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Maghlawatan

There are all sorts of things that never make it in to the discourse Judaism is not hatred. It's Mensches versus Cossacks. I am with the Mensches. Fairuz is a Mensch. So are the people in Gaza, Hass, Gideon Levy, Yasmin Levy, Gurvitz, Zochrot, Btselem. The only Sabras who have managed to escape the suffocating Groupthink of Zionism are those who had parents who could see what was happening. We have to get Jews back to Menschkeit. The religion didn't survive this long by being asshole focused. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/israeli-mk-gets-a-taste-of-palestinian-humiliation-at-qalandiyah-checkpoint.premium-1.516933 "And he is scared," wrote Kol, who has helped advance bills in the fields of children's rights, violence against children, health and education. "I am scared. I am scared that we will continue living like this. And that fear scares me." http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/brzezinski-the-syria-crisis-8636 But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream. In the corners there is light That is good for you And behind you, I have warned you, There are awful things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BC1qbEjhDU

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  • Gideon Levy calls out Israel's fundamental, racist religion: Zionism
  • Changing the narrative, from BDS to antifa
    • Zionism is a political ideology founded on the worship of aggression . Where victimhood is reserved for the victimiser. This made it impossible for the Zionist project to develop a society in which everyone has an equal share of basic rights. It is up to Israelis to abandon the memes of Zionism.

  • Netanyahu declares West Bank is Israel 'forever,' as liberal Zionists cry out for 'make-believe peace process'
  • 'Auto-anti-Semitism!' Naftali Bennett declares war on Jewish self-hatred in Israel
    • Israel should remember that whatever is done to Gaza will be kosher for Jews. There is no such thing as special in real life . Zionism is insane.

    • I love that poem

    • Zionism is insane. It has holidays to remember what an ass hole nebuchadnezzar was while running a concentration camp in Gaza. FFS.

      https://youtu.be/RijB8wnJCN0

    • Israelis should love Israel given nobody else does.

      https://youtu.be/G6ajuhikl7A

    • Bennett wants Israeli self love. Wankers.

      https://youtu.be/wv-34w8kGPM

    • Someone told Raphael Honigman that if he wanted to study and understand the history of the Shoah he would be at career end.

      It has been mythologised. There is no historic traction or coherence    There is just Anne Frank. And Israeli flags in Auschwitz  . The veneration of crap.

      The Shoah was a system issue. So was the initial re-emergence of anti semitism in the 1880s.

      There were 2 major depressions over that time. 1873 to 1896. 1929 to 45. Both involved credit bubbles. The collapse of credit bubbles is the entry point to social insanity.
      Demagogues bewitch angry majority people and then betray them.
      Judaism is basically 2 tribes. Ultra well connected people at the top of the financial system and ordinary Schmucks.  The former group are sociopaths like all elite finance people. Nothing Jewish about it.
      The Schmucks are ordinary people with a special culture.

      When the system collapses the politics go through specific stages. There is betrayal. Then there is victimisation and the apportionment of guilt, sin and blame.  Groups are targeted. In the UK now it is Eastern Europeans. In Iraq it was Yazidis. In Germany 1930 it was Jews. People like Trump turn on Jews when politically expedient. Vote bank politics. Blame the Jews.

      This is all linked to minority politics. In the US black people are used to being shafted. Listen to rap.
      Jews forget how the system works. Black people can't.   If a Jew makes it in Wall St it is a source of pride. It is also a source of danger when the system breaks down.

      People like Trump have no morals. They will abandon anyone for power.
      In the 19 30s the system collapsed via deflation.  Hitler was supported by the rich. Who love deflation.  He couldn't blame them. They are mostly majority. He blamed the Jews. Tell people a lie long enough and they believe it. The Schmucks got allocated the losses 
      Mass murder ensued.

      Marek Edelmann understood this.
      Zionism says they will always hate us. This is wrong. Every so often hatred will flower after the collapse of a credit expansion system. Jews will be blamed because they are a minority.  And easy to turn on.

      The answer is not to move everyone to the levant and get them to speak Hebrew in a German accent. The answer is not to give them nukes. Or let them run apartheid. It doesn't address the system issue  .

      The easiest way to sort out the problem would be to revise the kosher laws. Bring shellfish in from the cold. Ban trading in bonds. Otherwise expel the wall st sociopaths. 

      Judaism can be great but it needs to be rationalised. 
      Zionism is not the answer. Because the system did not change.

       

    • Bennett is insane. Israel is insane. I crossed paths with some Isghaeli "Jews" today. Shemesh. Lo. The German r with their fake plastic biblical language. The whole thing is insane. The greed. The persecution. The victimisation of the innocent. The abandonment of the victims. The acceptance of German money. The treatment of the Palestinians  .
      Askenazi Jews are people of the schmaltz. No butter with meat and no olive oil in Poland. As if they could escape the trauma by moving to Shangri la. It is a fucking nightmare.

  • As many as 1 million Israelis have left for the U.S.
    • Maoism was like Zionism. An attempt to override time and history. They don't tend to end well. Reality is a bitch.

    • It certainly won't be the song of songs

    • Gaza is occupied. Israel controls everythibg

    • Great comment.The trends all point to the same thing

    • A lot of the Isghaelis in the US are secular and better educated than the sabra rabble back home. The dynamics of Israel are very poor. V High birthrate of economically inactive Orthodox who are gaining the upper hand in the cultural sphere and turning the secular Schmucks who pay for everything away. If you were a thinking secular Jew would you want the Orthodox running the show?

  • 'We came to school and found the school destroyed': Israeli forces demolish West Bank school hours before children's first day
  • Im Tirzu, Israeli movement 'with fascist elements,' to meet at Jerusalem center with links to Reform movement
  • White Jews: deal with your privilege and call out Jewish support for white supremacy
    • It is a Ponzi scheme everywhere Catalan. Jewish élite greed is in the mix as usual. Not good for the schmuck class who always pay. Goldman Sachs is in serious trouble too.

    • She should be putting rates up and canceliing debt. As per the 50s . The Fed's job is financial stability. It is running a Ponzi scheme.

    • When there is growth there is no problem. When there is not, there is chaos . And Jews are forced to take sides. Which is not good .

      Every so often human societies enter periods of insanity. They are often preceded by credit bubbles and the worship of debt, plutocracy and deflation. The last one ended in the ovens of Auschwitz, in Sobibor and Treblinka.

      It is still iterating away in the group trauma of Israel.

      We are back in the madness now with another out of control credit bubble, debt worship, plutocracy and deflation.

      I was putting together a video on the idea of the allegory of bad governance which is a medieval picture from Siena in Italy. And I got together pictures of some of the main players today.  The Kochs,  Milton Friedman,  Cohn , Mitch McConnell, Yellen, Trump

      A lot of them unfortunately are linked by certain religious holidays. And people who play an oversized role   in credit bubbles which end in either war or economic catastrophe may be familiar with gefilte fish

      Ordinary Jews pay for the sins of the plutocrats. Especially the Orthodox.  Because Judaism doesn't do accountability. It is a dreadful model. And whose fault is it?

  • Charlottesville is moment of truth for empowered U.S. Zionists (who name their children after Israeli generals)
    • Me too. I think Charlottesville emphasised the point. Racism and Violence based on claimed victim hood are too repugnant to be sustainable long term.

      Israel is decent or it dies.

    • Jack Green

      Regular Jews in Israel are indoctrinated to hate. How else can a decent person explain Gaza.
      ? If you tolerate Gaza you look ridiculous whining qbout history.

      Maybe there is enlightenment in the words of the song. "Haters keep hating, fucking these models"
      The Zionist model is fucked. Cognitive dissonance broke it.

      https://youtu.be/Kh2FRFhS7QY

    • I think he is quite talented so I don't get why he is so loyal to dogshit like Zionism.

    • The answer is the Torah. Live decently.
      Or Hillel
      And get some therapy.
      Zionism is trauma.

    • Josh Marshall @joshtpm

      7: Put another way, I like the ADL, I like Ellison, I like the Democratic Party. From that pov, this is fucked up in every direction.
      In addition to being a monster in general @PhilWeiss almost comically distorts my views on the actual issues he's talking about.

    • I have been reading Norm Ornstein , David Frum , Maggie Haberman and Josh Marshall on Neo Nazism in Dixie. Rassenschande and biscuits with gravy.

      Marshall is really good on fascism. I saved some of his stuff as source material for the book I want to write on why Israel is fucked.

      Anyway who do I see described on his twitter feed as a monster? Phil Weiss. The name looked very familiar.
      Surely not fluffy Phil Weiss from Mondo.? But it was.

      Talk about cognitive dissonance. Rigorous truth telling re the US but omerta when it comes to Israel.

      The lies will bring it down. Israel is not a country. It is a failing project.

      And Phil obviously knows how to tickle @joshtpm.
      How utterly fascinating.

  • How 1967 changed American Jews
    • Jewish leadership is poor. It's linked to the small pick and the volatility of capital. Having an army doesn't change this. We don't know yet how much the decision of 1967 will cost.

    • They never had an army. They don't understand the limitations of state violence.

      What is also desperately sad is the idea that controlling East Jerusalem could trump the Holocaust. Trauma doesnt work like that.

      Israel will be dealing with the Holocaust for the next century.

  • Interrogating the Qatar rift
    • 3 of the demands are nonsense. Iran, hezb and Egypt. I think Sisi will lose control of Egypt. The old deal of repression in return for taking care of you is broken.

  • Days after our wedding, my husband Faisal and I hid in a Ramallah basement -- Iris Keltz remembers '67
    • Great writing. The most moral army in the world and its pillage department. THe IDF has always been classy.
      And being an innocent person caught up in Zionism''s trauma. It is still outrageous even today.

  • Maqloube denied! Celebrating Ramadan dinner at the checkpoint in Hebron
    • Israeli gdp is overestimated. There is no allowance for the legal costs associated with all the crimes of the occupation.

  • The failure of Ponzi scheme diplomacy: A review of Nathan Thrall's 'The Only Language They Understand'
    • John McDonnell is UK Labour party finance spokesman. They just delivered a stunning election performance. He said "hope always wins over fear. Kindness and generosity win over selfish greed. Solidarity will always succeed. " Israel is a moral clusterfuck

    • Zionism is trauma. And trauma is not rational. Eventally Israelis will regret the peace deals ignored and sabotaged. But groupthink is so alluring. Especially in Hebrew for chosen people with God in the background.

    • Shulman is very good. He wasn't educated in Israel so he knows what Judaism is. I honestly think Israel should drop the Jewish holidays. Why celebrate defiance of the tyrant in a tyranny ?

      http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/06/22/israels-irrational-rationality/

      Systemic cruelty inflicted over generations on innocent populations will eventually exact a price—probably a terrible price. It is an illusion to believe that large-scale eruptions of violence can be controlled, or their costs and results easily sustained.

      Perhaps “rational” is not the word we want. A policy driven mostly by greed, and also to no little extent by sheer malice, such as Israel’s, may be intelligible, but that doesn’t make it rational, and it is certainly far from wise. 

  • Why has the Israeli occupation lasted so long? It's good for business.
    • I think his 2008 book "an Israeli in Palestine" should have been called "a Jew in Palestine".
      The matrix of control is interesting. It wasn't possible to have a state based on Jewish values . Streicher would have been fascinated.

  • The Israeli army enters the inquisition business
    • The IDF used to be secular. Secular armies murder and carry out human rights abuses but within a relatively rational framework. Religious armies are for the birds.
      Israel needs a secular army. Because it is turning into a madhouse.

    • The problem with religious soldiers is fascist religious in times of war. Holy war is "not good for the Jews" yet it happens every time Israel goes turkey shooting in Gaza. It is so easy to find a military rabbi who will declare that Palestinians are Amalek or that it is OK to rape enemy women. Over half of Israeli army officers now are religious. They aren't even vaguely religious BTW. They are brainwashed.

  • The '67 War called Tony Judt to Israel -- where he found an 'anachronism' he 'intensely disliked'
    • In 1967 Israelis thought the Holocaust was over and that God intervened. Trauma doesn't work like that. 50 years later Israel is still fighting WW2.

  • Campaign to stop Linda Sarsour from speaking at CUNY was an epic flop
    • The notion that Jerusalem is hakodesh (the holiest ) makes me laugh. Zionism has debased it. Now west J is a city of hatred and darkness.
      Also interesting that Kodesh K d Sh and The Palestinian name quds q d s have the same semitic root .

  • 'To live or to perish' -- Norman Finkelstein on the Six-Day-War and its mythology
    • It's only important as a precedent. The big issue for Israel now is how to survive all the roosting chickens. It has several simultaneously slow burning crises it will not address.

    • It doesn't matter why Israel went to war in 1967. ThAt world no longer exists . Zionism bought off Egypt in 1979. Quiet in response to US taxpayer schmuck money. Israel never pays for anything.
      That allowed the settlement project to bloom. No danger on the western front.
      Now it's 2017. Egypt's population is 5x 1948 size.

      http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/06/08/egypt-the-new-dictatorship/

      "The dictator has staked his legitimacy on effectively fighting terror and turning around an economy that collapsed after the 2011 revolution; he has failed on both counts. The economy remains stagnant, with tourism down, inflation high, and huge, failing infrastructure projects such as a $9 billion expansion of the Suez Canal sucking up the country’s hard currency. Meanwhile, Sisi’s repression, Dawoud argues, has done little but foment anger. "

      Israel is like the kid of a rich businessman who provides everything. Including putting a lid on Egypt.

      And that is not possible indefinitely.

      The 2 biggest events in ancient Jewish history involved geopolitical chaos. One of them involved Egypt. Both involved the destruction of the holiest of holes.

      Israel can't protect itself from regional dynamics. It never could. Because there aren't enough Jews . Because of the culture. Because the land is too small. Because it is easy to invade.

      The land is only secure as part of a regional arrangement. Which is the Palestinian model.

  • Oren sees 'radical implosion' of US Jewish support for Israel -- then calls Palestinian polygamy 'existential threat'
    • I don't think anyone has thought about that.

    • How many kids do Birthright? Max 5000 per annum.
      American Jews are not educated to hate. Maybe some MBTI type S American Jews are attracted to Israel from a law n order perspective but imo the cultural gap is too wide. It's like the difference between Art Garfunkel and Naftali Bennett.

    • I think it is interesting that Oren admits that Israel has all the attraction of dogshit to many young Jews. The news coming out of Israel is uniformly dispiriting. Young American Jews don't tend to be nihilist.

      The Trump win last year exposed the chasm between AIPAC and ordinary Jews. AIPAC is a court power vehicle that will cosy up to antisemitism if it means access. Ordinary Jews didn't like Bannon''s videos and were turned off by people like Boteach ingratiating themselves. Zionism has nothing to offer US Jews. This is a serious structural problem.

    • Oren is vicious and barely house trained. Most of his peers are too. It always becomes visible in war when the mask slips .
      Zionism is an attempt to subvert time and space. With considerable collateral damage. Cos there is no such thing as a free lunch. Or a free country for a people with no land. Israel was a deal with Satan. Give me your children for the land.

    • "We only have one Jewish people, and we can’t afford to take any of it for granted. "

      Calling Mooser. Please make yourself known to reception.

    • Why is legitimacy still an issue for Israel 3 generations after it was founded? Why didn't Oren address this issue when he was in a position to do so?

  • Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    • I was reading about fractals. Patterns that reoccur in life at different levels both physically and emotionally. Could be a Jew thinking about Gazans or the whole of Israel''s Jews. Fractals repeat over time. And Israel won 1967. But football teams rise and fall. And so will Israel. And when it does lose a war there will be no mercy. Because Israel is merciless

    • Israel, the project, was never rational. It is pure emotion.
      1967 was marinated in messianism. Emotion to the power of insanity.
      Sure they keep it going now but so many costs are not accounted. WhaT are the chances the Zionists make a better job of it than the whites of Rhodesia? Israel is like a mixture of Tammany Hall and the crusades.
      However you slice it Israel is a Brazilian wax on the western most edge of Asia. And they brainwash their own kids.

    • It was stupid, Keith. Apartheid is dogshit. And they had to destroy their society so the occupation could fly. I don't even think buying off Egypt was a strategic success. The embassy was surrounded in 2011.
      1967 proved that Palestine was the wrong site for the project. And they are still whining about legitimacy.

    • The 67 war only made sense if the Palestinians all left. Last time I looked they hadn't.
      The other thing is that the roots of 67 go back to 56 if not earlier. Egypt has been ruled by a junta since 1956 because of Israel. Ignore Morsi.
      Egypt is now a failing state. IsraeL will be hit with the aftershocks.
      Violence is not "good for the Jews". Yes, it is possible but it generates awful long term consequences . I would have stuck with the singing and the dancing .

    • What matters about 1967 is what sort of precedent it created. Every Israeli martial démarche is similar in this respect. Israel has been trying to reshape the rules of war for some time. Behind all the warmongering is the assumption that Israel will always have the qualitative edge and America''s back. Forever is very long.
      And when the 2 conditions no longer pertain what sort of protection will Yossi Israeli have? SFA.
      The other thing is that the Zionists built their shangri-la on an invasion route. This is the real reason behind 1967. Israel is literally indefensible.

    • Most Egyptians despise Israel as was richly demonstrated in 2011 after the collapse of the Mubarak junta when the Cairo embassy was surrounded. All the neighbours hate Israel, the fruits of 70 or so years of Israeli regional diplomacy. I don't think the war was a success .

    • I can't retrieve it right now but an officer was quoted in Ha'aretz a while ago. He used to think that there was an order to things but he realised that armies exist to fight even if there is no rationale . And that is what the IDF does. It runs an occupation and the occasional turkey shoot rather than do the rational thing , downsize and move Israel away from paranoia.

    • Israel's only enemy is itself.

    • The ironic thing is that the decision to occupy the 22% is now an existential threat to the future of Israel.

  • Through 'severe pressure,' U.S. can impose a two-state solution on Israel -- Nathan Thrall
    • Empires lasted much longer in the past. The Byzantines got 12 centuries. The British got 2. America has just finished. 76years

    • And Israelis who think the Occupation is foreva have false hope. Hatikva is a nightmare

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