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There are all sorts of things that never make it in to the discourse Judaism is not hatred. So Zionism is not Judaism. It's Mensches versus Cossacks. I am with the Mensches. We have to get Jews back to Menschkeit. The religion didn't survive this long by being asshole focused. "I am scared. I am scared that we will continue living like this. And that fear scares me." "But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream." In the corners there is light That is good for you And behind you, I have warned you, There are awful things

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  • The beautiful game: a history of whitewashing international crimes 
    • I was in Argentina near the Brazilian border a good while ago. I wanted to get some food but I didn't have Spanish . I asked in English, French and German. Nothing.
      Then I tried Arabic. They were from Haifa. Wallahi

      Loads of Palestinians in South America. The sha'ab.

  • Literary hero Yossi Klein Halevi says anti-Zionist Jews aren't Jewish
    • They fetishise the land

    • Saying anti Zionist Jews are not Jewish is like Roland Freisler ranting in 19 43 that anti Nazis were not German. Nazism died. Germany did not.
      Zionism will collapse. Judaism won't. Hillel will still be there...

    • “Just as the Judaic tradition had formerly told Jews what it meant to be Jewish – had supplied them with a considerable definition of their identity – so does Zionism in the modern age. Jews who lost hold of the mythic structures of the past were given a grasp on a new myth, one composed of the restructured remnants of the old one.” “Judt’s Zionist teachers…would have said: “Even if the gentiles like you and treat you as one of their own, you will not like yourself. Indeed you will like yourself even less for just that reason.” As a result, you turn to a paranoid kind of Jewishness, living vicariously, as it were, with the ghosts of Nazi mass murder and the specters of Arab terror”

      Zionism is fear based.
      Fear is the glue.

      Hillel lived in Babylon at a non paranoid time. He couldn't have been a Zionist
      Hillel would say: Do not separate yourself from the community. Do not believe in yourself until the day you die. Do not judge your fellow until you have stood in his place. Do not say something that is not readily understood in the belief that it will ultimately be understood [or: Do not say something that ought not to be heard even in the strictest confidence, for ultimately it will be heard]. And do not say "When I free myself of my concerns, I will study,'' for perhaps you will never free yourself.

    • Keith

      Jewish religious culture has a lot of world experience , as you would expect

      Hillel the Elder saw a corpse floating in water and declared
      6. "You were drowned because you drowned others. Those who drowned you will themselves be drowned” (Pirkei Avot 2:6).
      10. There are four types of people: One who says, "What is mine is yours, and what is yours is mine" is a boor. One who says "What is mine is mine, and what is yours is yours" — this is a median characteristic; others say that this is the character of a Sodomite. One who says, "What is mine is yours, and what is yours is yours" is a chassid (pious person). And one who says "What is mine is mine, and what is yours is mine" is wicked.(Pirkei Avot 5:10).

    • Annie, Israelis do not have an identity outside Zionism. This is one of the reasons they are so vicious about the Nakba. The Nakba ridicules a core pillar of Israeli identity. The just war that is over.
      Israeli identity is slowly falling apart in the face of reality and Israel has no answers

    • Keith

      Organisations with zero toleration fror dissent , constructive criticism or new ideas do not survive

      In the 1800s or whenever there was a reorganisation into Reform, Conservative and Orthodox. Even Orthodox changed over time.

      Being honest and open is how things change.
      Zionism is a cult where honesty is an existential threat.

      Halevi Klein is pathetic. If you don't support death squads you can't be Jewish. Why isn't he ridiculed for this bs?

    • How did Judaism historically deal with dissent ?
      Zionism is puerile. Expelling dissenters won't stop the Götterdämmerung.

  • 'New York Times' teams up with Israel to smear slain medic Razzan al-Najjar as 'complex,' not innocent
    • The NYT fought its demons. Then it joined them.

    • The NYT always fights for the Palestinians

      The NYT fought slavery in 1865. The NYT did not fight with Israel who wore the confederate uniform.

      The NYT fought Nazism in 1944. The NYT did not fight with Israel who wore the swastika

      The NYT fought for civil rights in 1968. The NYT did not fight with Israel who lived as a police dog in Alabama.

      The NYT fought apartheid in 1985. The NYT did not fight with Israel who was a South African policewoman.

      The NYT always fights with the Palestinians whether they are slaves, Jim Crow non citizens or victims of totalitarianism. It doesnt matter what uniform Isrsel wears.

      There is only one exception. When Israel wears the Star of David.

      The NYT is in a hopeless place

  • 'I'm targeted by the Israeli army,' Razan al-Najjar said before she was killed
    • Zionism won't make it. The collapse of neoliberalism will destroy elite Jewish wealth. Israel is already a pariah.

    • She reminds me of Sophie Scholl, the German dissident who was murdered by the Nazis. She too saw the madness of the system and wanted to stop it but was murdered by goons and did not live to see the system collapse.

  • Israeli army frames slain medic Razan al-Najjar as 'Hamas human shield'
    • How Zionists see themselves: as the light
      When did the darkness win ?
      Jonathan Sacks, a former chief rabbi, said Turgel was “one of the most remarkable Holocaust survivors I had the privilege to know”.

      He said: “She was a blessing and inspiration to our community. Her work to educate generations about the horrors of the Holocaust was as powerful as it was tireless. Throughout her life, she lit countless candles in the human heart and helped bring much light to the world.”

    • The IDF is like Comical Ali, the hapless Iraqi Defence minister who couldn't stop lying either.

    • Israel is addicted to murder. It cannot stop. And it is losing support internationally. The end has already begun.
      A bit of Diggers- always classier than anything out of Israel

  • 'Israel has no choice' -- 'NY Times' columnists largely line up behind Gaza massacre
    • The NYT prides itself on its progressive stances against wrong. It was Abolitionist during the Civil War. It was anti Nazi in the 40s. It was anti Tammany Hall in the 50s.It was pro Civil Rights in the 60s.

      It is pro apartheid today. WTF.

    • Rosner reminds me of the Nazi propaganda videos about Theresienstadt

      Aunt Lydia reminds me of the Magdalene laundries in Ireland

  • Argentinian soccer team boycotts Israel -- and 'NY Times' whitewash fails to quote a single player
  • Jewish Israeli activists call for Palestinian right of return, hang portraits of protesters murdered in Gaza on Apartheid Wall
  • Israeli lawmakers kill 'equality for all citizens' bill before it is even introduced
    • I think the typical goy view of Israel has deteriorated not insignificantly since 2015.
      I used to think Israel was ruthless and unstoppable.
      Now I think it is incompetent.

    • This is another idea that prolly makes perfect sense in Hebrew but has all the class of the vilest racism in English.

      Israelis do not understand how the goys see all of this shit .

    • In their Hebrew bubble they are so complacent

      Netanyahi decide there would never be peace over 40 years ago. That means forever.
      People all over the world are sick of the bullshit

      "A great majority of the time, for most of the Jews here, the Palestinian suffering is completely denied. When it is not documented on video it interests almost no one, and when it is documented it is repressed as a conspiracy. What significance is there to the display of mutual responsibility of these days if when they see the Palestinian baby who survived a premature birth and a car accident, but did not survive a live bullet fired at his upper body, in light of the documentation of his death we do not become angry and give our hearts out to him and his family; and instead we ask with estranged cynicism and in arrogant contempt: “Why don’t they show us what happened earlier?”

      Yeshayahu Leibowitz understood this already 60 years ago, when he wrote in his seminal essay “After Kibiyeh” (collected in “Judaism, Human Values, and the Jewish State,” edited by Eliezer Goldman, Harvard University Press 1995) of “the fear of losing religous-moral supremacy, which is easy to hold on to when there is no risk to it and difficult under other circumstances.”
      Less than six years after the creation of a sovereign state with a powerful army, Leibowitz wrote that the “real religious and moral meaning of our political rebirth and the return to our hands of the use of force” would be a severe test for Jews who were too accustomed to being victims. “Can we prove capable not only of suffering for these values we exalted, but also acting upon them?” he asked. “It’s easy to suffer, physically and materially for values, even to sacrifice our lives: that necessitates only physical courage which exists in surprising quantities among all human gatherings. It’s difficult to suffer for values, when this suffering means also giving up things which are also seen as values.”
      In the decades after 1967, Leibowitz would be excoriated by the right wing for his fierce criticism of the occupation which he, perhaps inexcusably, described as “Judeo-Nazi.” But he was speaking as a fervent Zionist who was one of the first to see how the success of Zionism meant we had to realize we were no longer victims and that victory came with a moral price. It was “the great test we are faced with by national liberation, political independence and sovereign power — as a nation, a society and a culture which for generations had the privilege of mental and spiritual enjoyment in exile, foreign-rule and self-impotence.” "

  • Israeli army says the killing of Palestinian medic Razan al-Najjar was 'just an accident'
    • I have seen enough pictures of Israelis in plastic chairs watching Gaza having the shit bombed out of it to know that the Israeli army does not give a rat's ass about Gazan life.
      "I felt there was a lot of thirst for blood," one soldier is quoted as saying. "This is the beauty of Gaza. You see a person walking down a street or path; he does not have to be with a weapon. You just have to see him with something, and you shoot him."
      He also described an incident in which a platoon commander ordered the shooting of a woman who was crossing a street close to a house used by Israeli forces: "Suspicious, not suspicious, I don't know her story. what he did in the end was get the men on the roof and take her out. From that story, I felt it was cold-blooded murder."

    • Rachel Corrie wasnt intentional either. Neither was Tom Hurndall. In reality anyone who helps Gaza is a valid Israeli target . Pour encourager les autres.

  • Democratic leaders grow fearful that Israel will divide the party
    • Should read "Democratic leaders grow fearful that voters will question elite support for gonorrhea"

    • "Jewish State " as in" look at the state of those Jews."
      Israel is A Jewish State rather than THE Jewish state. You can be Jewish without being a vicious ass hole.

    • Israel's reps are paranoid and cruel bastards. Lieberman, Bennett, Netanyahu, Danon. They are so easy to hate . Israel is the bad guys. Jabotinsky wanted this. It is counterproductive.

    • Israel is for losers

    • Imagine a focused group of say 7 million people using projection to influence DC and bend Congress to its will. Focused on a single issue. Washington State builds a network of lobbyists and lobbies relentlessly for pork barrel projects for the State. It becomes more efficient than anyone bar the NRA. It infiltrates the upper echelons of the 2 parties. The Governor is invited to speak to Congress and gets 14 standard ovations. Lobbyists successfully lobby for war against British Columbia. This has been going on for 50 years. Even when budgets are being cut Washington state gets its entitlements. It runs a system of fear, bullying senators and journalists.
      Does it last? Of course it doesn't.  Mean reversion is a bitch.

    • Israel has no friends

      "The Israeli embassy is sad to announce the suspension of the match between the Israel and Argentina national teams scheduled for Saturday June 9, as a warm-up for the Russia World Cup," the statement reads. 

      "The friendship between Argentina and Israel, which will soon celebrate its 70th anniversary, is not about a football match. The democratic country and plural state (composed of Jews, Muslims and Christians), will always eagerly await the chance to receive one of the stars of Argentine sport."

      Argentina forward Gonzalo Higuain also backed the news, claiming that the well-being of the players must be the first priority. 

      "I think that in the end the right thing was done," he told ESPN. "It's now behind us, obviously our health and common sense comes first. We think the right thing to do was not to go."

      Argentina's next match is now slated to be their opener of World Cup Group D play against Iceland on June 16. 


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      A sports boycott looks possible now

    • "Democratic leaders grow fearful that Israel will divide "the party"

      If the voters develop their thinking on a subject to drive positive change what is the problem? Didn't it happen on Civil Rights?
      The problem is the "donors".
      The people and the donors are no longer aligned.

      This was when Tammany Hall died. When the light came in through a tiny crack.
      This is Dorian Israel's terrible secret. The mirror.

      So I think the headline should read

      "Democratic leaders grow fearful that Israel will divide the money, leading to light entering the Augean stables."

    • The Dems are a coalition of minorities until they figure out a way to win back Trump's blue collar support in places like Ohio and Wisconsin. Long term the white vote is going to decline and the Latino vote to increase.
      Latinos and African americans have SFA interest in Jewish nihilism.
      Sorry, Yossi.

  • 'I’m an Islamophobe' and 'Arabs lie' – former chief of Israeli Government Press Office
    • The thing about "lying Palestinians" is how Orientalist it is. Israelis are the sophisticated ones, even though they brainwash their kids. Palestinians are backward and stupid. This is how they are portrayed in Israeli textbooks.

      Palestinian society, despite all the oppression, is actually more balanced than Israeli society. It's a funny old world.

    • Israelis lie more than Palestinians. When the Fatah fighters left beirut in 82 Israel promised the women and children would be taken care of. Sabra and Shatila followed.

      When Israel produced its declaration of Independence it said all minorities would be treated as per Jews.

      Deep down Israelis are shit scared of Muslims. I don' know why Israel brutalizes Gaza because in the nightmare Muslim soldiers will do the same to Jews down the line.

      Israel is only understandable through the prism of trauma.

  • How to tell when defending Israel is actually racist
    • Zionism is all about money.

      Nir Barkat spelt it out in a 2011 interview
      at around 2.35

      average income for:
      - a jew in Jerusalem: $16,000
      - a jew in central Israel: $24,000
      - a Palestinian living in Jerusalem: $4,000
      - a West Bank Palestinian: $800

    • If you compare Israel to other situations you get a sense of how messed up it is

    • Keith

      It's all about power. The power to set the limits of debate and to punish those who exceed those limits.
      Racism is a function of power, as is misogyny.

      “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. If there is no struggle, there is no progress. It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. It is not light that we need, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake. I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. People might not get all they work for in this world, but they must certainly work for all they get. No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck.” Frederick Douglass

      I don't think it matters what tactics Palestinians use. Israel is insane.

      Over to Walt :

      "No matter how well-written or delivered, a speech cannot divert who le societies from a well-established course of action. Policies in motion tend to remain in motion; to change the trajectory of a deeply-entrenched set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal momentum. "

      The Palestinians do not have that financial capacity. Ideally the Jewish community should lance the boil but if it won't the outside world will have to bring Zionism down.
      Bourdieu was very good on power and nonsense. Israel is a rich source of this

      One of his aphorisms is that ‘the dominant retain their position by constantly changing their stance’. This leads to all sorts of real world contradictions, so the debate has to be structured is such a way as to ensure the ‘nonsensical aspect’ is concealed. This is traditionally achieved by limiting the scope of the debate, the number of ‘legitimate’ contributors, and shutting down alternative debates by force if necessary.

      No discussion of Israeli power shenanigans is complete without reference to projection.

      "Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to other people."

      Khamas! With thanks to Dickerson

      "In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." F. Nietzsche

    • "Israel destroyed the ecological balance" would be closer to the truth.

    • Defending Israel is ultimately about defending the political economy of Zionism with Jewish income of 20k per head and Palestinian of $300 to $800 per head. That is what the system means. Defending it is sick.

  • 'How do you expect the young to forget?': a visit to Shatila refugee camp
    • In Sabra the bots got the Kata'eb to do their dirty work. In Gaza they do it themselves 24/7

      Aunt Lydia's "mother" on what drives people like her. When you live such a narrow life and use repression to get things done there is trauma in the background

      Hmmm. Very interesting

  • Heralded by Palestinians as 'angel' and 'merciful martyr,' Razan Al-Najjar is an afterthought in western press
    • "No matter how north wants to spin this story there are only two things that are true. 1) her death was tragic but eminently preventable and 2) Hamas bears almost total responsibility for the situation that brought on her death.

      That is delusional.
      The lady was murdered by an Israeli soldier.

      For years Israelis have justified Israeli policy in Gaza by reference to Hamas. Khamas. Khamas Khamas.
      The truth is that Israel shoots to.kill in Gaza.

      People in Europe see the insanity of Zionism.
      "I visited South Africa during the apartheid era and I believe that the Israeli Policies of deprivation and humiliation are as evil, if not more so than those perpetrated by the Boers. And it is frustrating, for those of us who would like to be of some use, to feel that it’s impossible to get the ear of politicians, and governments, and the lamentable UN, to enact some practical expression of support for the forgotten people of Palestine."

      You have lost your humanity, Dabakr

    • Zionism is lies, murder and bullshit.
      You can run a country like that but please don't call it Jewish.
      The reason why the ancient books developed were because they were sustainability guides. Zionism is suicidal.

  • Photo Essay: Gaza buries medic Razan Ashraf Al-Najjar, 21, killed by Israeli sniper
    • It's just a matter of time before the US Media are liberated. Most US journos self censor because of the power of the lobby. Nobody privately respects Israel. Its career suicide to speak out.
      Some day Israel will be poison and journalists will no longer be afraid. . Everything is moving in that direction.

    • Legendary Irish broadcaster Mike Murphy on the evil of the occupation :

      "I visited South Africa during the apartheid era and I believe that the Israeli Policies of deprivation and humiliation are as evil, if not more so than those perpetrated by the Boers. And it is frustrating, for those of us who would like to be of some use, to feel that it’s impossible to get the ear of politicians, and governments, and the lamentable UN, to enact some practical expression of support for the forgotten people of Palestine."


      Israel is dogshit in PR terms. There is a reason why Hillel behaved as he did. Because it works. Zionism does not.

    • Settler colonialism : settlers vs natives from 'stralia

      It is always the same bullshit

  • 'Disappearing Palestine' maps must spotlight Jaffa
    • Roha,

      Zionism was paranoid from the get go.
      In the Galilee when they started to settle early 1900s or whenever the model was homa u migdal which was basically a fort and a fence.

      They never intended to share the land. They always hated the locals.
      It has gone on since day 1.
      They are so disturbed.

      I struggle to find a paranoid empire that survived.

  • Palestinian medic, 21, is killed by Israeli sniper as she tends wounded in Gaza
  • Roseanne Barr talked trash about Palestinians and Muslims for years, without regrets
  • How an anti-Semitic US law helped bring about Israel's creation
    • Boomer

      Israel's slow suicide is a vast subject. I have organised files from 2011-14. Haven't got around to filing 15-now yet. I might put it up online or could share the files.

  • Genesis Prize threw Natalie Portman under the bus to protect Netanyahu
  • Conflicting dreams and realities: Amos Oz in Rochester
    • "Fellow for the Advancement of Jewish Humanities and Culture"
      There is an awful lot of work for him to do in Israel. The IDF could keep him in work for decades

    • "Oz extolled Israel’s lack of civil war. "
      Lissa , habibi
      Not yet

      I have read a few of Oz's books. His Israel doesn't exist any more.
      It was destroyed by the violence unleashed in 1948 that never ever stopped

    • Israel is occupying Gaza. Gaza is part of Eretz Israel hashlemah so there is no border.
      And the siege is illegal. As is mass slaughter of unarmed civilians. But perhaps not in Hebrew.

  • 'No one is happy with 60 killed' -- Ehud Barak comes to redeem Israel
    • I was there at the time. It was a road not taken.

      "If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man
      You win some, lose some, it's all the same to me
      The pleasure is to play, it makes no difference what you say
      I don't share your greed, the only card I need is...
      The Ace of Spades"

      Israel made its bed. Now it must lie in it.

    • Barak is a tragic figure straight out of Lorca or Shakespeare. . He could have ended the conflict and saved Israel. My old arabic teacher says "they are all the same" . They probably are. But Barak had a chance. He didn't have the cojones.

      Likud took over instead . Sharon went walkabout on haram el Sharif and then implemented dystopia. Barak's hopeful Israel is dead. Yossi Israeli is too far gone now.
      Maybe it was shit, EchI. But there was something there. Barak reminds me of a team that reached a major final once and could have won. It didn't. It never will.

      Judaism will also be severely damaged when Israel melts down. Barak could have avoided all of that. Zionism never had a statesman . It does cheap and tacky. Shimon Peres is classy in Israel.

  • Fathi Harb burnt himself to death in Gaza. Will the world notice?
  • Joyless in Zion
    • So perhaps 600k Israeli dead in the next war would be ok by local standards. Do hasbara wallahs ever listen to themselves?

    • "As for claim that Israel is an apartheid state, I think Israel should ban Philip Weiss from entry after his 13 visits. "

      Hillel would be so proud of you, Boris. He was so Fond of fruitcake.

    • I think it's a toxic mixture of trauma, the education system, Hebrew , geographical isolation and natural Jewish "cocooning" that has separated Israelis from the outside world. The occupation and its cruelty make perfect sense in Hebrew.

      I have seen that conversion from nice guy to toad as well. It is easy enough to set Israelis off. Just mention Gaza. I like watching them trying to process their Hebrew thoughts in English. It must be like explaining a nightmare.

    • Catalan

      You have to price tail Risk into your investments and your beloved Israel.
      BDS is part of tail Risk. It is God's way of trying to communicate with her once again lost people. Before she starts smiting.

    • Nobody knew in 1930 how Israel would turn out. There were many thinkers who wanted different things. Some were humanitarian such as Martin Buber. Some were paranoid fascist ass holes like Jabotinsky. The paranoid fascist ass holes won. Hebrew used to be sacred. Now it is paranoid.

      If often think of Amira Hass who said her life's work was pointless. Israelis did not want to listen.

      Nation building is fascinating. So is the collapse of nations.

    • If Phil spoke Hebrew the vox pops would be even juicier with nihilism set to max

    • The fact that there is 90% Jewish approval for what is done to Gaza is like vindication for all the Arab and American diplomats who warned that it would be a cluster fuck in the 40s. Sovereignty is pointless if it means a damaged population.
      Zionism was based on a lie -landowithout a people- and the ends Israel will go to to deny the tRuth are grotesque.
      It is very hard to stop a culture on the path of self destruction.

  • Republican Jewish Coalition emerges as Trump's hub for raising money, and making foreign policy
    • Catalan

      Yossi Israeli and his on message wife Smochita don't like that people decide not to perform in Israel. He thinks there is something Bibi isn't telling him.
      He speaks Hebrew and he has internalised all the memes and he supports Beitar . He spoke to thé commanding officer in his IDF Brigade but the guy told him not to worry, that Moshiach would sort it out. What if the IDF ran out of ammunition like in 2014 and Shakira organised BDS of the resupply. The officer told him to think about Bar Refaeli instead.

    • "It was the Democratic Party political machine that played a major role in controlling New York City and New York State politics and helping immigrants, most notably the Irish, rise up in American politics from the 1790s to the 1960s. It typically controlled Democratic Party nominations and political patronage in Manhattan from the mayoral victory of Fernando Wood in 1854 and used its patronage resources to build a loyal, well-rewarded core of district and precinct leaders; after 1850 the great majority were Irish Catholics."

      La Guardia was elected on an anti Tammany ticket and the organisation was doomed.

      DC today is wall to wall corruption. The Tammany Hall death scene comes in the next act after the economy crashes and the politics change. Politics based on what the people need don't have time for elite corruption.

      History repeats itself. It's hard to imagine today but there will be someone elected on an anti Zionist ticket to deliver the coup De grace too.

      "You stretch for the stars and you know how it feels
      To reach too far, too soon"

    • The Protocols are back. With GOP regime change losers like Bolton. The GOP needs economic growth so the 1% can earn even more money. War is a racket.
      And Jews are supposed to stick together. If the RJC want to blow up Iran everyone must support it, right? Someone used to ask "Is this good for the Jews?". The RJC is not. There is too much downside risk.

      We are living in an insane time.

      My best guess is that
      1 It will fail
      2 They will need a scapegoat
      3 Bannon could be brought in from the wilderness

  • Tom Friedman has advice for Palestinians: Embrace Zionism
    • Rafeef Ziadah describing the inspiration for Shades of Anger :

      We were at York University doing a creative action ...a Zionist came by.. as I was lying on the floor he kicked me right in the gut really hard and said "You deserve to be raped before you have your terrorist children", and that really stuck with me... The only way I could deal with it was to write back my poem and the poem is... I may be angry but what I'm going to produce is your next rebel and you won't be able to stop us.

    • The project to build and run a "Jewish" country has been a failure.
      There is no decent experience there. Proper countries are sustainable. Israel is not.

    • I agree echi. Zionism is not going to change. It is a paranoid ideology and the only support it has internationally is paid for.

    • Naftush, your stuff probably looks great in Hebrew but in English it is paranoid.

    • How can anyone who isn't Jewish approve of what Israel does 24/7 ? How can anyone Jewish approve of brainwashing, torture and state sanctioned execution ?

    • Annie

      Nathan's starting point is that Israel is forever.
      And it isn't .
      Apartheid is doomed.

      Lambchop have a song called "up with people"
      One of the lines is "we are screwing up our lives today"

      Zionism is a car crash.

    • Nathan

      I guess your stuff makes sense in Hebrew. It's delusional in English. Jews can't run apartheid and get away with it, nukes or no nukes.

    • When Friedman writes as a journalist he can be interesting . When he writes as a Zionist he is sub New York Post. He isn't even National Enquirer.
      He is smart enough to know that Zionism faces a grim future . He will not admit it.

    • Very wrong.

  • 'Our stones are stronger than their weapons': thousands in Gaza demonstrate for the ninth straight Friday
    • Israel is on shaky ground since
      A It killed the 2SS
      B Gaza is slowly falling apart

      Most viewers in the West * are decent and expect fairness. * except evangelicals
      Israel is obnoxious and has no solutions.
      More and more people are figuring this out

    • The Israeli system is not stable. It is not mOving in the direction of equilibrium. It cannot reform itself. Self regulation does not work.

      Brzezinski saw the big picture. "But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage "

      BDS is an attempt to stop the insanity before the Wolf arrives.
      There is no upside for Yossi Israeli but there is a chance to save something . Unfortunately Yossi is not interested in damage limitation .

    • Injustice can last for a very long time. The Indian caste system is a good example. But it requires autarchy. The economic system has to be self sustaining.
      Israel is plugged into the global economic system. It imports most of its food and oïl. It is dependent utterly on the US. It couldn't function independently for more than a few weeks.
      So its sick system will not last.

  • They prayed for Gaza's dead. Now it's time to say the mourner's prayer for Zionism
    • Chuckie V


      Replying to @THEsaragilbert

      "Sucks for you guys because the show was actually really good, but @therealroseanne is unhinged and should have stayed OFF twitter. She’s always been a nutjob and now has ruined the legacy of the show forever! SAD"

      Zionists are nutjobs by definition

    • That aspect never gets mentioned.
      The assassination was in 1968, one year after the 6 day war

    • Zionism is as popular as constipation in most parts of the world. Occasionally a celebrity will come along and buy into the cult and may even embrace the settlers. Israel loved it when Roseanne Barr said she supported the madness . She had a new show abn great PR.

    • "Jews defining themselves as a people are in essence preserving their ancient cultural outlook"

      That sounds nice in theory. Nation building doesn't work like that in practice. What is cultural identity? For Israel it had to be invented because there was no one size to fit all.
      It was based on
      -The myths of Masada and the Jewish Kingdoms
      -Opposition to anything Muslim
      -The delusion that the Palestinian peoplr does not exist
      -Absolutes such as hasbara

      The whole thing is a crock of shit. IF you iterated 3000 years of Jewish life through a supercomputer 75 trillion tImes the answer would not be Beitar Jerusalem. Not even close.

      It would be more like a recipe involving schmaltz.

    • Jewish ethics boil down to one simple idea. Don't be an ass hole. If you want to maintain a separate group for the next 3000 years you tend your garden carefully. There may or may not be a cruel God who puts you ahead of everyone Jewish ethics says " let's keep it real". Because the world doesn't care. Zionism looks at those diaspora leaders and says they didn't know anything.

      Zionism is messianic. Zionism thinks Yahweh cares. And Zionism developed a taste for violence . You can get people to do things Plus if you tell kids they are special they are easy to control. Zionism doesn't need controls. Zionism knows everything.

      In the great sweep of history 70 years is nothing. Zionism may be a FRED process Fast rise Exponential decay .


  • Israeli ambassador lodges anti-Semitism complaint against Dutch song mocking Israel's human right record
    • Lots of things remind me of Zionism

      "Gatsby is a cautionary tale about thinking you can remake yourself"

      "Epistemic closure is when a community cannot accomodate new perspectives "

      Maybe Zionism is proof that a stable Jewish state is impossible. Maybe what makes Jews Jews isn't suited to the banality of political coherence.

    • What the Dutch ambassador is saying is that you can't criticise Jews for human rights abuses.
      This is insane .
      If lesbians were murdering Jews for a laugh they would not be allowed to use homophobia as a defence, would they?

    • In the shtetl in Poland and the ghetto in Italy anti Semitism was baseless. Jews did not sacrifice children.
      Israel on the other hand shoots kids in the head. And that is indefensible.
      Someone has to save Judaism from the thugs.

  • Video: Who are the Palestinians traveling through Rafah crossing?
  • 'Israelism' documentary tracks changing generational attitudes of American Jews
    • Mooser

      If American Jews don't speak Hebrew they can't share in the fanatacsm and the trauma iterations. . When ordinary American Jewish Schmucks emigrate to Israel this is used as a cudgel to beat them with. When push comes to shove how many American Jews would shoot someone from Gaza in the head tomorrow at 8 am?
      Only the Hebrew app goes all the way .
      Hannah Arendt understood this. Israel is not American Jews' problem. The Beitar Jerusalem guys don't understand this .

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