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Maghlawatan

There are all sorts of things that never make it in to the discourse Judaism is not hatred. It's Mensches versus Cossacks. I am with the Mensches. Fairuz is a Mensch. So are the people in Gaza, Hass, Gideon Levy, Yasmin Levy, Gurvitz, Zochrot, Btselem. The only Sabras who have managed to escape the suffocating Groupthink of Zionism are those who had parents who could see what was happening. We have to get Jews back to Menschkeit. The religion didn't survive this long by being asshole focused. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/israeli-mk-gets-a-taste-of-palestinian-humiliation-at-qalandiyah-checkpoint.premium-1.516933 "And he is scared," wrote Kol, who has helped advance bills in the fields of children's rights, violence against children, health and education. "I am scared. I am scared that we will continue living like this. And that fear scares me." http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/brzezinski-the-syria-crisis-8636 But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream. In the corners there is light That is good for you And behind you, I have warned you, There are awful things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BC1qbEjhDU

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  • Through 'severe pressure,' U.S. can impose a two-state solution on Israel -- Nathan Thrall
    • The idea that Palestinians missed the history bus because Israelis are smarter is laughable. David Schumer was the one who said Israel is the cousin with the Heroin problem. IF it can't continue any longer it won't.

    • The occupation is not in the long term interest of Israelis . It is hard to do anything against the occupation. These are the 2 contrasting forces. Israelis assume everything will be fine. They won't if the occupation continues.

      One of the thing most analysts miss is political attention. Israel throws everything into the occupation at the expense of other issues. The economy is in serious trouble. The Haredi birth rate is out of control. Education is crap.
      These issues are the political equivalent of rust.
      The general consensus is that the Americans have to DO something. I think Israel will collapse all by itself. Some crisis will emerge that puts unbearable pressure on because all the years of jerking off over Hevron and Beit El left the institutions in a weakened state. 1967 left Israel taking risks it cannot afford.

      The lamentations of Jeremiah cover the period after the first Temple was destroyed. Why did it happen? Group think, baby. And geopolitics.

      https://youtu.be/yNAFeCLDSgE

  • Why has the Occupation lasted this long?
    • The occupation is quite kooky. Named after rabbi Kook. It is also pretty Stupid, named after Rabbi Mendel WTF . The key institutions of Israel were taken over by ideologues. It was like what Lenny Bruce said when asked why the Jews killed Jesus. A little pahty that got out of hand, you know.

  • If it weren't for our hubris we could learn so much
    • Lovely piece. Such a tragedy that the only way the Zionists could see to make the project work was to dehumanise the locals. It goes against what Judaism is about and will break Israel. Israelis support forces that do not work in their long term interest.

    • I even saw dovecotes in the bit of Cairo where the rubbish collectors live. The zabaliyeen.

  • Diaspora Jews go to Palestine to fight the occupation
    • Or desperate

    • Settler colonialism results in the development of a separate culture in large part because of the associated violence but also because of distance. Australia is not English. Israel is not Jewish. It's Israeli.

      Jewish kids in the US share very little in common with Israeli kids.

  • Palestinian hunger strike ends with prisoners declaring victory – but Israel claims nothing happened
    • Israel has given life to many of the characters from Jewish history. The tyrant from the Purim story. Moloch the child killer. Goliath the moron.

  • If Trump is serious we may be seeing the most significant step in 20 years of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations
    • Kaisa,

      A lot of religious in Israel think God cares. It is a macabre link up of the Holocaust and 1967 as if the Holocaust made 1967 possible.

      Another problem is 1948. They never dealt with it. They just decided to plough on as if the Palestinians never existed.

      And the ur Problem is the Holocaust. They never dealt with that either. They just took the money from the Germans and decided Gaza was Satan.

      I read an interesting set of therapy principles a while ago that also apply to Israel :

      -Resolve alone won't get results
      - You will make the same mistake over and over.
      -Personal and professional are linked
      -Ignoring your emotions is pointless

      It is SUCH a car crash.

    • Echi

      I think the fundis are an obvious tail risk given the birth rate and ignorance but I don't have much time for Yossi secular either.I just don't think Israel is sustainable. 1967 was ridiculous. The economy is not growing. The settlements are a joke. And nobody can stop the car crash. Plus the kids are brainwashed .

    • Japanese knotweed is banned in several countries.

      Catalan should move to Israel if it means so much to him. Live the fantasy . Join the fruitcakes

    • Trump is a fraud, like Zionism. Power worship and narcissism in the service of shafting people. They deserve each other.

      http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/06/22/trump-presidency-in-peril/

    • I think the swamp is running the US while Trump tweets and eats chocolate.

    • The Haredim are stupid. They leave school at 18 with reading ages of 11. This is a system issue. Haredi leaders want sheep.

      And the birth rate should keep Catalan awake at night.
      They are the Japanese knotweed of Zionism. They are essentially unemployable.
      And there is no such thing as a free lunch.

      I think Gd has had enough of Jewish groupthink and golden calf worship AGAIN. She hates it when the people stray. She seems to be working through haredi women this time.

    • Israel can't afford a deal. There are 500,000 settlers in Area C. The Israeli economy is stagnating. The longer the occupation goes on the more Israel is trapped. Imagine what they could have done with all the money they wasted on the settlers. They could have built a decent society .

    • Trump's attention span is very short

  • March of the Zealots: a report from 'Jerusalem Day'
    • The past is never over

    • The Jewish thing about only belonging if your mother was Jewish has been the source of much of the strategic crap the community has endured over the centuries. Do you want identity or power/stability? The instability reinforces identity.

      2 big phenomena from antiquity stand out for me. The first is losing the Temple twice. Because there weren't enough people. Because your mother had to be Jewish. It meant the great power games were out of limits. Except during lulls in the great power game such as a drought in Egypt. Great powers don't care who your mother was. Because it's not relevant.

      The second thing was Masada. When the zealots followed their logic to the bitter end and killed themselves en masse. Because there is no purity like Jewish purity. (Unless you are Druze or Alawi) Never was. Because you can only be Jewish if your mother was ....

      And so to Jerusalem Day 2017. There is a hole in the bucket....

      It is absolutely fascinating. They just can't handle power. Never could . Because the gene pool is too small. And without new blood there is a high chance the morons take over.

      But the history is so rich...

  • In groundbreaking resolution, California Democratic Party decries US support for Israeli occupation
    • 1 in 5 Americans over age 65 have none of their teeth left. Yet it is deemed important to fund Israel unconditionally. Israel is a 1% issue that does not benefit the 99%. Great leverage potential. When it all collapses it will be a great day.

    • Peace will happen when the Israeli economy collapses and the Mizrahi realise they are on the same side as the Palestinians. American Jews have nothing to say if they don't want to live in Shangri-la. And who would, honestly?

    • I don't hate Jews. It is impossible to travel in Eastern Europe without a sense of loss.
      It is impossible to hear an Israeli talking about Gaza without thinking how completely Hitler won. Hitler knocked Judaism unconscious . Zionism will kill it off. The mitzvot are pointless when Jews are indoctrinated to hate. And they don't have enemies. Other than their leaders.

  • Triumphalist light show in Jerusalem weaponizes the city walls to celebrate 50th anniversary of Jewish conquest
    • Israeli archaeologists dug through 15 layers of Palestinian and Byzantine history which had to be dumped before they found a perfectly preserved gefilte fish which proved that Lithuanian fish came originally from The holy land and not a deli in New York as originally believed.

  • Baby 'Aya' is only 2 months old, and she’s already a victim of home demolition
  • From 'Avalon' to Madoff: What 'The Wizard of Lies' reveals about contemporary American Jewish identity
    • Both of his sons are dead. What a sad life.
      It is a very delicate subject, money and the community. It usually ends messily. There is no happy ending to debt bubbles either.

  • Liberal Jews stage sit-in to block annual 'Jerusalem Day' march into Muslim Quarter
    • I agree they are not normal but on the settler colonial scale they are closer to equilibrium than Israel. The US is settler colonial and still has signs of it such as gun availability. Northern Ireland has 400 years of settler history. Israel has 70. A lot of Israeli culture is made up. Eg history taught in schools.
      Unionist kids are educated rather than brainwashed. They can hold down jobs in normal countries.
      Israel is a mess.

    • Northern Ireland Protestant culture belongs to a wider reality. Zionism is makey uppy. If Palestinians have rights Israelis lose their identity.

  • Trump may want a deal, but Israeli Jews are not interested
    • Haredim are fine as individuals but the group is nuts. Ben Gurion decided to sponsor them because they were a small group in the early 50s but now there is a Fibonacci rabbit issue that Israel can't afford.

    • Echinoccus I of course mean normal by Israeli standards. Israelis are great as long as they don't talk.

    • Phil, when you were talking to the various Israeli goons mouthing the memes of apartheid did your mind wander to Hannah Arendt and her prediction of what the insanity of Zionism would mean for the dynamics of Jewish life in Israel versus the diaspora ?

    • Secular Israelis arent producing enough kids to offset the growth in the Haredi and settler populations. This is why there are so few normal people in the Israeli government.

    • One of the things about politics is the assumption of stability. Netanyahu believes Israel is stable. Most Israelis do. The cost of the settlement.project increases at 9% per year. The Israeli economy is stagnating.
      Israelis may have gone over to the dark side en masse but they don't understand economics. And every thing they do to the Palestinians is kosher and may be visited on them at some point. Ignorance is very expensive

  • PLO source denies Abbas plans to propose large land swap deal during Trump visit
    • The jinns are working hard for the collapse of the Israeli economy. I believe Israeli groupthink is a project of the jinns. Ma sha Allah.

    • Because their standard of living depends on apartheid. Peace would result in losses.

    • 'Abbas should go for broke and tell Trump he'll swap the 22% including the Kotel and Hebron and the settlements for the 78%. The 22%:is easier to defend and has all the Jewish mystical stuff. It's a bargain.

  • A tale of two cities
    • They don't know who they are. This is why they hate groups such as Zochrot who challenge the narrative. You can't set up a country from nothing. I think this also explains how they treat the Palestinians. They are afraid that peace would destroy their identity.

    • There is no continuity between the Jewish past and 1948 Israel. The vacuum has been filled by bullshit. Zionists literally cannot tolerate alternative narratives. Take away hasbara and there is a void.

  • Hunger Strike: The reclamation of the Palestinian body
  • The US and Israel: 'An integrated political system'
    • Tourism is around 6% of GDP. It can't compensate for the number of ignorant haredim joining the Shatnez industry every year.

    • @Mhughes

      The IMF has been having difficulty with projections recently. It has been predicting 3% growth for the US for a few years and the country can't do better than 2% because of structural issues . Even the Fed (the US central bank) is struggling . It has models that consistently predict 3%. The most recent measure turned out to be 0.7%. The models don't include the impact of debt.
      Israel has one of the most neoliberal economies in the world which means the richest 1% control most of the wealth. When this happens ordinary people don't have as much money to spend to drive growth. The UK is in a similar boat BTW. The Tories are similar to Likud. They made their own reality in the.80s. They are struggling to impose it now.

      The 2 defining moments in ancient Jewish history involved the destruction of the Temple. Both followed economic crashes.

    • I looked at sales of sun tan lotion in Ashkenazi areas of Israel as well. Tsk Tsk. The fraud is revealed.

    • Economic growth last year was less than population growth, Habibi. YESHA grows at 9% per year meanwhile. Neoliberalism is dying. I presume G-d will pay for everything. LOLZ

      PS I know this is hard for history teachers

    • There is a photo at this link of Israeli goons arresting a Palestinian kid. The kid is obviously Palestinian. You can tell by his skin tone and the eyes. The goons are as pale as snow. And the goons have what link to the Middle East exactly ?

      http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.790526

    • If you took away the lobby would Israel be of interest to the US? I doubt it. Israel is poor at strategy and becoming poorer economically. It is too paranoid to be a useful ally and cannot be relied on. It's not a member of the 5 eyes intelligence grouping, for example .
      The US is due a new economic system. When it emerges the US won't need pointless middle eastern wars as much. And the billionaire class will be deflated. Israel is overexposed to neoliberalism. And most people in DC privately hate it. Joe Kennedy called Zionists ambitious, vindictive and self pitying.

  • Memo to Trump: US won't escape Mideast wars till Israel ends oppression of Palestinians
    • Israel's economy is stagnating. Trade with the neighbours is risible. And the YESHA settlement parasite grows at 9% per year. Some tough decisions ahead.

    • Nihilism is

      A) Not Jewish
      B) Not sustainable

      The level of popular hatred required to run apartheid is not controllable.

    • It will come to a point where Israel is forced to choose and find it has run out of choices. It is very hard to change the dynamic of a system in progress. The irony is that Judaism is a decent manual for how to operate but that the lure of violence was more attractive to Zionism. You can't fix stupid.

    • 1967 via Haaretz
      Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin declared that if Israel did not strike the first blow, “There would be grave danger to Israel’s existence and the war will be difficult, painful and with multiple casualties.”

      Israel chose a longer suicide.
      It is ironic that the Jewish state works for Moloch. In certain light it is hilarious . All those iterations. All that wasted effort..

  • Internet 'redresses' Miri Regev's 'capture of Jerusalem' themed gown at Cannes
    • Echinoccus

      It doesn't have a popular base. How many Americans are interested in the kashrut rules or the latest rulings on mikvah use, to the nearest 10 million?

      How many Americans feel guilty about the cowardice of the organised Jewish community during WW2?

    • Echinoccus, HabibI

      Zionism is not NASCAR. It doesn't have a popular base in the US. It has influence.
      That is not the same thing.
      Zionism is not of the people. That is why it has dual loyalty. It doesn't belong like rednecks belong.
      Zionism is a murderous pilot fish.
      Maybe it will successfully wend its way through the corridors of US power for the next 50 years while Israeli society moves over to the far side. Maybe the 16 families who own Israel are interested in stability and will act coherently. Perhaps neglecting education and the needs of the Haredi population are not important. But I doubt it.

    • Echinoccus
      The US doesnt have to sink for Zionism to fail.
      Zionism is an updated version of Tammany Hall. That collapsed after WW2 when the politics changed from elite chess to something for everyone. Zionists are heavily exposed to neoliberalism which is dying. Goldman Sachs can't even generate 10% return on capital. The next demagogue after Trump could decide to target rich Zionists in the name of the red states. That would leave Zionism as a parasite without a host.

    • Echinoccus

      If you are waiting for the US to do the decent thing, forget it. The Orthodox/Haredi/settler combo will break the Israeli economy. Productivity is already stagnant. There are too many freeloaders.

    • Echinoccus

      The "it was always rancid" analysis is too simplistic and misses out on the dynamics that wIll probably sink Israel. Israel in the 50s had just been through a brutal war of conquest but still had the potential to be something different.
      The key social influences were Ashkenazi. The Orthodox and Ultra Orthodox influence was small.
      1967 gave rise to Messianism. In 1977 the Mizrahi took over. They are the majority.
      Groups go bad. One of the key dynamics in Israel is the increasing demographic weight of the Orthodox and ultraorthodox. More and more uneducated people who are easy prey for manipulators.

      If you follow the brain development of heinous criminals there is a process that ends with a point of no return when the person becomes a fully fledged psychopath or whatever. They aren't born as such. Trauma and other influences iterate to the point. IsraelI society has gone through a similar process. It still had potential in 1955. It doesn't now.

    • The yishuv leaders were sociopaths but the people were mostly not. 50 years of indoctrination have dejudaized most Israeli Jews to the point where people like Shaked get elected.

    • Hamas is a distraction. God will work via the Haredi birth rate. Haredi ignorance will do the rest. YESHA is growing at 9% per year. The Israeli economy is stagnant. The Haredi population is growing fast. All hamas has to do is get the popcorn in

    • Lieberman, Shaked, Bennett and Regev are proof that 50 years of miseducation and hatred can destroy any system of ethics. There is a very thin line between civilisation and barbarity.

    • "There was no other place to go,” Friedman responded.

      Yes, there was. Masada. End station for lunatic Jewish cults such as Zionism.

    • Regev and Bennett are rabid. Judaism doesnt seem to have produced such pathetic leaders in the past.

  • US diplomats say Western Wall is in West Bank, and Nikki Haley backpedals
    • Yonah, "never a dialog with you". And you didn't answer. Please explain.

    • Kaisa I think it was after 1967. The French built Israel''s nuclear reactor early 60's. 1967 was a miracle in the eyes of many Orthodox . US support for Israel subsequently was tied up with the cold war. The 1973 Arab Israeli war was US/Israel v Soviet Union/Egypt/Syria. When the cold war ended Israel was forced to start the peace process.

    • Yonah. 1977 was the most important switch in Israel imo. The Mizrahi working class took over. Likud was the Israeli version of patriotic law and order but with a land fetish. I like Leibowitz too but there has never been a party in power to implement his ideas. Political power in ordinary time is about system maintenance and in Israel the system is the occupation.

      There were moments when it looked like another view would prevail but I think Likud provided the beat for the last 40 years. They could always ratchet up the fear. Netanyahu basically owned the last 20 years. Today's Israel is a reflection of his Weltanschauung.

      Sure the intifada shocked Israelis. They thought they could have a cost free occupation. After 1987 they intensified settlement. The core logic of the occupation is that it will work out. That Palestinians don't count. That the Palestinians will leave.

      Israeli society is built around the needs of the occupation. Education. Army service. Media. Social funding.
      Sometimes societies decide to commit suicide.

      When it collapses I think people will look back to 1977 as an important fork in the road. The old Ashkenazi elite would not have produced a politician like Ayelet. I would love to be able to. talk to someone like Dayan about what is happening now.

      I guess Judaism has all the insight required to run a country. The only thing missing is how to use violence coherently to get what you want.

      https://youtu.be/Qijs_0IQ-DM

    • The late 70s/early 80s featured the emergence of a new kind of fuck you politics exemplified by the GOP in the US, Likud in Israel and Tories in the UK. FeaTuring monetarism and mould breaking in an attempt to.fashion a different reality. The settlement project is typical Likud for example. Bullshit plus power plus money. Haley comes from some where similar intellectually. If you say it enough times it is true.

  • DC and Jerusalem reel over Trump disclosure of ISIS plan to-- hush!-- put laptop bombs on planes
    • McGovern's logic is based around the argument that there is no evidence. Fox repeat this point 24/7.

      The US does need structural change . But the guy who installed a red diet Coke button in the Oval Office is not the savior.

      And for a guy who wanted to drain the swamp what is with all of the Goldman Sachs people in the White House ?

  • Collective post-traumatic stress disorder – Jews, apartheid and oppression
    • Israeli babies are born normal. The hatred they carry as older people is manufactured by the educational system, the media and the army. It is an institutional problem. The Israeli economy is run for the benefit of 16 families. They like a scared population too.

    • American Jews don't have the PTSD that characterises Israeli Jews. I think the Holocaust is a huge influence and that the institutions of Israel feed off trauma. IDF indoctrination is about us versus them. Israel has developed no links with neighbouring countries, fostering a sense of isolation. The psychology of Israel is fascinating. Fear is the raison d'etre of the IDF. If Israel was normal it wouldn't need such a big army.

  • 'Bakr boys' cousin shot and killed by Israeli forces while fishing off Gaza coast
    • I was watching a video about the end of WWT. The British occupiers of Germany ran courses on democracy and the rule of law. One man who had been in the SS realised it was the first time in 12 years he had been treated with dignity and respect.
      Another German was taken prisoner during the war and sent to a prison in Scotland. When the war was over he stayed on and was stunned by the kindness of the locals. When he died recently he donated his estate to the village.
      The Nazis ran a nihilistic system. So does Israel. Judaism is about compassion and justice.

  • Israel tutors its children in fear and loathing
    • Such a contrast to Jewish camps for kids in the US.
      Israel.is a reflection.of the authoritarian countries most Israeli Jews can trace their families back to. Because there was no stable host population to absorb the new Israelis (it had been ethnically cleansed) Israel was guaranteed to destabilise.

      Compare to the US where ashkénazi immigration from autocratic countries was absorbed by a stable host population.

      US Jewish life is normal. Israel will never be normal.

  • Here we go again! Netanyahu disputes Trump administration, urges him to 'shatter Palestinian fantasy' about Jerusalem
  • Israeli sniper kills unarmed Palestinian protester during demonstration in occupied village of Nabi Saleh
    • I was reading a book about lynching in the US. One Jew was lynched. And it is still noted.
      Compare to all the Palestinians Israel kills. There doesn't need to be a reason.

      Judaism remembers cruelty. Most of the holidays feature bastards from antiquity.

      Israel insists the deaths are one offs, that there is no system. But the oppressed remember.

      Israel.is now one of those mythical bastards.

      Otherwise change the holiday stories. Pharaoh was a strategic genius. Nebuchadnezzar was playing politics.

      And stop whining about the Temple.

  • Ellen DeGeneres gets pushback for promoting Sabra Hummus
  • Pro-Israel group bullies Church of Scotland over its 'sensitive' commemoration of Balfour centenary
    • The period 1890 to.1922 in Ireland was fascinating. In 1910 most Irish were happy with the status quo. By 1918 the cause was lost. Something similar will happen with US support for Israel.

  • Family of 16-year-old Palestinian girl killed by Israeli forces remembers a bright young math student, poet, and politically charged youth
  • Charges against 'Israel Victory Caucus' protest show dissent is being criminalized under Trump
    • Amigo,

      Last year Netanyahu decided that students didn't need to study the core curriculum. It was too hard for Ultra Orthodox students. Their community has the highest birth rate and the lowest employability. Israel needs more workers to.pay for all the freeloaders. Instead it will get more freeloaders. 25 years is generous.

  • Senator on Intelligence Committee says Jews in Diaspora are spies for Israel
    • Berger was very impressive. There is a very noble tradition.of anti Zionism. I used to look at Zionism as unjust but now I see it as a system that has iterated its founding logic to exhaustion and is now out of control. It is a brutal ideology, not just for Palestinians. 43% of the world's Jews are trapped in a lunacy.

    • https://youtu.be/9jjiWS__Mp0

      All the counsellors hate the Palestinians
      And the lake has no water
      And the head coach wants no lefties
      So he reads to us from something called the King's Torah
      Now I don't want this should scare ya'
      But my bunkmate has friends in Kach
      You remember Jeffery Hardy
      They're about to organize a lynching party

  • The 'nation state of the Jewish people' bill is just more Apartheid with a veil
    • The logical next step after 20 years of Netanyahu as PM. He doesn't accept Palestinian rights. He has some kind of psychiatric dis order . He has turned Israel into a cauldron of hate. 43% of the world's Jews live in Israel. Arendt predicted they would move in a different direction to the rest. She was so insightful. Israel is so lost.

  • Jews made America great so 'we deserve our influence' on Israel policy, Dershowitz tells Scarsdale synagogue
    • Jewish supremacism crashes into a wall called ultra Orthodox. Shatnez Inspectors are losers. If you spend 15 years learning by rote that is what happens. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
      There is nothing special about Hebrews. IsraeL is proof they can fuck things up as well as any goys.

    • Anyone who supports Israel because it is nominally Jewish needs to know the full package. Even if you ignore the Palestinian issue the country is odious

      Last year the IDF chief rabbi said rape was kosher in wartime.
      He also believes gay people are sick.
      Last year a rabbi in a haredi town babbed 5 year old girls from bike rides citing immodest
      Orthodox won't allow women to sing alongside men.

      Israel is the worst country in the OECD in which to be a woman. It is a dysfunctional mysogynistic militarised theocracy.

    • Yonah , Dersh's generation were determined to do things differently to their parents generation, the ones who stood by and let the Shoah happen. That is the power Israel has over US Jews. "You didn't watch our back then, so do it now".

      I think Dersh's motivation is decent but that his execution is deplorable. "Fuck you" is not kosher. There is a reason why care and respect for others including foreigners is core to Orthodox thinking. Because it works.

      Israel involves a departure from the tenets of Judaism. IT is not clear that it is a success

    • Dersh and his generation will die and their odious mindset will die with them. He is a very bad advertisement for the Orthodox.

    • There is a very dangerous self congratulatory streak in the community that Dersh represents. "We are great because we are rich". America is hopelessly polarised and life expectancy of white working class men is falling . The economic system was designed to flow cash from the working and middle classes to the rich and it works beautifully. Certain groups have benefited. But now it's dangerous. Dersh should STFU and work on his kavanah. The lesson from 2016 is that people like Bannon will turn on the Jews if politically expedient to do so. If they do I wouldn't expect the leadership to stand up for ordinary Jews either.
      And America is a mess.

  • Why are Israeli children brainwashed to hate?
    • I think both Hajo Meyer and Hedy Epstein have since died. I am always delighted to come across thinking Jews who havent bought into the groupthink of Zionism.

    • Meir Ariel

      At the end of every sentence you say in Hebrew
      Sits an Arab with a shisha

      https://youtu.be/3Tesymr5OpU

      Life is stronger than trauma.

    • Nurit Peled Elhanan wrote a super book about Israeli schoolbooks and how Palestinians are portrayed

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1780765053/

      Zionism is an attempt to control time and space. There is zero continuity either historically or psychologically.
      Israeli Jews are ultra vulnerable to hucksters and charlatans as a result . They do not know who they are.

      Hedy Epstein survived the Shoah and was on a speaking tour with Hajo Meyer a few years ago. "They told me the Palestinians were my enemy". That has to be taught in primary school.

      Because the kids have to join the army and run the occupation. And soldiers can't be allowed think .

      This is why they are brainwashed . In school.

      Philip Larkin was an English poet. One of his lines is "they fuck you up, your Mum and Dad".
      In Israel so do the teachers

  • 'Look, I didn't write that letter' -- Sanders on defensive for signing letter slamming UN on Israel
    • http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/01/for-israels-sake-the-israel-lobby-must-be-held-to-account-paul-craig-roberts/

      "The Lobby’s power is a danger to Israel. The Lobby’s reliance and that of the Zionist government on force majeure alienates the rest of the world, but creates a hubristic sense of invulnerability in Israel itself. The pride that Israeli politicians express in their ability to control US foreign policy and the pride that the Lobby enjoys in its influence over US academic appointments, journalism appointments,and decisions of textbook publishers leads to an arrogance that eventially over reaches. In the meantime Israel is busy at work eliminaing friends whose constructive criticisms are intended to save Israel from a future of woe and misery. The result for Israel will be isolation."

    • It is the power and the money of the lobby

  • A Republican plan for peacemaking: 'break the will' of the Palestinians and force them to 'accept defeat'
    • Between 2014 and 2016 the Israeli economy grew at 2.5% which is less than the population growth rate..Israel has decided :

      -To run an occupation
      -Not to educate Ultra Orthodox
      -To run neoliberalism with extreme levels of inequality.

      Any one of these would be severely damaging. The 3 together will be lethal

      Ma sha Allah

    • A 2016 Bank of Israel report on the ultra Orthodox and the labour force found that despite spending an average 17 years in education the ultra Orthodox only have skills equivalent to TEN YEARS in school. By 2035 Israel will have 13 million people. Around 30% of the workforce will be useless. The largest collection of Shatnez inspectors in the world.

      Boy, boy , boy did the GOP pick the wrong horse

      https://youtu.be/Od6nOg3LpT0

    • Breaking the will of the Palestinians won't work. By defining people as trash Israel gives them an identity. This is er the lesson of Jewish history but of course it doesn't apply to Palestinians.
      Israel is hopeless. They should have stuck speaking Yiddish. A very practical language.

    • They are comical. If Israel is winning why the lobby, why the hasbara? Israel is lost

    • Palestinians are patient. They will wait. Zionism will collapse under the weight of its own hypocrisy.....

      Mar 19 2016

      "Member of Turkey's Ruling Party Faces Dismissal for Wishing Israeli Attack Victims 'Were All Dead'

                'Assurances have been made that action will be taken against this woman,' Netanyahu says. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned the "outrageous" tweet on Saturday. Speaking to reporters at the Foreign Ministry's situation room, Netanyahu said that he had received assurances, presumably by Turkish officials, that action would be taken against the woman. "

      read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.709761

         
      Haaretz    Mar 13, 2016 10:28 PM

      "Chief rabbi tells soldiers to kill Assailants, Not Worry About Court or Chief of Staff

            If a terrorist knows he won’t return alive, that will deter them, Sephardi Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef says, adds that it's a mitzvah to kill assailants."

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.708648

    • This concept of the Palestinians losing is interesting. Israel has the weaponry but it is what it has to do to its society to absorb the occupation that makes me wonder who is winning.
      Kids are brainwashed. Jewish values have been abandoned. The country is a pariah.

    • Neither the GOP nor the lobbyists in outfits like AIPAC are interested in the welfare of Yossi and Yossita Israeli. It is just a game for sociopaths.
      Israel is in danger and the game continues in DC.

    • Which Jewish holiday does this story remind you of? And which ancient despot and enemy of the Jews does the GOP most resemble ?

      Israel is so odious as to be laughable.

    • Israel is out of control

      Meanwhile French Jews helped neuter Le Pen.

      http://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/world-news/europe/.premium-1.787857

      But Zionism is worse than the Front National. Israel is no longer presentable. And nobody does anything.

    • Who is responsible for this car crash? The Parsis? The Is mailis? I am sick of the Jewish community abdicating responsibility for Israel, the junkie cousin with the violent streak.

    • Waste of time. What makes me laugh is all the Jewish rhetoric about continuity, dignity and defying the odds. The only way to mahe Israel viable is to deny agency to other people. Judaism turns out to be as grubby as any other cult. Whoda thunk it ? Israel can never be a normal country. Paranoiastan.

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