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  • Dionne and Shields ignore the Adelson in the room
    • So the obvious question is why didn't Dionne and Shields mention that Trump wanted to please AIPAC?
      Is it because they didn't want to be targeted as not being a friend/supporter of Israel? It's true that Christian Zionists wanted this as well. But too not make clear that this was a significant goal of Trump's Ambassador (Friedman) and Kushner was leaving out the key element in the move.

  • Netanyahu has been interfering in U.S. politics for a long, long time
    • "And he failed miserably."

      Not nearly as easy as it may look. Just consider how long it took to make inroads to a Cuba rapprochement. There will always be a price to pay.
      In Boston I can tell you that prominent media have portrayed Obama as an enemy of Israel. This after increasing the new 10-year aid package and pardoning Pollard against prosecutors wishes.
      Being called "the focus of antisemitism in the 21st century" isn't an easy label to deal with.

  • Israel's top diplomat spouts anti-Semitic criticism of American Jews -- 'having quite convenient lives'
  • The Weinstein effect drags in Israel
    • If Harvey is looking at an indictment --perhaps as early as next week-- what are his chances of fleeing to Israel? This is not going to be a Bill Cosby situation. If he ever faces a jury he could be put away permanently.

  • Leon Wieseltier on the Jewish people sounds a lot like Richard Spencer on white people
    • and don’t forget to include MSNBC political analyst Mark Halperin —
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      I'm sorry Leon is in trouble (there, I admit it). Halperin is too present in areas I pay attention to, so I'm glad he'll be taking a long walk off a short pier. In spite of Mica Brzezinski's "broken heart."

  • Video: Senator Chris Van Hollen announces opposition to Israel Anti-Boycott Act
    • I don't think you are going to hear any flat 'no's' in answer to the question.
      Van Hollen is about as close as you are going to get. I haven't heard any Republicans
      asked yet. Now that... should be interesting?

  • Three megadonors (who just happen to love Israel) are pushing Trump against Iran deal
    • I think the Iran deal is safe because it isn't just US involvement. It also helps that Trump's advisor J.Kushner doesn't have the juice he had seven months ago. As long as scheduled tests are passed even Netanyahu complaining to all who will listen... probably won't work.

  • 'NYT' leaves out Dennis Ross's charge to US Jews: 'We need to be advocates for Israel'
    • The position of both parties...USA should pursue regime change in Iraq.
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      Not true.
      Among neocons, of course it was true.
      The problem with the post 9/11 choices were that this regime change crowd gained momentum,based on Bush's personal hatred for Hussein and family.
      If Bush had maintained focus and concentrated on killing those who assisted the terrorists and were planning additional crimes against America, the US would be far better off. Iraq was never a threat to the US nor a source of terrorists attacking our cities.
      Thanks to the Neocons our post 9/11 goals became conflated with those of Netanyahu.

  • After article was rejected and publishers yawned, Walt and Mearsheimer dropped 'The Israel Lobby' in 2005
    • "Over the course of four tours in the White House, I never once saw a decision in the Oval Office to tilt U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel at the expense of America's interest." David Gergen

      http://pierretristam.com/Bobst/library/wf-146.htm
      This --"Israel Lobby" piece-- from Gergen though I would hope he's calmed down a bit.

      I've never heard or seen Walt on Boston media. That isn't to say it's never happened but in such a media conscious city to not remember Walt on the air anywhere seems amazing. Or does it?

  • Rachel Maddow's lineup of crazy U.N. speeches spotlights Arafat-- and leaves out Netanyahu!
    • I must say I watch Maddow, because "
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      Because she is very good at what she does.
      This thread is too critical of her. Nobody, is going to say everything you'd like to hear. If it's correct she's making "seven" mil it's not like there are other markets where she could go and make that kind of cash. Yes she has to walk the line carefully.
      Perhaps if you have ever had the feet cut out from under you, maybe you'd understand?

    • Rachel is very good. However, she either understands the red line or it's been inculcated without a conscious realization. If you grew up (perhaps) thinking any criticism weakens Israel it has to affect you does it not?

  • 'Regime instability' in Iran is aim of leading Israel advocate's memo to White House
    • With all the anti-Bush talk Trump had used to get the GOP Nom', I would think he's less likely to pay attention to the NeoCons. The one thing that the Goldberg types have going for them is Obama worked so hard on the Iran deal towards the end of his second term and Trump would like to trash it for that reason alone.

      While the Iran deal was only adequate (not good), from all indications Teheran is adhering to the content. Perhaps the fact that there are others involved --like all the security counsel members-- will hold Trump back from listening to AIPAC?

  • New York TV stations smear Roger Waters-- who praises BDS as 'one of most admirable pieces of resistance world has seen'
    • Kirsten Gillibrand
      I think the Sen. knows that while treading lightly she must position correctly on BDS.

  • Israel lobby is never a story (for media that is in bed with the lobby)
    • Mr. Senor seems to be part of the regular rotation on the Charlie Rose PBS show. Maybe Charlie has got around to mentioning BDS though I must have missed it?

      Yes of course there are "red lines" out there that must be paid attention too (a la Chris Hayes) something we find routinely. A good example was the lack of acknowledgement of the 50th USS Liberty anniversary, June 8th. I sent in a few brief newspaper 'letters to the editor'. None were published.

  • US Ambassador blames Obama for 'absolute betrayal' of Israel, and Palestinians for killing the peace process
  • American Legion calls on Congress to finally investigate 'USS Liberty' attack, 50 years after
    • "switch to the “tragic accident” gambit. "
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      I'd say there were three gambits:

      * While appearing like an Egyptian freighter, you were trying to escape (at high speed) and weren't flying your American colors gambit.

      * It was a tragic mistake gambit. We couldn't see the flag because the weather was too good and the colors were limp. Condolences.

      * After the LBJ leak to "Newsweek" began the 'Blood Libel Gambit'. In essence saying 'we gave you our answer and a friend would accept it'. 'Failure to do so will cause us to turn to other means and make sure the press and Jewish donors know that LBJ will not allow us to write this off as a mistake, allowing us to revel in our 6-day War Victory.
      'If you continue the blame game, we will do what we have to do.'

    • " Oren wrote a detailed account "
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      Oren is a scholar. But he has a vested interest now doesn't he? Just know this: I have never read that any American Government official believes what they have heard from Israel. Nobody.
      Yes there have been a few dubious heartfelt explanations like from Justices Goldberg, Fortes, the Rostow Bros. but that's to be expected. There has never been someone with the stature of say Clark Clifford that said ' I accept the explanation of Israel without question.'

    • "theory then what were up to which led to Israelis to take such strong action?"
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      Couple of possibilities. Israel wasn't pleased with US prewar attitude, what NSA were doing with the spy ship, and how US might
      behave at the UN and in brokering peace negotiations. They wanted total victory. Complete military slaughter with territory won. They didn't want a repeat of Suez '56. If they saw the Liberty as being in the way --for whatever reason-- they just had to be eliminated.

      Israel wanted land. It was the bottom line. All that mattered. If they thought that the "Liberty" was a threat with its Intel capabilities then the sailor/spy crew were fungible. I don't necessarily think this was a decision taken at the head of Gov' but perhaps left to General Dayan.

      Think about how few mistakes the IDF made in the Six Days? Were there any ? Just this one really, really, huge error after days of surveillance. It doesn't add up.

    • "They had military ships in the area" to do the job.
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      Obviously having "military ships" attack the "Liberty" would be idiotic. The IDF would be identified and the USN would counterattack with a carrier group.

      The entire operation was supposed to be clandestine with 'unidentified' Mirage fighters sent in to knock out the Liberty's communications and patrol torpedo boats to finish off the job of sending the "Liberty" to the bottom of the ocean.
      The 'idea' was to have the crew 'believe' that they were being attacked by an Arab force , likely the Egyptians. With a inability to communicate that to their Naval superiors initially and eventually, due to the sustained attack.

      The plan was to silence radio communications, attacking from the air, finish off with torpedoes , sink Liberty, take no survivors.

      As for paying compensation it was about 10% of the vessel's worth and took about 20 years to actually collect.

      To those who would think this improbable remember the " Lavon Affair" of 1954. Terrorist attacks in Egypt against US interests code named"Operation Susannah" were eventually admitted to in 2005 when survivor spies were honored (by Moshe Katsav).

  • 'I wanted to change the world, and I did; I made it worse' -- guru Arthur Finkelstein
    • Since the GOP was anti-gay in the extreme --in the 80's-- Arthur must have been an anti-gay, gay conservative as Al Franken likes to term it. Approving many "negative" scripts that were successfully self loathing with a smile on his face.

  • Netanyahu is silent for 3 days over neo-Nazi violence, while his son says Black Lives Matter and Antifa are the real threat
    • When Netanyahu spoke in opposition to the President of the United States while addressing Congress it set several things in motion. One, was a false sense of confidence that the taking of political sides in the US will not have consequences. This was a big mistake.

  • Both political parties are fighting openly over Israel's role in our policy-making
    • The GOP is permanently attached to the Christian Zionists. It's inevitable that Democrats will lose may Jews as Likud distances itself from the traditional Israeli convention of staying out of partisan US politics and takes an active part in taking sides over policy and elections.

  • Bill making it a federal crime to support BDS sends shockwaves through progressive community
    • It would be interesting to see if there's a correlation between not supporting Obama's deal with Iran over nukes and support for a bill to criminalize BDS?
      Obviously they are different issues but do they engender similar support from Dem's looking
      to keep their locks on Jewish support (and contributors)?
      Obviously Schumer and Cardin will be in for both but if true it would be disappointing if Schiff
      were also part of that group.

  • 'Irreplaceable bedrock' of U.S. backing for Israel is threatened by -- intermarriage
    • The real truth here is that Americans have no idea about what happened in the '67 "Liberty" incident. Not a clue about how much money the US has sent Israel's way over the last two generations. Totally uninformed about how Netanyahu weaponized the "Stuxnet" virus and ruined it as a potential answer to the Iran nukes program. Americans just don't know these things. They even accept the fact that "Likud" calls the former President of the US " the face of antisemitism for the 21st century." A singularly gross insult, tinged with racism.

      But should they find out. With some kind of sustained informational schooling on all matters US/Israel. I'd say there would be big changes ahead. But so far it hasn't happened? How long this can last will probably be as long as Israel can continue to have a "Special Relationship" with US mass media. They do a good job at keeping people blissfully ignorant.

  • 'To live or to perish' -- Norman Finkelstein on the Six-Day-War and its mythology
    • "not a comprehensive measurement of intelligence."
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      Of course it is. It's an IQ test not an acquired knowledge test.

      "do so? Questionable."
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      If he didn't it would have been found out by Opp-Research in about 2 minutes. Of course he did (get 1600).
      It's a brilliant score ( about 900 out of 1.5 mil achieve it, or roughly 6%).

  • Senator on Intelligence Committee says Jews in Diaspora are spies for Israel
    • Of course Cotton had to get his shot in about the security services now having closer ties given that there has been a change in administrations.
      But he didn't mention the potential forthcoming difficulties, with a likely Trump resignation which could take as much as two years to get to.

  • Love of Israel + Defense of Trump = Meshuggeneh
    • Maybe when a half-dozen people are indicted and Trump --I hope it doesn't happen/ Pense-- gets booted from office will it dawn upon peretz that people that think like him can cause a lot of trouble that will require years to repair.

  • Dershowitz gets drunk on water

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