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There are all sorts of things that never make it in to the discourse Judaism is not hatred. It's Mensches versus Cossacks. I am with the Mensches. Fairuz is a Mensch. So are the people in Gaza, Hass, Gideon Levy, Yasmin Levy, Gurvitz, Zochrot, Btselem. The only Sabras who have managed to escape the suffocating Groupthink of Zionism are those who had parents who could see what was happening. We have to get Jews back to Menschkeit. The religion didn't survive this long by being asshole focused. "And he is scared," wrote Kol, who has helped advance bills in the fields of children's rights, violence against children, health and education. "I am scared. I am scared that we will continue living like this. And that fear scares me." But in the long run, a hostile region like that cannot be policed, even by a nuclear-armed Israel. It will simply do to Israel what some of the wars have done to us on a smaller scale. Attrite it, tire it, fatigue it, demoralize it, cause emigration of the best and the first, and then some sort of cataclysm at the end which cannot be predicted at this stage because we don’t know who will have what by when. And after all, Iran is next door. It might have some nuclear capability. Suppose the Israelis knock it off. What about Pakistan and others? The notion that one can control a region from a very strong and motivated country, but of only six million people, is simply a wild dream. In the corners there is light That is good for you And behind you, I have warned you, There are awful things

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  • Netanyahu has isolated Israel and is driving the US 'off a cliff into chaos' -- Lloyd Doggett
  • Getting away with murder: the Elor Azarya 'manslaughter' case
    • Mooser, a huge proportion of Israeli army officers are religious fruitcakes with links to militant yeshivas . Jews wouldn't do that. Except they do, these days. The brainwash. It's why there are no Israeli global cultural icons with quality output.

      The counterfactual is still top notch

    • This would be about the collapse of discipline in the Israeli Army. It's not really an army any more.

      "I felt there was a lot of thirst for blood," one soldier is quoted as saying. "This is the beauty of Gaza. You see a person walking down a street or path; he does not have to be with a weapon. You just have to see him with something, and you shoot him."

      "Central to Israel’s defence of its actions in Gaza in 2014 is the claim that international humanitarian law (IHR) is inadequate and must be modified to accommodate the “asymmetrical”nature of modern warfare. "

      The rot goes far deeper than one murderous soldier.

    • After the Carmel fires in 2010 the responsible minister, Shas head Eli Yishai, pulled out the Mizrahi defence

      "Eli Yishai is furious. "It's a lynching," the interior minister said to Haaretz on Sunday, in response to growing pressure for him to resign over the Carmel fire.
      Yishai was the first to go on the defense - he called for a state committee of inquiry and had his spokesman give the media documents ostensibly exonerating his conduct. Now the Shas chairman is going on the offensive.
      Last night, as the fires were being extinguished, Yishai and his party colleagues in the cabinet said he was being persecuted partly due to the fact that he is ultra-Orthodox, right-wing and Mizrahi."

      Nobody in Zionism does responsibility.

  • The mainstreaming of Palestinian genocide
    • If the Palestinians are forced off their land it will be a form of genocide.

    • For example

      "The Anti-Defamation League issued a sharp condemnation on Friday of the incitement directed at the country’s chief of staff and its military judges following the conviction of a soldier who shot dead a wounded Palestinian attacker. "We harshly condemn the recent incitement against Israeli authorities, specifically the IDF, after the trial of Sgt. Elor Azaria,” the ADL said in a statement." “Proper procedure was followed in this case and it was rightly before the court. We are troubled by the incendiary discourse since the announcement of the verdict, characterized by anti-democratic language and threats. Israel’s democracy and its judicial system are forces of morality and stability for the state and shouldn’t be jeopardized or undermined.”
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      the only way to have a Jewish State in the Middle east is via a brainwashed populace who take orders without question and accept the need for apartheid to sustain their standard of living.
      The ADL can't understand that

    • Israelis are educated to see Palestinians as vermin so Bennett has an audience. This all goes on in Hebrew while Zionists insist in English that Israel is a normal country.

  • Booker slams UN resolution as 'anti-Israel,' while Saban says it's anti-American
  • New poll shows sharp partisan divide on UN settlements resolution, and between Jews and African-Americans
    • It is so hopeless that there is an Israeli govt team at ministerial level to fight it. BDS scares the bejaysus out of senior Zionists

  • Will the Azaria verdict shield Israel from the International Criminal Court?
  • 'Morality within the army is becoming less important among Israeli society': Azaria conviction reveals divisions across Israeli society
    • The idea that the Israeli Army is moral is nuts. Back in 2014 following the killing of a few Israeli soldiers an area in Gaza was carpet bombed. Zionists are not stable.

    • This story is ultimately a political struggle between Likud and Habeyit Hadeludedyehudi Ha Ha for leadership of the Israeli fascist wing.

  • After Israeli soldier is convicted of manslaughter, Times and Post portray case as isolated incident
    • Poor Elor Azaria. Probably sephardi. Brainwashed. Poorly educated. From a violent town which was ethnically cleansed in 1948, Ramleh. With his made up Zionist name. Even if he is pardoned he is a loser. Family may have been Iraqi or Yemeni. Grandparents or great grandparents were sold promises of milk and honey. Reality fell short.

    • The NYT pass is the equivalent of bad parenting. Indulging Israel with favourable media coverage, nukes, UN vetoes etc has not helped Israel. It has developed a monster. Behind all US Jewish support for Judistan is the assurance that Jews wouldn't do that. And Israeli Jews would. And then some.

      Part of this is class driven. Most US Jews are middle class and educated. US Jews assume Israeli Jews are too. And they aren't. Israeli Jewish society is more ignorant, more violent and more working class.

    • The Israeli Army leadership know how dangerous the Azaria sympathy mob is. The only reason this went to court was the video and the story is toxic. Jews with guns lynching goys is not good TV and terrible PR. Kershner gives good hasbara headlines and will always oblige but the one bad apple approach won't work. 40% of Israeli Jews are nuts and this sector will keep on killing Palestinians extrajudicially. Israel is not house trained. Israel is far less civilised compared even to 20 years ago.

  • In 'breathtaking' UN vote, Obama changed his policy on Israeli settlements, making them a war crime -- Finkelstein
    • Annie ,I was thinking the same thing. Netanyahu got 14 standing ovations in Congress. The finest sycophantic politicians Adelson could buy. Who decided that was acceptable? Why do GOP politicians swear loyalty to him? Didn't Washington and Franklin warn about such behaviour?

    • It's a different culture. They have to do it their way. And they will. Zionism is a brutal enemy

    • He is very good. Masri khaalis as well

    • The region is falling apart and no leader is safe. The Palestinian issue is still there amongst the people* but the last 10 years of war and counter revolution have sapped a lot of energy.
      Israel is still on the path of collapse and Israelis are not educated to think in a way that might stop that.

      *and i hate israel,and all of us
      we're all upset ,Jerusalem is important to us

      Israel is a power issue.

  • Love in the age of Trump
    • Sibiriak

      You don't have to be hopey changey and believe in the arc of justice. Just look at how the occupation and the education system needed to sustain it have mangled Israeli Jewish society. Israeli Jews are brainwashed. They do that to their own people . High performing Israelis just leave quietly and educate their kids in normal societies.

      Israeli potential is harnessed for a project that has no legal basis. And costs increase at 7% that Israel can't afford over the medium term.

      That is before considering the Orthodox.
      Israeli collapse is a system issue. It can be catalysed by any one of 5 or 6 mismanaged issues.

    • Palestine was a stupid site for a settler colonial project in the second half of the twentieth century. They couldn't kill enough native people and pauperising them was pointless cos they aren't going anywhere. They spent over $120bn on the settlers and they have 50-50 Jews to Palestinians. Insane.

  • Democratic politicians want no part of Obama's courage at the U.N.
  • Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
    • Palestine was a poor choice. It set Judaism against Islam. It means the Jewish state is on the edge of a hostile continent. Inland mountains force the JS to run apartheid. The society isnt intellectual. It is militaristic. its wars have destabilised the region. Israel is not a country people can be proud of. Because Israel is isolated it is dependent on outside power.
      The reason why the original Jewish Kingdom failed will be why Israel fails. Regional power shifts.

    • Tom

      the argument that there never was a political state called Palestine is nonsense. It canot be used to deny people rights. An invading army could by the same logic take over a chunk of Israel , call it PamelaAndersonstan and claim it under God by saying no Jewish kingdom called PamelaAndersonstan had ever existed .

    • When Gaza is no longer livable there won't be any hasbara to defend what Israel has done

      read more:

      Some 95 percent of the water in Gaza’s aquifer isn’t fit to drink, and purified water is distributed to households under unhygienic conditions; there is electricity for eight hours a day or less; about 100 million liters of sewage flow into the sea every day, both because of the power outages and because of delays in bringing spare parts and new pumps into Gaza; the residue of spent Israeli ammunition affects the environment and people’s health in ways that have yet to be investigated; unemployment has soared to about 40

      percent, because Israeli movement restrictions have strangled production; and hundreds of thousands of young people who have never left this crowded enclave know no other reality.

    • Israeli Jews today are so different to European Jews in 1917 or 1881 as to have virtually nothing in common. Compare how the 2 groups are and were educated. Israelis are brainwashed.

    • Lawnmowers kill around 300 americans per year. Lawnmowing Gaza killed 1500 people last time. Zionism is a murderous ideology.

    • I will buy the book. The thing about Israel is that they can't turn off the violence. And they can't stop the brainwashing. Because it is Israeli identity .

  • Alan Dershowitz has threatened to leave the Democratic Party if Keith Ellison becomes chair
  • Resolution for 2017: Stop substituting 'the occupation' for 'Zionism'
    • Zionism was a stupid idea 100 years ago. Considering how it has twisted Judaism into a cruel philosophy it is still stupid.

    • Leibowitz really understood the system and where Israel was headed. Finkelstein does too.

  • Netanyahu's holy war, and the coming Jewish schism
    • Surely the massive numbers of Jews opting to marry outside of the family are a sign that in the US a lot of people have given up on listening to the Dersh and the other sociopaths who prop up the Jewish traumastan in the near East.

    • Judaism will split between Orthodox and others. Others live in the real world. Orthodox don't. Orthodox will continue to support Israel which is another fantasy world.

  • UN resolution on settlements is a step back for Palestinians
    • Mooser, given the Orthodox birth rate it prolly can, but given the Orthodox work ethic it can't guarantee they'll be able to feed themselves

    • The framework is broken so the language is irrelevant. Israel will have to be made surrender by outside forces. That means 78/22 is dead.

      "The essence of dramatic tragedy is not unhappiness. It resides in the solemnity of the remorseless working of things. "-- AN Whitehead

      “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to was never there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it." --Flannery O'Connor

      History is a record of "effects" the vast majority of which nobody intended to produce.”
      ― Joseph Alois Schumpeter

  • A bi-national, democratic state is the only option Israel and Kerry has left us with
    • WTF did Zionists expect anyway? If they want all the land they have to take all the people. No bullshit about Gaza either.

    • There would be a simple solution. Swap the West Bank for half of the Negev and the Galilee.
      90% of Israeli Jews live between the 2 . Let the Zionists brainwash their kids and let the palestinians develop their 2 areas.

  • Why Obama waited 8 years to take on Netanyahu
  • The formal end of the two-state solution
    • Old farts all over the OECD think of Exodus when they think of Israel but young people are
      not going to be the same.
      “It was very interesting to notice the attitude of the Israelis towards us. They couldn’t comprehend why were doing this. What we were doing challenges their mindset and that is why it is such an effective tactic. They treat the Palestinians as if they are subhuman. They don’t think Palestinians deserve to live in a normal society, to be able to import and export and fish and farm. It’s great to be able to meet that mindset head on.”

    • Israelis assume things will work out . Israeli culture values winging things and hoping for the best. The flips ide is sloppiness and denial of responsibility. The settlement project was ultra ideological and then taken on by the mainstream. Part of the problem is Zionist history. They ignore what happened for 1900 years so they have no insight into project failure.

    • RosRoss

      Educating US Jews about the reality of Israel is key. Israel is getting worse. It has less and less in common with life in the Diaspora.

    • Oath of loyalty to a Jewish minority? Why?

    • Gaza and the West Bank come as a package. Both sre currently occupied and form part of Eretz Israel hashlemah

    • Israel isn't even Jewish. It's paranoid. It's where Jewish kids are brainwashed. It's where torture is legal. Israel is a dystopia. Most American Jews would refuse to live there.
      Historians will probably conclude that the decision to integrate the undemocratic Mizrahi and Russian Jews was what ultimately killed the dream. Ya salaam

    • Jews think history is over. They think Israel is forever. They think the Palestine question is settled.
      And none of these apply. They could have been happy in 1964. But human nature being what it is....

    • Gaza is occupied BY Israel

    • The pillars of US support for Zionism are evangelicals, ultra rich sociopathic Jews and Jews over 50. Each will have to be isolated so the fortress collapses.

    • Gaza is not a separate polity.

  • Hear O Israel these parting truths -- John Kerry
    • Maybe Obama figured Israel was going to strangle itself anyway. Carter was right. Peace or apartheid. And Israel has chosen.

    • There is an Israeli people now, for better or worse. They are deluded but they are a unit

    • I didn't read it like that. Zionism is a paranoid fortress rather than a neighbour. Neighbours are sustainable. Paranoia is not. Airport security is so Zionist. So are nuclear weapons. So is wife beating. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Zionism is like Brexit. It was never planned coherently. And it shows.

    • Kerry gave Carter's peace not apartheid analysis. No longer from a retired pesident but a serving administration. The bots savaged Carter for his book a decade ago but the system continued. Peace or apartheid. It is like the medieval torture called the rack. Judaism is on the rack. The endgame remains the same. Netanyahu is a procrastinator. He is not a saviour. The rack is turned another quarter circle.

    • In response to the 1982 Israeli siege of Beruit, Schwarzschild published an open letter announcing his resignation from Sh’ma, and stating that “I now renounce the State of Israel, disavow any political connection or emotional obligation to it, and declare myself its enemy. I retain, of course, the same deep concern for its inhabitants, Jewish, Arab, and other, that I hold for all humankind.” He continued:
      the War on Lebanon has now made clear to me that the resumption of political power by the Jewish people after two thousand years of diaspora has been a tragedy of historical dimensions...I now conclude and avow that the price of a Jewish state is, to me, Jewishly unacceptable and that the existence of this (or any similar) Jewish ethnic religious nation state is a Jewish, i.e. a human and moral, disaster and violates every remaining value for which Judaism and Jews might exist in history. The lethal military triumphalism and corrosive racism that inheres in the State and in its supporters (both there and here) are profoundly abhorrent to me. So is the message that now goes forth to the nations of the world that the Jewish people claim the right to impose a holocaust on others in order to preserve its State.

    • In the first stage, Leibowitz said, "we shall see euphoria, upon our return to our ancient sites. Next, we shall see the emergence of messianic, radical and dangerous nationalism. In the third stage, we shall see Israeli society becoming more brutal and the emergence of a police state.”

      "..the artificial essence of Zionism - the grounding of its rhetoric in the notion of 'negation', 'inversion' 'synthesis or 'combination': its self definition as a constrained, corrective, redemptive (ben Gurion even used the word Messianic ) intervention in historical time and geographical space " Zvi Efrat from "A civilian occupation" by Segal and Weizman.

      , the project to set up the first Zionist outposts in Palestine. It's a tower surrounded by a wall. "...the seclusion within the wall separates the settlement from the new environment and defines the new community not only as those who choose to live inside but also as those who are under potential threat from outside". Sharon Rotbard, also from "a civilian occupation"

      They never wanted to integrate. They always wanted to dominate.

      "Kohn in particular was deeply troubled by the ways in which Palestinian settlement put Jews in the position of dominating others by power alone, rather than cultural renewal and a dialogical exchange. He was especially unimpressed with arguments based on “historic right” (just as he would be in his writings on nationalism years later). “With the term ‘historic right,” he suggested, “one can rationalize every kind of injustice.” As he wrote to Buber in 1929: “We have been in Palestine for 12 years now and have not once seriously tried to secure the acceptance of the people or to negotiate with the people that live in the country. We have relied exclusively on the military power of Great Britain. We have set goals that inevitably and in themselves had to lead to conflicts with the Arabs and about which we should say that they are reason–and justified reason–for a national uprising against us.”

    • Judaism is broken. Netanyahu is one of the great enemies of Judaism. He belongs with the tyrants remembered during Jewish holidays. And he broke Judaism from the inside.

  • John Kerry gives the 'separate but not equal' speech to Israel
    • I agree, Amigo. Zionists are educated to be assholes

    • They are losing this

    • Israel is on an unsustainable path. They can keep building settlements but it is not in their interest to do so. the assumptions they base their thinking on are dud.

      It's like Ayn Rand said - you can ignore reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.


      "The essence of dramatic tragedy is not unhappiness. It resides in the solemnity of the remorseless working of things."

      Netanyahu is like a termite eating away at Israel from the inside . But Yossi thinks he is a hero

      And Israel is so far away from the Menschheit of the Borscht Belt. If you took all the Jewish assholes in the world and put them in one place you would get Israel.

  • Kerry hasn't cleared his throat, and Trump and Hoyer are jumping down it
    • It's a nightmare for AIPAC. Dems vs GOP with Israel as the football.
      Israel is supposed to be a non partisan issue. The rabid groups like ZOA will always go GOP but AIPAC worked so hard to get both parties on board and now it is blowing up.

  • 'Focus is on Palestinians,' says New York Times, but it quotes only one
    • When they started the settlement project they decided the Palestinians were a defeated people who would fade into history. "Treat them like dogs. Those who want to can leave" said Moshe Dayan. 50 years later half of the people in greater Israel are Palestinian and John Kerry tells Yossi Israeli that Israel can be either Jewish or democratic but not both.

    • Real big news in Israel. Bennett wants to ban breaking the Silence from Israeli schools. Israelis are educated to commit human rights abuses. The education system is the rotting heart of Zionism and the settlers control it.

  • Israeli hysteria over UN vote is solidifying country's new status, as a rogue state
  • One-state solution gets fairer shake in a NY synagogue than it gets in NY Times or MSNBC
    • Ha'aretz described Mondoweiss as far left today

    • Gross sounds like an intuitive who understands the big picture . 95% of Israeli Jews don't. They live in a system that works for them and is now failing. Israeli incomes are 20% higher than they would be absent the occupation. Everyone will lose when the system collapses . So they beat on.

  • Scenes from a neoconservative meltdown
    • Echi , Streicher was the only journalist executed by the victors. None of his writers were killed. Very few Nazis were executed by the Allies. Most Nazis who didn't die in the war were left alone .
      Streicher was actually quite unlucky since he had fallen out of favour in 1942.

    • Mooser, Conservative or Reform would be more rational. Orthodox tend to be more rabid. I also guess Hoppy is 70+

    • My guess is American Orthodox

    • Catalan,

      Yossi Israeli is traumatised. That is the starting point. The slightest concession will lead to Auschwitz. That is how Yossi thinks. It is also what he was taught. Only the IDF can guarantee security. The Americans provide the weapons. Etc

      -The peace paradigm requires addressing Yossi's trauma. American Jews should pay for it cos they are family.
      -Peace requires a revamp of Judaism. No more extremist individuals defining doctrine a la Hebron or the King's Torah. Judaism needs quality control.
      -The Israeli education system will need to be restructured to allow Israeli kids to see Palestinians as equal.

      Israel may refuse to reform and become more vulnerable to a cataclysm down the line. The big danger is how Israel educates its kids in the age of Netanyahu and Bennett. People who believe the world hates them can do awful things. And mean reversion is a bitch.

    • Catalan, Isr Gov spending per settler is 170% Isr Gov spending per non settler Jew. Yesha is the reason Shoah survivors live in poverty, why it is so hard for Orthodox women to leave violent marriages and why Israeli math tests results are so poor on the Pisa scale. Israeli society serves the occupation. YESHA sucks in all available cash . It is the main reason Israel is a fleapit. Zionism could have had respect for women or education as a founding principle. Instead they chose land worship. YESHA is the result.

  • Israel's political left also condemns the UN's anti-settlement resolution
  • Netanyahu accuses Obama of betraying 'commitment' to Israel and initiating U.N. resolution
    • Taking on the Dems is very dangerous. Israel is great fun and lucrative until it attacks the hands that feed it. Israel is not independent. It is high maintenance. The US diplomats who warned about it in the 40s were right.

    • Everything Netanyahu says is aimed at Yossi Israeli. The great Jewish leader driving Jewish destiny. F19s and AIPAC plus God and history. Israel dissing the UK is like God speaking. Most diplomats think Netanyahu is an asshole.

    • Israel and Zionism use money cos they don't have the people. And every so often money fails.

    • I think so. No settlement is legal. Basis of International law.

    • Maybe Wolf Blitzer could tell Yossi Israeli how Galut feels about Israel. It doesn't matter what Netanyahu does in the next month or month after that. It was 2 years ago that MJ Rosenberg told Twitter that Netanyahu and everyone in his Government was a fucking barbarian. YESHA is a beaten docket. It doesn't matter how many settlers there are.

  • Netanyahu ignored US warnings and brought Israel's 'international isolation' on itself -- Ben Rhodes
    • Moose, Niddah can work miracles. Start off by declaring Zionism as unclean and take it from there .

    • Total collapse is possible. Israelis need to be re-educated and detraumatised. Everything in Israel works in the opposite direction.

    • I think one consequence of ongoing developments is that the US will not be able to provide unconditional security guarantees to Israel. Israel will need to retreat to morally defensible borders to survive. The Shia win in Syria and the potential for an explosion in Egypt with its 90m people mean the region is exceptionally volatile. Israel should focus on education now and drop Messianic fantasy. The Zionists picked a very fragile site for their histotical play date.

    • If you look back at the politics that led to this vote , Netanyahu and his fellow travellers lobbied hard for the war in Iraq. And they got their war. It ended up with Iran running Iraq, $3 tn and the collapse of US military credibility . So many unintended consequences. Netanyahu is a fraud .They all know he is not interested in peace. All the Liked blowhards were exposed on Thursday. Danon is a caricature. This is the beginning of the end for Likud. It may be the beginning of the end for Israel.

      If Israel was a normal country the opposition would take over at such a moment of national failure. But there is no opposition. Rabin is dead for 20 years. 20 years of Likud madness.

    • "A historical bloc occurs when a mode of thought, supported by some but not necessarily all political leaders, and by many, but not all, in the population gains ascendancy. There can be dissent, but it will tend to exist within the framework established by the dominant bloc. That’s what has come to fruition under the administration of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu" -
      or as Mearsheimer noted >

      "No matter how well-written or delivered, a speech cannot divert who le societies from a well-established course of action. Policies in motion tend to remain in motion; to change the trajectory of a deeply-entrenched set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal momentum. "

      Israel is fucked. YESHA is suicidal

  • It is time to recognize the US-Palestinian conflict
    • It means a risk that is not modelled and so not expected. Comes from finance. Lehman Brothers was not expected to collapse. That was a black swan event. Zionism has a huge groupthink problem and groupthink always ignores systemic risk which is the risk the system produces something the groupthink hasn't covered.

  • Abstention at the UN, or the Owl of Minerva of American Diplomacy
    • France and China won't listen to Trump

    • In 4 years Israel will be a complete pariah. YESHA is immoral. Reform and Conservative Jews will turn away. Only the Orthodox and Evangelical Rapture people will be counted on to side with the Zionists. There will be votes in standing up to the Hebrew madness. Let's all hope Netanyahu leads Israel until 2020.

    • It is a sign from the world that it has lost patience with Israel. Trump will be acting against world opinion. Dems will get votes by acting against Israel. The Israeli government miscalculated. The next decade will be fascinating. 'Abbas played a blinder . Zionists cannot buy respect or legality.

  • 'NY Times' trivializes UN abstention, reducing it to 'tense and tetchy' relationship between Obama and Netanyahu
    • Israel has a serious problem. This is not cyclical. It is systematic. No settler has a legitimate right to live east of the green line. Israel assumed it would all work out. It will not. The basis of global order is no forced border changes.

  • Breaking: UN Security Council passes historic resolution against settlements as two-state solution 'slips away'
    • If the settlements are not evacuated it is going to be 1 state. It is Israel v the World. The only way to make a Jewish state was to brainwash the Jews in it. Israel isa failure

    • If the settlements are not evacuated it is going to be 1 state.

    • It was a question of waiting for the politics to change. The Trump election opened up a split in Judaism. And Netanyahu over extended. YESHA was stupid from day 1 but the power dynamics had to iterate to the point where something was possible.

    • France is organising another meeting in January to feed into a security council meeting before Jan 20. Squeaky bum time for Israel. I don't think Obama approves of moving the embassy. And now is not the time to rile the Arabs. Israel has painted itself into a corner.

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