhattan!
How sad, indeed. He's gone from "Sexual Perversity in Chicago" to political putridity on cable.
Instead of "American Buffalo" it's "Americans, Buffaloed" or even "Likudist Buffalo Dropings."
Mamet's always been a one-trick pony at best, yet i still regret thatthe gent who gave us "House of Games" and "Glengarry Glen Ross" has ended up in this place.
Chaos 4700, please let me have the vomit bag when you are done with it.
Since the Knessett's actions wil have no effect on the willingness of the USA politico class to change it's mind about it's purblind support of Guess Who, I suggest that we all at least enjoy the prospect of Guess Who continuing to shoot itself in the foot.
And with the Rupe Murdoch scandal in full bloom, it's a good day for schadenfreude. A day without bad press for Israel is like a day without sunshine
Will it have a negative impact on the Likudist NY Post? Hope does indeedspring eternal, and I'm always grateful for small favors, no matter how small. Alas, Morty Zuckerman's NY Daily News [no longer the hysterically rabid anti-commie, red-bating and red-hating tabloid of my youth] will pick up any and all slack.
Apparently it does [if Wikipedia can be trusted here] but it's nada to write home about.
link to en.wikipedia.org
Hey, I'd root against it on general principle.
Hey, can you image the high dudgeon of longliveisrael if the USA women s' team had beaten the Israeli womens' team?
Longliveisrael in reality probably cares nothing about America and americans - we're just a highly useful bunch of unwilling and unwitting dupes pressed into service as human shield for his true loveand his true loyalties.
As much as I loathe int'l sporting events generally, and soccer in particular, I was indeed pleased that the USAwomen put paid to the Brazil womens' team, a country of preternatural annoyingness in the int'l sporting scene.
OOOOPSS! An inconvenient little truth unexpectedly popped up out of the black hole of memory.
Well, from now on, recovering Catholic that I am, I'm going to wake up every morning and think of how I can help the Pallys, or at least mock and deride confused dupes like DSK.
While his alleged sexual contretemps in NYC had a cautionary "Bonfire of the Vanities" aroma about it from the beginning, the new charges leveled against DSK by his countrywoman bidsfair to have more legs. If so, and if a criminal case against DSK ends in a conviction, then DSK can tell us "I wake up every day and contemplate how much I have in common with the former President of Israel."
Well, like someone once wrote: "slavery is freedom..."
Why do our friends run around patting themselves on the back and constantly referring to themselves as "The Light Unto The Nations" when it's so painfully clear that theyare incapable of living up to that standard and get mighty mighty annoyed when anyone dares to point it out?
Is there any standard they are willing to meet, except the one of total expediency based on the Israeli national travail-du-jour?
I guess Rep Peter King got an early start on the holiday weekend, so the ever-relaible [if you're an unreconstructed Likudist] stepped up.
Ironic, is it not?
Governor Perry forgets or is just ignorant of the fact that manyPalestinians are Xtians and as such are his Bretheren in Christ.
As for the Jewish Israelis, by definition they have not been brought together in Xrist, and I'm taking a wild guess here, and no intention of ever doing so.
But don't worry, Perry and Hagee and their ilk will have the last laugh at The Second Coming, which their farcial polices will no doubt help to bring about. But probably not in the manner they perfer. Sigh.
Hey, weren't the world class legislators in the Knessett listening to the sage words of Bibi's son on Facebook, reported here just a day or so earlier, re his boycott of Arab products? Don't they know that boycotts are a good thing? At least when practiced by Israelis and aimed at a non-Israeli target?
Oh, wait, I momentarily forget who we're discussing - the undisputed world champion of the double standard.
Lizzy, I think you're a tad generous when you use the word "think" to describe the collective intellectual efforts of the MKs.
Couldn't these poor deluded soulsjust content themselves with paintball?
Remains to be seen, but they're certianly extremely strong contenders!
How clear is it that this wormy, rotten apple didn't fall too far from the tree.
The next time any Israeli or American apologist for Israel whines about the abject unfairness of subjecting The Light Unto The Nations to the unjust travails of BSD, it would be interesting to read back these pearls of wisdom fron Natanyahu the Younger. Not that it would make any impact, mind you.
My favorite mucho obscuro cyberspace provocateur [spelling?] proposed the outlines of a diplomatic alliance between The Holy See and the State of Israel about a year ago. It received the obsurity it deserved, but is sort-of amusing nonetheless:
www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewAll.asp?...
Is it too cheap-a-shot to note, but with absolutely no prejudice, that she invokes the belssing of the deity upon Israel first and the US second? In fact, almost as an afterthought : "... may God bless the State of Israel and certainly the United States of America." Certainly??? Gee, that's awffully charitable to your 300 million+ fellow citizens, most of whom will not be voting for you. Getting things a little out of order, are we Michelle?
Umm, she had to wait until Operation Cast Lead to change her mind???
That not exaclty a ringing endorsement of Ms. Walker's acuity or powers of observation, but WTF, better late than never. Welcome aboard, hope you can stand the heat.
Congrats. A higher profile means more people may start to hear your voice, and take heed.
No, they're not being forced into anything. But if Israel insists upon trodding the path to self-destruction, they have to be made to understand no one will join them on the trip.
And here's the kicker - "To do so, we need to seperate the Palestinians from their land."
AKA that flag which looks so much like the Confederate battle flag - is Bibi subcionsciously indicationg that a Jewish state is a lost cause"? Or is the trope "glorious cause"?
"Hips Don't Lie," but apparently lips do, especially when it's likudist blatherings gushing forth.
Shame on Shakira; she's put an immense dent into my fantasy life.
Just great - not that we didn't realize it already, but POTUS Obama is content to have the USA act as house counsel for Israel. But of course, that has NOTHING to do with why THEY hate us.
Hey, will the Humane Society, the ASPCA, PETA and like-minded groups, at the risk of being accused of Guess What, speak up on behalf of that unfortunate pooch?
Was it a Palestinian dog, I wonder?
I'm pleased to see that one of the many western liberal values Israel shares with the USA [or is it the other way around?] is a humanitarian concern for dumb animalsanda desire to manage the population of unwanted strays.
When can we expect "stray cats liable to death by stoning in Iran, according to sharia law"?
"...no one has the courage to address his major point, which is that had all of the Palestinians left or been made to leave, Israel would have no problem in the international community."
Oh, yeah, thanks; remind me to leave my doors and windows unlocked and a big welcome mat outside my home. That way, burglars will have no need to carry burglar tools and so attract unwanted attention from the local constabulatory.
Morris was born in 1948, so he did not "survive genocide" in any commonsense meaning of the phrase. [I suspect that you are thinking in a more figurative sense.] Unless, of course, he's selfishly keeping to himself the secret of time travel.
But, parphrasing Erich Segal, does surviving genocide mean you get to advocate aggression, war crimes and ethnic cleansing with impunity?
link to en.wikipedia.org
Boy, this echoes in an interesting and ironic manner:
"...Morris now criticizes Israel’s first prime minister and defense minister, David Ben-Gurion, for failing to do “a complete job” because “this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had carried out a large expulsion and cleansed the whole country”. "
Gee, i never ralized that the problem is not Israeli ethnic cleansing; good old David B-G was content to settle for incomplete measures. "Ethnic tidying-up" I'll call it.
Hey, don't forget that other great smoking gun "A Clean Break"
link to iasps.org
" Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions. " [I think the Turkey end of this great geopoloitical gambit is pretty much a nonstarter today].
Participants in the Study Group on "A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000:"
Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader
James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS
Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates
Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University
Yeah, well it would be awfully hard to make a case to blame Espiscopalians, Congregationalists, Unitarians, Disciples of Christ, Jehovah's Witnesses or pretty much any other body of organized superstition for a pointless US war with Iran.
Maybe the Wiccans and the Druids can be made the scapegoats - there's not a whole bunch of them, and I sense that they like to keep a low profile.
It's the anti-Godfather strategy - Israel makes the Palestinians an offer they can't ever accept. Thus...viola! Arab rejectionism, Arab anti-Semitism, Arab hostility, etc...
Earth to Newt - they're not voting for y ou, no matter how shamelessly you abase yourself on their behalf.
What about porcine?
Will the WT issue a "what were we thinking" mea culpa? I'd be curious to know their reasoning.
Stuff like this should be immortalized ina Hall of Shame of Questionable Commentary.
Maybe that'sthe next feature for this site?
With talent like that, Benador should boast not of her stable of talent, but of her dense pack.
Has any of those gents every been correct about any two subjects on any two consectutive days?
Yep! It's clear as day - Huma Abedin is the Sharia Candidate. Or is the Islamabad Candidate catchier?
I wonder - when people write stuff like what you quoted above, are they off their meds, overdosed on their meds, or simply beyond the point where any meds in any dosage can help. Perhaps she's just doing a bad parody of Dinesh D'szouza [spelling?] and his recent theory of POTUS Obama's plan to further daddy's African socialist agenda.
See, Marx is right - history repeats itself. It occurs the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. I never suspected that the second go-round on that idea would occur so so after the first.
Someone beam up the brain-addled Ms. Benador; she's obviously not of this earth.
Yeah, no doubt Huma's a "sleeper" Islamofascist Jihadist in a more fanciful turn of the imagination - here to beguile and seduce horny little Likudist trolls like Weiner away from their AIPAC/Israel Lobby loyalties. If so, she's failing miserably up to this point.
Born in the USA and moved to Saudia Arabia when she was two years old, returning at 17 to the USA to attend college, hmmm? Hey, how do we account for those 15 formative years? I say there's something very suspicious going on here, and I thank the selfless Elena Benador for pointing out this deadly threat to the welfare of Israel which exists right in our midst.
Thank Allah Ms Benador is here, along with the patriots represented by her [now defunct?] speakers bureau -- far-sighted, insightful patriots like Mike Ledeen, Dick Perle, James Woolsey, the late A.M. Rosenthal [did A.M. stand for "awfully mendacious"?], Frank Gaffney and the like. No seductive Moslem Scherherazades will pull the wool over the eyes of gullible, love-sick, bleeding heart American liberalswhile they are on the job!
I'm sleeping so much more soundly at night thanpreviously, secure in this knowledge.
link to en.wikipedia.org
By Allah, I am absolutely salivating at the prospect of some Likudist partisan or fellow traveller [accidently?] dropping the "living space" phrase bomb at some point in this debate, as a rationalization for continued Israeli occupation of you-know-where, or a bunch of unequal and dubious land swaps to midwife a two-state solution.
Chuck Krauthammer came real close a year or so back when he was criticizing POTUS Obama's [quickly abandoned] call for an Israeli settlement freeze, but managed to regain control and compose himself at the last moment. A pity; an apologetic [as if] and red-faced CK would be an irresistable bit of schadenfreude. It sems inevitable if "demographics" is the question at hand.
It will be amusing, when it does finally occur - wonder how it will be received, and wonder how deep and dark will be the memory hole which will swallow up mention of the earlier iteration of that unfortunate phrase. At least the English translation.
link to en.wikipedia.org
link to history1900s.about.com
link to merriam-webster.com
Given the pronounced tendency of The Israel Lobby to equate any and all criticisms of Israel with anti-Semitism, perhaps the grandees at Yale feared they were bound to go the way of AEI and the Saban Research Center at the Brooking Institution, so, it's a pre-emptive institutional mercy-kiling, sort of?
Reading between the lines in Rupert Murduch's Liudist NY Post, Abby Weisse Schachter certainly leads me to suspect that is her unstated cticism:
link to nypost.com
It's wishful thinking indeed to think that Weiner's peccadillos are in any way going to reflect negatively on the pro-Israel to the death mindset of our politico class and the media/intelligensia. And truth be told, the lies Weiner tells in support of his errant spiritual homeland bear little relation or little relevance to the lies he tells in support of his kinky personl needs. All it proves in the end is that A.W. has trouble distinguishing truth from lies; and when he doesn't, he simply doesn't care about the difference.
At worst, he's totally embarrassed and his political career is ended [not likely, it's probably just going on hiatus for a while].
While I perfer that he be repudiated for his politics, there's no chance of that so i'll take what i can get. [But why would a guy with such a great-looing wife do these things?]
By Allah, that insipid psuedo-candidate just makes me want to projectile vomit in abject disgust.
No doubt just the bling to wear if she's asked to give a command performance and render unlimited standing Os to Bibi upon the occassion of his next stemwinder, would-be Churchill that he imagines himself to be.
Maybe she can meet up with NY Knicks foward Amar'e Stoudemire, who thinks he Jewish, or sort of Jewish because his mom is Jewish or part Jewish [I kid you not - google the details of that idiot's trip to Israel last summer, where he personified the ever-handy tern "useful idiot"] and has gone so far as to have a Star of David tattoed on to one of his hands.
Gee, how about "The US has a responsibility to see that US lives and US property are respected all over the world"? Yes. I know it's a tad inconvenient for The Light Unto The Nations and the pandering jackals who give Bibi 29 standing O, but....
Supposedly the minimal function of any gov't is to protect the security of the persons who swear allegiance to it. Given the world class fatutity of Mark Toner's comments [upon whose direction, I wonder?] I'm starting to fear that I'm a citizen of a failing, if not failed, state.
This is preposterous beyond words.
Doth that lady ever cease to protest too much?
The more frenzied are the heated denials from The Israel Lobby and it's reprehensible spokepersons, the more closely said critics have cut deeply and closely to the heart of the problem.
It is amazing and sad to consider that the same Faoud Ajami is the author of one of the greatest political science review articles I've ever read, way back in 1976, "The Global Logic of the Neoconservatives" [a review of Robert W. Tucker's, "The Inequality of Nations."] Was 1976 really that long ago? And what happened to F.A. in between?
link to jstor.org
[Sorry, you'll have to go to the library to read the full essay - the link is a purchase-to-read site, but the original publication was in "World Politics" one of the best known journals in the IR/IP field].
We may be giving the late Bill Safire much more credit than he is due, and overdetermining the cause of his pro-Israel loyalties.
Was there any point prior to 1988, or any point since 1947-48, when Safire was less solicitous of his coreligionists in the ME? Methinks not. He may have been less vocal about broadcasting and acting upon his pro Zionist beliefs, but that might have been a function of his relative obscurity in the 1950s and 1960s.
Safire has always fetched and carried on behalf of Israel, and never made any bones about it. It looks a lot more like a case of ethnic/religious loyalties carried too far, and little more. One wonders, given the poor attitudes Nixon held about the Jewish community generally, how he could stand to be in Safire's presence, and worse still to be in Safire's debt for Bill's unquestioned skills as a wordsmith.
I'm afraid of dying, so I plan to commit suicide. Great logic, can't see a flaw in that plan.
Not quite. 10 POTUS and 19 Secretaries of State have talked the talk but refused to walk the walk. The Exceptions? Ike, the forgotten William P. Rodgers, and the oft-reviled James Baker. I hate to say it, but the US executive branch has consistently punched well-below it's weight, when not actually taking a dive.
Psraphrasing Nancy Reagan "Just Say No" to anyy and all Israeli and Israel Lobby demands. It won't be easy, but you've got to strt somewhere.
POTUS Obama may love his daughters, but he's terrified of AIPAC. So, guess what that means?
Yeah, POTUS Obama can stare at the unspeakable Bibi and beam hate thoughts at him, but until he puts concrete political actions on the table, concrete actions unacceptable to Bibi and his ilk, it's just a pose. It's neither sound nor fury, and it signifies less than nothing.
Is it possible to award Hannity a Likudist Suck - Up Award for his suggestion - albeit made in jest - that Bibi look for a Hawiiian birth cert?
Actually, that could be quite a turn, as yahoo could be unceremoniously deprived of his USA citizenship for the commission on an expatriating act [service as an official in a foreign gov't]. A pity there are no crimianl penalties attached to such a judgement.
Bibi Philly years - yet another great argument for immigration reform.
Egypt's "commitment to peace" demands Egypt's commission of an act of war?
What's wrong with this picture - other than the fact it's painted by AIPAC?
link to counterpunch.org
Uri Averneri [spelling?] makes that point:
"It was all rather disgusting.
"There they were, the members of the highest legislative bodies of the world’s only superpower, flying up and down like so many yo-yos, applauding wildly, every few minutes or seconds, the most outrageous lies and distortions of Binyamin Netanyahu.
"It was worse than the Syrian parliament during a speech by Bashar Assad, where anyone not applauding could find himself in prison. Or Stalin’s Supreme Soviet, when showing less than sufficient respect could have meant death.
"What the American Senators and Congressmen feared was a fate worse than death. Anyone remaining seated or not applauding wildly enough could have been caught on camera – and that amounts to political suicide. It was enough for one single congressman to rise and applaud, and all the others had to follow suit. Who would dare not to?
"The sight of these hundreds of parliamentarians jumping up and clapping their hands, again and again and again and again, with the Leader graciously acknowledging with a movement of his hand, was reminiscent of other regimes. Only this time it was not the local dictator who compelled this adulation, but a foreign one.
Sadly, this pretty much sez it all. We have to change this.
Your courage is an inspiration. You did a great day's work, keep it up.
Yeah, and Kool Aid to wash down the Happy Meal.
One of the saddest displys of ignorance and political cowardice I've seen in my lifetime.
Amen. It's a pity that the Iraqis did not greet the US military in 2003 with the same fervor and breathless, brainless worship with which Congress greeted Bibi.
Oh, pray tell, what type od culture/cultures do Cantor and his like-minded Israel-first, confused loyalties partners-in-crime at AIPAC have?
Likudist Story - being pro-Israel means never having to imagine you're wrong.
Well, at least POTUS Obama is more credible claiming Irish roots than was NY Knick Amar'e Stoudemire's claim to having Jewish roots. What a mindless panderere - he's turned me into a lifelong Nets fan.
link to huffingtonpost.com
Dennis Ross.
From Wikipedia [always taken with a grain of salt]: link to en.wikipedia.org
Famed expatriate movie director, 70-ish [not Woody Allen, however] fluent in several languages, victim of multiple political tyrannies, a favorite of the French intelligensia, is looking for soul-mate, age not important but "youngish" preferred. Some long-standing legal issues to be resolved, but clear-sailing ahead, relationship-wise, other than that. Not much into foreign travel these days.
No entry for him in wikipedia, FWIW.
Can he be good old Mike Ledeen off his meds and freed from his straightjacket? The Italian connection makes me perhaps so.
"Meanwhile, Eric Cantor supports Netanyahu in his opposition to Obama..."
OMG! I would never have suspected THAT might come to pass.
What next? Reports that the sun rises in the east, sets in the west, and does so on consistent basis?
Let's not be too surprised at Rep Eddie Cantor's confused and divided loyalties. It's probably the only thing that got him into elective office, and the only thing which will keep him in one.
It'a a pity that "Obama" doesn't rhyme with anything useful, the way that "Reagan Or Begin?" was used back in 1981 during the AWACs struggle - incidentally, the last time The Israel Lobby lost an important political battle [imagine, by comparison, if the evil empire of baseball, the NY Yankees, had managed a 30-year unbroken reign as MLB's world champions?]
Maybe "Barack Or The Hack?" but it doesn't clearly enough identify Bibi as the hack. I'm throwing the floor open to suggestions.
I say let them boo. Contrasted to the weak-kneed, doe-eyed, trembling-legs, thrall-like breathless worship with which these ludicrous Likudists will ineviatably greet every word uttered by Bibi, their confused and divided loyalties should at last be apparent to all.
What's he got to lose? Well, I doubt if former Senator Mitchell wants to be savaged ona daily basis by the likes of Dershowitz, Foxman, Harris, et. al., be treated like a pariah by the Senators he formerly served with, have his reputation blacken and smeraed and besmirched in cyberspace by Schussel, Geller, et.al.
Hey, a former Senator need love and want props too. Hence, minimize one's unpopularity
There's probably a much better way, pithier, more relevant to get at this, but WTF , a liberal arts education has got to be good for something:
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action.
OMG! Exactly how long did it take former Senator Mitchell to figure that out at last?
And's that's a hugh part of the problem - the Dennis Rosses among us NEVER resign, and patiently wait out the George Mitchells among us to throw in the towel and resign. Quietly.
Unless and until Mitchell is going to go public in a big and active way, which will necessitate burning his bridges to POTUS Obama on this issue, what was the point? At least stay in and try to "cancel out" Ross.
Count me as very surprised if POTUS Obama even thinks toughts along those lines. The thought that he's goingto say that aloud is well, let's say it's pretty amusing.
Are you using a unique calendar and, unbeknownstto therest of us, today is February 31st?
As our politicos will predictably fall very silent, let's hope at least PETA, the ASPCA and the Humane Society have the courage to raise theor voices in criticism.
"Non-brothers" and/or "sisters," obviously.
But seriously, Cornel West is a goofy as the day is long, but his heart is generally in the right place. From having parsed a few of his works, West's use of "brothers" is clearly meant to indicate someone with who [whom?] West feels some sort of ideological kinship and politcal commonality of interest[s].
Plus, don't forget - West, in a great quip, referred to the unspeakable Larry Summers [during Summer's reign of error as Harvard University president] as "the Ariel Sharon of American higher education." Wish I'd said that first!
West - 1 ; Likudist lackey - 0
A day without Hasbara is like a day without sunshine?
So, that obviously makes Bibi the Bull Connor of this era?!
WOW, does Marry Peretz know that someone has hacked into his computer and writing stuff under his name?
February 32, 2012 [Some Alternate Universe I'd Like To Visit] President Barack Obama, addressing the Israeli Knessett, and respondingto repeated Israeli and Israeli-influenced domestic American demands that he pardon convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, asked that the Israeli judiciary reopen the case of convicted Israeli nuclear whistle-blower Mordechai Vannunu.
"This is a man who was drugged, kidnapped and coverly spirited from Italy to Israelby the Mossad. By comparison, Pollard tried to flee to the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C in the vain hope that he would be offered sanctuary. He pled guilty on open court to a series of uncontested charges, charges much less serious than could have been lodged against him. To this day, he remains neither grateful nor cooperative nor repentent considering how lightly he has been treated."
Continuing further, the POTUS said that "continued Israeli harping on this issue, and it is nothing but harping, which is purely with thr sovereign jurisdiction if the US and it's judicial system, cannot help but have a detrimental effect on good relations between the two countries. A word to the wise is generally sufficient, but it's impossible to forget the mule-like stubborness and world-class self-righteouness of the folks we're dealing with here."
The POTUS rhetorically observed "our friends in Israel might be a tad bit discomforted if the US were to abrogate and denounce the US-Israeli agreement clossing the books on the USS Liberty, and seek to reopen that case at every oportunate moment. Will it have to come to that?"
Oh my, is it February 32nd today?
Your suggestion is admirable indeed; alas, it would hold Israell to the same standard to which all other countries are expected to conform. And we know that's not allowable. So you are merely preeching to the converted.
From "The Light Unto The Nations" to "A Law Unto Itself."
What's the next stop on the Zionist Self-Destruction Express?
Well, I guess some holocaust survivors are more worthy than others.
Where's the Likudist reincarnation of George Orwell when we really need him?
I remember as a kid, when the NY Daily News was owned by the Paterson and McCormick families, what an insanely right-wing anti-Communist rag it was.
What's the political distance between midwestern isolationism to eastern cosmoploitan divided loyalties?
Now it's an insanely right-wing Likudist rag which tries [perhaps in a futile attempt at mitigation for it's loathesome ME positions] to be a somewhat liberal-populist working class mouthpiece. A nice example of the Progressive Except Palestine position.
I've seen similar images dozens of times, both pro- and anti-Israel in sentiment.
I think that the US public has been so banboozled for so long on the value of US support for our Israeli "ally" that the image in question no longer even causes an eyebrow to be raised, either in protest or merely incomprehension.
As one of Israel's most faithful lickspittles remarked in a different context, the late Senator Moynihan of NY, we've merely "defined deviance down." I daresay in this context we've defined dishonesty, if not disloyalty, downward.
Like they used to say, pre-PC era "thst's awfully white of you" David!
As a lifelong fallen-away and totally disgrunted Roman Catholic, I am glad that members of the Jewish faith no longer view me as an enemy.
But, as some Hollywood vulgarian of yesteryear is reputed to have said, please "include me out" of Israel's blantat, clumsly, ham-handed attempts to enlist me in their war against the Palestinains.
Would it be too mean of me to reaspond with "let you and him fight" while I retire to the safety of the sidelines?
But seriously, folks; the ugliness and the vulgarity of that David Myers' ideas, such as they are, defy description.
What's that old saw about the harest thing about riding a tiger is dismounting?
I await the day when Ms. Ros-Lehtinen gets herself crosswise to these political gangsters and kneecappers and armbusters. Turnabout will be such fair play. And she'll see at last all the gratitude she will have garnered for years of servile, supine, thrall-like fetching and carrying on behalf of The Israel Lobby.
What about: the USA must choose between Bibi/Tzipi/Lieberman/the Likud and peace? And there's nothing in between.
Peter King and his fellow travellers?
There's no idiot like a useful idiot.
By Allah, we Gothamites are such clucks it's not to be believed.
No doubt that the same clowns who voted to renamed the Queensboro Bridge after former mayor [and arch Zionist] Ed Koch [why can't his buddies in the Knessett come through and name an illegal West Bank Settlement after the the former mayor and would-be movie and restaurant critic?] will no doubt fall all over themselves to get this little peicce of propaganda inflicted upon the rest of NYC.
I must second Annie's suggestion that a security barrier/fence/wall/euphemism-of-your-choice be erected to complement said propaganda.
Failing that, perhaps I'll sponsor an open competion among NYC's many graffitti "artists" to "tag" that structure. I'll spring for the spray paint. and the bail money, as needed. No doubt i'll be charged with providing material assisstance to "terrorists."
Who would have thought, instead of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolff" all the time Liz was pining for a role in "Who's Afraid of Paul Wolfowitz?"
The highly-touted Israeli "Charm Offensive" of a few months ago sure seems to have petered out pretty quickly.
Let's see if Rather, no longer a king of the MSM, talks up this incident. I'm betting he will not.
Too optimistic by half. No matter how small, the hard core pro-Israel/pro-Likudist/pro-settler minority wil set the terms of debate in the USA, and the rest of us are going to have to respond to it.
Though, delicious thought time: if American Jews did desert the Israeli cause, who would be left to prop up the Xtian fundies and the Xtian Zionists as they seem to have all the intellectual power of a crate of rusty crowbars? I would love to see someone like Rev Hagee try to articulate a pro-Israel position entirely on his own intellectual steam rather than reciting ill-disguised AIPAC talking points like the tame Judean-Samaritian Candidate he is. I doubt if it would be a pretty sight.
Yes, it's clear that it's totally the fault of the Pallys - no doubt that they lollygagged shamelessly and got in the way of the Israeli mortar rounds instead of immediately taking cover. Yet another transparent ploy to gain the undeserved sympathies of the weak-minded bleeding hearts who oppose every Israeli word and deed.
By Allah, I'm estatic that gimlet-eyed, peerless seekers of the truth like Jennifer Laszlo Mizhrahi are around to give us the unvarnished, unbiased truth about yet another instance of Palestinian perfidy!
Really, does Matthews and company really believethat the Xtian Zionists would be given the time of day off of a broken clock if they were not so ready, willing and able to act as useful idiots and catspaws for The Israel Lobby?
I hate to make invidious generalizations, but the run-of-the-mill Xtian Zionist appears as if s/he would have trouble hitting water if s/he fell out of a boat. They are contemptible, but they are in the end just another set of dupes to be used as playthings by The Israel Lobby. They are to be pitied as much as condemned.
Holding them responsible makes about as much sense as being angry at the thermometer when you have a raging fever.
And for their troubles, their reward was....
BTW, it's easy enough to understand why Mcconnell is no longer employed by the News Corp. of Rupert Murdoch.
The only thing "constant" is the metronomic regularity which with the great unwashed masses are forced time and time again to endure the endless iteration of that mendacious, fabulist meme.