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  • AIPAC taking all but 3 freshmen Congresspeople to Israel in effort to sabotage Iran deal
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius August 3, 2015 at 1:42 pm

      Oh, the Gulfies are still there (Kerry is in Doha right now) but they are not daft enough to shout their opposition from the rooftops. Far better to say nothing, and work quietly at opposing the deal behind closed doors. Not that they have any chance of doing so, given that the UN and EU have both approved it unanimously, but a lot more dignified than Bibi's 'toys from pram' routine.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius August 3, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      This is great. It just draws attention to the fact that just about the ONLY opposition to this deal (discounting a few corrupt oil sheikhdoms) comes from mad Bibi. It will make it even more obvious that those who oppose the agreement do so not out of loyalty to their own country, but to Israel.

      Never mind the fact that the deal cannot be 'sabotaged'. It has been unanimously approved by the EU AND the UN. It's a done deal. Nobody cares what a few bought and paid for Yankee politicians think.

  • The burning of a Palestinian child: not an exception, but a result of Zionism
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius August 2, 2015 at 5:20 am

      "There are many good people in Israel, but unfortunately their voices are still."

      Are there? Well over 90% of Israelis supported last summer's Gaza massacre, just as they have supported every single of the many wars in the history of the Jewish state. Many - including the hypocrite Isaac Herzog, who is addressing this 'rally' - thought that the IDF wasn't 'tough enough' on Gaza. The Israeli population has, at the very least, tacitly approved of the siege of Gaza and of the occupation. There has never, ever been a genuine pro-justice for Palestine party which has got more than a very small proportion of votes. And after enjoying the most cost-free years of occupation in Israel's history, the population turned around and voted in the most openly racist, far-right government ever.

      So I'm sorry, I just cant' share your view that there is a silent majority of 'good people' in Israel. If anything, the opposite is true.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius August 2, 2015 at 5:14 am

      They're already doing it. The moment Corbyn announced his candidacy, we had the usual suspects chiming in about his 'anti-semitism' and ''support for terrorist organisations'. None of these people, of course, would ever dare complain that so many high ranking politicians are card carrying ''Friends of Israel'', or ask what influence this has on British politics.

      So far, at least, these smear attempts don't appear to be having any impact. But I agree with you that the gloves will come off if or when - I hope when - Corbyn wins the leadership contest.

  • Huckabee's 'oven' comment echoes many Netanyahu statements equating Iran to Nazis
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 28, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      For himself, Netanyahu is the one man standing between the Jewish people and another holocaust.

      To everyone else, he's just some nutter with a cartoon bomb and a dodgy combover.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 28, 2015 at 2:56 pm with 4 replies

      Keep talking, Bibi! The more you screech your incomprehensible rants like the smelly drunk at the back of the bus, the more you make it certain that the Iran deal is going through.

      That's all, Bibi!

      link to 41.media.tumblr.com

  • Israeli forces enter Al Aqsa mosque compound with gunfire to allow rightwing Jewish tour
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 28, 2015 at 11:31 am

      Maybe.... but having lived there, I know that Saudis are nothing if not discreet.

      Yes, the Saudis are barely even trying to hide their love for Zionism these days but still, driving around Tel Aviv in a Saudi registered vehicle would be a step too far.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 28, 2015 at 8:42 am with 2 replies

      Not sure what to make of these stories. There is no doubt that the Israelis and Saudis are in cahoots, and are becoming increasingly unafraid of announcing their romance to the whole world.

      However, it's extremely unlikely that any top Saudi official is going to get into a car and drive from Riyadh across the desert to Israel. As well as the embarrasment factor (the two countries are still technically at war) these guys get around by private jet, not by car. So the idea that it's a 'businessman' makes more sense. Even so, it's odd that a businessman wealthy and important enough to be allowed across Israel's 'borders' would drive all the way there. Much more likely he'd fly to Amman and drive - or more likely, be driven - from there.

      It's all rather odd.

  • It's time for American Jews to recognize they have been duped
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 28, 2015 at 2:51 pm

      I hope hophmi isn't reading.

      You wouldn't want to stir up the deep, enduring 'trauma' he feels to this day over the 'evacuation' of Gaza, would you?

    • Don't you find most hasbarists sound identical to one another? They're all pretty interchangable to me. I guess that these days, the arguments they have are so few, and so poor, that they all cling to whatever they have. They all kind of blend into one hasbarist sludge.

    • Agree.

      American Jews are not victims. Au contraire, on the whole they are well educated and affluent. They have not been 'duped'. Instead, they have actively created a myth to which they cling, ignoring everything - and there's a hell of a lot - which sullies it. And it's not because the information isn't out there - it is. Worse, many of them enthusiastically hawk this myth to others. They are not the victims of some slick salesman. They are the salesman.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 26, 2015 at 11:28 am

      "this miniature entity defied all odds and not just survived but thrived. "

      What 'odds'? It was a heavily armed colonial entity with backing from the major world powers, fighting against 3rd world armies only recently freed from the shackles of colonialism. This ''plucky little Israel' myth is just that - a myth.

      As for 'thrived', I'm not sure I'd use that word to describe a country which has gone to war 4 times in the last decade, relies on charity from gentiles and whose society is descending into outright fascism.

    • "You acquire citizenship in a country that faces no threats"

      Sorry, but isn't it normal that somebody who lives in what is supposedly a warzone, facing 'existential threats', would move to a safer country if the possibility exists? How many Iraqis would stay in their 'homeland' if they could move to the UK or Australia, for example?

      It's amusing to see how hasbarists change the narrative to suit the prevailing propaganda need. When they need to show how 'antisemitic' the 'West' is, the 'Jewish state' is portrayed as a haven of security. On the other hand, when they want to justify their indiscriminate bombing of civilians, Israel is cowering under a 'barrage' of rockets', facing 'existential threats' on all sides.

      So which is it today?

  • Greece’s Syriza makes military deal with Israel that only US has made
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm

      "its erstwhile real good relationship with turkey, the traditional foe of Greece, is practically over. "

      Murdering a country's civilians on the high seas will tend to do that.

      Israel: Alienating its allies since 1949.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 25, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      Probably. But the net results are the same.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 25, 2015 at 7:18 am with 1 replies

      He insisted that the “Greek people are very close to the people in Israel.”

      According to my Greek friends, precisely the opposite is true.

  • 'If we don't take out Iran,' it will reenact the Holocaust in US and Israel -- Steven Emerson to Times Square rally
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 23, 2015 at 3:52 pm with 2 replies

      "Last night there was a big rally in Times Square in NY calling on Senator Chuck Schumer (among others) to kill the Iran deal. "

      You would think that a hot-shot lawyer like the Dersh would know that no Yank Senator can ''kill' the Iran deal. It's just been unanimously approved by the EU AND by the UN. It is happening.

      It says a lot about the mentality of certain USAmericans that they think that some red-necked senator can veto a deal reached together with the likes of China, Germany and the UK. Even in the highly unlikely event that these fools do manage to turn Congress against the deal for the love of Bibi, it is in no way binding on the other countries who have signed up to it. The Europeans and Chinese have long been sick of the sanctions and are most certainly not going to renege on billions of Euro worth of business in an untapped market just because some fool from Des Moines, Iowa, said they should. In fact, they would be thrilled - if Americans want to opt out, that means there's all the more juicy contracts for everyone else!

      The deal is happening, folks. Deal with it.

  • Poll: 51% of Jewish Israelis support reconstruction of Gaza settlements
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 23, 2015 at 11:31 am

      "So relocating a few thousand illegal settlers who had only lived there a few decades at most with HEAVY COMPENSATION, into their own country,"

      Actually, many of them were not relocated into "their own country" - however that be defined, they've yet to get around to declaring their borders - but into other illegal squats on stolen Palestinian land.

      And we are supposed to feel sorry for them?

      The hopster has lost every shred of 'liberal Zionism' he ever pretended to, if he wants us to weep for the 'trauma' experienced by land thieves. But hey, they weren't 'ideological', so I suppose that makes everything OK. Sure.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:19 pm

      I agree. But even if they're not ''ideological'' so what? Does it make it easier on the person forced to live in a squalid refugee camp that the Russian family living on their land didn't steal it because god gave it to them, but because they liked the idea of a subsidised home twice the size of one they could afford in ''Israel proper'?

      Theft is theft 'ideological' or not.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:15 pm

      Isn't it funny how Israelis always become ''Jews'' when the hasbarist thinks it will have 'victim' resonance?

      I mean, you'd never see the hopster talk about how Jews murdered 500 children in Gaza last year, would you?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      "The pullout from Gaza was an agonizing experience for most Israelis"

      Stop it!

      You're breaking my heart!

      You're reminding me of all those deeply, deeply traumatic scenes where ethnosupremacist land thieves were relocated from one piece of stolen land to another, choicer piece of stolen land. Who can forget those heartrending scenes where the thieves were escorted from the stolen property, by a colonial police officer of the same gender - as we were told - holding tight of each limb to ensure that no underwear was glimpsed between flailing settler legs.

      What a horror it was, hophmi! It has deeply scarred the consciousness of all right-thinking people, especially those like yourself who made excuses and whined about 'antisemitism' as Israel murdered 500 children in Gaza this time last year. I mean, what are a few hundred chldren's lives when set against the incomparable trauma suffered by relocated land thieves?

      I have my priorities, hospmi, and you have yours.

  • If Americans support Iran deal, 56-37, what gives Israel the power to 'croak' it?
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 11:24 am

      "It’s silly to define a group by non membership in some small religious sect."

      I agree.

      That's why I always wince at the word 'gentile' used by Jews to describe the 99.9999999% of humanity which does not adhere to their small religious sect.

  • The Iran deal: a triumph of irrationality
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 23, 2015 at 8:32 am

      So you're going by official Qatari figures? The Gulf states are known for exaggerating their populations.

      Also, you said Doha had a population of 2.5 million, not Qatar as a whole. Not that Wiki is the bible or anything, but I still think their figure of 900k sounds more realistic.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:54 pm

      "You might want to visit again."

      No thanks. It's a charmless kip, even by Gulf standards.

      And while I certainly don't deny that the UK has important economic interests in the Gulf countries, your figure of 200K Brits working there is absurd.

      "MDMA, there are over 2 5 million people in Doha now. "

      Wiki puts it at 900K, which sounds much more realistic to me. Have you got source for the 2.5 million figure? And for the 200K Brits in Qatar figure?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:44 pm

      20k sounds a bit more like it.

      Plus, many of these will be dependent family members. They will not all be employees sending money home to the UK.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:26 pm

      @lysias

      Yes, the 'defence' industries in the UK are heavily dependent on selling their crap to the Gulf states, most of whom leave it to rust in the desert. But the vast majority of these workers stay in the UK, and do not relocate to the Gulf.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:24 pm

      I have worked in Qatar.

      The entire population there is probably no more than around a milllion, 80% of whom are expats.

      There's no way in hell one fifth of the population is British - the same as Qatari citizens.. Absolutely no way. And very very few ''Westerners' work as 'health care assistants' or 'accountants' in the Gulf anymore. These jobs were either assigned to locals or to much cheaper foreigners - Indians, Egyptians or Philippinos, about a decade ago.

      BTW Wiki puts the number of Brits 'living and working' - ie, not all of them economically active - in KSA as 30,000. Since KSA is larger than the rest of the Gulf countries combined, the figure of 200K British 'skilled worker' in Qatar is ridiculous.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 5:02 pm

      There aren't 'hundreds of thousands' of Brits in the Gulf states. Nowhere close. And it's nonsensical to claim that Britain depends on the money sent home by the relative handful of British workers there. If every single Brit employed in these countries was deported tomorrow, the British economy wouldn't even notice the difference. Britain is not Egypt or Bangladesh.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 11:11 am

      "That`s also one reason that Iran came closer to the US – it`s main deterrence over Israel practically gone. Moreover Hezbollah is now in panic over ISIS – their impact goes right to the very heart of Lebanon (and its sectarian make up plus millions of Syrian refugees). Clearly the missiles are of no use in this regard."

      Gosh, Ivri, when you put it like that, people might almost think that Israelis are rubbing their hands in glee about the horrors in Syria. I'm sure you'd hate if people got that idea, especially if you wanted to do the usual ''But but what about Syria?" line in diversion tactics.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 21, 2015 at 3:53 pm

      "Perhaps. I suspect that Israel grossly exaggerates its guesses of the number of missiles in the possession of Hezbollah. "

      And I suspect that Israeli guesses on Hizballah's capabilities are just that - guesses.

      The July war showed that they really hadn't got a clue what hit them - literally - when they went on a little Lebanese lawn mowing. That would indicate that their intelligence on Lebanon was pretty poor. It's possible they may have got better sources since then, but I doubt it. Even last summer, against a much less formidable foe, and in a territory under total Israeli lockdown, the IDF were clearly unpleasantly surprised by what lay in store for them. I doubt they really have a clue about what's going on north of their 'borders'.

  • Video: Israelis in West Jerusalem call for attack on Iran
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 11:15 am

      Yes. They'll fight Iran right down to the last American soldier.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 22, 2015 at 11:14 am

      "War" for most Israelis means taking snaps of yourself looking all handsome and macho in your IDF uniform and posting them on Instagram.

      Faced with a real enemy, these clowns run away. Their nappy filling antics when faced with Hizballah are of course well known. But I remember pics of the Israeli 'special forces' after they raided the Mavi Marmara. These dudes - supposedly the creme de la creme of the IDF - were actually crying, even though they were faced with unarmed humanitarian workers, 10 of whom they murdered. And this, to repeat, is the so-called 'elite' of the IDF, not the conscript grunts they normally send into 'combat'.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 20, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      @Kris,

      I've always found the phrase 'targetted assassinations' to be bizarre. By definition, an assassination has to be targetted. Is the expression ever used to describe judicial murders by any state other than Israel? If so, I've never heard it.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 20, 2015 at 2:06 pm

      I said something similar above. For these guys, 'war' is a great opportunity to feel all macho - dropping bombs on the heads of kids - and look cool on Instagram.

      They might not think it so cool if they had to face the Republican Guard, just as they didn't think it was cool when they ran away from Hizballah.

    • Worth bearing in mind that when these dudes think of ''war'', what comes to mind is likely bombing refugee camps and kids playing football - from the safe distance of your American funded aircraft.

      How many of these guys would honestly volunteer to take on the Republican Guard? Very, very few.

  • There are 326,000 children near Tel Aviv who won't be hearing Caetano Veloso
  • 'I trust Obama more than the Prime Minister of Israel to run our policy' -- George W. Bush's former pollster
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 16, 2015 at 4:54 pm with 3 replies

      "How much more damage to Israel will its moderates tolerate"

      Virtually every Jewish Israeli politican condemned the Iran deal, just as virtually every one of them cheerled the Gaza slaughter.

      There are no 'moderates' in Israel.

  • Israel's real fear about the Iran deal: It puts pressure on the occupation
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 16, 2015 at 3:51 pm

      "Here’s another attack in Argentina that has been linked to Iran. "

      As Annie said 'has been linked' means sweet FA. There are many people with a very strong incentive to 'link' Iran with every lost puppy dog or stolen telephone anywhere in the world, but unless you can come up with hard evidence (linking to Wiki doesn't count) the 'link' means very little.

      "But congrats on finding a way, once again, to offensive compare Nazis and their victims. "

      A nation state cannot be a 'victim'. Especially given that Israel didn't exist at the time of the Nazis. Hardly anyone alive in Israel today was a victim of the Nazis. You'll find far more victims of the Nazis in Poland or Russia than you will in Israel. This grasping at perpetual vicarious victimhood is utterly pathetic.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 15, 2015 at 5:04 pm

      "Security experts don’t like it."

      What is a 'security expert' and how does one become one? You've already admitted that 'arms control experts' are happy with the deal, so what do these 'security experts' know that the former don't?

      From what I can see, the ONLY people opposing this deal are shills for Israel and/or its new buddies, the polygamous sheikhs of the Gulf.

      "Notice I haven’t given my own view on the agreement. You think you know what it is, I’m sure. "

      OH come now, hops, don't be coy!

      "I’m more interested in why Mondoweiss is so in favor of it."

      Pretty much EVERYONE, other than fans of some of the shittiest regimes on earth, is in favour of this deal. It's that rarity in world affairs - a win-win, achieved without a single shot being fired. I understand that the very concept is baffling for an apologist for an intrinsically violent regime for whom negotiation is a sign of weakness before one's racial inferiors. But there you have it.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 15, 2015 at 4:57 pm

      Apart from the fact that the forensics dont' add up - see the work of Gareth Porter on this - at the time of the bombings, Iran was actively seeking out better relations with Argentina. So the idea that Iran was behind the bombings is highly unlikely, though I suspect that as the hissy fits over the nuclear deal reach boiling point, we're going to hear this old tale rehashed with mind-numbing regularity.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 15, 2015 at 3:35 pm

      "most people are not going to focused on what you call “iran’s antisemitism”. in fact it seems rather off topic considering what’s being covered in the deal."

      Surely you know by now, Annie, that ''antisemitism'' is NEVER off topic for Hophmi!

  • The people love the Iran deal -- to judge from 'NYT' letters
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 15, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      "just another nation and just another people"

      The funny thing is, we're always told that that is what Israel is FOR - to be 'just another country', albeit a 'Jewish' one. Witness all the whining about 'singling Israel out' when it suits them. And yet now, when Israel is put back in its box, and treated like just another minor nation which didn't have a seat at the table, they start tearing their hair out and demanding special treatment. Sigh. Never happy, are they?

    • I'm getting a huge kick out of it too.

      I've been following this 'crisis' for years, and have noticed that every single one of the opponents to a deal have been shills for Israel. No exceptions. None. Of course, some of them try to pretend otherwise, and claim that they're 'concerned about nuclear proliferation' or 'the stability of the region' or some such nonsense. But push them a bit, and 10 times out of 10, it will be quickly revealed that their one and only concern is protecting Israeli hegemony.

  • CT bus ads feature longstanding plan to 'abolish partition'
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius July 17, 2015 at 7:33 am

      "As to being on the Left: I identify with the struggle for more social justice , more equality, more democracy and human rights, and the pursuit of peace, all the classic ingredients of the Left. "

      And all of them the opposite of Zionism.

  • 'Jewish cow' is udderly superior to all other cows in the world, Netanyahu says
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 28, 2015 at 4:48 am

      I thought so too. But no. It's for realz.

      Satirists must hate Bibi. They have put him out of business.

  • Untold Stories: First-ever US Nakba Museum opens in Washington DC
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      Except that David Grun had everything to do with the Nakba, and Al Husseini had almost nothing to do with the Holocaust.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm with 7 replies

      Oh get a grip and stop whining! There are Holocaust museums and memorials in cities all over the world, including a huge publically funded one in Washington. This, despite the fact that the Holocaust had nothing to do with the US, and that there is not a similar memorial to such things as slavery which had a LOT to do with the US.

      It's quite chilling how Zionists are so angered by any acknowledgement of Palestinian suffering. Your heart felt concern for the Hoa Chinese, however, is touching. Did you just come up with them yourself, or can we expect to hear frequent mention of the Hoa Chinese as the latest hasbara whataboutery tactic?

  • 'NY Times' helps Israel whitewash the killings of four boys playing soccer on Gaza beach
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 2:15 pm

      Thanks. I see little difference between the Guardian and the NYT these days. They are obsessed with 'anti semitism' and the 'soul of Israel'. They've even got Hadley Freedman - whose normal stock in trade is Kim Kardashian and name dropping about Jamie Dornan - on the case. It's interesting because, as I said above, take away the single issue hasbarists who only post on I/P threads they've been alerted to, most of the Guardian readership does not appear to be pro-Israel at all.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm with 1 replies

      Beaumont is pissed off because this nonsense directly contradicts his first hand evidence. He reported that he and other journalists were frantically waving their arms and shouting ''They're only kids!'' at the gunship. He also said that there was about half a minute between the first and second shots, and that the gunship carefully switched its aim to target the boys. In his mind, and that of the several other journos who were there, there was absolutely no doubt that the boys were deliberately murdered.

      I must say in general though, that Beaumont is quite cowardly when 'reporting' on I/P issues. He relies heavily on official Israeli sources, whom he mostly quotes uncritically. He's angry here because his personal testimony was contradicted, but a courageous reporter he is not. And notice, as usual with the Guardian, that comments are closed on this article.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 10:57 am

      Interesting, didn't know 'CiF Watch' had changed moniker!

      And you're right about the hasbarists flooding any CiF discussions on I/P. One thing I've noticed though, is that they often miss some discussions- probably because the GIYUS microphone failed to alert them - and then the comments tend to be much more pro-Palestinian. So I would say that, absent the single issue hasbarists who flood certain threads, the Guardian readership is on the whole not pro-Israel, though the same cannot be said for most of their hacks.

      I remember the live blogs they had during the last Gaza massacre were relatively un-censored, and, aside from a few hardcore hasbarists, overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian. The CiF Watch brigade must have known about these blogs, so I wonder if their absence indicates that even they knew they could not defend something quite so indefensible?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 9:48 am with 1 replies

      Baghdad Bob was at least funny, and you always got the impression that he knew perfectly well that what he was saying was BS, but he didn't have much choice.

      Lerner doubtless believes his own propganda though. And how fitting that he's a Saffer. As soon as white supremacy ended there, he ran off to the last country where it still exists.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 5:30 am with 3 replies

      ''The Guardian'' has long had an unspoken - but very obvious - policy of rarely opening comments on I/P threads, and when they do, the moderators watch them like hawks. These threads end up looking like a Swiss cheese, with perfectly reasonable comments removed for no apparent reason.

  • Is BDS practicing a double standard with respect to Arab countries?
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 6:02 am with 1 replies

      Agree 100%. Boycotting 'the settlements' but not Israel itself makes absolutely no sense - as far as Israel is concerned, the 'settlements' are a part of Israel. It's just another example of how 'liberal Zionists' support non-violent resistance - provided it doesn't harm Israel at all. Boycotting only the 'settlements' amounts to a slap on the wrist, at the very most.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 10, 2015 at 2:18 pm with 1 replies

      I seem to recall reading somewhere - probably right here on MW - that not so long ago our friends the 'liberal Zionists' actually encouraged boycott of Israel. That was part of their ''Oh, gosh you know I'd really support the Palestinians if only they'd adopt non-violent resistance'' hypocrisy. Of course, their idea of 'boycott' was similar to Beinart's, if not even weaker - a symbolic, slap on the wrist style of thing which would do no harm to Israel, but would allow them to feel even smugger about themselves.

      Now, however, with BDS poised to actually make a difference, we're back to the old 'singling out Israel', ''anti semitism', 'but what about......' nonsense. Which just confirms what I've long believed - 'liberal Zionists' don't want any resistance - violent or non violent - to Israel. At all. The only 'resistance' they approve of is the one which does zero harm to Israel, ie, no resistance at all. What a bunch of craven hypocrites they really are.

  • Supreme Court slam dunks the Israel lobby on Jerusalem, 6-3 (and Rubio, Oren, and Engel are angry)
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius June 12, 2015 at 2:58 pm

      @lysias

      I have read that the Roma lost proportionatly more people than any other group targetted in the Holocaust, including the Jews. However, because, far from being Special Snowflakes, the Roma are Europe's most despised minority, they don't count in the victimhood stakes.

  • International calls rise for FIFA to suspend Israel
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 19, 2015 at 2:40 pm

      @NickJocW ''Furthermore, if it seriously thinks itself European it has no business claiming Palestine.''

      That's one of the many fundamental contradictions of Zionism. When it suits, Israelis are ''European'' and describe themselves as alien to all the weird shenanigans of the orient. On the other hand, they claim that they are the indigenous people 'returning' to their 'homeland' in Palestine, with more right to the land than Palestinians who can trace back their ancestors for hundreds of years.

      Zionism really is daft.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 19, 2015 at 2:37 pm

      Israel is as shit at football as it is at just about any other sport - other than simulated 'grin 'n' point' as in those obviously staged 'look at that wonderful Iron Dome intercepting that dastardly missile' pics. So it would not be missed if kicked out of FIFA - it's not like their presence will ever trouble any major tournament. Still, I agree with Bornajoo and others that the chances of the corrupt FIFA kicking them out are virtually zero. That said, all credit to those who signed this letter, and no credit to the Jonathan Freedland Guardian for burying it away in the back corner somewhere.

  • Gush Shalom: Abolish 'Jerusalem Day' - the settler holiday
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 19, 2015 at 2:46 pm

      If this had been a Muslim trying to kill somone because they had served him non-halal meat, we'd never hear the end of it.

  • What if the Times had sent Rudoren to Selma in 1965?
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 18, 2015 at 11:32 am

      ''Palestine was a pretty retched place.''

      And if there's one thing I hate, ''Jeffy B'', it's a ''retched place''.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 17, 2015 at 4:44 am

      The use of the words 'fulminate' and 'throngs' really struck me too. In one way it was far from the most offensive part of this puff piece on a wannabe ethnic cleanser, but it sums up Rudoren's attitude. It's classic anti-Arab racism, really - Arabs, not like nice civilised Jews like Shaked, are irrational, emotionalistic creatures who live by mob rule. In fact, as you say, Ashrawi is highly educated, articulate and cool-headed. I would also say she is moderate to a fault. She's about the last person you can imagine 'fulminating'. Which is more than can be said for Shaked and most of the Likud nutters.

  • 'So wait, the Nakba is…?': Listening to Israelis discuss the Nakba
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 17, 2015 at 4:35 am

      @echinococcus

      Yes, good comment. I do agree that much Zionist opposition to recognising the Armenian genocide has to do not only with the importance of the Israeli-Turkish relationship, but also to the 'stealing our holocaust' narcissism. The Armenians, like the Jews are also a succesful, well-off ethnic minority in the US, and the Zionists don't want any 'competition' in the sympathy stakes.

      Pathetic.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 16, 2015 at 3:58 pm with 3 replies

      Haven't the Israelis started making noises - though never translated into action - about the Armenian genocide after falling out with Turkey due to the Mavi Marmara massacre? It was around the same time they suddenly discovered the cause of the Turkish Kurds, even though they actively supported the Turkish military when it was waging war with, and killing tens of thousands of, Kurds.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 16, 2015 at 3:57 pm

      ''the “left” (which in Israel means conciliatory toward Palestinians) ''

      No. No it certainly does not! It means ''trying to give the IMPRESSION of being conciliatory towards Palestinians, while in practice supporting - or at the very least not opposing - every war, siege and occupation practised by Israel''. Some of the worst war crimes have been committed by 'moderate' Israeli governments.

      Support for the Gaza massacre was well above 90% in all surveys done this summer. Quite a few Israelis didn't think the 'war' had gone far enough. Very very few thought it was too harsh. The 'left' in the sense you portray it is virtually non-existent in Israel. The mask has fallen. What you see is what you get.

  • Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister in new government
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      ''May the day come when a single Arab Prime Minister has to go through the six weeks of democratic coalition building the current Israeli Prime Minister has just gone through.''

      We can now add the political history of Lebanon - where coalitions are very much the norm - to the long list of things hophmi has no clue about.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      '' I thought it did have a whiff of anti-semitism about it. ''

      Meh. If it had been a tuna sandwich they'd have said he was a very fishy character. The Sun specialises in silly word play, but some people are just desperate to find 'a whiff of antisemitism' everywhere. Could you imagine if Labour had a Muslim leader? There wouldn't be a barely detectable 'whiff' of Islamophobia about the tabloids' coverage. There would have been an all-emcompassing stench.

      ''I hope someone asks Maureen Lipman for her reaction :-)''

      You mean she's still here? I thought she'd run off for safety to Israel, rather than stay in a country so horribly antisemitic that it is seriously considering electing a Jewish PM.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 12:03 pm with 5 replies

      Not on topic but I can't find a more appropriate place for it.

      While I'm hoping for a Labour victory in tomorrow's UK elections, I'm sort of dreading the ''anti-semitism'' hysteria from the meeja if Miliband becomes PM. The elections haven't even taken place yet, and they're already at it, or at least the Jonathan Freedland Guardian is, claiming that a silly cover story in The Sun is 'anti-semitic'.

      link to theguardian.com

      Thankfully, most readers are mocking the writer for his spurious 'anti-semite' accusations, but still, you can tell that the anti-semitism industry is rubbing its hands in glee at the thought of a Miliband victory. It'll be impossible to say a word against him, because that might be 'antisemitic', you see.

  • Gaza rules: Kill 2 Palestinian women on cellphones in an orchard so Israeli soldiers face zero risk
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      @Walid

      But weren't they 'shoot and cry' films? As in, ''Yes, Israeli soldiers did terrible things but they were just a few bad apples led astray by incompetent leaders and provoked by the tewwowist keezbalakh.''. The usual fretting over what war does to the 'soul of Israel' rather than to the Arab men, women and children whose lives are destroyed by it?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 9:29 am

      I think the 1982 invasion of Lebanon was the very last time anyone could say, with even a tiny shred of plausibility, that joining the IDF was in any way justifiable. The siege of Beirut changed all that, even among some Zionists. They've been fretting about the 'soul of Israel' ever since.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 6, 2015 at 4:15 am

      @jackdaw

      Not that I'd trust the NYT above the journalists who were actually there and saw the boys being murdered by a warship, but can you tell me where, exactly, that article claims the boys were killed by an air strike?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 5, 2015 at 6:22 pm with 1 replies

      Your brother served in the IDF in Lebanon? Yikes!

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 5, 2015 at 6:02 pm

      All your 'argument' shows is that the 'world's most moral' army, for all its fancy boys' toys, killed way more civilians than Hamas did, even proportionately. Nearly all the Palestinian dead were civilians. Nearly all the Israeli dead were militants. The same was true for the July war on Lebanon. It's obvious the IDF is targetting civilians.

      Oh, and this new hasbara tactic of concern trolling about the people of Gaza is ludicrous. You must think we're all thick as two short planks if you seriously believe anyone here thinks you give a toss about the people of Gaza.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 5, 2015 at 5:58 pm with 10 replies

      The IDF never even entered Beirut. That had been the original plan, but with the usual cowardice that characterises that 'army', they stopped outside the city, laid it to siege, and in the usual cowardly IDF fashion, bombarded it from the air. In his excellent book, David Hirst describes how Sharon, in a fit of pique, would call up airstrikes that could kill hundreds of people in one go.

      If they had entered Beirut and not just indulged in indiscriminate bombing, civilian targets would probably have been much lower, but IDF casualties much higher. However, the chances of dealing a decisive defeat to the PLO would also have increased. However, for Israel, protecting their 'soliders' always comes first, and that is one of the reasons the IDF is such a lousy army, propaganda to the contrary aside.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 5, 2015 at 5:54 pm

      Jackdaw,

      Are you going out of your way to display your ignorance?

      If by 'beach kids' you mean the 4 Bakr cousins, they were NOT 'struck from above'. They were shot by gunboats who had just fired at the beach, and then, half a minute later - easily enough time to know who they were aiming at - targetted the boys. Journalists Ayman Mohyeldin and Peter Beaumont, who had been playing football with them only moment earlier, witnessed the killings. They said that they were frantically gesturing at the ships and shouting ''They're only kids!'' but STILL they were murdered.

      There is really no doubt that these boys were deliberately targetted. All of this was very widely reported at the time, but I guess you somehow managed to miss it. Seems that there's a lot you manage to miss.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm

      Finkelstein is correct. In Israel, soldiers are much more precious than civilians. I think that's partly because just about every Israeli - or at least Israeli Jews, who are all that count - has been a solider at some point. This includes women, even though, despite the hasbara about the IDF being such a female-friendly army, only 3% of combat forces are women.

      Then, as Finkelstein says, there's the fact that Israel is a macho 'Spartan' society, where 'deterrence' is crucial to the national psyche. The death of soldiers wounds in a way that the death of civilians -insofar as anyone is a civilian in a country with universal conscription - ever can. Add to that the racism which is rampant in Israeli society and one can see just how sick the joke of the 'world's most moral army' really is.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm with 13 replies

      Morality aside, the IDF's unwillingness to take -- as opposed to inflict - casualties is their fundamental weakness as a fighting force. That is why, for all their technical superiority, they have not won a war for 4O years.

      A real army has to be prepared for the fact that some, maybe many, of their members will not come home after a war. In Israel, by contrast, ''soldiers'' consider ''war'' to be a good chance to post some sexy pics on their Instagram page. The IDF's best known invention, the Merkava tank, is basically an armoured cocoon. I suppose that's what comes of a whole generation growing up thinking that being a 'soldier' means harassing pregnant women at checkpoints. And that's why when, faced with a courageous, committed fighting force in Hizballah, the IDF ran away. Twice.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 4, 2015 at 1:04 pm

      I was going to say the same. Even these soldiers - brave as they are to come out like this - have been ziowashed. Take this for example:

      “What we understand is that the IDF has changed its way of fighting, basically abandoned the ethical code without having any conversation, without having any discussion. It’s a mad doctrine, and the IDF didn’t adopt it formally. Even some people in the general staff think it’s mad, but this is the way we fight.”

      The IDF never ever had an 'ethical code'. How does this young man think the siege of Beirut, which killed 2000 people, the vast majority civilians in 1982, probably well before he was born, fitted into the IDF's 'ethical code'?

  • 'BirthWrong' in the Cradle of Jewish Culture: Jews gather in southern Spain for tour that aims to repudiate Zionism
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 5:33 am

      And where did all the millions of Jews in the 'diaspora' come from?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 1, 2015 at 4:49 pm

      Also, if Zionism is the answer to the Jews' problems, how come it took them two millenia to come up with it? Those Jews expelled from Spain could have gone to Palestine, but chose to remain in Europe instead. Even today, with the existence of the ''Jewish state'' nearly all Jews who have the option of living in a prosperous Western nation will do just that, rather than taking up residence in a glorified Levantine ghetto.

  • Israeli army can't stop patting itself on the back for helping Nepal victims
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 8:12 am

      Your sick joke of an 'army' bombed hospitals and rehabilitations centres.

      And now we're supposed to praise them because they put up a few tents to make a Potemkin hospital?

      You must think the rest of the world is as hopelessly brainwashed as Israelis are.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 6:41 am with 6 replies

      A hasbara effort wouldn't be complete without a 'field hospital'.

      I remember literally every single hasbarist was droning on about how Israel had established a 'field hospital' on the 'borders' with Gaza during last summer's massacre. As though treating a few carefully vetted Palestinians - probably collaborators and their families - somehow neutralised the horror. Can 'jons' tell us about the current status of said 'field hospital' or did it endure only as long as hasbara required it to endure?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 1, 2015 at 4:37 pm

      Ask Nepalese hotel owners and tour bus operators what they think of Israeli tourists and their obnoxious, culturally insensitive behaviour.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 1, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      According to what I have read, yes.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 1, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      ''Like all good stories in Israel, it is a very fierce debate with very passionate views on both sides…''

      This seems to be the standard hasbara response to anyone who points out the less than liberal aspects of Israeli society. I heard the same thing recently when someone mentioned the fact that ''secular'' Israel does not recognise secular marriages. ''Oh, but you see these things are fiercely debated in the vibrant democracy that is Israel''. So what? Fact remains that any Israeli who wants a non-religious wedding has to go beyond Israel's 'borders' to obtain it.

  • 'Baltimore Is Here': Ethiopian Israelis protest police brutality in Jerusalem
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 9:33 am

      How can anyone be 'racist' towards Israelis? They are not a race. Indeed, according to Israel's own government, they're not even a nationality.

      And of course you are right in saying that many Israelis are indigeneous to the region. These are the 2O% of so who are Palestinian, as well as a small minority of Jewish Israelis whose presence in the region long predated the colonisation by Eastern European Jews.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 5:28 am with 8 replies

      The entire society is built on racism against the indigenous people of Palestine.

      It would be amazing if Israelis were not also racist against other 'foreigners'.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 2, 2015 at 5:27 am

      Same old same old. Yes, Israel has 'problems' but because it's such a 'vibrant democracy' where everyone is so politically aware and engaged in lively debate, they're 'trying to work it out'.

      Could Ms. Aynaw give us any concrete examples of how the situation is 'improving' for Ethiopian Jews? And no, choosing one Ethiopian to display herself in a 'beauty' contest does not count as an improvement.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius May 1, 2015 at 4:43 pm with 1 replies

      Events like this make it so very clear that Jews are not a race, nor an ethnicity, nor even a 'people' - to use the almost meaningless term preferred by Zionists these days. Jews are members of a religious group who have little or nothing in common with one another other than religion. An Ethiopian Jew has no more in common with a Polish Jew than an Ethiopian Christian has in common with a Polish Christian.

      If Jews really saw each other as belonging to the same ethnicity, racism like this simply could not happen, particularly not in the ''Jewish democracy''.

  • Avi Shlaim on liberal Zionism, the 'dead' two-state solution, and colonial pizza
    • ''Ben-Ami claims that Israel will eventually end its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories and help to create a Palestinian state.''

      I simply do not understand how anyone as well informed as Ben Ami can make such a statement.

      When, precisely, does Ben Ami think that ''Israel will eventually end its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories and help to create a Palestinian state?'' If that's what Israel intends to do, why not do it..... now? For the past several years, Israel has enjoyed the most peaceful period of time since the creation of the statelet. Surely, if they were going to end the occupation, this would be a perfect time to do it? Instead, we've got ever increasing 'settlements', overtly racist rhetoric from mainstream politicians, and Sderot Cinema.

      Could it be precisely because occupation has become so cost-free, that Israel has no intention of ending it? Not that it ever did, but it does amaze me how anyone can say, with a straight face, that Israel is going to end the occupation. Some day.

  • Using the dead: the 'NYT' works with Israel to justify military service
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 26, 2015 at 5:02 am

      I have heard that in many polls of ''Israelis'', Palestinians are often omitted, though this isn't mentioned when the results are published. Take the polls done during the summer massacre, where approval ratings for the killing spree were well to the north of 90%. Given that about 20% or more of Israelis are Palestinian, they surely could not have been included in the survey. Yet most refer to those surveyed as simply ''Israelis''. Could you imagine if pollsters in the US systematically excluded black people from their polls, and claimed that the results were representative of all Americans?

  • Understanding the Jewish National Home
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 19, 2015 at 11:46 am

      @sklein,

      For many centuries, there were very large communities of Jews in the Middle East, notably in Alexandria, almost within spitting distance of ''the Holy Land''. Yet very very few of these Jews chose to live in ''Israel'', even though they could easily have done so. If Jews have been 'yearning to return to the promised land' for so long, why did Jews who lived right next door not feel motivated to do so?

  • Just like the Nazis, Iran 'plans to exterminate six million Jews' -- Netanyahu
    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 18, 2015 at 1:56 pm

      You're right. You haven't travelled much. You also haven't read much, nor have you conversed much with anyone outside your Ziobubble. Nobody I know of in the pro-Palestine community believes in a 'two state solution'. Even if they felt that were a desirable outcome, they know that Israel's insatiable greed for land has rendered that impossible.

      And Israel does not have a 'right to exist'. Neither does the UK, or Iceland, or Burkina Faso, or any other state. Nation states exist until they no longer do. Israel wasn't around 70 years ago. It's entirely possible that it will not be around 70 years from now. It's almost comical how Israelists think that having existed for a paltry 3 generations - when circumstances have been almost entirely favourable to them - somehow guarantees Israel's future. Nation states have existed for much longer and still been confined to the dustbins of history. The same, sooner or later, will be true for Israel. It's a matter of when, not if.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 18, 2015 at 1:46 pm

      Ah, so I'm the one duped by propaganda about Iran, eh? Khamenei is an unsavoury leader in many ways, but even his critics agree that he is not corrupt and lives quite modestly, as do most of the Iranian political class. And as I've said before, you know Sweet FA about Iran. It is not a 'closed society' at all. I know you haven't been there, but I have, and people discuss politics in a way which would be unthinkable in the Gulf dictatorships Israel has such a crush on.

      Anyway, since you have an expertise on Iran unsullied by any propaganda, perhaps you can provide me with sources about those 'palaces' - plural - personally owned by Khamenei?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 18, 2015 at 11:07 am

      Dabakr,

      What a disingenuous post. The Shah's Iran was a US client, much like the Gulf states Israel is so chummy with. Why would they have a problem with a regime which reinforced the pro-US, pro-Israel status quo in the region? It's the idea of an independent Iran which bothers them.

      Oh, and spare us the concern trolling over the Iranian people. Like you give a toss. As you say, Israel was quite in love with the Shah's brutal regime, to the point of helping to train the notorious Savak secret police. Please dont' try to pretend you care about the people of Iran. Nobody believes you.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 18, 2015 at 11:01 am

      But David, Yugoslavia didn't 'decide to break up', like a couple divorcing. Aren't you forgetting the series of bloody wars, particularly regarding the seccession of Bosnia? The Belgrade government opposed this until almost the end.

      Then there's ''Kosovo'', carved out of 15% of Serbia, very much against the will of the Serbian government and people, who consider it an illegal theft of their sovereign territory. Yet there it is, recognised as a nation state by most Western countries, though not by the UN. Does ''Kosovo'' have a right to exist? Did Serbia have a right to exist within its legal borders prior to the creation of ''Kosovo''? Most of what's euphemistically termed the 'international community' would agree on the first question, but disagree on the latter - for their own geopolitical purposes. What about Sudan? Did Khartoum have any say in having much of their country shaved off to make an 'independent' nation?

      What I'm saying is that nation states exist or they don't. They don't have a ''right'' to do so.

    • ''. Under the current geopolitical system, where there is no world government, there is no system of law higher than that of the sovereign state which could say that Israel does not exist, or must cease to exist. It therefore has a legal right to continue to exist.''

      But yet nation states come and go all the time. In my lifetime -- and I'm guessing yours too - nations such as the USSR, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and East Germany - to name but a few - have ceased to exist. On the other hand, nations including Kosovo, Croatia, Slovenia, East Timor and the George Clooney Republic of South Sudan - again to name but a few - have come into existence.

      If Israel has a 'right to continue to exist', why did the same 'right' not apply to Yugoslavia or the USSR?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 18, 2015 at 5:32 am

      ''Khameini knows his palaces would be obliterated''

      You really take pride in your cluelessness, don't you? Khamenei doesn't have any 'palaces'. He lives very modestly, and last year went to a state-run, presumably sanctions hit, Iranian hospital for treatment for his prostate cancer.

      You must be confusing him with Israel's Gulf buddies, who would have flown for treatment to the US or Switzerland in private jets with gold plated taps.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius April 16, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      'Catalan' thinks it's all about him!

    • ''t there is something for Israel to fear. ''

      Of course there is. An Iran reintegrated into the world economy and power structure is a serious threat to expansionist Zionism.

    • ''s Israelis (not Jews, but for rhetorical convenience called Jews)''

      But only when they're 'victims'. You'd never hear a Zionist saying ''Jewish soldiers shot dead a Palestinian boy today''. In fact, if anyone else did, they'd be whining about 'antisemitism'. But they're happy to refer to Israelis as 'Jews' - even though between a fifth and a quarter of Israelis are not Jews - when it suits the eternal victim agenda.

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