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lobewyper

Age 69, white male, gentile, politically independent, US citizen,graduate degree.

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  • The Tantura massacre of 1948 and the academic character assassination of Teddy Katz
    • This is a story about profiles in courage in 1) recognizing that truth is fundamentally sacred and 2) resisting the most powerful social pressures that it is humanly possible to level against an individual. Katz and his fellow truth-tellers have earned my deepest gratitude.

  • AIPAC taking all but 3 freshmen Congresspeople to Israel in effort to sabotage Iran deal
    • The Israeli government is an embarrassment with its blatant efforts to lobby for support. No other country engages in such shameless efforts to benefit themselves at the expense of others.

  • 'NYT' addresses pro-Israel donors' influence over Congress
    • Krause,

      I think you're underestimating the importance of the article. The NYT in the past (e.g., see Jodi Rudoren's work) has not even come close to calling out the lobby. The article's link to J Street can be seen--at least in part- as an effort to avoid charges of anti-Semitism. Finally, I don't understand why you feel Palestinians should have been quoted on this particular subject.

    • Phil wrote:

      The New York Times has finally done it: an honest piece about the Israel lobby’s financial influence over Congress. The Republican side of the aisle, anyway. Reporter Eric Lipton explains that the Republican orthodoxy on Israel is a reflection of big money: - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      This (long overdue) investigative piece about the lobby can be seen as part of a concerted attempt by the Times to support the agreement. It seems to me that the Times may have concluded that Mr. Netanyahu must be jettisoned b/c he threatens middle eastern peace.

  • How Obama won on Iran
    • Rusty wrote:

      Netanyahu lost his veto-proof majority with that stunt, forcing Democratic congresscritters to choose between him, with the Republican leadership’s backing, and the President - See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      Rusty,

      There are plenty of Republican voters who are also in favor of this deal with Iran. They are an important part of our electorate and we need to recognize their forthcoming contributions to the agreement's passage. Boehner and co. are risking the support of these voters by opposing it as well as being charged with war-mongering. Netanyahu is making an abject fool of himself by insulting our leader and calling his and his state dept.'s judgment into question. N's moves here can only accelerate the questioning of unqualified US support of Israel in the minds of many previously unqualified supporters.

    • joemowrey wrote:

      Ten bucks says there will eventually be an unprovoked attack on Iran by either the U.S. and or Israel. History has shown repeatedly that the U.S. rarely if ever opts for peace when war (no matter how irrational or destructive) is an option.

      Disagree, Joe. I think the more likely outcome is that neither the US nor Israel will attack Iran, so long as Iran allies itself with the US against Muslim jihadists. We (the US) badly need the assistance of Iranian boots on the ground.

  • DEAL!
  • Netanyahu's speech and the American Jewish condition
    • Jwalters wrote:

      "This is one of the most honest, fair-minded, and thorough articles I’ve ever read on this topic."

      Totally agree! This post of Phil's is going to be required reading in a lot of different places very soon and it is going to stimulate a great deal of discussion, especially in the Jewish community. (Wish it could also be published in the NYTimes or WaPost.)

  • Obama took on the Cuba lobby-- when will he take on the Israel lobby?
  • Sh*tstirring Jeffrey Goldberg dumps diplomatic sh*tstorm with 'chickensh*t' quote
    • @Shingo

      Yeah, you're right. (I don't get sarcasm particularly well.)

    • @ Shingo

      What about this authored today by Jerry Slater?

      "By contrast, Obama has shown great political courage: ignoring the Israel Lobby, Congress, the Jewish vote, and the probable electoral consequences, he has used his full powers, including open threats to end all U.S. political, diplomatic, economic, and military support of Israel unless it ends the occupation and allows the creation of a viable Palestinian state.

      "As anyone with any understanding of the realities knows, such steps are the only way to end Israeli intransigence, do justice to the Palestinians, reduce the Islamic terrorist threat to the U.S., and save Israel from itself. Kudos to Obama for understanding this, acting on that understanding, and courageously disregarding the U.S domestic politics of the issue."

  • British Parliament votes overwhelmingly to recognize Palestinian state
    • Yes, I do. I think this vote was an unbelievably huge landslide against Israel and will be a wake up call for the American government. The American people hate bullies

  • US Congressman Danny Davis calls for lifting the blockade of Gaza
  • Salaita's hire set off fundraising alarm at U of Illinois, per emails to chancellor
  • Avishai says we misrepresented his views
    • CitizenC, thanks for the Thrall and Siegman links. Both articles are "must" reading for those interested in I-P and provide much-needed context for the current Gazan conflict.

  • First night of Israeli ground operations kills 27 Palestinians; Ambulances come under fire attempting to retrieve the injured
  • 'Haaretz' removes red-baiting headline -- 'I'm not anti-Israel' -- on Steve Walt interview
  • 'Israel is the home of all Jews,' declares a right-wing official
  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
  • Simon Schama's Israel whitewash
    • Sean, I generally agree with your views. Yes, militant pro-Israel activists are a definite problem. What I find interesting is the ever-rightward movement of Israelis generally. The predisposition to this movement is to be found, in my opinion, in the Jewish indoctrination that one is different from non-Jews, should in certain matters remain separate from them (e. g., discouragement of intermarriage). and of the widespread perception among Jews that they are often being threatened and victimized (even by Palestinians). I don't know if the latter tendency is common among the highly ethnocentric or not. I would think it would be possible to be ethnocentric (e.g., "Irish and proud") without seeing oneself as particularly subject to victimization. I also agree that ethnocentrism is a natural human tendency (to which IMO we all are genetically predisposed).

    • seanmcbride wrote, in response to my pessimism about the possibility of reversing Jewish indoctrination starting in early childhood and continuing:

      "I had no problem deconstructing my own cultural/ideological indoctrination (Roman Catholicism) and I have known many Jews who were able to undergo the same process of skeptical questioning regarding Judaism."

      Sean, my take on this is that it's not so much Judaism (which has much to offer, BTW), but the sense of one's "Jewishness." The idea that as a Jew, one is different from non-Jews-and, often-superior to them, that non-Jews dislike and mistrust Jews, that the "tribe" is the only real haven of safety, etc. These attitudes affect (should I say, "infect?") most Jews and are only partly associated with Judaism per se. And they are probably very resistant to change, and more so than religious attitudes, per se. I agree that many individuals are "sleepwalkers" using your terminology. I'm merely suggesting that one can sleepwalk to tunes other than purely religious ones, and that one can much more easily free oneself from the blinders of Judaism than from the sense of one's "Jewishness," which entails beliefs of one's specialness, victimhood, and etc. Of course, as you point out, attitudes and habits of mind of the type we are lamenting are far from being limited to Jews.

    • I just wrote about the "deeply ingrained attitudes and beliefs" stemming from early childhood indoctrination--an indoctrination that is reinforced during the entire life-span of many Jews, thus truly rendering it "second nature."

      Where I think some of us go astray concerns the apparent belief that hasbara is always a conscious and deliberate attempt to distort historical reality. While this almost certainly true of some apologists, for many others hasbara IS reality, due to the lengthy and continuing indoctrination in the "us vs. them" mentality. Part of the tragedy (and sometimes overlooked) is that many hasbaratists cannot and do not recognize those aspects of their own personal belief systems for what they are in reality: Hasbara.
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    • seanmcbride wrote:

      "I’ve noticed that most cultural and ideological wars revolve around emotional and irrational ego issues that reasonable people should find easy to overcome if they make an effort."

      Thanks for your reply, Sean. I think that the indoctrination most Jews undergo all their lives starting with early childhood which I mentioned (above) is unfortunately more than an ego issue. It's a matter of deeply ingrained attitudes and beliefs--the kinds of things that have become second nature and are thus extremely resistant to change. I do, however, admire your optimism about this.

    • Sean wrote:

      "One would expect Schama to be eager to explore in depth the underlying causes of this peculiar historical phenomenon [the conflict with the nations], but no go — his intellectual curiosity doesn’t take him there."

      Sean, no Jew emotionally wants to go there, because to do so would necessitate being "disloyal to the tribe." A good part of this involves widespread Jewish indoctrination of their people with the beliefs that 1) they live in an essentially hostile (to them) world, 2) that the only really dependable lifeboat is the collective (the tribe), and 3) that to criticize the actions of the tribe is disloyal and puts one at risk of "excommunication" and severe punishment.

      Even many of the most enlightened Jews don't want to address your question, because they fear that opening that door would amount to acknowledging that the conduct of at least some Jews during various historical periods has contributed signficantly to the hostility they have historically experienced. So, it's not a question that would easily lead to serious and honest historical examination, and that is a tragedy, because I think that there are important lessons waiting for us-as a species-to learn from the history that you propose we should be examining.

      I would like to point out that no lesser a light than Raul Hilberg (The Destruction of the European Jews, Vols. 1-3) at least tiptoed around this issue, after he discovered that the Italians were especially resistant to giving up their Jews to the Nazis because of the degree to which Jews were "integrated into" Italian society. He did not, unfortunately, explore the specific factors such integration involved. But Hilberg was courageous enough to have at least raised this as a question deserving of historical examination. I don't think Hilberg was ever accused of being a "self-hating Jew" for doing so. Why should not both Jews and non-Jews be able to explore the same issue without being automatically deemed self-hating or anti-Semites?

  • Oren says Pollard 'sacrificed himself for the Jewish people'
    • Nobody seems to make much of the fact that one of our so-called allies bought top-secret information about its chief ally and benefactor. (And did whatever it pleased with that information.) Apparently Israel doesn't much care about the likely views of all this likely held by the average American [were (s)he ever to find out], who for years has been paying out of his/her own pocket more than $500 per year to the average Israeli...

  • AIPAC denies us credentials for its policy conference
  • Sheldon Adelson to honor Sean Penn at neocon ball
    • Pam,

      With great respect for you and your many contributions, I thought Penn was fantastic as the crooked lawyer in Carlito's Way. I disagree with you about his general skills as an actor, and because of that, I'm going to keep watching his movies. (I doubt that there is any correlation between Penn's acting abilities and his political beliefs.)

  • Meet the Jewish students who are taking on the Jewish establishment
    • CitizenC wrote:

      "...Mondo persuades itself (and tries to persuade us) that “the community” is the key arena of struggle. IMO this is quite wrong, “the community” is and will always be dominated by its wealthy Zionist machers and shakers..."

      Here's my take, CitizenC. The opening of Hillel to diverse points-of-view is of major importance because it affects gentiles as well as Jews, and gives both permission to think objectively and critically about Israeli policies without being smeared (as anti-semites or self-hating Jew).

      Yes, the machers and shakers will continue to wield tremendous power, but as the children and grandchildren of these people become more aware of what is happening in I-P, they will in turn influence their parents/grandparents and provoke them to greater objectivity toward Israel.

      I agree with Phil (citations?) that Jews are going to be necessary to create real change by permitting gentiles to think more objectively about what Israel has become and how it came to be that way. (Yes, Walt & Mearsheimer got the ball rolling, but its got a lot further to go.) What better group to start with than college students?

  • Bill supporting God-given Greater Israel comes to New Mexico
    • It never ceases to amaze me how frequently the Israelis shoot themselves in the foot. Do they really think Americans wish to favor their tiny country over all others by showering them with money, weapons, and blantant favoritism? Do they expect the people/elected representatives of this country to resolve, as individual states, their right to "greater Israel?" To thumb their nose at international law? Talk about doing things that bring discredit upon their collective! There have got to be people within the Israel and within the Diaspora that have better judgment than this. At a time when most Americans are struggling, we are supposed to give Israel 3 billion a year in aid? For what purpose? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

  • Surviving anti-Semitism smear, Walt and Mearsheimer seem to have influence in high places
    • Well, schlemiel,

      I believe W & M couldn't get their LRB article on the same topic published by the mainstream press in the US due to fear of anti-semitic smears. Call it the lobby, call it the "vigilance" of the MSM, but nonpublication here was spearheaded by powerful Zionists (including gentiles). Don't try to make a straw man to then knock down. Weiss has never implied that all Jews support Israel.

    • @Blownaway

      The Times of Israel is merely offering an opinion (unless it has successfully penetrated the White House, which I doubt). The Times is obviously attempting to prod Obama to obtain greater cooperation from Netanyahu. Why would Obama permit Kerry to go on a fool's errand? If he is so doing as the Times claims, the truth will eventually become evident. Not only would Obama look like a weak idiot, the hypocrisy of American middle eastern policy toward the I-P conflict would once again be made clear in a very public way.

    • Walt and Mearsheimer have spoken truth to power and narrow self-interest, and are winning. They will ultimately widely be recognized as intellectual heroes and patriots.

  • Open letter criticizes anti-boycott bills as threat to public debate
    • I don't know how you folks at Mondoweiss make all the great finds that you do, but I appreciate them very much. Thanks for this article, Alex. Loved that the two profs were on opposite sides of BDS but united in their defense of free speech. Pieces like this help sustain my hope that we Americans haven't totally lost our moral bearings and valuing of principled conduct.

  • 'FT' blast on settlements will strike fear at Hasbara Central (if not among liberal Zionists and 'glitzy blondes')
    • Well, Citizen, it's been a while since I saw it, but I think what I liked was the intense emotional intimacy between the two very different lead characters. Two people each sharing their own overpowering sense of aloneness with each other and needing to do so. Emphasized the unbearable nature of human loneliness (at least for normal humans). Sure, the fact that they didn't wind up in bed makes the story even more implausible, but that fact IMO made for a better and more intense story. I found the film charming and a welcome respite from the crap Hollywood usually dishes out.

    • No disrespect, DICKERSON, but I thought the film was quite good.

  • AP asks State: Why shouldn't folks boycott Israel when your own settlements policy is ineffective?
    • The Lobby is weakening noticeably, and writers are calling it out openly left and right. Any half-way intelligent American has now at least heard of AIPAC and its disproportionate and destructive influence. I still can't believe that the Israelis left themselves open to being portrayed as trying to compel the US into another war. The US economy and its society generally are on very shaky ground right now and have been for several years. For AIPAC and its allies to attempt to coerce the American people into a another war that in all probability would benefit no one and solidify the hostility of Muslims toward the US and Israel for the next fifty years is seriously crazy.

    • If you were prime minister and your supply of Israeli kosher pickles had been threatened, what would YOU have done??? (Who knows, the Israelis may also have warned that the supply of Israeli camels might dry up as well.)

    • "This interview is great. It exposes the utter hypocrisy of the US govt and, by extension, the entire anti-BDS movement."

      It also shows once again that campaign contributions can cause government representatives to knowingly lie to their constituents, an offense which should be prosecutable under the law.

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